pirates

Recovering stolen ships from pirates in the world's most troubled waters is big business, and Captain Max Hardberger is here to steer us through it.

What We Learn in Conversation with Captain Max Hardberger:

• Not all pirates are impoverished desperados with nothing to lose — the most vicious ones wear suits and hobnob with royalty.
• The surprising places where ships are illegitimately seized by the rich and powerful who know how to play the game.
• When ship owners can't recover their seized property through legal channels in corrupt courts, they turn to people like Captain Max Hardberger.
• How Max determines if someone's claim to a seized ship is valid, or if they're trying to scam him into heisting somebody else's property.
• The extreme "extraction" methods Max is prepared to employ when ships can't be reclaimed by mere paperwork.
• And much more...

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Michael Scott Moore (@MichaelSctMoore) is a literary journalist and novelist who wrote about being held hostage by Somali pirates in his latest book, The Desert and the Sea: 977 Days Captive on the Somali Pirate Coast.

What We Discuss with Michael Scott Moore:

• Why high-seas piracy still exists in some of the world's most desperate places.
• How an outsider -- such as a journalist like Michael Scott Moore -- can be easy prey for pirates abroad even under the "protection" of hired security.
• The types of people who become pirates and how the devoutly religious among them reconcile their actions with their faith.
• Why you'll probably never find a restaurant specializing in Somali pirate cuisine.
• How a hostage remains sane over 977 days in captivity through escape attempts and threat of torture.
• And much more...

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