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    #604: Master Investor Ed Thorp on How to Think for Yourself, Mental Models for the Second Half of Life, How to Be Inner-Directed, How Basic Numeracy Is a Superpower, and The Dangers of Investing Fads

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    enJune 28, 2022

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    Edward O. Thorp (@edwardothorp) is the author of the bestseller Beat the Dealer, which transformed the game of blackjack. His subsequent book, Beat the Market, coauthored with Sheen T. Kassouf, influenced securities markets around the globe. He is also the author of A Man for All Markets: From Las Vegas to Wall Street, How I Beat the Dealer and the Market.

    Edward was one of the world’s best blackjack players and investors, and his hedge funds were profitable every year for 29 years. He lives in Newport Beach, California.

    You can find our first conversation here.

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    [06:39] The value of long-term thinking and the price of short-term thinking

    [07:57] What is a common stock warrant?

    [09:52] Why are people generally poor at taking longer term (or alternative) perspectives?

    [11:08] Conversing about numeracy and common misunderstandings

    [15:00] How to become more numeracy literate

    [20:18] It’s Raining Man

    [22:31] The Rule of 72

    [26:14] Making the best financial decisions with unknown variables

    [35:57] How to have fun learning about probability and statistics

    [37:47] How to get an edge in hedge fund investing (with book recommendations)

    [46:23] Ed’s methods for losing (or maintaining) weight and looking 60 in spite of being almost 90 years old

    [53:38] Favorite beer

    [55:03] Music as stress reduction

    [56:02] Avoiding unnecessary risks

    [1:04:12] The age-guessing experiment

    [1:06:17] Other-directed vs. inner-directed and takeaways from The Lonely Crowd by David Riesman

    [1:14:35] How an 89-year-old maintains hair growth

    [1:17:20] Using scrap time

    [1:19:45] A big change in Ed’s later life that increased its quality

    [1:22:16] New reflections, future hopes, and parting thoughts

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    🔑 Key Takeaways

    • Being able to think long-term and having a good understanding of numbers are important skills for understanding the scientific world.
    • Developing an understanding of statistics, probability and game theory can help people make more informed decisions. Reading 'Bad Science' by Ben Goldacre and looking into Schaum's Outline series can help people gain a better understanding of these topics.
    • Learning shortcuts and tricks, such as the 'Rule of 72' and a method to determine the day of the week for any date, can help students remember dates and calendar days without having to look at a calendar.
    • Investments can have huge long-term growth opportunities, but you should also be aware of short-term speed bumps and have enough capital to wait them out.
    • Financial planning is important for making the most of resources and ensuring a long life span.
    • Hedge funds can be a great investment option for tax-exempt investors, such as universities and endowment funds. Games and activities are also a great way to develop numeracy skills.
    • Recording your weight can be an effective tool for physical and mental fitness, as seen by Edward O. Thorp's 89-year-old physique.
    • Be mindful of our diet, physical fitness, and mental health, keep a daily check on body weight, do preventative measures, and limit alcohol intake to maintain overall health and well-being.
    • Taking risks is not always necessary, so try to avoid them while also taking the time to think through decisions.
    • Taking the time to think through risks can help us make the right choices in difficult situations and save us time, money and lives.
    • Developing an understanding of the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator can help us better comprehend why people think and act the way they do and to be more accepting of others.
    • Understanding numeracy, probability and statistics helps build an inner compass to make better decisions and create a unique path.
    • Utilize scrap time for activities such as light exercise, stretches, and simple tasks to stay healthy and live longer. Plan ahead and make mindful decisions to avoid pitfalls and improve longevity.
    • Running a marathon teaches us the importance of considering the future impact of our decisions, for ourselves and for others.

    📝 Podcast Summary

    Long-Term Thinking and Numeracy: Essential Skills for Understanding the Scientific World

    Short-term thinking is often beneficial but it can be costly when the long-term implications are not taken into account.An example is Edward O. Thorp who noticed that common stock warrants were vastly overpriced with around two years to go and cashed in on the opportunity.His friend who wanted to sell his house in 1989 or 1990 could have made more money by selling it right away, but held out for more money and ended up missing out on potential earnings.This is an example of how short-term thinking can be costly.Numeracy, or the ability to think with numbers, is an important skill to understand the scientific world.C.P. Snow gave a lecture in 1960 on how many people lack this comfort with numerical skills and how it affects the understanding of science.Numeracy is therefore an important skill to have and understanding the long-term implications of decisions is also equally important.

    Understanding Statistics, Probability and Game Theory

    Having a strong understanding of statistics, probability and game theory can be extremely useful in life.People should take the time to learn about these topics, especially if they are dealing with numbers in their profession.People should also be aware of the limitations of using average numbers and the difference between relative and absolute risk.A good way to start learning more about these topics is to read the book ‘Bad Science’ by Ben Goldacre and also look into Schaum’s Outline series, which provides basic formulas and instructions.Finally, it is important to develop the ability to do mental calculations and understand the Rule of 72 for finance.All these learnings will help to make more informed decisions.

    Learning Shortcuts and Tricks to Help Students Succeed

    Learning shortcuts and tricks can help students in the long run.For instance, the 'Rule of 72' can help you calculate the time to double a number.For example, if you divide 72 by 8 (the interest rate), you get nine.This means that with 8% compound growth, it will take nine years to double.Additionally, there is a method to determine the day of the week for any date without having to look at a calendar.It involves memorizing numbers associated with months and centuries.With practice, this can come in handy when answering questions like, “What day of the week was 4th of July, 1776?”.Doing this can help you remember dates and calendar days without having to look at a calendar.

    Compounding for the Long-Term: Leveraging the Power of Time

    Investing for the long-term can be extremely beneficial.The Rule of 72 and its offspring can be used to calculate compound rate of growth and how long it takes to double.For instance, if you invest in a stock market that goes up 10% a year, it will take around 7.2 years to double.Over a century, it could result in 16,000 times growth. That's the power of compounding.Similarly, small changes like avoiding spending on cigarettes can have a huge long-term impact - half a million dollars after 60 years! When making long-term decisions, it's important to be prepared for short-term speed bumps and to have enough capital to wait out any dips.Depending on the individual, it could be anywhere from 5 to 50 years or more.

    Making the Most of Your Resources Through Financial Planning

    The importance of financial planning can not be overstated.It is especially important for those who do not have the luxury of making long-term choices due to their financial situation.This can be addressed by having a plan to make the most of your resources over a long period of time.For example, if you are 45 years old and have the ability to invest for the rest of your life, you should plan for the long-term and aim for a longer life span.If you have the resources to do so, you should focus on healthy habits and stay up to date with the latest science and trends.Wealth and longevity go hand in hand, and having the capital to make decisions can help you avoid certain issues that come with not having the same resources.Everyone's situation is different, but having a plan for the future can help you make the most of your resources and enjoy life.

    Hedge Funds: An Attractive Investment Option for Tax-Exempt Investors

    An important lesson to learn from this section is that the returns of hedge funds are not as attractive as they used to be.In the past, hedge funds could make an individual an annual return of 20%, but today, due to taxes, the return is much lower.However, tax-exempt investors such as universities and endowment funds can still benefit from hedge funds, making them an attractive investment option.This is something to consider when making investments and looking to get an edge in the hedge fund market.It is also worth noting the power of games and activities when it comes to developing numeracy skills, such as playing poker or blackjack.This is a fun and effective way to understand basic principles of probabilities and statistics.

    Record Your Weight for Physical and Mental Fitness

    Developing awareness is a key part of physical and mental fitness.Developing this awareness can be done through simple practices such as recording your weight every day.This simple practice can be incredibly effective in changing behaviour and can ultimately lead to positive outcomes.Edward O. Thorp is an excellent example of this, as he has been recording his weight for years and as a result, he looks like he is 60, despite being 89 years old.He also encouraged a relative to do this and saw the positive results this had on them.Therefore, it is evident that recording your weight can be an incredibly effective tool in achieving physical and mental fitness.

    Taking Care of Our Health and Well-Being

    Learning to be mindful of our health and fitness is key to leading a long and healthy life.This means being aware of our diet, physical fitness, and mental health.Making sure to keep a daily check on our body weight can help us to stay within our desired range of health, and can help to prevent the onset of health issues.Additionally, it is important to do things that are preventative and make sure to go in for routine check-ups.This will allow us to catch and take care of any potential issues.Finally, we should also limit our alcohol intake to a few drinks a week.This simple step can make all the difference in our overall health and well-being.

    Avoiding Unnecessary Risks and Taking Time to Think

    Edward O. Thorp, a 89 year old learned something many of us need to learn - that taking risks is not always necessary.He advises us to avoid unnecessary risks, like avoiding large crowds and travelling, to ensure our safety.He also recommends listening to music and going for walks to reduce stress.Finally, he shares an interesting story of Benjamin Stein and Milton Friedman, which teaches us that we should not take unnecessary risks, even if they might save us a few seconds.Taking a little extra time to think through decisions can save us a lot of trouble in the long run.

    Understanding Risk to Make Quick and Effective Decisions

    Life is full of risks, big and small. Taking the time to think about potential dangers and how to respond can make a huge difference in how we handle these situations.The book 'The Unthinkable' by Amanda Ripley talks about how having three steps - denial, deliberation and decision - can help us react quickly and effectively.For example, in the event of an earthquake, it might be best to drop to the ground first and then assess the situation.Everyday dangers like someone shooting in a crowd or an unexpected natural disaster require split-second decisions.Being prepared for such scenarios can help us make the right choices and come out of them with minimal loss.Even low probability events like a deep freeze or a nuclear detonation need to be considered and prepared for.Taking the time to think through these risks can save us time, money and lives.Edward O. Thorp's age-guessing experiment is a humorous example of how to assess and understand risk.

    Exploring the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator and Understanding People

    Edward O. Thorp's discussion with Tim Ferriss on other-directed versus inner-directed people is a great way to learn about understanding people.He introduces the Myers-Briggs type indicator, a personality-typing scheme developed by a mother and daughter that breaks people down into 16 major categories.He explains that inner-directed people tend to be introverts and develop their own independent moral and ethical compass, while other-directed people tend to conform to the majority and are extroverts.This can help us understand why people think and act the way they do and to be less judgemental and more accepting of others.

    Developing an Inner Compass Through Numeracy, Probability and Statistics

    People have different personalities, attitudes and characteristics which make them unique and it is important to develop an inner compass that guides us in our decisions and helps us to feel a sense of worth.To do this, it is useful to have an understanding of numeracy and probability and statistics, as well as the ability to read studies for ourselves.This will give us more confidence and enable us to make better decisions.Furthermore, we should take into account advice from our medical professionals, including the possible side effects of any drugs, before taking them.In this way, we can create our own unique path and develop a strong inner compass.

    Maximizing Longevity Through Healthy Living

    Living a healthy lifestyle is key to longevity.Edward O. Thorp, an expert on the subject, suggests using scrap time to stay healthy.Scrap time is a period of time where one can do activities such as light exercise, stretches, and even simple tasks such as shoulder shrugs, neck exercises, and leg raises.By keeping busy during seemingly unproductive times, such as when stuck in traffic or waiting for an appointment, one can keep healthy and in turn, improve their longevity.Additionally, Thorp suggests looking at life as a marathon and being mindful of the choices one makes.Planning ahead to avoid certain pitfalls, such as knee replacements and heart disease, is essential for a healthy lifestyle.By adapting these beliefs, one can ensure a longer, healthier life.

    Thinking Long-Term: The Valuable Lesson of Running a Marathon

    Running a marathon teaches us the importance of thinking long-term.It is essential to think about how our actions now will affect the future, not just for ourselves but for those around us.Edward O. Thorp's advice to think of the world and society as "us" instead of "me" is a great reminder that our choices matter.A famous engineer once said that when evaluating someone's understanding of Artificial Intelligence, he asked two questions: "Do you have kids?", to evaluate if they are thinking sufficiently long-term, as well as "Do you know how to code?", to evaluate their engineering bias.Thinking long-term is a valuable lesson that can help us make the world a better place in the present and the future.

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    #733: Live 10th Anniversary Random Show with Kevin Rose — Exploring What’s Next, Testing Ozempic, Modern Dating, New Breakthrough Treatments for Anxiety, Bitcoin ETFs, Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul, and Engineering More Awe in Your Life

    #733: Live 10th Anniversary Random Show with Kevin Rose —  Exploring What’s Next, Testing Ozempic, Modern Dating, New Breakthrough Treatments for Anxiety, Bitcoin ETFs, Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul, and Engineering More Awe in Your Life

    This week is officially the podcast’s 10-year anniversary, and there is no better way to commemorate such a wild milestone than with Kevin Rose and a little tequila. As many listeners know, Kevin was my very first guest for episode 1, way back in April 2014. Timestamps for this episode are available below.

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    [07:20] First live Random Show?

    [07:50] Reasons to celebrate.

    [08:30] How long can this go on?

    [10:15] Mmm…Mmm.

    [11:53] Inflection points.

    [13:00] Interesting over impulse.

    [14:46] Bitcoin ETFs.

    [17:22] PROOF news.

    [18:41] What’s Kevin’s next project?

    [21:15] Don’t DIY your TMS.

    [22:57] The SAINT protocol and accelerated TMS.

    [23:42] Kevin wonders how magnets work.

    [24:27] How accelerated TMS has helped me.

    [28:02] Consumer access to accelerated TMS.

    [31:50] How TMS feels, and other possible uses.

    [32:49] Potential downsides.

    [35:10] How to find out more about accelerated TMS.

    [38:18] How to appear human in social situations.

    [45:20] Jinjer and Sohn.

    [46:24] Android and Gemini.

    [48:41] Content production and future fame.

    [49:58] Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson.

    [52:02] Kevin’s deflated balls.

    [55:49] My single life.

    [59:39] Extending experiential lifespan.

    [1:06:12] This is (Henry Shukman’s) The Way.

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    #732: Martha Beck — The Amazing and Brutal Results of Zero Lies for 365 Days, How to Do a Beginner “Integrity Cleanse,” Lessons from Lion Trackers, and Novel Tactics for Reducing Anxiety

    #732: Martha Beck — The Amazing and Brutal Results of Zero Lies for 365 Days, How to Do a Beginner “Integrity Cleanse,” Lessons from Lion Trackers, and Novel Tactics for Reducing Anxiety

    Dr. Martha Beck has been called “the best-known life coach in America” by NPR and USA Today. She holds three Harvard degrees in social science and has published nine non-fiction books, one novel, and more than 200 magazine articles. Her recent book, The Way of Integrity: Finding the Path to Your True Self, was an instant New York Times Best Seller.

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    #731: Dr. David Spiegel, Stanford U. — Practical Hypnosis, Meditation vs. Hypnosis, Pain Management Without Drugs, The Neurobiology of Trance, and More

    #731: Dr. David Spiegel, Stanford U. — Practical Hypnosis, Meditation vs. Hypnosis, Pain Management Without Drugs, The Neurobiology of Trance, and More

    Dr. David Spiegel is Willson Professor and Associate Chair of Psychiatry & Behavioral Sciences, Director of the Center on Stress and Health, and Medical Director of the Center for Integrative Medicine at Stanford University School of Medicine, where he has been a member of the academic faculty since 1975. He is the founder of Reveri, the world's first interactive self-hypnosis app.

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    [07:00] How Herbert Spiegel was exposed to hypnosis.

    [10:14] Using hypnosis to cure non-epileptic seizures.

    [11:53] What is a forensic psychiatrist?

    [14:43] How hypnosis works.

    [17:54] Hypnosis and the flow state.

    [21:03] How hypnosis differs from meditation.

    [22:38] Determining one’s susceptibility to hypnosis.

    [27:21] I take the eye-roll test.

    [29:33] Thoughts on EMDR.

    [36:29] Therapeutic psychedelics and ego dissolution.

    [41:05] Potential adverse effects of hypnosis?

    [42:34] Accelerated TMS improves response to hypnosis.

    [44:25] Hypnosis as a tool for stress and pain relief.

    [48:56] David treats my back pain with hypnosis.

    [57:09] Replicating this effect with self-hypnosis.

    [57:57] Understanding the science of pain relief.

    [1:03:18] Filtering the hurt from the pain.

    [1:06:37] For us, not against us.

    [1:09:12] Hypnosis vs. other addiction interventions.

    [1:11:41] A mesmerizing tale of hypnotic history.

    [1:16:10] Most surprising patient outcomes.

    [1:24:53] Finding connection to treat the agitated.

    [1:28:40] Who is Reveri designed for?

    [1:31:15] Hypnosis as a first rather than last resort.

    [1:35:02] Further resources and final thoughts.

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    #730: Reed Hastings, Co-Founder of Netflix — How to Cultivate High Performance, The Art of Farming for Dissent, Favorite Failures, and More

    #730: Reed Hastings, Co-Founder of Netflix — How to Cultivate High Performance, The Art of Farming for Dissent, Favorite Failures, and More

    Reed Hastings became executive chairman of Netflix in 2023, after 25 years as CEO. He co-founded Netflix in 1997. Reed is also a majority owner of Powder Mountain. He is currently on the board of several educational organizations including KIPP and Pahara.

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    Timestamps:

    [06:34] Alfred Lee Loomis and Tuxedo Park.

    [07:53] Risk tolerance: nature or nurture?

    [10:56] Cultivating culture that “eats strategy for lunch.”

    [15:41] The logic behind generous severance.

    [17:02] Adapting to Pure chaos.

    [18:44] Reference checking potential hires.

    [20:29] Context vs. control.

    [22:35] Radical candor.

    [24:15] Guardrails for maintaining work/life balance.

    [27:04] Farming for dissent.

    [28:39] Believing in the green crystals.

    [30:54] High-performance team, not family.

    [31:59] The keeper test.

    [32:49] Fire and replace, or replace and fire?

    [33:59] Beyond Entrepreneurship and other recommended reading/viewing.

    [37:46] A favorite failure.

    [40:32] Outstanding leaders.

    [41:10] Reed’s two “religions.”

    [42:19] Powder Mountain.

    [44:44] How Powder Mountain differs from Reed’s other projects.

    [46:24] Powder Mountain’s biggest challenges ahead.

    [47:02] Could Reed ever really retire?

    [47:19] Best investments of time, energy, or money.

    [48:49] How can we improve education in the US?

    [52:48] What class would Reed teach?

    [53:59] Juggling projects without losing focus.

    [55:04] Philanthropy: Why Africa?

    [55:32] Being “big-hearted champions who pick up the trash.”

    [56:28] Reed’s billboard.

    [58:01] Parting thoughts.

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    #729: Legendary Actor Scott Glenn — How to Be Super Fit at 85, Lessons from Marlon Brando, How to Pursue Your Purpose, The Art of Serendipity, Stories of Gunslingers, and More

    #729: Legendary Actor Scott Glenn — How to Be Super Fit at 85, Lessons from Marlon Brando, How to Pursue Your Purpose, The Art of Serendipity, Stories of Gunslingers, and More

    Scott Glenn’s acting career spans nearly 60 years. His impressive film resume includes performances in Apocalypse Now, Urban Cowboy, The Right Stuff, Silverado, The Hunt for Red October, The Silence of the Lambs, Backdraft, The Virgin Suicides, and The Bourne Ultimatum. This year, Scott will return to HBO to join season 3 of The White Lotus.

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    [07:10] Idaho vs. Los Angeles.

    [13:26] Apocalypse Now, self-confidence soon after.

    [17:26] Burt Lancaster’s movie star lessons.

    [23:06] The birth and death of Wes Hightower.

    [32:22] Catching the attention of James Bridges.

    [35:42] Scarlet fever.

    [37:29] From Marine to police reporter.

    [42:12] Berghof Studios and parental advice.

    [50:44] Converting to Judaism.

    [53:36] Lao Tzu: the ultimate mystic?

    [58:16] Letting go with Killer Joe.

    [1:02:53] “Crazy Whitefella Thinking.”

    [1:08:31] Getting out of the way and Erwan Le Corre.

    [1:11:51] Lessons from the “morally phenomenal” Marlon Brando.

    [1:16:26] How Scott’s childhood bout with scarlet fever informed his life’s course.

    [1:19:05] Daily routines and exercises of an in-shape 85-year-old.

    [1:35:12] Securing a serendipitous skill set.

    [1:42:13] Thailand talk.

    [1:46:18] Increasing surface luck.

    [1:47:04] How Scott met and fell in love with his wife.

    [1:53:04] “Just dance.”

    [1:53:46] Mistakenly calling Rudolf Nureyev Russian.

    [1:55:57] Poetry.

    [2:00:01] What Laurence Olivier knew about the value of tenacity.

    [2:01:41] Parting thoughts.

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    #728: Seth Godin — Coaching Tim on Overcoming Resistance, Lessons from Isaac Asimov, Writing Secrets After 8,500+ Daily Blog Posts, The Dangers of Authenticity, Practices for Consistency, and Much More

    #728: Seth Godin — Coaching Tim on Overcoming Resistance, Lessons from Isaac Asimov, Writing Secrets After 8,500+ Daily Blog Posts, The Dangers of Authenticity, Practices for Consistency, and Much More

    Seth Godin is the author of 21 international bestsellers that have changed the way people think about work. Seth’s books include Tribes, Purple Cow, Linchpin, The Dip, and This Is Marketing. Seth writes one of the most popular marketing blogs in the world, and two of his TED talks are among the most popular of all time. His latest book is The Song of Significance: A New Manifesto for Teams

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    Timestamps:

    [06:14] Writing a provocation rather than a prescription.

    [13:08] Divvying up concepts.

    [16:25] Comprehension over complication.

    [18:58] How Seth fulfills a blog post’s purpose.

    [22:28] Claude AI vs. ChatGPT.

    [23:41] How Seth Godin as a Service (SGaaS) maintains consistency.

    [27:23] Simplification over exaggeration.

    [31:56] Working with Isaac Asimov and getting a Clue.

    [36:53] How Seth moves life’s story forward (even when he loves the current chapter).

    [43:28] Why does Seth write?

    [44:59] Is an ounce of prevention worth a pound of sinecure?

    [45:15] Parting thoughts.

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    #727: In Case You Missed It: February 2024 Recap of "The Tim Ferriss Show"

    #727: In Case You Missed It: February 2024 Recap of "The Tim Ferriss Show"

    This episode is brought to you by 5-Bullet Friday, my very own email newsletter.

    Welcome to another episode of The Tim Ferriss Show, where it is my job to deconstruct world-class performers to tease out the routines, habits, et cetera that you can apply to your own life. 

    This is a special inbetweenisode, which serves as a recap of the episodes from last month. It features a short clip from each conversation in one place so you can easily jump around to get a feel for the episode and guest.

    Based on your feedback, this format has been tweaked and improved since the first recap episode. For instance, listeners suggested that the bios for each guest can slow the momentum, so we moved all the bios to the end. 

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    Soman Chainani: 00:23:38

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    Cal Newport — How to Embrace Slow Productivity, Build a Deep Life, Achieve Mastery, and Defend Your Time (#722)

    Claire Hughes Johnson, Building Stripe from 160 to 6,000+ Employees — How to Take Radical Ownership of Your Life and Career (#724)

    Master Negotiator William Ury — Proven Strategies and Amazing Stories from Warren Buffett, Nelson Mandela, Kim Jong Un, Hugo Chávez, and More (#721)

    Life Lessons from Taylor Swift, Conquering Anxiety, Coaching Teens, Career Reinvention, Supposedly Gay Bulls, Your Shadow Side, and More — Soman Chainani (#720)

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