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    Here Lies JVN - Jonathan Van Ness

    enJanuary 09, 2024

    Podcast Summary

    • Exploring Fears and Preparations for the Inevitable: DeathThrough humor and insight, Kathy Burke and her guests discuss various fears and ways to prepare for death, shedding light on the importance of addressing these topics in a lighthearted yet meaningful way.

      The podcast "As We Cheerlead Our Way to the Touchdown Line" with host Kathy Burke explores unique and often humorous perspectives on death-related topics. During this episode, Kathy Burke welcomed guests JB and Jonathan Van Ness, and the conversation touched upon Jonathan's podcast, "Getting Curious," and his lack of a dedicated episode about death. The hosts joked about various fears and ways to prepare for potential disasters, such as tsunamis and home invasions. The episode showcases the hosts' lighthearted yet insightful approach to discussing topics that are often considered taboo, providing an entertaining and thought-provoking listening experience. For those interested in exploring such topics further, they can subscribe to the podcast for ad-free or sign up for a trial with Shopify.

    • Desire for security, control, and peaceful lifeThe speaker expresses a longing for a secure and controlled living environment, experiences frustration with transphobia, and dreams of a peaceful life while cherishing English and American cultures and their food.

      The speaker expresses a desire for security and control in her living environment, going as far as possessing weapons and fantasizing about causing harm. She also shares her experiences of moving to Texas for work and staying there due to the pandemic and personal circumstances. The speaker expresses her frustration with transphobia and longs for a peaceful life, expressing her love for English and American cultures, particularly their food. Despite her current contentment in Texas, she dreams of living in London. The conversation also touches on her love for food, specifically a full English breakfast and sticky toffee pudding.

    • Nostalgia for Taco Bell's Early 2000s Menu ItemsThe speaker fondly remembers and cherishes specific Taco Bell menu items from their childhood, associating them with joy and a desire to live life to the fullest.

      The speaker expresses a deep love and connection to Taco Bell and the specific menu items from their early 2000s, which they fondly remember and wish to experience again. These items include the grilled stuffed burrito, double decker taco, soft shell chicken tacos, Mexican pizza, and Crunchwrap Supreme. The speaker's attachment to these foods stems from childhood experiences and a fear of death, as they value the experience of waking up and living life to the fullest. The speaker's nostalgia for Taco Bell and these specific menu items is so strong that they even jokingly suggest they may have died from a Taco Bell overdose.

    • Exploring Cat Health and Fascination with Cat LongevityThe speaker, Esther, expresses her love for cats, concerns for her cat's health, and fascination with cat longevity. They discuss potential ways to keep cats healthy and share experiences with pets and services like Uber One and BetterHelp Therapy.

      The speaker, Esther, expresses her deep love for cats and her concern for her 10-year-old cat Larry's health. She also shares her fascination with cat longevity and explores potential ways to keep her cats healthy. Esther also mentions her three dogs, all named after queer icons. During the conversation, they discuss Uber One, a membership that saves money on Uber and Uber Eats, and BetterHelp Therapy, an online therapy service. The speaker, Goddess Charlie, mentions feeling stressed but doesn't specify the cause. Overall, the conversation covers various topics, including pets, health, and services that improve daily life.

    • The Importance of Personal Growth and Self-CareInvest in personal growth by addressing mental health concerns and reflecting on how you want to be remembered. Embrace your unique qualities and prioritize self-care.

      Investing time in addressing personal issues, whether it be mental health concerns or other matters, is crucial for overall well-being. This can be done through various means, such as seeking help from professionals like those offered by BetterHelp. The conversation also touched upon the importance of self-reflection and considering how one would like to be remembered. The discussion also highlighted the enjoyment of watching gymnastics and the speaker's admiration for Team GB. Despite expressing a fear of death, the speaker expressed a desire to be remembered as a "hot slut" and to be featured in The Sunday Times. The conversation also touched upon the idea of replacing the irreplaceable and the possibility of Samuel taking over the speaker's role on Queer Eye. Overall, the conversation emphasized the importance of self-care, reflection, and embracing one's unique qualities.

    • Attachment to appearance and societal expectationsPeople's attachment to their appearance and societal expectations can shape self-perception and elicit reactions from others, making changes daunting. Regret for abandoning childhood musical pursuits is common.

      People often become attached to their appearance and the way they are perceived by others. This attachment can cause resistance to change, as it shapes our self-perception and elicits various reactions from those around us. However, the environment and cultural norms can also influence how we present ourselves, leading to alterations in our look. Changing one's appearance can be a daunting prospect, as it brings about shifts in how people react to us and how we react to ourselves. The way we come across in the world significantly impacts our experiences and self-image. Jonathan, for instance, has experimented with his look throughout his life, acknowledging the influence of societal expectations and the potential acceptance of a different appearance in the future. Another common theme that emerged during the conversation was the regret of abandoning musical pursuits in childhood. Despite the initial reluctance, many people later wish they had continued practicing an instrument, recognizing the value and joy it could bring to their lives.

    • Unique funeral plans inspired by natureSpeaker shares his unconventional plans for a sea burial and reincarnation as a shark, reflecting his deep connection to nature and appreciation for its wonders.

      The speaker in this conversation is discussing his unique and unconventional plans for his funeral, which includes a sea burial and reincarnation as a shark. He expresses his deep connection to nature and the Earth, drawing inspiration from various sources such as documentaries and personal growth. The speaker also reflects on the beauty and complexity of the natural world, expressing his appreciation for its wonders and lamenting humanity's impact on it. Additionally, he shares a surprising revelation about his past drug use and how his perspective on nature has influenced his choices. Overall, this conversation highlights the speaker's strong connection to nature and his desire to be a part of it even in death.

    • Finding joy in gardening and new discoveriesConnecting with nature through gardening brings happiness and potential addiction prevention. New discoveries from gardening can broaden our knowledge and deepen our connection to the natural world.

      Connecting with nature, specifically through growing fruits and vegetables, can bring immense happiness and potentially prevent addiction. The speaker shares how tending to plants, especially with the support of a partner, brings her joy and fulfillment. Additionally, she discovered an interesting fact about jalapenos - the stem is actually a flower that grows before the pepper forms. This newfound knowledge came from her gardening experience, further emphasizing the value of connecting with nature. However, the conversation took an unexpected turn when the speaker began discussing her end-of-life plans, suggesting a fungal burial as a less traumatizing alternative to being fed to sharks. She also expressed her desire for Michelle Kwan, the most decorated American figure skater, to attend her funeral. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of finding joy in simple things, like gardening, and the value of new discoveries.

    • Ambassador Kwan's Emotional Expressions and Personal PreferencesAmbassador Kwan shares her disdain for certain English pronunciations, her preference for Vivaldi at her funeral, and her disappointment over a friend's untimely death.

      The speaker in this conversation, who is revealed to be Ambassador Kwan, expresses her strong emotions towards various topics, including language, music preferences, and even her own funeral plans. She shares her disdain for certain pronunciations and vowels in the English language, her desire for a Vivaldi Live Orchestra at her funeral, and her disappointment that her friend, who was set to promote her sitcom, died before it could be released. The conversation also reveals that Ambassador Kwan is a close friend of a writer and producer named Camilla Whitehall, who wrote her eulogy. The speaker's strong emotions and unique perspective add depth to her character and offer a glimpse into her personality.

    • New features on Bumble for better dating experiencesBumble introduces new features to boost compatibility, initiate conversations, and ensure safer dating experiences. The hosts discussed self-confidence, self-love, and leaving a positive impact on the world.

      Bumble is introducing new features to enhance compatibility, start conversations, and ensure safer dating experiences. Meanwhile, the hosts discussed the impact of shows like Queer Eye and the importance of self-confidence and self-love. They also shared their thoughts on their own memorials, expressing unique and unconventional ideas. The conversation then shifted to the importance of passing down knowledge and traditions, even in death, and included some humorous musings about haunting the Trump family. Overall, the discussion touched on themes of self-improvement, love, and the importance of leaving a positive impact on the world.

    • Finding common ground despite differencesDespite our differences, we can connect through shared experiences and values. Sharing stories and finding common ground can lead to meaningful conversations and relationships.

      Despite our differences, we can find common ground and appreciate each other's unique qualities. The speaker and I may not look alike or share the same interests, but we can still connect over shared experiences and values. The speaker expressed a desire to meet loved ones at the pearly gates and mentioned a deep attachment to the movie "Anastasia." I encouraged them to watch it, and we found ourselves agreeing on various topics, including our shared love for certain movies and our disdain for certain negative influences. The speaker also expressed a desire to give back and leave a legacy through charitable giving. Overall, our conversation highlighted the importance of connection and the shared human experience.

    • Discussing a Foundation for the LGBTQ+ CommunityThey discussed creating a foundation offering housing, jobs, training, a salon, yoga studio, and clothing center for the LGBTQ+ community.

      During the conversation, Jonathan and Kathy discussed the idea of starting a foundation for the LGBTQ+ community, inspired by the First Wives Club and its charity for Cynthia. The foundation would provide housing assistance, job placement, job training, a salon, a yoga studio, and a clothing center. Kathy also shared her unique way of including someone in her will, making them watch a movie and write a review, while ensuring verification of the task completion. The conversation then shifted to Anastasia, a movie Kathy believed would surprise Jonathan, and her imagined last words. The conversation ended with Kathy expressing her dislike of goodbyes and promoting her podcast, 6 Feet Under, where they explore real-life death anecdotes.

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