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The world is facing several big challenges today—the climate crisis, food insecurity, racial injustice, the rise of AI, and insufficient access to healthcare, to name just a few. 

Today on The Doctor’s Farmacy, I am excited to talk to Dr. Rajiv Shah about how large-scale change really happens, the success and lessons he has learned throughout his career, and why we need big bets—large, bold actions—in order to solve the world’s greatest challenges.

Dr. Rajiv Shah serves as president of the Rockefeller Foundation, a global institution with a mission to promote the well-being of humanity around the world. With a century-long track record of leveraging science, technology, and innovation, The Foundation is pioneering new ways to enable individuals, families, and communities to flourish. Dr. Shah is a graduate of the University of Michigan, the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine, and the Wharton School. He has received several honorary degrees, the Secretary of State’s Distinguished Service Award, and the US Global Leadership Award. He is married to Shivam Mallick Shah, and they have three children.

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Here are more details from our interview (audio version / Apple Subscriber version):

• How Rajiv was inspired by Nelson Mandela in his youth (5:25 / 3:41)
• The first crisis Rajiv dealt with as the head of USAID (9:05 / 7:21)
• Tackling the chronic disease epidemic with food as medicine (14:54 / 13:09)
• Addressing rising obesity rates in America (32:31 / 27:52)
• The importance of believing change is possible (42:33 / 37:54)
• What makes the standard American diet so unhealthy? (48:42 / 
• Investing in weight-loss drugs vs quality food (49:26 / 44:03)
• The importance of finding the right partners to make meaningful change (52:13 / 47:35)
• Finding happiness through service to others (56:02 / 51:25)
• Rajiv’s next big bets (1:04:14 / 59:40)

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Bradley Steyn (@bradley_steyn_) is an expert on risk mitigation, operational support, and racial injustice. He is the co-author of Undercover with Mandela's Spies: The Story of the Boy Who Crossed the Square, a memoir of his time as a double agent working for Nelson Mandela during the dying days of South African Apartheid. [This is part one of a two-part episode. Keep an eye out for part two later this week!]

What We Discuss with Bradley Steyn:

• Bradley shares his observations as a white kid growing up in Apartheid-era South Africa.
• How, as a teenager, Bradley bore witness to the brutal Strijdom Square massacre, in which white supremacist Barend Hendrik Strydom calmly took the lives of eight People of Color and injured 16 with a 9mm pistol.
• The PTSD, nightmares, anger issues, and emotional distress Bradley was forced to cope with in the aftermath of this horrific experience — and still deals with more than three decades later.
• How Bradley was recruited for undercover duty by the feared security police of the Apartheid government while working as a bouncer at a Pretoria gay bar.
• What led to Bradley's dedication to the anti-Apartheid struggle and his service as a deep cover double agent within the Department of Intelligence and Security under the directive of Chris Hani's and Nelson Mandela's paramilitary wing, uMkhonto weSizwe.
• And much more...

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