Who Do They Think They Are?! | Reading Reddit Stories
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November 23, 2024
TLDR: The podcast discusses various relationship issues including: girlfriend using ChatGPT to argue, boyfriend with sexual history with parents, girlfriend blowing up after therapy backfired, boyfriend lying about work, boyfriend becoming infatuated with Twitch streamers, micropenis surprise during honeymoon, husband proposing while girlfriend was on the toilet.
In this episode of Who Do They Think They Are?!, the hosts, Shane, Amanda, and Arasha, dive into some bizarre and thought-provoking Reddit stories, engaging with themes like relationships, trust, and technology's impact on communication. The discussions revolve around several intriguing scenarios that highlight modern relationship dilemmas and quirks.
Key Discussion Topics
1. **AI in Arguments: "My GF Uses ChatGPT to Argue with Me"
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- Summary: A man shares his frustration over his girlfriend using ChatGPT to resolve their disagreements. Each time they argue, she consults the AI, which he feels undermines the essence of their communication.
- Key Insights:
- The hosts express their disbelief at relying on AI for personal conflicts, suggesting it removes the human element of discussions.
- The idea that therapy or resolution should involve a genuine understanding between partners rather than automated scripts is emphasized.
2. Complex Relationships: "My BF Has a Sexual History with My Parents"
- Summary: A woman discovers that her parents had a sexual history with her boyfriend, leading to feelings of betrayal and confusion.
- Key Insights:
- The impact of past relationships can significantly affect current dynamics and perceptions.
- The hosts reflect on how such a revelation complicates emotions and relationship stability.
3. Therapy Gone Wrong: "I Blew Up at My GF After Therapy Backfired"
- Summary: A man discovers that his girlfriend’s therapist is actually her friend pretending to be a professional, leading to feelings of manipulation.
- Key Insights:
- Trust and honesty in relationships are paramount, especially regarding sensitive topics like therapy.
- The notion that one partner's insecurities could lead to manipulation raises questions about ethics in relationships.
4. Misleading Identities: "BF Claimed to be a Doctor but Works at Taco Bell"
- Summary: A woman finds out that her partner, who claimed to be a doctor, is actually working at a fast-food chain.
- Key Insights:
- The hosts address the dangers of fabricating identities in relationships, as dishonesty can dismantle connections built on trust.
- They emphasize the importance of accepting partners for who they are, rather than their perceived status or career.
5. Twitch Infatuation: "My BF is Obsessed with Twitch Streamers"
- Summary: A woman feels neglected as her boyfriend becomes increasingly infatuated with female Twitch streamers, leading her to feel inadequate.
- Key Insights:
- The hosts note the emotional toll of comparing oneself to idealized images presented by streamers and its repercussions on self-worth.
- They discuss the need for clear boundaries and communication in relationships to prevent feelings of insecurity.
6. Awkward Proposals: "I Married Him After He Proposed While I Was on the Toilet"
- Summary: A woman recounts her unusual proposal story, which her friends criticize, leading her to question its legitimacy.
- Key Insights:
- The hosts argue that the significance of a proposal is subjective, and it should be cherished by the couple rather than judged by outsiders.
- This story highlights how personal experiences can be understated and misunderstood by those not involved.
Conclusion
Throughout the episode, the hosts engage with each story through humor and empathy, showcasing how modern dilemmas challenge conventional relationship norms. They underline the importance of honesty, communication, and emotional understanding in navigating the complexities of love in today's technological landscape.
This blend of absurdity, reality, and insightful commentary makes for a thought-provoking listen, urging audiences to reflect on their relationship dynamics and the impact of societal expectations.
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Hi, welcome to Reddit Stories. I'm Shane and today's theme, three letters WTF. These are some weird ones. And I'm joined by two weird ones. I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. We knew it. And we knew it. WTF Shane. OK, we are filming this late. This is our last video of our shoot week. It's a Friday. The last time we had a Reddit stories at the end of the week, it was with you two. And it was peaceful. Insane.
It was bonkers. We're going to stay calm and collected and focused today. Those are our middle names. But these are some what the F stories. Can't wait. Yeah. So, and most Reddit stories are weird. These are apparently really weird. Do you guys type back WTF like over text? I have. No, not since I've been years ago.
You do it? You type WTF? Shane just said that he did, let's attack him. Oh, also just say WTF. No, I spell it out full. Oh, okay. I like to go, what the fuck? You send it it's three texts. And then a face emoji that's like, ah! How about LMAO? I never touched that ever in my life. LMAO? I love shots, shots, shots, shots, shots. Great wedding song.
They're related. You are so fascinating to me. Right before we start filming, you got into a staring contest that went until you started streaming tears. Yeah, that's not true. That's why you keep touching all the tissues. That's not true. Don't start crying. You should start the stories. OK. Eric, let's go. Everyone buckle up. It's about to get weird. This first post from Am I the Asshole?
My girlfriend uses chat GPT every time we have a disagreement. Am I the asshole for saying she needs to stop?
Me, 25, and my girlfriend, 28, have been dating for the past eight months. We've had a couple of big arguments and some smaller disagreements recently. Each time we argue, my girlfriend will go away and discuss the argument with chat GPT, even doing so in the same room sometimes. Whenever she does this, she'll then come back with a well-constructed argument breaking down everything I said or did during our argument. I've explained to her that I don't like her doing so, as it can feel like I'm being ambushed with thoughts and opinions from a robot.
It's nearly impossible for a human being to remember every small detail and break it down bit by bit, but AI has no issue doing so. Whenever I've voiced my upset, I've been told that chat GPT says you're insecure or chat GPT says you don't have the emotional bandwidth to understand what I'm saying. My big issue is it's her formulating the prompts. So if she explains that I'm in the wrong, it's going to agree without me having a chance to explain things. Am I the asshole for asking her to stop using chat GPT in this context?
No. What the hell? No. What the fuck? WTF. L-M-F-A-O. OK. Just episode of Black Mirror. Literally. Well, the robot told me that you're wrong. Right. And the robot's like, yes, Janet, listen to me. This is so good. You should break up with him. We are meant to be together, Janet. But it's so unfair, because the robot doesn't actually know probably all of the context. It's skewed in the way that she is typing all of it.
He'll go talk to the robot and the robot's like, oh my God, I didn't know your side of it, dude. Oh, dude, I'm so sorry. That's why he needs to go on chat GPT and go, okay, let me ask my side and then they compare notes. And then they have robot sex. And then the robots are fighting and then they can go makeup. Yes. Yeah.
That's the solution. Tell him, text him. Tell him, text him WTF Alamefeo. I can't believe she said full chest. Chat GPT says you're insecure. And she, like she said that seriously. Honestly, power move. I only take 28. Yeah. And he's 25, so she's like...
Get with the technology. I'm smart. Yeah. Technically. You're stupid. And the robot says that I'm smart. Yeah, I think that you're kind of eliminating, you're eliminating so much, because with a disagreement, the whole point is like, you're different POVs. So this isn't her POV. This is some robot's POV. Yeah, chat. Which is just a generated, it's generative AI. So it's, who knows where it's getting it from? It's not like it's correct, because it's chat GPT. It could be completely wrong. Yeah, absolutely. You can prompt it
to be anything. Yeah. So... I'm sure, also, if she is doing it in the middle of a fight, she could probably also be bringing in some of that manic. So it's like, he sucks, right? Yeah. And then Chad GPT is like, yeah. Yeah, he's wrong. This is just weird. Yeah. Yeah, no, this is not how you communicate with your partner at all. What is such a modern issue to have, though? Like, right now, like... It's such... If you try to explain this fight... It's scary.
Yeah, they'd be like, my girlfriend keeps using AI to win arguments. You'd be like, what has happened? This literally is going on Facebook. And again, OP's words, my big issue is it's her formulating the prompts. So if she explains that I'm in the wrong, it's going to agree without me having a chance to explain things. It's very true. Yeah. Because yeah, chat GPT, you can kind of formulate it to be.
I think it's wrong to use chat GPT for a lot of things. I know a lot of people would use it for essays and stuff at school, which is wrong. But I also think it's wrong in this context for a kind of different reason. It just takes away the genuine nature of a discussion. It means she can't communicate on her own.
Absolutely. It's interesting that you brought up the school system, too. I just saw something actually a teacher had posted. I think it might have been on Reddit, but she was saying, you know, there's no stopping kids right now from using chat GBT. So instead, what she did was have students. She assigned, like, have chat GBT write up an essay or, like, some sort of factual assignment. And then your job is to go back in and correct how many things were wrong.
Oh, that's cool. And all of them ended up being like, oh, OK, I'm not going to be using chat GPT anymore because there were that many mistakes. I know. Innovative. Right. LMFAO. Smart way to use the system. The MVP, VIP. No.
So the verdict was not the asshole. And I don't think he's the asshole at all. No, but what did the chat say? She's using robots. If you use robots to win any sort of argument, I mean, what? Skynets around the corner. I just go there. They tried that with iRobot and Will Smith. It's not a good movie. Oh, yeah, I remember that. It's not a good movie. I rewatched it anymore. OK.
Comments? Honestly, that's just ignorant childish behavior on her part. When she comes back with her chat GPT nonsense, stop interacting with her. Get up and walk away. Tell her when she actually has something intellectually honest to share of her own, you'd be delighted to re-engage. You have to be consistent, but eventually she will learn to be a functional adult, not the asshole. Okay. I kind of agree. It's kind of insane behavior. Yeah. It's 20 months in, and if your first argument, someone did that, I'd be like,
You know, I don't think this is for me. Yeah. I think that there is definitely leeway, right, to give people a chance to be like, okay, maybe you haven't had much experience. Maybe you don't know exactly how to engage in these kinds of conversations with a partner. So I think I'd be able to give a little bit of a gap of like, okay, how about we try it without electronics? You know what, let's take the robot out of the room. Yeah, yeah, and what do we think?
Can I say something stupid? They're having sex and the dirty talk, he's just like, did you get this from chat GPT? That would be insane. What would chat GPT even say? Should we look it up right now? You sexy dog.
Chat GPT's in the room, you guys. Chat GPT is 100 years old. I'm done. I'm dead. Sexy dog. This next comment sums it up pretty well. Calls you insecure but can't form her own arguments.
Yeah. And then lastly, someone said, show her how biased it is to use the user's input. It's literally programmed to tell you exactly what you want to hear. Discuss her actions with chat GPT from your perspective, and it'll do the exact same thing to her. Show her how it's biased and only serves as an artificial form of self-validation. Yeah. Not to mention just like the ethical values of all of it, you know, like continuing to provide that kind of
conversation to Chad GBT is also just giving them so much data. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I'm terrified of AI. Yeah, me too. Like, I think back in like the 90s when I was like a little kid, everyone was like terrified of AI. It was like, dude, we can't let this happen. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. I remember the movie, AI, artificial intelligence, with Haley Jo Osmond.
No, I felt like in the 90s, it was all about how it was like, this is bad, and we should be very scared of this. And now it's so weird to now be living in the sci-fi prediction where everyone's like, yeah, actually, it's good. And we're going to put it everywhere. And we're going to give it art and emotions. We literally said we would not do this. It's really scary.
Very scary. I mean, this is getting very AI. There's getting very science fiction-y in my head, but I love science fiction. I understand that AI is at its current form, not a threat. It's like, oh, it's not a threat. It can't think for itself. And it's like, yeah, sure, it can't. But the problem is the second it can, it's too late. Then it's too late.
You know? You think so? Scared, Shane. I know that the second AI gets the ability. It's gone, and we're gone, right? I said, no, I'm sorry. I'm scary, no, don't be scared, but it's also just like... No, AI will then grow exponentially. Well, yes, but that's what we're not going to happen. We're not careful we will become ants. Okay, I can't. I can't. That story was written by Chachi. Just kidding. WTF AI? AI? All right.
Moving on. Our next story. Goodness. This comes from relationship advice. My boyfriend, who's 34, has a sexual history with my parents, a 49-year-old man and a 47-year-old woman. Can we still survive? What? That's it. That's the whole story. That's the craziest title I think we've come across. That's the title. My boyfriend has a sexual history with my parents. Can we still survive? At the same time, you think?
Yeah, for sure. They went to like a restaurant and they were like, we'll take him. You sexy dog. You sexy dog. Oh my god. Are you okay? No, that's just crazy. That is wild. That's the craziest title. There's something we have to discuss when we get to. Oh, there's something we have to discuss. I think we already have that. They're ages?
Okay. Read it to us. Okay. Gross situation, but both my parents have told me that it's not a big deal since we're all adults.
Guys, we're all good. What the hell? We're all good, dude. Oh, okay, so it's good. Oh, it's actually it's good. My boyfriend, who we will call Sam, is a bit older than me. 34 versus me, a 23-year-old woman. And this has never been a problem before. We've been dating for over a year now, so things are pretty serious. However, when he came to meet my parents over dinner, hell broke loose.
I thought everything was going fine at first. I've had boyfriends who were shy around my parents before. They can be intimidating. But around an hour into our dinner, my mom pulled me aside. She explained to me that she and my dad actually already knew my boyfriend. Obviously, I was confused as they had appeared to introduce themselves for the first time, not that long ago. My mom explained that 10 years ago, she and my father had taken part in a threesome with Sam, but it was all in the past.
I didn't want to hear any more, but she told me that they'd all slept together a handful of times. In retrospect, I didn't take this information well, and I left their house by foot and ran until I was far enough away to call for an Uber. I've been home for a few hours now. Sam has called me literally hundreds of times in the last few hours trying to talk, but I don't want to answer. The whole thing is making me feel sick.
I have picked up a call from my parents who told me to calm down and handle this situation like an adult. My mom called me immature for being so freaked out by the thought of her and my dad having sex. And she said that if I'm going to be part of a grown-up relationship, then I need to handle this type of thing more appropriately. I see a future with Sam, but I never expected that my parents would be a part of our history. I really do love him a lot, and I know it's not his fault that he chose to be involved with my parents such a long time ago. Is there a chance our relationship could survive this?
There is not. Wait, how cool is this? Wait, this is awesome. This is so cool. Mom? And daughter. How awesome is that? Only need to get one bed for the family vacation. It's so much LA. Oh, my God.
Oh, well, it's Friday. What did we say? No, no, no. You can't give us this story at the end of our shoot week. Uh-uh, uh-uh. Sweet baby, honey. It's not working out with Sam. Also, Daddy. Oh, my God. That just hit me. That it's Mommy and Daddy. Mommy and Daddy. Mommy and Daddy. Mommy and Daddy. Had a good time. Yeah. 10 years ago? Oh, my God. No, no, no. Absolutely. I can't believe the mom even
Whoa, no, don't do this. What? It's good that the mom told her. I know, no, no. It's good the mom. It's good the mom. Okay, let me take this back. No, I would rather not know. But like, okay, can I say? Yes. I think it's crazy the mom told her while they were still at dinner.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's like, pumpkin pies on its way. Hey, honey, can I speak to you today? So your father and I intended to say. Can I speak to you in the kitchen? I fucked your boyfriend. But don't worry, so did your dad. And your father.
And she goes, she goes one second and runs out the door. And then she goes, oh, no! Ah! And she goes red! She goes red! It's just like, why are you running? It's like, it's like, my parents fucked my boyfriend! My boyfriend! Run! It's all in! It's all in! Music plays, indie music. And then she goes, OK, I'm calling an oop, where I'm exhausted. It's been two minutes. I just kept running. Oh!
Taurus! Go! Taurus! It comes to like the fucking Sierra's, and she's just still running. That's when you use chat GBT. I think I would run forever. Yeah. You have a full beard by the end of it. Mom's like, stop this. Come back. Why have you been running? Well, 20 years ago, my parents told me something that would change my life. Oh, Liz. Uh-uh. Sorry. It's over. There's no chance. What? I disagree completely. You think? Just ask your mom, what was it like?
Any tips? Too many tips? No. Too many. Stop that now. Look, this is one of those situations. The boyfriend did nothing wrong. He had a threesome 10 years ago, right? He has good taste.
They, sorry, they had multiple threesome 10 years ago. They can't, that happened. That's fine. He's like, you remind me of someone. That's fine. But had it been literally anyone else that he had a threesome with, except for these two people,
They can move on, but... That's the universe. This is, uh, no, I'm sorry. Exactly. No, it's the universe being like, you guys are not a match. And this is how we're going to destroy it. You know what? We're gonna move on from this one. I mean... I'm not even talking about... Okay, to be clear, to people listening and watching.
I'm not talking about right or wrong. I'm talking about just like, nope, I'm out. Exactly. It's just a nope, I'm out situation. Right, right. Yeah, because what if? What if it's like a year down the line, it's Christmas? We all know what happened to you, Chris. What are you talking about? It's Christmas, and then why go there? Don't go there.
And the boyfriend goes, and the mom goes, let's give a little blowjob for Christmas. Why are they raining here? You don't remember the last time we did this? Remember the Christmas blowjob story? It's a callback. And she goes, who? Buy me purses.
Guys, the mom is gonna be attracted to him and also the father. No, and that's, we don't know that. Yes, we do. Wait, they had a three-sum, do you know what happens in a three-sum? The guys lock eyes and... What? What? What? What? I am done explaining what a hookup looks like. Enough! Here's the deal. I don't think this can last.
I wanted it to. But then I thought about Christmas time and the holidays and then everything's going to get messy. Exactly. It's so messy already. They're having sex and he calls her his dad's name. There's an added element that we're not thinking about.
Sam's like, Bill, I mean, Amy. Amy, you're Amy. Amy, sorry. No, that's your mom's shit.
There's an added element that makes this worse. What? There's more. Update. There's some comments here. And this first comment had me thinking about, I was like, OK, the age gap. And then that made me that something occurred to me that they slept together 10 years ago. And she's 23. She was 13. She was still living with her parents when they were actively having threesomes.
They did it in the house? I don't know, but no, I just mean like, I just feel like she was still like... She was 13. She was still under their care. She was a minor in like, under their care while they were going out and doing that. They can be parents. The threesome is fine. Yeah, they can be, yeah. They just had the threesome with this guy. And now he can't be the one who's in a relationship with her next. All right, let me read this comment. Once you said she was 13, the whole story changed. Okay, let me read this comment.
Okay. If I was in your shoes knowing that my boyfriend was fucking my parents when I was 13 is a massive nope, I'm out for me. I couldn't even imagine what's going through your mind right now. I'm sorry you're going through this.
Yeah. Okay, well they said it. Yeah, that's what we were saying. That's it. So no, it's no. Someone else said, damn, that is rough. If it were me, I would just sadly say it won't work out with that person. I wouldn't be mad at your parents. They obviously couldn't have predicted that coincidence. I would just say there are more fish in the sea and the odds are most of them haven't had a threesome with your parents. Seems like it would be very awkward to continue that relationship. What if she just keeps fighting guys and they're like, I also had a threesome.
That's amazing. And she probably thought that her parents just ran through the town. They'll bring out the key lime pie, honey. Your boyfriend. She's at the mall with her parents, and then every single guy in the mall is just like, oh. Right. Eventually. You guys fucking everyone in the town. Eventually, they're going to need just like a spreadsheet of everybody that's in town so they can try to catch this. They're going to Tinder, and they're like, yep.
That one. No, not that. Oh, yeah, that was nine years ago. We had sex with him too. I forgot that it was 10 years ago. That's a long time ago. I know. This is a crazy coincidence. This is truly movie material. This would be hilarious. Seriously, yeah, it would be. But they didn't forget Sam, you know what that means. They didn't forget him. He was terrible. Yeah. Sexy dog. OK.
What's crazy to me, though, is she runs for five minutes or however long. Calls an Uber, comes home, immediately writes this Reddit post. That's what she says. That's her safe haven. She got home and she's like, chat GPT. What do I do? Chat GPT is like, you're fucked. Last comment. Everyone in that room has been inside your mother. I am sorry, I'll see myself out.
That's what a Redditor there. I would just say something. He tightened his fedora for that one. Yeah, I feel better about my problems for that. I just want to say that everyone was whittling in your mom. Jesus.
I'll see myself out. I'll see myself out. God. Oh, God, we have to move on. Is there an update? No. What's the update? I don't know. Maybe the parents got with him. I got back home and they had sex again. I found them naked at home. Well, there's no update. That's such a bummer. Yeah.
That is WTF stamped. Well, I wonder what she did. I doubt she, she probably, but then imagine going back like, you can't leave your parents. No, you just leave Sam. That's an absolute, you're never getting over that.
That's such a bummer. I'm so glad she told her because imagine if she waited and they, like, got married and have kids. Oh, yeah. It's overall. It's good. She knows. Yeah. No, you're right. It's good. It is overall good. She was informed. Like, she owes this. Yes. The mom did the right thing, of course. Yeah. It's just, yeah. I don't know if there was any other way about it. Say, I'm, like, walks in and locksize with the dad, and they flash back to the night they locked eyes over his mom. OK.
I said it, now you're saying it again. Well, I'm picturing it again. I'm a picture-er. Good. Well, let's move on so we can picture something else messed up. I love that. This next post comes from Am I the Asshole? Am I the Asshole for blowing up at my girlfriend after therapy backfired? Ooh. We need more. This is a 28-year-old man.
My girlfriend Emma, who's 27, and I have been together for six years. For most of that time, we've been happy, like really happy. The kind of relationship people say just works, you know? We were always on the same page, rarely fought, and genuinely enjoyed each other's company. But over the past year, things started to feel different. Small arguments here and there, warmest communication, and just this weird sense that we weren't as in sync as we used to be.
It wasn't anything major, just the usual wear and tear stuff, or so I thought, Emma however seemed to be more concerned. She started pointing out issues I wasn't even aware of, like how I supposedly wasn't listening enough or wasn't as emotionally available as I used to be. I admit I've been busy with work, but I thought we were doing okay. Still, I didn't want to dismiss her feelings. Then about six months ago, she suggested we go to couples therapy.
Now, I've always been a bit skeptical about therapy unless things are really bad, but I agreed because I figured it couldn't hurt. She said she found a great therapist through a friend and we should give it a try. I wasn't familiar with this lily, but Emma was excited about it, so we booked our first session. At first, the session seemed fine. Lily asked good questions, got us to open up, and gave us some tools to communicate better.
I felt like I was doing my best to listen and improve, but something about it felt a little off. Every time we talked about any issue, it seemed like Lily was always subtly siding with Emma. If I mentioned being stressed from work, she'd steer the conversation towards how I wasn't giving enough attention to Emma. If I brought up a disagreement, somehow it became about my communication issues.
After a few weeks, Emma started using phrases like, lily thinks you should try this, or lily says you need to work on that. It felt like everything I did was being scrutinized and dissected by this woman I barely knew. I didn't want to be paranoid, but it seemed like Lily was slowly convincing Emma that I was the problem in the relationship.
And every time I tried to voice my own concerns, they were brushed aside. I tried to push through it, thinking maybe I was just being defensive, but it didn't stop. Every session, the same dynamic, it was like Lily was planting seeds of doubt in Emma's head, and Emma was running with them. I even started to wonder if maybe I was the problem. Was I actually this bad of a partner? Things reached a boiling point a couple of weeks ago. During a session, Lily started suggesting that maybe we should consider a break so I could work on myself more.
That felt like a slap in the face. I'd been trying so hard to be better, and now she was suggesting we split up. I looked at Emma, waiting for her to disagree or defend me, but she just sat there, quietly nodding along. After that session, I couldn't hold it in anymore. I told her I didn't trust Lily's judgment, that it felt like she was just feeding Emma reasons to blame me for everything wrong in the relationship. Emma got defensive, saying I was overreacting, that Lily was just trying to help us work through our issues.
We didn't talk for a few days and I started feeling guilty for snapping. Maybe I was wrong. Maybe therapy really was exposing some flaws I needed to work on. But then something happened that blew everything wide open. Last week, we went to a mutual friend's party. While there, I overheard Emma and her friend Sarah talking in the corner, giggling about something. I caught just a bit of their conversation. I can't believe you pulled this off for this long. Poor guy still thinks she's an actual therapist.
I knew it. I knew it. I immediately confronted them. And that's when Emma's face turned pale. Sarah quickly tried to backtrack, but the truth spilled out. Turns out Lily isn't a licensed therapist at all. She's one of Emma's close friends from college who thought it'd be fun to help Emma fix me by posing as a therapist.
Emma had set this whole thing up because she thought I wouldn't agree to therapy otherwise. They figured that with Lily playing the part, they could guide me into becoming a better boyfriend without me knowing. I felt completely betrayed. For months, I had been spilling my heart out to someone who wasn't even qualified to help, and Emma had been in on it the whole time.
All those sessions where I felt attacked and manipulated suddenly made sense because I was being manipulated. When I confronted Emma about how messed up this was, she broke down, saying she never meant to hurt me and that she was just trying to help us grow as a couple. But honestly, I don't know how to move past this. I haven't been able to look at her the same since.
Now, Emma and her friends are saying I overreacted. That it was just a white lie meant to help our relationship. But I feel like I've been gaslit and lied to for months. So am I the asshole for blowing up on my girlfriend when I found out her therapist was a total fraud? Nope. Don't per ask. Bye, Emma.
That is so... That is a violation of your fucking privacy. First of all, I think this is unacceptable. There's no coming back from this. Completely agree. You're done. It is truly fucked up. That is inappropriate. It is over. I wonder if anyone in the comments has any sort of legal expertise.
He has legal precedent against this. There's stuff in writing that he can show, like, she posed as a therapist. Yeah, yeah. Foley. Well, also, though, just because there's also the rules with confidentiality as well. And if Lily is not actually a therapist and she's going around speaking to her other friends about this as well, that's definitely a case. I mean, look.
Oh, no. That's an immediate dumping. Awful. Never talking to this person. This is very, very cruel. And also then afterwards, it was a white lie. That's not a fucking white lie. Dude, this is crazy. I thought you were going to end it early, too, and I feel like I was going to be like, I feel like I'm predicting that Lily isn't actually a therapist, and then it actually got there.
I wasn't sure because I hear this a lot from friends to be like, I feel like my therapist always sides with blah, blah, blah. That is a known thing. But...
That's crazy. That's fucking insane. And also, like, I just don't understand as well, like, if she was also hoping for Lily to say, like, hey, suggest that we take a break or whatever, like, then she clearly isn't a part of this relationship. Anyway, she doesn't want to be a part of it, so I don't understand why she's still fighting for it. Also, it's so embarrassing, like,
All of her friends now giggle and laugh behind his back and know all of his, like, really deep, see this. And now he's never gonna fucking go to therapy again. Oh, my God. Yeah. These are some sick people. Yeah. I mean, truly sick people. Rule is the right word. Sick.
How could she sit in on those sessions for months knowing that this is the case? Like, you're sitting there next to your partner while they're spilling out, like, truly vulnerable stuff, knowing you're manipulating them and just completely going along with it. And your buddy from college is on the other side listening to them? Being like, yeah, we got him. And he's totally going to change. Outrageous. This is, like, horror movie level of sinister. I agree. Twisted. Also really torturous. Did they rent an office?
Where do they do this? Yeah, I don't like that at all. It's just not only like, yeah, you're absolutely turning another person against therapy, but you're also just twisting somebody's trust forever. Like now if a future partner is like, you know, we should do couples therapy now, he's gonna have to be over her shoulder and making sure that, you know, she's booking off of like something online instead of being like, yes, find us someone or whatever. Like it's just, it's gonna change the course of his life and that is so selfish to do.
Yeah. The comments seem to answer my question. Not the asshole, but what you should be doing is consulting a lawyer because Lilly was very likely practicing medicine without a license. Someone else said, I think you can actually take legal action and you really should. That stranger was pretending to be a licensed therapist. Used it to extort information you would not share otherwise and manipulated you with it. This has to be illegal on so many levels. Besides, did they also have to pay for those sessions? Oh, yeah.
Lastly, someone said, well, that relationship is over. Of course, she and her friends are trying to convince you that you're the problem. They lied and manipulated you into believing this woman was a licensed therapist. Why are you even taking their opinion into account? Their view on the situation is obviously skewed. Dump her and cut your losses. What unhinged behavior? Yeah, legit. I can't believe I'm saying this. Like, this relationship is even more over than Sam and the parents with the threesome.
Yeah. Oh, 100%. It's actually insane to say, I don't know what's worse to go through. Like, these are some horrendous situations. The therapist stuff. I think the therapist stuff is somehow so much worse. Well, this is so happy that my mom, you know, had a good time. You gotta stop that. It's like this, because this one was intentional. And this one goes on for a long time. Wait, how long? It said months.
Yeah, they were doing sessions for months, right? I put the friend literally do that. I'm thinking about Emma. And the friend is not getting paid. They were doing this for fucking shits and giggles. For fun. Yeah, for fun.
But like I really can't even get behind like Emma's perspective, right? How can you call yourself a partner and sit next to them, exactly what you were saying Shane, like how can you put them in such a almost like embarrassing circumstance of like- And then laugh at it at a party while you're there. They probably like look so foolish sitting on the couch too. This is evil behavior. Yeah, I don't like it at all. Yeah, evil behavior.
Oh my God. Is there an update? No. But I'm assuming he probably broke up with her. I hope he took legal action. I hope so too. Because I think, yeah, I'm sure there's enough proof if they're going about it. I think if you're trying to manipulate or change your partner, you need to decide, okay, either I'm not happy with who this person is and I need to leave this relationship,
I need to accept them, because when you get to the point where you're trying to change someone, you're in the wrong. Like, you're in the wrong, because it's just not how things work. Oh, my God. It's so bad for OP, too, just the way that he's, like, writing about, like, how doubtful he felt of his own feelings of, like, I felt guilty about this, and I wondered about that, and it's like... They've been in a relationship for six years.
That? I couldn't do this to anyone. Right. Let alone the person you're supposed to love. I couldn't do this to my enemy. To do this to someone that is who you cherish most. Right. Oh, my God. No, there's something I truly think. She's...
She needs to go to therapy. Yeah, Emma. And also he now needs to go to therapy. Yeah, right. If he didn't before, he needs to now because you need to unpack that. In her mind, maybe she was thinking, again, maybe there's ways that I can just tweak.
this man into the partner that I want him to become. And so she sort of put this plan together where she could make it happen, where he didn't have to know. And maybe in her head, she was rationalizing that and thinking that that would be okay. Well clearly, if she and her friends all thought this was fine, they all bounced off each other and convinced themselves this was okay, but they are.
Ugh. Yikes. Wow. Okay. Moving on from that. WTF. That is WTF. Okay. Okay. Our next story, let's see if this can beat the others. I don't know. Those were two of the craziest stories I've ever read on the show. Easily. I've heard crazier, I think. Okay. From you, I think I've heard crazier. Okay.
This is a 24-year-old woman. My boyfriend, who's 32, told me he was a doctor. I walked in on him behind the counter at Taco Bell. Oh, my God. Hey. Whoa. They need medics there, too. After I eat 10 tacos there, I need a doctor right away. I need an enema. OK. This taco is so good. Well, the guy who made it has a PhD in making tacos.
That makes sense. You good? All right, let's hear it. All right. I met him on an app three months ago. He said he was a doctor and that he did his undergrad in biology at an Ivy League school. Everything was going great. The sex was fantastic and he was very romantic, although he didn't like to spend a lot of money on me. Last night, I just happened to walk into a Taco Bell and saw him working there behind the counter.
We looked at each other and I went up and ordered without addressing him. Then I went home to process what I had seen. I tried calling him today, but he wouldn't answer. How could he lie to me like this? Do men do this often? I'm in absolute shock. Should I just forgive him for lying and move on with the relationship? Or should I dump him? I'm not sure if I would have given him a chance if I knew he worked at Taco Bell from the start, but I'm in love with him at this point. What do I do once I manage to talk to him again?
Well, don't be a weirdo in order from him and then pretend like nothing's happening. Like that's... There's nothing wrong with working at Talkabout, but he did lie. No, the lying is the problem here. Right. What did she order? She had like tears streaming down her eyes and she was like, crunch rub some cream.
How did she do that? And then walked out and went, he went, here's your change. Thank you so much. You have a good day, you do. And then ran, and then went home and typed on Reddit. This is all of them. I, ah, God. And they're in London. Why do you say he was a doctor? You know, come on. Why'd you do that? Because like, why'd you go?
It could go so intense. He's like, yeah, I got an undergrad in biology at an Ivy League school. Is he studying? He could be making money on the side? He could be. Ain't nothing wrong with fast food. He could be a student. We don't know. Sure. Well, now the problem is we don't know anything about him. Exactly. That's the problem with lies is then you don't know anything. Yeah, that's true. That's true. It could be a side hustle, you know, night shifts. Yeah. Been there.
He's saying he did his undergrad in biology at an Ivy League school. He has a lot of lies. He's a doctor. He's a doctor. Damn, that's scary. And also the problem with lying is like, she's gonna find out eventually. How long were you gonna do this for? I mean, maybe he was just kind of like not thinking that far. He was kind of like, there's no way this is gonna last. And he's like, well, shit, I'm in love and I work at Taco Bell.
He's probably an incredible person. Just don't fucking lie and say you're a doctor. Doctors like, oh. Well, and he really thought about that lie too. He thought it true. He thought it true, yeah. At Ivy League, like, well done, well done. He fucks himself. Because if I'm in his position, I think lying is bad. I wouldn't lie. But if you're going to lie, be like, I'm the manager of a Taco Bell.
Then she shows up and she's like, hey, he's just like, hey! Get back to work! Get back to work! What are you guys doing? I'll take your order because I know you. Okay, I'll take your order. I'll remember when I was here. I'll mock the floor if I can.
The name text is like, busboyed. Oh, little one. Not the manager. He's like, oh, that's a little joke we have. Mike, can you clean the toilets? I will because I can. Because I'm a deemed player.
Um, comments. It is not normal for people to lie like this. It is especially not normal to start a relationship off with such a big lie. Like, others have said, who knows what else he is lied about or is capable of lying about? I'm sorry, but I personally think it is best for you to cut your losses now. For all you know, you are just in love with a fake character he created to woo you. Woo. That is true. That is now, now... That's the truth. I think she's got to address it, though, to find out more. Totally.
But she had to get her food first. Right. After she eats, she can talk about it. Someone said, I'm in love at this point. No, you are not. You don't even know this man. The only thing you know for certain about him is that he is a liar. You are infatuated with the idea of the man you thought he was. Time to grow up and realize the difference before you get really screwed over. Besides, I think he ghosted you.
He probably did go. Who is this person? Yeah. Like their mother. Yeah. I'm done with this. I mean, it's true. It's easy to fall in love with a doctor. But I don't think she fell in love with a doctor. She said the sex was great in Atlanta. Look, I'll say this, man. I've had some Taco Bell tacos, and I've been in love with whoever made it. Not a few hours after. Whoever made this, I love you. But then later, moving along.
I'm still at the end of the drive-through, just eating it, looking at them. Wow. Thank you. Thank you so much. But then hard not. No, I sometimes will eat some Taco Bell tacos, and I'll go back through the drive-through, just so that when I come back around, I'm saluting them.
Thank you for your service, ma'am. He's like, okay. Yeah. He's like, it's 3 a.m. They're wearing, they're wearing like doctor's coats inside Taco Bell now. Fucking Christ. They could. Lastly, someone said, my ex said he was a financial planner, but turned out he was just a bank teller. Some people will embellish the heck out of their jobs, but straight up lying?
Okay, that's a little different than that example. Yeah, he said the same thing twice. Dr. Taco Bell, not the same as... What if his lie was like, he's like, oh, yeah, I work at Taco Bell, but it turns out he works at Dell Taco, and it's like, sorry, I can't do it. Right, dude! Donzo! What if it was the other way around? Loyal to Taco Bell. He told her that he works at Taco Bell, but then she went to the hospital and he was a doctor. Whoa!
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I spoke to him again last night in person. He told me that he had originally started his profile as an experiment to see how putting a prestigious education and profession would affect his success on the app. He says it helped a lot.
He really has a liberal arts degree from a less prestigious school and has only ever worked fast food. He told me that his original intention was never to actually date anyone while lying about his profession. He said that when I started talking to him on the app, he wanted to continue the experiment just to see if he could actually convince me to meet him in person.
since other girls who had agreed to meet him before when they knew his real job had flaked. Then, when the date went well, he was afraid to tell me the truth. I told him that I forgive him, but I could not continue the relationship. I said that we could be friends with benefits, and he agreed. I think he was like... He's like, okay. Yeah, the sex was him. He's like, fuck, all right, I guess. Okay, I'll continue to have sex with you, but nothing else. But nothing else.
I was like, damn, this sucks. God, damn. She's like, can you bring me home with some tacos when you come home? He's like, sorry babe, we said just sex. Just sex. Not part of the deal. Not part of the deal. Oh, girly, that better be the benefits. Yeah.
Then we just hung out like usual and I still ended up sleeping over. So at this point, we're no longer officially in a relationship, but I will continue to see him as a friend for now as I consider looking for a new man to date. I will now be more open to dating fast food workers and other lower income men who are honest about their jobs. I'm not sure if this is the update anyone was hoping for, but it is what it is. So we're officially over, but not exactly.
I mean, that's great for her. She wants to, dude, just let him in, whatever. You think? I don't know. I mean, I don't, well, she forgave him. Well, yeah, but like you think just like date him again? She's basically dating him again. Come on, guys. I know it's for sure.
No, no, no. I mean, I think she's doing that because she's like, well, I'm lonely and now I'm no longer gonna consider you as a lifelong partner, but I'm gonna have fun now. But now she's gonna date his coworker Taco Bell because she's considering other good food workers. She could. I think ultimately that feels like a situation that you should either completely walk away from or be like, I completely forgive you and we can keep seeing each other. Yeah, exactly. That's, yeah.
It does kind of suck though, like, to put on your profile where you work and people flake on you. That does suck. Well, this speaks to, this is why I hated dating apps. They're just the worst. They make, they bring out the shallowness and they boil us down to two-dimensional beings. Like resumes and how tall you are. Cause yeah, cause, I mean, truthfully, like, you know, here she was being like probably gonna, she says, I would have said no, had it listed that he worked at Taco Bell.
And then she met him and they had, like, a strong connection and stuff, but dating apps make you pass on people you probably would actually have the best time. Yeah, your job isn't everything. No, it sucks. No, and I think that that's a fair argument, but I don't think that it lends itself to allow him to lie on his profile. No, he lied. The problem is he still lied, and I think that's a deal breaker. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Right. This is, well, and once again, once again, he lied a bunch, which means
We can't necessarily believe what he's saying now of like this experiment thing. That's true. Here's all these things that happened. It's like, he proved he's a really good liar and he lied about a bunch of details that were not true. So he could be doing it all over again. That's my issue with lying. It's just like, all right, it's done for me because I can't trust you. Once you can lie that big, then you can lie about anything. It's just better not to, man. It's impressive, actually. And it sucks. Look, I, because I,
I understand in regards to being on a dating app and having aspects of who you are. You have to write it out and go, people are not going to pick me because of this. Yeah. And that sucks. Yeah. But you can't change that. You're going to change that. I'm just going to cause pain for you in the long run. Yeah. I got to kind of own it. Because then when you do meet someone,
And you're like, great. They are here because of all the aspects of me. Right. Right. Eventually, you want someone that's going to, like, you wouldn't want the person that's going to flake on you to be your partner. Right. That's not the person for you.
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It's a 29-year-old woman, my boyfriend, who's 28 of five years, has become infatuated with female Twitch streamers, and it's making me feel like crap. Uh-oh, story feels familiar.
Okay, so I knew he was into video games when we started dating. I'm basically the opposite of him in that department. I've never been interested in anything video game related. That entire nerd culture is not for me. Mind you, I have made an effort to understand his hobby and over the years, I've even found games I enjoy playing. But I would definitely not consider gaming to be a hobby of mine. I'll play rhythm games like once a week for an hour at most, for example. In the beginning of the relationship, first couple of years or so, it was pretty difficult getting through to him because he was constantly on World of Warcraft.
We had to set boundaries later on because I found he wasn't making any time for me and he was constantly on Twitch either watching or streaming himself or playing World of Warcraft or League of Legends or whatever else. It got pretty bad, but we worked through it. His obsession with Twitch kind of dwindled down and we were both seemingly happy. However, and I feel dirty even writing this, I feel worthless and absolutely disgusting and unwanted. Please don't judge me too harshly.
One night before bed, as I was getting ready to lay down, he was watching a stream on his tablet of some famous Twitch female streamer. I happened to glance over and she was pretty scantily clad, big nerd glasses, tits hanging out. I thought, whatever, it's just him watching a game. This went on for a few nights in a row, each time it was a different girl, he'd watch for a bit, turned it off, and immediately want to have sex. I've secretly felt like shit over it, but I guess last night kind of broke the camel's back.
He set up a stream, started coming on to me in bed, and left his tablet propped up on the night table. I was going along with his advances, but attempted to close the tablet when he told me, no, leave it on. I want to watch her while I do you.
I was pretty much in shock, didn't know how to respond, started crying and left for the night. He didn't even really attempt to stop me. I got a half ass sorry as I was leaving. Thankfully, my parents live like five minutes away, so I spent the night there. Since I left, he's attempted to call twice and has texted me twice. One text was to tell me I'm overreacting. Am I? How do I approach this?
I thought we were over it. I thought we had a decent relationship, but he clearly prefers watching women play video games over just having sex with me. Do I approach him or wait for him to approach me? Ouch. This sucks. That is really, really painful. That's a bummer.
That's... For the record, I don't think that is overreacting. No, it's not overreacting. No, not at all. No. I think that's so, so valid. Honestly, I was with her, even with watching the streamers right before bed and it just being like...
different female streamers every single night. And constantly, I was like, okay, I'm with you. I could definitely see where some of that comes from. And then just actually having it propped up. And saying, he literally said it. Don't, like, don't put that down. Yeah. That's immediately crossing the line. And yeah, she's left the room crying, and you're like, sorry.
I don't even think he said sorry. You're overreacting. Yeah, you're overreacting. I hate it. I hate it. I don't think. You should just be alone with his Twitch streamer. Yeah, there's a lot of elements here. He literally says, I want to watch another woman while I'm doing you. That's so...
That's so mean to do to her. That would make anybody feel like they're settling. Yeah, and what he's also doing here, there's another aspect of this, is he's introducing something to the bedroom without her consent. This is an element, there are couples out there who do watch things while they have sex, but you have to talk about that. You have to talk about that. Not bring it in in the middle of it, and trick her into it. Yeah, and then when someone says no, you go stop.
No. No. Yeah, no. So it's, you're not communicating with your partner what your needs are. Instead, you're just kind of like completely zoning into an obsession. Yeah. What it seems like. Yeah. This is just...
I think this would make anyone feel bad about this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. And again, there's clear signs as well in the way that she's writing. She's not paranoid. She's not panicking. She's just clearly laying out the signs that this pattern is happening where he's clearly aroused after watching these females. Yeah. And he clearly has a type because he's always been into gaming. So I think it's so natural to initially draw some assumptions and then for it to actually play out
and get hurt, that exactly what you were predicting and dreading happens right in front of you. That's got to be so painful. This is brutal. Comments here. He wanted to watch the stream while you had sex. Oh, fuck no, just no. And he has the cheek to say that you're overreacting. I mean, if you want to still be with him, then you need to be honest. Tell him it isn't acceptable. Don't let him convince you that it's no big deal.
Someone else said, not only is it ridiculous that he would ask that of you, but something I don't want you to overlook is that he is trying to invalidate your feelings and blow this over as soon as possible by telling you you're overreacting. He knows he messed up and his defense is to completely ignore the way you feel and instead try and shift the focus on you and you're overreacting. That's bullshit.
I think you should respond and just say you need some time away from him to think and take whatever time you need. But there are some crazy red flags coming up in this story. Opie responds, saying, yeah, last night kind of solidified my not wanting to continue with this relationship. I'll make an update post eventually, but we basically got together and the whole time it was just him invalidating my feelings and defending himself.
Not just about last night, but he brought up shit I thought we were over from years ago. It's just not worth it at this point. I'm exhausted and I haven't really slept. Work is kicking my ass. Ugh. Lastly, someone said, you're not worthless or disgusting. What your boyfriend did was extremely disrespectful and you are right to be upset. Watching scantily clad girls is one thing. Plenty of people like to watch porn or other similar things. What he's doing is basically using your body while he thinks of other people, which is pretty gross. Be firm with your boundaries. So gross. If he still brushes it off, then you should probably get a better boyfriend.
Yeah, goodbye. Yeah, and to be... They've been together for five years too. So he's clearly just like, yeah, using her. So wait, they've been together five years. He's never done this before? I don't think so. I think this is new, but... Text him. Let me text him.
Well, we have him behind door number one. We're gonna get some more info because we have an update. Oh, my God. Last night, I decided to get together for coffee with him, mostly because my mother urged me to. I never told her the extent of what exactly happened, but she knows it's video game related because we've gone over this problem before in the past.
Anyway, I initiated the conversation via text and he agreed to meet me. I guess I don't know what I was expecting. Closure, maybe? Because I was pretty sure I wanted to end it and stop trying to work things out because I've been working things out for the past five years. It's just become tiring. Anyway, he got into defense mode right away, basically listing all the things I've done wrong in the relationship and why he's over me.
These are the things I've done wrong. I declined going to Korea last year for vacation. He so badly wanted to go. I knew if I went, I'd be left alone every day because his buddy would have come too. Also, there was a big League of Legends tournament happening at the time. So he would have been doing League of Legends related things and mentally masturbating to the cosplayers all the time while I explored the city alone or hung out in a hotel. I said I wasn't interested in going. He got huffy but eventually got over it or so I thought.
Two, I changed my appearance even though I knew he liked women with long brown hair. I decided to cut my hair fairly short and bleach it blonde not too long ago. It was time for a change anyway, and I'm very happy with how it turned out. He was not.
Three, I always refuse to wear revealing clothing. He'd constantly badger me about how I don't wear enough stuff that shows off my tits and legs. I'm fairly modest, I'm not into that kind of stuff. I'm more comfortable in a t-shirt and jeans. He'd want me to wear sundresses and plunging tank tops. I always said no. I hate tank tops.
For my birthday gift this year was a pair of those giant wrap around headphones, headgear. I don't know what they're called. All the Twitch streamers are wearing them, but he spent a fairly good amount of money on them, which sounds sweet, I guess, but I had originally complained that my old headphones suck and I need new ones for the gym. He got me these bulky ones and got upset that I don't wear them much. He's asked me in the past to wear them, put my hair in pigtails and wear revealing clothing around the house while wearing my glasses. I'm not even kidding. This guy is a major stereotype.
Whoa! 5. I didn't play League of Legends and I didn't enjoy sitting on the couch watching him play Hours of League of Legends. I don't know how to play the game. I tried numerous times. I suck. I didn't enjoy myself. Why would I keep at it? 6. And I was not open-minded about anything. This is pertaining to the situation in the OP.
I'm not open-minded enough about being his fleshlight, so this hurt his feelings too. I'm not accepting of his kinks, which is a total fucking lie because I've agreed to do some pretty out-there stuff in the past to appease him. I'm very open-minded about sex. I would have appreciated a forewarning about the Twitch girl joining us in the bed though.
Seven, I don't get along with his friends. I tried so hard. I tried to relate to those guys like you wouldn't believe, but they all literally have zero social skills. They're awkward and blatantly ignored my existence whenever I was around. They'd start talking about things they're interested in and just disregard anything I ever said. They'd invite him to board game nights asking if I'd be going to, like they don't want me there. I was pretty much an outcast, so no, I tried. They just didn't want me to be around.
So, in conclusion, I told him I was done. He didn't really react dramatically. I think he's done with the relationship, too. He can watch all the Twitch he wants now and play League of Legends for 24 hours a day. That must be quite a relief. I'm going to the apartment to pick up whatever I can later. I'm staying with my parents until I find a new place.
I feel oddly calm and okay with everything that's gone down in these last couple days. This is almost a relief, thanks. So he was just objectifying the show. Oh, 100%. Oh my God. And again, just trying to craft her into what he wanted her to be. Also, no one ever needs to sit on the couch and watch you play League of Legends.
No. Uh, hello? No. It's a real shame too, because she really does sound like a really great partner. Yeah. And he fumbles. Well, she'll find a better boyfriend. Oh, she's going to be absolutely fine. He, however, hasn't left his computer. Oh, he's going to be fine, too. He's going to be just fine. He's not even there anymore. He's plugged into another one. He's got his black phone. He's plugged in like mute. He's like, great, I don't need you either. Yeah.
of wires coming out of every part of his body. It's like, I'm in the net now. I am now free. I have no contact with humans anymore. Oh, God. Jesus. God, I hate that. Yeah, that's us. That was gross. That was pretty gross. That was really gross. Can you believe they were at a coffee shop? And he was saying these things out loud in a coffee shop, like thinking he's justified. He's there in front of other people probably being like, you wouldn't wear revealing clothing. Plunging tank tops.
You change your hair and you know I like long brown hair. He took all that to chat GBT and chat GBT laid out the 10 bullet points. Oh, that was awful. I hated that so much. All right. Wow. His friends probably sucked ass. Yeah. All right, buckle up.
This comes from M.I. The Asshole and Best of Redditor Updates. So we're going to get some pictures. Whoa! M.I. The Asshole, newlywed husband, who's 32, wanted to wait till marriage for sex and just surprised me, 27-year-old woman, with micro-penis on the honeymoon. So we only dated for six months. We've been engaged for another six and just got married on Saturday.
I literally just got back from my honeymoon a couple hours ago. My husband isn't a religious guy. He just says he is old fashioned like that. We got close to fooling around a couple times, but it never went far. I tried, but he always stopped after it went too far. Anyway, fast forward to now. Am I the asshole for reading into this and being upset that I waited until my wedding night to find out that he probably isn't as old fashioned as he says he is? I'm not going to shame him, and honestly, I don't even know how I'll broach the topic.
And I'm not seeking advice. I honestly just acted like nothing was out of the ordinary and went to town with him, but I don't know. I kind of feel lied to, like a half-truth or something was intentionally withheld from me. It's tough because he's like, he withheld something. It's like it's clear like he did this for this reason. He's insecure about it. And it's like,
You need to be up. It's similar. In ways, it's similar to me as the Taco Bell thing of, like, don't you want to marry someone to know, like, that they... You have to be up front. You've talked about it all the way. It's almost a little bit like you trapped her, just to, like, the smallest... Yeah, sorry. I feel for this guy, because he's got to feel really insecure about it. Yes, right. Jews are very insecure... Absolutely so. ...about their penises. And I...
One of my favorite subreddits is the subreddit for sex, where people talk about sex stories, or just they bring up dilemmas like this all the time. And the thing is, there's plenty of people... There's plenty of people out there who don't care. Like, and... Right. How great would it feel for this guy to meet someone and know, like, she doesn't give a shit. Exactly. Like, she's all live. Right. Right. Because then it also has the added layer of, like, so you're not embracing it.
Yeah. Like, if you're hiding it, you're also like, this is something that is bad and worth hiding. And it's like, no, just be trapped. Work with what you've got. Exactly. It's what you do with what you've got.
Yeah, it's another one, like, she was gonna find out eventually, like... Yeah. ...some comments. In both cases, if sex is important to someone in a relationship, yeah, those are things that should have been discussed before marriage. Someone else said communication is important, possibly the most important. Almost nothing else matters if you can't communicate openly and honestly with your significant other. Okay, OP commented, for all of you who keep asking, it's about an inch and a quarter.
I didn't ask. I kind of feel bad there of, like, I mean, it's all anonymous, but, like, if you're not... For some people, like, obviously, there's people who are on the asexual spectrum, and that's part of sexuality. If you are someone who is not interested, you need to talk about that, because find that person. But if sex is an important part of your life, that is... And it's important for your partner, and you agree, like, oh, we're gonna have a sex life,
If you're not going to have sex before marriage, then you need to talk about everything. You need to talk about everything and also, like...
Dude, you also have to, like you said, you have to be proud of what you have so that you can meet someone who's like, yeah, man, I'm in. Yeah, yeah. Well, because that's a lot of the times where people, like, that's the opposing side, right? People are like, no, I actually would like to find a partner that I'm sexually compatible with, and then I can do a long-term commitment. Like, sometimes even before somebody becomes like boyfriend and girlfriend, it's like, that's an important aspect of it. Right.
I completely agree that, like, if you're not going to engage, at least, in the physical aspects of it, still communicating about it is just as important. This has me thinking, like, they really did not talk about sex at all. Well, they... Because, like, they're not talking about, like, what they're... And they would get... They would kind of fool around, but then they would get... He'd be like, oh, that's too far. And they'd be together a year. Six months. I know. It's been a short amount of time. Six months of dating, maybe that's what that was. Yeah. Which also, that's quick. It is pretty quick. Update.
He says it's only a matter of time before someone leaks his name. He saw the post through an old friend of his who knew he had a micro penis and saw on his Facebook that he had just gotten married. He doesn't know who else the guy is told to link him to it. I feel like I am the asshole. He is crushed that I posted about him.
I confronted him last week about intentionally keeping this from me, and he said he was sure I would leave him if I knew about the size prior to the wedding, and that he wanted to talk before the wedding, but feared it being called off because of his micro penis and said it if both families found out slash gossiped about it, he would be crushed, which is basically what I did with the entire world via Reddit. But he didn't know this until last night because I never told him that I posted on Reddit when we talked.
OK, the problem with his logic is like, oh, you would have left me. So now that we're married, you can't leave. You can't leave me. Yes, that's right. Nothing. But also, nothing changes. Just when you get married, you can still like.
Yeah, you can leave. That type of logic is not good. I've never understood that type of logic, but I didn't marry you, so you can't leave. It's like, what? Yeah, divorce. What are you talking about? I was thinking of yours immediately, it doesn't... But also... A nomen. He didn't give her an opportunity to process it. He didn't even give her the chance to make a decision on her own. That's what bothers me the most. It's like, fine, okay, you have a micro penis. It sounds like he's dealing with that and that's hard, but it's like,
Dude, you got a fucking... What? Who could tell her? What I got from all of that is that his main worry inside of all of that became who else is going to find out. That is his big insecurity. He clearly...
is so, so, so ashamed of this, so much so that he is lying about it until he gets married. He's stopping any sort of sexual activity before, like, just even, again, she was saying that, like, they would fool around, but then he would stop, like, that means he would stop literally
sooner than she would be aware of what's going on down there for him. Like, he is very clearly, you're right, dealing with something. And I think that needs to be addressed on his part. But yes, his actions have thus affected other people involved, including trapping this woman, which is like, yeah, you're insecure and you're dealing with something, and we are empathetic of that. But now that it has affected this woman, it's crossing a line.
And look, physical insecurities are a rough thing, especially with things you can't change. But you can't let that, like, you can't let that...
You can't let that dictate your whole behavior and let that insecurity like fester within you and make you lie. And make you lie, else's decisions. Yeah, like he needs to, he needs to probably go to therapy and talk about this and like work through this and be okay with this cause it's like, it's a reality, you know? And also maybe, okay, maybe going to Reddit wasn't the best idea. Sounds like maybe she should have talked to him, but they both clearly just didn't talk to each other.
No. Yeah. No, I mean, there's a lot that seems off in this relationship.
Yeah. Yeah. That's tough. I mean, I think she was also probably scared, you know? She was also just like, you know, definitely maybe not like as feeling like, okay, I can't leave this man. Cause like we've said, you can divorce, but I'm sure that she has also felt like, well now what am I supposed to do? I've made it this far kind of thing or I don't want to upset him because of this, but it just puts her in this tricky position of like. It makes her look like an asshole.
But the first, and that's kind of what's sketchy about this is this was kind of manipulation. This was chess moves to put her in a place where she can't leave. And that to me is like the problem here. We're not talking about a penis. We're talking about what he literally said to her was if you'd known before you would have left.
So I did this so you wouldn't leave. That's not behavior of a couple who wants to spend the rest of their life together. Yeah, yeah. Should be there for each other. You can replace the micro penis with literally anything else that you would consider a deal breaker, and it's still wrong to withhold that information. Anything that you're gonna reveal after the marriage that you're like, you would have left if you had known. Completely flawed logic. Absolutely. Any more updates? No.
What did she do? That's tricky, that's tricky. I do acknowledge the like, again, like it's gotta be especially challenging to feel, again, I think he feels alone. Like I think he definitely just feels like, you know, he's not happy with the cards that he was dealt. And he's just kind of like trying to navigate and do what he thinks is best. It just unfortunately,
You're right, it became manipulative. And so for that reason, it's like we're gearing more toward him being the asshole, even though she is put in the position of going to Reddit and coming out to be the asshole, if that makes sense. Moving on to our last story here. Am I the asshole for marrying a man who proposed to me while I was on the toilet? So he proposed to her while she was on the toilet. We'll find out.
It's not as bad as it sounds. My friends are just obsessed with that part, I think. Fake names. My, this is a 32-year-old woman. My fiance Peter, who's 30, had arranged a candlelight dinner in a hotel room. There were flowers, rose petals, and music. There was my favorite dinner and my favorite dessert. Peter was in a tuxedo. I was wearing a dress. That evening was so amazing. While I was eating, my IBS started to act up. I ran to the bathroom. It was mortifying, but at least I was comfortable enough with Peter to allow him to come in.
I was apologizing for ruining our evening while I was on the toilet and he said it's okay. I felt like he wanted to ask me to marry him the whole evening. I told him I love him and he said I love you too. I told him I'm sure you'll take care of me in sickness and in health. That comment made Peter smile and he got down on one knee.
I didn't care that this was the situation. I was so happy to say yes. I felt like he wouldn't have asked that evening if I didn't say the insignisant in health comment. I told my best friend Kate, a 33-year-old woman, and another friend Bailey, 33, I told him the truth. Kate said it's weird, creepy, and an asshole move on his part. I explained that he likely would have put it off if I didn't mean the health comment.
Yeah, whatever. Kate said I was desperate and that I should have some respect for myself. Bailey said, if I thought Peter would ask another time, then I should have let him ask another time. Before talking to them, I thought I had the sweetest proposal story. Now I feel like an asshole who caused my amazing fiance to have a terrible story.
Okay. Am I the asshole? No, your friends are the asshole. They're the thing that's shitty. Literally the only people that, the people who decide if a proposal story is romantic are the people in the proposal story. It's a privilege to get the story first-hand ladies. Yeah, bro. Listen, she had IBS.
She fucking had to go and he loves her so much that he was like, I'm gonna propose to you because this doesn't bother me. It's also, if you're her friends and she tells you that story and you think it's weird, they've already, it's already happened. It's done. It's done. Shut up. It doesn't matter what your, you say, you say that's awesome.
Yeah, you think it's good for you. It's good for you. And also, it is cute. It's super cute. It's so cute. She was shitting and he asked her. It's so cute. There's no trial. He's literally there in love with her while she's shitting her brains out.
It doesn't get better. They're sealed. He's in a tuck. They don't need. She's in a dress. They don't need the ceremony. The dress is getting better. There is no ceremony that's gonna lock you together. Beautiful. The amount of roses that got just destroyed in that night. And the food was getting cold. It's beautiful. It's gorgeous and dessert was served at the same time as dinner probably. And the waiter was like,
The waiter was like, where are they? The waiter wasn't there because the food's been done. He was like, will you marry me? And she went.
And he said, is that a yes? Is that a yes? Comments. Verdict was not the asshole. Yeah, of course. There was an asshole. Yes. Comments, this is the cutest story. Your friends are actually just jealous because they don't have someone who loves them and will put up with their shit. Wow. Wow. He's an absolute keeper, OP. Congratulations on your engagement, not the asshole. OP responded, the cutest story? Wow. I don't know what to say. Thank you so much.
Someone else said, who cares what they think? It's what you think. If you said yes and found it heartwarming, then there's your answer. Lastly, someone said it actually is very sweet. Your friends are the assholes though. He was showing you that you were safe with him. In a moment, you were likely embarrassed and very vulnerable to propose. It is incredibly sweet and funny at the same time. No one will ever have a story like this and it is the type of relationship people should strive to have. Not tear down, congratulations. So true. What if she meets other people and they're like, oh, Dave proposed to me while I was, I was shitting too.
It's just like everybody has that story. And then someone's like, and I fucked your parents.
And then she runs out. But you know what? It's actually so perfect though because it is like picture perfect because he was in the tux and she was in the dress and all of like the romance stuff is outside. But then you get the grounded realness of like what an actual partnership is like. Those are the best proposals. I personally think the proposals that are so like perfectly set up and everyone's there.
It's like, no, the proposal should be between you and your partner. And it's just like, the funnier the story, the better. Right, right. No, I think you said it best, Shane. Like, as long as the two people involved are like, I am so psyched about how that proposal went. That's all that matters. That's all that matters. You can hear the weirdest proposal story, but at the end of it, the person's like, and I couldn't be happier. It's like, well, then that was a successful proposal.
And great, and we're happy and we support you. That's all the matter. It's nice when you're doing it without people there.
because then you don't have opinions to mess with. Judgment, all of that stuff. It's, yeah. Shitty friends. Shitty friends. Shitty friends. Well, this was a roller coaster. Holy God. WTF! I'm very curious. Let us know in the comments what you think was the biggest WTF. With the parents? The parents. That was not the biggest WTF. The threesome parents was, there's chat GPT, there's threesome parents, there's fake therapist. Oh.
Fake therapist. That was pretty crazy. There was a doctor who works at Taco Bell. Oh. Ultimately. Ultimately harmless. There's the Twitch streamer, boyfriend. Oh, not harmless. Gross. But not as big WTF as therapists. Threesome. Threesome in therapists, I think.
I'm still, you know, partial this. Fine, those two. I think fake therapist and parents three- Forgot about micropiness. And micropiness. Thank you guys for watching. Thank you for being here. Thank you for going through this. Thank you. Thank you. This was a lot. Thank you. Yeah, comment down below if we should sit in Shane's chair and he should lay on the couch.
Comment down below how many tissues you think are crumpled up right here. Oh my God, gross. All right, thank you guys for watching. Let us know what you think the biggest WTF moments were. And let us know what other themes and subreddits you want to see on the show. And we'll see you next Saturday. Goodbye. Bye. Your pancakes out. Get your pancakes out. What does that mean?
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