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    The Science of Joy: Why You Need It and How to Get It | Ingrid Fetell Lee

    enAugust 09, 2023
    What are some practical strategies for integrating joy daily?
    How does joy differ from happiness according to the text?
    What role does conversation play in experiencing joy?
    Why is joy spotting considered a valuable practice?
    How can societal pressures affect our experience of joy?

    Podcast Summary

    • The Power of Joy: Enhancing Well-Being and ThrivingIncorporating small moments of joy into our daily lives can have a significant impact on our well-being, productivity, creativity, and relationships, even on our worst days.

      Joy is a crucial element for human thriving. Scientific research shows that small moments of joy throughout the day can have a significant impact on our well-being. Joy can reset our body's stress response, increase productivity, enhance cognitive flexibility and creativity, and improve relationships. Ingrid Fetell Lee, the guest in this podcast, provides practical strategies for integrating joy into our daily lives. Joy is not just a fleeting emotion, but something tangible that can be found in ordinary things and sensorial experiences. It is different from happiness, as happiness is a broader evaluation of our overall life satisfaction. By incorporating joy into our environments, noticing and embracing joy, and understanding its intersection with other emotions, we can access joy even on our worst days.

    • The Power of Joy: Impacting Wellbeing and HappinessFinding and embracing small moments of joy can reset our stress responses, boost productivity and creativity, improve relationships, enhance our health, and ultimately contribute to overall happiness and wellbeing.

      Finding moments of joy can have numerous positive impacts on our wellbeing. These moments of joy, characterized by intense positive emotions like smiling, laughter, and the urge to jump up and down, can be measured through physical expressions. While happiness may be influenced by various factors and may elude us when things are not going well in our lives, joy is always accessible to us. Building up enough joy can create a feedback loop that leads to happiness. Small moments of joy can reset our stress responses, make us more productive, open our minds to creativity, and deepen our relationships. Additionally, joy can improve our health by resetting our cardiovascular responses to stress and strengthening our immune system. Furthermore, being in a state of joy makes us more attractive and magnetic to others. Therefore, seeking out and embracing these small moments of joy can have wide-ranging and lasting benefits for our overall happiness and wellbeing.

    • The Role of Surroundings and Sensory Interactions in Finding JoyEmbracing sensory experiences and being fully present in the moment can enhance our ability to feel joy, challenging cultural conditioning and emphasizing the importance of appreciating joy in our limited time.

      Joy can be found in both intangible and tangible experiences. Ingrid Fetells argues that our surroundings and sensory interactions play a significant role in influencing our mood and bringing us joy. She believes that physical objects and experiences, such as the smell of a loved one's hair or the touch of a snuggle, can provide deep and tangible joy. This idea challenges cultural conditioning, which often emphasizes non-attachment and intangible sources of happiness. However, Fetells suggests that embracing sensory experiences and being fully present in the moment can enhance our ability to feel joy. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the importance of finding and appreciating joy in the limited time we have.

    • Embracing Impermanence and Finding Joy in the Present MomentJoy can be found by embracing impermanence, being present in the moment, and extracting joy from objects or experiences without being attached to them. Memories can enhance the experience of joy, which can be found in a variety of experiences, even those that may seem dark or somber.

      Joy can be found in embracing impermanence and being present in the moment. Both Dan Harris and Ingrid Fetells emphasize the importance of recognizing that nothing lasts forever and that attachment to objects or experiences can lead to constant mourning. Instead, they suggest finding joy in the present moment and extracting joy from objects or experiences without being attached to them. While Dan Harris focuses on extracting joy without relying on memory, Ingrid Fetells believes that memories can enhance the experience of joy. They both agree that joy does not have to be superficial or constant, but rather a natural ebb and flow of emotions that can be found in a variety of experiences, even in those that may seem dark or somber.

    • The intersection of joy and emotions, and its impact on creativity and design.Joy can be stimulated by conflicting emotions, and understanding its roots can help in designing environments and objects that provoke this positive emotion.

      Joy can intersect with various emotions, including sadness, awe, and a sense of the sublime. These conflicting emotions can actually stimulate creativity by encouraging the brain to seek novel solutions. Aesthetics, as defined by Ingrid Fetells, encompasses sensations and specific sensory qualities that evoke the feeling of joy. There are different levels of joy, including personal, cultural, and universal aesthetics. Certain things, such as bubbles, cherry blossoms, and rainbows, consistently bring joy to people across different backgrounds. Understanding these roots of joy can be used in design to create environments and objects that elicit this positive emotion.

    • The Power of Aesthetic Elements in Evoking JoyIncorporating aesthetic elements such as round shapes and bright colors can enhance joy and well-being, as they trigger positive emotions and sensations in our brains.

      Certain aesthetic elements, such as round shapes, bright colors, elevation or lightness, abundance, variety, and symmetrical shapes, evoke a sense of joy that is universally experienced across cultures. These elements trigger positive emotions and sensations, leading to relaxation, playfulness, and a feeling of ease. Evolutionarily, humans have developed a preference for these aesthetics because they were beneficial to our survival and thriving. For example, round shapes signal safety and set us at ease, while bright colors were associated with energy and abundance in our ancestral environments. Although some of these preferences may no longer be directly relevant to our modern lives, they still elicit positive responses in our brains. By understanding and incorporating these aesthetics into our surroundings, we can enhance our own joy and well-being.

    • Bringing Joy Back: Enhancing the Built Environment through Mindful DesignBy incorporating sensory qualities and aesthetics of joy, we can create spaces that not only bring us joy but also positively influence our mood and overall well-being. It is important to address the disparity in access to joyful environments for vulnerable populations.

      The built environment often lacks the aesthetics of joy, which can have a significant impact on our overall well-being. Modernist designers and architects have often focused on stripping away ornamentation and decoration, resulting in spaces that lack the joyful qualities found in nature. However, it is possible to reintroduce joy into our environments by being mindful of the sensory qualities and incorporating elements such as color, texture, and variety. These small additions not only bring joy but also influence our mood in unconscious ways. It is important to recognize that there are different aesthetics of joy, and by tapping into any of these aesthetics, we can create spaces that bring us joy. Additionally, it is crucial to address the disparity in access to joyful environments, as vulnerable populations often have the most drab environments.

    • The Importance of Joy and How to Cultivate it in Everyday LifeJoy is not something we need to earn or wait for; it is vital for our well-being. By practicing "Joy spotting," we can find and appreciate joyful elements in our surroundings, boosting our overall happiness.

      Joy is not a luxury or something we have to earn, but rather an essential aspect of thriving as humans. Ingrid Fetells highlights that our society often views joy as conditional, believing that it should only be experienced once certain criteria are met. However, joy should be seen as valuable in its own right, not just for the potential benefits it brings. By practicing "Joy spotting," which involves consciously looking for joyful elements in our environment, we can increase our joy quotient and overall happiness. This habit of shifting our perspective and paying attention to the sensory qualities that bring us joy can help us rediscover and maintain joy in our lives, even during challenging times.

    • Cultivating Joy and Awakening to Life's RichnessBy actively seeking out moments of joy and being fully present in our surroundings, we can unlock new perspectives, deepen our sense of mindfulness, and enhance our overall well-being.

      Developing a practice of joy spotting can have profound effects on various aspects of our lives. Ingrid Fetells shares her experience of how focusing on joy helped her understand overlooked habits and unlock new perspectives. Dan Harris emphasizes the importance of waking up in all aspects of life, as it can lead to a broader awakening in other areas as well. One tactic for joy spotting is to notice the invisible forces that surround us, such as wind, temperature, and magnetism, which can bring a sense of wonder and joy. Additionally, using all our senses, beyond just vision, can deepen our connection with our surroundings and enhance our overall mindfulness. These seemingly simple practices have the potential to generate self-awareness and awaken us to the richness of life.

    • The Interplay of Inner and Outer Experiences in Finding Joy and SpiritualityFinding joy and spirituality involves recognizing the connection between our inner and outer worlds, and actively engaging with nature, art, and personal expression to cultivate a joyful state of being.

      Finding joy and spirituality is not limited to inner or outer experiences alone. There is a constant dialogue between the two, where paying attention to the beauty of nature can deeply move and inspire individuals to make meaningful impacts in the world. Ingrid Fetells highlights the importance of jumping for joy as a way to drop the mask and return to a purely joyful state. Bringing nature indoors through plants and birdsong can enhance generosity, focus, and restoration. Moving art around and allowing children to decorate can bring fresh perspectives and awaken awareness. Ultimately, finding joy and spirituality is a dynamic process that involves embracing both internal and external experiences.

    • Adding Color and Joy to Transform Our LivesIncorporating bright colors and simple actions like wearing vibrant clothing or engaging in joyful conversation can significantly impact our mood, well-being, and connections with others.

      Incorporating bright colors and finding simple ways to add joy to our lives can have a significant impact on our mood and interactions with others. Ingrid Fetells shared her experience of choosing vibrant wallpaper for her kitchen, which initially seemed overwhelming but ultimately brought her family joy. She also highlighted the power of wearing bright clothes on tough days, as it can energize us and attract positive attention from others. Additionally, sitting in the sunshine and engaging in joyful conversation starters can enhance our well-being and foster connections with people. These small actions may seem insignificant, but they have the potential to spark joy and create positive ripple effects in our lives.

    • Cultivating Joy Through Conversation and ReflectionIncorporating joyful conversations and reflecting on childhood influences, loved ones, and simple pleasures can help us rediscover joy and understand how to regain it, while also addressing societal pressures that hold us back from experiencing joy.

      Incorporating joyful topics of conversation can deepen bonds and connect us to our support networks. Ingrid Fetells recognized the importance of providing a break from discussing the news and created a list of joyful conversation starters to help people connect and find joy in their lives. These questions can also serve as helpful journal prompts for self-reflection. By reflecting on childhood influences and appreciating loved ones, we can rediscover joy and understand how to regain it. Furthermore, noticing and embracing simple pleasures in our environment, such as gardening, can bring ongoing joy. While joy spotting is a valuable practice, it should be complemented by other activities like journaling, therapy, and physical movement for a more holistic and fulfilling contemplative life. Additionally, understanding what holds us back from joy, such as societal pressures and the focus on delayed gratification, can lead to powerful insights and personal growth.

    • Unraveling the Barriers to JoyIdentifying and addressing the external and internal factors that hinder joy can help us experience it more often, challenging societal judgments and embracing both seriousness and joyfulness.

      Joy is often deferred or disconnected due to societal judgments, inner voices, and fear. Ingrid Fetells discusses how we learn to push joy aside, waiting for the perfect moment or fearing negative reactions. She emphasizes the need to unravel these patterns and identify the "killjoys" in our lives that hinder joy. These "killjoys" can be both external factors, such as critical people, and internal factors, such as perfectionism and fear of vulnerability. Furthermore, Fetells highlights the misconception that joy is trivial or childish, leading to judgments when expressing outward joy. She encourages embracing both seriousness and joyfulness, challenging the notion that they are mutually exclusive. Ultimately, recognizing and addressing the barriers to joy can help us experience it more often.

    • Joy and compassion can coexist.Joy can be actively created and experienced, and it is important to remain open to joy even during difficult times, while still acknowledging genuine sources of sorrow.

      Joy and compassion are not mutually exclusive. Ingrid Fetells emphasizes that we can surprise others by showing that joy and compassion can coexist and are not on the same spectrum. The example of the Dalai Lama, who exhibits both laughter and compassion, illustrates this point. Fetells explains that her investigation into joy has transformed her perspective on happiness. She now focuses on experiencing joy and helping others experience it, rather than simply seeking happiness. She believes that joy is something we can actively create, giving us agency in our emotional well-being. Moreover, she highlights the importance of remaining open to the possibility of joy, even in difficult times, without disregarding genuine sources of sorrow.

    • Finding Joy Amidst Sadness and LossEmbracing moments of joy, even in difficult times, helps us appreciate life's fleeting pleasures and strengthens our ability to find happiness amidst sadness and loss.

      Joy can coexist with sadness and loss. In the midst of a funeral, Ingrid and her cousin were able to find a moment of joy by appreciating something that brought laughter. This shows that even during difficult times, it is possible to experience moments of joy and connection. Often, we hold back from fully embracing joy because we fear the pain of losing it. However, understanding that joy can be felt even in the midst of loss can help us let go of that fear and allow ourselves to fully experience and appreciate moments of joy, no matter how fleeting they may be. So, instead of bracing for the possibility of losing joy, we should embrace it fully when it arises.

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    • And his thoughts on the creative capacity of AI 



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    https://thewilbur.com/armory/artist/dan-harris/


    Full Shownotes: https://www.tenpercent.com/tph/podcast-episode/rick-rubin

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    Gretchen Rubin on: How To Use Your Five Senses To Reduce Anxiety, Increase Creativity, and Improve Your Relationships

    Gretchen Rubin on: How To Use Your Five Senses To Reduce Anxiety, Increase Creativity, and Improve Your Relationships

    Today’s guest is a happiness expert and devout non-meditator. In her latest book Life in Five Senses: How Exploring the Senses Got Me Out of My Head and Into the World, she describes how a routine visit to her eye doctor made her realize she’d been overlooking a key element of happiness: her five senses. 


    Gretchen Rubin is the author of many books, including the New York Times bestsellers Outer Order, Inner Calm; The Four Tendencies; Better Than Before; and The Happiness Project. Her books have sold more than 3.5 million copies worldwide, and have been translated in more than thirty languages. She also hosts the top-ranking, award-winning podcast Happier with Gretchen Rubin


    In this episode we talk about:


    • What led Gretchen to explore the five senses
    • How we often take our senses for granted
    • How our senses work with the brain to impact our perception 
    • The relationship between the senses and nostalgia 
    • The surprising power of ketchup and vanilla when it comes to the sense of taste
    • The sense of hearing and what she calls her “Audio Apothecary” 
    • How to be a better listener
    • The interplay between the senses of taste and smell
    • The sense of touch and the use of comfort objects   
    • Why she decided to visit The Metropolitan Museum of Art everyday to explore the five senses
    • And how she uses the five senses to boost creativity  



    Full Shownotes: https://www.tenpercent.com/podcast-episode/gretchen-rubin-588

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    Neuroaesthetics: How Art Can Improve and Extend Your Life | Ivy Ross and Susan Magsamen

    Neuroaesthetics: How Art Can Improve and Extend Your Life | Ivy Ross and Susan Magsamen

    Did you know that just 20 minutes of art a day is as beneficial as exercise and mindfulness? Or that participating in one art experience per month can extend your life by ten years? 


    Our guests Ivy Ross and Susan Magsamen talk about their new book, Your Brain on Art: How the Arts Transform Us. Together they explore the new science of neuroaesthetics, which explains how the arts can measurably change the body, brain, and our behaviors. 


    This is the first installment in a three part series we’re running called, Mundane Glory about learning not to overlook the little things in your daily life that can be powerful and evidence-based levers for increased happiness. 



    In this episode we talk about:


    • Their definition of the arts and aesthetic experiences
    • How they see nature as, “the highest form of art”
    • How simple actions like humming in the shower & gardening can be categorized as art experiences
    • How you don’t have to be good at making art to benefit from it
    • The difference between “makers” and “beholders” of art
    • What they mean by art being a part of our evolutionary DNA
    • How engaging in the arts can help strengthen our relationships and connectivity
    • How arts and aesthetic experiences create neuroplasticity in the brain
    • How society’s emphasis on optimizing for productivity has pushed the arts aside
    • The four key attributes that make up a concept called an “aesthetic mindset”
    • The benefits of partaking in a wide array of art experiences
    • The importance of infusing play and non judgment into the art you make
    • How art can be a form of meditation and mindfulness
    • How artistic experiences can extend your life, help treat disease and relieve stress
    • How the arts affect the way we learn
    • The emerging field of neuroarts and neuroaesthetics
    • How food fits into the arts category
    • Simple ways to integrate the arts into our daily lives
    • Technology’s relationship to the arts
    • And the importance of architecture and your physical space as a form of art



    For tickets to TPH's live event in Boston on September 7:

    https://thewilbur.com/armory/artist/dan-harris/


    themightyfix.com/happier


    Full Shownotes: https://www.tenpercent.com/tph/podcast-episode/ivy-ross-susan-magsamen

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    Pulitzer Prize-Winning Novelist Jennifer Egan On: Panic, Awe, Fetishizing Authenticity, and Our Possible AI Futures

    Pulitzer Prize-Winning Novelist Jennifer Egan On: Panic, Awe, Fetishizing Authenticity, and Our Possible AI Futures

    Jennifer Egan is not only a novelist, she's also written short stories and award-winning magazine journalism. She's one of those writers who can both spin a fascinating yarn and load it up with insights into everything from human nature to the future of technology, all while pulling off bewitching turns of phrase; what the writer Jonathan Franzen has called “micro felicities.” 


    Egan is as funny, fascinating, and open IRL as she is on the page although it’s not clear she feels that way given she talks about how much smarter she feels in writing than in speaking!


    In this episode we talk about:


    • Egan’s writing process 
    • The power of writing by hand 
    • The shocking, relentless, ruthless discipline that she imposes on herself to never do the same thing twice as she’s writing
    • Curiosity, awe, and panic attacks
    • How she handles feedback
    • Her feelings of insubstantiality 
    • Our cultures fetishization of authenticity
    • The impact of success on her work
    • AI and our possible technological futures


    Full Shownotes: https://www.tenpercent.com/tph/podcast-episode/jennifer-egan

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    Your Sleep Questions, Answered | Donn Posner

    Your Sleep Questions, Answered | Donn Posner

    In today’s episode, Dr. Donn Posner proposes a whole new way of thinking about sleep.  First, he normalizes the sleep problems many of us experience. If you’re sleeping poorly right now, he says, don’t freak out; it’s natural and normal. Second, he has a bunch of tips for how to deal with insomnia, some of which you may have never heard before. 

    Dr. Donn Posner is one of the leaders in the field of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for insomnia. Dr. Posner is the Founder and President of Sleepwell Consultants, and Adjunct Clinical Associate Professor in the Department of Psychiatry & Behavioral Sciences at Stanford University School of Medicine. 

    In this episode we talk about:


    • The difference between chronic and acute insomnia
    • How we can adapt to things that can mess up our sleep, like remote work
    • Sub-chronic sleep conditions 
    • What to do if we're experiencing acute insomnia so that it doesn't become chronic insomnia 
    • The importance of structure when it comes to good sleep
    • What social jet lag is 
    • Dr. Posner’s take on napping
    • Why wake time is so important when it comes to good sleep 
    • Why we shouldn’t try to compensate for a bad night's sleep


    Full Shownotes: https://www.tenpercent.com/tph/podcast-episode/donn-posner-268-rerun

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