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    The Rabbit R1 is Just an App??

    While the Vision Pro Dub Dub has potential, purchasing it now is risky due to its limited software updates.

    enMay 03, 2024

    About this Episode

    This week, Marques, Andrew, and David sit down to chat about birds. That's it. That's what the episode is about. But then they remember it's a tech podcast and get to the news of the week ranging from Tesla layoffs to the Rabbit R1 running on Android. We wrap it all up with a roundup of some of the new earbuds that have dropped in the last few weeks before getting into trivia answers. Enjoy! Shop products mentioned: Beats Solo4: https://geni.us/T8sUz Bose Ultra Open Earbuds: https://geni.us/GljQN Nothing Ear: https://geni.us/P3oCv Nothing Ear (a): https://geni.us/JFY3BP Links:  Tesla layoffs: https://bit.ly/3WoZiA3 Meta licensing Horizon OS: https://bit.ly/4boq1kP Rabbit R1 Article: https://bit.ly/3Wos6J0 MKBHD Rabbit R1 Review: https://bit.ly/3WqnOkG Dave2D Rabbit R1 Review: https://bit.ly/4aWZvPu Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Socials: Waveform: https://twitter.com/WVFRM Waveform: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David Imel: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok:  https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    🔑 Key Takeaways

    • Visible offers unlimited 5G data for $25/month with no hidden fees or contracts, while the Bird Buddy app focuses on bird watching and social media sharing, but comes with a higher price tag.
    • Clear communication is crucial in teams, as some members may not receive or respond to invites. Unexpected trends in birding and wildlife photography boosted Nikon sales, while Tesla's sudden layoff of its supercharger team raises concerns
    • Despite potential growth slowdown, Tesla's Supercharger network remains a top choice for EV drivers due to its superiority over competitors.
    • Meta is licensing Horizon OS, developing enterprise Vision Pro, and exploring smart glasses (Meta Ray-Bans) to increase VR adoption and offer versatile solutions.
    • The hosts discovered the surprising similarity between the bright orange color of a crested finch and the Rabbit AI device, highlighting the unexpected ways technology and nature intertwine and the joy of discovering new knowledge.
    • The HumanAI Pin's battery life has been increased by up to 5x following a recent update, addressing a core bug and improving user experience.
    • Despite improvements, users face frustrations with new devices due to limitations in features like timers and app functionality, and misunderstandings in language model interpretations of device capabilities.
    • Despite being exclusive to Rabbit 1, Rabbit OS and Lamb can technically run on Android as an app, but their primary cloud-based nature makes it inaccessible without proper endpoints.
    • Rabbit OS app on AOSP devices might lead users to believe it's a standalone system, but it doesn't replace Google services or function as a full device.
    • Rabbit's standalone nature limits its access to personal info but its advanced language model sets it apart. Exciting advancements in AI assistants from tech giants are anticipated.
    • While the Vision Pro Dub Dub has potential, purchasing it now is risky due to its limited software updates.
    • Understanding audience preferences and behavior on each platform is vital for content creators and marketers.
    • As platforms like YouTube Shorts and Instagram Reels normalize shorter formats, content creators may fill the time limit with longer videos, leading to inconsistency across platforms and potential confusion for users.
    • Instagram Reels uses algorithms to deliver personalized content, leading to potential mindless consumption, but also surprising discoveries like resonating videos and products.
    • User values consistent noise canceling, better controls, ceramic drivers, and wireless charging over superior sound quality in earbuds
    • Bose clip-on earbuds offer transparency mode and unique design, while Fairphone Fairbuds prioritize repairability and sustainability. Bose earbuds are expensive and may not be comfortable for everyone, while Fairphone Fairbuds are pricier than average but offer replaceable batteries and sustainable materials.
    • New on-ear headphones, like the Beats Solo 4, offer USB-C connectivity, longer battery life, and compatibility with Find My Device for both iOS and Android users, making them a compelling option for consumers looking for a wired alternative to wireless earbuds.
    • David Ellis shines in a trivia game covering technology, birds, and pop culture, impressing his co-hosts with his knowledge of a Helmeted Guan and Microsoft's Angry Birds app.
    • The podcast discusses the latest Xbox models, Series X and S, and their respective capabilities, with jokes and references to unrelated topics. The hosts encourage audience interaction and share personal experiences.

    📝 Podcast Summary

    A Wireless Company's Transparent and Affordable Offerings vs a Pricey Bird Watching App

    Visible, a wireless company, prides itself on transparency and affordability. They offer unlimited 5G data for $25 a month, with no hidden fees or annual contracts. Meanwhile, the hosts of the Waveform Podcast discussed various tech-related topics, including their experiences with the Bird Buddy app, which focuses on bird watching and social media sharing. The app, while pricey, offers real-time notifications and the ability to share posts with others. The hosts also mentioned Tesla's recent decision to cut its supercharger team, and the release of new R1 reviews. Overall, the conversation showcased a mix of tech news and personal experiences.

    Effective communication and follow-up in teams

    The importance of clear communication was emphasized in the discussion. Despite sending an invite code to everyone in Slack for an event, some team members didn't receive it or didn't respond. This highlights the need for effective communication and follow-up in a team setting. Another key takeaway was the unexpected trend of increased interest in birding and wildlife photography. Nikon's sales have surged due to this newfound enthusiasm, making it a challenging yet exciting area for photographers. Additionally, the sudden layoff of Tesla's entire supercharger team raised questions about the company's strategic decisions. Tesla's supercharger network has been a significant selling point for the brand, and the elimination of the team responsible for its growth and maintenance could have significant consequences. Overall, the discussion underscored the importance of effective communication, adaptability to trends, and strategic business decisions.

    Tesla's Supercharger expansion may slow down

    The expansion of the Tesla Supercharger network may slow down due to a focus on improving existing locations and maintaining 100% uptime. This could impact some planned routes for EV owners who were looking forward to new charging stations. However, despite the potential growth slowdown, Tesla's Supercharger network still outshines competitors, making it the go-to option for many EV drivers. The recent incident of a Rivian owner being confronted for charging at a Tesla Supercharger station highlights the ongoing issue of exclusivity in charging networks. Meanwhile, Rivian has announced plans to open up its Adventure Network to all EVs, which could potentially lessen the impact of Tesla's slower growth. The licensing of Horizon OS by Meta to third parties brings back memories of Microsoft's attempt to enter the AR headset market with Windows Mixed Reality, which ultimately failed due to lack of support and consumer interest. Only time will tell if Tesla's potential slowdown in network expansion will have significant consequences or if competitors will be able to catch up.

    Meta expanding VR reach with open-source Horizon OS and diverse products

    Meta is shifting its approach to virtual reality (VR) by licensing its Horizon OS to other OEMs, allowing them to build their own VR headsets. This open-source strategy is aimed at increasing VR adoption and making Meta the foundation of this technology. Meta is also focusing on the enterprise market with its Vision Pro headset, which offers features like a larger workspace and immersive panoramic images that the Quest series can't match. Additionally, Meta is exploring the smart glasses market with the Meta Ray-Bans, which could potentially make VR more accessible and integrated into everyday life. Overall, Meta's strategy is to expand its reach in the VR market by offering versatile solutions and collaborating with other companies.

    Unexpected connections between a vibrant orange bird and a gadget named Rabbit

    Technology and nature intertwine in unexpected ways. During a recent discussion, the hosts explored the similarities between a vibrant orange bird and the color of a gadget called Rabbit. The bird, named Cyanocita cristata, or the crested finch, has a striking orange color that is as bright as a safety cone. The Rabbit, an AI device by Teenage Engineering, also has an orange interface. The hosts were surprised by the coincidence and spent time discussing the bird's scientific name and the Xbox's "x" symbol, which doesn't have a definitive meaning but is often associated with the word "experience." The conversation shifted to trivia, with the hosts debating whether to ask a question about birds or Microsoft. They eventually chose birds and discussed the crested finch's name further. The discussion showcased the unexpected connections between seemingly unrelated topics and the joy of discovering new knowledge. The episode also featured sponsor messages from Shopify and Anthropic. Shopify, a global commerce platform, was highlighted for its ability to help businesses grow by making it easier to sell online and in-person. Anthropic, a company focused on building reliable and interoperable AI systems, was introduced as a provider of AI models for various tasks and budgets. Overall, the episode demonstrated the value of exploring unexpected connections and the power of technology to facilitate growth and learning.

    Significant battery life improvement for HumanAI Pin

    The recent update for the unfinished gadget, the HumanAI Pin, has significantly improved its battery life, making it last longer than before. The update, which came after the review was published, addresses a core bug that apparently drastically affected the device's battery performance. The improvement is substantial, with some users reporting a 5x increase in battery life. Additionally, the scroll wheel, a feature that received criticism, has been tweaked to move faster. However, the device still faces criticism for its lack of essential features, such as time zone selection, which are common in modern devices. The question remains, why would someone want this gadget when they already have a smartphone? The gadget's designers need to address this issue effectively to make it an attractive option for consumers. Despite these improvements, the HumanAI Pin still faces challenges in justifying its existence in a world where smartphones have become an integral part of daily life.

    Addressing issues with new devices

    There have been several updates to the new devices, addressing various issues such as time zone selection, server connection failures, music playback UI, and Bluetooth connectivity. However, some features like timers and reliable app functionality are still lacking. The language model misunderstood the device's capabilities regarding GPS location, causing confusion. Despite these improvements, users continue to experience frustrations with the devices, highlighting the need for further development. For instance, the inability to set timers on devices priced over $100 is a surprising limitation. The HomePod, a previous smart speaker, faced similar criticisms for its inability to set multiple timers at once. As we move forward in technology, it is essential to ensure that basic functionalities are not overlooked.

    Rabbit OS and Lamb can technically run on Android as an app

    The Rabbit OS and Lamb, which are known for being exclusive to the Rabbit 1 device, can technically run on an Android phone as an app. This was discovered when a former XDA Developers employee, Michelle Rahman, was able to sideload the Rabbit OS APK onto a Google Pixel 6a and complete the setup process. However, RabbitOS and Lamb are primarily cloud-based, and running them on an unofficial APK without the proper cloud endpoints won't grant access to the service. The irony lies in the fact that people have been asking why RabbitOS isn't just an app, but it turns out that it essentially is, with the device-side component being an AOSP build. The decision to create a hardware-based device instead of just an app might be a business decision, as marketing and selling an app may be more challenging than selling a physical product with the hype and excitement that comes with it.

    Rabbit OS app on AOSP devices may cause confusion about cloud reliance

    While the Rabbit OS simulated app may run on Android Open Source Project (AOSP) devices, the concern is that users might misunderstand this to mean the entire system is local and not reliant on cloud services. The creators are likely worried about this misconception as Google's services, such as Google Assistant and Google Drive, heavily rely on cloud infrastructure. The Rabbit OS device, even if improved with better hardware, would not replace the need for a smartphone entirely, but could potentially function as a companion device or an Android launcher. The orange design of the Rabbit OS device has been a topic of fascination, despite its impracticality for photography due to its intense color reflecting light. Ultimately, the Rabbit OS device, if used as an app, would not provide significant functionality or usage for most users.

    Discussing Rabbit's limitations and advancements in AI assistants

    For an assistant technology like Rabbit to be truly useful and effective, it needs access to a vast amount of personal information. However, because Rabbit is a standalone device that doesn't connect to users' phones or the internet, users must manually input their information. This limitation was compared to hiring an assistant who cannot perform basic tasks like ordering food or reading menus. The discussion also touched upon the potential advancements in AI assistants from tech giants like Google and Apple, with the upcoming Google I/O and WWDC announcements generating curiosity. The speakers also debated the idea of Rabbit having a head start due to its advanced language model (LAM), but the comparison was made to Apple's Vision Pro headset, which despite being a first-generation product, boasts impressive features. Ultimately, the speakers expressed excitement about the potential advancements in AI assistants and the possibility of these companies integrating the best features from standalone devices and existing assistants.

    Future updates of Vision Pro Dub Dub

    The potential of the Vision Pro Dub Dub, a cutting-edge device, lies in its future updates. However, purchasing it today is like taking a gamble towards that future. The device, while having made some improvements, still has a long way to go in terms of software updates. In other news, a call was put out for listeners to tweet in about wacky devices that run on Android, as part of a potential trivia question. The discussion then shifted to Microsoft's marketing mishap in 2010, when an unported bird-themed app was featured in Windows Phone 7 marketing materials. The topic of AI-generated modeling in ecommerce was also explored, with the consensus being that AI is becoming increasingly necessary for scalable solutions in this area. Lastly, the debate continued on whether YouTube should allow shorts videos to be longer than one minute, with differing opinions on the matter.

    Discussing TikTok's potential longer video length

    The length of videos people engage with on different social media platforms varies significantly. TikTok users generally prefer shorter videos, while YouTube viewers are open to longer content. The discussion revolved around the idea of extending the maximum length for TikTok videos from 60 seconds to 90 seconds. While some argue that this could lead to a slippery slope towards longer videos, others believe that it would not disrupt the feed significantly since YouTube already caters to longer videos. The conversation also touched upon the importance of defining the boundaries for each platform to maintain user experience. Overall, it's clear that understanding the audience's preferences and behavior on each platform is crucial for content creators and marketers.

    The length of content on short-form videos is expanding to fill the time allotted

    The length of content we create expands to fill the time allotted, and the normalization of shorter formats like YouTube Shorts and Instagram Reels may lead to an increase in length. Neil Mohan, CEO of YouTube, has implemented a 90-second limit for YouTube Shorts, but content over that limit must be uploaded as a regular YouTube video. This length limit is subject to expansion as people become accustomed to the new format. The same phenomenon has been observed with character limits on social media platforms like Twitter, where the average character length per tweet increases when the limit is raised. The inconsistency of different video formats and platforms, such as Instagram Reels and TikTok, can be confusing for users. Instagram Reels can be up to 90 seconds long, and Instagram has the advantage of a built-in social graph, making it easier for users to share content with their friends. While both platforms offer sharing tools, it may be easier to find and connect with friends on Instagram, leading to more frequent use of Instagram Reels.

    Discovering personalized content on Instagram Reels

    The Instagram Reels algorithm is impressively effective in delivering personalized content, even if it can lead to mindless consumption. The speaker was surprised by a disc golf video with Creed music that resonated with him, but also expressed concern about the potential negative effects of short-form video content on social media. He suggested considering regulations beyond just TikTok, and even considered extreme measures like switching to an e-reader. During the conversation, they also discussed headphones, specifically the Nothing Ear A. The speaker shared his positive experience with the earbuds, praising their comfortable fit and touch controls, as well as their good battery life and new design. He also noted some downsides, such as the noise when activating transparency mode and the fact that they don't sound as good as more expensive earbuds. Overall, he recommended the Nothing Ear A as a solid option for those looking for a more affordable, pocketable alternative to pricier earbuds.

    User prioritizes features over sound quality

    The user finds the noise canceling feature of their current earbuds effective but inconsistent, leading to frustration despite their aesthetic appeal. They've replaced their previous earbuds, the Nothing Ear Sticks, with new ones that offer better controls, ceramic drivers, and wireless charging, prioritizing these features over sound quality. The user believes the new earbuds, which are technically the Ear 3, have a better case and design but doesn't find their sound quality superior to their previous earbuds or high-end headphones like the AirPods Pro 2 or Max. The inconsistency in noise canceling performance and the importance of features like wireless charging for the user make the new earbuds a better fit for their needs, despite not being the best sounding option.

    Discussing two unique types of headphones: Bose clip-on earbuds and Fairphone Fairbuds

    We discussed two unique types of headphones: the Bose clip-on earbuds and the Fairphone Fairbuds. The Bose earbuds, which look like a cross between earbuds and earrings, offer a transparent listening experience when paused, allowing users to hear their surroundings. They're ideal for commuters, bikers, and runners who need transparency mode. However, they're quite expensive at $300 and may not be comfortable for everyone due to their clip-on design. The Fairphone Fairbuds, on the other hand, are known for their replaceable batteries. This is a great feature for those who have experienced earbuds with dead batteries or circuitry issues. They're a bit pricier than average at €149 ($162), but they use sustainable materials and can be taken apart for tinkerers. The Fairbuds have a larger design, which some users might find uncomfortable due to their size. Both sets of headphones cater to specific user needs and preferences. The Bose earbuds offer transparency and a unique design, while the Fairphone Fairbuds prioritize repairability and sustainability.

    New on-ear headphones with USB-C and improved battery life

    The market for headphones and earbuds continues to evolve, with new releases offering various features and improvements. One conspiracy theory about wireless earbuds is that people often lose one, leading to the need to buy a whole new set. New on-ear headphones, like the Beats Solo 4, have been released, which come with USB-C and improved battery life, as well as compatibility with Find My Device for both iOS and Android users. However, some users may find the design and price less appealing compared to other options. The Beats brand, despite being owned by Apple, still maintains a significant presence in the market, particularly for those looking for over-ear headphones or wanting a more affordable alternative to AirPods. Overall, the headphone market offers a range of choices for consumers, each with their unique features and benefits.

    Trivia Challenge: Technology, Birds, and Pop Culture

    The podcast discussion involved a trivia game with various questions covering topics such as technology, birds, and pop culture. David Ellis impressed his co-hosts by answering multiple questions correctly, including identifying the common name of the Cyocinata cristata bird, which is a Helmeted Guan, and recognizing the correct answer to a Microsoft-related question about an Angry Birds app. The group also had a lively debate about preferred birds, with some favoring pigeons and others morning doves. The episode showcased the hosts' camaraderie and their ability to engage in lighthearted banter while testing their knowledge.

    Understanding Xbox Series X and S capabilities

    Learning from this podcast episode is the confusion surrounding the topic of DirectX and the various Xbox series, with the hosts making several jokes and references to unrelated topics like Vulcan, V Bucks, and Pigeon or morning dove. Despite the humor, it's clear that they were discussing the latest Xbox models, Series X and Series S, and their respective capabilities. The hosts also shared some personal experiences and engaged with their audience, encouraging them to subscribe, leave comments, and interact with the content. The podcast is produced by Adam Molina and Ellis Rubin, in partnership with Vox media podcast network, and features an intro music created by Vince. The sponsor, Visible, was also introduced, highlighting their commitment to transparency and affordable wireless plans. Overall, the episode showcases the hosts' chemistry and their ability to engage with their audience, making for an entertaining and informative listening experience.

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    Is Apple Breaking the Law?

    Is Apple Breaking the Law?
    This week, we finally talk about Apple getting sued by the Department of Justice in the United States, but only after talking about Threads finally federating (kinda). We also discuss the upcoming developer conferences that were announced by both Google and Apple and talk about what we expect to see. Lastly, we talk about Full Self Driving and break down what exactly you get with each tier of Teslas autopilot. Of course, we wrap it all up with a little trivia. Enjoy! Links:  Threads on ActivityPub: https://bit.ly/3TYoCeV Verge Threads Fediverse Beta: https://bit.ly/3x8AW32 PixelFed: https://bit.ly/3TT6xie Google I/O: https://bit.ly/4aCcshf Apple WWDC: https://apple.co/3TFuI2a Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra Galaxy AI Fine Print: https://bit.ly/3vyqtxC Galaxy AI Story: https://bit.ly/4aa8k8r DOJ Sues Apple: https://bit.ly/3TD4vl5 DOJ Court Document: https://bit.ly/3xdnM4R Electrek Elon Musk FSD: https://bit.ly/3TBH1wC Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Socials: Waveform: https://twitter.com/WVFRM Waveform: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David Imel: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok:  https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    Our Favorite Productivity Apps!

    Our Favorite Productivity Apps!
    This week, we have a fun bonus episode where David Pierce from the Vergecast tries to help Marques convince Andrew to use a proper to-do list app instead of his alarm clock. Throughout the episode they gather information on how Andrew handles his task list and then try to figure out which app would be best for him to use. Then we turn the tables and see how fast David Pierce can type the alphabet! Enjoy! Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Socials: Waveform: https://twitter.com/WVFRM Waveform: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David Pierce: https://www.threads.net/@imdavidpierce David Imel: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok:  https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    iPhone...Powered by Google Gemini?

    iPhone...Powered by Google Gemini?
    This week, a lot happened! First, we talk about Mr. Beast making a show with Amazon before jumping into an Apex Legends hack that occurred. After that, Pixel 8a leaks get discussed before talking about the rumored deal that might put Google Gemini on the iPhone. We wrap it all up with a few wish list items that we hope to see from our favorite tech before getting into the trivia answers. Enjoy! Links: Mr. Beast on Colin & Samir: https://bit.ly/3Tl3M7S Mr. Beast and Amazon Prime Video: https://bit.ly/4asH70p Joanna Stern and Mira Murati Interview: https://bit.ly/3PtljJZ Apex Legends Hack: https://bit.ly/3PvYo0u Android Authority Pixel 8a Leaks: https://bit.ly/3TLRhDz Small Phones are Dead Video: https://bit.ly/3vbjiva Apple and Google Gemini Deal: https://reut.rs/3ve3PKP ChatGPT-5: https://bit.ly/4a4xUvt Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Shop products mentioned: Google Pixel 8 at https://geni.us/8YfSO Ember Mug 2 at https://geni.us/7jplAX Apple MacBook Pro M3 14” at https://geni.us/PSYdMeX Instagram/Threads/Twitter: Waveform: https://twitter.com/WVFRM Waveform: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David Imel: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok:  https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices