664. Lindsay Walter, 52-Time Marathoner with Alopecia

enAugust 24, 2023

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About this Episode

"A bald head can mean so many different things."

Lindsay Walter is a 52-time marathoner, 4-time 100-mile finisher, and many-time 50K runner. Most recently, the 32-year-old running coach and freelance writer completed Six Days in the Dome: a multi-day, run-as-much-as-you-can event on an indoor track. (She ran 324 miles in the six-day span!) In this conversation, Lindsay recaps the race, and talks about what's next on the run. She also talks about living with alopecia universalis — a condition that caused her to permanently lose all of her body hair at just two years old. Plus, why she wore a wig for years — and what finally convinced her to ditch it for good.

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"This was the happy ending to it all, to all the struggle. But that’s life, right? It wasn’t how the story ended. But believing it was kept me in it."

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"Seeing how many people flew down to Florida on a random weekend in February to cheer for total strangers… How cool is that?!"

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695. Dakotah Lindwurm's 2024 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials Recap

"I knew months ago that was going to be my caption for that post!"

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694. Weini Kelati, American Record Holder in the Half Marathon

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693. Fiona O'Keeffe, 2024 Olympic Marathon Trials Competitor

"I wouldn’t say I’m a favorite in a lot of peoples’ eyes. But it’s the Trials. We’re here to select a team. So I’m going to go for it and see what happens."

Happy Olympic Trials Week! This Saturday, the fastest distance runners in the U.S. will line up in Orlando, FL, racing for their chance to represent Team USA in the marathon at the 2024 Paris Olympic Games. Among those runners will be Fiona O'Keeffe, making her debut at the distance. Fiona runs professionally for Puma, and trains with the Puma Elite coaches Amy and Alistair Cragg. Fiona qualified for the Trials by running a 1:11 half marathon, and now she's ready to see what she can do over the course of 26.2 miles. In this episode, Fiona talks about her training, about the advice Amy Cragg (who won the 2016 Olympic Marathon Trials) has given her, and about her recovery from a staph infection in her ankle last summer.

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The ankle injury that sidelined Fiona last summer (18:45)
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