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    The X

    The X – The Experience – is singlehandedly the most important factor in the success of products, services and entire businesses. The X is hosted by Silicon Valley veterans and product innovation strategists Bryan McClain and Demetrius Madrigal, who bring a combined 30+ years of experience studying human behavior and technology. They’ve been behind the scenes with everyone from unfunded startups to technology giants and have a unique perspective on current events, how they are shaped by the history of human behavior and predict where the industry and the market will move in the future. If you would like to learn more about the team, please visit www.metriclab.com
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    It happened…we tested the Apple Vision Pro and did a full UX review! What we loved, what we liked, and what we disliked. Is it worth it? Listen in to find out.

    It happened…we tested the Apple Vision Pro and did a full UX review! What we loved, what we liked, and what we disliked. Is it worth it? Listen in to find out.

    Bryan and Demetrius spent the morning testing the Apple Vision Pro, explored its capabilities, use cases, and user experience. The guys agreed in some areas but disagreed in others and it led to a lively debate on whether this is the new Apple Newton, a solid core concept that hasn’t found its footing, or the new Tesla Roadster, a luxury product that opens the doors to more mainstream versions in the future. Listen in and let us know what you think! 

     

    Enjoying The X? Did we get it right? Check us out on YouTube and let us know what you think in the comments! https://www.youtube.com/@thexpodcast

    Also, learn more about us and the work that we do at https://metriclab.com/

     

    The X
    enMarch 11, 2024

    AI Video has arrived! Open-AI announces Sora, a ChatGPT-enabled text-to-video generator.

    AI Video has arrived! Open-AI announces Sora, a ChatGPT-enabled text-to-video generator.

    Bryan and Demetrius discuss and debate the newly announced ChatGPT video generator, Sora; that can create realistic and imaginative scenes from text instructions. The guys explore and debate the use of this technology, the current quality of the videos and what this means for the future of video production, movie making, and social media. The guys even make a wager on whether or not this technology could produce a feature film by 2035! 

    Enjoying The X? Did we get it right? Check us out on YouTube and let us know what you think in the comments! https://www.youtube.com/@thexpodcast

    Also, learn more about us and the work that we do at https://metriclab.com/

    The X
    enMarch 04, 2024

    Repost - Special Guest: Brendan Kelley, Former Apple and VMware engineering manager joins The X to talk about the Work From Home movement.

    Repost - Special Guest: Brendan Kelley, Former Apple and VMware engineering manager joins The X to talk about the Work From Home movement.

    The work from home debate continues with companies now putting guardrails around what that means, so we thought it would be fitting to repost our convseration last month about this topic with with special guest, former engineering manager at Apple, Brendan Kelley. Enjoy!

    Bryan and Demetrius with special guest Brendan Kelley discuss the continuing work from home saga and discuss what it means to work for a “remote first” company, how to manage people remotely, what is gained and lost being in the office and what the next few years might bring. The guys also dig into how it affects team dynamics, mental health, and how to strike a balance between working from home and in the office

    Enjoying The X? Did we get it right? Check us out on YouTube and let us know what you think in the comments! https://www.youtube.com/@thexpodcast

    Also, learn more about us and the work that we do at https://metriclab.com/

    The X
    enFebruary 26, 2024

    Disney is making big moves with an investment in Epic Games and partnerships with Warner Brothers Discovery and Fox Sports!

    Disney is making big moves with an investment in Epic Games and partnerships with Warner Brothers Discovery and Fox Sports!

    Bryan and Demetrius discuss Disneys recent 1.5B investment into Epic Games as well as their partnership with Fox Sports and Warner Bros. Discovery to bring all majors sports content together into a single app experience. The guys pull on their experience working in gaming and media to look at these moves and figure out what this means for Disney now and in the future. 

     Enjoying The X? Did we get it right? Check us out on YouTube and let us know what you think in the comments! https://www.youtube.com/@thexpodcast

    Also, learn more about us and the work that we do at https://metriclab.com/

    The X
    enFebruary 19, 2024

    The drone market mystery - are people still buying them?

    The drone market mystery - are people still buying them?

    Bryan and Demetrius explore the world of drones after being one of the most hyped technologies of the past decade. Years later, what are their primary uses and did they become the remote control car of the 1980’s as we anticipated? Also, why aren’t drones delivering burritos to doors? How and why this device went from a toy everyone seemed to be buying to a regulated device that requires government registration.

    Enjoying The X? Did we get it right? Check us out on YouTube and let us know what you think in the comments! https://www.youtube.com/@thexpodcast

    Also, learn more about us and the work that we do at https://metriclab.com/

     

    The X
    enFebruary 12, 2024

    Why is everyone going nuts over the Stanley Quencher Tumbler? We give it a UX review and compare it to offerings from Yeti, Nalgene, and Hydroflask.

    Why is everyone going nuts over the Stanley Quencher Tumbler? We give it a UX review and compare it to offerings from Yeti, Nalgene, and Hydroflask.

    Bryan and Demetrius examine the insane craze and frenzy around the Stanley Quencher Tumblers and explain why it’s happening, do a live UX review of the Tumbler on the show and give their predictions of what the future holds for Stanley and their competitors.

    Enjoying The X? Did we get it right? Check us out on YouTube and let us know what you think in the comments! https://www.youtube.com/@thexpodcast

    Also, learn more about us and the work that we do at https://metriclab.com/

     

    Why are big creators quitting YouTube? We have some thoughts about why it’s happening and how it can get fixed.

    Why are big creators quitting YouTube? We have some thoughts about why it’s happening and how it can get fixed.

    Bryan and Demetrius discuss the recent trend of successful YouTubers announcing that they are quitting their dream jobs. The guys get into the demands of the job and the many parallels between being a successful YouTuber and being a Silicon Valley startup founder. After they break down why it’s happening they discuss what could be done to help fix it.

     

    Enjoying The X? Did we get it right? Check us out on YouTube and let us know what you think in the comments! https://www.youtube.com/@thexpodcast

    Also, learn more about us and the work that we do at https://metriclab.com/

    Rabbit R1 Mobile AI Device - What is it, why is it getting so much hype and is this the next iPhone or the new pet rock?

    Rabbit R1 Mobile AI Device - What is it, why is it getting so much hype and is this the next iPhone or the new pet rock?

    Bryan and Demetrius discuss the hot product kicking off 2024,  Rabbit R1 Mobile AI Device. The guys discuss the details of the product, why these types of devices are starting to show up and how it compares to the voice and AI devices they’ve worked on over the years. 

    Enjoying The X? Did we get it right? Check us out on YouTube and let us know what you think in the comments! https://www.youtube.com/@thexpodcast

    Also, learn more about us and the work that we do at https://metriclab.com/

    Tech layoffs from Google and Amazon! Do they signal the end of an era? It’s time to talk about the field of UX Research and Design.

    Tech layoffs from Google and Amazon! Do they signal the end of an era? It’s time to talk about the field of UX Research and Design.

    Bryan and Demetrius discuss the ongoing conversation about whether or not the field of User Experience Research and Design is dying or evolving and why so many researchers and designers have been laid off in the last year and what this means moving forward.

    Enjoying The X? Did we get it right? Check us out on YouTube and let us know what you think in the comments! https://www.youtube.com/@thexpodcast

    Also, learn more about us and the work that we do at https://metriclab.com/

    The X
    enJanuary 15, 2024

    A New Year means that CES is happening! Survival tips and what to look for in 2024!

    A New Year means that CES is happening! Survival tips and what to look for in 2024!

    Bryan and Demetrius discuss CES 2024, starting off with survival tips such as how to deal with the crowds by timing your arrival and planning out your transportation and what to do about food. The guys then get into what tech trends they’re keeping an eye on at the show (including AI, AR, and the latest TV technologies) and which ones are over hyped. Finally, they reminisce on products from past CES events that made an impact.

    Enjoying The X? Did we get it right? Check us out on YouTube and let us know what you think in the comments! https://www.youtube.com/@thexpodcast

    Also, learn more about us and the work that we do at https://metriclab.com/

    The X team, Bryan and Demetrius provide some cheer with their favorite products of 2023! Learn about the products that nailed the User Experience and find out why most of them were NOT tech products.

    The X team, Bryan and Demetrius provide some cheer with their favorite products of 2023! Learn about the products that nailed the User Experience and find out why most of them were NOT tech products.

    Bryan and Demetrius close out 2023 with their annual favorite things podcast. As usual, neither Bryan nor Demetrius knew what the other person placed on their list and to the shock of both of them, very few tech products were listed. We get into what they are, but more importantly WHY they are our favorite things and what each company was able to do in order to deliver a stellar experience for the user.

    Happy New Year and we are looking forward to seeing you all in 2024!

    Enjoying The X? Did we get it right? Check us out on YouTube and let us know what you think in the comments! https://www.youtube.com/@thexpodcast

    Also, learn more about us and the work that we do at https://metriclab.com/

    Special Guest: Brendan Kelley, Former Apple and VMware engineering manager joins The X to talk about the Work From Home movement.

    Special Guest: Brendan Kelley, Former Apple and VMware engineering manager joins The X to talk about the Work From Home movement.

    Bryan and Demetrius with special guest Brendan Kelley discuss the continuing work from home saga and discuss what it means to work for a “remote first” company, how to manage people remotely, what is gained and lost being in the office and what the next few years might bring. The guys also dig into how it affects team dynamics, mental health, and how to strike a balance between working from home and in the office

    Enjoying The X? Did we get it right? Check us out on YouTube and let us know what you think in the comments! https://www.youtube.com/@thexpodcast

    Also, learn more about us and the work that we do at https://metriclab.com/

    The OpenAI chaos! Three CEOs in 2 weeks! An employee revolt! A brand new board! Plus: how Microsoft forced their hand.

    The OpenAI chaos! Three CEOs in 2 weeks! An employee revolt! A brand new board! Plus: how Microsoft forced their hand.

    Bryan and Demetrius break down the OpenAI drama and discuss what they know about the situation, why it happened, and what they think this means in regard to trust, safety and the future of these systems.

    Enjoying The X? Did we get it right? Check us out on YouTube and let us know what you think in the comments! https://www.youtube.com/@thexpodcast

    Also, learn more about us and the work that we do at https://metriclab.com/

     

    The Cybertruck is Live! Is Tesla’s new electric vehicle a step forward or a waste of resources?

    The Cybertruck is Live! Is Tesla’s new electric vehicle a step forward or a waste of resources?

    Bryan and Demetrius provide quick reactions to the Tesla Cybertruck Delivery Event and debate its utility, design, and try to decide if it’s an eyesore or not that bad. Also, what will be the impact on the market? Will it bring Tesla into more direct competition with the bigger, more established automakers or is it Tesla’s most niche vehicle yet?

    Enjoying The X? Did we get it right? Check us out on YouTube and let us know what you think in the comments! https://www.youtube.com/@thexpodcast

    Also, learn more about us and the work that we do at https://metriclab.com/

    Has the future arrived? What is Humane’s AI Pin and how is Apple involved? Kickoff of season 9!

    Has the future arrived? What is Humane’s AI Pin and how is Apple involved? Kickoff of season 9!

    Bryan and Demetrius kick off season 9 with a discussion around the new AI Pin by Humane  - a company built by former Apple designers that strives to expand beyond the phone and put AI literally on your body and powered by OpenAI.

    Enjoying The X? Did we get it right? Check us out on YouTube and let us know what you think in the comments! https://www.youtube.com/@thexpodcast

    Also, learn more about us and the work that we do at https://metriclab.com/

     

    The X
    enNovember 27, 2023

    We left NASA and started a company in Tech. Part 4: The Final Chapter. The pandemic hit and brought some surprises. The industry shifted and we started the podcast.

    We left NASA and started a company in Tech. Part 4: The Final Chapter. The pandemic hit and brought some surprises. The industry shifted and we started the podcast.

    Bryan and Demetrius conclude their four-part series by discussing what happened when the pandemic hit and how it fundamentally changed the industry we’d been in since our late teens. We started the podcast, our goals shifted, and (once again) the company is looking quite different compared to three years prior.

    Enjoying The X? Did we get it right? Check us out on YouTube and let us know what you think in the comments! https://www.youtube.com/@thexpodcast

    Also, learn more about us and the work that we do at https://metriclab.com/

    Repost: Special guest John Willenborg, founder and CEO of Owl Vans discusses the Adventure Van movement, how Owl Vans took flight, and what it takes to build a successful brand in this new and emerging space.

    Repost: Special guest John Willenborg, founder and CEO of Owl Vans discusses the Adventure Van movement, how Owl Vans took flight, and what it takes to build a successful brand in this new and emerging space.

    In honor of Labor Day and so many people out camping and taking a break, we thought it would be fitting to repost our interview with John Willenborg, the founder and CEO of Owl Vans, a gear design and fabrication company focused on adventure vans. John discusses everything from how he got Owl off the ground, how to grow and scale a hardware business, and what it takes to build a brand people will love. This is an episode not to miss!

    Enjoying The X? Did we get it right? Check us out on YouTube and let us know what you think in the comments! https://www.youtube.com/@thexpodcast

    Also, learn more about us and the work that we do at https://metriclab.com/

     

    We left NASA and started a company in Tech. Part 3: We survived The Great Recession, jumped head-first into the mobile app boom, became the secret go-to research team in the valley, and licensed our own hardware product.

    We left NASA and started a company in Tech. Part 3: We survived The Great Recession, jumped head-first into the mobile app boom, became the secret go-to research team in the valley, and licensed our own hardware product.

    Bryan and Demetrius continue their four-part series with part 3, discussing how they survived the great recession, managed to grab an amazing office for cheap, were a part of the boom in mobile apps, became the go-to research team for Silicon Valley’s most secretive projects, licensed their own hardware product. and grow their client list.

    Enjoying The X? Did we get it right? Check us out on YouTube and let us know what you think in the comments! https://www.youtube.com/@thexpodcast

    Also, learn more about us and the work that we do at https://metriclab.com/

    Gaming Updates! Netflix is developing a Cloud Gaming Service and Baldur’s Gate 3 disrupts AAA games development!

    Gaming Updates! Netflix is developing a Cloud Gaming Service and Baldur’s Gate 3 disrupts AAA games development!

    Bryan and Demetrius dig into some of the latest developments in gaming, starting with Netflix’s reported beta testing of a cloud gaming service. Could gaming solve some of Netflix’s recent woes? Also, Baldur’s Gate has kicked off a debate about setting the standard in AAA games. The guys discuss why it’s neither the game developers nor the gamers who are dictating development processes right now and how that mirrors development in tech.

    Enjoying The X? Did we get it right? Check us out on YouTube and let us know what you think in the comments! https://www.youtube.com/@thexpodcast

    Also, learn more about us and the work that we do at https://metriclab.com/