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    Most Trump-Leaning Independents: He Shouldn't Be POTUS If Convicted

    en-usOctober 05, 2023

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    • 2024 Presidential Race: Trump vs. Biden - Indictments Impact PerceptionDespite a close race between Biden and Trump, Trump's indictments significantly impact public perception, with most Democrats believing he's done something illegal and many Republicans believing he's done something unethical.

      The 2024 presidential race between former President Trump and President Biden is evenly matched, with around half of registered voters supporting Biden and slightly less for Trump. This dynamic is reminiscent of two incumbents running against each other. However, the unique factor in this contest is that Trump is facing multiple indictments, which a majority of Americans believe indicates that he has done something wrong, either illegally or unethically. This belief is highly partisan, with a vast majority of Democrats believing Trump has done something illegal, and a significant number of Republicans believing he has done something unethical. The investigations into Trump's actions are a significant factor in the public's perception of the candidates.

    • Independents hold negative views towards both Trump and Biden40% of independents believe Trump has done something illegal, and 30% think he's done something unethical. Similarly, 40% believe Biden has done something illegal, and 25% think he's done something unethical but not illegal. Negative partisanship plays a significant role in shaping voter behavior.

      The 2024 presidential race is shaping up to be a tight contest, with a significant number of independents holding negative opinions towards both Trump and Biden. According to the discussion, around 40% of independents believe Trump has done something illegal, and around a third think he's done something unethical. Similarly, 4 in 10 Americans believe Biden has done something illegal, and another quarter think he's done something unethical but not illegal. These numbers reflect the deeply partisan nature of American politics and the role of media ecosystems in shaping public opinion. Despite the lack of concrete evidence, there are ongoing allegations against both candidates. However, it remains unclear how much these poll responses will translate to voter behavior in the upcoming election. Negative partisanship, or the motivation to vote against a candidate rather than for one, is a powerful factor in recent elections. Overall, the race is likely to be influenced by these negative perceptions and the ongoing investigations.

    • Voters express discontent with major party candidates but feel compelled to vote due to third-party impactDespite reservations, voters may feel obligated to choose between Trump and Biden due to third-party candidates' potential influence on the election outcome.

      A significant number of voters express discontent with both major party candidates, Trump and Biden, but feel compelled to vote due to the potential spoiler effect of third-party candidates in the closely contested electoral environment. This disillusionment was evident in interviews with voters who, while expressing reservations about both candidates, acknowledged the potential consequences of a third-party vote. For instance, a Republican and a Democratic leaning independent, when pressed about their preference between Trump and Biden, both indicated reluctance but ultimately signaled they would likely vote for one of the two. However, it's important to note that a substantial portion of voters in each party are not satisfied with their respective nominees. The 2016 election serves as a reminder that third-party candidates can play a decisive role in the outcome, as evidenced by the impact of Jill Stein and Gary Johnson on the electoral college result. While some argue that increased voter turnout in 2020 could also have influenced the outcome, the role of third-party candidates cannot be overlooked in the current political climate.

    • Americans' dissatisfaction and distrust towards the political parties and governmentThe hyperpartisanship in US politics discourages compromise and collaboration, making it hard for people to find common ground on key issues, and affects approval ratings of politicians.

      Many Americans, regardless of political affiliation, share a feeling of dissatisfaction and distrust towards the political parties and the government as a whole. This sentiment is reflected in polling data and public perception. The country's political climate has become increasingly polarized, with people's views on issues such as the economy and criminal conduct becoming more partisan. This hyperpartisanship is detrimental to democracy as it discourages compromise and collaboration. The current state of Congress and the ongoing political battles in Washington only serve to exacerbate this issue. It's important to recognize that this trend is not only affecting the approval ratings of specific politicians, but it's also making it difficult for people to come together and find common ground on key issues.

    • Polarized Government and Ineffective PolicymakingThe current political climate in the US has led to a lack of incentive for bipartisanship, resulting in a sclerotic government and ineffective policymaking due to partisan gerrymandering and a focus on primary challenges instead of appealing to swing voters.

      The current political climate in the US, with both parties believing they can win elections without compromising, has led to a lack of incentive to work across the aisle and a polarized government. This, in turn, results in a sclerotic government where policies and the entire way Washington operates lurch back and forth. The recent events on Capitol Hill, such as the ousting of former Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy by a group of House Republicans, can be attributed to the structural issues of partisan gerrymandering and the focus on primary challenges instead of appealing to swing voters. These factors have created a fragile and seemingly ungovernable Republican majority in the House, contributing to the perception of an ineffective government.

    • Republicans obstructing spending bills in CongressThe chaos caucus in Congress is intentionally preventing the normal legislative process, leading to a government funding standstill, rather than focusing on substantive policy disagreements or progress.

      The House of Representatives, specifically a group of Republicans, are refusing to fulfill their constitutional duty to originate spending bills to fund the government. Instead, they are intentionally obstructing the normal legislative process, leading to a standstill in Congress. This is not about substantive policy disagreements or different forms of conservatism, but rather an effort to prevent any progress from being made. These members of Congress have been referred to as the "chaos caucus," and their actions are deeply polarizing the political landscape. Inflation may be a pressing issue in other areas of life, but in Congress, the focus seems to be on creating chaos and preventing the normal functioning of government.

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