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    NastyGal Founder: I Was A Stripper! A Shoplifter! Then Built A $400m Business! Sophia Amoruso

    enApril 17, 2023

    Podcast Summary

    • The Profound Impact of Sophia's Early Experiences in the Suburbs of San DiegoSophia's challenging upbringing taught her resilience, independence, and the importance of trusting her own judgment to create a better future for herself.

      Sophia's early experiences in the suburbs of San Diego had a profound impact on her. Despite being born in a beautiful place, she felt isolated and longing for something more. Growing up in an unhappy home with parents who didn't get along, she craved escape. Money was also a source of tension in her household, as her parents worked on commission and faced financial struggles. These early challenges shaped Sophia's ability to adapt to different environments, become independent, and recognize the flaws in authority figures. The experience taught her to trust her own judgment and not rely solely on others for guidance. Overall, Sophia's upbringing influenced her resilience and determination to create a different path for herself.

    • The Power of Self-awareness and Criticism in Shaping SuccessEmbracing self-criticism and acknowledging the influence of upbringing can lead to personal growth and success, as long as it is balanced with a healthy sense of confidence and ambition.

      Sophia's early experience with criticism from her father shaped her into a self-aware and driven individual. Despite her father's constant critique, she recognizes that he did his best with the parenting tools he had. This upbringing led her to constantly examine herself and develop a strong sense of self-criticism, which has both challenged her confidence and acted as a superpower. Sophia's ability to see both sides of a situation and hold herself accountable stems from this internalized drive to do better. However, the challenge arises in distinguishing between self-doubt and ego. Despite her rebellious nature, Sophia's unconventional mindset and curiosity eventually transformed into ambition. Overall, her critical upbringing played a significant role in shaping her into the successful individual she is today.

    • Embracing Uniqueness and Struggles: Reflections from Sophia Amoruso and Steven BartlettSelf-acceptance is crucial, as everyone has their own unique qualities and struggles. Understanding that becoming a well-rounded person is a struggle for everyone helps foster empathy and compassion towards others.

      Everyone has their own unique qualities and struggles. Sophia Amoruso shares her experience of feeling like she was being trained for something mediocre and how she realized she had ADHD later in life. She also mentions her predisposition to depression and how it has affected her. Steven Bartlett highlights the perspective that as children, we are like narcissists because it helps us survive, interpreting everything as being about us. They both acknowledge that becoming a well-rounded person is a struggle for everyone and that there is no direct correlation between parents and personality traits. Sophia's description of being "a little dark" refers to her struggle with depression and her genuine nature. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the importance of self-acceptance and understanding that everyone is unique in their own way.

    • Rising Above Conformity: Sophia Amoruso's Journey to IndependenceEmbrace your uniqueness, find your tribe, and stay true to your values, even if it means going against societal norms.

      Sophia Amoruso had a difficult time fitting into traditional educational environments and struggled with being diagnosed and prescribed medication to deal with her behavior. Despite feeling lost and searching for her place, she remained a creative thinker and refused to conform to societal norms. Sophia's journey of constantly moving from place to place and constantly changing communities allowed her to develop a sense of independence and create her own path. She recognized the importance of finding her own tribe and belonging, even if it meant going against the expectations of others. Ultimately, this experience shaped her into a resilient and unique individual, unwilling to settle for a life that didn't align with her values and interests.

    • Sophia Amoruso's Journey of Growth and Personal ResponsibilityEmbrace past experiences as valuable lessons, prioritize personal growth, and avoid shortcuts in order to maintain autonomy and control over one's life.

      Sophia Amoruso acknowledges her past experiences, including working as a stripper and shoplifting, as crucial lessons that shaped her mindset. She emphasizes the importance of not getting too comfortable in life, as it can hinder personal growth and drive. Sophia's time spent stripping allowed her to gain confidence, be comfortable with her body, and develop entertainment skills. However, she came to realize that taking shortcuts and breaking rules exposes one to authority, limiting autonomy and control over one's life. This realization prompted her to shift her mindset and avoid cutting corners, prioritizing personal responsibility and staying in control of her environment. Sophia's experiences served as reminders to navigate life with integrity and avoid finding oneself in compromising situations.

    • Contrasting paths: From shoplifting to success and from unhealthy to healthyThe anecdote of Sophia Amoruso emphasizes the privileges and risks of engaging in shoplifting, while Steven Bartlett's journey highlights the importance of making ethical choices and taking responsibility for one's actions.

      Sophia Amoruso confesses to engaging in shoplifting activities in her youth, learning from others who actively avoided participating in the capitalistic culture. While she initially saw it as a lazy and political excuse to avoid hard work, she eventually built an online business, starting with stolen items. However, she emphasizes that she never stole from individuals, only from big box retailers. This anecdote highlights the privileges and risks associated with such behavior. In contrast, Steven Bartlett shares his own personal journey of improving his health through a change in diet and the incorporation of superfoods. This conversation ultimately highlights the importance of making ethical choices and taking responsibility for one's actions.

    • Turning Unexpected Circumstances into Entrepreneurial SuccessUnforeseen challenges can sometimes open doors to unexpected opportunities, leading to personal and financial growth.

      Sophia Amoruso's journey into selling vintage clothes was motivated by her need for health insurance due to a preexisting condition. She took on a job in the lobby of an art school to obtain health insurance but had downtime during her three-month waiting period. During this time, she discovered the lucrative business of selling vintage clothes on eBay. Amoruso observed how auction prices for vintage items soared, with customers determining the final prices through bidding. This inspired her to start her own eBay store, initially not with the intention of becoming an entrepreneur, but to achieve financial independence and avoid working for others. This shows that sometimes unexpected circumstances can lead to opportunities for growth and success.

    • The Power of Thinking Outside the BoxChallenging conventional norms and questioning why things are done a certain way can lead to unique and successful outcomes.

      Thinking outside of conventional norms and questioning why things are done a certain way can lead to unique and successful outcomes. Both Sophia Amoruso and Steven Bartlett expressed their challenges with authority and their ability to see through to the truth beyond convention. Sophia's success in her eBay store came from reverse engineering what others were doing but taking it to the next level with her own signature style and resourcefulness. She cared about the copy and photography, which others may have overlooked, and created a spirit of irreverence and edginess in a market dominated by hippy, dippy vintage sellers. Questioning the status quo and approaching things from first principles can lead to remarkable results.

    • The Balance Between Naivety and Convention in Starting and Growing a BusinessLearning from the wisdom and experiences of others can help entrepreneurs avoid mistakes and failure, while still forging their own unique path. Convention and structure are crucial in managing rapid business growth.

      In starting and growing a business, there is a delicate balance between naivety and convention. While naivety can bring innovation and excitement, it can also lead to mistakes and ultimately failure if not tempered with the wisdom of others. Sophia Amoruso and Steven Bartlett both acknowledge that their own naivety and lack of experience had negative consequences for their businesses. They both learned that there are certain things that other successful people have done right, and it is important to learn from them and take what works while still making their own unique path. Additionally, as businesses grow rapidly, there is a need for convention and structure to prevent things from breaking down under the strain.

    • Building a Balanced and Profitable Business: Hiring the Right People and Managing FinancesSuccess in business lies in finding a diverse team that understands emerging technologies and traditional client services, while also managing finances carefully to maintain profitability and growth.

      The success of a business can come from a combination of hiring the right people and understanding both the present and future trends. Steven Bartlett emphasizes the importance of having a balanced organization by hiring a diverse range of individuals, including both younger employees who understand emerging technologies like TikTok, and more experienced workers who are well-versed in traditional client services. On the other hand, Sophia Amoruso highlights the significance of running a profitable business and not overspending, as demonstrated by her early success on eBay. However, she also acknowledges that receiving a large investment can bring both advantages and disadvantages, such as increased complexity and decreased profitability. Ultimately, a business must find a balance between growth and maintaining financial stability.

    • Embracing Self-Doubt: Turning Outsider Perspective into a SuperpowerEmbrace self-doubt as a source of strength and innovation. Feeling like an outsider can lead to unique connections and unconventional learning, propelling personal growth and achievement.

      Sophia Amoruso experienced both success and imposter syndrome throughout her journey. Despite achieving great milestones and receiving recognition, she still felt like she didn't belong and doubted her abilities. This self-doubt fueled her motivation and allowed her to go against the norm, bringing a unique perspective to the table. Feeling like an outsider can actually be a superpower, enabling one to make different connections and learn in unconventional ways. Sophia's story highlights the importance of embracing one's perceived shortcomings and using them as a catalyst for growth and innovation. Rather than removing the self-doubting voice, it can be harnessed as a source of strength and a reminder of the potential to achieve great things.

    • The Impact of Self-Doubt on Decision-Making and Personal GrowthRecognizing and addressing the root causes of self-doubt is essential for building confidence and making informed choices.

      Self-doubt can both slow down decision-making and serve as a catalyst for personal growth. Sophia Amoruso discusses her struggle with making decisions quickly and confidently, attributing it to her tendency to doubt herself. However, she also recognizes that this doubt has prompted her to become more deliberate and critical in her decision-making process. Additionally, she shares her experience of attending a retreat where she delved into the roots of her lack of self-trust, tracing it back to childhood experiences. This conversation highlights the importance of understanding and addressing the underlying causes of self-doubt in order to build confidence and make more informed choices.

    • Embracing Failure: Sophia Amoruso's Journey of Resilience and GrowthOvercoming challenges and criticism, Sophia's ability to persevere and learn from failures serves as an inspiration to embrace setbacks as stepping stones towards personal growth.

      Sophia Amoruso faced a conflation of identities and a series of challenges over a 12-month period. She experienced being both praised and criticized by the media and the public, which took a toll on her mental health. Despite these difficulties, Sophia persevered and continued to move forward. She started another company and maintained her mental health by not dwelling on past failures. She received support from a community of followers and friends who admired her resilience and were inspired by her ability to face adversity publicly. This conversation highlights the importance of embracing failures and using them as opportunities for growth and inspiration.

    • Lack of awareness and strategic decision-making led to the company's downfall.Success can blind leaders to potential issues, emphasizing the importance of strategic decision-making.

      The company's downfall was attributed not only to its overvaluation but also to a lack of understanding on Sophia Amoruso's part. Sophia acknowledges that the $350 million valuation, which seemed like a cause for celebration at the time, turned out to be the "nail in the coffin" for the company. In 2012, the expectation was to reach a billion-dollar valuation in the next round of fundraising. However, Sophia lacked experience in navigating the business landscape and didn't realize the implications of being overvalued. This lack of awareness, combined with the absence of industry veterans and the changing dynamics of the e-commerce era, led to their downfall. The key takeaway is that success can blind leaders to potential issues and the importance of strategic decision-making.

    • Building a Strong Foundation: Success, Value, and Intuition in EntrepreneurshipValidate your idea, focus on customer feedback, and maintain your unique vision. By bootstrapping and overcoming challenges, you can increase your company's value and achieve success in your entrepreneurial journey.

      When starting a company, it is important to validate your idea and achieve some level of success before seeking outside investment. Founders should focus on getting their product in front of potential customers and gathering feedback to determine its value. By bootstrapping and building a strong foundation, founders can increase the value of their company when it comes time to raise funds. Rather than solely optimizing for price, founders should aim for a reasonable valuation that makes their company an attractive acquisition target. It is also crucial for founders to listen to their intuition and maintain their unique vision, even while considering advice from experienced individuals. Through perseverance and the ability to overcome challenges, founders can ultimately achieve success in their entrepreneurial journey.

    • Shifting Focus: From CEO to Early Stage Founder and Brand CreatorSophia Amoruso chooses to prioritize her passion for building and investing in businesses, focusing on supporting fellow founders and avoiding the pressures of external expectations.

      Sophia Amoruso has realized that she is not interested in being the CEO of a big company anymore. She has experienced challenges and difficulties in her previous role and has decided that it's not the job she wants. Instead, she considers herself an early stage founder and a master at creating brands that stand out. She is focused on building and investing in her businesses, such as her entrepreneurship program, Business Class, which she has designed to be self-led and not require a significant amount of her time. Sophia has found satisfaction in helping and supporting other founders, using her expertise and network as her product, and she intends to stay intentional and avoid being dragged by external expectations.

    • Defining Success on Your Own Terms and Pursuing Personal FulfillmentSuccess is not limited to financial gain; it is about prioritizing what truly matters in life and having the courage to pursue one's own unique definition of success.

      Success is not simply about financial gain or external achievements. Sophia Amoruso emphasizes the importance of defining success on one's own terms and considering what truly matters in life. She encourages individuals to think beyond conventional expectations and to trust in their ability to accomplish the seemingly impossible. Sophia believes in the power of "magical thinking" or envisioning a future that surpasses one's wildest imagination. She urges listeners to explore what is meaningful to them and to prioritize those aspects of life, even if they may not align with societal norms. Ultimately, success is about finding and holding onto something significant and personally fulfilling, regardless of how unconventional it may seem.

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    The simplest lifestyle choices are impacting the biggest decisions in a man’s life; entering fatherhood. Dr Michael Eisenberg is a Professor of Urology at Stanford University, and is a male fertility and sexual function specialist In this conversation Michael and Steven discuss topics such as, what is ruining men’s sperm count, the reasons for hair loss, what is causing erectile dysfunction, and the truth about testosterone therapy. (02:02) Why do you do what you do? (02:58) What does reproductive health encapsulate? (04:27) Fertility health is growing (06:14) Researching on fertility issues (06:46) Why are we seeing more infertility? (07:18) Are you concerned about society's fertility issues? (11:14) What chemicals are reducing our sperm count? (13:50) Society measures (14:59) Sperm Quality (20:37) micro plastics affecting sperm count (23:57) Technology and heat fertility damage (30:07) Countries with biggest fertility problems (32:41) Does sitting for long periods affect our sperm count? (33:53) Fertility issues caused by OBESITY (34:46) Alcohol consumption and sperm count (36:32) What you can do to give yourself the best chances of conceiving (39:08) Man or woman, who has the most issues? (40:06) Male testosterone decline (41:31) The impact of exercise on our sperm count (43:04) What does Testosterone do? (45:23) side effects of taking testosterone (48:18) Common symptoms of testosterone use (51:01) Female fertility (51:57) How is Testosterone therapy given? (54:15) Exercise and health impact on testosterone (55:04) Penis average size increasing (57:24) Erectile dysfunction treatments (01:03:58) Pelvic floor strength (01:05:31) What causes cancer in the reproductive system (01:14:20) other male issues Dr Michael is being asked about (01:15:47) Best diets for better fertility (01:24:41) What's next for Dr Michael (01:26:04) biggest concerns (01:27:14) Advice to men who are struggling (01:03:11) Does shock wave therapy work for erectile dysfunction? Follow Michael: Twitter - https://bit.ly/4bazMmQ Watch the episodes on Youtube - https://g2ul0.app.link/3kxINCANKsb My new book! 'The 33 Laws Of Business & Life' is out now - https://smarturl.it/DOACbook Follow me: https://beacons.ai/diaryofaceo Sponsors: NordVPN: https://nordvpn.com/doac - gives you 4 extra months on the 2-year plan. ZOE: http://joinzoe.com with an exclusive code CEO2024 for 10% off Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    Rebel Wilson: I Experimented With Ozempic! Childhood Trauma Was The Reason I Couldn't Lose Weight & ALL The Truth About Sacha Baron Cohen!

    Rebel Wilson: I Experimented With Ozempic! Childhood Trauma Was The Reason I Couldn't Lose Weight & ALL The Truth About Sacha Baron Cohen!
    She’s stolen every scene she’s ever been in, but her hardest role might be being herself Rebel Wilson is an Australian actress and producer best known for her roles in films such as, ‘Bridesmaids’, ‘Pitch Perfect’ and ‘Jojo Rabbit’. In this conversation Rebel and Steven discuss topics such as, her battles with self-esteem and her weight, her malaria vision to be an actress, being a virgin at 35, and the truth about Sacha Baron Cohen. You purchase Rebel’s memoir, ‘Rebel Rising’, here: https://amzn.to/4b2hMeh Follow Rebel: Instagram - https://bit.ly/3JIZ1R6 TikTok - https://bit.ly/4dzvl6O Watch the episodes on Youtube - https://g2ul0.app.link/3kxINCANKsb My new book! 'The 33 Laws Of Business & Life' is out now - https://smarturl.it/DOACbook Follow me: https://beacons.ai/diaryofaceo Sponsors: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/doac Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices