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    E115: The AI Search Wars: Google vs. Microsoft, Nordstream report, State of the Union

    enFebruary 11, 2023

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    • Analyzing Media Sensationalism and OverreactionCritically analyze media narratives and consider different perspectives to avoid being influenced by sensationalized coverage.

      The media tends to be hawkish and sensationalist when it comes to covering certain events. The conversation starts with a father's frustration about his son's phone etiquette, but quickly shifts to a discussion about a balloon that caused a nationwide panic. The two participants debate whether the balloon was deliberately sent or if it was an accident. While one person is more skeptical about its intentions, both agree that the media overreacted and hyped up the situation. They highlight how the media's pursuit of engaging content and live events often leads to exaggerated coverage. This conversation serves as a reminder to critically analyze media narratives and consider alternative perspectives.

    • Examining Conflicting Narratives Surrounding the Nord Stream IncidentThe Nord Stream incident and its alleged involvement by the United States prompts questions about the credibility of official statements and the need for independent verification in media coverage.

      There are conflicting narratives surrounding the Nord Stream story, and it is not being widely covered by the mainstream media. The conversation suggests that the administration and media initially blamed Russia for the explosion of Nord Stream, but it never made sense considering Russia's economic interest in the asset. It is mentioned that veteran journalist Cy Hersh has come forward with a detailed story about how the United States may have been involved in the explosion. While it's challenging to verify the truth, given the reliance on a single source, the conversation leans towards considering Hersh's story plausible. The conversation also highlights past instances where the military denied credible reports, questioning the credibility of official statements.

    • The Complexities and Uncertainties Surrounding Alleged US Involvement in a Potential Act of WarThe potential US involvement in a war against a nuclear-armed country raises significant risks, with both political and media complexities contributing to the uncertainty of the situation.

      The United States' involvement in a potential act of war against a country with nuclear weapons poses a significant risk. While there is no definitive evidence to confirm or deny these allegations, the conversation highlights the possibility of the CIA's knowledge and facilitation of such an act. The bipartisan issue of stopping Nord Stream adds complexity to the situation, with Republicans and Democrats pushing against it. The media's initial focus on blaming Russia without solid evidence raises questions about journalistic integrity. Criticism towards those questioning the official narrative as conspiracy theorists has further muddied the discourse. Ultimately, Seymour Hersh's detailed report provides some credibility to the notion of US involvement, adding to the complexity and uncertainty of the situation.

    • The Nord Stream gas pipeline explosion sparks speculation and uncertainty, with discussions on responsibility, implications, and media influence.Geopolitical issues are complex and uncertain, highlighting the importance of analyzing multiple perspectives and sources of information to gain a better understanding of the truth.

      There is speculation and uncertainty surrounding the explosion of the Nord Stream gas pipeline. While some individuals believe that the US may have been responsible, others argue that it could be Russian sabotage. President Joe Biden referred to it as an intentional act of sabotage, but did not explicitly point fingers at Russia. The conversation also explores the potential implications of Germany's response to the incident and suggests that the US may offer guaranteed energy supply to maintain a sense of ambivalence. Additionally, the conversation highlights the similarities in language used by various media outlets, indicating a possible influence of talking points. Overall, the conversation showcases the complexity and uncertainties surrounding geopolitical issues and the importance of analyzing multiple perspectives and sources of information.

    • The Influence of Political Narratives and Media Outlets on Public OpinionIt is crucial to seek alternative sources of information to access a wider range of perspectives, as political narratives and media outlets can shape public opinion and influence how events are perceived. Additionally, conflicts and tensions may serve as distractions from internal economic challenges, potentially benefiting the military-industrial complex.

      Political narratives and media outlets play a significant role in shaping public opinion and creating a certain perspective on various issues. The repetition of specific talking points and party lines by prestigious outlets can influence how people perceive events and form their own opinions. This emphasizes the importance of seeking alternative sources of information, such as Substack, to access a wider range of perspectives. Additionally, the conversation highlights the potential misalignment between economic interests and foreign policy, as seen in Germany's dilemma regarding the Nord Stream pipeline. Furthermore, it suggests that conflicts and tensions can serve as distractions from internal economic challenges and wealth disparities, potentially benefiting the military-industrial complex. The pursuit of external conflicts may have implications for global power dynamics and military investments.

    • The Hidden Motivations Behind Conflicts and EscalationsUnderstanding the personal anxieties and financial interests that drive conflicts is essential for effectively addressing and navigating them.

      Many conflicts and escalations are driven by individual anxieties and financial interests, rather than a master plan or genuine resolution. The conversation highlights how the desire for conflict often arises from personal dissatisfaction or external incentives, such as the military-industrial complex, media ratings, and energy investments. There is a lack of focus on de-escalation or considering alternatives because it is seen as less profitable. The warning from Dwight D. Eisenhower about the military-industrial complex is mentioned to emphasize the long-standing awareness of these issues. The key takeaway is that understanding these underlying motivations and interests is crucial in order to navigate and address conflicts effectively.

    • Exploring Interviews, Events, and Anti-Establishment Sentiments: A Humorous and Casual Conversation on Self-Expression and Fashion Trends.Embrace your individuality, challenge mainstream norms, and find humor in mocking the establishment. Fashion trends may come and go, but self-expression is timeless.

      The speakers are discussing their experiences with interviews and events, such as the Lex Friedman show and the Vanity Fair Establishment list. They express their anti-establishment sentiments and share anecdotes about their appearances and fashion choices. They joke about creating an anti-establishment conference and suggest mocking the establishment with a tagline and an anti-list. They also discuss the evolution of their personal styles and reflect on past photos of themselves. Overall, this conversation highlights their casual and humorous exchanges while touching on themes of self-expression, rejecting mainstream norms, and the fleeting nature of fashion trends.

    • The Potential Disruption of Chat GPT in Traditional Information RetrievalWhile Google has made advancements in data presentation, chat GPT offers natural language responsiveness that can provide specific answers and alternative ways of presenting information, although cost is a consideration.

      Google's AI capabilities have been predominantly focused on improving internal problems and optimizing various aspects of their platform, such as data center energy efficiency and ad optimization. However, the emergence of chat GPT as an alternative for search has revealed a potential disruption in traditional information retrieval methods. While Google has made advancements in presenting data in smarter and quicker ways, such as through one-box answers and visual displays, this new modality is not fully encompassing and may not cater to all user preferences and needs. Nevertheless, natural language responsiveness, similar to chat GPT, can be a valuable tool for providing specific answers and alternative modes of presenting information. Additionally, the cost of implementing such technology compared to chat GPT may be a factor to consider for Google.

    • Reducing the Cost of Chat GPT Models: A Game-Changing Potential for CompetitorsAdvancements in technology and infrastructure have the potential to significantly decrease the cost of running chat GPT models, posing a challenge to Google's dominant position in the market.

      The cost of running chat GPT models for search queries needs to decrease significantly in order to compete with Google. Currently, Google's search costs about 2.5 cents per search, while running the GPT-3 model costs around 30 cents per result. This 10x higher cost makes it economically challenging for chat GPT solutions to scale and be competitive in the market. However, with advancements in compute hardware, software optimization, data optimization, and cloud infrastructure, there is potential for a 10x reduction in the cost of running these models. Additionally, the ability to run these models at scale will become more feasible as silicon technology improves and energy costs decrease. This game-changing potential poses a challenge to Google's dominant position, as competitors like Microsoft invest in chat GPT technology to force Google to degrade the quality of their business model.

    • Google's Strategy to Secure Market Dominance through Increased Payments to PublishersGoogle plans to maintain its stranglehold on search by doubling the amount it pays publishers for exclusive access to search traffic, potentially hindering competition and solidifying its market share.

      Google's strategy to maintain its dominance in search is to double its traffic acquisition cost (TAC). By increasing the amount Google pays to publishers for exclusive access to search traffic, they can protect their core stranglehold on search and keep competitors at bay. This move would not only secure Google's market share, but also put other companies on their heels, as they would struggle to match the higher payments to publishers. Additionally, doubling the TAC would position Google as a reliable and valued partner for publishers, while potentially limiting the data sharing with other competitors. Overall, this strategy allows Google to maintain control over search and potentially deter the erosion of its market share.

    • Adapting the Monetization Model for Search Engines in the Age of AIAs AI technology advances, search engines like Google may need to find new ways to monetize AI-generated responses, while ensuring user satisfaction by providing direct and satisfactory answers.

      The monetization model for search engines, like Google, may need to adapt as AI technology evolves. Currently, Google's success in monetization is based on providing a list of links in response to search queries, with paid links included. However, with the advancement of AI, users may no longer need a list of links, but rather a direct answer to their query. This raises the question of how advertising can be incorporated into AI-generated responses without compromising the quality of the answer. Additionally, the conversation highlights the importance of providing satisfactory answers to users, as indicated by the bounce back rate. Ultimately, the key insight is that search engines may need to find innovative ways to monetize AI-generated answers while maintaining user satisfaction.

    • Establishing a Competitive Moat: A Strategic Approach for Google's Market DominanceBy leveraging its resources and developing exclusivity agreements with publishers, Google can protect its market position, maintain a competitive advantage, and prioritize shareholder value.

      Google should proactively establish a competitive moat to protect its market dominance. By leveraging its massive cash flow and investments, Google can develop a new agreement with publishers, encouraging their exclusivity to Google's AI agents. This tactic would prevent other models from accessing valuable content and reduce the risk of litigation. Currently, Google pays publishers 70 cents on every dollar, allowing them to maintain a strong competitive advantage. As the open internet becomes less significant, Google needs to focus on defending its market position. This approach is crucial for Google's shareholders, board of directors, and senior executives to prioritize. Ultimately, establishing a stronger customer relationship and controlling content contribution are vital elements of building a competitive moat for Google.

    • Concerns and Considerations surrounding Language Models and Data UsageLanguage models like Google's search engine raise concerns about fair use and attribution of original content, as well as the limitations of tokenization and the requirement for truly transformative output.

      There are concerns surrounding the use of data and content in language models (LLMs) like Google's search engine. LLMs generate responses based on statistical models and data synthesis, which may lead to multiple interpretations and probabilities. However, there is a question of fair use and attribution when using others' original content. It is argued that LLMs should provide citations and pay commissions to the original content creators if their data is used. The debate also considers the limitations of tokenizing content into entire sentences, as it may hinder the quality and usefulness of the product. Additionally, the concept of transformation is crucial in determining fair use, and simply rewriting content may not qualify as transformative.

    • The Potential of AI Assistants in Various ApplicationsAI assistants can analyze complex data, provide insights, generate formulas, and revolutionize industries by replacing human operators, making tasks easier and more efficient.

      AI assistants have the potential to become personal digital helpers in various applications. The conversation highlights how AI can analyze and explain complex data, such as Excel spreadsheets, providing valuable insights and even generating formulas that would be challenging for humans to decipher. These AI interfaces could be voice-based, allowing users to verbally interact and ask for assistance in accomplishing tasks. The conversation also touches on the possibility of AI replacing human call center operators and becoming a powerful tool in various industries. Overall, the conversation suggests that AI assistants have the potential to revolutionize the way we interact with technology, making tasks easier and more efficient.

    • The Rise of AI-Driven Economic ProductivityLeveraging AI tools and precision testing will help large companies compete with industry leaders, disrupting middle-man businesses while benefiting customers with reduced costs and increased profits.

      AI-driven economic productivity is becoming the new normal. With the advancements in technology, large companies can now compete with industry leaders by leveraging AI tools and a smaller team of engineers. The ability to write code and perform end-to-end testing with precision will enable businesses to quickly develop and launch innovative solutions. This shift towards AI-driven productivity will disrupt middle-man businesses that lack a competitive advantage, as costs related to human capital can be reduced, allowing for greater investment in traffic acquisition and innovation. Ultimately, this increase in economic productivity will benefit end customers by lowering costs and increasing profits. It highlights the importance of technology and innovation in driving economic growth.

    • Exploring the Impact of AI and Automation on Startups and ProductivityAI and automation have the potential to transform the startup landscape, increase productivity, and revolutionize various industries by enabling more efficient programming, creating niche startups, and revolutionizing fields like music and media.

      Advancements in AI and automation have the potential to transform the startup landscape and increase productivity. With technologies like Copilot, programming becomes more efficient and the need for developers may diminish. However, this does not mean that business software is going away or that engineers will become obsolete. Instead, engineers may become more productive with AI assistance. The conversation also highlights the possibility of more niche startups and disruptive industries emerging, driven by software and AI. Additionally, AI has the potential to revolutionize fields like music and media, enabling the creation of unique mashups and personalized content. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the opportunities and impacts that AI and automation can bring to various industries.

    • The Impact of AI on Creative Industries: Democratizing Content Creation and Empowering Individual Creators.Advancements in AI are transforming the creative industry, making content creation more accessible and empowering individual creators while challenging the dominance of big production houses. Fair use and proper attribution are crucial in this evolving landscape.

      Advancements in technology, particularly Artificial Intelligence (AI), are revolutionizing the creative industry. With the aid of AI, content creation is becoming more accessible and democratized, challenging the monopoly held by big production houses. The ability to generate real-time scenes and script changes while writing a movie script opens up opportunities for aspiring filmmakers working on a limited budget. This shift not only applies to movies but also extends to music, video games, and other forms of media. Consumers themselves can now create content for their own enjoyment, similar to how anyone can create a song or go viral on platforms like TikTok. The conversation also touches on the importance of acknowledging the contributions of individual creators, highlighting the need for fair use and proper attribution in the evolving landscape of content publishing.

    • Uniting Content Providers Against the Threat of AIContent providers must join forces and take proactive measures to protect their rights and adapt to the advancements of AI technology in order to maintain their value and profitability.

      Content providers need to unite and fight for their rights in order to survive. With the rise of AI technology and the ability to aggregate and synthesize information from multiple sources, there is a risk of content creators losing value and being overshadowed. It is crucial for content providers to come together as a united front, similar to how the music industry fought for their rights. The technology advancements may lead to a decline in revenue and profit, putting pressure on existing business models. In order to adapt and thrive, companies like Google should proactively cannibalize their own business before it is cannibalized for them. Ultimately, the value of being a novel content producer will increase, but the ease of creating content through AI will also increase.

    • The Opportunities and Challenges of YouTube, AI-generated Content, and Technology MonopoliesIt is crucial to ensure compensation for content creators while addressing copyright infringement and the evolving landscape of technology monopolies in order to understand and navigate the implications and advancements of AI-generated content.

      The success of platforms like YouTube and the emergence of AI-generated content present both opportunities and challenges in the digital space. One crucial aspect is the need to ensure that content creators are compensated for their work, as seen in the case of YouTube's ability to monetize stolen content through the use of content ID and watermarking. However, the conversation also highlights the potential risks and controversies surrounding AI-generated content, such as copyright infringement by companies like Stable Diffusion. Additionally, the conversation underscores the changing landscape of technology monopolies with Microsoft's rise in market share, potentially leading to increased competition among tech giants. As more lawsuits emerge and AI continues to evolve, it is important to closely monitor the dynamics and implications of these advancements.

    • The Looming Debt Crisis: Ballooning Obligations and Limited SolutionsThe United States faces a critical debt crisis due to increasing financial obligations. Significant cuts to Social Security and Medicare or massive tax hikes are necessary to avoid dire economic consequences.

      The state of the union address revealed a concerning long-term cycle of escalating debt and financial obligations for the United States. Despite Biden's claim that Republicans want to cut Social Security and Medicare, the truth is that both sides of the aisle oppose any reductions in these programs. However, maintaining these major expense commitments will lead to a runaway debt scenario, ultimately forcing the US to default. The only options to avoid this are either significant cuts to Social Security and Medicare or massive tax hikes, both of which come with severe consequences. Ballooning costs and liabilities, including private pensions needing federal bailouts, will further exacerbate the situation. The US must find a way to navigate this steepening curve and address its debt crisis to avoid dire economic consequences.

    • Biden's Strategy: Emulating Clinton and Focusing on Middle-Class ConcernsTo secure re-election, Biden plans to mirror Clinton's tactics, prioritizing small-scale issues that resonate with the middle class and reinforcing his image as a defender of popular entitlement programs.

      Biden's strategy for his re-election in 2024 involves emulating Bill Clinton's approach after losing the midterms in 1994. This strategy includes focusing on small ball politics, such as curbing ticket master fees and fixing right turn red lights, to appeal to regular middle-class people. Additionally, Biden aims to position himself as the defender of entitlement programs, which are popular among the public. The conversation also highlights the importance of avoiding entitlement reform as a Republican, as it can be a detrimental issue that may cost votes. Furthermore, the conversation briefly touches on the idea of a wealth tax, with the agreement that it may be acceptable for billionaires but not for centimillionaires or decimillionaires. Overall, it emphasizes the need for strategic political maneuvering in order to gain support and maintain public trust.

    • A Comprehensive Approach to Addressing and Resolving Economic Challenges in the United StatesBy reducing energy costs and increasing energy capacity through fusion and solar power, the US can stimulate economic growth, create new industries and jobs, while also working towards mitigating debt and entitlement tax problems. A balanced and strategic approach is crucial to navigating these complex economic issues effectively.

      Addressing and resolving the economic challenges faced by the United States requires a comprehensive approach. The American people are concerned about the excessive spending on wars, wasteful investments, and the enrichment of special interests while their entitlement programs are at risk. It is crucial to zoom out and consider the long-term implications of these issues, rather than focusing solely on short-term gains or election cycles. One potential solution lies in significantly reducing the cost of energy and increasing energy capacity through technologies like fusion and solar power. By doing so, the economy can grow, creating new industries, jobs, and ultimately mitigating the debt and entitlement tax problem. However, addressing the technical challenges, such as scalable storage for energy, is important for achieving abundant and zero-cost energy. Moreover, it is important to recognize that imposing wealth taxes may result in a loss of the tax base as demonstrated by France's exodus of millionaires. Therefore, a balanced and strategic approach is necessary to navigate these complex economic issues effectively.

    • High Budget Per Capita in San Francisco Leads to Population and Business ExodusExcessive spending and high tax rates in San Francisco have driven people and businesses away, emphasizing the need for a sustainable solution to address the budget and prevent further economic decline.

      The budget per capita in San Francisco is alarmingly high compared to other states and the federal government. With a per capita budget of $18,000, San Francisco surpasses every state except for Oregon and North Dakota. This excessive spending has led to a population and business exodus in the city. In contrast, Miami, Florida has no state income tax and relies on property and sales taxes to make their budget work, with a population of 880,000. The conversation highlights that increasing tax rates may be a short-term solution, but if the budget per citizen isn't brought in line, it will only cause the tax base to leave. This economic reality has been observed in other countries and cities throughout history. Therefore, a sustainable solution or an energy miracle is necessary to address this issue.

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    https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7057/Who-will-win-the-2024-Democratic-presidential-nomination

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    https://www.newsweek.com/putin-houthis-cruise-missiles-russia-yemen-1919434

    https://www.ft.com/content/d431b97f-7431-4066-bd80-9dab3b215fea

    https://www.axios.com/2024/06/30/top-aides-shielded-biden-white-house-debate

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/stephanopoulos-snaps-nikki-haley-saying-biden-wont-finish-term-excuse-me-how-do-you-know

    https://x.com/TheKevinDalton/status/1806669560852218045

    https://x.com/0rf/status/1807620571934478683

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-social-media-laws-florida-texas

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/22-277_d18f.pdf

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-justice-voting-decisions-2024-rcna151268

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/22-451_7m58.pdf

    https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/06/supreme-court-strikes-down-chevron-curtailing-power-of-federal-agencies

    https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-supreme-court-hear-challenge-texas-age-verification-online-porn-2024-07-02

    https://x.com/noalpha_allbeta/status/1808265251202167183

    https://x.com/ewarren/status/1808241509738631388

    https://www.axios.com/2019/06/01/supreme-court-justices-ideology

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/06/02/supreme-court-justice-math-00152188

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

    https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/07/justices-rule-trump-has-some-immunity-from-prosecution

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/qanon-shaman-sentenced-3-years-role-capitol-riot-rcna5825

    https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1808558981457326368

    Presidential Debate Reaction, Biden Hot Swap?, Tech unemployment, OpenAI considers for-profit & more

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    (0:00) Bestie intros!

    (1:54) Debate recap and analysis: Hot swap incoming?

    (16:53) Subverting democracy, power grab, Democratic party shakeup

    (36:43) Why tech job postings are down significantly from pre-COVID levels

    (42:43) OpenAI considering for-profit conversion

    (54:11) The problem with safety-focused AI startups

    (1:03:20) EU charges Microsoft with antitrust violations for bundling Teams into Office

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    https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7057/Who-will-win-the-2024-Democratic-presidential-nomination

    https://polymarket.com/event/will-biden-drop-out-of-presidential-race?tid=1719589320811

    https://youtu.be/R6hJh-OwoZw

    https://x.com/KellyO/status/1806505436457189594

    https://x.com/WesternLensman/status/1806660589315658003

    https://x.com/stoolpresidente/status/1806496453545586779

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/IHLIDXUSTPSOFTDEVE

    https://www.theinformation.com/articles/openai-ceo-says-company-could-become-benefit-corporation-akin-to-rivals-anthropic-xai

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-06-19/openai-co-founder-plans-new-ai-focused-research-lab

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMnkqY98Cyo

    https://x.com/benioff/status/1805664701298491623

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwQMMzoeH9s

    https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1806739920255320347

    In conversation with President Trump

    In conversation with President Trump

    (0:00) Bestie intros: Big house talk!

    (1:37) Economy: Regulation, taxes, tariffs, taming inflation, de-dollarization

    (12:02) Federal debt: growth, spend control, where to cut, role of energy, nuclear

    (20:22) Foreign policy: Ukraine/Russia

    (25:05) Foreign policy: Israel/Palestine

    (28:13) Abortion: Stance on a national ban

    (31:09) Foreign policy: China

    (32:33) COVID: Origins, Fauci relationship, deep state, bad deals

    (39:39) Border: Wall, immigration, H-1Bs, recruiting global talent

    (46:07) JFK Files: Full release, importance of transparency

    (48:06) Debate prediction

    (50:15) Post-interview debrief

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    https://x.com/tyler/status/1803872859938549920

    https://x.com/cameron/status/1803876953860247831

    https://x.com/LHSummers/status/1802097688269181436

    https://x.com/davidsacks/status/179888324567070746

    Elon gets paid, Apple's AI pop, OpenAI revenue rip, Macro debate & Inside Trump Fundraiser

    Elon gets paid, Apple's AI pop, OpenAI revenue rip, Macro debate & Inside Trump Fundraiser

    (0:00) Bestie intros: bringing up the energy!

    (8:48) Trump fundraiser recap

    (23:16) Elon's comp package approved by shareholders

    (40:12) Apple announces "Apple Intelligence" and ChatGPT deal at WWDC

    (50:17) OpenAI reportedly hits a $3.4B revenue run rate

    (1:05:26) Macro debate: State of the US economy?

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    Referenced in the show:

    https://www.instagram.com/tim.naki

    https://x.com/eoghan/status/1799161733766062545

    https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1800979079472288145

    https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1797086962626494840

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1801084780035154058

    https://x.com/jhall/status/1795794521604718814

    https://fortune.com/2024/06/10/elon-musk-pay-package-tesla-lawyers-delaware-chancery-payout-stock-award-56-billion

    https://companiesmarketcap.com

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXeOiIDNNek

    https://x.com/chiefaioffice/status/1801022115426009309

    https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=%2Fg%2F11khcfz0y2&hl=en

    https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=%2Fg%2F11khcfz0y2&hl=en

    https://www.bls.gov/charts/consumer-price-index/consumer-price-index-by-category-line-chart.htm

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FEDFUNDS

    https://www.jpmorgan.com/insights/outlook/economic-outlook/jobs-report-may-2024

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CES0500000003

    https://www.warren.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2024.06.10%20Letter%20to%20Fed.%20re%20interest%20rates.pdf

    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/07/jobs-report-may-2024-us-job-gains-totaled-272000-in-may.html

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/JTSJOL

    https://x.com/VinnyLingham/status/1801129023168454907

    https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/1aw5bbb/world_economy_on_nvidias_shoulders

    https://www.instagram.com/stocktradingmemes/p/C3qer-sSfb0/?img_index=1

    https://x.com/jameslavish/status/1801248976911634648

    https://x.com/peterfenton/status/1801300735520608529

    DOJ targets Nvidia, Meme stock comeback, Trump fundraiser in SF, Apple/OpenAI, Texas stock market

    DOJ targets Nvidia, Meme stock comeback, Trump fundraiser in SF, Apple/OpenAI, Texas stock market

    (0:00) Besties intros!

    (2:10) Responding to recent media coverage

    (17:58) DOJ/FTC strike deal to target Nvidia, OpenAI, and Microsoft

    (32:40) Meme stocks are back: Keith Gill aka Roaring Kitty resurfaces, disclosing nine figure position in GameStop

    (58:36) Citadel and BlackRock back TXSE to take on NYSE and Nasdaq

    (1:02:34) Apple to announce OpenAI iPhone deal at WWDC

    (1:09:07) Science Corner: Alarming ocean temps continue, what to expect for hurricane season

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    Referenced in the show:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQQhAg0mfF8

    https://x.com/vkhosla/status/1769529054955446533

    https://x.com/vkhosla/status/1796293773389127987

    https://x.com/shaunmmaguire/status/1796415146077954329

    https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/1798100723617698097

    https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1798779830521000426

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/05/technology/nvidia-microsoft-openai-antitrust-doj-ftc.html

    https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/ftc-opens-antitrust-probe-of-microsoft-ai-deal-29b5169a

    https://companiesmarketcap.com

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9cO3-MLHOM

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/29/newsom-california-artifical-intelligence-regulations-00160519

    https://www.reddit.com/user/DeepFuckingValue

    https://www.wsj.com/finance/regulation/e-trade-considers-kicking-meme-stock-leader-keith-gill-off-platform-f2003ec4

    https://x.com/TheRoaringKitty/status/1789807772542067105

    https://www.google.com/finance/quote/GME:NYSE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-VO6dtFRes

    https://www.wsj.com/finance/regulation/keith-gills-gamestop-trades-pose-conundrum-for-market-cops-70cc5301

    https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/GME/gamestop/revenue

    https://www.wsj.com/finance/stocks/gamestop-burned-andrew-left-in-2021-hes-betting-against-the-stock-again-4377cecb

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/18/business/melvin-capital-gamestop-short.html

    https://www.instagram.com/tim.naki/reels

    https://www.wsj.com/finance/regulation/new-texas-stock-exchange-takes-aim-at-new-yorks-dominance-e3b4d9ba

    https://listingcenter.nasdaq.com/assets/Board%20Diversity%20Disclosure%20Five%20Things.pdf

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-06-05/why-is-apple-aapl-teaming-up-with-openai-both-companies-need-each-other

    https://x.com/leonsimons8/status/1793319395080520036

    Trump verdict, COVID Cover-up, Crypto Corner, Salesforce drops 20%, AI correction?

    Trump verdict, COVID Cover-up, Crypto Corner, Salesforce drops 20%, AI correction?

    (0:00) Bestie Intros: Jason's first show for his new production company

    (2:15) Why Sacks and Chamath are hosting a Trump fundraiser

    (18:40) House COVID investigation: findings, cover-up, what's next?

    (41:36) The Deep State Problem: unelected bureaucrats running three letter agencies for decades

    (53:04) Crypto Corner with Chamath

    (1:04:15) State of SaaS: Salesforce drops 20%, market teetering

    (1:20:10) Trump verdict: guilty on 34 counts of falsifying business records

    (1:37:36) Are we seeing an AI correction?

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    Referenced in the show:

    https://oversight.house.gov/release/new-select-subcommittee-report-recommends-ecohealth-alliance-president-debarred-and-criminally-investigated-exposes-failures-in-nih-grant-procedures

    https://oversight.house.gov/release/hearing-wrap-up-nih-repeatedly-refutes-ecohealth-alliance-president-dr-peter-daszaks-testimony-tabak-testimony-reveals-federal-grant-procedures-in-need-of-serious-reform

    https://www.axios.com/2021/07/20/fauci-rand-paul-wuhan-institute

    https://oversight.house.gov/release/breaking-hhs-suspends-funding-and-proposes-formal-debarment-of-ecohealth-alliance-cites-evidence-from-covid-select-report

    https://oversight.house.gov/release/breaking-hhs-to-debar-dr-peter-daszak-president-of-ecohealth-alliance

    https://x.com/emilyakopp/status/1795482121739354552

    https://x.com/R_H_Ebright/status/1795454118594568312

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGxSlW0NrB4

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/dual-use-research/feds-lift-gain-function-research-pause-offer-guidance

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-flu-virus-risk-worth-taking/2011/12/30/gIQAM9sNRP_story.html

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3484390

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30418-9/fulltext

    https://oversight.house.gov/release/new-covid-select-memo-details-allegations-of-wrongdoing-and-illegal-activity-by-dr-faucis-senior-scientific-advisor

    https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/national-deficit

    https://x.com/KatherineEban

    https://x.com/emilyakopp

    https://www.semafor.com/article/05/28/2024/a-dying-empire-led-by-bad-people-poll-finds-young-voters-despairing-over-us-politics

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvQTXAgtA6s

    https://s23.q4cdn.com/574569502/files/doc_financials/2025/q1/CRM-Q1-FY25-Earnings-Press-Release-w-financials.pdf

    https://www.investors.com/news/economy/federal-reserve-core-pce-inflation-gdp-q1-jobless-claims-sp-500

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/05/30/nyregion/trump-trial-verdict

    https://www.google.com/finance/quote/DELL:NYSE

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-05-30/us-gdp-grew-at-softer-pace-as-spending-inflation-marked-down

    Scarlett Johansson vs OpenAI, Nvidia's trillion-dollar problem, the "vibecession," plastic in our balls

    Scarlett Johansson vs OpenAI, Nvidia's trillion-dollar problem, the "vibecession," plastic in our balls

    (0:00) Bestie intros: Recapping "General AI Hospital"

    (2:46) Scarlett Johansson vs. OpenAI

    (14:37) OpenAI's novel off-boarding agreements, ex-employee equity problem, and safety team resignations

    (25:35) Nvidia crushes earnings again, but it faces a trillion-dollar problem

    (40:05) Understanding why economic sentiment is so negative among US citizens despite positive data

    (1:02:36) New study shows plastics in testicles

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    Referenced in the show:

    https://x.com/BobbyAllyn/status/1792679435701014908

    https://x.com/sama/status/1790075827666796666

    https://openai.com/index/how-the-voices-for-chatgpt-were-chosen

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/05/22/openai-scarlett-johansson-chatgpt-ai-voice

    https://x.com/SydSteyerhart/status/1792981291266138531

    https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/351132/openai-vested-equity-nda-sam-altman-documents-employees

    https://x.com/sama/status/1791936857594581428

    https://x.com/ilyasut/status/1790517455628198322

    https://x.com/janleike/status/1790603862132596961

    https://x.com/janleike/status/1791498184671605209

    https://openai.com/index/openai-announces-leadership-transition

    https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/nvidia-announces-financial-results-for-first-quarter-fiscal-2025

    https://www.google.com/finance/quote/INTC:NASDAQ

    https://www.morningstar.com/stocks/nvidia-2023-vs-cisco-1999-will-history-repeat

    https://www.fool.com/investing/2024/03/06/is-nvidia-doomed-to-be-the-next-cisco-what-investo

    https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/nvidia-and-the-cautionary-tale-of-cisco-systems.379022

    https://chamath.substack.com/p/2023-annual-letter

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2024/03/23/summers-inflation-reached-18-in-2022-using-the-governments-previous-formula

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/22/poll-economy-recession-biden

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CCLACBW027SBOG

    https://x.com/KariLake/status/1792986501820850333

    https://www.stlouisfed.org/on-the-economy/2024/apr/how-big-mac-index-relates-overall-consumer-inflation

    https://www.google.com/finance/quote/MCD:NYSE

    https://www.wsj.com/economy/gdp-and-the-dow-are-up-but-what-about-american-well-being-87f90e6d

    https://www.consumerreports.org/health/food-contaminants/the-plastic-chemicals-hiding-in-your-food-a7358224781

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2605.2007.00837.x

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12708228

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7559247

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21524797

    https://academic.oup.com/toxsci/advance-article/doi/10.1093/toxsci/kfae060/7673133

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6yuYkfNh-k

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYQjShJxCtM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_4jrMwvZ2A

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