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    670: Vanessa Van Edwards | The Science of Succeeding with People

    Touch can indicate comfort and interest, but a person's reaction is crucial. Communication and setting expectations help create a safe and comfortable environment for physical contact.

    en-usMay 19, 2022

    About this Episode

    Vanessa Van Edwards (@vvanedwards) is the lead investigator at human behavior research lab Science of People and the author of Captivate: The Science of Succeeding with People and Cues: Master the Secret Language of Charismatic Communication. [Note: This is a previously broadcast episode from the vault that we felt deserved a fresh pass through your earholes!]

    What We Discuss with Vanessa Van Edwards:

    • How can nonverbal communication affect the first impression you make to someone — even if they’re just hearing your voice over a telephone call?
    • Explore the science of popularity — what makes the cool kids so cool?
    • Understand the difference between social attraction and romantic attraction — and why they both matter.
    • Find out what we can learn about people from their photographs — especially on dating sites.
    • What interesting patterns turn up in researching episodes of reality television shows Blind Date and Shark Tank?
    • And much more…

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    🔑 Key Takeaways

    • Transforming a spare room into an Airbnb and providing personal touches can bring financial benefits and personal fulfillment.
    • Awareness of non-verbal expressions like micro expressions and body language can influence how others perceive us. Cultural differences may not significantly impact body language gestures expressing pride.
    • Exploring why popular individuals are charismatic can provide insights for improving confidence and interpersonal relationships, but authenticity is crucial and requires a deeper understanding
    • Genuine smiles and interest in others can make us more popular and likable, according to research.
    • Smiling, nodding, making eye contact, offering a seat, suggesting a good coffee place, and being authentic can help establish connections and build a strong network. Making people feel welcome and included creates a positive atmosphere.
    • Inviting someone for coffee or a new experience can attract like-minded individuals, create memorable experiences, and lead to deeper connections and friendships.
    • Open and conscientious traits matter most in relationships for compatibility. High openness and high conscientiousness partners work best together. Neuroticism is an exception where opposites can complement each other.
    • Understanding and focusing on each other's strengths despite neurotic differences can lead to a harmonious and successful partnership
    • Being upfront about deal breakers, dietary preferences, and relaxation styles can help ensure compatibility and prevent wasting time on unfulfilling relationships. Attract those who share similar values and interests, and be clear about what you want and need in a relationship.
    • Identifying and communicating differences in energy levels and recharge sources early on is crucial for a successful relationship. Values and priorities can change, so reevaluate them thoughtfully rather than impulsively. Attraction isn't limited to romantic relationships and recognizing it can bring excitement to various aspects of life.
    • Oxytocin, a chemical released during touch and cuddling, creates a sense of safety and belonging, impacting personal and professional relationships.
    • Touch can indicate comfort and interest, but a person's reaction is crucial. Communication and setting expectations help create a safe and comfortable environment for physical contact.
    • Acting warmly and using nonverbal cues during initial stages of a relationship can improve chances of forming a strong connection, setting positive expectations and leading to the Pygmalion effect.
    • Contrary to assumptions, less skin for women and more for men led to higher ratings on Hot or Not. Sunglasses were a turnoff, but headphones were acceptable. Straight-on shots were most effective for conveying openness.
    • Angles, facial expressions, and context of photos can change how we're perceived. Looking up, smiling, and outdoor photos without sunglasses often send positive signals.
    • Recognize the power of words and nonverbal cues in shaping our self-image and interactions with others. Effective communication and understanding that our worth is not defined by external validation are crucial.
    • The Monroe Gaze, involving tilting the head back and exposing the chin and neck, is a universal sign of youth, fertility, and attraction. It's a natural and authentic seductive move.
    • Clear and concise communication and being prepared for unexpected twists are essential in high-pressure negotiations. Maintain a calm and focused mindset for optimal outcomes.

    📝 Podcast Summary

    Creating a special experience for Airbnb guests

    Creating a welcoming and special experience for guests in your home, whether you're a frequent traveler or not, can bring both financial benefits and personal fulfillment. Jen and I, hosts of the Jordan Harbender Show, share their experience of transforming their home into an Airbnb and the joy they've received from hosting guests. By designing a spare bedroom with its own exterior door and adding personal touches, they've been able to make their guests feel welcomed and cherished while also earning some extra income. This not only showcases the value of sharing your home with others but also highlights the importance of creating meaningful experiences for those around us. Additionally, research suggests that the hottest women do not necessarily show a lot of skin, but the hottest men do, as discussed in a previous episode featuring Vanessa Van Edwards. Overall, it's essential to approach life with curiosity and a willingness to test our assumptions, whether it's through scientific research or personal experiences.

    Understanding the impact of non-verbal cues

    The way we express ourselves non-verbally, through micro expressions and body language, significantly impacts how others perceive us. For instance, an "angry" microexpression or body language, which involves tightening eyebrows and hardening lips, can come across as confident but less likable to others. Similarly, studies have shown that people make similar body language gestures when they feel proud, regardless of culture. These findings suggest that being aware of our non-verbal cues and the impact they have on others can be practical in various aspects of life, such as making sales calls or interacting in social situations. However, it's important to note that not all studies in this area are replicable, and it's crucial to consider the limitations and context of each research finding.

    The science of popularity and authenticity

    The concept of power posing, while having some merit in understanding body language and confidence, has been oversimplified and lacks solid scientific research due to the challenges of studying large and diverse populations. Instead, focusing on authenticity and popularity from a scientific perspective can lead to actionable steps for improving interpersonal relationships and confidence. The science of popularity reveals that cool kids, or popular individuals, are often seen as confident and charismatic, but their appeal is not fully understood. By studying why certain individuals are popular and replicating their behaviors, one can potentially increase their own social standing and confidence. However, it's important to remember that authenticity and popularity are complex concepts and require a deeper understanding to effectively apply in real-life situations.

    Smiling and showing interest in others increases likability

    Popular kids in their natural habitat, according to research, were found to smile the most during the day and liked the most other students. This means that being interested in others and showing genuine smiles can significantly increase likability. Contrary to popular belief, this approach is not about trying to get others to like you, but rather about finding ways to genuinely like them. This discovery resonated with the speaker, who grew up with self-worth issues and a fear of rejection. By expanding his circle of friends in high school, he found that liking a diverse group of people allowed him to be liked in return. Additionally, research on Shark Tank pitches revealed that recognition smiles, not suck-up or unhappy smiles, are indicators of popularity. Overall, the takeaway is that genuine interest and positive body language can significantly impact our likability and popularity.

    Making people feel comfortable and building connections

    Building connections and persuading people to like you back can be achieved by showing congeniality and making them feel comfortable. This was observed in the behavior of successful entrepreneurs on Shark Tank, who would smile and nod at the sharks, indicating a sense of friendship and familiarity. This concept can be applied in various social situations, such as conferences or parties, where making eye contact, offering a seat, or suggesting a good coffee place can help establish a connection. By being the person who makes others feel welcome and included, you can expand your network and build a strong tribe. Authenticity is also important, but it's okay to use practical tools, such as knowing the best coffee place in the area, to make a good impression. Remember, the goal is to make people feel seen and heard, and to create a positive and welcoming atmosphere.

    Inviting someone out can lead to deeper connections

    The simple act of inviting someone out for coffee or to discover a new place can lead to deeper connections and friendships. According to Vanessa Van Edwards, people enjoy being invited and have a natural desire to be liked. By appealing to their openness personality trait, which is the love for adventure and trying new things, you can attract like-minded individuals and create memorable experiences together. Escape rooms, for instance, have been a successful way for Vanessa and her wife, Jenny, to meet new people and bond over shared experiences. Remember, the people who say "no" to your invitations might not be your person, but those who say "yes" could become valuable allies and friends. So next time you're looking to expand your network or deepen existing relationships, consider inviting someone on an adventure or trying a new experience together.

    Personality Traits and Relationship Success

    When it comes to relationships, compatibility in certain personality traits can significantly impact the success and happiness of the partnership. Specifically, openness and conscientiousness are traits where matching with a similar partner tends to work best. High open individuals may feel stifled and held back when with a low open partner, while high conscientious individuals thrive on detail-oriented routines and scheduling. However, there are exceptions, such as neuroticism, where opposites can complement each other well. High neurotics, who produce less serotonin and transport it more slowly, benefit from the calming presence of a low neurotic partner in a crisis. Understanding these personality traits and their implications can help individuals build stronger, more harmonious relationships.

    Embracing differences in relationships

    Understanding and embracing the differences in neurotic levels and personality traits in relationships is crucial for their success. While it's impossible to change someone's personality, focusing on their strengths and outsourcing tasks to complement each other can lead to a harmonious partnership. For instance, a low neurotic partner can provide calmness and stability, while a high neurotic partner can bring creativity and adaptability. Additionally, recognizing indicators of interest, such as proximity and verbal cues, can help initiate meaningful conversations and build stronger connections. Overall, embracing differences and focusing on each other's strengths can lead to a fulfilling and successful relationship.

    Being specific in dating saves time and energy

    Being specific and authentic in your dating profile or in relationships can save you time and energy by avoiding ambivalent connections. Being upfront about deal breakers, dietary preferences, and relaxation styles can help ensure compatibility and prevent wasting time on relationships that may not be fulfilling in the long run. Instead of trying to appeal to everyone, it's better to attract those who share similar values and interests. Additionally, being clear about what you want and need in a relationship can help you find a more meaningful connection.

    Understanding Energy Levels and Recharge Sources

    Understanding your energy levels and recharge sources, as well as those of your potential partner, is crucial for a successful relationship. Ambiverts, who have both extroverted and introverted tendencies, often have different preferences for how they recharge. It's essential to identify these differences early on and communicate openly about them. Neglecting this can lead to unnecessary conflicts and even divorce. Moreover, people's values and priorities can change over time, so it's essential to reevaluate them thoughtfully rather than impulsively. The distinction between "can I do better?" and "are my values still important to me?" is crucial to avoid unnecessary relationship upheaval. Lastly, attraction is not limited to romantic relationships; it can also be present in professional and social connections. Recognizing and embracing these magnetic desires can bring excitement and fulfillment to various aspects of life.

    Oxytocin: The Foundation of All Relationships

    Oxytocin, a chemical produced in the body, plays a crucial role in forming connections, whether in personal relationships or in business settings. This neurotransmitter, often associated with romantic feelings, is released during touch and cuddling, but it also plays a significant role in business interactions. For instance, a study on blind dates revealed that touch within the first few minutes can help break the ice and answer the "friend or foe" question, which is constantly on women's minds when assessing a potential partner. This initial touch can lead to a chemical oxytocin burst, creating a sense of safety and belonging. The study also showed that women can often guess a man's kissing and bed skills based on his walk, which may indicate hip tension and variability of movement. This variability in touch, similar to a man's walk, can signal a sense of comfort and safety, leading to the release of oxytocin. In essence, oxytocin is the foundation of all relationships, whether romantic or professional, and it plays a crucial role in creating a sense of safety, belonging, and connection.

    The role of touch in first dates

    Touch plays a significant role in the success of a first date. The amount and type of touch can indicate a person's comfort level and interest. However, it's essential to remember that a person's reaction to your touch is equally important. If the reaction is negative, it may be necessary to shift the conversation towards topics that focus on safety, security, and comfort. On the other hand, a positive reaction can open up opportunities to discuss more adventurous topics. Communication and setting expectations can also help create a safe and comfortable environment, especially when it comes to physical contact. Overall, touch is just one aspect of a successful first date, and understanding a person's reaction to it can provide valuable insights into the direction of the conversation.

    Using nonverbal communication and warmth to form strong connections

    Using nonverbal communication and acting warmly towards someone during the initial stages of a relationship can significantly improve the chances of forming a strong connection. This approach sets up a positive expectation and can lead to the Pygmalion effect, where people often end up living up to the expectations set for them. This method, whether through verbal communication or nonverbal cues, requires vulnerability and openness, which can be challenging for some individuals. This concept, although clunky, is an interesting way to apply the science of personality and increase liking towards others. However, it's important to remember that authenticity is key, and acting insincerely can be detrimental. This strategy can be particularly effective during blind dates or first meetings, as it helps create a comfortable and friendly atmosphere, making the interaction more enjoyable for both parties.

    Women with less skin showed higher ratings, men with more

    Contrary to popular belief, the hottest women on the "Hot or Not" website did not show more skin to receive higher ratings. Instead, they showed less skin, while the hottest men showed more. Another interesting finding was that sunglasses in profile pictures were a major turnoff, as they gave the impression of being impenetrable or unapproachable, while headphones were acceptable. The angle of the photo also mattered, with a straight-on shot being the most effective for conveying openness and approachability. These findings challenge common assumptions about what makes people attractive online and provide valuable insights for crafting effective profile pictures.

    How our poses impact how others perceive us

    The way we pose for photos can significantly impact how others perceive us. The angle of the camera, our facial expressions, and the context of the photo can all send different signals. For example, looking up at the camera can make us appear tall and charismatic, while looking down can make us seem vulnerable or submissive. Smiling also plays a role, with closed-mouth smiles being less effective than big, genuine smiles for most people. However, for women, a neutral face may be perceived negatively as "resting bitch face," so it's generally better to smile. Outdoor photos without sunglasses are also preferred, as they come across as more authentic. Ultimately, it's important to consider the signals we want to send and adjust our poses accordingly.

    People's reactions can shape our self-worth and identity

    People's reactions, whether positive or negative, to our appearance or perceived abilities can significantly impact our self-worth and identity. Compliments or criticisms, especially unexpected ones, can leave us feeling confused or offended. For instance, being told we're taller or shorter than assumed can evoke varying emotions, and the same goes for comments about our looks or personality. These interactions highlight the importance of understanding that our self-perception may not always align with others' perceptions, and it's crucial to remember that our worth is not defined by external validation. Moreover, the role of body language and nonverbal cues, such as hands in photos, can influence how people perceive us. For women, self-touch in photos might be seen as sexually appealing and indicative of future intimacy, while for men, it might not have the same statistical significance. Overall, it's essential to recognize the power of words and nonverbal cues in shaping our self-image and interactions with others. Lastly, the quality of interviews and conversations can significantly impact our learning and growth. Effective interviewers challenge our ideas and provide constructive feedback, allowing for a more meaningful exchange of thoughts and insights. In contrast, hosts who validate every response without offering any pushback or feedback might not provide much value and may not foster an engaging conversation.

    The Power of the Monroe Gaze in Attracting the Opposite Sex

    Body language plays a significant role in attracting the opposite sex, specifically the Monroe Gaze, which involves tilting the head back and exposing the chin and neck while looking up through the lashes, is a universal trait associated with high estrogen levels and signs of youth and fertility. This mirrors an orgasm face and reminds men of that, making it an effective seductive move. However, it's important to note that this should only be done naturally and not forced or inauthentic. Additionally, Amos Winbush III is releasing a book, "Captivate," on April 25th, which shares 14 science-backed human behavior hacks.

    Story of a hostage negotiation with cryptic notes

    Effective communication and quick thinking are crucial in high-pressure situations, such as hostage negotiations. Chris Voss, an FBI hostage negotiator, shared a story about a negotiation where he received cryptic notes from a barricaded suspect, leading him to communicate with the man and eventually bring him out safely. However, in the heat of the moment, they forgot to unlock the door for the suspect, causing confusion and potential danger. This incident highlights the importance of clear and concise communication, as well as being prepared for unexpected twists in negotiations. It also emphasizes the need for a calm and focused mindset, even in tense situations, to ensure the best possible outcome.

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    • Connect with Gabriel on Twitter at @GabeMizrahi and Instagram @gabrielmizrahi.

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    982: Israel vs. Iran | Out of the Loop

    982: Israel vs. Iran | Out of the Loop

    Should we worry that the complex dynamics between Israel and Iran might ignite WWIII? Intelligence analyst Ryan McBeth brings us in from Out of the Loop.

    Welcome to what we're calling our "Out of the Loop" episodes, where we dig a little deeper into fascinating current events that may only register as a blip on the media's news cycle and have conversations with the people who find themselves immersed in them.

    On This Episode of Out of the Loop:

    • Israel and Iran have been engaged in recent attacks on each other, with Israel striking Iranian officers in Syria, Iran launching drones at Israel, and Israel firing missiles back at Iran. However, neither side seems to want a wider conflict.
    • Iran's military is split between the regular Artesh forces and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC). The IRGC gets better equipment and training and has a Quds Force that specializes in unconventional warfare.
    • Iran and Israel both lack strong expeditionary capabilities to directly attack each other. Iran's navy is mostly small fast attack boats, while Israel has a defensive-oriented military.
    • Many ordinary Iranian citizens oppose their government and the Ayatollahs. The people should not be conflated with the regime. Iran has a large young population that is quite pro-Western.
    • Overall, a massive conventional war between Israel and Iran remains unlikely due to the geographic and military constraints on both sides, despite the harsh rhetoric. However, proxy conflicts and tit-for-tat strikes may continue.
    • And much more!

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    981: Bobby Gunn | The 73-0 Undefeated Bare-Knuckle Boxer

    981: Bobby Gunn | The 73-0 Undefeated Bare-Knuckle Boxer

    Grab a front-row seat to the gritty world of bare-knuckle boxing with undefeated champ Bobby Gunn and his 'Bare Knuckle' biographer Stayton Bonner here!

    What We Discuss with Bobby Gunn and Stayton Bonner:

    • The culture and traditions of — as well as the stereotypes, lifestyle choices, and challenges faced by — the traveler community in which Bobby was raised.
    • How Bobby started fighting drunks for money at the not-so-tender age of 11.
    • The rich history — and brutal realities — of bare-knuckle boxing.
    • How Bobby answered the call of the underground bare-knuckle boxing circuit and what the costs have been along the way.
    • The evolution of bare-knuckle boxing, and Bobby's indelible mark on the sport. 
    • And much more...

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