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    Will Saletan: In Defense of Kristen Welker

    en-usSeptember 18, 2023

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    • Packers fan's unconventional celebration, Trump investigations, and Boebert scandalA Packers fan's unusual celebration, Trump's efforts to intimidate and obstruct investigations, and Boebert's conflicting actions and scandals highlight the intricacies of politics and sports.

      The Packers football game celebration went beyond the usual traditions with one fan pouring Velveeta and tortilla chips over another's head. Meanwhile, former President Trump's actions have come under scrutiny as Special Counsel Jack Smith moves forward with investigations. Trump's past attempts to intimidate, lie, and obstruct justice have been detailed in a motion requesting a gag order. In the same week, a new scandal involving Republican Congresswoman Lauren Boebert emerged, revealing an incident of public groping during a date, while the man she was with owns a gay-friendly bar hosting drag shows. The contrast between Boebert's heterosexual actions and her perceived scandal involving the LGBTQ+ community adds an intriguing layer to the story. These events serve as reminders of the complexities and nuances that unfold in the world of politics and sports.

    • Internal Conflict in the Republican Party over Corruption AllegationsDespite overwhelming evidence of corruption, a select group of Republican senators acquitted Texas AG Ken Paxton, highlighting the existence of a MAGA wing that disregards evidence and continues to support controversial figures.

      Within the Republican Party, there are significant differences and divisions, particularly regarding the behavior and actions of certain elected officials. The impeachment and acquittal of Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton serves as an example of this internal conflict. While a majority of Republicans in the state house voted to impeach him due to overwhelming evidence of corruption, a select group of senators acquitted him, leading to celebration from former President Trump. This incident underscores the existence of a MAGA wing that disregards evidence and continues to support controversial figures, even in the face of substantial allegations. The behavior of figures like Ken Paxton and Donald Trump, as well as the reactions from different factions within the Republican Party, highlight the complex and nuanced political landscape.

    • Political Climate: Disregard for Evidence and TruthDespite clear signs of corruption, Ken Paxton was acquitted. The GOP portrays Dems as evil, fueling a dangerous partisan divide. Trump's cognitive decline and influence on international issues is a concern. Strive for truthful political discourse.

      The current political climate in the United States is characterized by an alarming disregard for evidence and truth, as evidenced by the acquittal of Ken Paxton despite clear signs of corruption. This trend is not limited to one political party, but it is particularly concerning when it comes to the Republican Party, which has increasingly portrayed Democrats as evil and dangerous, leading to a dangerous partisan divide. Another concerning development is the cognitive decline and impairment of former President Donald Trump, who continues to wield significant influence and is currently dealing with international issues such as Russia and nuclear war. Trump's use of melodramatic music during speeches is a reflection of his detachment from reality and his inflated sense of self-importance, which is a cause for concern for many observers. Overall, it is important for all of us to be mindful of these troubling trends and to strive for a more truthful and evidence-based political discourse.

    • Should Media Give Trump a Platform?Media's decision to interview Trump presents a dilemma: while fact-checking can hold him accountable, it may also amplify his lies. Trump's approval rating is similar to Biden's, but his dishonesty harms his image. Critics argue against giving him a platform, but media holds responsibility to inform public.

      The decision to give Donald Trump a platform on news shows, such as Meet the Press, is a complex issue. While some argue that fact-checking and providing a platform for Trump's lies only amplifies his message, others believe that holding him accountable for his false statements is crucial. In this discussion, it was pointed out that Trump's approval rating is currently even with Joe Biden's, and his lies and refusal to accept facts do more harm than good to his image. The interviewer, Kristen Welker, was praised for fact-checking Trump throughout the interview, but some critics still believe that the media should not be giving Trump a platform at all. Ultimately, it seems that there is no easy answer to this question, and the media must grapple with the challenge of holding Trump accountable while also avoiding amplifying his falsehoods.

    • Unique environment of NBC News interview led to significant admissions from TrumpTrump admitted to making decisions related to election denialism despite counsel and acknowledged the election was over at 10 p.m. on election night, contradicting the narrative pushed by him and other Republicans, and his behavior raises questions about his mental state and suitability for office.

      The NBC News interview with Donald Trump by Kristen Welker provided a unique environment where Trump was directly interrogated without the presence of a crowd or affirmation, leading to significant admissions. Trump confessed to making decisions related to the election denialism despite advice from counsel, and acknowledged that he believed the election was over at 10 p.m. on election night. These admissions could be legally and politically significant, as they contradict the narrative pushed by Trump and other Republicans about the validity of the election results. Moreover, Trump's behavior of deflecting all contrary information and unwelcome facts is a more pathological issue than simple lying, which raises questions about his mental state and suitability for office.

    • Trump's Interview: Senility or Psychopathy?During an interview, Trump's lack of transparency and accountability during the Capitol attack raised concerns about his ability to lead and make decisions in a crisis. His inconsistencies on abortion also stood out.

      During an interview with Donald Trump, it became clear that the choice between senility and psychopathy may be the best description for his behavior during the January 6th Capitol attack. Trump's refusal to answer specific questions about his actions during the crisis, even when faced with the evidence on TV, was striking. His response was to plead the 5th amendment, showing a lack of transparency and accountability. This behavior is particularly concerning for someone in the position of being the President of the United States during a national crisis. It raises questions about his ability to lead and make decisions in times of urgency. The interview also highlighted Trump's past inconsistencies on abortion, with him making the most definitive statement yet, distancing himself from some elements of the pro-life movement. Overall, the interview provided insight into Trump's behavior during a critical moment in American history and underscored the importance of holding those in power accountable for their actions.

    • Trump's stance on abortion bans: NegotiableTrump's willingness to negotiate on abortion bans reveals his lack of fixed principles and moral understanding on the issue, raising questions about his sincerity to the pro-life cause.

      During a recent interview, former President Donald Trump expressed his willingness to negotiate on the issue of abortion bans, specifically regarding the difference between a 6-week and a 15-week ban. While some, like DeSantis and Pence, hold strong pro-life beliefs and view abortion as a moral absolute, Trump has previously shown a lack of fixed principles on the issue. He has panderered to the pro-life movement but does not share their moral understanding. Trump's position on the 15-week ban is more politically palatable, as most Americans support abortion in the first trimester. However, his comments have sparked controversy and raised questions about his sincerity and commitment to the pro-life cause. The response from the hardcore pro-life movement to Trump's stance remains to be seen.

    • Republican Party Divided on Abortion and UkraineThe Republican Party is facing internal divisions on key issues like abortion and Ukraine. Trump's more lenient stance on abortion could help him appeal to moderates and independents, but could also cause backlash from the pro-life movement. Opposition to Ukraine funding is another point of contention, complicating the party's messaging.

      The Republican Party is experiencing internal divisions on key issues, particularly on abortion and Ukraine. Donald Trump is positioning himself to the left of some conservative figures like Mike Pence on abortion, advocating for a more lenient stance on the issue. This could be a politically smart move, as a significant portion of the Republican base may not care about this difference, and it could help Trump appeal to moderates and independents in the general election. However, this stance could also cause backlash from the pro-life movement, which could impact Trump's standing in the primary. Another major point of contention is Ukraine funding, with some Republicans, including Trump, opposing continued support for the country. This divide could further complicate the political landscape and make it difficult for the party to present a unified front on these issues.

    • Republican Party's stance vs Zelensky's leadershipDespite Zelensky's courage, GOP opposes Ukraine funding; Trump gains ground amidst Biden's challenges, but his past behavior remains a concern

      The Republican Party's stance on funding for Ukraine contrasts sharply with Ukraine's President Zelensky's courage in leading his country during wartime. Meanwhile, polls suggest Donald Trump is gaining ground against President Biden, who is facing a challenging month with the UAW strike, inflation concerns, Hunter Biden's indictment, impeachment inquiry, and age-related criticisms. The economic situation may improve, but the public's perception of Trump's insanity and disregard for negative feedback remains a significant concern. Trump's history of disregarding consent and using force to get his way is a recurring theme in his interactions with women and with the country.

    • The power of whataboutism in politicsRepublicans use whataboutism to deflect criticism and sway voters, challenging Democrats and media to present clear contrasts and focus on issues.

      The power of whataboutism in politics is a significant challenge for Democrats and the media in the 2024 election. The use of this tactic by Republicans to deflect criticism and accuse their opponents of the same wrongdoings, no matter how baseless, can sway voters and create doubt, even in the face of clear evidence. The challenge is to cut through this cloud of misinformation and present a clear contrast between the candidates, focusing on the issues that matter most to voters. The indictment of Hunter Biden is a prime example of this tactic, with Republicans criticizing the selective enforcement of justice and demanding more. The lack of optimism about the American public's ability to distinguish fact from fiction and their willingness to support an authoritarian candidate is a concern. To overcome this, it's essential to mobilize and engage enough voters to support Joe Biden with a clear and compelling message.

    • Convincing longtime Republicans to abandon TrumpIndividual actions, like not supporting Trump or standing behind a less-than-ideal candidate, can significantly impact the election's outcome.

      Persuading longtime Republican voters to not support Donald Trump in the upcoming election is a crucial step towards making him lose and encouraging the Republican party to reconsider Trumpism as a winning political strategy. This can be achieved by making them question their allegiance to the party and the values they represent, rather than forcing them to vote for Joe Biden. Additionally, for the left, it's essential to unite behind the Democratic nominee, even if they're unhappy with him, to prevent Trump's re-election. For the right, not voting for Trump can help swing states and potentially determine the election outcome. The conversation also touched upon Nikki Haley's sensible ideas regarding abortion and the potential for Trump to adopt a pro-choice stance, which could get messy in the upcoming debates. Overall, the key takeaway is that individual actions, whether it's standing behind a less-than-ideal candidate or refusing to support a problematic one, can have a significant impact on the election's outcome.

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