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    • Amazon's Success: Innovation and Process ImprovementAmazon's success lies in its focus on both product and process innovation, adopting practices like working backwards, one-way and two-way door decisions, single-threaded leaders, and memos over presentations.

      Amazon's success can be attributed not only to its innovative products, but also to its unique ways of working and emphasis on process innovation. While many companies focus solely on developing and launching new products, Amazon recognized the importance of creating effective processes and fostering a culture that supports them. This includes the practice of working backwards, where decisions are made by starting with what's best for the customer and then working backward to create solutions. Amazon also introduced concepts like one-way and two-way door decisions, single-threaded leaders, input and output metrics, and the use of memos over presentations. By prioritizing both product and process innovation, Amazon has been able to continually evolve and thrive in the market.

    • Managing Complexity: The Importance of Adaptability and Continuous ImprovementAmazon CEO Jeff Bezos understood the need for effective management in a growing organization and emphasized adaptability and continuous improvement. Managing individual metrics separately proved more effective than compound metrics.

      During a period of rapid growth and expansion, Amazon faced the challenge of becoming a complex organization. CEO Jeff Bezos, being a scientific and analytical thinker, approached this challenge with a systematic and experimental mindset. He understood the need for a method to effectively manage such a large company and implemented various ideas and hypotheses to improve processes and products. One of these experiments was the concept of a "fitness function" where multiple metrics were combined into one index. However, over time, it became clear that this compound metric was not effective and actually obscured the understanding of what actions led to desired outcomes. As a result, Amazon now emphasizes managing individual metrics separately rather than creating compound metrics. This insight highlights the importance of adaptability and continuous improvement in managing complex organizations.

    • Embracing a single threaded leadership approach for enhanced ownership and agility.Implementing a single threaded leadership approach empowers teams to prioritize goals, make independent decisions, and take accountability, leading to increased efficiency and strategic focus for senior management.

      Adopting a single threaded leadership approach can lead to increased ownership, speed, and agility within a company. This concept emerged from the need to navigate complexity and competition for limited resources in large organizations like Amazon. Instead of relying on intense, centralized collaboration, teams are empowered with a single leader who has direct or dedicated cross-functional resources. This shift from a project-based orientation to a program-based orientation allows teams to focus on specific goals, continuously improve, and make independent decisions on what to prioritize. By reducing time wasted on bureaucratic processes and flawed assumptions, teams can efficiently utilize their resources and take full accountability for their successes or failures. This approach also relieves senior management from constantly overseeing every aspect of the product roadmap, allowing them to focus on strategic decisions.

    • The benefits of adopting a single-threaded leader approach in organizationsAssigning a dedicated leader and team to a specific project or goal can increase productivity and foster faster progress, while maintaining clear ownership and accountability.

      Adopting a single-threaded leader approach can help organizations overcome resource contention issues and increase productivity. This approach involves assigning a dedicated leader and team responsible and accountable for a specific project or goal. By allowing teams to own their code and work with well-defined endpoints and APIs, the organization can move towards a service-based architecture and foster faster progress. However, it's crucial to create countermeasures to ensure functional excellence within these single-threaded teams. While this approach may differ from the decision by committee model, it still involves an intense review process to gain alignment with senior leadership. Ultimately, the single-threaded leader approach enables teams to sprint ahead while maintaining clear ownership and accountability, unlike a highly cross-functional approach.

    • Breaking teams down and implementing clear ownership leads to success.By creating dedicated teams for specific platforms and implementing functional countermeasures, such as C-level leaders setting standards, organizations can foster focused development and clear accountability, leading to success.

      Breaking teams down into single-threaded units with clear ownership can lead to success. Bill Carr discussed how they created dedicated teams for specific platforms, such as TV sets, game consoles, and mobile phones. This approach allowed for focused development and clear accountability. Another key factor in shifting to this model is implementing functional countermeasures. For example, in the case of engineering, they had a C-level leader who set standards for code reviews, interviews, promotions, and requirements. Additionally, individuals in leadership positions had additional responsibilities, such as serving on promotion panels or conducting code reviews for other teams. Another important principle at Amazon is "disagree and commit," which requires having backbone and then committing to a decision even if there was initial disagreement. However, this principle is often misunderstood and challenging to implement.

    • The Importance of Disagreeing and Considering Alternative Perspectives in Decision-MakingEffective decision-making involves actively seeking diverse viewpoints and considering all factors before making a commitment, rather than blindly agreeing without genuine understanding or conviction.

      It is crucial to voice your disagreement and provide new perspectives when making important decisions within a team or organization. The purpose of disagreeing is to offer additional information and alternative points of view that may not have been considered. Good decision-making involves understanding all different perspectives and soliciting various points of view, just like a king consulting their court. However, it is important for leaders to listen and understand their team members' disagreements and reasoning, and only continue with their decision after considering all factors. Commitment should be based on a genuine understanding and acceptance of the decision, rather than blindly agreeing without true conviction.

    • Embrace Others' Ideas and Drive InnovationSuccessful career growth requires open-mindedness, sound judgment, and customer-centricity for expanding on ideas, making informed decisions, and innovating new products.

      In order to succeed in your career and drive innovation, you need to focus on the core ideas and concepts presented by others, even if you don't fully agree with them. This involves taking that kernel of an idea and expanding upon it, exploring how it can be made viable and implemented in a business context. Additionally, leaders are not expected to be right all the time, but they should strive to be right a lot. This requires sound judgment and the ability to interpret data and weigh different factors when making decisions. Lastly, the concept of working backwards involves starting with the customer's needs and developing solutions from there, as well as utilizing processes like the Working Backwards PR/FAQ process for new product innovation.

    • Amazon's Customer-Centric Decision-Making ApproachBy prioritizing and serving customers well, businesses can naturally achieve important metrics like sales and revenue. By starting with the customer and focusing on their needs, companies can deliver better customer benefits and lower prices.

      Amazon's approach to decision-making is rooted in working backwards from the customer's needs and problems. They believe that by prioritizing and serving customers well, other important business metrics such as sales, revenue, and active customers will naturally follow. This customer-centric approach requires starting with the customer and then figuring out the solutions without being constrained by financial, resource, or other limitations. It also involves the belief that a low cost structure allows for lower prices and better customer benefits. When implementing this approach, companies can focus on understanding and addressing the lasting problems customers will always have, and use tactics like PR/FAQs, which involve thinking through the customer impact of a decision before it is made. Ultimately, the key is to prioritize what is best for the customer and come backward from there in the decision-making process.

    • The value of the PR/FAQ process in product developmentThe PR/FAQ process helps companies make informed decisions about product development by defining the customer, their problem, and the proposed solution, through iterative reviews and clear communication.

      The PR/FAQ process is a valuable tool for product development. This process involves writing a press release that describes the new product or feature in a way that resonates with customers and the external press. By carefully defining the customer, their problem, and the proposed solution, companies can make informed decisions about what to build and prioritize. However, it's important to note that the press release is not intended for public distribution but rather serves as an internal document. The process also involves an iterative review, starting small and gradually involving more stakeholders to strengthen and improve the idea. Additionally, it's crucial to focus on concise and clear communication rather than using language suited for actual press releases.

    • Importance of Timing and Factual Content in Press ReleasesUse the date effectively to convey the launch timing, maintain a factual approach with data-rich content, and prioritize impactful ideas to allocate precious resources.

      When writing a press release, the date serves as an important indicator of the envisioned timing for launching a product or service. It gives readers a sense of whether it's a simple and easy launch planned for the near future or a complex one that may take longer to materialize. While there are tools and templates available, it's crucial to avoid hyperbole and maintain a factual approach with data-rich content. However, not every press release written will make its way to the CEO or receive buy-in from higher-ups. The goal is to create a product funnel rather than a tunnel, where multiple ideas are considered and compared before allocating precious resources. Just like venture capitalists, it's essential to fund only the most promising and impactful ideas.

    • Preventing "stupid shit" and focusing on well-thought-out ideas: The importance of evaluating concepts, establishing ownership, and using metrics effectively.Companies should have a process in place to evaluate and document ideas, assign ownership, and use metrics effectively to prevent wasted time and resources and drive results.

      Companies should have a process in place to prevent "stupid shit" from happening and focus on well-thought-out ideas. This involves breaking the product development process into two parts: deciding what to build and then efficiently and effectively shipping it. One common problem in companies is the "big idea that's not fleshed out," where concepts are discussed without being properly evaluated or documented. This can lead to wasted time and resources. To avoid this, companies should establish good methods for evaluating ideas and assigning ownership. Additionally, companies should consider input and output metrics, which help measure the effectiveness of their decisions and actions. It's important to think about metrics in the right way and use them to drive results.

    • Shifting from short-term tactics to long-term customer satisfactionBy prioritizing customer satisfaction and focusing on key inputs such as selection, customer experience, price, and delivery, companies can secure customer loyalty and achieve long-term success.

      When faced with a revenue target that may not be met, many companies resort to last-minute promotional tactics or price reductions. However, Amazon realized that these fire drills were not only ineffective in achieving meaningful progress, but also distracting and potentially cannibalizing future revenue. Instead, they shifted their focus to long-term thinking and identified key inputs for customer satisfaction, such as broad selection, great customer experiences, low prices, and fast delivery. By measuring and improving these inputs, they believed they could secure customer loyalty and win in the market. This shift in mindset allowed them to move away from short-term revenue goals and focus on the factors that truly mattered to customers.

    • The Importance of Input Metrics in Driving Amazon's SuccessBy focusing on and continuously improving input metrics that directly impact the customer experience, businesses can optimize their outputs and drive success.

      Amazon's success lies in its focus on input metrics. These input metrics are the factors that drive the outputs, such as revenue, customer activity, and free cash flow. Amazon continuously improves and measures these inputs, such as low prices, selection, and speed of the customer experience. The concept of input metrics can be applied to any business by mapping the end-to-end customer experience and measuring the speed, quality, and ease of each step. It's important to identify metrics that directly impact the customer experience and have the ability to be controlled and improved. Through a process of defining, measuring, analyzing, improving, and controlling these input metrics, businesses can optimize their outputs and drive success.

    • Pitfalls of Amazon's Decision-Making ToolsAmazon's decision-making tools can assist in the process, but they are not foolproof. The failure of the Fire Phone highlights the need to focus on solving meaningful customer problems instead of prioritizing technology solutions.

      Amazon's tools for decision-making, such as documents and meetings, the PRFAQ process, and input metrics, are not foolproof solutions. They are meant to assist in decision-making, but they do not guarantee success. The failure of the Fire Phone is a prime example of how a product can go wrong. The mistake was in focusing on a technology solution (3D effects) without a clear customer problem to solve. It did not solve any meaningful problems for customers and did not enhance their media experience. When a product fails, it is important to question the problem it aimed to solve and whether it was a concept flaw rather than poor execution. Amazon is not afraid of failure, and while it leads to innovation, it doesn't guarantee success either.

    • Embracing Failure and Encouraging InnovationSuccessful companies create a culture that supports failure and innovation by restructuring compensation systems, implementing performance management, and having a committed CEO.

      Successful companies need to create a culture that embraces failure and encourages innovation. Many companies claim to be open to failure, but in practice, they penalize employees for unsuccessful projects. At Amazon, they tackled this issue by restructuring their compensation system. There were no performance bonuses tied to short-term financial goals, but rather, compensation was based on the stock price, incentivizing employees to focus on long-term success. Additionally, they implemented a performance management system that evaluated the actual contributions and improvements made by individuals, rather than solely looking at overall business performance. This allowed employees to take calculated risks without fear of career setbacks. Moreover, having a committed CEO who actively engaged with innovative teams and supported their efforts was crucial for overcoming internal barriers and promoting innovation.

    • The Bar Raiser: Ensuring Hiring Success and Company ScalabilityImplementing a Bar Raiser hiring process helps maintain company culture, standards, and ensure only qualified candidates are hired.

      Implementing a Bar Raiser hiring process can greatly contribute to the success and scalability of a company. This process, pioneered by Amazon, aims to address the challenge of new hires hiring more people without truly understanding the company's culture and standards. The Bar Raiser is an individual, not the hiring manager or recruiter, who participates in the interview process and runs the debrief meeting. Importantly, they have veto power over the hiring manager, although a good Bar Raiser rarely exercises this power. By using objective criteria based on the company's leadership principles and employing behavioral-based interviewing, the Bar Raiser ensures that hiring decisions are aligned with the company's standards and culture. This process helps mitigate urgency bias and ensures that only candidates who meet the company's high standards and cultural fit are hired.

    • The Role of the Bar Raiser in the Hiring ProcessHiring managers should view Bar Raisers as valuable helpers rather than obstacles, as they can provide valuable insight through a Socratic method. Selecting individuals who care about the hiring process and have high standards is crucial.

      The final decision in hiring lies with the hiring manager, not the Bar Raiser. The Bar Raiser and the interview loop exist to support the hiring manager in making the right decision. It's important for hiring managers to change their mindset and see these individuals as valuable helpers rather than bureaucratic obstacles. While the hiring process may seem time-consuming, making the right decision is crucial because managing the wrong hire can be even more time-consuming and detrimental to the team. The Bar Raiser can provide invaluable insight through a Socratic method and guide the discussion, but ultimately, it's the hiring manager's decision. When selecting a Bar Raiser, it's recommended to choose individuals who care about the hiring process, are good interviewers, and have high standards. Starting with a pilot within one department can be beneficial. To implement Amazonian practices, it's not about becoming Amazon, but rather adopting scalable and repeatable processes that suit your organization. Achieving buy-in from the CEO is often necessary for profound changes in processes like hiring or product development.

    • Achieving Successful Implementation of New Processes with Commitment and DisciplineImplementing scalable and durable processes requires commitment, proper planning, and a hands-on approach. Bill Carr and his partner assist companies in navigating these challenges to ensure desired outcomes.

      Implementing new processes in a company is not easy, but it can be achieved with commitment and discipline. Bill Carr emphasizes the need for companies to have a certain scale and complexity before implementing scalable and durable processes. He and his partner work as advisors and consultants, directly helping companies navigate the challenges of implementing these processes. They conduct assessments, prioritize solutions, and create personalized plans for implementation. What sets them apart is their hands-on approach, working closely with teams to ensure proper implementation and desired outcomes. If interested in their services, individuals can engage by contacting them through their website or via email. Ultimately, successful implementation requires commitment, proper planning, and a willingness to learn and adapt.

    • Insights into Innovation and Challenges in Tech Company and the Convenience of Amazon PrimeSteve Jobs' biography offers insights on a tech company's growth, while the mention of favorite movies shows Amazon Prime's entertainment options. Additionally, a favorite product highlights diverse offerings and past achievements emphasize the importance of clear actions.

      The biography of Steve Jobs offers valuable insights into the inner workings of a tech company experiencing product innovation and significant growth, similar to what can be seen at Amazon. It provides a window into the dynamics and challenges faced by such organizations. Additionally, the discussion of favorite movies and TV shows highlights the convenience of accessing a range of entertainment options through Amazon Prime. Furthermore, the mention of a favorite product, the Zipp 303 Firecrest wheels, showcases the diverse range of items available on Amazon and the platform's potential for meeting specific needs and interests. Lastly, the interview question about significant professional accomplishments underscores the importance of understanding candidates' past achievements and their ability to navigate challenges. Finally, the life motto "slow is smooth and smooth is fast" reminds us of the value in taking deliberate and clear actions, rather than rushing without direction.

    • The Value of Going Slow and Thinking Through ActionsTaking the time to plan and strategize effectively before taking action leads to faster and smoother progress in achieving our goals. Patience and thoughtful preparation are key to personal growth and development.

      Going slow in the planning and development process can actually result in faster and smoother progress towards achieving our goals. This idea is supported by Bill Carr's observation that many people rush to move forward without clarifying their destination or thinking through their actions. The concept of "slow is smooth, smooth is fast" emphasizes the importance of taking the time to plan and strategize effectively before taking action. This lesson of patience and thoughtful preparation is something that Bill Carr learned during his time at Amazon, highlighting its significance in personal growth and development. Despite the lack of secret tips or tricks for using Amazon, the platform's customer-centric design reflects the value of providing a seamless experience. Furthermore, Bill Carr's call for feedback reminds us that continuous improvement and learning from customers is always essential.

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    What most people miss about marketing | Rory Sutherland (Vice Chairman of Ogilvy UK, author)

    What most people miss about marketing | Rory Sutherland (Vice Chairman of Ogilvy UK, author)

    Rory Sutherland is widely regarded as one of the most influential (and most entertaining) thinkers in marketing and behavioral science. He’s the vice chairman of Ogilvy UK, the author of Alchemy: The Dark Art and Curious Science of Creating Magic in Brands, Business, and Life, and the founder of Nudgestock, the world’s biggest festival of behavioral science and creativity. He champions thinking from first principles and using human psychology—what he calls “thinking psycho-logically”—over mere logic. In our conversation, we cover:

    • Why good products don’t always succeed, and bad ones don’t necessarily fail

    • Why less functionality can sometimes be more valuable

    • The importance of fame in building successful brands

    • The importance of timing in product success

    • The concept of “most advanced, yet acceptable”

    • Why metrics-driven workplaces can be demotivating

    • Lots of real-world case studies

    • Much more

    Note: We encountered some technical difficulties that led to less than ideal video quality for this episode, but the lessons from this conversation made it impossible for me to not publish it anyway. Thanks for your understanding and for bearing with the less-than-ideal video quality. 

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    Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/what-most-people-miss-about-marketing

    Where to find Rory Sutherland:

    • X: https://x.com/rorysutherland

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rorysutherland

    • Book: Alchemy: The Dark Art and Curious Science of Creating Magic in Brands, Business, and Life: https://www.amazon.com/Alchemy-Curious-Science-Creating-Business/dp/006238841X

    Where to find Lenny:

    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Rory’s background

    (02:37) The success and failure of products

    (04:08) Why the urge to appear serious can be a disaster in marketing

    (08:05) The role of distinctiveness in product design

    (12:29) The MAYA principle

    (15:50) How thinking irrationally can be advantageous

    (17:40) The fault of multiple-choice tests

    (21:31) Companies that have successfully implemented out-of-the-box thinking

    (30:31) “Psycho-logical” thinking

    (31:45) The hare and the dog metaphor

    (38:51) Marketing’s crucial role in product adoption

    (49:21) The quirks of Google Glass

    (55:44) Survivorship bias

    (56:09) Balancing rational ideas with irrational ideas

    (01:06:19) The rise and fall of tech innovations

    (01:09:54) Consistency, distinctiveness, and clarity

    (01:21:12) Considering psychological, technological, and economic factors in parallel

    (01:23:35) Where to find Rory

    Referenced:

    • Google Glass: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Glass

    • Meta Portal TV: https://www.meta.com/portal/products/portal-tv/

    • Rory’s quote in a LinkedIn post: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/brad-jackson-04766642_the-urge-to-appear-serious-is-a-disaster-activity-7093497742710210560-1LYN/

    • The MAYA Principle: Design for the Future, but Balance It with Your Users’ Present: https://www.interaction-design.org/literature/article/design-for-the-future-but-balance-it-with-your-users-present

    • Ogilvy: https://www.ogilvy.com/

    • MCI: https://www.mci.world/

    • Veuve Clicquot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veuve_Clicquot

    • Why do the French call the British ‘the roast beefs’?: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/2913151.stm

    The Killing on Hulu: https://www.hulu.com/series/the-killing-f5da5c2d-4626-4ba9-bcf3-ff5f891771fb

    • Original The Killing on BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b017h7m1

    • The Mandarin Oriental, Hong Kong: https://www.mandarinoriental.com/en/hong-kong/victoria-harbour

    • SAT: https://satsuite.collegeboard.org/sat

    • The Widening Racial Scoring Gap on the SAT College Admissions Test: https://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html

    • What is the age of the captain?: https://www.icopilots.com/what-is-the-age-of-the-captain/

    • Octopus Energy: https://octopus.energy/

    • Kraken: https://octopusenergy.group/kraken-technologies

    • Toby Shannan: https://theorg.com/org/shopify/org-chart/toby-shannan

    • Dunbar’s number: Why we can only maintain 150 relationships: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20191001-dunbars-number-why-we-can-only-maintain-150-relationships

    • AO: https://ao.com/

    • Zappos: https://www.zappos.com/

    • Joe Cano on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joeycano/

    • John Ralston Saul’s website: https://www.johnralstonsaul.com/

    Voltaire’s Bastards: The Dictatorship of Reason in the West: https://www.amazon.com/Voltaires-Bastards-Dictatorship-Reason-West/dp/0679748199

    • Psycho-Logic: Why Too Much Logic Deters Magic: https://coffeeandjunk.com/psycho-logic/

    • Herbert Simon’s Decision-Making Approach: https://bura.brunel.ac.uk/bitstream/2438/4995/1/Fulltext.pdf

    • Robert Trivers’s website: https://roberttrivers.com/Welcome.html

    • Crazy Ivan: https://jollycontrarian.com/index.php?title=Crazy_Ivan

    • The Joys of Being a Late Tech Adopter: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/28/technology/personaltech/joys-late-tech-adopter.html

    • Jean-Claude Van Damme: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Claude_Van_Damme

    • Tim Berners-Lee: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee

    • Edward Jenner and the history of smallpox and vaccination: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1200696/

    • The real story behind penicillin: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/the-real-story-behind-the-worlds-first-antibiotic

    • What Are Japanese Toilets?: https://www.bigbathroomshop.co.uk/info/blog/japanese-toilets/

    • reMarkable: https://remarkable.com/

    • Chumby: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chumby

    • Survivorship bias: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias

    • Jony Ive: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jony_Ive

    • Marc Newson’s website: https://marc-newson.com/

    • Designing Men: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/business/2013/11/jony-ive-marc-newson-design-auction

    • Qantas A330: https://marc-newson.com/qantas-a330/

    • Herodotus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herodotus

    • Big Decision? Consider It Both Drunk and Sober: https://www.forbes.com/sites/chunkamui/2016/03/22/wine-and-sleep-make-for-better-decisions/?sh=5c97fdc524b1

    • How Henry Ford and Thomas Edison killed the electric car: https://www.speakev.com/threads/how-henry-ford-and-thomas-edison-killed-the-electric-car.4270/

    • Watch Jay Leno get nostalgic and swoon over this 1909 EV: https://thenextweb.com/news/jay-leno-talk-about-electric-car-1909-baker

    Jay Leno’s Garage: https://www.youtube.com/@jaylenosgarage

    • Nudgestock: https://nudgestock.com/

    • Akio Morita: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akio_Morita

    • Don Norman on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donnorman/

    • What Makes Tesla’s Business Model Different: https://www.investopedia.com/articles/active-trading/072115/what-makes-teslas-business-model-different.asp

    • Monica Lewinsky on X: https://x.com/MonicaLewinsky

    Blindsight: The (Mostly) Hidden Ways Marketing Reshapes Our Brains: azon.com/Blindsight-Mostly-Hidden-Marketing-Reshapes-ebook/dp/B07ZKZ5DWF

    Branding That Means Business: https://www.amazon.com/Branding-that-Means-Business-Economist-ebook/dp/B09QBCCH9N

    • PwC: https://www.pwc.com

    • Ryanair: https://www.ryanair.com

    • British Airways: https://www.britishairways.com/

    • Wrigley’s began as a soap business: know when to pivot: https://theamericangenius.com/entrepreneur/wrigleys-began-as-soap-know-when-to-pivot/

    Transport for Humans: https://www.amazon.com/Transport-Humans-Perspectives-Pete-Dyson/dp/1913019357

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    Building a world-class data org | Jessica Lachs (VP of Analytics and Data Science at DoorDash)

    Building a world-class data org | Jessica Lachs (VP of Analytics and Data Science at DoorDash)

    Jessica Lachs is the global head of analytics and data science at DoorDash, where she’s built one of the largest and most respected data organizations in tech. In her more than 10 years at DoorDash, she has served as the first general manager, responsible for launching new markets; the head of business ops and analytics; and the VP of analytics and data science. Previously, Jessica founded GiftSimple, a social gifting startup, and started her career at Lehman Brothers as an investment banking analyst. In our conversation, she shares:

    • How to structure and scale a high-impact analytics organization

    • Centralized vs. decentralized data teams

    • How to pick the right metric and aligning incentives

    • Advice for data people on how and when to push back

    • Lessons learned from building a global data team

    • How to foster a culture of extreme ownership

    • The role of AI in improving analytics team productivity

    • Advice for aspiring data leaders without formal training

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    Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/building-a-world-class-data-org-jessica-lachs

    Where to find Jessica Lachs:

    • X: https://x.com/jesslachs

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessica-lachs/

    Where to find Lenny:

    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Jessica’s background

    (04:59) Centralized vs. embedded analytics teams

    (10:52) The benefits of a centralized analytics team

    (15:10) Balancing proactive and reactive work

    (20:45) Advice on how to push back effectively

    (24:20) Hiring for curiosity and problem solving

    (28:57) Coming from a non-traditional background

    (34:40) The early days and culture at DoorDash

    (40:39) Encouraging cross-functional roles

    (44:39) Defining effective metrics

    (46:30) Simplifying metrics for better outcomes

    (55:28) Focusing on edge cases and fail states

    (01:00:12) Managing a global data organization

    (01:02:31) Leveraging AI for productivity

    (01:05:25) Building diverse and skilled data teams

    (01:08:40) Lightning round

    Referenced:

    • How Netflix builds a culture of excellence | Elizabeth Stone (CTO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-netflix-builds-a-culture-of-excellence

    • Riley Newman on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rileynewman/

    • Tony Xu on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xutony/

    • Imposter Syndrome: Why You May Feel Like a Fraud: https://www.verywellmind.com/imposter-syndrome-and-social-anxiety-disorder-4156469

    • Stanley Tang on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stanleytang/

    • Andy Fang on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fangsterr/

    • Evan Moore on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanmoore/

    • How WeDash became the flagship employee program for DoorDash: https://careers.doordash.com/blog/wedash-doordash-employee-program-how-does-it-work

    • Leading with empathy | Keith Yandell (DoorDash, Uber): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/leading-with-empathy-keith-yandell

    The Rose Code: https://www.amazon.com/Rose-Code-Novel-Kate-Quinn/dp/006305941X

    • Libby app: https://libbyapp.com/

    The West Wing on Prime: https://www.amazon.com/West-Wing-Complete-First-Season/dp/B000KZPG04

    Alias on Prime: https://www.amazon.com/Alias-Season-1/dp/B00748O13S

    • Joseon sunscreens: https://beautyofjoseon.com/

    • Innisfree sunscreens: https://us.innisfree.com/

    • John Steinbeck quote: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/john_steinbeck_103825

    • Vanessa Roberts on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vanessa-roberts-b8a509a/

    • Tia Sherringham on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tiasherringham/

    • Elizabeth Jarvis-Shean on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-jarvis-shean-141a7966/

    • My Journey (Part 1): I have a job that I would never be hired for: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/jessica-lachs_anniversary-datascience-finance-activity-7216912300056727553-mEv6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

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    Building product at Stripe: craft, metrics, and customer obsession | Jeff Weinstein (Product lead)

    Building product at Stripe: craft, metrics, and customer obsession | Jeff Weinstein (Product lead)

    Jeff Weinstein is a product lead at Stripe, where he helped grow their payment APIs to hundreds of billions in volume and transformed the way founders start companies into a few simple clicks with Atlas. Prior to Stripe, Jeff led several startups and sold companies to Groupon and Box. He’s known for his customer obsession, craft, quality, and building beloved products businesses rely on. In our conversation, we discuss:

    • The power of customer obsession and how to operationalize it in the product development process

    • How to pick the right metrics and use them to drive impact

    • Techniques for getting things done at big companies

    • A group practice Jeff started to uplevel product craft, called Study Group

    • The story behind Stripe Atlas and its mission to increase entrepreneurship globally

    • Lessons from working with the founders of Stripe

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    Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/creating-a-culture-of-excellence

    Where to find Jeff Weinstein:

    • X: https://x.com/jeff_weinstein

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffwweinstein/

    • Email: jweinstein@gmail.com

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    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Jeff’s background 

    (10:16)  The “go, go, go ASAP + optimistic, long-term compounding” approach

    (15:38) The importance of craft and quality

    (24:15) Effective customer communication strategies

    (28:57) The importance of speed in customer interactions 

    (33:19) Narrowing your focus

    (36:53) Why you should pay attention only to paying-customer feedback

    (40:24) Practicing silence when communicating 

    (45:33) The role of metrics in product success

    (54:08) Empowering teams with a single metric

    (58:23) Picking the right metric for your audience

    (01:05:10) The importance of metric hygiene

    (01:11:33) How Stripe uses “study groups” for product improvement

    (01:37:20) Stripe’s Atlas: simplifying company formation

    (01:50:38) Automation and operational efficiency

    (01:55:13) Diversity and team building

    (02:03:09) Building new products within a large company

    (02:21:10) Lightning round

    Referenced:

    • Atlas: https://stripe.com/atlas

    • Stripe: https://stripe.com/

    • SQL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL

    • GitHub: https://github.com/

    • Linear: https://linear.app/

    • Figma: https://www.figma.com/

    • Jeff’s tweet about Stripe’s bug-finder program: https://x.com/jeff_weinstein/status/1777487507934040300

    • The “Collison installation”: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18400504

    • How we use friction logs to improve products at Stripe: https://dev.to/stripe/how-we-use-friction-logs-to-improve-products-at-stripe-i6p

    • Fidelity: https://www.fidelity.com/

    • 83(b) election: https://docs.stripe.com/atlas/83b-election

    • Jeff’s tweet about Atlas’s NPS score: https://x.com/jeff_weinstein/status/1788644576330469638

    • What is a Delaware corporation? Here’s what makes this state so attractive to businesses: https://stripe.com/resources/more/what-is-a-delaware-corporation

    • Incorporating in Delaware explained: Why it’s such a popular option for businesses: https://stripe.com/resources/more/incorporating-in-delaware-explained

    • 7 of Pixar’s Best Storyboard Examples and the Stories Behind Them: https://boords.com/blog/7-of-pixars-best-storyboard-examples-and-the-stories-behind-them

    • Alex Kehayias on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexkehayias/

    • Patrick McKenzie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmckenzie/

    • AngelList: https://www.angellist.com/

    • Dan Hightower on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danhighto/

    • Stripe Atlas perks partners: https://support.stripe.com/questions/stripe-atlas-perks-partners

    • Vision, conviction, and hype: How to build 0 to 1 inside a company | Mihika Kapoor (Product at Figma): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/vision-conviction-hype-mihika-kapoor

    High Output Management: https://www.amazon.com/High-Output-Management-Andrew-Grove/dp/0679762884

    Orbiting the Giant Hairball: A Corporate Fool’s Guide to Surviving with Grace: https://www.amazon.com/Orbiting-Giant-Hairball-Corporate-Surviving/dp/0670879835

    7 Powers: The Foundations of Business Strategy: https://www.amazon.com/7-Powers-Foundations-Business-Strategy/dp/0998116319

    • Business strategy with Hamilton Helmer (author of 7 Powers): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/business-strategy-with-hamilton-helmer

    • Box: https://www.box.com/

    • Patrick Collison on X: https://x.com/patrickc

    How to with John Wilson on HBO: https://www.hbo.com/how-to-with-john-wilson

    The Quiet Girl on Hulu: https://www.hulu.com/movie/the-quiet-girl-b50a4b8e-d3ff-4635-b806-5e7dbd292ca4

    • Raycast: https://www.raycast.com/

    • Quicksilver: https://qsapp.com/

    • Alfred: https://www.alfredapp.com/help/workflows/automations/

    • CleanShot: https://cleanshot.com/

    • John Collison on X: https://x.com/collision

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    Pattern Breakers: How to find a breakthrough startup idea | Mike Maples, Jr. (Founding Partner at Floodgate, ex-Product at Silicon Graphics)

    Pattern Breakers: How to find a breakthrough startup idea | Mike Maples, Jr. (Founding Partner at Floodgate, ex-Product at Silicon Graphics)

    Mike Maples, Jr. is a legendary early-stage startup investor and a co-founder and partner at Floodgate. He’s made early bets on transformative companies like Twitter, Lyft, Twitch, Okta, Rappi, and Applied Intuition and is one of the pioneers of seed-stage investing as a category. He’s been on the Forbes Midas List eight times and enjoys sharing the lessons he’s learned from his years studying iconic companies. In his new book, Pattern Breakers: Why Some Start-Ups Change the Future, co-authored with Peter Ziebelman, he discusses what he’s found separates startups and founders that break through and change the world from those that don’t. After spending years reviewing the notes and decks from the thousands of startups he’s known over the past two decades, he’s uncovered three ways that breakthrough founders think and act differently. In our conversation, Mike talks about:

    • The three elements of breakthrough startup ideas

    • Why you need to both think and act differently

    • How to avoid the “comparison trap” and “conformity trap”

    • The importance of movements, storytelling, and healthy disagreeableness in startup success

    • How to apply pattern-breaking principles within large companies

    • Mike’s one piece of advice for founders

    • Much more

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    Where to find Mike Maples, Jr.:

    • X: https://x.com/m2jr

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maples/

    • Substack: https://greatness.substack.com/

    • Website: https://www.floodgate.com/

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    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Mike’s background

    (03:10) The inspiration behind Pattern Breakers

    (08:09) Uncovering startup insights

    (11:37) A quick summary of Pattern Breakers

    (13:52) Coming up with an idea

    (15:30) Inflections

    (17:09) Examples of inflections

    (28:10) Insights

    (36:58) The power of surprises

    (47:36) Founder-future fit

    (55:33) Advice for aspiring founders

    (56:41) Living in the future: valid opinions

    (55:34) Case study: Maddie Hall and Living Carbon

    (58:40) Identifying lighthouse customers

    (01:00:53) The importance of desperation in customer needs

    (01:03:57) Creating movements and storytelling

    (01:24:22) The role of disagreeableness in startups

    (01:34:42) Applying these principles within a company

    (01:40:43) Lightning round

    Referenced:

    Pattern Breakers: Why Some Start-Ups Change the Future: https://www.amazon.com/Pattern-Breakers-Start-Ups-Change-Future/dp/1541704355

    • Justin.tv: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin.tv

    • Airbnb’s CEO says a $40 cereal box changed the course of the multibillion-dollar company: https://fortune.com/2023/04/19/airbnb-ceo-cereal-box-investors-changed-everything-billion-dollar-company/

    • Brian Chesky’s new playbook: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/brian-cheskys-contrarian-approach

    • The Unconventional Exit: How Justin Kan Sold His First Startup on eBay: https://medium.datadriveninvestor.com/the-unconventional-exit-how-justin-kan-sold-his-first-startup-on-ebay-4d705afe1354

    • Kyle Vogt on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kylevogt/

    • The State of Telehealth Before and After the COVID-19 Pandemic: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9035352/

    • The Craigslist Killers: https://www.gq.com/story/craigslist-killers

    • The social radar: Y Combinator’s secret weapon | Jessica Livingston (co-founder of Y Combinator, author, podcast host): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-social-radar-jessica-livingston

    • Michael Seibel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mwseibel/

    The Airbnb Story: How Three Ordinary Guys Disrupted an Industry, Made Billions ... and Created Plenty of Controversy: https://www.amazon.com/Airbnb-Story-Ordinary-Disrupted-Controversy/dp/0544952669

    • Scott Cook: https://www.forbes.com/profile/scott-cook/

    • Chegg: https://www.chegg.com/

    • Aayush Phumbhra on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aayush/

    • Osman Rashid on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/osmanrashid/

    • Okta: https://www.okta.com/

    • The Man Who Makes the Future: Wired Icon Marc Andreessen: https://www.wired.com/2012/04/ff-andreessen/

    • Peter Ludwig on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peterwludwig/

    • Qasar Younis on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/qasar/

    • Paul Allen’s website: https://paulallen.com/

    • Louis Pasteur quote: https://www.forbes.com/quotes/6145/

    • What was Atrium and why did it fail? https://www.failory.com/cemetery/atrium

    • Patrick Collison on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickcollison/

    • Drew Houston on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drewhouston/

    • William Gibson’s quote: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/681-the-future-is-already-here-it-s-just-not-evenly

    • Maddie Hall on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maddie-hall-76293135/

    • Living Carbon: https://www.livingcarbon.com

    • Zenefits (now Trinet): https://connect.trinet.com/

    • Sam Altman on X: https://x.com/sama

    • Steve Wozniak on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wozniaksteve/

    • Horsley Bridge Partners: https://www.horsleybridge.com/

    • David Swensen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_F._Swensen

    • Judith Elsea on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/judithelsea/

    7 Powers: The Foundations of Business Strategy: https://www.amazon.com/7-Powers-Foundations-Business-Strategy/dp/0998116319

    • Business strategy with Hamilton Helmer (author of 7 Powers): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/business-strategy-with-hamilton-helmer

    • Lyft’s Focus on Community and the Story Behind the Pink Mustache: https://techcrunch.com/2012/09/17/lyfts-focus-on-community-and-the-story-behind-the-pink-mustache/

    • Logan Green on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/logangreen/

    • John Zimmer on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnzimmer11/

    • Storytelling with Nancy Duarte: How to craft compelling presentations and tell a story that sticks: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/storytelling-with-nancy-duarte-how

    • Steve Jobs Introducing the iPhone at MacWorld 2007: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7qPAY9JqE4

    Jonathan Livingston Seagull: https://www.amazon.com/Jonathan-Livingston-Seagull-Richard-Bach/dp/0743278909

    • The paths to power: How to grow your influence and advance your career | Jeffrey Pfeffer (author of 7 Rules of Power, professor at Stanford GSB): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-paths-to-power-jeffrey-pfeffer

    • Robin Roberts on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robin-roberts-393a934b/

    • Skunkworks: https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/who-we-are/business-areas/aeronautics/skunkworks.html

    • Vision, conviction, and hype: How to build 0 to 1 inside a company | Mihika Kapoor (Product at Figma): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/vision-conviction-hype-mihika-kapoor

    • Hard-won lessons building 0 to 1 inside Atlassian | Tanguy Crusson (Head of Jira Product Discovery): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/building-0-to-1-inside-atlassian-tanguy-crusson

    • Figma: https://www.figma.com/

    • Atlassian: https://www.atlassian.com/

    • Vinod Khosla: https://www.khoslaventures.com/team/vinod-khosla/

    • Top Five Regrets of the Dying: A Life Transformed by the Dearly Departing: https://www.amazon.com/Top-Five-Regrets-Dying-Transformed-ebook/dp/B07KNRLY1L

    Chase, Chance, and Creativity: The Lucky Art of Novelty: https://www.amazon.com/Chase-Chance-Creativity-Lucky-Novelty/dp/0262511355

    • Clay Christensen’s books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Clayton-M.-Christensen/author/B000APPD3Y

    Resonate: Present Visual Stories That Transform: https://www.amazon.com/Resonate-Present-Stories-Transform-Audiences/dp/0470632011

    Ferrari on Prime: https://www.amazon.com/Ferrari-Adam-Driver/dp/B0CNDBN672

    • Montblanc fountain pens: https://www.montblanc.com/en-us

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    Dylan Field live at Config: Intuition, simplicity, and the future of design

    Dylan Field live at Config: Intuition, simplicity, and the future of design

    Dylan Field is the co-founder and CEO of Figma, the collaborative design platform that has revolutionized how product teams work. In my first-ever live podcast, recorded at Figma Config, Dylan and I dig into:

    • How intuition and product taste drive Dylan’s decision-making

    • The challenge of keeping things simple

    • Dylan’s thoughts on the future of product management

    • Lessons from Figma’s early days

    • How Figma built their initial user base

    • Dylan’s journey from intern to CEO of a 1,000+-person company

    • The future of design tools and AI

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    Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/dylan-field-live-at-config

    Where to find Dylan Field:

    • X: https://x.com/zoink?lang=en

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dylanfield/

    Where to find Lenny:

    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Introduction

    (01:11) Welcoming Dylan Field

    (02:36) Highlights and surprises from Config

    (06:58) The philosophy of design

    (08:01) Raccoon feet and muffin hands

    (09:57) Building and refining intuition and product taste

    (12:50) How to influence leadership

    (16:14) The role of product managers

    (21:12) The future of product management

    (22:20) The importance of simplicity in design

    (26:10) The long road to Figma’s launch

    (27:44) Advice for aspiring entrepreneurs

    (29:07) Knowing when it’s time to ship

    (30:39) Early user acquisition strategies

    (35:50) Spotting trends and future innovations

    (39:20) Reflections on leadership and growth

    (43:16) Lightning round

    Referenced:

    • Mihika Kapoor on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mihikakapoor/

    • Rick Rubin on the Creative Act—60 Minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE1teB5bN-w

    • Figma pages: https://help.figma.com/hc/en-us/articles/360038511293-Create-and-manage-pages

    • Leading through uncertainty: A design-led company—Brian Chesky (Config 2023): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkfijg7s76o

    • An inside look at how Figma builds product | Yuhki Yamashita (CPO of Figma): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/an-inside-look-at-how-figma-builds

    • Vision, conviction, and hype: How to build 0 to 1 inside a company | Mihika Kapoor (Product at Figma): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/vision-conviction-hype-mihika-kapoor

    • An inside look at Figma’s unique GTM motion | Claire Butler (first GTM hire): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/an-inside-look-at-figmas-unique-bottom

    • Zigging vs. zagging: How HubSpot built a $30B company | Dharmesh Shah (co-founder/CTO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/lessons-from-30-years-of-building

    • Nadia Singer on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nadiasinger/

    • Sho Kuwamoto on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shokuwamoto/

    • FigJam: https://www.figma.com/figjam/

    • Tim Van Damme on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tim-van-damme-maxvoltar/

    • Coda: https://coda.io/

    • Shishir Mehrotra on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shishirmehrotra/

    • Websim: https://websim.ai/

    • eToys.com commercial (from Dylan’s childhood acting career): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3Y92aCmmbU

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    The social radar: Y Combinator’s secret weapon | Jessica Livingston (co-founder of Y Combinator, author, podcast host)

    The social radar: Y Combinator’s secret weapon | Jessica Livingston (co-founder of Y Combinator, author, podcast host)

    Jessica Livingston is a co-founder of Y Combinator, the first and most successful startup accelerator. Y Combinator has funded over 5,000 companies, 200 of which are now unicorns, including Airbnb, Dropbox, DoorDash, Stripe, Coinbase, and Reddit. Jessica played a crucial role in YC’s early success, when she was nicknamed the “social radar” because of her uncanny ability to quickly evaluate people—an essential skill when investing in early-stage startups. She’s also the host of the popular podcast The Social Radars, where she interviews billion-dollar-startup founders, and the author of the acclaimed book Founders at Work, which captures the origin stories of some of today’s most interesting companies. In our conversation, we discuss:

    • How Jessica gained the affectionate title of the “social radar”

    • Why defensive founders are a red flag

    • How to develop your social radar

    • What she looks for in founders during YC interviews

    • How YC’s early inexperience in angel investing led to the batch model

    • Her favorite stories from interviews with Airbnb, Rippling, and more

    • Lessons learned from hosting her own podcast

    • Much more

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    Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-social-radar-jessica-livingston

    Where to find Jessica Livingston:

    • X: https://x.com/jesslivingston

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicalivingston1/

    • Podcast: https://www.thesocialradars.com/

    Where to find Lenny:

    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Jessica’s background

    (02:42) Thoughts on being under-recognized

    (07:52) Jessica’s superpower: the social radar

    (15:11) Evaluating founders: key traits and red flags

    (21:00) The Airbnb story: a lesson in hustle and determination

    (25:57) A YC success story

    (28:26) The importance of earnestness

    (32:45) Confidence vs. defensiveness

    (34:43) Commitment and co-founder disputes

    (37:46) Relentless resourcefulness

    (40:00) Jessica’s social radar: origins and insights

    (43:24) Honing her social radar skills

    (45:44) Conviction and scams: a Y Combinator story

    (46:50) The interview process: challenges and insights

    (48:20) Operationalizing founder evaluation

    (49:38) Advice for building social radar skills

    (52:08) The “Reading the Mind in the Eyes” quiz

    (55:19) Jessica’s podcast: The Social Radars

    (01:00:34) Lessons from podcasting and interviewing

    (01:09:58) Lightning round

    Referenced:

    • Paul Graham’s post about Jessica: https://paulgraham.com/jessica.html

    • Paul Graham on X: https://x.com/paulg

    • Robert Tappan Morris: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Tappan_Morris

    • Trevor Blackwell on X: https://x.com/tlbtlbtlb

    • Y Combinator: https://www.ycombinator.com/

    • “The Founders” examines the rise and legend of PayPal: https://www.economist.com/culture/2022/02/19/the-founders-examines-the-rise-and-legend-of-paypal

    • Patrick Collison on X: https://x.com/patrickc

    • John Collison on X: https://x.com/collision

    • Brian Chesky on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianchesky/

    • Nate Blecharczyk on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/blecharczyk/

    • Joe Gebbia on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jgebbia/

    • Airbnb’s CEO says a $40 cereal box changed the course of the multibillion-dollar company: https://fortune.com/2023/04/19/airbnb-ceo-cereal-box-investors-changed-everything-billion-dollar-company/

    • Parker Conrad on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/parkerconrad/

    • Zenefits: https://connect.trinet.com/hr-platform

    • Goat: https://www.goat.com/

    • Eddy Lu on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eddylu/

    • Drew Houston on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drewhouston/

    • Arash Ferdowsi on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arashferdowsi/

    • Lessons from 1,000+ YC startups: Resilience, tar pit ideas, pivoting, more | Dalton Caldwell (Y Combinator, Managing Director): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/lessons-from-1000-yc-startups

    •Bitcoin launderer pleads guilty, admits to massive Bitfinex hack: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/03/new-york-man-admits-being-original-bitfinex-hacker-during-guilty-plea-in-dc-to-bitcoin-money-laundering.html

    • Paul Graham’s tweet with the facial recognition test: https://x.com/paulg/status/1782875262855663691

    • SmartLess podcast: https://www.smartless.com

    • Jason Bateman on X: https://x.com/batemanjason

    • Will Arnett on X: https://x.com/arnettwill

    • Sean Hayes on X: https://x.com/seanhayes

    • The Social Radars with Tony Xu, Co-Founder & CEO of DoorDash: https://www.ycombinator.com/library/Ja-tony-xu-co-founder-ceo-of-doordash

    • The Social Radars with Brian Chesky: https://www.ycombinator.com/library/JW-brian-chesky-co-founder-ceo-of-airbnb

    • The Social Radars with Patrick and John Collison: https://www.ycombinator.com/library/Kx-patrick-john-collison-co-founders-of-stripe

    • The Social Radars with Brian Armstrong: https://www.ycombinator.com/library/K3-brian-armstrong-co-founder-and-ceo-of-coinbase

    • The Social Radars with Emmett Shear: https://www.ycombinator.com/library/KM-emmett-shear-co-founder-of-twitch

    • The Social Radars with Paul Graham: https://www.ycombinator.com/library/JV-paul-graham-co-founder-of-y-combinator-and-viaweb

    • The Social Radars with Adora Cheung: https://www.ycombinator.com/library/L0-adora-cheung-co-founder-of-homejoy-instalab

    Founders at Work: Stories of Startups’ Early Days: https://www.amazon.com/Founders-Work-Stories-Startups-Early/dp/1430210788

    • Startup School: https://www.startupschool.org/

    • The Social Radars with Parker Conrad: https://www.ycombinator.com/library/Ky-parker-conrad-founder-of-zenefits-rippling

    • Rippling: https://www.rippling.com/

    Carry on, Jeeves: https://www.amazon.com/Carry-Jeeves-Dover-Thrift-Editions/dp/0486848957

    Very Good, Jeeves: https://www.amazon.com/Very-Good-Jeeves-Wooster-Book-ebook/dp/B0051GST06

    Right Ho, Jeeves: https://www.amazon.com/Right-Ho-Jeeves-P-Wodehouse-ebook/dp/B083FFDNHN/

    Life: https://www.amazon.com/Life-Keith-Richards-ebook/dp/B003UBTX72/

    My Name Is Barbra: https://www.amazon.com/My-Name-Barbra-Streisand/dp/0525429522

    Clarkson’s Farm on Prime: https://www.amazon.com/Clarksons-Farm-Season-1/dp/B095RHJ52R

    Schitt’s Creek on Hulu: https://www.hulu.com/series/schitts-creek-a2e7a946-9652-48a8-884b-3ea7ea4de273

    Yellowstone on Peacock: https://www.peacocktv.com/stream-tv/yellowstone

    • Sam Altman on X: https://x.com/sama

    • Justin Kan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinkan/

    • Alexis Ohanian on X: https://x.com/alexisohanian

    • Steve Huffman on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shuffman56/

    • Breaking News: Condé Nast/Wired Acquires Reddit: https://techcrunch.com/2006/10/31/breaking-news-conde-nastwired-acquires-reddit/

    • Charles River Venture: https://www.crv.com/

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    Making an impact through authenticity and curiosity | Ami Vora (CPO at Faire, ex-WhatsApp, FB, IG)

    Making an impact through authenticity and curiosity | Ami Vora (CPO at Faire, ex-WhatsApp, FB, IG)

    Ami Vora is the Chief Product Officer of Faire, which connects independent retailers and brands around the world. Before Faire, Ami spent over 15 years at Meta, including as VP of Product and Design for WhatsApp (2B+ users), VP of Product for Facebook’s ads system (now $130B of annual revenue), and director at Instagram. She began her career working on developer tools at Microsoft. In our conversation, we discuss:

    • Why execution eats strategy for breakfast

    • Using metaphor to rally teams around one shared goal

    • How to build cross-functional relationships

    • “Dinosaur brain,” “Toddler soccer,” and the “hill climbing” metaphors

    • A tactic for handling disagreement

    • Tips for working well with product-minded founders as a product leader

    • The story of Ami’s incredible 15-year journey from temp to VP at Meta

    • Much more

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    Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/authenticity-and-curiosity-ami-vora

    Where to find Ami Vora:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amvora/

    • Substack: https://amivora.substack.com/

    Where to find Lenny:

    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Ami’s background

    (02:00) The myth of perfection in success

    (07:55) Emotionally connecting with the job

    (09:55) Embracing curiosity in moments of challenge

    (13:16) Thinking in feedback loops

    (17:17) The “dinosaur brain” metaphor in product reviews

    (20:20) Strategies for conducting effective product reviews

    (26:33) Using metaphors and imagery to communicate your vision

    (29:35) The power of having a shared narrative

    (31:55) WhatsApp: an example of metaphor in action

    (34:44) Emulating people that inspire you

    (36:19) WhatsApp video calling

    (37:35) Why execution is greater than strategy

    (41:36) Time allotment for strategy vs. execution

    (45:10) How to become a better strategic thinker

    (47:59) The intricacies of implementing feedback

    (51:53) Being a female leader in tech

    (55:13) Advice for young women in tech

    (56:07) Setting goals and aligning incentives

    (01:01:40) Acknowledging hard truths

    (01:05:46) Lessons from transitioning to Faire

    (01:08:40) The importance of a good CPO/CEO relationship

    (01:11:17) Vetting heads of product and maintaining customer focus

    (01:12:40) How Ami went from intern to leading major products at Meta

    (01:14:53) The one thing you should do to be successful in product

    (01:17:25) Lightning round

    Referenced:

    • Faire: https://www.faire.com/

    • Making Meta | Andrew “Boz” Bosworth (CTO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/making-meta-andrew-boz-bosworth-cto

    •  Community Wisdom: AMA with Dan Hockenmaier + Facilitating a roadmap session, structuring product teams, navigating an acquisition, companies not needing PMs anymore, and much more: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/making-meta-andrew-boz-bosworth-cto

    • Developing a growth model + marketplace growth strategy | Dan Hockenmaier (Faire, Thumbtack, Reforge): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/developing-a-growth-model-marketplace

    • Dan Hockenmaier’s website: https://www.danhock.com/

    • On Reviews: https://boz.com/articles/reviews

    • Finding a global optimum always feels like a hill climb: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/amvora_finding-a-global-optimum-always-feels-like-activity-7074776143882588161-jhyy/

    • Dolores Park: https://sfrecpark.org/892/Mission-Dolores-Park

    • Rob Goldman on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robgoldman/

    • Execution eats strategy for breakfast, but execution without strategy leads to burnout: https://rationalpm.substack.com/p/execution-eats-strategy-for-breakfast

    • The goal of a “strategy” is to change our own team’s behavior: https://amivora.substack.com/p/the-goal-of-a-strategy-is-to-change

    • The paths to power: How to grow your influence and advance your career | Jeffrey Pfeffer (author of 7 Rules of Power, professor at Stanford GSB): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-paths-to-power-jeffrey-pfeffer

    • Path to Power course outline: https://jeffreypfeffer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Pfeffer-OB377-Course-Outline-2018.pdf

    • Management Time: Who’s Got the Monkey?: https://hbr.org/1999/11/management-time-whos-got-the-monkey

    • Max Rhodes on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-rhodes/

    • Coupa Coffee: https://www.coupacafe.com/

    • Brandee Barker on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandeedbarker/

    Year of Yes: How to Dance It Out, Stand In the Sun and Be Your Own Person: https://www.amazon.com/Year-Yes-Dance-Stand-Person/dp/1476777128 

    • How to tell better stories | Matthew Dicks (Storyworthy): https://www.lennyspodcast.com/how-to-tell-better-stories-matthew-dicks-storyworthy/

    • A life of yes: Matthew Dicks at TEDxSomerville: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3TaQFcaMk4

    The Office on Peacock: https://www.peacocktv.com/stream-tv/the-office

    30 Rock on Peacock: https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/30-rock/6240863759978157112

    • Dall-E-2: https://openai.com/index/dall-e-2/

    • ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com

    • Fellow kettles: https://fellowproducts.com/products/stagg-ekg-electric-pour-over-kettle

    • TikTok’s “Roman Empire” Meme, Explained: https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2023/09/21/tiktoks-roman-empire-meme-explained/

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    Hard-won lessons building 0 to 1 inside Atlassian | Tanguy Crusson (Head of Jira Product Discovery)

    Hard-won lessons building 0 to 1 inside Atlassian | Tanguy Crusson (Head of Jira Product Discovery)

    Tanguy Crusson is the product lead for Jira Product Discovery at Atlassian. In his more than 10 years at the company, he has been instrumental in taking several new products from zero to one, including HipChat, Statuspage, and Jira Product Discovery. In this episode, we dive deep into the struggles of innovating and building new products inside a large company. Tanguy shares candid stories about what worked, what didn’t, and his many hard-won lessons learned about how to successfully build 0 to 1. We cover:

    • Why large companies with so many advantages still fail at creating new products

    • Lessons learned from building HipChat

    • How to avoid common pitfalls like competitive myopia and premature scaling

    • Lessons learned from the acquisition and integration of Statuspage

    • Insights from the success of Jira Product Discovery

    • Tactics for protecting your “ugly babies”

    • The power of “lighthouse users”

    • The importance of having a “why now”

    • Much more

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    Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/building-0-to-1-inside-atlassian-tanguy-crusson

    Where to find Tanguy Crusson:

    • X: https://x.com/tanguycrusson

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tanguy-crusson-99832a

    Where to find Lenny:

    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Tanguy’s background

    (02:30) Tanguy’s journey at Atlassian

    (07:03) The challenges of innovating in large companies

    (10:42) Atlassian's high bar for excellence 

    (12:58) The HipChat story: successes, failures, and lessons learned

    (20:47) Lessons learned from building HipChat

    (33:49) Statuspage: a journey of perseverance

    (39:48) Acquisition challenges and lessons

    (47:22) Strategic decisions: build, buy, or partner?

    (48:17) Learning to articulate "why now"

    (54:08) A quick summary of lessons in this episode

    (55:40) The success and pain of launching Jira Product Discovery 

    (58:10) Incubating new products: the Point A program

    (01:00:13) Failure is the most likely outcome

    (01:04:15) Atlassian's four-phase approach to launching new products

    (01:09:20) Breaking rules without breaking trust

    (01:16:16) Early success and team autonomy

    (01:17:22) Innovating without disrupting existing customers

    (01:23:17) The Lighthouse Users program

    (01:30:00) Protecting and nurturing new ideas

    (01:36:14) Balancing innovation with personal well-being

    (01:38:17) A reminder to look after yourself

    (01:42:06) Lightning round

    Referenced:

    • Atlassian: https://www.atlassian.com/

    • HipChat: https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Hipchat/ct-p/hipchat

    • Stride: https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Stride/ct-p/stride

    • Statuspage: https://www.atlassian.com/software/statuspage

    • Opsgenie: https://www.atlassian.com/software/opsgenie

    • Jira Product Discovery: https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/product-discovery

    • HipChat billboard: https://x.com/HubSpot/status/654696998126272512

    • Announcing our new partnership with Slack: https://www.atlassian.com/blog/announcements/new-atlassian-slack-partnership

    • Slack shows it’s worried about Microsoft Teams with a full-page newspaper ad: https://www.theverge.com/2016/11/2/13497766/slack-microsoft-teams-new-york-times-ad

    • What Is ‘Dogfooding’?: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/14/business/dogfooding.html

    • Jira: https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira

    • Confluence: https://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence

    • PagerDuty: https://www.pagerduty.com/

    • New Relic: https://newrelic.com/

    • BigPanda: https://www.bigpanda.io/

    • Transparent Uptime: http://www.transparentuptime.com/

    • Vision, conviction, and hype: How to build 0 to 1 inside a company | Mihika Kapoor (Product at Figma): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/vision-conviction-hype-mihika-kapoor

    • Figma: https://www.figma.com/

    • Lessons from Atlassian: Launching new products, getting buy-in, and staying ahead of the competition | Megan Cook (head of product, Jira): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/lessons-from-atlassian-launching

    • Noah Weiss on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/noahw/

    • Tanguy’s LinkedIn post about “lighthouse users”: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/tanguy-crusson-99832a_lighthouse-users-one-of-the-pm-techniques-activity-7176654510801502210-hWNi/

    • Pixar Chief: Protect Your ‘Ugly Babies’ (Your Unsightly Ideas): https://www.forbes.com/sites/andyboynton/2014/03/17/pixar-chief-protect-your-ugly-babies-your-unsightly-ideas/

    • Atlas: https://www.atlassian.com/software/atlas

    • Point A: https://www.atlassian.com/point-a

    • Scott Farquhar on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottfarquhar

    Who: A Method for Hiring: https://www.amazon.com/Who-Method-Hiring-HC-2008/dp/B004C79SRS/

    Hakim’s Odyssey: Book 1: From Syria to Turkey: https://www.amazon.com/Hakims-Odyssey-Book-Syria-Turkey/dp/1637790007

    Living with the Earth, Volume 1: Permaculture, Ecoculture: Inspired by Nature: https://www.amazon.com/Living-Earth-Gardeners-Permaculture-Ecoculture/dp/1856232603/

    • INRIA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Institute_for_Research_in_Computer_Science_and_Automation

    • How a Hydrofoil Works: https://web.mit.edu/2.972/www/reports/hydrofoil/hydrofoil.html

    • What Is Kitefoil or Foilboarding?: https://www.whenitswindy.com/wp/?page_id=534

    • Freediving: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freediving

    • Tanguy’s freediving stats: https://www.aidainternational.org/Athletes/Profile-00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000a45

    • Perplexity: https://www.perplexity.com/

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    The paths to power: How to grow your influence and advance your career | Jeffrey Pfeffer (author of 7 Rules of Power, professor at Stanford GSB)

    The paths to power: How to grow your influence and advance your career | Jeffrey Pfeffer (author of 7 Rules of Power, professor at Stanford GSB)

    Jeffrey Pfeffer teaches the single most popular (and somewhat controversial) class at Stanford’s Graduate School of Business: The Paths to Power. He’s also the author of 16 books, including 7 Rules of Power: Surprising—But True—Advice on How to Get Things Done and Advance Your Career. He has taught at Harvard, the London Business School, and IESE and has written for publications like Fortune and the Washington Post. Recognized by the Academy of Management and listed in the Thinkers50 Hall of Fame, Jeffrey also serves on several corporate and nonprofit boards, bringing his expertise to global audiences through seminars and executive education. In our conversation, we discuss:

    • Jeffrey’s seven rules of power

    • How individuals can acquire and use power in business

    • Networking, and how to do it effectively

    • How to build a non-cringe personal brand

    • How to increase your influence to amplify your impact

    • Examples and stories of people building power

    • Tradeoffs and challenges that come with power

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    Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-paths-to-power-jeffrey-pfeffer

    Where to find Jeffrey Pfeffer:

    • X: https://x.com/JeffreyPfeffer

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffrey-pfeffer-57a01b6/

    • Website: https://jeffreypfeffer.com/

    • Podcast: https://jeffreypfeffer.com/pfeffer-on-power/

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    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Jeffrey’s background 

    (02:54) Understanding discomfort with power

    (04:56) Power skills for underrepresented groups

    (07:51) The popularity and challenges of Jeffrey’s class at Stanford

    (12:21) The seven rules of power

    (13:03) Success stories from his course

    (15:43) Building a personal brand

    (21:11) Getting out of your own way

    (26:04) Breaking the rules to gain power

    (30:34) Networking relentlessly

    (40:10) Why Jeffrey says to “pursue weak ties”

    (42:00) Using your power to build more power

    (44:34) The importance of appearance and body language

    (47:15) Mastering the art of presentation

    (55:12) Examples of homework assignments that Jeffrey gives students

    (59:11) People will forget how you acquired power

    (01:03:58) More good people need to have power

    (01:10:49) The price of power and autonomy

    (01:17:13) A homework assignment for you

    Referenced:

    • Gerald Ferris on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerald-r-ferris-5816b1b5/

    • Political Skill at Work: https://tarjomefa.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/4173-engilish.pdf

    • Laura Esserman, MD: https://cancer.ucsf.edu/people/esserman.laura

    • Taylor Swift’s website: https://www.taylorswift.com/

    • Matthew 7: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%207&version=NIV

    • Mother Teresa quote: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/2887-if-you-judge-people-you-have-no-time-to-love

    • Paths to Power course description: https://jeffreypfeffer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Pfeffer-OB377-Course-Outline-2018.pdf

    7 Rules of Power: https://jeffreypfeffer.com/books/7-rules-of-power/

    The Knowing-Doing Gap: https://jeffreypfeffer.com/books/the-knowing-doing-gap/

    • Derek Kan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/derekkan/

    • Mitt Romney on X: https://x.com/mittromney

    • Elaine Chao’s website: https://www.elainechao.com/

    • Tony Hsieh: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Hsieh

    • Zappos: https://www.zappos.com/

    • How I Did It: Zappos’s CEO on Going to Extremes for Customers: https://hbr.org/2010/07/how-i-did-it-zapposs-ceo-on-going-to-extremes-for-customers

    • McKinsey & Company: https://www.mckinsey.com/

    • Bain & Company: https://www.bain.com/

    • BCG: https://www.bcg.com/

    • Keith Ferrazzi’s website: https://www.keithferrazzi.com/

    • Deloitte: https://www2.deloitte.com/

    • Tristan Walker: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tristanwalker/

    • Foursquare: https://foursquare.com/

    • Laura Chau on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-chau/

    • Canaan Partners: https://www.canaan.com/

    • Andreessen Horowitz: https://a16z.com/

    • Sequoia Capital: https://www.sequoiacap.com/

    • Greylock: https://greylock.com/

    The Women Who Venture (WoVen) Podcast: https://www.canaan.com/woven/podcasts

    • Imposter syndrome: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/imposter-syndrome

    • Gary Loveman and Harrah’s Entertainment: https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/faculty-research/case-studies/gary-loveman-harrahs-entertainment

    • “If you need help, just ask”: Underestimating compliance with direct requests for help: https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/faculty-research/publications/if-you-need-help-just-ask-underestimating-compliance-direct-requests

    • Life story of Kathleen Frances Fowler: https://www.forevermissed.com/kathleenfowler/lifestory

    • Jason Calacanis on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasoncalacanis/

    • Jason Calacanis: A Case Study in Creating Resources: https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/faculty-research/case-studies/jason-calacanis-case-study-creating-resources

    You’re Invited: The Art and Science of Connection, Trust, and Belonging: https://www.amazon.com/Youre-Invited-Science-Cultivating-Influence/dp/0063030977

    • View from the Top: https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/experience/learning/guest-speakers/view-top

    • Omid Kordestani on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/omid-kordestani-46515151/

    • Netscape: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netscape

    •  Esther Wojcicki on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/estherwojcicki/

    • Leanne Williams: https://med.stanford.edu/profiles/leanne-williams

    Precision Psychiatry: Using Neuroscience Insights to Inform Personally Tailored, Measurement-Based Care: https://www.amazon.com/Precision-Psychiatry-Neuroscience-Personally-Measurement-Based/dp/1615371583

    • Mark Granovetter on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-granovetter-8161704/

    • The Strength of Weak Ties: https://snap.stanford.edu/class/cs224w-readings/granovetter73weakties.pdf

    Getting a Jobhttps://www.amazon.com/Getting-Job-Study-Contacts-Careers/dp/0226305813

    Acting with Power: https://www.amazon.com/Acting-Power-More-Powerful-Believe/dp/110190397X

    • Articles by Herminia Ibarra: https://herminiaibarra.com/articles/

    Kingdom of the Planet of the Ape: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11389872/

    • Jim Collins’s website: https://www.jimcollins.com/

    • Dana Carney on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danarosecarney/

    • Baba Shiv: https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/faculty-research/faculty/baba-shiv

    • Tony Hayward: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Hayward

    • Lloyd Blankfein: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_Blankfein

    • Regis McKenna: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regis_McKenna

    • Jack Valenti: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Valenti

    • Salman Rushdie quote: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/434175220328596286/

    • How to build deeper, more robust relationships | Carole Robin (Stanford GSB professor, “Touchy Feely”): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/build-robust-relationships-carole-robin

    • Carole Robin’s 15% rule: https://pen-name.notion.site/Carole-Robin-on-Lenny-s-Podcast-dc7159208e4242428f4b11ebc92285eb

    • Karlie Kloss on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karliekloss

    • Lindsey Graham’s website: https://www.lindseygraham.com/

    • Was Microsoft’s Empire Built on Stolen Code? We May Never Know: https://www.wired.com/2012/08/ms-dos-examined-for-thef/

    • Who’s who of Jeffrey Epstein’s powerful friends, associates and possible co-conspirators: https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/12/us/jeffrey-epstein-associates-possible-accomplices/index.html

    • Why Did Martha Stewart Go to Prison? A Look Back at Her 2004 Fraud Case: https://people.com/martha-stewart-fraud-case-prison-sentence-look-back-8550277

    • Dianne Feinstein: https://www.congress.gov/member/dianne-feinstein/F000062

    • Richard Blum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_C._Blum

    • Athena Care Network: https://www.athenacarenetwork.org

    • James G. March: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_G._March

    • Satya Nadella on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/satyanadella/

    • Trump Organization fined $1.6 million for tax fraud: https://apnews.com/article/politics-legal-proceedings-new-york-city-donald-trump-manhattan-e2f1d01525dafb64be8738c8b4f32085

    • Rudy Giuliani: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Giuliani

    • Harvard president resigns amid claims of plagiarism and antisemitism backlash: https://www.theguardian.com/education/2024/jan/02/harvard-president-claudine-gay-resigns

    • Stanford president resigns after fallout from falsified data in his research: https://www.npr.org/2023/07/19/1188828810/stanford-university-president-resigns

    • Rudy Crew: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Crew

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    Lessons from a two-time unicorn builder, 50-time startup advisor, and 20-time company board member | Uri Levine (co-founder of Waze)

    Lessons from a two-time unicorn builder, 50-time startup advisor, and 20-time company board member | Uri Levine (co-founder of Waze)

    Uri Levine is the co-founder of Waze, the world’s largest community-based traffic and navigation app, acquired by Google for over $1 billion. He’s also founded nine other companies, been on the board of 20 companies, and advised more than 50 companies. He’s most recently the author of Fall in Love with the Problem, Not the Solution: A Handbook for Entrepreneurs, hailed by Steve Wozniak as the “Bible for entrepreneurs.” Uri is dedicated to creating impactful startups that solve real-world problems and has seen everything from failure to moderate success to big success. In our conversation, we dig into:

    • Why falling in love with the problem is key to startup success

    • The phases of the startup journey and how to navigate them

    • Why firing is more important than hiring

    • How Waze iterated to achieve product-market fit

    • Tactics for telling a compelling story when fundraising

    • Much more

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    Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/lessons-from-uri-levine

    Where to find Uri Levine:

    • X: https://twitter.com/urilevine1

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/uri-levine

    • Website: https://urilevine.com/

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    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Uri’s background

    (02:50) Falling in love with the problem

    (09:03) Signs this is a big enough problem

    (10:54) The importance of passion

    (12:06) A pivot example

    (14:01) Where to find startup ideas

    (21:57) Finding product-market fit at Waze

    (29:45) The different phases of a startup journey

    (36:47) What investors don’t want to hear

    (39:53) Fundraising tips

    (48:02) How to make your presentations stronger

    (50:32) A wild fundraising story

    (53:46) Firing and hiring

    (59:50) The 30-day test

    (01:04:12) Understanding users

    (01:12:10) Talking to the right users

    (01:15:36) Lightning round

    Referenced:

    Fall in Love with the Problem, Not the Solution: A Handbook for Entrepreneurs: https://www.amazon.com/Fall-Love-Problem-Solution-Entrepreneurs/dp/1637741987

    • Waze: https://www.waze.com/

    • Ben Horowitz on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/behorowitz/

    • Ben Horowitz quote: https://quotefancy.com/quote/1635284/Ben-Horowitz-As-a-startup-CEO-I-slept-like-a-baby-I-woke-up-every-2-hours-and-cried

    • Michael Jordan quote: https://www.forbes.com/quotes/11194/#:~:text=I've%20lost%20almost%20300,that%20is%20why%20I%20succeed.

    • Steph Curry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Curry

    • How Airbnb Used Word of Mouth to Change the Travel Industry Forever: https://truested.com/story/airbnb

    • Space Mountain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Mountain_(Disneyland)

    • How Netflix builds a culture of excellence | Elizabeth Stone (CTO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-netflix-builds-a-culture-of-excellence

    • Steve Wozniak on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wozniaksteve/

    • Uri’s post about the conference in Guatemala with Steve Wozniak: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/uri-levine_jewishnewyear-speakers-book-activity-6980089544079486976-0ADa/

    • Leonardo da Vinci quote: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/9010638-simplicity-is-the-ultimate-sophistication-when-once-you-have-tasted

    • Geoffrey Moore on finding your beachhead, crossing the chasm, and dominating a market: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/geoffrey-moore-on-finding-your-beachhead

    • Nana Korobi Ya Oki: https://ikigaitribe.com/vlog/nana-korobi-ya-oki/

    That Will Never Work: The Birth of Netflix and the Amazing Life of an Idea: https://www.amazon.com/That-Will-Never-Work-Netflix/dp/0316530204

    Atomic Habits: An Easy & Proven Way to Build Good Habits & Break Bad Ones: https://www.amazon.com/Atomic-Habits-Proven-Build-Break/dp/0735211299

    • 8 Great Chess Apps for Beginners and Grand Masters: https://www.wired.com/story/best-chess-apps/

    • Pontera: https://pontera.com/

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