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    Extra: The Men Who Started a Thinking Revolution (Update)

    en-usApril 14, 2024

    About this Episode

    The psychologist Daniel Kahneman — a Nobel laureate and the author of Thinking, Fast and Slow — recently died at age 90. Along with his collaborator Amos Tversky, he changed how we all think about decision-making. The journalist Michael Lewis told the Kahneman-Tversky story in a 2016 book called The Undoing Project. In this episode, Lewis explains why they had such a profound influence.

     

     

     

    🔑 Key Takeaways

    • Despite being unfilmable, Kahneman and Tversky's groundbreaking research on human irrationality revolutionized psychology and economics.
    • Michael Lewis spends 75% of his time on research, uses a playlist to trigger writing response, and was inspired by an overlooked baseball phenomenon to write about influential psychologists Daniel Kahneman and Amos Tversky, leading to a revolution in understanding human decision-making.
    • Behavioral economics reveals humans don't always make rational decisions as assumed in traditional economic models. Instead, we rely on mental shortcuts like anchoring and availability heuristic, leading to potential errors.
    • Understanding cognitive biases like availability heuristic, vividness bias, recency bias, and loss aversion can help us make more informed decisions and avoid costly errors.
    • Through their contrasting perspectives and intellectual clash, Tversky and Kahneman revolutionized our understanding of human decision-making, debunking the assumption of human rationality.
    • Amos Tversky's unconventional approach to life, his strong-willed personality, and his ability to recognize and nurture talent led to groundbreaking work in human behavior research with Daniel Kahneman.
    • Stereotypes can negatively impact judgments and decisions, but focusing too much on differences can also perpetuate them. Behavioral economics offers solutions to reduce stereotypes' power.
    • Their discoveries about human decision-making led to the creation of 'nudge units' in governments, improving policies and people's lives.
    • Nobel Prize-winning psychologist Daniel Kahneman transformed from doubting everything to embracing his role as the wise man in economics, making it more human and interesting through his work with Amos Tversky. Their contributions were further highlighted in Michael Lewis' book.

    📝 Podcast Summary

    Revolutionizing human decision-making with Kahneman and Tversky

    The late psychologist Daniel Kahneman, along with his collaborator Amos Tversky, revolutionized the fields of psychology and economics through their groundbreaking research on human decision-making. Contrary to standard economic theory, they found that humans are not as rational as assumed. Kahneman gained widespread fame with his 2011 book "Thinking Fast and Slow," but his earlier work, detailed in Michael Lewis' book "The Undoing Project," was equally significant. Despite the seemingly unfilmable nature of their work, Hollywood managed to adapt some of Lewis' books, including "Moneyball" and "The Big Short." Michael Lewis, the journalist and author, shared his experiences with Freakonomics Radio about the challenges of turning his books into movies. His latest book, "The Undoing Project," about Kahneman and Tversky, may be the most challenging yet due to its focus on two academics writing papers in a room. Regardless, their discoveries about human thought processes were nothing short of earth-shattering. Michael Lewis' ability to make complex ideas accessible through his writing is a rare and valuable skill, but the process of creating these books is not easy or effortless for him.

    Michael Lewis's Unique Writing Process

    Michael Lewis, a best-selling author, shares his unique writing process, which involves extensive preparation, fun writing sessions with his own playlist, and a surprising conditioning mechanism. He mentions that he spends around three quarters of his time on research and organization before he starts writing. During the writing process, he is so engrossed in his work that he becomes oblivious to his surroundings and even laughs at his own jokes. His playlist, consisting of pop songs with lyrics, helps trigger his writing response. The idea for his book "The Undoing Project" was inspired by the misvaluation of people in baseball, but he later realized that he hadn't explored the reasons behind this phenomenon. This oversight was pointed out in a review by economist Richard Thaler and legal scholar Cass Sunstein, introducing him to the influential work of psychologists Daniel Kahneman and Amos Tversky. Despite their research being relatively unknown at the time, it has led to a significant revolution in understanding human decision-making, from small choices to major decisions.

    Understanding Decisions through Behavioral Economics

    Behavioral economics is a field that combines empirical research and common sense to understand how people make decisions, which often deviate from the rational predictions of traditional economic theory. This field, pioneered by Amos Tversky and Daniel Kahneman, exposes the gap between our perceived decision-making processes and the actual ones. They found that people tend to rely on heuristics, or mental shortcuts, which can lead to errors. Anchoring is one such heuristic, where irrelevant information can sway judgments. For instance, estimating the number of African countries in the UN based on a spun wheel number. The availability heuristic is another, where judgments are based on readily available information rather than the actual likelihood of an event. These findings challenge the assumption of human rationality in economic models and offer valuable insights into human behavior.

    Cognitive biases in perception of probability and risk

    Our perception of probability and risk is influenced by various cognitive biases such as the availability heuristic, vividness bias, recency bias, and loss aversion. These biases can lead us to overvalue certain events or underestimate others, often with significant consequences. Kahneman and Tversky, two influential psychologists, explored these biases in their research, which challenged the standard economic model for decision making. Their experiences with risk and adversity, as well as their fascination with how people process information, drove their scholarship. They concluded that the human imagination follows certain rules and set out to study how people undo tragedies and create alternative scenarios to challenge false views of human nature and the mind. While their work identified numerous cognitive shortcuts and errors, they believed that people might be better at correcting for others' illusions than their own. Ultimately, they advocated for the use of data as an antidote to intuitive judgments and biases.

    The unlikely partnership of Amos Tversky and Daniel Kahneman

    The collaboration between Amos Tversky and Daniel Kahneman, two seemingly disparate individuals in the field of psychology, led to groundbreaking discoveries about human decision-making. Initially, they held contrasting views, with Tversky assuming people were rational decision-makers and Kahneman challenging this notion. Their shared curiosity and intellectual clash ignited a fruitful exploration of human cognition, defying the expectations of their colleagues. Kahneman, a brooding and insecure mathematician with a unique talent for changing his mind, had been shaped by his experiences as a child during the Holocaust. His evasiveness and doubt contrasted with Tversky's outgoing and confident demeanor. Their collaboration revolutionized the understanding of human decision-making, influencing various spheres of life and debunking the assumption of human rationality.

    Amos Tversky's Unconventional Life

    Amos Tversky's unconventional approach to life and his relentless pursuit of what he wanted, even in the face of societal expectations, played a significant role in his intellectual success. Born into a humble background and a decorated war hero, Amos was a simple, happy kid who grew up to become a brilliant and influential thinker. His childhood experiences shaped him into a strong-willed individual, and his intellect was so profound that it took others a long time to realize it. Amos' partnership with Daniel Kahneman was a testament to his ability to recognize and nurture talent. He saw Kahneman's potential and gave him the confidence to be himself, leading to one of the most productive intellectual partnerships in modern history. Their work challenged the status quo and revolutionized the way social scientists understood human behavior. Amos' personal life was just as original as his professional one. He was known for his aggressive expression of preferences and his ruthless prioritization of his time. His approach to life inspired Michael Lewis, who was moved by Amos' ability to live and work on his own terms. Amos' story serves as a reminder that being true to oneself and pursuing one's passions can lead to remarkable achievements.

    Understanding the Power of Stereotypes

    The way we classify and stereotype people based on their differences can be detrimental and reinforce stereotypes. Amos Tversky and Daniel Kahneman's research on the representative heuristic revealed that people often make judgments based on stereotypes, which can negatively impact hiring decisions and other areas of life. However, focusing too much on differences in the name of equity and fairness can also perpetuate stereotypes. To reduce the power of stereotypes, it's important to eliminate classifications and focus on similarities. Behavioral economics, which is based on Kahneman and Tversky's work, acknowledges the shortcomings of human thought processes and offers solutions to nudge people towards better decisions. The field of behavioral economics has gained popularity in academia, government, and firms, but its success in changing people's behaviors and reducing the power of stereotypes remains to be seen.

    Impact of Danny Kahneman and Amos Tversky's partnership on various spheres

    The intellectual partnership between Danny Kahneman and Amos Tversky had a profound impact on various spheres of human life, from economics and medicine to government policy. Their discoveries about human decision-making and the influence of environment on choices led to the concept of "nudge units" in governments worldwide. However, their relationship was complex, with Danny feeling resentful and insecure about the recognition Amos received before Amos's death. When Danny won the Nobel Prize in Economics for their work, he grappled with feelings of worthiness and importance, which were amplified by Amos's absence. Despite the temporary happiness of the prize, the opportunities and recognition it brought in the long term made a significant difference in Danny's life.

    Daniel Kahneman's Transformation and Impact on Economics

    Daniel Kahneman, a Nobel Prize-winning psychologist, has evolved into a more comfortable and wise figure in his post-Nobel Prize years. Kahneman, who once doubted everything and saw himself as a professor or rabbi, now embraces his role as the wise man, a title bestowed upon him due to his influence on economics. His depth of interest and the intrigue of his thoughts make him one of the most fascinating characters in the speaker's career. Kahneman and his collaborator Amos Tversky were instrumental in making economics more human and interesting to the speaker, and Michael Lewis' book on them shed further light on their remarkable contributions. The Freakonomics Radio episode on Kahneman was produced by a team at Stitcher and Renbud Radio, and their theme song is "Mr. Fortune" by the Hitchhikers. Overall, Kahneman's transformation and his impact on economics continue to inspire and captivate.

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