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    ARK'S Cathie Wood Hasn’t Lost Faith in the Future

    enNovember 03, 2023

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    • Divisive MPC Meeting: Inflation vs. GrowthMPC members disagreed on interest rates, signaling potential shift in group think and inflation concerns, but experts warn of possible deflation trend

      The Bank of England's Monetary Policy Committee (MPC) had a divisive meeting this week, with no clear consensus on interest rates. While some members voted to keep rates at 5.25%, others favored a rate hike to 5.5%, and the lone dove in the group decided against pushing for a cut. This disagreement among committee members signals a potential shift in group think and could indicate growing concerns about inflation, which remains above the 2% target. However, some experts caution that inflation follows cyclical patterns and could still trend downward, leading to a period of deflation. Overall, the MPC's divided vote highlights the ongoing uncertainty surrounding the economic outlook and the challenges of balancing inflation and growth.

    • Preparing for a prolonged period of higher interest rates and inflationExpect a prolonged period of higher interest rates and inflation, as central banks work to prevent a resurgence of inflation and the economy remains uncertain

      The current inflationary episode is not over yet, despite the possibility of short-term low inflation or even deflation. Central banks are expected to keep interest rates high to prevent inflation from bouncing back up. The economy is not in a recession yet, but there are worrying signs such as cooling labor markets and slowing GDP growth. It's unclear whether we will experience a recession or a prolonged period of stagflation. Historically, the last few percentage points of inflation are the hardest to shake out of the system. Therefore, individuals should not assume that interest rates will start coming down and the inflationary episode is over. Instead, they should prepare for a prolonged period of higher interest rates and inflation.

    • Cathie Wood's Belief in Deflation Amidst Inflationary PressuresCathie Wood, founder of ARK Investment Management, remains optimistic about deflation despite inflationary pressures due to historical parallels and China's weak economy.

      Cathie Wood, founder of ARK Investment Management, is known for her innovative investment strategy through her actively managed and high-conviction ETF, ARK Innovation. Despite significant losses following its peak in 2021, investors remain loyal due to Wood's belief in deflation rather than inflation in the current macroeconomic environment. She draws parallels between the present situation and the 1910s, citing wars, pandemics, and supply chain issues as major causes of inflation and its subsequent reversal. Wood also believes that China's weak economy is contributing to deflation by exporting it to other countries. Despite the ETF's past performance, ARK's focus on innovation and Wood's unique perspective on the macroeconomic environment continue to attract investors.

    • Signs of deflation in the economyDespite declining commodity prices and economic weakness, some dismiss deflation concerns. M2 contraction and potential regional bank instability add to the deflation risk.

      We are currently experiencing deflationary pressures, not inflation, as indicated by the decline in commodity prices and the Bloomberg Commodity Price Index being at levels last seen in the early 1980s. Companies are also reporting economic weakness, with many, including Meta Platforms, acknowledging a slowdown in the US and European economies. The price of Bitcoin, which some view as an inflation hedge, may instead be serving as a safe haven due to concerns about regional banks and the potential for deflation. The money supply (M2) is also contracting at a rate not seen since the 1930s, and the ongoing economic instability could lead to a further decrease in inflation or even deflation. Despite these warning signs, some seem to be dismissing the potential for deflation. It's important to keep an eye on these economic indicators as the situation develops.

    • Velocity of Money Slowing Down and Inflation, Interest Rates RisingThe velocity of money is declining and inflation, interest rates are rising, which could lead to an economic downturn. Algorithms are driving the market based on cash reserves and spending, while emerging technologies will drive economic growth.

      The velocity of money, which had been declining since 1997 and collapsed during the COVID-19 pandemic, is showing signs of slowing down again. This, coupled with rising inflation and interest rates, could lead to a significant economic downturn. The speaker believes that this situation is reminiscent of the tech and telecom bubble in the late 1990s, but this time around, the technologies are ready and costs are low enough for widespread adoption. However, investors are currently running for the hills due to fears of inflation and higher interest rates. The speaker argues that algorithms are driving the market, and their decisions are based on only two variables: the lower the cushion (cash reserves) and the higher the burn (spending), the worse the stock performance. The speaker also emphasizes that the technologies, such as robotics, energy storage, artificial intelligence, blockchain technology, and multi-omic sequencing, which were once considered dreams, are now a reality and will drive economic growth.

    • Market's herd mentality causes volatility for non-benchmark stocksDespite underperforming and facing high valuations, our deep value investment strategy remains committed to long-term innovation and growth potential, believing it will outweigh short-term headwinds.

      The market's reliance on algorithms and benchmarks has led to a herd mentality, causing significant volatility for non-benchmark stocks. Our deep value investment strategy, which focuses on companies sacrificing short-term profitability for long-term innovation, has faced a headwind due to high valuations. However, we believe the revenue growth potential and margin expansion will outweigh this headwind to meet our minimum hurdle rate of return. Despite underperforming in the past 5 years and facing unprecedented interest rate hikes, we remain committed to our investment strategy and are more comfortable now that expectations and valuations are low.

    • Economic uncertainty and volatility continue in 2022Despite short-term challenges, the convergence of multiple technology platforms presents significant investment opportunities in 2022

      We are currently in an environment where economic factors like inflation and interest rates are causing uncertainty and volatility in the markets. The fear of rising interest rates led to a downturn, but the reality of higher rates is expected to continue into 2022. This environment is driven by the Federal Reserve's commitment to keeping interest rates high for an extended period. Despite some positive trends, such as the potential for a female president in Mexico and the resilience of the economy, there are concerns about the validity of economic data and the lack of political will to change course. Looking beyond these short-term challenges, there are significant investment opportunities presented by the convergence of multiple technology platforms. These platforms involve 14 different technologies and have the potential to create explosive growth opportunities. The best example of this is the autonomous taxi industry, which could generate trillions of dollars in revenue in the next decade through the convergence of three of these platforms. Overall, while there are challenges in the current economic landscape, there are also exciting opportunities for those who are able to navigate the changing technological landscape.

    • Technological advancements in healthcare and transportationSignificant changes in healthcare and transportation industries due to convergence of multi omic sequencing, AI, robotics, energy storage, and electric vehicles. Gene editing cures and autonomous electric vehicles are potential game changers. Costs are decreasing, making these technologies more accessible.

      Technological advancements in areas such as multi omic sequencing, artificial intelligence (AI), robotics, energy storage, and electric vehicles are converging to bring about significant changes in various industries, particularly in healthcare and transportation. The combination of these technologies is expected to lead to early cancer diagnosis, gene editing cures for diseases like sickle cell disease, autonomous electric vehicles, and increased productivity through automation. The cost of these technologies is rapidly decreasing, making them more accessible and affordable. AI, in particular, is the catalyst for these advancements due to its dropping training costs. The most life-changing technology is believed to be the ability to cure diseases through gene editing, while the biggest revenue opportunity lies in the convergence of these technologies in industries like healthcare and transportation. Overall, we are in a fertile time for innovation, and these technologies have the potential to significantly impact our lives and the economy.

    • Tesla's Lead in Autonomous Taxi Platform MarketTesla's vast real-world driving data, ability to diagnose and fix issues over the air, upcoming Cybertruck launch, and Elon Musk's ambitious vision make it a leader in the autonomous taxi platform market, expected to reach $8-$10 trillion by 2030.

      The autonomous taxi platform market is expected to reach a massive revenue of $8 to $10 trillion by the turn of the decade, with half of that going to platform companies like Tesla. Tesla's advantage lies in its vast real-world driving data collected from its 5 million robots (Tesla vehicles) and its ability to diagnose and fix issues over the air. The upcoming Cybertruck launch and the shift towards autonomous transportation are also expected to contribute significantly to Tesla's growth, despite potential controversies and volatility. AI experts believe that fully autonomous services are possible, and Tesla's progress in this area is crucial to achieving this goal. Tesla's innovative technology and Elon Musk's ambitious vision make it a leader in the pole position for this opportunity.

    • Elon Musk's Companies Address Global Challenges with Innovative TechnologiesElon Musk's companies, like SpaceX and Tesla, are pushing boundaries to tackle global issues through innovative tech. Musk's focus on safety, perfection, and big ideas, despite challenges, could lead to breakthroughs in connectivity (Starlink), hypersonic flight, and scientific research (Pacific Biosciences).

      Elon Musk's companies, including SpaceX and Tesla, are addressing significant global challenges through innovative technologies. Musk's approach to motivating employees and pushing for regulatory compliance in the development of autonomous vehicles reflects a commitment to safety and perfection. Two major opportunities in the space sector are connectivity through Starlink and hypersonic flight, which could provide internet access to billions of people and significantly reduce travel time between continents, respectively. Musk's track record of big ideas, as showcased in SpaceX and Tesla, demonstrates the potential for groundbreaking advancements, even amidst challenges like recessions and pandemics. One intriguing small company of interest is Pacific Biosciences, which could contribute to significant advancements in scientific research and technology.

    • Long read sequencing technology revolutionizing marketPacBio's long read sequencing technology is becoming more accessible, expected to grow significantly, and set to revolutionize the market with its accuracy, reliability, and comprehensiveness.

      Long read sequencing technology from PacBio, a company that has been gaining ground against its larger competitor Illumina, is set to revolutionize the market with its more accurate, reliable, and comprehensive approach. This technology, which has been too expensive for widespread use until now, is now becoming more accessible and is expected to grow in revenue significantly as it takes the lion's share of the market. Additionally, nuclear energy, which has faced negative sentiment in recent years, is making a comeback as the world reevaluates its cleanest and safest energy sources. Companies like PacBio, which are expanding into Europe and recognizing the potential of the UK's strong AI industry, are poised to make a significant impact in these fields.

    • Bitcoin as a potential digital alternative to goldBitcoin's digital nature sets it apart from gold as a hedge against inflation and deflation, with increasing demand from younger generations leading to outperformance in recent years.

      Bitcoin is a promising investment option for a long-term horizon due to its role as a hedge against both inflation and deflation, and its growing popularity among young investors and institutions. While gold also serves as a hedge against inflation and deflation, Bitcoin's digital nature sets it apart, with increasing demand driven by its novelty and the preference of younger generations. Although both assets have their merits, recent performance suggests that Bitcoin has been outperforming gold. Overall, the potential of Bitcoin as a digital alternative to gold makes it an intriguing investment opportunity for those looking to hold an asset for a decade.

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