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    This is special bonus episode about Anti-Striving from our previous guest Nadine Kenney Johnstone's podcast Heart of the Story.

    The pace of life is too frantic; the grind is unsustainable. What do we do to combat unhealthy striving and hustle culture while still pursuing our passions and doing work we love? Nadine shares her own story of getting off the hamster wheel and 5 antidotes for striving. 

    About Nadine:

    Her new book, Come Home to Your Heart, is available on Bookshop,  Barnes & Noble, and Amazon.

    Award-winning author Nadine Kenney Johnstone is a holistic writing coach who helps women develop and publish their stories. Her articles and interviews have appeared in Cosmo, Authority, MindBodyGreen, HERE, Urban Wellness, Natural Awakenings, and more. Nadine is the podcast host of Heart of the Story, where she shares stories from the heart as well as interviews with today’s most impactful female creatives. Pulling from her vast experience as a writing, meditation, and yoga nidra instructor, Nadine leads women’s workshops and retreats online and around the U.S.

    Follow Nadine on Instagram @nadinekenneyjohnstone

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    Content Warning: This episode deals with sensitive topics like suicide, PTSD, divorce, and poor mental health.  

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    Hosted by Katherin Vasilopoulos. Made by Cansulta and Ethan Lee.
    Music by © Correspondence and © Chris Zabriskie, published by You've Been a Wonderful Laugh Track (ASCAP). 

    Songs used in this episode include: 

    • Chris Zabriskie - "Air Hockey Saloon," "It Takes a Lot to Keep a Figure Like This," "Perhaps It Was Not Properly Manufactured," "The Lower Third Hall of Fame,"  "Cylinder Nine," "Cylinder Four," "CGI Snake," "I'm About to Do the Second Hardest Thing I've Ever Done," "Stories About the World That Once Was," "We Were Never Meant to Live Here," "Short Song 011823," "Short Song 021723," "Short Song 030223," "The House Glows (With Almost No Help)," "I Can't Imagine Where I'd Be Without It."

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    • How AI is being used to disrupt recruiting
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    Music by © Correspondence and © Chris Zabriskie, published by You've Been a Wonderful Laugh Track (ASCAP). 

    Songs used in this episode include: 

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    Hosted by Katherin Vasilopoulos. Made by Cansulta and Ethan Lee.
    Music by © Correspondence and © Chris Zabriskie, published by You've Been a Wonderful Laugh Track (ASCAP). 

    Songs used in this episode include: 

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    • Correspondence - "On Again."

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    Re: Inventing - Creating Your Version of Success (w/ Alina Kravchenko, Founder - Better Way Goods & Better Way Body)

    Re: Inventing - Creating Your Version of Success (w/ Alina Kravchenko, Founder - Better Way Goods & Better Way Body)

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    • Overcoming immense self-doubt
    • Defining success as a creative person
    • Embracing falls instead of giving in to failure
    • Why pursuing wealth will never make you happy 
    • How she created both SwipenSnap and TonerBum

     

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    Music by © Correspondence and © Chris Zabriskie, published by You've Been a Wonderful Laugh Track (ASCAP). 

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    • Correspondence - "Harp Routine."

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    Are You Culturally Intelligent? From Local to Global Impact (w/ Bisila Bokoko)

    Are You Culturally Intelligent? From Local to Global Impact (w/ Bisila Bokoko)

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    Music by © Correspondence and © Chris Zabriskie, published by You've Been a Wonderful Laugh Track (ASCAP). 

    Songs used in this episode include: 

    • Chris Zabriskie - "Air Hockey Saloon," "I Am Running Down the Long Hallway of Viewmont Elementary," "Your Mother's Daughter," "Is That You or Are You You?"  "Short Song 011723," "Short Song 020323," "Land On the Golden Gate," "Everybody's Got Problems That Aren't Mine."
    • Correspondence - "On Again (version)," "Expanding Cycle," "On + On," "On Again," "In Copenhagen," "Longshore Drift (fragments)."

    Used under the Creative Commons 4.0 International License

    The Solopreneur Journey to Award-Winning Success (w/ Heather Odendaal, Founder & CEO - WNORTH)

    The Solopreneur Journey to Award-Winning Success (w/ Heather Odendaal, Founder & CEO - WNORTH)

    **Use code AndSoSheLeftPod to get $150 off your WNORTH Conference Pass!**

    In 2015, Heather Odendaal founded the WNORTH conference.

    The aim of WNORTH is simple: create more pathways for women to become business leaders through networking and collaboration. For the first 8 years, Heather worked as a solopreneur. Today, she's built a small but mighty team and together, they have grown WNORTH to seven chapter cities and launched a membership program with 1300 leaders from companies like Google, Lululemon, Aritzia, and Cisco. The conference has also won a half-dozen awards and been held at swanky venues like the Four Seasons. 

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    • How to take time off strategically
    • Doing everything herself for 8 years
    • The importance of paying it forward
    • Taking time to step away and recharge
    • Recognizing her customers' biggest needs
    • Enduring the pandemic as an events-based business

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    Hosted by Katherin Vasilopoulos. Made by Cansulta and Ethan Lee.
    Music by © Correspondence and © Chris Zabriskie, published by You've Been a Wonderful Laugh Track (ASCAP). 

    Songs used in this episode include: 

    • Chris Zabriskie - "Air Hockey Saloon," "CGI Snake," "Everyone Will Notice, No One Will Say Anything," "What True Self? Feels Bogus, Let's Watch Jason X,"  "Another Version of You," "The Theatrical Poster for Poltergeist III."
    • Correspondence - "On Again (version)," "The North Sea (version)," "Chime Hour (edit)," "Up + Up (reprise/arise)."

    Used under the Creative Commons 4.0 International License

    How to Make It as a Latina Entrepreneur: Lessons from an Armadillo (w/ Sami Haiman-Marrero, CEO - Urbander)

    How to Make It as a Latina Entrepreneur: Lessons from an Armadillo (w/ Sami Haiman-Marrero, CEO - Urbander)

    Urbander CEO Samí Haiman-Marrero describes herself as an armadillo.  

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    • Why establishing a sense of community is a must
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    Hosted by Katherin Vasilopoulos. Made by Cansulta and Ethan Lee.
    Music by © Correspondence and © Chris Zabriskie, published by You've Been a Wonderful Laugh Track (ASCAP). 

    Songs used in this episode include: 

    • Chris Zabriskie - "Air Hockey Saloon," "I Refuse to Accept That There's Nothing I Can Do About It," "Candlepower," "Wonder Cycle,"  "I Am Running Down the Long Hallway of Viewmont Elementary," " Short Song 020923," "The House Glows (With Almost No Help."
    • Correspondence - "Playing Field," "Longshore Drift (fragments)," "In Copenhagen," "The North Sea (version)," "New Year's Loops," "Expanding Cycle."  

    Used under the Creative Commons 4.0 International License

    A Quick Update

    A Quick Update

    And So, She Left returns January 24.  

     

    New episodes every Wednesday.

     

    We'd love to hear your feedback! 
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    Hosted by Katherin Vasilopoulos. Made by Cansulta and Ethan Lee.
    Music by © Chris Zabriskie, published by You've Been a Wonderful Laugh Track (ASCAP). 

    Songs used in this episode include: "Short Song 020923."

    Used under the Creative Commons 4.0 International License

    The Learning and Development Survival Guide (w/ Leah Carr, CEO - tilr)

    The Learning and Development Survival Guide (w/ Leah Carr, CEO - tilr)

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    • Absolutely essential advice for skills acquisition
    • The most important skills employees need right now
    • Developing a hyper-rational approach to entrepreneurship
    • Developing upskilling solutions for entrepreneurs and businesses

     

    We'd love to hear your feedback! 
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    Hosted by Katherin Vasilopoulos. Made by Cansulta and Ethan Lee.
    Music by © Chris Zabriskie, published by You've Been a Wonderful Laugh Track (ASCAP). 

    Songs used in this episode include: "Air Hockey Saloon," "Everyone Will Notice, No One Will Say Anything," "Hitchcock Would Have F___ed Up Charades," "What True Self? Feels Bogus, Let's Watch Jason X,"  " Short Song 022123."

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    "You, a Successful Podcast Booker...in America?" From Detainee to Entrepreneur (w/ Christelle Biiga, Founder & CEO - Exposure Maven)

    "You, a Successful Podcast Booker...in America?" From Detainee to Entrepreneur (w/ Christelle Biiga, Founder & CEO - Exposure Maven)

    Every once in a while, we hear a story that floors us. Christelle Biiga’s story is one of them.

     

    Today, she gets clients in front of the right podcast audiences to grow their businesses. Her company is called Exposure Maven. 

     

    As a young girl in Cameroon, she bought into the American Dream. She knew no one in the states. Had no family or friends stateside. And could barely speak English at the time. But she still bought a one-way ticket to LAX.  

     

    What Christelle couldn’t know was that the next few years would stretch her resilience, patience, and spirit to their absolute limits. She would find herself coping with stress, trauma, and self-doubt. And she would discover just how much she was capable of as an entrepreneur. 

     

    Christelle talks about:

    • Being illegally detained at LAX
    • Spending 9 months in a detention center
    • Persistence in the face of doubt and obstacles
    • How her trauma resurfaced in the middle of a shift
    • Sharing her traumatic story and overcoming shame
    • The importance of staying busy and embracing unpredictability 

     

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    Hosted by Katherin Vasilopoulos. Made by Cansulta and Ethan Lee.

    Music by © Chris Zabriskie, published by You've Been a Wonderful Laugh Track (ASCAP). 

    Songs used in this episode include: "Air Hockey Saloon," "And It Is There, in Those Depths," "They Call It Nature," "Short Song 011223,"  " Short Song 020523," "Short Song 030923," "There's a Special Place for Some People." 

    Used under the Creative Commons 4.0 International License