Week 17, Fastest 2 Minutes, Commanders In The Playoffs, Joe Burrow MVP? Plus Playoff Seedings

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Sixteen. Seventeen. Week seventeen. We're on zoom teach. We're talking on the computer. Let's not pull. I'm Jeffery Tillman.

We start in Cincinnati in a game with huge playoff implications as both sticks prove that the Broncos are for real and isn't a grand illusion as he let the ball sail away sail away to Marvin Yankee hat with no Brims Jr. who

Who? No cap, ran up the bill scoring two touchdowns. But it was Joe Spiro that came out the victor, dunking on the defense, injecting T-shot Higgins, who said, yeah, we may have been gals, but now we are men. And even with the win, there were questionable decisions down the stretch, begging the question, will since he won a transition and remove sack Taylor. Bengals keep their playoff hopes alive, 30 Broncos, 24. Whoo! Whoo!

We go down to Sophie Stadium where it's Saturday Night Live with Kyler Bill Murray and it used to be a lot better with Aaron Norm Macdonald. Trey McBride's maid finally caught the bouquet and got out of the friend zone and into the end zone, but Puka make them dakoud and afraid as he pulled their pants down.

Marvin William Henry Harrison hasn't had a sick of inaugural season. As you think he would, since he can't catch a cold, the way his QB is coughing it up. And Chad, 1000 Ryland dressing is usually pretty solid, but dipped around and missed an extra point, leading to a situation where the cards are driving, but needed a touchdown and a callow from the other side. Big catch pinky, bad is still alive.

I'll tell you, I'm sorry for picking you off, but Kyler threw the ball in to make pride's mouth. Williamson steals the game and keeps the Rams into playoffs.

to sunday in the metal lands where the winless at-home giants were taking on the cults without their ar-15 but they did have joe tick flacko who went over the x's and o's and prep all week as he looked like prince albert the way he was tossing balls to wide receiver phallic pierce finding a hole in the d time and time again

Typically super bad Giants quarterback Drew cock must have looked at his notes But unlike the movie he never ended up getting the booze from the Giants faithful Magreek neighbors was the hero of the day as his skills Didn't peter out as he had the as he had all of the top targets kabobbing and weaving through the Colts defense on the way to the victory the G men the G men 45 Colts 33

We go down to Tampon Bay, where it's that time of the young as Bryce is back in the flow and the Carolina crampers are looking to stop the bleeding on a bad season as they spotted the box in early TV and then a touching tribute to my dear friend Jimmy Carter. Dave Panama Canalis turned it over and a contest some called, It's Must Lose.

and they got boat raced. Jimmy was a great man who came from poverty, and upon his block, and upon his block, LMAO, every day I'm Russell and, every day I'm Russell and returning at Forrest Gore, the box winning a blowout, 48, 14. And the first time in fastest two minutes history, we go to someone who's actually at the game, Max, who is at Philly.

Reporting live from Philadelphia for 2K Juan Barkley has officially etched his name into the prestigious 2000 dark cup. Kenny Chiplet's redeemed his performance from last week with two early touchdowns at a 24-7 halftime league. Not a big deal!

After an unfortunate injury, Tanner McKeegan Bradley looked like the people's quarterback while throwing his first touchdown pass of the year. But then AJ, what can Brown do for you? Express ship the memorial ball into the stands. After we all thought the ball was gone, AJ went to Big Don Corleone and said, someday I will call upon you to do a service for me. And that day is today, as Big Don was able to retrieve the ball for AJ to get to McKee.

We head up to Buffalo where Josh Allen was singing, that's Amare, as he finds him in the end zone for a 30 yard pass.

The bills weren't done as Keon, uh, Michael, oh man, went up over the jet secondary to possibly seal the MVP for Allen. To add insult to injury, the Jets, uh, let Tyrell shave in private Ryan, added a 69-yard touchdown in garbage time. As for the Jets, Aaron Rodgers looked like he was playing dodgeball out there, throwing the ball to the other team and getting unnecessary roughness penalties. He commented out for the game. Necessary? Is it necessary for me to drink my own urine? No, but I like it. I do it anyway because it's sterile and I like the taste.

No one shackles the wagons like the Buffalo build Thanks beeps Down to Jacksonville where yes people actually paid to attend this game Drug Peterson needed a win in this battle between crack Jones and free basin Rudolph But none of the but none of this game rocked Biden more time Peterson won't be a job hunter quite yet

Calvin Coolidge, Ridley, and Brian Thomas Jefferson had a tasteful homage to the late Jimmy Carter as neither went over 100, and much like our nation's capital, the rest need to lower the flags and let this game end. Jaguars 20, Titans 13.

We go up to Minneapolis where the Minnesota Vikings of Leon's sacks were on fire and they could really use somebody, Donald, to continue his great season. Jordan, I love sprinkles. Yes, it's true. Yes, I do. Was anything but a cupcake as the Vikings took a page out of Gordon Hayward's playbook and kept looking to Addison.

Josh, very cool Jacobs, had a nice score agami while Malik Heath Ledger almost made it a dark night for the Vikings until just in the nick of time Jefferson helped Minnesota take the top seed like a really tall squirrel. Vikings 27, Packers 25.

Standing on the coroutines with the sky of your host. Such a fine sight to see. It's too long, but this game was bomb for my enemies a lot technically. Come on, Jay! His team is hanging!

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week 17 in the books. We are watching the commanders and Falcons. We will update that at the end. Currently PFT. You guys are down and fighting. Fight down and let's just start off by saying that James Winston or excuse me, Jaden Daniels.

uh through interception in the first half. I know that Max wanted to see that also Max have you noticed that we start every NFL Sunday recap by singing the Eagles. Isn't that a little bit of a bias towards a little bit by this podcast? Fucking baby. There's cowboys fans out there. That was you came out hot right there. Max hasn't said anything, but you know he's thinking it.

And he's thinking it. No, I'm I'm on edge because we're down 17 seven and we don't look good. So I'm taking out a max. I apologize, Max. So we will update because this game actually has a ton of implications, not only for the commanders, but also for the Seahawks and the Rams. The Seahawks are hoping the Falcons win. So they have a shot in week 18. I guess it has some.

implications for my pinky as well. But week 17 in the books, and we will recap this game. We also should say this is our first podcast that we've ever done without Jimmy Carter alive. So are I P Jimmy Carter silence?

Do you think it was the Vaxacatum? I don't know. I think it was probably watching the Titans Jaguars. I was actually thinking about that a match. Like this early slate. There was actually some fun games out of nowhere. Like the Giants game was ridiculous out of nowhere. But to have that be your last.

uh... you know he died i think he died exactly a three forty p.m. so he might not have even seen the Giants win a home game this year uh... but to have that be your last nfl sunday that's brutal like i feel bad for jimmy he did he went to he actually went too young because he should have made it to the super bowl

yeah that would be nice uh i i was addicted to actually reading the tributes from all the various different like pop culture websites so like if you if you ran an account that had like a special logo next to it on twitter there's a mandate that you had to post something so i saw i saw tributes from trap ratchet tv film discussion

Popcrave. Here's my favorite Jimmy Carter stat. He outlived one of his obituary writers. I saw that. How fucking amazing is that? They wrote the obituary I think in 2017 and he just kept going as our good friend Big T put it like Jimmy just needed to stop building houses. Yeah. So they put him in hospice when he was still working on houses and he just got down off the roof and was like, oh,

Maybe I just shouldn't retire a long time ago and stop climbing up 20 feet in the air every day and nailing ceiling tiles down in the hot sun. There's also a chance he might not be dead because he was famously just not waking up some days. So if tomorrow they're like, hey, our bad Jimmy Carter actually still alive, I wouldn't be totally shocked.

No, it could happen. It could happen. Another great stat about Jimmy. This is from Jeremy Frank. He said that Babe Ruth hit more home runs in Jimmy Carter's lifetime than any currently active player. Right now, Stanton is in the lead with 429. Jimmy Carter famously saw Babe Ruth in Hock Toa.

Yeah. There's nothing, there's really nothing that we can say about the man that hasn't already been covered by my Francesa earlier when he was just like, Jimmy caught a dead, not a great president. Uh, it's cool though, when someone dies when there are a hundred, cause it's just free rain to make jokes. Like a hundred is way too old. Like dude, yeah, it's just, it was way too, way long past your expiration, dude. Yeah. You went to like four over times in Buffalo wild wings.

You don't really want to be 100 years old. Nobody wants to be 100. All your friends are gone. You don't understand anything. I guess you get some sweet discounts on early dinners, though, which is pretty good. But besides that, there's not a whole lot going on. Yeah. Yeah. R.P. Jimmy. R.P. Jimmy. He was a real one.

yeah and he was in a w l so one less listen for this episode so someone please step up and listen twice for jimmy uh... all right let's get into games so justice at the stage hank is uh... living his bennman's life right now he's traveling across country to new Orleans to see his favorite uh... band on new years and he's got like flight issues and then he just texted us and said that his bag is being shipped to germany

So I don't know when he'll join us. When he does, he will have to do his boomer in monotone and also answer some questions about the Patriots. But let's start with that game. Chargers 40, Patriots 7, just real quick. Jimmy Carter got shipped to Germany and he still did his job. That's true. That's true. Well, he didn't do his job today. Listen to his podcast. That's true. Yeah. Chargers 40, Patriots 7, the Los Angeles Chargers are in the playoffs.

insane turnaround by Jim Harbaugh, the king of turnarounds. These are Jim Harbaugh. So his last three jobs, he took over the San Francisco 49ers in 2011. The year before he took them over, there were six and 10 missed the playoffs. They went 13 and three lost in the NFC Championship game. In 2015, he took over Michigan, the year before Brady Hoke, who just didn't wear a headset on the sideline, looked like the dumbest piece of shit ever.

Michigan went 5 and 70 took over the team. They went 10 and 3. This year he takes over the Chargers who were a dumpster fire. Remember when the Chargers lost last year by like 70 to the Raiders? Chargers were 5 and 12 last year. They're 10 and 6 this year. They got rid of a bunch of their really good players.

Jim Harbaugh brings the culture, he brings the change. And all of this is to be said without even noting his like most insane turnaround, which took two years, but Stanford football that he made like a real program in two years time. So he, that's what he does. And the Chargers are back in the playoffs and they're a functional team. And I know it makes Hank so mad that the Chargers, if they can win next week and the Steelers lose, could be playing the Texans and which is a very winnable game for this Chargers team.

Yeah. So I was thinking about Jim Harbaugh and his turnarounds and the thought occurred to me that that some NFL coaches might not really, you know, they say they care about winning and they want to win, but Jim Harbaugh needs to win. He has to win. If he doesn't win, then he might as well be dead. Like that's Jim Harbaugh's reason for waking up in the morning is to like win every single encounter that he has. He's addicted. He's some people say like I'm addicted to winning.

he's actually addicted to winning. If he took winning away from him, he would go through withdrawals. He would need to lock him in a padded cell. And you remember when we were with him for training camp, and he kind of gave us that look where we're like, oh, how are you guys going to be this year? And he's like, kind of like, hey, you know, we're going through some things. We're changing over the roster. There's a lot of young players that have to, but he gave that look like I wouldn't bet against Jim Harbaugh. Like, I'm going to do something here. And they did. And like, Lab McConkie,

Outside of Malik neighbors who will get to and Brian Thomas he lab and cocky was the eighth receiver picked in the draft He's the third best receiver so far from that draft. He was insane. He went He's top 15 in receptions yards and touchdowns in the whole league not just rookies

And it's like everything JK Dobbins got healthy. It feels like the Chargers like I don't they're not going to win the Super Bowl, but they could make some noise. Because I feel like we've been since to a lifetime of every time. Lad McConkey has a good game just getting incessant texts from Jerry O'Connell. Just like.

Why didn't he do that in week 16? Where was this in week 16? Just heads up, guys. I drafted in week 16. Sorry. We're just going to be like updated on everything with his life via those texts. But yeah, the chargers look good. They dominated the Patriots. Wasn't really close. Got a little stone smart action going on. And JK Dobbins is back. Yeah. And that's huge massive.

Yeah, I mean, depending on on the way the the postseason schedule shakes out, they might they might win a game. Who knows? I want to play the Texans. Yeah, they're they're playing better football than the Texans right now. I don't know playing the Ravens. That would be very difficult because the Ravens look unstoppable at this, you know, in December. But yeah, I mean, if they play the Texans and then, you know, if they if they if it breaks out and they play the Texans and then they go maybe play the Chiefs hard to beat a team three times.

It's true. They're going to lose the Chiefs, but it's still I'll say all week. It's hard to beat a team three times and then the team will make it look really easy. It's one of my favorite things to say. I don't think that it's true. Look it up. I actually know. Let's not look it up. No, I think we did look it up and it was proven not to be true.

Yeah, I don't want to know if it's not true, but it's good to say. I mean, there's a lot of tape out there for how about a study now. I don't know. Weirder things have happened, but I guess if he goes up against his brother, then that adds up a whole new dynamic to it. Like the parents will probably be at that game and he'll need to win that even more.

You never know. Obviously the Ravens are a much better team than the Chargers, but yeah, great, great turnaround. And it's crazy because with the Chargers, you know exactly what they need to add this off season. Like it's very clear that, you know, this was, this was not going to be a one year turnaround, but getting to the playoffs in year one. That's why whenever anybody says it'll take you five years to fully rebuild a football team or full of shit. That's somebody that wants to give themselves a five year runway to suck ass.

Well, it also like this Chargers turn around if you want to call it that because it's there. They did get rid of a lot of players and they've had to like get young, but it was all. I mean, it was Justin Herbert and you needed a coach who was going to bring the most out of Justin Herbert who, you know, it's not like he was playing bad before Jim Harbaugh showed up, but he wasn't playing to his like full potential. And Jim Harbaugh is just, I think if you just are around him enough, you'll just have confidence to be great at your job.

Like, you know, when he told us about Spongebob, he's like, I respect Spongebob. He's a hero of mine. He just does his job every day. Like Jim Harbaugh, if you just put him in any setting, everyone's going to work harder and get the most out of like their, you know, they're going to be the most efficient they could be.

I think he reminds everybody of how much they cared about winning when they were in middle school. Yeah, that's what I think. He never he never got past that. Like he was a sore loser from day one. And all the guys in the NFL at some point had that same thing in them. A lot of them still do, but like some, you know, it's a profession. They get to work, they grind, whatever. But like being around a hard ball, you're like, Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I only care about showing my teacher how fast I am.

It's very funny to think now of like Jim Harbaugh losing and going into the locker room and like having to take a moment in his office where he just like cries and like, you know, like is like a eight year old. He's crying and he's like punching things. And he's like, why didn't I? Why didn't we win? It's like, well, you can't win every time. Like, no, that's not right. I want to lose or not fair. Yeah. All right. So we do have questions for Hank that will save when he gets on because

I feel like John Mayo, like he's got to be fired, right? They were going back. It goes back to what we talked about the other week, which is I don't think that craft wants to fire him because then that would be craft admitting that he made a mistake by hiring him in the first place. And he looks at the Patriots organization, his legacy as being like this very classy place where, you know, he thinks of himself like the Steelers, where it's like, we don't fire coaches, Willie Nilly in New England. But if you're

I mean, you're going to make the same mistake. The bear just made where it's like keeping a bad head coach around for a young quarterback is not a good thing. I mean, the Patriots did end up kind of winning the weekend because they vaulted into the number one seed, which we'll get to with the Giants game. But yeah, we'll ask Hank what he wants. So the next game, which was awesome. Bengals 30 Broncos 24 overtime thriller.

We deserve this game. The Bengals stay alive. The Bengals still need help. They need the Broncos and the Dolphins to lose in week 18 and they need to win. But the Bengals who were I think four and eight at one point are alive still have a playoff shot in week 18 next Sunday. And this was a crazy game because it was basically a microcosm of the Bengals whole season where their defense failed them at crazy times.

They're kicking failed them. Their coach kind of failed them. And Joe Burrow just kept on dragging them out of the mud over and over. He won this game three times. He won this game in regulation. He won this game in overtime. And then he won it for real in overtime after they got the ball back after the miss kick. He it was insane to watch. And Joe Burrow is I know he's not going to win MVP.

But I think he should absolutely be considered because what he's done, I was looking it up PFT. So Joe Burrow is going to finish. I think he has 42 touchdown passes right now. He leads the league and touchdown passes in yards.

there's no quarterback to throw. There's only one quarterback, sorry, to throw 45 or more touchdowns and not win the MVP. And that was Drew Brees in 2011. And the only reason he didn't win it is because Aaron Rodgers threw 45 and he won the MVP.

So if he throws three touchdown passes in week 18, it's going to be unprecedented that quarterback had the season he had and didn't end up winning the MVP. And his team is to blame, but you could make the argument. Lamar and Josh have been incredible. And like, I hope I selfishly hope Josh wins, but like there's no wrong choice. Sequin also 2000 yards. Joe Burrow has been doing this on a team where like he has no margin for error and he has to be this great week in a week out and no one's going to bail him out.

I'm just gonna say it, Joe Baro should be the MVP. Yeah, I said too much. I should have bet it. That's the thing I do. I'm a pussy and I don't bet it when I told everyone to bet it. Like, I think regardless of if they make the playoffs or not, Joe Baro should be the MVP. He's been the best player. And that's, I know that's not what the award has become.

But it should be like what who's to say what the award is the award is what it says that it is originally which is the best player the most valuable player in the NFL Yeah, and you can't get like how many wins do you think the Bengals would have if they had who's like the most perfectly average court deck if the Bengals had deck press got a brush How many no not Cooper he's too good if they had deck Prescott

How many wins do you think they'd have this season? They would not be playing for a playoff spot in week 18. I think they would have lost that game to the Cowboys. Yeah. Yeah. He would have gotten confused. He would have thrown it to the Cowboys.

Yeah, they would have definitely lost that game with the Cowboys. And so this was the third game or excuse me, eighth game with three touchdowns and 250 yards in a row in a row. But here's the crazy, crazy. Here's even better was that PFT. He's now done it 10 times this year. There's only four quarterbacks that have ever done that 10 times, 250 yards, three touchdowns in a game, 10, 10 times in a year. So 10 games, they did that.

The three others are 2007 Tom Brady MVP, 2013 Peyton Manning MVP, 2018 Patrick Holmes MVP. So again, another unprecedented, if Joe Broad doesn't win the MVP, all these other guys that had done the exact same thing he did.

They were just on better teams. They won the MVP. Yeah. All his numbers are MVP. His defense has kept it like if if if if the Cincinnati Bengals had if they had won one of those games against the Ravens and have beaten the Patriots week one.

They would have what 10 wins now. So they'd be 10 and six going and they would be in the playoffs. Would it even be a debate? Like he'd be the MVP? No. And regardless of if they make the playoffs or not, I do think he should be the MVP at this point, even though it goes against by Lamar Jackson future. I don't care. I'm willing to stand up and say like, you can take it. I've been lucky enough. Joe Burrow, he's done everything that you want him to do. And I don't want this to be looked at.

It's going to be a wasted season if they don't make the playoffs. And there's still a pretty good chance that they don't make the playoffs. Oh, I'd say high chance. It would be it would be the most wasted season. I think of all time or up there because Calvin Johnson, he had 2,000 yards one time with the Lions. I think they went three or four games that season. That was a pretty wasted year. Actually, just Calvin and Barry Sanders, both of them and the Chargers, the Chargers here where they were number one in offense, number one in defense and last in special teams in the playoffs.

Max Holman, the Ryder Cup. Yeah. Wasted season. Incredible season. Incredibly in the Civil War. Crazy. You put up wilt numbers. Great wild numbers. Tyree Smaxie this year.

Yeah, Jared McCain in November. I brought, I don't want to get into, you know, this show, we don't do media narratives for awards, right? Like we never push a certain narrative one way or the other. No, we go by the show. We go by the tape. I wrote something down. I'm not even going to read it.

I'll read it here. You know what? I'll text to Max. Max should have to read it. OK, Max will read it in Ravens fans. This is Max Delente. He's the one who's reading this.

Say something nice about the Broncos even though they kind of suck and I actually like weirdly want the Broncos to get in the playoffs so I can bet everything on the bills against the Broncos. Oh, Bonix throws the fuck out of the football. When he throws the deep ball, he throws the fuck out of it and I respect that. Yeah, that's true. All right, Max, say this. This is Max Cellante saying it, by the way. Max Cellante here. It's getting hot. It's funny watching.

Because we obviously were, we were kind of in the thick of the Heisman race, not having any wager and watching from afar. People are really angry about Josh, Lamar, Joe, like it's crazy. Like Ryan Clark, I think his brain is broken. He's just, he's just finding random people online and quote tweeting all of them to say anything about Lamar. It's like, dude, everyone, everyone knows Lamar is incredible. He's having an incredible season. He's having such an incredible season, Max has a step for it.

Yeah, here's a stat. Lamar against the Bengals twice, the Bucks once, and the Giants, which are three of the worst defenses in the NFL, and 18 touchdowns and zero interceptions.

Whoa, I don't like that stat. I think that's it. Oh, so he's not supposed to, he's not supposed to play good against bad teams. Yeah, that's a crazy stat, Max. Why would you say that? Oh, also Max, maybe, maybe their defenses are so bad because they have to incorporate the stats like what Lamar did to them. Yeah, true. As a part of it. Yeah. Yeah. And maybe, and maybe if like a running back breaks the single season rushing records, they should be considered for MVP too. Oh, in an extra game.

and 50 less carries. Hmm. Interesting. Oh, we did that in no, no less than 14 games. Yeah, Eric Dickerson, 16 games for Eric Dickerson. So one extra game. Uh, yeah, I don't know what to make. I mean, the Broncos like nice season. I still think they'll probably make the playoffs, although I kind of, I kind of feel like the Chiefs might win that game just out of like, here's, here's one thing that, that I makes no sense to me.

People being like the Chiefs don't want the Bengals in the playoffs. That makes no sense to me for this reason. If the Bengals were in the playoffs, they would be the seven seed and the Bills would be the two seed.

If the, if the Chiefs had to play the Bengals, that would mean the Bengals beat the Bills. If you ask the Chiefs, who would you rather play? The Bills are the Bengals. It's definitely the Bengals. Their defense has been so bad all year. The Bills beat the Chiefs. Like, I know that this like borough had thing, but which by the way is not even real because I think the, I think the Chiefs have beaten them the last three times they played. Like,

If you're a cheese fan, I think most cheese fans probably think this. Like, go ahead and let the Bengals in. Because if they somehow upset the Bills, that's an easier path.

Yeah, a million percent. They would much rather play that defense than play against the goals. And if you want a team that will give the Chiefs a puzzlingly good game and it'll come down to the last five minutes and the Chiefs will do something that will piss everybody off and win, then yeah, the Bengals, that would be the matchup that you're pointing at right there. Yeah. So in the last week of the season, we got maybe Carson Wits, although I heard that Mahomes is thinking that he might start.

I don't know because it's going to be a lot of time off of them. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. It's 25 days. I don't disagree with the fact that Andy Reid wants to start my homes. I don't think he should play the whole game. I think you're probably going to get like a quarter if they're up by like two scores or a half of my homes and then it'll be Carson Winston and Carson wins. All I know for a fact is that he will do something that will piss everybody off.

with the way it impacts the playoff race. If that probably going to be a tie, if you put Carson, if he starts that game and plays the whole game, it'll probably be a tie. Everyone's going to get confused. And then something's going to happen where you're going to be like, God damn it, that sucks that Carson when started that game. Yes. Agreed. And also, I don't know if you want to start patch from homes against a Broncos defense, like Zach Allen had three and a half sacks on Joe bar about sex seven times on on Saturday. Like, you know,

I get 25 days is a lot of days. So memes you just sent this the chiefs are three and all against the Bengals in their last three like it's Yeah, they play him tough, but again the bills are more complete team than the Bengals if you if you're in a must win game in week 18 and you need help Something went wrong during that season that makes you not as scary of a team

I don't think you want to play Josh Allen or Joe Barrow in the playoffs if you're cheap, but if you have the choice, you're going to take the Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah. Yeah. And it's not, it's not really that close. And I get it. Like you would maybe have to play the Bengals and then also the Ravens were in another way you'd maybe have to play the chart. I get it, but I'm just saying like, I don't think the Chiefs as a franchise are scared of anyone at this point. Like it's just not, that's just not how they operate. No, they just, they should be afraid of anybody.

Yeah, they just win games. OK, so yeah, I don't. The bonus drive to tie the game was sick. That was like 89 yards and 70 seconds. But the Broncos like they're limping in right now. And it's not like they're bad. It's just they've had to play a couple teams that are better than them. And they've kind of been exposed for that.

I also think the Broncos are kind of irritating for the casual fan to watch because they cycle their running backs around so confusingly. You have no idea who's going to be getting touches in the red zone, no idea who's going to be getting touches on third down. It's just hard to figure them out. It's like they're anonymous crush defense. They thrive on just being interchangeable.

Also, I love that Zack Taylor was like, yeah, Chase Brown got hurt. So we had to abandon our plan. It's like, you could have just stuck with the plan, dude. Like totally botched that where he scored on the next play and didn't even make the Broncos use their last time out.

that's the other thing that that ending sequence right there were chase brown did the right thing he went down like what the two-yard line well self down he got injured doing the right thing like if he if he kept going he wouldn't have got injured that's what I'm saying so he he tries to do the right thing goes down like the one or the two to kill the clock let them in with the fuel goal if they want or

Probably the smarter thing would be run the football, let them burn a time out, and then try to score touchdown afterwards. So he tries to do the right thing, and then they just go ahead and score on the next play anyways. And then the game goes to overtime, and he's injured, and he's watching. He's like, why the fuck did I did that? Like it makes no sense. So yeah, Zach Taylor, I don't know, do you think Zach Taylor, is he safe? How safe is Zach?

I think he's safe. I mean, the Bengals have to pay T Higgins. I don't know how much he's going to get paid a lot of money. But if that was T Higgins last game, a home game in Cincinnati, I want a way to go out because he had three touchdowns and like just absolutely abused Riley Moss.

I like you got it. This is the Bengals are I feel bad for Bengals fans because this is just you have a franchise quarterback who's playing MVP level who's ascended to a different level. You have the best for a wide receiver in the game and you have a cheap owner that might not pay for an insane weapon in T Higgins. And this season is like a you just can't waste seasons like this and they did they cheat. You know, they're just cheap ownership and it sucks.

Yeah, so you know what pisses me off is that it's not public information to find NFL coaches salaries. That should be listed. I know it's just like, it's not part of the salary cap, so the teams don't have to list it for any competitive reason. And why would a private business owner like list how much they're paying somebody if they don't have to? But that's bullshit, fuck that. We should not agree. I wonder how much everybody's getting paid. Because that way when they do something stupid, you can be like, oh, you get paid

$17 million a season to fuck up the end of the fourth quarter. And I do it for free. So I don't know what his extension is right now, but I think he I'm really that he makes four and a half million per year. So depending on how many more, not that much.

You know, that's the, that's probably the lowest of any NFL head coach. Like that's about the bare minimum, which shows that sheep ownership. And it also means that like, if he's got a couple more years left, they're probably not going to want to fire him because then you're paying. Yeah. Yeah. I think Andy Reed makes 20 million, which is actually a bargain. Yeah. Like when you think about it, um, okay.

Rams 13 Cardinals 9. The Rams are possibly in without having to play week 18. We're still waiting for the commanders Falcons game to end. But obviously a big win. They need this win. They are, I have a couple of statements that might bite me in the ass in a couple of weeks. The first one is I'm not scared of the Rams. Even though I have my pinky on the line, I'm not scared of the Rams. I think their offense is like broken.

They're running games, not. They're running games good, but they are now 11 straight games without scoring in the first quarter.

Three out of the last four games so that obviously the bills game was insane three out of the last four games I think they've scored like I don't know like 13 points a game and Cooper cup has been invisible in three out of the last four games or four out of the last five games Sorry taking out the bills game. He's caught seven balls for 70 yards in in four of the last five games I don't they just they just they start slow their defense is good their defense made some big plays against the Cardinals down the stretch

I just don't think they're a complete team that can win the Super Bowl. So I'm doubling down. I think that might be mostly on Matt Stafford though. Matt Stafford hasn't played well in like the last month. So yeah, Cooper Cup's been kind of invisible. The coup is still manages to put up some stats. But Matt Stafford hasn't, when was the last time he threw for even 200 yards? Well, he definitely did against the Bills. You got to take out the Bills game. Because remember the Bills game was just an insane up and down shootout. Big 12 game.

But yeah, he hasn't been that good since like November. Yeah. So I am, I'm not afraid of the Rams in the same way that I'd be afraid of other teams. Like the Eagles are like a way more physical team and they'll beat the fuck out of you. I would be afraid of what Sean McPhee is capable of in the playoffs.

I'd agree with that. I just think that he knows that he might have like an under matched team and that he has to do weird shit. That's what I'm afraid of. And this also comes down to the seating, how it's going to most likely work out. You know, he's going to be kind of stuck with the Reese. Yeah, because the Vikings or the Lions are going to be seated as wild car, but they're going to be better than whoever wins the South and whoever wins the West.

Right. Exactly. And same with, you know, the Packers you throw in there as well. Oh, big touchdown, not Brian Robinson. That hurts. Chris Rodriguez, Jr. The commanders take the lead 20 to 17, 13 minutes in the fourth quarter. But yeah, I just, again, this is going to probably bite me in the ass. The other statements coming later that's really going to bite me in the ass. I'll just, I'll give a preview right now. I'm not worried about the Packers at all.

Okay. Well, then beat the next week. How about that? These two statements are going to hurt me. Yeah. These two statements are going to hurt me. Say that. Say that after next week, please, because I need you to beat the Packers. I need. I need. We're not going to beat the Packers PFT. We're not going to. We will. The Bears will be lucky to feel the team next week. Half the guys are probably going to be in King Coon by the time kickoff comes around. Harbaugh would be disgusted. He would spit on you for this attitude. Yeah. Listen, I would. I want to spit on myself.

Pause. Cardinals, I just can't quit. I said it, I think I said it on Friday. I was like, or maybe it was last Monday where I was like,

Tyler Murray, I don't know how many more years I can do this. And then he was actually incredible. He made some big time plays except for throwing an absolute bullet off Trey McBride's face for the interception, which was very funny. And Trey McBride, shout out, got a touchdown. 98th catch of the season was his first touchdown reception. The second longest

Was key shot in 2001 he had 92 before he caught the touchdown pass, but uh, yeah I don't Kyler Murray is like there's weeks where I'm just like I don't want to watch this guy anymore and then I'm like, yeah, I actually could sell myself on him being the guy So I don't I don't know what I'm just confused about Kyler at all times

They were trying so hard to get that ball to Trey McBride, too. Oh, yeah. They did it. Like they ran like four or five plays just try. That was their Super Bowl was having Trey McBride score touchdown pass. And yeah, they tried to go back. That pass was very funny at the end. Kyler, I, yeah, I don't know, because when he's playing at his best, you can't really contain him. And he looks like he's a little magical guy. But then you get, you've gotten so much more of the bad Kyler as the season went on. Maybe Kyler was the one that he needs to absorb the Cliff Kingsbury stats.

Yeah, he, because he does, he fates, that team faded and they should have, they should have won that game against the Rams and the Rams just held on. And so see, I don't know, I don't know that that Ganon's safe either. Pupu. Pupu. He didn't do enough fuck shit. He had the one where he went for it on fourth and 10. I appreciated that, but it was not enough fuck shit for us to give him immunity for life.

Yeah, his game plan was just trademark bride. That's what he worked on. I think all week he just scheme plays for him.

Yeah. Okay. Let's go to Sunday. Eagles 41 Cowboys seven. Our guy Max was there. We got to hear everything about it. Also shout out pug. He was right about Tanner McKee. Three for four, two touchdowns. Tanner McKee is electric. He might be the future. And the Eagles win the NFC East continuing the streak 20 20th consecutive season that we haven't had a repeat winner in the NFC East. Max, you were there. What was it like? You got to you got to meet.

Nick Sirionny. I didn't meet Nick Sirionny. Great guy. Great Pison. Never said a bad word about him. I love Nick Sirionny. Yeah. Okay. I apologize. Nick Sirionny two weeks ago. I did not. That's true. It was it. It was a quick intro. It was a quick intro. I thanked him for.

thanked him for his service. He is now the first Eagles coach with two 13 win seasons. Very impressive. One of the most winning coaches in the NFL right now. That's a fact, kind of one of whatever. Nick Sirianni, my guy. What service did you thank him for? Being a good football coach.

Okay. And, and you got in big, big Dom, big Dom. You were with big Dom, who's our favorite. He was the best. He gave you game ball.

Yeah, Big Dom gave me a game ball. It was a wild day from start to finish. He brought me out onto the field. I watched all the guys go out for warmups to do their whatever. One of Big Dom's friends was just FaceTime with Pete Davidson, and Big Dom brings his friend over, and he was like, yo, Pete, meet my friend. And then he just showed me the phone, and it was just Pete Davidson.

So that's how the day started. And then he gave me the sickest seats ever, 50 yard line first row. Eagles go up big in the fourth quarter. Then he just starts acting like Santa Claus. He comes over. He gives me a game ball. He goes to my mom. He gives my mom a like a team issue beanie. It was great. It was unbelievable day. The Eagles beat the shit out of the Cowboys and Big Dom was just the best as you could have

Big Dom got, he got a lot of FaceTime today too. Big Dom was all over the screen after, after AJ Brown threw Tanner McKee's first touchdown pass into the stands. They, they can't really like immediately cut the big, big Dom and AJ because AJ is like, I'll give him my jersey. I'll give him my jersey. Big Dom's like, I got this. I'm going to take care of this guy. Don't worry about it. So Max, as fate would have it, my aunt was actually at the game sitting next to the guy that caught that ball.

from A.J. Bright. Yeah. And so the team security came up to him and it was like, Big Dom's going to take care of you. We need that ball back. But Big Dom says he's going to make it good. And the kid was like, yeah, sure, no problem. I trust Big Dom.

Yeah, no, I mean that we the reveal whatever the loser like that is a situation that You have you should give the ball back. I think yeah, it's exactly the chances of Tanner McKee going on to be this like Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa Tanner McKee is the truth

Tanner McKee, very good quarterback. He had a great, that was a great drive that he had today. He had two great balls in that drive. AJ Brown caught two of his touchdowns, but whatever. It seems like all the Eagles backup quarterbacks have great relationships with AJ Brown. Yeah, no, it's a great quarterback room. We're building a factory.

But Big Dom is the best. That was awesome that he, you know, hooked you guys up, you and your parents. And so I like Big Dom's one of those guys, like when I grow up, I want to be Big Dom. I know that makes no sense because I'm about to be 40, but I do want to be Big Dom when I grow up. Yeah, Max, you know how you say that you prefer it? If Jayden Daniels was not in the division, I would prefer if Big Dom wasn't in the division. Like he's, he's love that state.

That's awesome. That rocks. He's a problem in the division. Yeah, he is. He has put him on any other team. Did you Max? Did you see Jerry Jones when on his radio show after? And he said that Eagles fan went up to him and said, keep doing the job you're doing this year. And he was not happy.

I mean, the Cowboys, I should have known because I was like, who maybe the Cowboys are gonna be frisky here. The Eagles are Cooper Rush Kryptonite. He is, he's played the Eagles three times. He has 373 yards total against the Eagles in three games, full starts, two touchdowns, five interceptions. This game was a Laffer. It wasn't even like, you guys were pick sixes and Kenny Pickett got it. It still didn't matter.

There was a little bit of a hairy moment there in the first quarter. I mean, it started off with a pick six, but then, you know, we stalled. We were getting out, I think at one point, the Cowboys had like 150 yards to our like 14. So it was like, it wasn't from start to finish, but we picked it up. And Saquon, Saquon is so cool.

Yeah, he had a great game. And can he pick it actually look pretty good when he was in? I think he broke his ribs last week. And so they said he had a pain killing injection shot and then he took another shot to the ribs. So I don't know. I don't know how long he's going to be out, but you should get Jalen back next week, right? Oh, he's going to sit. Yeah, they got the two. So the question is, do you do you play sequon next week?

I would say no yards. He's 101 yards from the record. I also say no, but if I had to guess, I think, if I had to guess, I think that they, I think they will play him. And I actually, they should have kept them in. They should have kept them in longer this week. I know that doesn't make any sense because like snaps or snaps, but once you're already playing a game, I don't know. I, I, I, my guess is they play him and give him like 10 carries and see if he can break one.

Yeah. That feels like what they're going to do. Yeah. I don't want him to play at all. If he gets hurt and can't play in the playoffs. Don't see it. That's the whole conversation. That's the only thing you can say. The only reason I don't want him to do it.

The only reason I wish they'd play him next week is because it would make that clip of Stephen Chase saying not to draft him in fancy football, even funnier if he then went on to have the all time greatest season in the history of the sport of football. I also Eric Dickerson's been kind of a salty bitch about it. So like I kind of want him to play for that reason too. So yeah, it's like Mercury Morris vibes when Mercury Morris would like talk shit about any team that was you know, 12 and oh, but I kind of respect it too. Like Eric Dickerson, you don't.

You don't want your record to be broken. That's not true. When people say that, like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, when he had to give that game when they stopped the entire NBA to give a ball to LeBron James, nobody with a realistic, like a true competitor would not want their record to be broken. They want to be known as the best.

Here's the only counterpoint. And I feel like if I had a record like that, I would, I'd want it to be broken before I died. Because you do get a bounce of like everyone saying, wow, Eric Dickerson was incredible. That's an insane record. So like, if I could time it to like get my record broken like a year or two before I die so that I get all the, because like once you're dead, what does it matter? You know, it's going to get broken and you're going to be dead and no one's going to be able to say, Hey, you were awesome.

Okay, so that's a good point because if you're like Michael Strahan and you have the single season wreck for sacks, you're already famous. You're on every fucking TV show in America. You don't want that record to be broken. There's no upside for you. But if you haven't really done much since you played, you're fading off a little bit, then you get a week of free dinners.

Right. And you get to go to the game and you get to be like, Oh, young Buck, like great job. And if you're Dickerson, you get the added bonus of an extra game. And I know the carries max. You mentioned the carries. You had that ready to go. But you could always be like, I applied and play 17 games. Yeah. So you could be like, Oh, I had the 16 game record.

It is cool to get 2,000 yards though in in 16 games. Yes. Very cool. Very, very cool. Um, I, yeah, I don't know. The sake one did have a funny line after, which is more injury for the, uh, Giants when he said, uh, it was his first hat and T-shirt game and he didn't even know that was a thing. Um, that's tough for Giants fans that he was like, I had no idea that a hat and T-shirt game was a thing. Do you think, do you think the Cowboys will play train, tree lance next week?

I mean, they should. Why right? I don't know. It's okay.

I feel like he's lost his fastball. No, Eagles fans are chirping him. He's getting chirped. And then he's going on and he's amplifying that. Yeah, it's bad. I'm worried about Jerry Jones. I don't think he's capable of making his insane decisions anymore. I think that he's just, you know, kind of a normal guy that doesn't like to serve the pot too much. I don't like that. Yeah, I agree. It's a little, he's been a little too quiet about everything. What are you laughing about, Max?

I'm just thinking of it. Eagles fans are the best. There was this guy behind me at the game today. And every single play was a bullshit call by the refs. And it was a fucking rough show. I remember there was two tackles of like, say what was just running outside. And they just like took his legs out and he just goes, that's a chop block. That's a fucking chop block of just like having no idea what any of it actually means. But I shout out that guy. That guy was the best. Shout out that guy.

Oh, B-Rob, we need them to score a touchdown for the people. All right. Giants 45, Colts 33. Who's more mad at this result? The Giants. But the Colts too, like that, they were, the Colts were in the pecking order of like, you know, obviously we've talked about the Bengals a lot, but the Colts were going to be in if the Broncos lost in week 18.

I still think the Giants are more angry about it. If you're a Colts fan, yeah, your defense sucked. Your defense was so bad here. Drew Lock carved you up. But you had Joe Flacco, so you can just say, oh, we had our backup quarterback. So in terms of what this means for the future, we can't get the full picture on everything. Because if AR is in there, he's probably going to run the ball a lot more and limit the possessions a little bit. But yeah, it's bad. It's bad for both teams. Don't get me wrong. But for the Giants, this was

This was such a, such a bad win. This might be the worst win of all time. Yeah, I mean, they went from the first draft pitch to the fourth. Um, and they honestly didn't order back. Yes, exactly.

Yeah, so they it's crazy. They end up winning this game It does kind of prove that tanking in the NFL is impossible because the quotes from the Giants players after were like we're not fucking trying to lose like we're out here playing for our jobs they did Avoid becoming the first team ever to lose nine home games in a season But so

I actually think it could be worse for the cults if they don't fire Chris Ballard. That would be my statement. Chris Ballard, do you know this? This is a fun stat about Chris Ballard. So he took over the job in 2017. Since 2017,

There have been, I think it's seven, so seven years, seven winners of the AFC South, the Jaguars have won it twice, the Titans have won it twice, the Texans have won it three times, the Indianapolis Colts have won it zero times. It is the most combustible division that you can win year to year and Chris Ballard's teams have not won it a single time. And this is another year where remember the 2021 year where they lost the Jags, a terrible Jags team at the end of the season,

Yep. They had it last year where they had a win and get in game. It seems just fall apart. Their defenses fall apart. The Giants were averaging 14 points a game and they had 45.

I know there was some turnovers from the 45 points. Like, it was great. Malik, Malik neighbors couldn't be stopped. The running game was good. Drew Locke is a Bronco for life. We already knew that, but he's still even more of a Bronco for life for beating the Colts. Yeah. It's bad. It's, it's a very bad situation for the Colts, but I feel like this was in a, so if they, if they had won this game and then they lost next week, didn't get in, I would think that Chris Ballard had a higher likelihood of sticking around. Right? Yeah. Yeah.

If this gets rid of Chris Ballard, this is an okay loss for the Colts because you if you keep Chris Ballard and you they already said the anti-rich is going to be their quarterback starting quarterback start next year. So I'd already like to make a prediction if Chris Ballard sticks around, if they don't change anything for the Colts, I'd like to make a prediction that the Colts will finish eight or nine or nine and eight missed the playoffs. Yep.

That's where they're going to be. Yeah. This is one of those shootouts where I thought that the Colts should have gone for two when they were they scored a touchdown. I think they were down. What were they down?

I think to make it down nine instead of down 10, like your defense, your defense wasn't stopping anybody. And sometimes you got to do weird shit like that. And we saw a MATLAB floor try to do something like that later on in the day. But yeah, bad, bad game for the Colts, bad game for the Giants fans. I know they were very active. They were very vocal about like they were cheering on their team. They wanted to win. But there's probably like a hangover that you had when you're driving out of the stadium. And you're like, that was fun.

But fuck yeah, I really I really it's like I really should have wrapped it up hit I guess the only thing it's I think I think the only thing you could say is maybe and this is what I would do if our Giants fan be like

know there's no it's not like the best quarterback class and we would have to talk ourselves into it and maybe you get the decision made for you and also the the Patriots are first pick right now they already have a quarterback so you could potentially trade which sucks but yeah it's a bad law it's a bad win I mean it's a bad win you can't win that game before the Giants I don't know like you just can't win that game

There's somewhere there is somebody's dad who's a Giants fan that is like, it's okay. It's all right that we lost that. Cam Ward, he sat out the second half of the game. We don't want it. That's not a giant. It's not New York. Do you think Eli Manning would ever do that? That's not the kind of guy we want. Yeah, that's true. I just can't.

I just want to keep speaking up for Colts fans. I know Dan Dockett's our friend Dan Dockett is doing it because he's been saying the truth about Chris Ballard for a long time. Chris Ballard's just like it's insane that he doesn't get more heat than I mean that's stat about every other team winning the AFC South twice in his time and him never winning one and not only that but this was the first year in his

tenure that they had the same starting quarterback from one year to the next. Anthony Richardson technically was starting quarterback last year, starting quarterback this year. That's all he's been doing. He's just changing quarterbacks. He's gone through a million and I know Andrew Luck retired and that was bad, but like it's, I feel bad for Colts fans because it feels like this guy's never going to get fired and you just have like soft teams that end up falling apart in the end, especially defensively at the end of the season.

Yeah, for the last like, how long has it been 15 years with Grigson, even before this? The Colts always have a GM that kind of just, he just hangs out with Jim Ursay and gets his trust and then doesn't get any results until somebody that Ursay trusts tells him like, hey, this guy's just taking your money.

Yeah, it's, it's crazy because you can't, like the Colts had Peyton Manning. So they can't, you know, like if you're a Colts fan, you've had good moments, but, and then you had Andrew Luck and that obviously, you know, they couldn't protect him and he retired early, but I do feel bad for Colts fans because they are the ultimate tease team where they are always

A little bit competitive and they actually like weirdly do the right thing of like that when they loot when they have a bad season They really do bottom out, you know, they had the the season to get Andrew Luck they they had a four and twelve season and got Anthony Richardson like They do it correct, but they just they there's such a t their eight nine nine and eight every single year and they fall apart like this and it would drive me nuts and Chris Ballard I don't know how you have a job as a national sports podcast fire Chris Ballard

Yeah, Bill Pollan made one good decision. And that was he drafted Peyton Manning instead of Ryan Leaf. And then he didn't have to make another decision about a quarterback for a very long time. Yeah. And then, yeah, every other person that's taken over that like right hand man to Jim Ursay has just like been like, Jim, I got this. Don't worry about the outside. I'm going to, I'm going to handle all this. You just go buy another guitar. I'll make everything okay.

Yeah. Yeah. Exactly right. All right. Box Panthers, Bucks 48, Panthers 14. Bucks are back. That was a big statement when just off of a bad game against the Cowboys. I know the Panthers defense like the Panthers were missing everyone. They you know, Chubo was out. JC Horn was out. Josie Jewell was out. Like they got absolutely gashed.

The big story of this, I had two big stories from this game. Actually three, Brashong's still good. Quarterback of the future for the Panthers. Number two is Mike Evans now is 85 yards away from getting a thousand yards. So I'm hoping for that because we're big Mike Evans podcast. And number three, the duck that caused the block punt. That was awesome. Get that duck into the Bucks Hall of Fame. So I don't know how you can find that duck, but you need to get that duck. Maybe eat it. Maybe eat it before the playoffs.

I've seen better ducks, but PFT for people who are watching this game. I don't blame you. There was a duck on the field. They showed the duck. They were like zooming in on the duck.

Literally the second after they were zooming in on the duck, they had to go away from the duck because the bucks blocked a punt and got a touchdown out of it. The duck caused that. And then the whole crowd started chanting ducky, ducky, because they were chanting Bucky earlier, because Bucky Irving had an incredible game. Get that duck. If you want to win a Super Bowl, don't eat the duck. Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, get the duck, put it in a mascot, you know, bin. I don't even know cage. Have it on the sideline.

That duck is vibes that could win you a Super Bowl. Okay, listen, I got no problem with the duck. I just wish that the duck had been in the shot, like the live shot when the clock was blocked. That would have really sealed the deal for. I think it's a very good duck. I think as far as ducks go, it's an elite duck. But if you're going to talk like Hall of Fame, let's turn this into a rally squirrel. I would like the duck to have a better sense of camera presence.

Yeah. And to know when he's on TV. But I agree with you. It was the magic of television where great job to the guys in the truck. The guys in the truck put the camera on the duck. They were the ones that spotlighted the duck for us. The duck just kind of, he didn't even know he was on TV. And he flew away when the lights got bright. Yeah. So I'll take that. I agree with you there. Like the duck, it would have been cool if the duck had like run the punt back with the team.

They should bring that duck all around Tampa. Like I want to see that duck at hockey games. I want to give the duck a key to the city. If you turn the duck, because if you give the duck a chance to be great on TV and give him another shot, I think the duck does have something special, but I need to see more film of the duck before I can confirm as being like a duck of destiny. Yeah.

Baker's going to end up with, uh, because they have the bucks to have to play next week. Uh, Baker's going to end up with 40 touchdowns, 40 plus touchdowns and 4,500 yards. What a, what a season. So are the bucks a team that you would not want to play? I would say of the boxer or team, I do not want to play. I, so would you rather play the Rams or the bucks? I'd rather play the Rams. I think.

I don't know. The box defense is not great. Although they have been injured. I know Antoine Winfield was out in this game and he's very important. But Todd Bowles can dial it up. He can heat up a quarterback. I think the Rams and the Bucks are just complete like polar opposites right now where the Rams defense is very good.

And the Bucks defense isn't. The Bucks offense is clicking. The Rams defense looks old and slow. Yeah. The Bucks like Bucky Irving is awesome. 190 yards from scrimmage today. Jalen McMillan is a real deal wide receiver. Number two option. Mike Evans looks fine. Like, yeah, I would probably not want to play the Bucks just because there's just more variance in like a shootout and stuff, you know? I wouldn't want to play a pissed off Baker. Yeah.

Yeah, that's facts. And then yeah, the Panthers were really injured. And I do think Bryce Young, he made an insane, awesome throw to Adam. The Panthers need to keep Adam feeling that they do need to do because that's clearly a connection that works for Bryce Young. And like, that was a smart signing that is now showing that it was smart. Like you need a guy like that for a young quarterback and Adam feeling still got some gas in the tank.

Adam Thelen's got to be so happy that things just like magically turned around. He was in hell. When we talked to him. Yeah. I felt like Adam Thelen was like very, very close to having a hamstring injury that lingered on for like 10 weeks. Yeah. But it wouldn't blame him the way that things were going. But yeah, it's the minor car accident with Andy Dalton turned around the entire vibe. Yeah. It sucks because like no one's happy that Andy Dalton got into a car accident, but it ended up making entire city happy.

Yeah. And the Panthers arrow pointing up, which again, if you had asked us this in October, like there's no chance that you'd be enthused about the Panthers season going into next year. I think legitimately you can be, especially in the NFC South where that's a division where teams can feel like they can, you know, win it out of nowhere. So I just want the bucks and the playoffs. I would like to see the bucks and the playoffs. I want to see Baker in the playoffs. He's, it's like,

It like no offense to Michael Pennics in the Falcons, but like I want to I have personal preferences I want to see Baker over to the Falcons I want to see Joe burrow over Imagine if the dolphins make it like if the Broncos lose and the dolphins get in no offense to the dolphins fans But like I want to see the Bengals. I'm sorry. I want to see the Bengals. I don't want to see a Baker Sam Darnell match up at some point the playoffs. Yes, okay

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Yoff's baby. I mean, what a, what a great season. This has been unreal. Like Yoff's were way outside my expectations. Now as Hank says, let's go in the whole damn thing. Right, Hank? Yeah.

Yeah, fuck it. Yeah, but Daniels did throw that interception. I wanted to talk about that interception for a little bit. It was a bad pick. I shouldn't have thrown that. Went right to the linebacker. They confused him. You know, these are rookie. Sometimes mistakes will happen, but you can't make excuses. A simple zone blitz. You should know better as a rookie than to make a pass like that. Oh, yeah. Also, he had infinity rushing yards and we are now 11. That's a, you know what? This is a huge, this is our 11th win, right?

This is a very important moment for me, Big Cat, because the insult graphic that people like to put up your memes, et cetera, is in the off season of the last time each team has won 11 games.

And it's every other team since like 2009. And then Washington is in 1991. There you go. So I was dead. We fucking killed him today. And we did it in 16 games. So you can't even do that excuse to it. I don't remember ever winning 11 games. I don't. I remember the Super Bowl in 1991.

But I don't remember winning 11 games. I don't know what I'm supposed to feel like. Shout out to Zach Hertz, who caught, I think, two balls with his dick, which has got to be a record. Pennics look good. I want to give credit to Michael Pennics, though.

Yeah, his, his drive to tie the game was awesome, but then Jaden Daniels drive in overtime was incredible. And you're in the playoffs. Like that was, uh, that was an incredible drive. That was everything that, you know, this whole year has been, he's been insane. And now you're in the playoffs, Hank lost a bet. Uh, but he now is all an unsuper bowl. It also changed.

essentially all of next Sunday because the Rams have clinched the NFC West officially. Uh, the Bucks are winning get in the, uh, and then like you guys are set. So there was, I don't know, maybe like three or four games that were maybe going to be more meaningful. We're not, we're not, you're in the playoffs because we just jumped the Packers. So now we're the 16. Oh, so we would play against the Rams. That's why big cat I need you to.

I need you to beat that. We need to try. Can you try for a big cat? Just one laugh. I know you're already saying I'm worried. I'm not worried about the Rams. They're not that good. You're fine. You could beat the Rams. No, I'm saying in order. So there's a possibility that if the Packers, if they beat the Bears next week, then they're 12 and five. That means that we would have to beat the Cowboys to get the six seed. Yeah. Yes. You're putting what's more likely to happen.

The Washington commanders being Cooper rushing the Cowboys or the Chicago Bears meeting the Green Bay Packers don't put that on me. Well, you don't need that I would like you to chip in To I can't handle that there's nothing I can do they're not gonna do there's no chipping in they're not doing anything They're not even gonna show up to the game you guys are gonna beat the Cowboys you're gonna play the Rams you're gonna beat the Rams and Then you're gonna play

The Eagles? I don't know. What's wrong, Max? Max put his hand up. I thought I was playing the commanders in the first round. No, well, not anymore, buddy. Oh, no, Max.

Yeah. Now you're going to be playing. So wait, who, who would match the Packers? The Packers right now. Oh, no. Oh, no. But it all comes down to what happens next week and because of the Packers win and we lose. Then it's back to a man, the game means, but it just went. Yeah, but just went. No, but just lose because we want commanders, Eagles for the show. I want to. Yeah. We want commanders, Eagles for the show. Hank, come on.

So maybe, you know what, maybe the Bears can't even say with straight face. I don't beat the Packers, dude. If the Bears beat the Packers, then we don't get Commander's Eagles first round.

Oh, oh, yeah, they would be. Okay. So yeah, so you don't, we need commander's Eagles. The show needs commander's Eagles. The show should be rooting for commander's Eagles. So that means that the show is worried best case scenario for the show and for you specifically would be commanders Rams first round commanders win. That's true. Packers first round Eagles. Eagles win. And you get all the, all the bad juju out of the way. And then we get commander's Eagles.

Yes. Okay. I can live with that. I can deal with that. Max is not true. Max is like heartbroken. It would be commander. It would be commanders.

Yeah, wouldn't even know wouldn't be commander's Vikings those are two wild cars unless the Vikings get the one seat unless no Vikings no Right now the Vikings have the one seed. That's why I said that right because the lines haven't played yet correct correct No commanders the commanders and Eagles are not gonna play in the playoffs unless they play in the NFC Championship game Yeah, yeah, okay. All right. Yeah We need commander's Eagles. Yeah, we do

All right, so the show, what's that timing for the matters to lose next weekend? But I will not be rooting for that. Max is so confused, right? I mean, I thought you wanted the commanders, right? Yeah, dude. No, he does. The Packers are a million times better than the commanders. Yeah, keep it up. Yeah, I love this, Max. Actually, Max, that's not true because the commanders are the six seed right now. How could they be a million times better than the Packers or the seven seed?

Good point. Yeah. Is this playoff? I don't know why in my head. I was just because Max like literally was has spent the last month being like, oh, I'm so stressed out like the commanders like be bad for like my life and everything if they but now it's setting in that he might have to play the Packers and he is terrified of the Packers. Terrified. It was because I'm going to have you on my side and you don't

I don't like you on my side in the playoffs. But I'm going to be on, if this sets up, I'm going to be on both of your sides big time. If the commanders play the Rams, I'm going to be fucking burgundy and gold. And then the Eagles play the Packers. We're going to be doing Kelly green shit.

Yeah, that's bad for both of you, actually, now that I'm playing this on my head. You might go over to that weekend. So they just announced the schedule for next week. The Tangle web we weave. The Browns Ravens for the early afternoon game and then the Bengals Steelers night game on Saturday. On Saturday? OK. That's good. So the Bengals and the Steelers are playing before the other teams that would have an impact on the Bengals season. Got it. I like that. I like that.

The other big note is it looks like, yeah, Bears Packers will be playing at the same time as commanders Cowboys. Yeah, they always try to link those up. And then they, and then Sunday night football, I would assume would be Vikings lions for the ones he's like, and that kicks ass. Yeah, that does kick ass. Cause that's a massive game. Congrats PFT. That's awesome. And that was, that was of like insane drive by Jaden Daniels at the end of the game.

It was, yeah, his legs were great today. He took some bad shots that, that first half play where he got bent over, like his knee looked like it popped and I ran out of the room, screamed, oh fuck, ran back in and somehow when I came back in the room, he was on his feet and like smiling. What the fuck? Again, he leaves the league and smiles, but it's, that was a true, my life flash before my eyes moment. And if, if Dan Snyder was still the owner of the team,

They'd be picking pieces of his PCL out of the Sean Taylor statues face mask. Yeah. Like his knee would break if somehow, somehow every bad thing has become a good thing for the vibes. And I just don't, I don't want to touch anything or do anything. But yeah, it's, I mean, meaningful playoff football. This is pretty cool. It's pretty cool. So hopefully I get max.

So yeah, here's a recap. 12 of the 14 playoff spots are set. And the AFC Chiefs, Bills, Texans, Ravens, Steelers, and Chargers. And the NFC Lions, Vikings, Packers, Eagles, Commanders, and Rams. The NFC South Champion is still to be decided. Bucks and Falcons, Bucks win. They're in. Bucks lose and Falcons win. Falcons are in. And then the Broncos, Dolphins, and Bengals will get the last AFC wild card spot, which

It again, no offense to the dolphins. It has to be Broncos or Bengals. I can't like that would be such a bummer if the Broncos lost and the dolphins won and the dolphins got in because I feel like that would surprise a lot of people too. Cause you know, it's been all about the Bengals. Yeah. And then that would be a shit pumping. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, I,

I think the yeah I mean if if the Bengals get in that's just a super awesome wild card weekend of competitive games because you got like you have two seven seeds that could beat the two seeds and the Bengals versus the Bills and the Packers versus the Eagles. Yeah.

He's so confused. He's looking at the numbers. He's crunching the day that he can't figure it out. The number on the left is the wins, and the number on the right is the losses of each team. And right now, it looks like if you look at the standings, the commanders have 11 on the left, and then they only have five on the right. In max, it's pretty simple. So they have the same record, but the commanders are eight and three in the conference, and the Packers are six and five, and that's the tiebreaker.

two teams in not in the same division, the tiebreaker is conference. Got it. You know what we got? So like if, uh, man, if the, if the Eagles had beaten the commanders, that would have helped a lot too, huh? Would have helped a lot. Would have helped a lot. Yeah. But man, but the Packers are better than the commanders. Well, actually, technically they're not, don't know. PFT do not concede that point. You're the six seed, the Packers are the seven seed.

The commanders are better than the Packers. We're currently seated higher right now. It's not even division winning. It's not like an 8 and 8 NFC South team is higher. You guys are both wildcard teams and you are better than them.

You know what, though? I want to agree with Max, though. I want to say that the Packers are a better team. I want to encourage the hate. I want to encourage the nobody believes in us. I feel like that's a good thing to have on your side going to the playoffs. This just got me so juiced up for playoff football. I mean, Packers Eagles first round. Holy shim. What a game.

It's like yeah, like it's like actually like the packets of like shit yesterday that one Imagine that Max one of those teams they started their season with them and then they ended their season with them Wow Yeah, yeah

All right, let's be good teams in the playoffs. Got to be good teams in the playoffs, but you thought you were going to get to play the commanders first. Yeah, you got Tanner McKee. All right, congrats to PFT commanders in the playoffs. All right, let's get back to the games. Bill's 40 jets 14.

Um, where do you want to start memes? Do you want to start with the Jets coming out? And Rogers is a bitch complaining to Kenny Aboa that he didn't come to the ball when he was wide open for a walk in touchdown was, it was just like the epitome of the Jets season.

Yeah, I was going to say the gangsters paradise. That was quite something. Did you see the alternate angle? No, what was the alter angle? I want to see every angle of it. Josh Allen just staring at him laughing. What about what about Garrett Wilson's quote? Do you see Garrett Wilson's quote? He said, uh, I always feel like we go out there. The vibe feels right. Uh, we're ready to play. Then we get our asses kicked. Yeah, I saw that.

I mean soft do you want to talk about sauce gardener on Instagram telling t Higgins not to come to the New York Jets? And then on then after the game in his post-game interview He was like yeah, it's kind of frustrating because some guys seem like they're checked out Yeah, but then he he did a fact check he said we already have Kay and Garrett so we don't need t Higgins But meanwhile if Aaron Rodgers isn't on the team

then you don't have to add them. So you would need someone like the Higgins to be the end. And if Aaron Rodgers is on the team, you don't have Garrett Wilson. We, we might not have Garrett Wilson. They're what was he could request for a trade. Good. And he also just went for his third straight year, a thousand yards. He's awesome. You want to keep Garrett Wilson more than Devonta Adams.

Yeah, if, if it's Garrett Wilson or the other two, you let the other two walk and you like Garrett Wilson pick the bridge quarterback or whoever else. Oh shit. So now he's the GM. You just fired the brick. You just fired the brick. Brick's gone. We need to think outside the Xbox.

What do you think about there's a big free agent coach, maybe the soft season, has experience working with Aaron Rodgers and making him play it to the best of his abilities, Mike McCarthy. Oh, I take Mike McCarthy in a second. They won. I mean, he went. What do you go? 12 and five up until this year for the past four seasons? Yes. We take McCarthy with no Aaron Rodgers. Yes.

That's good. That's good. We're making progress. My entire, my entire day during the game was looking up coaches and trying to figure out which quarterbacks are available. Yeah. Do you know what you just did? You just, you did a very powerful thing, which is you mentally moved on from having the entire purpose for your next head coach be to make Aaron Rodgers happy, which is good. Yeah. No, he's got to get in line. Uh, no more ayahuasca. If he's going to be here, you have to lock in.

I've never seen someone who's so good at football. Just not want to play football. He's like, I'll take a break. I'll do this. I'll go to Tahoe. Just lock in. You only have certain amount of football. Tahoe rocks. All right. Tahoe's the outlier. Tahoe rocks, Tahoe's in, but lock in the rest of the other weeks. You only have a certain amount of football games in your career. Just lock in for that certain amount of time and then go fuck off to Egypt after.

Okay, that's fair. It is he allowed to lock in in the off season in some random hill in Oregon. How much time like one day locked in 24 hours. Yeah, that's fine, but he's just got to lock in.

Okay. All right. So we had the worst QBR since like 2001 of any quarterback today. Yes. All that. Yeah. Which I mean, I feel like those stats are like they're created to get people talking about things. So obviously you didn't have a good game. He played very poorly. No, he's not like I don't think Aaron Rodgers is the worst quarterback in the NFL. Yeah. Not five and everything. No. Well, today's top one, most sacks in NFL history. That's true. And he also benched himself.

Yeah, it should have been bench a while before that. I don't think coach Olberich's mic is plugged in. They just your final hack it and just unplug his memes. You're in the same spot as me that like as much as it hurts to say because I wanted to be reflose fired. You wanted solid fired. I think we probably both would have won more games if they didn't fire the coach. Oh, 100% not, not like a ton more, but like maybe two more.

which is crazy to say, but it's probably the truth, because it's somehow got worse after, like usually you get a little bounce. We got worse after firing the coach. Significantly worse. And the penalties today were so bad. I just want a coach who comes in and just teaches how not to fall start for. I'm blanking.

a legal shift. Yeah. No, it was brutal. Breeze Hall would get a 20 yard run and then it'd be called back for a hold. It was just nonstop. It was an annoying Sunday to describe it. Yeah. Why do they do the the boombox right next to Aaron Rodgers going out onto the field? I feel like that should be some of that's more of like a defensive thing. Get the boys hyped. Instead, you have it like right next to Aaron Rodgers ear. Also, Gary Wilson is nowhere to be found.

Yeah, I also think PFT. It's also a not a four and 11 team thing. Yeah, probably. But the boys have fun. Yeah, I feel like for an 11 team. You got to do whatever you got to do to get ready mentally ready for a football game. I get it. That's my. You get to like if you win. Yeah, I didn't matter. I mean, it was 40 to nothing in this game. By the way, shout out Mitch one for one 69 yards touchdown.

No big deal. Also, Bill's luck in the second seed. They don't have to play anyone in week 18 and get a little mini buy. Also, Josh Allen just tied the record for most rushing touchdowns for the Bills, 65, Thurmond Thomas. So he should, I hope he wins MVP. I'm personal, my personal choice is him.

But I also feel like this MVP discussion is just going to get so ugly. And he's been insane this year. So in their defense, Bill's defense looked good. I don't know if that's much of the Jets offense looked bad, but the Bill's defense did look better than they've looked the last couple of weeks. Yeah. Do you think that there's a chance that the quarterbacks split the quarterback vote for MVP and then the block of guys who are solid, sake one guys, they pull it out? Maybe.

Anyway, I PFT as well has have Lamar, but I feel like Josh Allen locked it up today. Like I feel like if they won like kind of an ugly like, you know, 14 to three stinker, but he played well, had the stats. Like I feel like he pretty much locked it up today. But, but we've we've we before and Hank was had flight issues. We made the case for Joe Burrow earlier in the in the show.

Because Joe Burroughs doing stuff that literally every time a quarterback's done it, they've won MVP. And he also, if you just said the schedule, Joe Burrough does get a standalone game on Saturday night. If he goes off against the Steelers, and it's like the Bengals did everything they could, like,

It would be crazy because you could possibly have an MVP that's not even in the playoffs, which doesn't happen anymore. Yes, that never happened. It's happened. Who there was it? I got to look it up now, but it's become the MVP kind of sucks now because it's just the quarterback of the one or the two seat. That's just what it is.

But yeah, I mean, it would be having a standalone game week 18 if you're Joe Burrow and you have like an entire broadcast where they're talking about you. And if you go off, that definitely could help him.

Yeah, and I think having more games like he had against the Broncos where everything else around him fails and he's the only one that like steps up and, you know, if he has to win the game three times in a row again, like if, if Zach Taylor accidentally ices his own kicker as he's kicking, the field goal goes in. They give him the timeout. The second kick misses. If like more shit like that happens that he has to come back from and cover up, then that's good for him too.

Yeah, OK, I'm looking it up right now. 97 Lions went 9 and 7 and co MVP was Barry Sanders. I'm trying to see if there's any other ones. So yeah, that's probably I mean, it doesn't happen anymore. That just doesn't happen. It's you have to you have to win like 12, 13 games to win MVP.

So Joe Rose probably not going to win it. Josh, I hope wins it. Lamar probably will end up winning it because it's again, we talked about this. It's narratives and Lamar played a couple of standalone games at the end of the season. And that's, that's how it gets decided. Um, okay. Anything else memes? I mean, did you see the decision? What did you see Aaron Rodgers business decision on the fumble? Yeah. Yeah. He didn't, he didn't really die for it. I wouldn't if I were him. Yeah. He's gone.

Yeah, the memes you and I are just the same where it's just like get get this hell season over with like wake me up when we hire a new coach and then wake me up again at the draft.

Yeah, I saw a bunch of Jets fans getting mad at people for saying, uh, just I want the season to be over, which I don't get. Cause as soon as the, yeah, as soon as the season's over, you get all the new toys, right? And then you have, and then you have direction. I just didn't understand that. I think people, no, that's, that makes no sense. I've wanted the season to be over for a month, no month and a half. Since Thanksgiving, I've been like, get me out of this season. You probably been longer than that.

Yeah, and I'm just mad that our tankathon. We're now at seven. I don't understand how it works. It's there's a lot of bad teams. You know, you know what's bullshit. You know what's bullshit about the tankathon and how they decide it. If you play a harder schedule, you should get.

I guess that doesn't make sense because if you play a worse schedule and you have a bad record, that means you really are worse. All right, I get it. I understand it. Don't mind, make sense. Strike that from the record. But I got mad about that too, memes. We're the same person. We should just sit down and have a long talk when we get back. Okay. So we congratulate Hank, though? What did Hank do? Number one, well, I don't know if they're going to hold on to it. I have a prediction.

I think the Cleveland Browns are going to get the number one pick. Okay. So, I think the brave, I think the brown, if they start DTR, I do not think you can win a football game with DTR.

Uh, the bills are going to play the Patriots. The bills are going to, like the bills have every, why wouldn't they try to lose that game? Like they don't want the, the Patriots have the number one pick. Uh, well, MVP that we know is Mitch Trabisky, one for one today with a touchdown, 69 yards. I understand. But do you don't, if you're in a division, you don't want to give them the number one pick and you have the coach trying to keep his job.

So he's going to try to win that game with a rookie quarterback. And then the other one is the Titans playing the Texans. Texans aren't going to play anyone. Also a rookie coach trying to keep, you know, his job, which I don't think he should get fired, but probably trying to keep his job. I think the Browns could get the one. I think it could. I think you could find a way to sneak in there.

I mean, Hank, haven't, I don't think it's crazy at all. Yeah. I mean, Hank, you don't, you don't necessarily need the one seed because you've got a quarterback. So if you got the one seed, you would just sell it off. Yeah. But I take Travis Hunter. No, no, I think you would trade back. Yeah. Maybe. Hey, you have a bidding. It depends on, depends on how much, I don't know if this quarterback class would be

Like people might not be trying to trade multiple one, you know, number one picks to get to trade up in this. But you can trade back at least a few spots and get more picks. I'm not, again, like I, we learned last year I don't even know anything about the draft, but I, you know, today I was thinking about it. It's like, there's no world where even if we have the one pick, we're not drafting first.

Yeah, it just depends on what other teams are behind you and what other teams are willing to do. Because if you're not totally sold on Shador Sanders or Cam Ward, you're not going to trade a future first round pick to move up.

Yeah, but I feel like when it comes down to it, like people with teams get sold on QBs. Yeah, you're probably right. You're probably sold off on QBs no matter how good or not good they are. You definitely rather end up with the number one pick than not because at least you have all the options. Then you can sell it for a shitload of money. You'll probably end up trading it to the Raiders.

Like Tom Brady, we'll get on the phone with Robert Kraft and be like, Tommy, Tommy, I want to make a deal. I'll give you a discount, Tommy. Yeah. Also, Shador Sanders tweeted, after the Patriots lost before the Giants game. Thank you, God.

So maybe he's happy about the Patriots because that means he'll go to the Raiders with Tommy. I mean, Nick Wright was ridiculous, but also kind of hilarious. Yeah. Very funny. He'd Nick Wright tweeted that, uh, would it be so crazy if the Patriots traded Drake may draft and Shador Sanders because they traded Drake, maybe they got another pick. So they traded Drake, maybe to like the Titans. They get the one and two pick. They draft Shador Sanders. They draft Travis Hunter and then Dion's the new head coach.

That would be crazy. I mean, I, I like, I like taking that shot by Nick, right? Like that was, that was a fun shot. It makes no, it would never happen, but it's a fun fucking like, yeah. And I feel like Dion has made that happen the whole way. So why not? Why not? Yeah. I mean, why not? Uh, by the way, I think it's more likely that, that Dion takes the Raiders job and then they trade with New England, get the first pick and get your door. Yeah. Um,

Well, let's talk about the Raiders. Raiders 25, Saints 10. The Raiders might have a quarterback.

Yeah, AOC is pretty good. Scott Turner's work in Magic. The Raiders, they got there at like one in the morning. There was all this flight issue. I said that it might be a Darren Rizzi Cry game. They did an insane trick play in the first half to go up seven to six. And then the Saints were like, oh yeah, I forgot we suck. And we suck dick and we're going to just suck for the entire second half because Spencer Rattler played like a pretty good first half. And then it was just like, yeah, they just can't do anything.

Yeah, there's been a lot of travel issues getting into New Orleans recently and then knows about it. It was, it was very surprising, actually, how good the Raiders looked offensively at times, at times, I say. Yeah. Brock Bowers getting the rookie record for tight ends beating Mike Dica, which is apparently opened a lot of people's eyes to the fact that Mike Dica was a fucking baller. Yeah. Everybody like Mike Dica coach smokes cigars inside Mike Dica farts.

Yeah, Mike, Mike, Dick, uh, having the craziest part about that. And it actually goes back to our previous discussion where like Mike Dicke might actually be happy this was broken because everyone would be like, Holy shit, Dick, uh, like to have a record, an NFL record stand since 1961 is insane in a 14 game season. He just got it broken. Like that's a crazy record from 1961 is a long ass time ago. And Dicke had that rookie, uh, tight end record.

The Brock Bowers broke. Also, shout out to Mirabdulla. He's been in the league for like a decade. And I just like, I remember watching him at Nebraska and being like, I like Mirabdulla is like really good running back. He had his career high rushing today, 10 years in the league. Pretty cool. I think we can say that AOC has at the very least earned himself like a high tier backup spot somewhere.

Yeah, like the dolphins should should should pay AOC like $6 million a year. Yeah, with the understand that you'll probably start six to seven games. 10 to 12 games. Yeah, the Colts. They should sign them. Yeah, the Colts. Yeah. Memes. What do you think about AOC on the Jets? Is it town big enough for two AOCs? Nope. Nope. Okay. Last early game, Jags 20 Titans 13.

God bless anyone who went to this game. I'll say something nice about this game. I actually enjoyed watching it a little bit because it was a throwback game in the fact that when either quarterback tried to scramble, it was the funniest thing to watch ever. And it reminded me of 90s NFL where the quarterbacks could not move whatsoever. And Matt Jones and Mason Rudolph, every time they tucked it and ran,

It was like watching the game in slow motion. And I got a little, I got a little chuckle out of that. Yeah, it was kind of nice. I, I liked this game because it ended so fast. Yeah. I think it was the first, the early slate. And it was, it beat the other games with like eight minutes left in the fourth quarter. So good job. Speeders through this one. Also Hank, we should, we should ask Hank for his comments on Jimmy Carter because we talked about President Carter a little bit. He passed away. I think this game killed him, but instead of like really doing a recap on it, I'd, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the man.

Not a great president. Thank you, Francesca. OK, also two other notes from this game. Brian Thomas is awesome. He's only the fourth receiver, fourth rookie receiver ever to go 1,100 yards, 10 TDs. The other three, Odell Beckham, Jamar Chase, and Randy Moss. So pretty good company that he's going to be a pretty damn good pro. And the Titans made history in this game.

They are the first team in NFL history to not cover the spread in 14 games in a regular season. Wow. They are two and 14 against the spread. That is insane. Good job. They make that spread like you should be able to cover half the spreads. Who did they play in the last week? They play the Texans. So they should, they could win that game. This is a game where they might fuck around and win.

Yeah, I think they will. That's my Brown's theory of the Browns somehow getting the number one pick. Yeah. Also, Big Cat, I don't know if you've been able to keep an eye on Max for the last like 15 minutes, but he's still trying to figure out these numbers. Torture chamber. He can't figure it out. It's been 15 minutes of him staring at a screen trying to make numbers change. Max, what do you find out? No, I'm just looking. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. You got your Cowboys fan in week 18.

It's literally, I think I would rather play any other wild card team, except for the loser of Vikings, Vikings line. So you'd rather play one other wild card team. There's only three wild cards.

No, I'm including first round wild card weekend teams in the NFC. OK, we can only play the wild card teams because you won the division. So the only choices you have are hackers, commanders, and Vikings and Lions. And you said you would rather play any other team. I would I would say I would also rather play either Falcons or Bucks, and I would also rather play the Rams.

Why do I have to play the Packers? But the Falcons and the Bucks aren't wildcard teams. They won the South. I get it. I don't think you get it. I don't think you get it. I get that you'd rather play a division winner, whether that's the Falcons with the Bucks over the Green Bay Packers, who is a wildcard. I get that. But that's how the seating works. You win your division and you're not a wildcard. If you don't win your division, then you become a wildcard team.

I'd also rather play the Texans, I'd rather play the Steelers, I'd rather play the Chargers. Oh, Max, this is so sad. Come on, I'll get you pumped up. We beat the Packers. We already did beat the Packers. We'll beat him again. Yeah.

All right. Uh, real quick, wrapping up before we talk about Packers, Vikings dolphins, 20 Browns, three, I like, I said this on Friday, but if they keep making DTR play NFL games, just keep betting against them. I don't know. It's, it's just, it's just an ATM. He's not an NFL quarterback. What do you think practices like? Do you think that the team is so bummed out going into Sunday because they've had to practice with them for a week and they just know that we have no shot?

Yeah, I think so. It's great. Seems like a nice guy. I loved Washington at UCLA. Awesome college quarterback, not an NFL quarterback. It's mean. At this point, it's mean what the Browns are doing to him. Yeah. Yeah, it is. And then Snoop Huntley was pretty good. He actually was really good. He was okay. He, uh, he hit Tyreek. Tyreek still alive.

Yeah, this was such a classic like shitty weather like Cleveland game where the Browns defense hung around as long as they could. And then it's like, yeah, we don't we don't have any way of winning this game. I think they got stopped a 10 point game. They got stopped on like the 10 yard line. It was just so sad, so sad to watch. Miles Garrett played well. That's about it. That's it. That's it. Okay.

Viking's 27, Packer's 25, hold on, I'm tweeting out right now, we're currently taping PMT and Max just realized the Eagles have to play the Packers and it's broken his brain. Is that fair to say, Max? Max is going, he's trying to find a brain repair. It's broken his brain. This is the most defeatist attitude I've ever seen in someone.

You Max, they have to come to the link. I had to pee. They have to come to the link. No, I know. I feel good. I feel good. I just had to go pee. I feel good. Here's what I'll say to you. Viking's 27 Packers 25.

First of all, the Vikings are awesome. Sam Darnold was incredible today. His one mistake, that interception, next drive went five for five. The end of the game when they need a first down to end the game. And Kevin O'Connell is trusting Sam Darnold to throw the ball. That says everything about it. It's not Sam Darnold, like, Jets Sam Darnold. I know that this is old news, but that was the final piece where it's like, no, no, they're trusting him in big time situations to win this game.

And even with Cam Acres, who I forgot he was still around, had like too huge. Last catch he made was insane. And then he scored that touchdown. The Vikings are really, really good. And I'm excited to watch them play the Lions week 18 for the one seed. The one thing.

that you have to be scared about if you're a Vikings fan is the thing you've been scared about your whole life. Because the kicker, I've never seen someone not look like they're up for the big moment more than that guy. He's a bar stool intern, kicking in an NFL game. Yeah, he's got the SEC swoop haircut. Looks nervous. He's a little too pale. It's crazy. Did you guys, Hank, do you see this kid? All right, I'm going to send you a picture. I want your reaction.

It's like it's torturous for Vikings fans because I really do think their team is good enough to go to the Super Bowl and then they have this guy Will Reichard who kicked for Alabama, and he's like a decent kicker He missed a couple kicks today, but it's just his face His face makes me think that he is going to be the guy who makes a pick for Bama though. That's a good at least like he's been through it All right. Yeah, look at that you guys asked you by Nick Saban if you I Mean Hank

Dakai's lining up for a big time kick. I mean, he's a kicker. It's like it's a kickers still. They showed him on the sideline. He was wearing the metal wedding ring, which like I don't even like I don't think you're supposed to do in case you like your finger breaks or something. But he's like, I'm never going to get into any physical contact. Listen, I hope that I'm wrong because I did like that would be just so put like Vikings fans have an insanely good team. Their defense is good. Sam Donald's playing out his mind. They have one of the best receivers and

That's your kicker and he missed he missed one easy one today. This guy looks like a perfect mix.

of spider and Jack Mac. But the bike is really good. You should be coach of the year. He should be coach of the year. Sam Donald, that was a cool moment when he walked into the locker room after the game and his whole team was waiting for him. You forget how many players on NFL roster, but he walked in and sounded like a full auditorium cheering for him.

then they picked them up on their shoulders. That must be one of the best feelings ever. Like you win a hard fought game and then all your boys are like, we love you. What's better than that? Not a lot. Not a lot. Not a lot. That's it. Have you guys ever been picked up on someone's shoulders? Like in a Rudy type moment? I don't think so. No. Woff and Roddy, you guys, you guys picked me up after Roddy. That was a lead. I think you're right. Back. Doing that.

That wasn't going to pick our boys up more. Yeah, we should start doing that more often because, yeah, Hank, I remember lifting you up after that. You were very sweaty, but I was mostly just happy that you weren't dead. Yeah. I'll throw this out there because our, because our boys down right now, he's going through it mentally. I think if the Eagles beat the Packers in the first round, we should pick up Max, carry him off. Yep. We should carry him out of the gambling case. Yep. Yeah. We'll do that.

Yeah, we're going to do that. We're going to do a lot of the commanders. Yeah. It's got to be against the Packers. If the commanders will be the house divided. No, we're going to we're going to beat the Packers. We're going to be. How about if it is Eagles commanders, when are that game gets picked up? You can't put that on me and be catch holders. I mean, no.

I'll need some help. Yeah, I would not. I would not help pick you. Oh, no. PFT, if it matters, I'll pick them up on one hand. Yeah. Don't be over your shoulder like a sack of potatoes.

All right, so Max, here it is, and I alluded to this earlier. I'm no longer worried about the Packers. They're a good team. I think, though, they're not an elite team. They are 0 and 5 against the best teams in the NFC. That's the Vikings, the Eagles, and the Lions.

They make a lot of like, like their offense looks, Josh Jacobs has been great this year. Jordan Love and maybe it was Christian Watson being out, but he did not play well until, you know, like late and he needed to, they needed to score fast. Like he, it just doesn't, it just doesn't look as smooth as you would like it to look going into the playoffs.

Um, also the whole, uh, what's going on with, uh, as I hear Alexander, did you see him after the game? He had the big hat, which I pretty sure has not been cool for like five years now. Um, and he was like, if I was playing in that game, we would have won that game. That doesn't, that can't really help. Right? Like that's not something you really want to have a guy who hasn't played in like a month to be saying post game. Was he wearing the cheese hat or? No, he was wearing like the big, the funny, big hat.

Right. Right. Yeah. But I don't think I think the Packers could like maybe win a first round game against like an Eagles, but I don't think they can go to the Super Bowl. Right. They're a little bit flawed, but they can run the football.

They can make it on the start slow though. They did it again where they started slow. They scored three points in the first half. And it's like, it's very like you can't do that in the playoffs. You can't have a slow start in the playoffs. And that's happened a lot for them this year where they've started slow and they had to play catch up. And it's like that's in a, in a, in an elimination game. Like you just can't do that for three rounds. Yeah. They, they've got their issue. I don't think that they're an elite team, but I think like, I, maybe it's because every time they play a good team, they play them very close.

They do. And I'm like, well, what are two things go the other way? And they win that game, but one or two things don't go that way. Yeah. I did like the floor going for it. When they were down 11, he went for, he went for it for two to make it nine, which I like that. That was a good move by him. Tom Brady was perplexed by that.

Yeah. He's like, well, I'm glad that it worked because if it didn't, that'd be bad. But yeah, that's kind of the deal like it worked. And it actually put them mathematically where they want it to be. It was like, I think more coaches should do that, but they had no fucking idea what was going on the broadcast. Also, did you guys listen to Tom Brady say the word sacks? Yeah. What was that about? He says it like sacks.

You took some bad socks. I think somebody at some point told them that when you say sex, it sounds like you're saying sex. So really announce really. Pronunciate the ah part of socks. Can someone play it?

He had a tough day. I'll say it. He had a tough day. He started the broadcast and he was like, I think it literally started. I think he was saying something about the Packers, like the Packers have lost to this team and then he's like, and what was the other team? It's like, how did you do a stat that you didn't even, you didn't even know the other end? And I think he's gotten better since the beginning of the season, but today was maybe not his best day.

Yeah, there was, there was one time where he called out exactly who was going to blitz, even though he wasn't lined up in a blitz formation. And I was like, okay, all right, that was, we're, we're doing something now, Tom. It's gotten a lot better. Yeah. Yeah. Um, do you have the clip? I want to hear it memes. You have it. You muted memes. Yep. I got it.

He's held on to the ball quite a bit this season. He's taken a lot of sacks It's a good it's like a nally girl thing. Yeah, it sucks This season alone so me socks. Why do you think so me socks?

Uh, yeah, I'm Max. You're going to beat the Packers. Don't worry. You're going to beat the Packers. They can't be good teams. And they don't have to play the Packers in the playoffs. Yeah. Yeah. But if they do, it's Eagles do have to. They have a better than the commanders.

No, the Eagles have to play them. That's true. That's true. And the Vikings, Kevin O'Connell's coach of the year, Sam Donald's, I saw there was a report that they're, I mean, they're basically, they have to keep him at this point. Yeah, franchise tag him. He's been awesome. And again, it was like the end of that game.

When you need a, and I know Aaron Jones was hurt, but like still, you're like Sam Darnell's going to win us this game throwing the ball in situations where most teams are just trying to run it up the middle three times and hope they get a first down. Sam Darnell passed twice and.

Yeah, it was the thing that finally, and I've already believed in Sam Donald. If you remember, we had that clip from three years ago, where PFT, you're like, I'm not done believing in Baker. And I was like, I'm not done believing in Sam Donald. So I've always had that in my head where I'm like, ooh, Sam Donald. But that drive after the interception, like that nothing rattles him now. Like, yeah, he made a bad throw. Okay. And then he went right down the field and was hitting everyone. And it was five for five and scored a touchdown.

Yeah, it's like they haven't had a whole lot of games where they've gotten Addison, Jefferson, and Hockinson going at the same time. All the sons. And today, they were all weapons. And Naylor. Yeah, and Naylor. How about Naylor, huh? Yeah.

He was awesome. Their offense is a problem. Is Aaron Jones hurt? That was weird when he took himself out of the game. Yeah. And then Kamakers, yeah, it was good. Okay. Wait, so this is for Sam Darnold, he sets a record now. This is the most wins for a quarterback in his first season with a new team.

It's never been done before, 14 wins. And he wasn't supposed to be the starting quarterback or end of this year. Yeah. Which is, I mean, good for him. I wonder how good Daniel Jones is getting just like absorbing that room and just being in that building. Because right now, I feel like Daniel Jones. Yeah. I feel like that's a good, that's a good room to be. You get better just by living with like in the, in the same zip code as Kevin O'Connell.

Yeah, Kevin O'Connell is the QB whisper. He's coach of the year and he is going to get paid a lot of money because I think he has like two years left on his contract. You got to re-sign him right now. He's one of the best coaches in the NFL and that's he wins all the close games and the Vikings are a real threat. And I, with the way the Lions have been injured, like,

The Vikings are, I feel like they might win that game on Sunday and get the one seed, which is crazy. They could. They very easily could. So yeah, this is, uh, what was the stat that we said the other week? There have been two 14 or four 14 win seasons in the history of the Minnesota Vikings and KOC has two of them. Yeah. Uh, yeah, because the 98 season with, uh, when they went 15 and one,

That was and they lost the NFC Championship came to the Falcons. What do you think about there? What do you think about the extravagant defensive celebrations for the Vikings? Listen, these guys got to have fun too. Yeah, this most recent one felt like it was like a minute and a half.

It was quite extravagant. It was very well planned. The entire defense was involved. It's like the movie, Baseball, where the refs get involved with the dance, too. They just kept going. And it was also, I was watching two separate pregame shows today on NFL Network and ESPN. And they both had long features on the Vikings touch or defensive celebrations.

That's when you know it's gotten pretty out of hand. It's gotten pretty out of hand at this point. But I guess, I guess they're not going to stop it. So if they're having fun, good job. Yeah. Um, okay. Let's wrap up before we do who's back in the week. Uh, a row back question, R H O B A C K dot com promo code, take 20% off your first purchase, q zips, polos, hojis, joggers, shorts, row back.com, promo code, take my row back question is Hank, did you write a boomer?

I did. Can you read it to us in a monotone voice? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Great. That's what we were hoping for. I wrote the, this is a rage boomer too. So I haven't, I haven't gone back to it. Wait. So what was your, tell us your travel day again? Some people understand.

I will say this. Listen, I was and I traveled from San Diego to Houston to New Orleans along the way. I had two flights get delayed. My bag got sent to Frankfurt, Germany.

It's your golf clubs? No, no, not my golf clubs. But it's closed. That's the thing. The people that I was with on the plane were so much more stressed out. And there was like a, when we landed in Houston, the lady, because we stopped and we got, we just got stuck on the runway for like an hour. And because they couldn't, there was no open gates. I guess there's construction going on at the airport. It was chaos.

And so when we finally get to a taxi, the lady like behind me was like, does anyone have a connecting flight in everyone? Like she was trying to like push up every single person was like, yeah, like everyone was on edge. There was a lady in front of me in a wheelchair. And so like I'm taking my time and there was people behind me like being like, you know, run like people were on edge sprinting through the airport like really upset. Like I was obviously like not loving it, but also not like,

You know, perspective, I was like, it's not that serious, not that big a deal. And then I realized my bag got sent to Frankfurt, Germany. I'm pretty sure that the person in front of me was going to Frankfurt, Germany. And like, when she scanned her thing, they just like gave me her tag and put that on my bag.

I don't really know. Um, that was kind of what I came up with, but it's not, it's not that big a deal, but it was like just a long day. But the, the people, people sprinting through the airport is kind of a funny, like people watching experience. Like just people were flying, people were upset. The lady tried to push her way up the flight. Um, so I had a long day, whatever. And then after all that, I was writing my boomer in the, in the cab ride to my hotel. Okay.

So what was in your bag that's in Germany? Just close. So it's like, I actually had my boxers and my toiletries with me. So it's like, all I need to do is go. I need to go buy. And I have my laptop and stuff. So like all the expensive stuff I have with me. I the lady did kind of like make me check my bags. She was like, Oh, can you just check it? Like it's a big bag. Like you have two big bags. I was like,

but it's a carry on. She's like, yeah, but it's a full flight, like just checking. I was like, where does it go to? She's like, it goes to your final destination. I'm like, all right, whatever. I wish I had like, push back, shot that down, but. Yeah. But this just means that your, your, your punishment is that you have to go out into Orleans and buy sick outfits. Yeah. I'm going to go get some fits off tomorrow. And yeah, I have having boxers and like toiletries in my laptop and stuff. Like it's, it's really not.

It's not too, too bad. It was just a long like, the lady was like, I'm like, I'm pretty sure like, she's like, well, this isn't your tag. I'm like, it is my tag. It's a tag that gave me whatever. It was, it was a long bet. Okay. Go ahead. Monotone. Yeah. Justin Herbert Hoover said, damn, that was smooth after a jazzy first quarter touchdown to Darius Miles Davis.

Drake Mayflower led a voyage down the field and connected with Itza Mia, Damario Douglas, for a touchdown. In the second half, Lad McConkie said, I'll be your wish, I'll be your dream, I'll be your fantasy championship winning wide receiver, scoring two touchdowns along with 94 yards to make a lot of people very happy. Patriots 7, San Diego Superchargers 40, this team can make some noise in the playoffs, boom.

Oh, I like it. Hey, the Texans. That was very good. Hank, what did you think about the game? There was a lot of booze. Um, it feels, we discussed it earlier, but like, John Mayo, like he should be fired.

That was a good game. And for Gerard Mayo, getting out of town, like that was best case scenario. I was with my brother. We were like, it was like, that was kind of what we want to wear. It's like, we were with my brother and some of our friends who aren't Patriots fans. And like, do you want them to win? We were like, we want them to get smoked. We want Drake made it play well, but we want them to get smoked to the point where it's like, get him out of town. Right. Right. And that's what happened. Yeah. PFT. Yeah. Hank, do you think that, Mr. Brown, what's that?

Drake made out another concussion. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think, do you think Mr. Kraft was a little bit upset and wanted to call a timeout to hate when all the fans were booing his coach? He was probably upset, but that's probably like the good thing. But yeah. Who is the upset? Do you think he's more upset at Mayo or do you think he was more upset as his fans?

cuz I feel like he's got a he's you know I feel like rich guys like they they're surrounded by yes men it's like situations like that they force you to look in the mirror

Craft is in that camp like Jerry Jones where I think embarrassment actually works. That's what I'm saying like they're surrounded by so many yes men that like you literally can't look at anyone else but the mirror when it's like oh fuck like this is bad. Like George McCasky embarrassment doesn't work because if it did he would have quit he would have like sold the team a decade ago but like craft definitely is like this is bullshit and yeah I mean that was a perfect game for you.

minus the concussion. Minus the concussion, which he came back to. Yeah, he did come back, but two concussions in a year, not ideal. Yeah. That deep ball that he threw to, what's his name? Pop tomorrow. Yeah. That was, that was an awesome pass. And for recognizing like, Hey, free play free play. Yeah. There's been, there's been enough of Drake May where you're, you're excited now, right? Like this is your guy.