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    Bracing for a possible TikTok ban, w/ fitness entrepreneur Cassey Ho

    enMarch 28, 2024

    About this Episode

    If the U.S. government bans TikTok, a generation of content creators and brands who have built businesses on the platform will be radically disrupted. With 17 million social followers — 3.5 million of which on TikTok — fitness and lifestyle entrepreneur Cassey Ho is in the heart of that storm. Founder of athleisure brands Blogilates and POPFLEX, she joins Rapid Response host Bob Safian to discuss the fast-changing game of social engagement and what’s required right now. Plus, she offers personal lessons on building a dedicated following and how audience feedback fuels her product roadmap. 

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    🔑 Key Takeaways

    • Effective use of tools like Grammarly can create clearer, more concise documents, save time, and prioritize data security. Staying informed about tech trends and adapting to changing platforms is crucial for business success.
    • Entrepreneur Jessica utilizes TikTok to build a large following and sell products, acknowledging the need to adapt to platform changes and using multiple social media channels to reach audience.
    • Despite effort, social media success can vary greatly. Experiment, adapt, and track conversion rates to make informed decisions.
    • Diversifying and expanding into new areas can lead to significant growth for a business. Cassey Ho grew her fitness brand, Blogilates, and then launched a second brand, PopFlex, to focus on her fashion design aspirations. This allowed her to cater to different markets and price points, and eventually led to a partnership with Target.
    • Building a successful brand requires authenticity and human connection. Share your journey, failures, and imperfections to engage audience and build relationships based on transparency and honesty.
    • Genuine passion and unique offerings lead to success in a competitive digital market. Grammarly's AI-powered writing assistant can help improve content and streamline creation.
    • Following your passion and taking calculated risks can lead to significant personal and professional growth. Surround yourself with the right team and let go of toxic relationships to move forward.
    • Adaptability and diversification are crucial for businesses relying on social media. Stay informed about industry trends, be open to new ideas, and maintain a balance to make the most of opportunities while minimizing risks.

    📝 Podcast Summary

    Using Technology to Boost Productivity and Data Security

    Effective use of technology, such as Grammarly, can significantly improve productivity and data security in the workplace. Tucker Legersky, a researcher on Masters of Scale, shared how Grammarly helps him create clearer, more concise documents while saving time. He also appreciated Grammarly's commitment to responsible AI and data security. On the other hand, Cassie Ho, an entrepreneur with a large social media following, highlighted the importance of adapting to changing tech platforms and algorithms to stay relevant in business. The experiences of both Tucker and Cassie demonstrate the significance of embracing technology and staying informed about the latest trends to succeed in today's fast-paced business environment. For those interested in staying updated on tech news and trends, TED Tech is a recommended podcast.

    Jessica's Marketing Strategy on TikTok

    Entrepreneur and content creator, Jessica, uses various social media platforms, including TikTok, to market her products and build a large following. She prefers not to label herself as an influencer, but rather as an entrepreneur and content creator. The potential ban of TikTok by DC officials is a concern for her, as she has amassed a significant following of 3.5 million on the platform. However, she acknowledges the ever-changing nature of social media and the need to adapt to new rules and algorithms. Despite the potential loss of a large customer base, Jessica continues to utilize multiple platforms to reach her audience and sell her products. Her success on TikTok has led to significant sales, with some videos receiving up to 25 million views and resulting in thousands of clicks and sales within hours.

    Social media success is unpredictable

    Creating content for social media platforms like TikTok and Instagram Reels can be an unpredictable experience. Despite putting in significant effort, the success of a video can vary greatly due to algorithms and unknown rules. The speaker shared her experience of having a video with 3.5 million followers receive only 12 views, which she believes was due to undisclosed platform rules. She also mentioned the emotional toll this inconsistency can take on creators, especially those who are perfectionists. However, she emphasized the importance of experimenting and adapting to the ever-changing landscape of social media. Additionally, she suggested that tracking conversion rates by platform can help creators make informed decisions about where to focus their efforts. Ultimately, while social media success can feel like a game, it's important to remember that there are always other options for engagement and growth.

    Expanding into a new passion

    Diversification and expansion are key to growing a successful business. Cassey Ho, the creator of Blogilates, started as a content provider on YouTube with a focus on fitness and Pilates. However, she had a passion for fashion design that she had nurtured since childhood. Instead of keeping her fashion designs as a side project, she launched a second brand, PopFlex, in 2016 to focus on her fashion design aspirations. By keeping her fitness brand and expanding into fashion, Ho was able to cater to different markets and price points. She eventually got connected to Target, which helped her reach a wider audience and increase her brand's visibility. The success of her first brand gave her the platform and resources to pursue her second passion, demonstrating that having multiple streams of revenue and expanding into new areas can lead to significant growth.

    Authenticity and human connection in brand building

    Building a successful brand today requires authenticity and human connection. As the speaker shared her experience of building a brand that landed a deal with Target, she emphasized the importance of showing the real and raw side of the brand. This includes sharing the journey of building the business, failures, and imperfections. Authenticity and human connection are increasingly valued by consumers, especially in a crowded digital space. Brands that can authentically engage with their audience and build a relationship based on transparency and honesty are more likely to succeed. This trend is likely to persist, regardless of the specific platforms or trends in marketing. Therefore, businesses should focus on creating a brand that resonates with their audience by being authentic, transparent, and human.

    Differentiating Your Brand in a Competitive Market

    In today's competitive digital landscape, it's essential to offer something unique to stand out. Social media entrepreneur Cassie Ho shared her experience of building an audience of 17 million followers while acknowledging the challenges of facing fierce competition. She emphasized the importance of differentiation in the market, as seen during the pandemic when numerous athleisure brands emerged, only for some to eventually fade away. Cassie's confidence to quit her day job and focus on Blogilates full-time came from her genuine passion for making a difference through her designs. Her first YouTube video, which was never intended for monetization, gained attention when her students asked for her custom-designed yoga bag. The recognition from publications like Shape magazine further solidified her decision to pursue her passion, demonstrating that unique offerings and genuine connections can lead to success in the digital world. Additionally, Grammarly, an AI-powered writing assistant, can help content creators produce better content by eliminating redundancies, suggesting tone adjustments, and offering personalized content based on context. Its seamless integration across various platforms allows for efficient content creation without the need for context switching.

    Finding Success by Following Passion and Taking Risks

    Following your passion and taking calculated risks can lead to significant personal and professional growth. The speaker shared her experience of hating her job but finding success with her designed bag in a national magazine, which encouraged her to quit and pursue designing full-time. Later, the growth of her YouTube channel led her to realize that Blogilates had become a brand, and she faced challenges in hiring the right people to support her business. Despite these struggles, she emphasized the importance of surrounding oneself with the right team and letting go of toxic relationships to move forward. For those considering blurring the lines between business and personal life, she suggested being mindful of the potential challenges and ensuring that the partnership is beneficial for both parties.

    Leveraging Different Social Media Platforms for Business Growth

    While social media platforms can significantly boost a business, relying too heavily on any one platform can leave it vulnerable. This was highlighted in the conversation between Cassie and Bob, who run a social-based business and have different strengths and weaknesses. They've learned the importance of respecting each other's expertise and avoiding work-related disputes, especially since they work remotely. The dynamic nature of social media, with new platforms constantly emerging and evolving, underscores the importance of adaptability and diversification. As Cassie noted, their audience on a particular platform can be a valuable asset, but it also comes with risks. The key is to make the most of the opportunities presented by social media while minimizing the risks. This requires staying informed about industry trends, being open to new ideas, and maintaining a balance between different aspects of the business.

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