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    Dr. Ramani: 2 Signs You are Being Love Bombed & 8 Ways to Know If You are Dealing with a Narcissist

    Using herbs for mood and stress support and checking in with ourselves can help us reconnect with our bodies and improve overall well-being, leading to deeper introspection and the exploration of meaning and purpose in life.

    enMarch 04, 2024

    About this Episode

    Why do we fall victim to love bombing?

    Why do we attract narcissists?

    Dr. Ramani is back with eye-opening and science-based insights on narcissism. Dr. Ramani is a licensed clinical psychologist, Professor Emerita of Psychology at California State University Los Angeles, and the Founder and CEO of LUNA Education, Training & Consulting. 

    Dr. Ramani discusses the difference between narcissism versus narcissistic personality disorder. She dives into the signs of love bombing and how to stop attracting narcissists. Dr. Ramani also talks about the practical strategies for safeguarding yourself from attracting narcissistic personalities into your life and how to spot the red flags and establish healthy boundaries. 
    Join us in understanding the complexities of narcissism, how to foster resilience, establish boundaries, and reclaim yourself.

    With Love and Gratitude,
    Jay Shetty

    What We Discuss:

    00:00 Intro
    01:09 Narcissism Versus Narcissistic Personality Disorder
    05:41 Why Narcissistic People Make History
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    11:27 A Narcissistic Person is Like a Volcano
    14:38 Love Bombing is Winning You Over with Attunement
    15:24 From Love Bombing to What Went Wrong 
    18:11 Empaths Get Stuck in Trauma-Bonded Relationships
    21:45 The Impact of Narcissistic Abuse
    25:29 Can You Disengage from a Narcissistic Partner?
    26:36 Repeat Perpetrators Harm the Forgiver
    28:21 You Can Empathize and Not Forgive
    30:42 What is Radical Acceptance?
    32:39 Flexibility in Our Psyche
    35:20 Grief is the Most Human Experience
    38:06 How to Recreate Your Own Subjective Focus
    44:13 How to Pull Yourself from any Form of Gaslighting
    48:58 Can a Narcissist Ever Heal?
    53:38 Is Change Possible?

    Episode Resources:
    - Dr. Ramani | Website
    - Dr. Ramani | Instagram
    - Dr. Ramani | YouTube
    - Dr. Ramani | TikTok
    It's Not You: Identifying and Healing from Narcissistic People

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    🔑 Key Takeaways

    • CVS Health provides health services from seniors' wellness to mental health, and Nature's Way offers natural herbs for digestive health
    • Narcissism is a personality style, while NPD is a diagnosable condition. Most people with narcissistic tendencies don't have NPD, and it's essential to understand the differences for effective relationship management and support.
    • Narcissistic behavior can harm relationships, regardless of diagnosis. Let's discuss the impact and find solutions.
    • Identify patterns of entitlement, lack of empathy, grandiosity, and arrogance. Learn to protect yourself before getting too deeply involved.
    • Narcissistic relationships involve intense attention, validation, manipulation, deceit, and emotional abuse. The cycle includes love bombing, followed by difficult experiences, gaslighting, blame shifting, and invalidation. The relationship becomes one-sided, with the narcissistic person's needs taking priority.
    • Narcissistic individuals can be unpredictable, fail to fulfill responsibilities, try to 'Hoover' you back, focus on personal growth, and enhance well-being through Quince and adaptogenic herbs.
    • Growing up with unattuned parents can lead to a pattern of prioritizing others' needs over your own, making you vulnerable to trauma-bonded relationships with narcissistic partners. These relationships can cause negative psychological effects and abandonment of true nature.
    • Healing from a relationship with a narcissist involves maintaining empathy while disengaging from harm, balancing understanding and self-care.
    • Empathy acknowledges the complexity of a situation and potential reasons behind someone's actions, forgiveness is a personal decision not necessary for healing, and radical acceptance allows us to move forward without judgment or resistance.
    • Radical acceptance means acknowledging a narcissist's behavior won't change, promoting self-awareness, emotional resilience, and informed decision-making
    • Grief is a natural process that goes beyond the loss of a relationship or person, it's about the life you once had and the loss of identity within it. Shopify offers an all-in-one solution for managing retail stores, and during Easter, CVS provides savings on Easter basket items.
    • Using herbs for mood and stress support and checking in with ourselves can help us reconnect with our bodies and improve overall well-being, leading to deeper introspection and the exploration of meaning and purpose in life.
    • Embrace supportive relationships, acknowledge wrongs, trust self-growth, challenge internalized voices, and let go of toxic relationships.
    • Radical acceptance helps individuals build efficacy and confidence by trying new things and experiencing success, allowing for self-identity, self-worth, and self-confidence growth in healing from narcissistic relationships.
    • Working with narcissistic individuals is a delicate process, requiring humility and balance. Change is difficult, but focusing on personal growth and creating a meaningful space outside the relationship can lead to healthier connections.
    • Heal, grow, and share your value despite past invalidating relationships. Motivation fluctuates, and it's okay to have off days. Utilize resources like CVS Health, Booking.com, and BetterHelp for overall well-being and mental health support.

    📝 Podcast Summary

    CVS Health offers comprehensive health services and natural herbs for wellness

    CVS Health is committed to providing comprehensive health and wellness services through various partnerships and offerings. From wellness destinations for seniors, virtual care, in-home evaluations, and mental health services, CVS Health is making healthier living more accessible. Meanwhile, natural herbs like slippery elm bark and ginger root, available through Nature's Way, can support digestive health. When it comes to travel planning, Booking.com offers a wide range of options to suit every preference and makes the process seamless. For those seeking a refreshing, rejuvenating beverage, Juni sparkling tea with adaptogens can provide calmness, vitality, and antioxidants with zero sugar. Lastly, being nice to others may make you attractive to narcissistic individuals, but it's essential to know how to set boundaries and maintain your authentic self.

    Distinguishing Narcissism from Narcissistic Personality Disorder

    Narcissism and narcissistic personality disorder are related but distinct concepts. Narcissism is a personality style, while narcissistic personality disorder is a diagnosable mental health condition. Most people exhibiting narcissistic patterns won't receive a diagnosis, and the term can be stigmatizing. Dr. Ramani's new book, "It's Not You," focuses on helping people deal with the in-between levels of narcissism, where individuals may be frustrated, annoyed, and hurt but not devastated. Understanding these nuances is crucial for navigating relationships and providing effective support to those affected.

    Focus on behavior, not diagnosis

    The public conversation about narcissism should focus on the behavior itself rather than getting into the specific clinical diagnosis. Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) may not always equate to severe narcissism, and labeling someone as such can create a harmful and shaming environment. Narcissism has always existed throughout history, and while it may have gone unnamed for a long time, it has contributed to significant innovations. As psychology is a relatively young field, the conversation around personality styles has evolved, and it's essential to recognize and address the harmful effects of narcissistic behavior in relationships. By focusing on the behavior rather than the diagnosis, we can have a clearer and more productive conversation about the impact of narcissism on individuals and society.

    Recognizing the signs of a narcissistic relationship

    Narcissistic relationships follow a consistent pattern, and it's essential to recognize the signs to avoid getting trapped. Narcissistic individuals have traits like entitlement, lack of empathy, grandiosity, and arrogance, which they use to mask their insecurities and shame. They seek "supply," which can be physical attractiveness, status, or praise, and once attracted, they may try to control the relationship by manipulating their partner's emotions. The relationship can feel volatile, with the narcissist's moods swinging between love bombing and devaluation. The key is to identify the pattern and learn how to protect yourself before getting too deeply involved. Remember, it's not your fault if you've attracted a narcissist; they're attracted to your power or attractiveness, which can be physical, social, or emotional. The important thing is to recognize the signs and know how to disengage before the relationship becomes destructive.

    Love bombing followed by manipulation and emotional abuse

    Narcissistic relationships involve a cycle of intense attention and validation followed by manipulation, deceit, and emotional abuse. During the initial phase, the narcissistic person may engage in "love bombing," showering the other person with attention and affection. However, over time, this phase gives way to a pattern of good and bad experiences, with the difficult experiences becoming more frequent. The narcissistic person may use tactics such as gaslighting, blame shifting, and invalidation to maintain control and keep the other person off-balance. Ultimately, the relationship becomes one-sided, with the narcissistic person's needs and desires taking priority over the other person's. The other person may end up sacrificing themselves to keep the relationship going, but the narcissistic person may continue to view them as an inconvenience or an object to be used for supply and validation.

    Understanding Narcissistic Relationships

    Narcissistic individuals can be unpredictable in their relationships. Once they feel they have you "hooked," they may show interest but then grow bored and discard you. They fail to fulfill the responsibilities of a healthy relationship, such as empathy, compassion, and self-awareness. If you decide to leave or they do, they may try to "Hoover" you back. Meanwhile, focusing on personal growth and self-care can bring joy and relief. For instance, discovering Quince for affordable yet stylish essentials or incorporating adaptogenic herbs like ashwagandha from Nature's Way for stress relief can enhance your well-being. Remember, human beings are social creatures and need love and connection. Don't let toxic relationships hinder your primal need for attachment.

    Children of unattuned parents often prioritize their parents' needs over their own, leading to trauma-bonded relationships with narcissistic partners.

    Children who grow up with unattuned or abusive parents often develop a deep need to meet their parents' needs at the expense of their own. This pattern continues into adulthood, where empathetic individuals are more likely to find themselves in trauma-bonded relationships with narcissistic partners. These relationships can lead to a host of negative psychological effects, including rumination, regret, anxiety, sadness, self-blame, self-doubt, and hyper-vigilance. The justifications and excuses made to maintain the relationship only reinforce the cycle, and the longer the relationship lasts, the more a person may abandon their true nature. The impact of narcissistic abuse can be profound and long-lasting, and it's important to understand that survivors may continue to worry about their abusers even after leaving the relationship.

    Navigating Complex Emotions After a Relationship with a Narcissist

    The experience of being in a relationship with a narcissistic person can lead to complex emotional responses in the survivor, including dissociation from their own needs and wants, depression-like symptoms, hyper-empathy, and shame. This is not an amputation of the empathic self, but rather a call to heal and become more discerning. It's important to maintain empathy for the narcissistic person while also disengaging from the harmful relationship. This balance can be challenging for loved ones to understand and for the survivor to navigate, but it's crucial for healing and reclaiming one's true self.

    Understanding the complexities of healing from past harm

    Forgiveness may not be necessary for healing from past hurt or trauma. While empathy towards the perpetrator is possible, forgiveness and empathy are not the same. Empathy acknowledges the complexity of a situation and the potential reasons behind someone's actions, even if those actions were harmful. Forgiveness, on the other hand, reflects the harm inflicted upon us and is a personal decision that may not be necessary for healing. Radical acceptance, another essential ingredient to healing, involves acknowledging and accepting the reality of a situation without judgment or resistance. It allows us to move forward and find peace, even if we don't forgive. The distinctions between empathy, forgiveness, and radical acceptance are crucial in understanding the complexities of healing from past harm.

    Accepting reality in unhealthy relationships

    Radical acceptance is not a magic pill for ending the hurt in unhealthy relationships with narcissistic individuals. It means acknowledging that the person's behavior will not significantly change and making decisions based on that reality. Flexibility in our psyche, which includes self-awareness, awareness of others, problem-solving abilities, and emotional resilience, is crucial for mental health. Narcissistic individuals, with their rigid and maladaptive personality styles, lack these qualities. Radical acceptance is not about agreeing with or giving in to harmful behavior, but rather understanding and accepting the situation as it is. This acceptance opens the door to making informed decisions about one's future.

    Understanding the universal experience of grief

    Grief is a universal human experience that goes beyond the loss of a relationship or person. It's the grief of the life you once had, the grief you could have had, and the loss of your identity within that relationship. The speaker emphasizes that everyone experiences grief, and it's important to understand that it's a natural process. During this time, people may feel clueless about their identity and wonder where to start. Shopify, with its all-in-one solution for managing retail stores, can provide a serious upgrade for point of sale systems. Meanwhile, during the Easter season, CVS offers savings on various items for building Easter baskets. The speaker also shares her personal experience with herbs, particularly ashwagandha, as a game-changer for her wellness routine.

    Reconnecting with ourselves through basic needs and herbs

    Paying attention to our basic needs and desires can help us reconnect with ourselves and improve our overall well-being. The use of herbs like ashwagandha, St John's wort, and holy basil, which provide mood and stress support, can be a simple yet effective way to start this process. Taking time to check in with ourselves throughout the day, asking simple questions about our physical sensations and preferences, can help us reorient to our bodies and regain a sense of subjective focus. This, in turn, can lead to deeper introspection and the exploration of meaning and purpose in our lives. As the speaker emphasizes, it's important to start with the basics and work our way up. By getting these "amateur decisions" right, we can build a strong foundation for personal growth and healing.

    Surrounding yourself with supportive people during healing

    During the healing process from toxic relationships, it's crucial to surround oneself with supportive people who validate and affirm self-worth. These individuals, referred to as "anti-gaslights," help individuals in their journey by acknowledging when they've been wronged and encouraging them to make bold decisions. Embracing the oscillation between self-doubt and progress, and learning to trust the voice of self-growth, are essential steps towards healing. Additionally, recognizing and challenging the internalized voices that perpetuate self-doubt and gaslighting is an ongoing process. Remember, it's okay to let go of the old voices that no longer serve you and instead focus on nurturing the relationships that uplift and empower you.

    Managing the inner critic in healing from narcissistic relationships

    Healing from a narcissistic relationship involves learning to manage and understand the inner critic or "persecuting voice," which can be seen as a protective mechanism keeping us safe from potential failure and humiliation. This process, called radical acceptance, allows individuals to build efficacy and confidence through trying new things and experiencing success. It's a rebuilding or "build from scratch" process for those whose individuated identity never fully formed in childhood. While the narcissistic person's capacity for healing is debated, some individuals with narcissistic tendencies may be able to heal through intensive therapy and self-reflection. The goal is to foster self-identity, self-worth, and self-confidence, which can lead to growth and individuation.

    Navigating Therapy with Narcissists

    Working with individuals diagnosed as narcissistic requires a delicate approach, as they struggle to accept their own imperfections and the impact of their actions on others. Humility is a crucial antidote to narcissism, but it's a challenging concept for those who believe they are extraordinary to embrace. The therapeutic process is long and vulnerable, and many individuals drop out before making significant progress. It's essential to strike a balance between pushing for growth and being too gentle to avoid regression. Narcissistic individuals may seem to change for brief periods, but without consistent commitment to therapy and personal growth, they often revert to their old ways. Waiting for a narcissistic partner to change is a futile endeavor, and in the process, one risks losing oneself. Instead, focusing on creating a meaningful space outside of the problematic relationship can help individuals preserve their sense of self and ultimately lead to healthier relationships.

    Embrace your experiences and talents

    Everyone's experiences and gifts, even those who have endured invalidating relationships, are valuable and needed in the world. Dr. Ramani's book, "It's Not You," encourages survivors to share their experiences and talents, emphasizing the importance of healing and growth. Motivation, like any other emotion, is not constant, and it's essential to remember that it's okay to have off days. CVS Health offers various services to support overall well-being, including healthcare, mental health, and in-home evaluations. Booking.com is a reliable partner for travel planning, offering a wide range of accommodations to fit any preference. Lastly, BetterHelp provides accessible and affordable online therapy, making mental health support available to everyone.

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    26:28 Trusting Your Life and Becoming Capable
    36:33 Being Present While on the Edge
    44:48 Any Moment Could Be Your Last
    45:43 The Deepest Mirror You’ll Ever Have
    48:58 What Did You Learn from Your Past Relationships?
    51:22 Introducing Buddhism Practice to My Kids
    55:33 Whatever You’re Saying, You Become
    01:02:22 Loving the Parenting Journey
    01:07:16 The Impacts of Your Decisions
    01:09:13 Opportunities Through Obstacles
    01:17:40 Buddhism Is My Anchor
    01:18:59 The Fear You’re Currently Overcoming
    01:26:04 Orlando Bloom on Final Five

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    4 Ways to Know if It Is Time To End Your Relationship (When the Signs Are Not Clear and Things are Not Bad)

    4 Ways to Know if It Is Time To End Your Relationship (When the Signs Are Not Clear and Things are Not Bad)

    Do you find yourself often thinking about breaking up?

    Do you and your partner have unresolved conflicts that keep resurfacing?

    In this episode, Jay tackles the tough emotions and uncertainty many face when considering a breakup. He talks about why people stay in or leave relationships, touching on key factors like emotional closeness, personal investment, and the impact of family responsibilities. Jay also discusses how to ensure emotional security and the risks of staying for financial reasons or out of obligation. 

    In this episode you’ll learn:

    How to recognize emotional investment

    How to assess emotional security

    How to consider financial implications

    How to navigate emotional intimacy

    This honest conversation provides you with the insights to evaluate your relationship more clearly, helping you decide whether to work on it or move on, based on a deeper understanding of your feelings and the relationship's dynamics.

    With Love and Gratitude,

    Jay Shetty

    What We Discuss:

    00:00 Intro

    01:10 When to End Your Relationship

    04:48 10 Reason Why People Stay in a Relationship

    12:44 Top 10 Reasons to Leave Your Relationship

    18:14 The Three Cancers of the Mind

    24:44 Difference in Scorecard Perspective

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    Benny Blanco: 3 Ways to Stop Caring About Failure & Get Out of Your Own Way

    Benny Blanco: 3 Ways to Stop Caring About Failure & Get Out of Your Own Way

    How can you overcome the fear of failure?

    What can you do daily to care less about failing?

    Today, Jay sits down with Benny Blanco for an inspiring conversation about pursuing passions, mentorship, failure, and continuous motivation. Benny has made a huge mark on the music industry contributing to hundreds of millions of album sales worldwide. Benny has worked with A-List artists like Ed Sheeran, Justin Bieber, and Katy Perry. As a solo artist, his albums "Friends Keep Secrets" and its sequel have amassed over 11 billion streams, featuring multiple platinum hits. Beyond music, Benny has ventured into television and even released a cookbook, "Open Wide," showcasing his diverse talents and interests

    Benny shares insight on how to not let failure stop you and getting over imposter syndrome. We also go dive into Benny’s life outside of music, exploring his passion for cooking through his cookbook "Open Wide." Plus, Benny talks about his relationships, how he keeps his creativity flowing, and the small joys that make his life special.

    In this interview, you’ll learn:

    How to pursue your passion with limited resources

    How to not let failure get in your way of achieving your goals

    How to embrace the unexpected in creative work

    How to transition your passion into different fields

    How to find joy and creativity in everyday moments

    Don't miss this intimate look at Benny Blanco's life and maybe learn a thing or two about making your own multi-track masterpiece or the perfect dish to serve at dinner!

    With Love and Gratitude,

    Jay Shetty

    What We Discuss:

    00:00 Intro

    03:43 What’s the First Creative Thing You Put Together?

    06:15 I Never Cared About Failure

    10:33 Developing Amnesia to Failure

    14:22 How Did You Meet Your Mentor?

    18:10 “The Boy I Mentored” 

    23:42 How Do You Show Up After a Rejection?

    26:51 Love Can Be Felt Through Music

    29:56 What Do You Do When You Wake Up?   

    32:02 Why Do You Struggle with Meditation?

    33:28 Why I Went to Therapy

    38:25 The Pressure of Perfectionism

    44:49 Do You Love to Cook?

    47:20 Do You Eat Healthy?

    48:47 Finding Comfort in Food

    54:42 What’s Your Sleep Pattern?

    56:40 Friendships Built Over the Years

    59:19 Multigenerational Friendships

    01:03:44 Better Relationship After Divorce

    01:05:52 Benny on Final Five   

    01:15:57 What’s Your Vice?

    01:17:53 Do You Take Supplements?

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    Why Your Self Worth is Keeping You Stuck & How to Stop Sabotaging Your Personal Growth With Jamie Kern Lima

    Why Your Self Worth is Keeping You Stuck & How to Stop Sabotaging Your Personal Growth With Jamie Kern Lima

    How does low self-worth stop you from moving forward?

    How can you stop self-sabotage and grow personally?

    Today, let’s welcome Jamie Kern Lima. Jamie is a New York Times bestselling author, founder of IT Cosmetics, a company she started in her living room and sold to L'Oreal in a billion-dollar deal, becoming the first female CEO of a brand in its 100+ year history. She's also an active philanthropist who has funded leadership training in more than 100 prisons and shelters across the US, and has donated over $40 million in product and funds to help women face the effects of cancer with confidence. 

    Jamie and Jay ponder on the meaning of self-worth, distinguishing it from mere confidence and challenging the misguided belief that our value is tied to our physical appearance. We get to hear the detrimental effects of self-doubt and present empowering strategies to transform your relationship with rejection, offering a new perspective that fosters resilience and self-compassion. 

    And then the conversation dives deep into personal beliefs, urging us to identify and discard unhelpful misconceptions, while giving emphasis on why authenticity is crucial and its role in conjunction with other factors in achieving success. 

    In this interview, you'll learn:

    How to build self-worth

    How to distinguish confidence from self-worth

    How to handle rejection

    How to overcome self-doubt

    How to remain authentic

    Together, let's learn how to distinguish your worth from external validation, turn rejection into a stepping stone, and live authentically.

    With Love and Gratitude,

    Jay Shetty

    What We Discuss:

    00:00 Intro

    03:17 Do You Feel Worthy Today?

    10:04 Confusing Confidence with Self Worth

    17:37 Your Weight Impacts Your Worth is a Lie 

    24:03 What Has Self Doubt Cost You?

    31:25 How to Change Your Relationship with Rejection

    37:02 The 4-Part R to Reframe Rejection

    44:00 You Need This Today

    48:13 Which Lie Are You Trying to Unlearn? 

    56:32 Authenticity Alone Doesn’t Guarantee Success

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