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    #420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

    The human element and potential for miscommunication during a nuclear crisis increases the risk of catastrophic consequences.

    enMarch 22, 2024

    About this Episode

    Annie Jacobsen is an investigative journalist and author of "Nuclear War: A Scenario" and many other books on war, weapons, government secrecy, and national security. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - HiddenLayer: https://hiddenlayer.com/lex - BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off - Policygenius: https://policygenius.com/lex - NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/annie-jacobsen-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Nuclear War: A Scenario (book): https://amzn.to/3THZHfr Annie's Twitter: https://twitter.com/anniejacobsen Annie's Website: https://anniejacobsen.com/ Annie's Books: https://amzn.to/3TGWyMJ Annie's Books (audio): https://adbl.co/49ZnI7c PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (07:37) - Nuclear war (12:21) - Launch procedure (18:00) - Deterrence (21:34) - Tactical nukes (30:59) - Nuclear submarines (33:59) - Nuclear missiles (41:10) - Nuclear football (50:17) - Missile interceptor system (54:34) - North Korea (1:01:10) - Nuclear war scenarios (1:10:02) - Warmongers (1:14:31) - President's cognitive ability (1:20:43) - Refusing orders (1:28:41) - Russia and Putin (1:33:48) - Cyberattack (1:35:09) - Ground zero of nuclear war (1:39:48) - Surviving nuclear war (1:44:06) - Nuclear winter (1:54:29) - Alien civilizations (2:00:04) - Extrasensory perception (2:13:50) - Area 51 (2:17:48) - UFOs and aliens (2:28:15) - Roswell incident (2:34:55) - CIA assassinations (2:53:47) - Navalny (2:56:12) - KGB (3:02:48) - Hitler and the atomic bomb (3:06:52) - War and human nature (3:10:17) - Hope

    🔑 Key Takeaways

    • Securing machine learning models is crucial for businesses in the 21st century and maintaining mental well-being through therapy and mental fortitude is essential for individuals.
    • Effective business management and diplomacy are crucial for preventing catastrophic events, such as a nuclear war, and ensuring the survival of billions of people.
    • The president holds the sole authority to make a nuclear response within six minutes, bearing the immense responsibility to consider lives at stake, including their own and millions of others.
    • Misconceptions about containing nuclear war are dangerous, as the use of a tactical nuclear weapon could escalate into a full-blown nuclear war with devastating consequences, emphasizing the importance of open dialogue between world leaders to prevent misunderstandings and miscalculations.
    • A nuclear missile's journey from launch to detonation takes 26-33 minutes, with 5-minute boost, 20-minute mid-course, and 1-10 minute terminal phases. Nuclear-powered submarines can reach US coasts undetected within 10 minutes, posing an imminent threat.
    • Nations strive to maintain second strike capabilities through submarines and ICBMs, with submarines offering near invisibility and ICBMs quick launch capabilities. New developments pose challenges to safety and highlight the need for continued vigilance.
    • DARPA drives innovation in weapon systems and nuclear technologies, with the urgency of war and potential annihilation as motivators. The presidential nuclear football and a black book in the Stratcom bunker illustrate the decision-making process in a nuclear threat scenario.
    • The nuclear attack response involves a doomsday plane, human and mechanical elements, and only 44 interceptor missiles with a 50% success rate.
    • Despite having effective defensive systems, they cannot handle a large-scale nuclear attack from North Korea. The potential for human errors and false alarms adds to the urgency of finding a peaceful solution.
    • Despite the dangers, governments rely on deterrence and outdated info, increasing risk of nuclear war. Errors in satellite systems and ICBM ranges necessitate transparency, communication, and disarmament.
    • The human element and potential for miscommunication during a nuclear crisis increases the risk of catastrophic consequences.
    • During a nuclear war, the president's cognitive abilities and good judgment are vital for life-or-death decisions. Historically, nuclear wars are believed to be unwinnable, adding to the importance of a capable president.
    • The nuclear launch decision is a grave responsibility, resting with the president and the commander of Stratcom, involving a 'football' briefcase with crucial codes. While unlikely, the commander's stance might change in uncertain times, emphasizing the importance of trustworthy leaders and public awareness.
    • From a belief in nuclear weapons as a symbol of national strength to concerns about the threat they pose, various perspectives on nuclear weapons have evolved throughout history. Understanding these perspectives is essential for assessing the current nuclear landscape and potential risks.
    • A nuclear attack brings about devastating consequences, including fatalities, infrastructure damage, and chaos, making diplomacy and de-escalation crucial.
    • A nuclear war would lead to devastating consequences including no population protection, loss of electricity, communication, and food supply, megafires, nuclear winter, plummeting temperatures, agriculture failure, and radiation poisoning.
    • A nuclear war could result in a return to a hunter-gatherer state, with limited resources and no rule of law, while smaller animals and insects may thrive.
    • Pondering the universe's mysteries can lead to insights about human consciousness and our place in the cosmos, as evidenced by astronaut Ed Mitchell's experience. The government's investigations into ESP and psychokinesis also highlight the enduring interest in the human mind.
    • The CIA's exploration of ESP and related phenomena, fueled by post-WWII competition, had mixed outcomes, leading to both scientific advancements and ethical concerns.
    • Building trust and showing genuine interest in people's personal stories can lead to valuable insights and meaningful connections, enriching the reporting experience
    • Area 51, known for UFO rumors, is a military base with a history of technological innovation and secrecy, including the testing of the U2 spy plane and the development of the Mach 3 A12 Oxcart. Despite unproven claims of alien activity, the base's impact on military technology is undeniable.
    • Intelligence agencies have used intriguing UFO topics to divert public attention, leading to hysteria and false narratives, while potentially concealing real secrets or even the existence of alien civilizations.
    • The discovery of extraterrestrial life or an encounter with alien intelligence raises profound philosophical, existential, military, and geopolitical questions. The reliability of sources and their motivations for sharing information is crucial in evaluating such claims.
    • The CIA, under Title 50, conducts covert actions, including assassinations, without the same legal restrictions as the military, raising ethical concerns.
    • The CIA's covert assassination missions involve highly skilled pilots and special forces, who are 'sheep dipped' into the agency to maintain anonymity and carry out illegal operations, such as the one involving Osama bin Laden.
    • Intelligence gathering is a crucial part of assassinations, involving various agencies with unique strengths, and women can be effective due to their ability to get closer to targets. The CIA has paramilitary organizations for covert ops, but boundaries between agencies can be blurred.
    • Thorough research, multiple sources, and a critical perspective are essential in national security journalism to uncover the truth, considering intelligence officers' biases and historical context.
    • Biometric systems and personal data sharing in the civilian sector raise privacy concerns, while advancing surveillance technology adds ethical complexities.
    • Nuclear weapons have served as a deterrent for war, but their immense power raises concerns about civilization's end and the integration of AI in warfare. Human evolution beyond war and a multi-planetary civilization are potential solutions, but addressing conflict and keeping up with technology are essential.
    • Societies value transparency over secrecy for maintaining trust and healthy democracies, but a balance between transparency and national security is necessary.

    📝 Podcast Summary

    Battles in the 21st century will be fought in the domain of machine learning security

    She emphasized that the 21st century's battles will be fought in this domain, and securing machine learning models is crucial for businesses. Additionally, she discussed the importance of securing one's mind, which she believes can be achieved through therapy and mental fortitude. The episode was also sponsored by Hidden Layer, BetterHelp, Policy Genius, and NetSuite. Hidden Layer focuses on securing machine learning models, BetterHelp offers accessible and effective therapy, Policy Genius simplifies insurance comparisons, and NetSuite provides a comprehensive cloud business management system.

    The importance of efficient business operations and responsible international relations

    Effective business operations rely on efficient management systems, like NetSuite, to handle complex areas such as HR, finances, and e-commerce. Meanwhile, on a larger scale, the machinery of capitalism and democracy must work together to prevent unethical behavior and maintain peace. However, a chilling reminder comes from the realm of nuclear war. According to Annie Jacobson's research, a nuclear war between the US and Russia could result in the deaths of up to 5 billion people within seconds to hours, and later from starvation during nuclear winter. This underscores the importance of preventing such a catastrophic event and emphasizes the significance of responsible decision-making and diplomacy in international relations.

    President's six-minute decision during a nuclear war

    During a nuclear war, the president is the only person with the authority to make the decision to launch a response within a six-minute window. This concept, known as "soul presidential authority," exists due to the extreme speed at which nuclear war unfolds. The president must consider the mortality of not only themselves but also loved ones and the potential suffering and death of millions. The weight of this responsibility is often not fully understood by presidents until they are in a position to make such a decision. The immediacy of the situation is counterintuitive and highlights the potential for catastrophic consequences if a nuclear war were to occur. With tensions rising between nuclear-armed nations and threats being made by leaders, the assumption of deterrence that no one will launch becomes increasingly uncertain.

    One misstep away from nuclear war

    The world is currently in a precarious nuclear standoff between major powers, with the potential for catastrophic consequences if the "line" is crossed. Nuclear arsenals between the US and Russia alone consist of over 3,400 deployed weapons, capable of launching in seconds to minutes. The use of a tactical nuclear weapon, which is smaller and intended for battlefield use, could escalate into a full-blown nuclear war. This misconception that such a use could be contained is a dangerous one, and numerous national security advisors have warned it's a possibility. The consequences of such an event would be devastating and virtually impossible to reverse. The UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres has emphasized that we are "one misunderstanding, one miscalculation away from nuclear Armageddon." It's crucial that world leaders and decision-makers engage in open dialogue about the risks and the importance of avoiding nuclear conflict. The exact travel times for nuclear weapons across oceans, for instance, from the US to Russia or China, are closely guarded secrets. However, it's important to recognize that the potential for nuclear war is a very real and pressing concern.

    From Launch to Detonation: Nuclear Missile Phases

    The process of a nuclear missile's journey from launch to detonation takes approximately 26-33 minutes, divided into three phases: boost, mid-course, and terminal. Boost lasts five minutes, mid-course lasts 20 minutes, and terminal lasts 1-10 minutes. This timeline is significant because it highlights the urgency and the potential devastating impact of a nuclear attack. Furthermore, nuclear-powered submarines, which possess second strike capacity, can reach the US coasts undetected within under 10 minutes, making the threat even more imminent. These submarines, described as "unstoppable" and "unlocatable," pose a grave danger to civilization. The only hope lies in communication and prevention efforts.

    Nuclear Weapons: Submarines and ICBMs in Global Security

    Nuclear weapons, specifically submarines and intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), play a crucial role in global security, with each side striving to maintain a second strike capability. Submarines are nearly undetectable and can launch ballistic missiles from underwater, while ICBMs, though underground in silos in the US, can be launched in a minute. Russia and North Korea have road mobile launchers, making their missiles harder to target. Intelligence agencies have extensive knowledge of these weapons and their launch procedures, but new developments pose a significant threat. The ongoing arms race highlights the challenge of maintaining safety while avoiding the potential catastrophic consequences of nuclear war.

    DARPA's role in creating advanced weapon systems and nuclear technologies

    DARPA, established in 1957, plays a crucial role in creating advanced weapon systems for the United States, including nuclear technologies. The urgency of war and the risk of annihilation serve as significant motivators for engineering innovation. The presidential nuclear football, a highly classified satchel, is always with the president or vice president, granting them the power to launch a counter-attack in the event of a nuclear threat. This decision-making process involves consulting a laminated plastic menu with potential targets and weapon systems. A similar black book exists in the Stratcom bunker in Nebraska, one of three command centers involved in nuclear war response. The Pentagon bunker serves as the beating heart, Cheyenne Mountain as the brains, and the Stratcom bunker as the muscle, with the Stratcom Commander directing the response efforts.

    The Complex Process of Handling a Nuclear Attack

    The process of handling a nuclear attack, from receiving orders to launching countermeasures, is a complex and mechanized system that can unfold in a matter of minutes. This includes the use of a "doomsday plane" carrying a commander ready to make decisions if the Pentagon is taken out. The system is a balance of human and mechanical elements, and the potential consequences are devastating. Despite the existence of interceptor missiles, the United States only has 44 of them, with a success rate of around 50%. The interceptor program is currently on strategic pause, meaning it's not being actively developed to improve its capabilities. The reality of nuclear weapons is a stark reminder of the potential for global destruction.

    North Korea's nuclear threat and the limitations of current defensive systems

    The current defensive systems, such as THAAD and EGIS, while effective against smaller threats, cannot handle a large-scale nuclear attack from North Korea. North Korea is estimated to have between 50 to over 100 nuclear weapons, making the situation increasingly dangerous. There have been several close calls in the past due to human errors and false alarms, highlighting the potential for catastrophic consequences. The likelihood of mistakes and false alarms adds to the urgency of finding a peaceful solution to the North Korean nuclear threat. The false alarm incident involving former Secretary of Defense Bill Perry in 1979 serves as a reminder of the potential consequences of such errors. The feelings of those involved in such situations can be described as a pause in their spirit, mind, and heart, as they grapple with the reality of the situation and the potential consequences of their actions.

    Nuclear weapons systems built on fragile assumptions

    The nuclear weapons systems, despite being designed to prevent nuclear war, are built on a fragile foundation of assumptions and outdated information. Former Defense Secretary William Perry shared his personal experience of realizing the madness of nuclear arms race, and the potential consequences of nuclear war as described in the declassified war game scenario "Proud Profit" in 1983. The scenario showed that no matter how nuclear war starts, it ends in total destruction. Yet, governments continue to rely on deterrence and the threat of escalation, which could lead to disastrous consequences. Additionally, there are significant errors and misunderstandings in the current nuclear weapons systems, with flawed satellite systems and ICBMs lacking the necessary range to respond effectively. These issues highlight the urgent need for transparency, communication, and disarmament to prevent a catastrophic nuclear conflict.

    Communication breakdown during crises could lead to nuclear war

    The potential for miscommunication and lack of trust between nuclear-armed nations during a crisis could lead to catastrophic consequences. The example given was during the Ukraine war when the Russian and American military leaders could not reach each other for several hours, raising concerns about how communication would fare during a nuclear conflict. The political climate and advisors surrounding the president also play a role in decision-making, with the potential for hawkish advisors pushing for aggressive counterattacks, further increasing the risk of nuclear war. The six-minute window for decision-making adds to the pressure, and the need for continuity of government only adds to the complexity. Ultimately, the human element and potential for miscommunication make the prospect of nuclear war a dangerous and uncertain situation.

    President's crucial role during a nuclear war

    During a nuclear war scenario, the president's cognitive and judgment abilities become exponentially more important due to the life-or-death decision-making involved. Historically, there was a belief that nuclear wars could be won, but the prevailing thought now is that they cannot be won and must never be fought. The president's role as commander-in-chief and the potential consequences of a nuclear war highlight the importance of electing a president with strong cognitive abilities and good judgment. The six-minute window for making the decision adds to the urgency and importance of the president's role. While advisors and the national security apparatus play a role, ultimately the president must make the call, making their character and decision-making skills crucial.

    The Nuclear Launch Decision: A President's Power and a Commander's Dilemma

    The nuclear launch decision rests in the hands of the president and the commander of Stratcom. This process involves a briefcase known as the "football," which contains codes that match those in the president's wallet. The commander of Stratcom follows orders, but the question of whether they would defy them in uncertain situations is a complex one. Experts believe it's highly unlikely due to the nature of the role and the gravity of the decision. However, during times of political instability or uncertainty, the commander's stance might change. The situation underscores the importance of electing trustworthy leaders and increasing public awareness and involvement in politics. The potential consequences of a nuclear launch decision are immense, making it a responsibility for all citizens to be informed and engaged.

    Understanding Perspectives of Individuals and Nations on Nuclear Weapons

    Throughout history, there have been many individuals involved in the development, deployment, and even use of nuclear weapons, from the Manhattan Project to the present day. These individuals held varying perspectives, from a strong belief in the importance of nuclear weapons as a symbol of national strength to a growing concern about the threat they pose. For instance, an engineer who worked on nuclear bombs during the 1950s held a nationalistic view, while another CIA paramilitary operative saw the potential for tactical nuclear weapons. As we move closer to the present day, there's a growing consensus among some former cold warriors that something must be done to reduce the nuclear threat. In the case of Russia, their nuclear policies have evolved, with some experts suggesting that they may no longer wait to absorb an attack before launching their own. Putin, who comes from the intelligence world, may hold a paranoid mindset, which could make him more prone to respond to erroneous signals and launch a nuclear attack. It's crucial to understand the perspectives of individuals and nations regarding nuclear weapons to assess the current nuclear landscape and potential risks.

    Nuclear war: Consequences and challenges

    The potential for nuclear war and its devastating consequences, including the impact on communication systems and the chaos that ensues, is a serious concern. The analog nature of nuclear command and control systems means they are not susceptible to hacking, but the aftermath of a nuclear attack brings about significant challenges, such as fires, radiation poisoning, and the collapse of infrastructure. The Pentagon is a major concern as a potential target for a "bolt out of the blue" attack, and the consequences would be catastrophic, with immediate and long-term fatalities, destruction of infrastructure, and a power grid failure. Survivors would be left to fend for themselves in a fight for food, water, and basic necessities. This underscores the importance of diplomacy and de-escalation efforts to prevent such a scenario.

    Initial stages of a nuclear war: No population protection, loss of electricity, communication, and food supply

    A nuclear war would lead to devastating consequences for both the earth and humanity. Former FEMA Director Craig Fugate shares that in such a scenario, there would be no population protection, and everyone could potentially perish. The first few hours would bring the end of electricity, communication lines, and food supply. Professor Brian Toon, an original author of the nuclear winter theory, explains that modern climate models reveal that nuclear winter is even worse than initially predicted. The bombing would stop after approximately 72 minutes, but megafires would ensue, leading to the blocking out of the sun and a nuclear winter. Temperatures would plummet, agriculture would fail, and food sources would dwindle. The aftermath would also include radiation poisoning. These are just the initial stages of the catastrophic events that would unfold in the event of a nuclear war.

    A nuclear war could lead to the collapse of civilization and extinction of larger animals

    A nuclear war could lead to the collapse of civilization and the extinction of larger body animals, while smaller animals and insects may thrive. This catastrophic event could result in a return to a hunter-gatherer state for humans, with no rule of law and limited resources. The oldest known civilization in Turkey, Gobackly Tapi, may serve as a reminder of our past, but much of our history and technological advancements since the industrial age could be forgotten. The idea of what is buried becomes interesting, as we consider what future civilizations might wish for based on our current actions and priorities.

    The connection between the universe and human consciousness

    The mysteries of the universe and the mysteries of the human mind are deeply connected. As we ponder the existence of alien civilizations and the great filter that may be preventing us from making contact, we can also reflect on the human consciousness and our own inner lives. Ed Mitchell, the sixth man to walk on the moon, had an epiphany during his journey home, realizing that man's inner and outer lives are connected to the universe. This perspective can foster conversations that de-escalate conflict and help us understand our place in the cosmos. The government's investigations into extra sensory perception (ESP) and psychokinesis reveal the long-standing interest in the human mind and consciousness, even amidst a focus on hard science and technology. Ultimately, the quest for answers to the mysteries of the universe and the human mind may hold the keys to understanding ourselves and our place in the cosmos.

    The CIA's Role in Exploring Extrasensory Perception

    The interest in extrasensory perception (ESP) and related phenomena, such as psychokinesis and astrology, has a long history that predates their popularization in the 1970s. This interest was fueled in part by the Nazi occult programs during World War II, which led to a "psychic arms race" between the United States and the Soviet Union after the war. The CIA believed in the legitimacy of ESP, despite its uncontrollability and unreliability, and explored its potential use as a weapon. The military's involvement in ESP research was largely unsuccessful due to its need for mechanized and systematic control. Today, ESP research continues, with programs like the Navy's IED detection program based on soldiers' intuition. The Thomas theorem, which states that if people believe situations are real, they are real in their consequences, highlights the importance of belief and perception in shaping reality. The CIA's role in the exploration of ESP and related phenomena is complex, with both positive and negative aspects. Conflicting feelings towards the CIA are understandable, as it has been involved in both groundbreaking scientific investigations and controversial assassination programs.

    Connecting with people on a deeper level

    Building trust and showing genuine interest in people's personal stories can lead to valuable insights and meaningful connections. As a reporter, this approach can result in unique experiences and understanding that goes beyond the surface level. The speaker shares an example of an interview with a retired CIA operative, Billy Waugh, where the human connection and trust established during their time together led to a profound moment of understanding and respect. These moments, filled with personal details and emotions, are just as valuable as any classified information or secret mission. Ultimately, the ability to connect with people on a deeper level enriches the reporting experience and provides a more nuanced understanding of the world and the people in it.

    Area 51: A Hub for Military Innovation and Secrets

    Area 51, a top-secret military base in Nevada, has a rich history of technological innovation and espionage. It began as a site to test the U2 spy plane in the 1950s and later developed the A12 Oxcart, a Mach 3 spy plane. The base was home to many World War II heroes who were given unique perks, like having lobster delivered to them in the desert. However, despite the lore and rumors of aliens and UFOs, my research and interviews with hundreds of people involved in military and intelligence programs have not provided evidence to support these claims. It's important to note that disinformation campaigns, such as the one headed by the CIA during the U2 testing era, can create confusion and misinformation. While some may believe that every UFO sighting is a U2, that's not the case. But the technological advancements and secrets that have come out of Area 51 are undeniably significant.

    Intelligence agencies use UFOs as a cover for strategic deception campaigns

    Strategic deception campaigns using intriguing topics like UFOs have been used by intelligence agencies, including the CIA, for decades to divert public attention from other matters. An example is the case of Paul Benowitz, who was discredited and sent to a mental institution after reporting UFO sightings at Kirkland Air Force Base in the 1970s and 1980s. This was part of a larger deception campaign to conceal technology he had witnessed. Such campaigns can create hysteria and distract from the real issues, with many people becoming convinced of false narratives. The government's guarding of secrets, such as unidentified flying objects, can be seen as evidence of this strategy. However, it's also possible that there are alien civilizations out there, and the government might be hiding their existence due to the complexity and incomprehensibility of their nature. Regardless, the potential consequences of such deception campaigns can be significant and far-reaching.

    Exploring the implications of extraterrestrial life and potential encounters with alien intelligence

    The question of extraterrestrial life and potential encounters with alien intelligence raises profound philosophical and existential questions, as well as military and geopolitical implications. Some believe in the importance of maintaining the belief in human uniqueness in the universe as a motivator for exploration and survival, while others entertain the possibility of disinformation campaigns, like the one proposed in the Roswell incident, which could have significant historical consequences. The reliability of sources and their motivations for sharing information is crucial in evaluating such claims. For instance, the source in the Roswell incident, Al O'Donnell, a nuclear weapons engineer, claimed that the incident was a Soviet disinformation campaign, but the veracity of this claim remains debated. The potential impact of such revelations on national security and public perception underscores the importance of critical thinking and fact-checking.

    CIA's use of covert actions like assassinations

    The use of covert actions, including assassinations, by intelligence agencies like the CIA, is a long-standing practice, even when diplomacy and war are not viable options. The CIA's involvement in such activities is well-documented, with historical records revealing the existence of programs dedicated to assassinations during the Cold War. These programs, which operate under Title 50, allow the CIA to act without the same legal restrictions that apply to the military. The use of such methods raises ethical and moral concerns, as seen in the case of the individual discussed, who was responsible for arming nuclear bombs and had top-secret clearances, yet faced criticism for being an unreliable source. Despite the controversy, the individual claimed that it was appropriate to reveal their identity due to the importance of exposing the details of conflicting programs on both the Soviet and American sides. The blurring lines between diplomacy, war, and covert action highlight the complex and often dark realities of national security.

    CIA's Role in Covert Assassinations: Pilots and Special Forces

    The CIA plays a significant role in covert operations involving assassinations, and these operations require the involvement of highly skilled pilots and special forces. The pilots, often former military personnel, are "sheep dipped" into the CIA to carry out missions that defy the law. These missions, such as the one involving Osama bin Laden, require complete anonymity, with untraceable uniforms and weapons. The ethical implications of such operations and the role they play in geopolitics and military strategy are complex and debated at the highest levels of power. Operators like Billy Waugh, who have been involved in such missions, maintain a focus on the mission at hand and do not discuss specific assassinations due to their classified nature. The technical difficulty of these missions depends on the specific circumstances, and extensive reconnaissance is required to ensure the correct target is identified before any action is taken.

    The Role of Intelligence in Assassinations: A Complex Process

    Assassinations and intelligence gathering are complex and intricate processes involving various intelligence agencies with unique strengths and weaknesses. The discussion highlighted the role of Billy Waugh in the capture of Emod Mugnia, a most-wanted terrorist, and how the game of intelligence can be dirty and unpredictable. Women are also part of these operations and can be more effective due to their ability to get closer to targets. The intelligence aspect of assassinations can be more challenging than the actual act, as targets can be well-hidden and protected. The CIA, for instance, is known for its paramilitary organizations like the Special Activities Division and the Special Activity Center, which conduct covert operations. However, the boundaries between different intelligence agencies can be blurred, and they often work together or take credit for each other's accomplishments.

    Suspicions raised by Russia's history of assassinating dissidents

    Journalism in the national security world requires multiple sources and corroboration to uncover the truth. An intelligence officer's perception of events can be influenced by their agency's biases, and it's crucial to look to historical records for context. For instance, Russia's history of assassinating dissidents raises suspicions about the death of Alexei Navalny. Regarding intelligence agencies, the US and Soviet Union's approaches during the Cold War showed distinct differences. While America aimed to maintain democratic ideals, the Soviet Union exhibited a ruthless, totalitarian approach. In terms of surveillance, the US has been revealed to engage in mass surveillance, but the degree and methods are subjects of ongoing debate. Ultimately, the importance of thorough research, multiple sources, and a critical perspective cannot be overstated in the world of national security journalism.

    Blurred Lines Between State and Self-Surveillance

    The line between state-sponsored surveillance and self-surveillance is becoming increasingly blurred. Biometric systems, once the domain of military and intelligence agencies, are now being adopted by civilian sector companies, and individuals willingly share vast amounts of personal data online. This data can be used for tracking and locating individuals, raising questions about privacy and potential misuse. The capabilities of surveillance technology, such as drones and facial recognition software, continue to advance, and the ethical implications of their use are complex and nuanced. The historical context of surveillance, from World War II to the present day, offers valuable insights into the moral dilemmas and potential consequences of these technologies.

    Nuclear Weapons' Impact on History and Geopolitics

    The development and use of nuclear weapons, as seen in the examples of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and later the thermonuclear bomb, have significantly shaped global history and geopolitics. These weapons have served as a deterrent for war, but their immense power also raises concerns about human civilization's potential end and the increasing complexity of warfare with the integration of artificial intelligence. The optimistic perspective is that humans can evolve beyond war and establish a multi-planetary civilization, but it requires addressing the human desire for conflict and keeping up with the rapid advancement of technology. Ultimately, the legacy we leave behind and inspiring the next generation are crucial motivators for positive change.

    Secrecy in society breeds distrust

    John F. Kennedy once said, "The very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and open society." Secrecy can breed distrust and suspicion, and societies have historically been wary of secret societies, secret oaths, and secret proceedings. This sentiment holds true today, especially in the context of national security and government operations. While secrecy may be necessary in certain situations to protect sensitive information, it should not be the norm. A balance must be struck between national security and the need for transparency to maintain public trust. As citizens, we have the right to know what our government is doing in our name, and transparency is essential for maintaining a healthy and functioning democracy.

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    #429 – Paul Rosolie: Jungle, Apex Predators, Aliens, Uncontacted Tribes, and God

    #429 – Paul Rosolie: Jungle, Apex Predators, Aliens, Uncontacted Tribes, and God
    Paul Rosolie is a naturalist, explorer, author, and founder of Junglekeepers, dedicating his life to protecting the Amazon rainforest. Support his efforts at https://junglekeepers.org Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - ShipStation: https://shipstation.com/lex and use code LEX to get 60-day free trial - Yahoo Finance: https://yahoofinance.com - BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off - NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour - Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com/lex to get $350 off - Shopify: https://shopify.com/lex to get $1 per month trial Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/paul-rosolie-2-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Paul's Instagram: https://instagram.com/paulrosolie Junglekeepers: https://junglekeepers.org Paul's Website: https://paulrosolie.com Mother of God (book): https://amzn.to/3ww2ob1 PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (12:29) - Amazon jungle (14:47) - Bushmaster snakes (26:13) - Black caiman (44:33) - Rhinos (47:47) - Anacondas (1:18:04) - Mammals (1:30:10) - Piranhas (1:41:00) - Aliens (1:58:45) - Elephants (2:10:02) - Origin of life (2:23:21) - Explorers (2:36:38) - Ayahuasca (2:45:03) - Deep jungle expedition (2:59:09) - Jane Goodall (3:01:41) - Theodore Roosevelt (3:12:36) - Alone show (3:22:23) - Protecting the rainforest (3:38:36) - Snake makes appearance (3:46:47) - Uncontacted tribes (4:00:11) - Mortality (4:01:39) - Steve Irwin (4:09:18) - God
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    #428 – Sean Carroll: General Relativity, Quantum Mechanics, Black Holes & Aliens

    #428 – Sean Carroll: General Relativity, Quantum Mechanics, Black Holes & Aliens
    Sean Carroll is a theoretical physicist, author, and host of Mindscape podcast. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - HiddenLayer: https://hiddenlayer.com/lex - Cloaked: https://cloaked.com/lex and use code LexPod to get 25% off - Notion: https://notion.com/lex - Shopify: https://shopify.com/lex to get $1 per month trial - NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/sean-carroll-3-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Sean's Website: https://preposterousuniverse.com Mindscape Podcast: https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/ Sean's YouTube: https://youtube.com/@seancarroll Sean's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/seanmcarroll Sean's Twitter: https://twitter.com/seanmcarroll Sean's Instagram: https://instagram.com/seanmcarroll Sean's Papers: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=Lfifrv8AAAAJ Sean's Books: https://amzn.to/3W7yT9N PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (11:03) - General relativity (23:22) - Black holes (28:11) - Hawking radiation (32:19) - Aliens (41:15) - Holographic principle (1:05:38) - Dark energy (1:11:38) - Dark matter (1:20:34) - Quantum mechanics (1:41:56) - Simulation (1:44:18) - AGI (1:58:42) - Complexity (2:11:25) - Consciousness (2:20:32) - Naturalism (2:24:49) - Limits of science (2:29:34) - Mindscape podcast (2:39:29) - Einstein

    #427 – Neil Adams: Judo, Olympics, Winning, Losing, and the Champion Mindset

    #427 – Neil Adams: Judo, Olympics, Winning, Losing, and the Champion Mindset
    Neil Adams is a judo world champion, 2-time Olympic silver medalist, 5-time European champion, and often referred to as the Voice of Judo. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - ZipRecruiter: https://ziprecruiter.com/lex - Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com/lex to get special savings - MasterClass: https://masterclass.com/lexpod to get 15% off - LMNT: https://drinkLMNT.com/lex to get free sample pack - NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/neil-adams-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Neil's Instagram: https://instagram.com/naefighting Neil's YouTube: https://youtube.com/NAEffectiveFighting Neil's TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@neiladamsmbe Neil's Facebook: https://facebook.com/NeilAdamsJudo Neil's X: https://x.com/NeilAdamsJudo Neil's Website: https://naeffectivefighting.com Neil's Podcast: https://naeffectivefighting.com/podcasts/the-dojo-collective-podcast A Life in Judo (book): https://amzn.to/4d3DtfB A Game of Throws (audiobook): https://amzn.to/4aA2WeJ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (09:13) - 1980 Olympics (26:35) - Judo explained (34:40) - Winning (52:54) - 1984 Olympics (1:01:55) - Lessons from losing (1:17:37) - Teddy Riner (1:37:12) - Training in Japan (1:52:51) - Jiu jitsu (2:03:59) - Training (2:27:18) - Advice for beginners

    #426 – Edward Gibson: Human Language, Psycholinguistics, Syntax, Grammar & LLMs

    #426 – Edward Gibson: Human Language, Psycholinguistics, Syntax, Grammar & LLMs
    Edward Gibson is a psycholinguistics professor at MIT and heads the MIT Language Lab. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - Yahoo Finance: https://yahoofinance.com - Listening: https://listening.com/lex and use code LEX to get one month free - Policygenius: https://policygenius.com/lex - Shopify: https://shopify.com/lex to get $1 per month trial - Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com/lex to get special savings Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/edward-gibson-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Edward's X: https://x.com/LanguageMIT TedLab: https://tedlab.mit.edu/ Edward's Google Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=4FsWE64AAAAJ TedLab's YouTube: https://youtube.com/@Tedlab-MIT PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (10:53) - Human language (14:59) - Generalizations in language (20:46) - Dependency grammar (30:45) - Morphology (39:20) - Evolution of languages (42:40) - Noam Chomsky (1:26:46) - Thinking and language (1:40:16) - LLMs (1:53:14) - Center embedding (2:19:42) - Learning a new language (2:23:34) - Nature vs nurture (2:30:10) - Culture and language (2:44:38) - Universal language (2:49:01) - Language translation (2:52:16) - Animal communication

    #425 – Andrew Callaghan: Channel 5, Gonzo, QAnon, O-Block, Politics & Alex Jones

    #425 – Andrew Callaghan: Channel 5, Gonzo, QAnon, O-Block, Politics & Alex Jones
    Andrew Callaghan is the host of Channel 5 on YouTube, where he does street interviews with fascinating humans at the edges of society, the so-called vagrants, vagabonds, runaways, outlaws, from QAnon adherents to Phish heads to O Block residents and much more. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - ShipStation: https://shipstation.com/lex and use code LEX to get 60-day free trial - BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off - LMNT: https://drinkLMNT.com/lex to get free sample pack - MasterClass: https://masterclass.com/lexpod to get 15% off - AG1: https://drinkag1.com/lex to get 1 month supply of fish oil Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/andrew-callaghan-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Channel 5 with Andrew Callaghan: https://www.youtube.com/channel5YouTube Andrew's Instagram: https://instagram.com/andreww.me Andrew's Website: https://andrew-callaghan.com/ Andrew's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/channel5 This Place Rules: https://www.hbo.com/movies/this-place-rules Books Mentioned: On the Road: https://amzn.to/4aLPLHi Siddhartha: https://amzn.to/49rthKz PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (08:53) - Walmart (10:24) - Early life (29:14) - Hitchhiking (40:49) - Couch surfing (49:50) - Quarter Confessions (1:07:33) - Burning Man (1:22:44) - Protests (1:28:17) - Jon Stewart (1:31:13) - Fame (1:44:31) - Jan 6 (1:48:15) - QAnon (1:54:00) - Alex Jones (2:10:52) - Politics (2:20:29) - Response to allegations (2:37:28) - Channel 5 (2:43:04) - Rap (2:44:51) - O Block (2:48:47) - Crip Mac (2:51:59) - Aliens

    #424 – Bassem Youssef: Israel-Palestine, Gaza, Hamas, Middle East, Satire & Fame

    #424 – Bassem Youssef: Israel-Palestine, Gaza, Hamas, Middle East, Satire & Fame
    Bassem Youssef is an Egyptian-American comedian & satirist, referred to as the Jon Stewart of the Arab World. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - AG1: https://drinkag1.com/lex to get 1 month supply of fish oil - Shopify: https://shopify.com/lex to get $1 per month trial - Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com/lex to get special savings - LMNT: https://drinkLMNT.com/lex to get free sample pack Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/bassem-youssef-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Bassem's X: https://x.com/Byoussef Bassem's Instagram: https://instagram.com/bassem Bassem's Facebook: https://facebook.com/bassemyousseftv Bassem's Website: https://bassemyoussef.xyz PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (06:30) - Oct 7 (36:59) - Two-state solution (52:37) - Holocaust (1:00:24) - 1948 (1:09:17) - Egypt (1:23:39) - Jon Stewart (1:25:51) - Going viral during the Arab Spring (1:49:55) - Arabic vs English (2:02:18) - Sam Harris and Jihad (2:07:25) - Religion (2:26:37) - TikTok (2:31:10) - Joe Rogan (2:33:07) - Joe Biden (2:37:33) - Putin (2:39:21) - War (2:44:17) - Hope

    #423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex

    #423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex
    Tulsi Gabbard is a politician, veteran, and author of For Love of Country. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - Riverside: https://creators.riverside.fm/LEX and use code LEX to get 30% off - ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/lexpod to get 3 months free - NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour - Notion: https://notion.com/lex Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/tulsi-gabbard-transcript EPISODE LINKS: For Love of Country (book): https://amzn.to/3VLlofM Tulsi's X: https://x.com/tulsigabbard Tulsi's YouTube: https://youtube.com/@TulsiGabbard Tulsi's Podcast: https://youtube.com/@TheTulsiGabbardShow Tulsi's Instagram: https://instagram.com/tulsigabbard Tulsi's Facebook: https://facebook.com/TulsiGabbard Tulsi's Website: https://tulsigabbard.com/ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (07:14) - War in Iraq (15:00) - Battle injuries and PTSD (22:10) - War on terrorism (30:51) - War in Gaza (34:52) - War in Ukraine (38:38) - Syria (46:20) - Warmongers (55:40) - Nuclear war (1:11:08) - TikTok ban (1:23:13) - Bernie Sanders (1:28:08) - Politics (1:46:59) - Personal attacks (1:49:07) - God

    #422 – Mark Cuban: Shark Tank, DEI & Wokeism Debate, Elon Musk, Politics & Drugs

    #422 – Mark Cuban: Shark Tank, DEI & Wokeism Debate, Elon Musk, Politics & Drugs
    Mark Cuban is a businessman, investor, star of TV series Shark Tank, long-time principal owner of Dallas Mavericks, and founder of Cost Plus Drugs. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - Listening: https://listening.com/lex and use code LEX to get one month free - Cloaked: https://cloaked.com/lex and use code LexPod to get 25% off - Notion: https://notion.com/lex - Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com/lex to get special savings - Shopify: https://shopify.com/lex to get $1 per month trial Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/mark-cuban-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Mark's X: https://twitter.com/mcuban Mark's Instagram: https://instagram.com/mcuban Cost Plus Drugs: https://costplusdrugs.com Shark Tank: https://abc.com/shows/shark-tank Dallas Mavericks: https://www.mavs.com PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (11:10) - Entrepreneurship (26:03) - Shark Tank (36:29) - How Mark made first billion (1:02:39) - Dallas Mavericks (1:08:05) - DEI debate (1:43:58) - Trump vs Biden (1:46:20) - Immigration (1:55:53) - Drugs and Big Pharma (2:11:53) - AI (2:16:05) - Advice for young people

    #421 – Dana White: UFC, Fighting, Khabib, Conor, Tyson, Ali, Rogan, Elon & Zuck

    #421 – Dana White: UFC, Fighting, Khabib, Conor, Tyson, Ali, Rogan, Elon & Zuck
    Dana White is the CEO and president of the UFC. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - LMNT: https://drinkLMNT.com/lex to get free sample pack - Notion: https://notion.com/lex - AG1: https://drinkag1.com/lex to get 1 month supply of fish oil - InsideTracker: https://insidetracker.com/lex to get 20% off Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/dana-white-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Dana's X: https://x.com/danawhite Dana's Instagram: https://instagram.com/danawhite Dana's Facebook: https://facebook.com/danawhite UFC's YouTube: https://youtube.com/@UFC UFC's Website: https://ufc.com/ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (06:31) - Mike Tyson and early days of fighting (17:10) - Jiu jitsu (23:14) - Origin of UFC (37:25) - Joe Rogan (43:31) - Lorenzo Fertitta (45:58) - Great fighters (49:55) - Khabib vs Conor (53:01) - Jon Jones (56:03) - Conor McGregor (1:01:05) - Trump (1:06:44) - Elon vs Zuck (1:08:04) - Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul (1:10:52) - Forrest Griffin vs Stephan Bonnar (1:18:06) - Gambling (1:33:08) - Mortality

    #420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

    #420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy
    Annie Jacobsen is an investigative journalist and author of "Nuclear War: A Scenario" and many other books on war, weapons, government secrecy, and national security. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - HiddenLayer: https://hiddenlayer.com/lex - BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off - Policygenius: https://policygenius.com/lex - NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/annie-jacobsen-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Nuclear War: A Scenario (book): https://amzn.to/3THZHfr Annie's Twitter: https://twitter.com/anniejacobsen Annie's Website: https://anniejacobsen.com/ Annie's Books: https://amzn.to/3TGWyMJ Annie's Books (audio): https://adbl.co/49ZnI7c PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (07:37) - Nuclear war (12:21) - Launch procedure (18:00) - Deterrence (21:34) - Tactical nukes (30:59) - Nuclear submarines (33:59) - Nuclear missiles (41:10) - Nuclear football (50:17) - Missile interceptor system (54:34) - North Korea (1:01:10) - Nuclear war scenarios (1:10:02) - Warmongers (1:14:31) - President's cognitive ability (1:20:43) - Refusing orders (1:28:41) - Russia and Putin (1:33:48) - Cyberattack (1:35:09) - Ground zero of nuclear war (1:39:48) - Surviving nuclear war (1:44:06) - Nuclear winter (1:54:29) - Alien civilizations (2:00:04) - Extrasensory perception (2:13:50) - Area 51 (2:17:48) - UFOs and aliens (2:28:15) - Roswell incident (2:34:55) - CIA assassinations (2:53:47) - Navalny (2:56:12) - KGB (3:02:48) - Hitler and the atomic bomb (3:06:52) - War and human nature (3:10:17) - Hope