Energy Transition: Charlotte Johnson shifted from ice sheet research to energy management. At Kraken, she focuses on optimizing distributed energy resources to adapt to rising renewable usage and advanced technology, highlighting the need for new market solutions to support modern energy systems.
Charlotte Johnson transitioned from studying ice sheets to focusing on climate change by managing energy resources. Her journey illustrates how modeling skills can apply across different sectors, especially in energy. At Kraken, she helps unlock the potential of distributed energy resources (DERs) to enhance grid reliability as demand for renewable energy grows, emphasizing the importance of modernizing energy systems to accommodate the increasing number of generators and users. As energy consumption evolves with technologies like EVs and smart home devices, innovative market solutions are necessary to ensure efficient energy management. This shift is crucial for maintaining a stable and sustainable energy supply.
Energy Transition: Utilities struggle to integrate distributed energy resources due to risk aversion and lack of monitoring. Digitalization is key to improving visibility and enabling flexibility but faces hesitation in adoption.
Utilities and grid operators are facing challenges in integrating distributed energy resources (DERs) like solar and EV chargers due to their risk-averse nature and lack of infrastructure investment. Many networks lack necessary monitoring, making it hard to gauge what changes are needed. Digitalization is essential for improving visibility and efficiency, but even with technological advances, there is hesitance to fully embrace DERs. These resources could provide critical flexibility to the grid when needed, but operators sometimes avoid using the term 'flexibility' to describe them, possibly due to concerns about reliability or control. The transition to a more energy-efficient system hinges on overcoming these barriers through better data and openness to change.
Energy Flexibility: Energy flexibility is essential for managing supply and demand, especially as we integrate more renewable sources, allowing utilities to incentivize reduced customer usage over increasing fossil fuel output, promoting sustainability and efficiency in energy management.
Energy flexibility is crucial for balancing supply and demand, especially as we shift from traditional, predictable power generation to more intermittent sources like wind and solar. This change requires utilities to adapt quickly, ramping demand up and down as needed. For instance, the UK's National Grid has created a Demand Flexibility Service, incentivizing customers to reduce their energy use rather than increasing coal production during peak demand times. This method can be much cheaper and more efficient, meaning that adapting our energy systems to customer involvement is necessary. By 2050, countries like the UK will need significantly more dispatchable energy capacity, moving from their current reliance on thermal sources. Overall, the shift toward more flexible energy solutions reflects broader changes in how we manage energy consumption and generation, ultimately leading to a more sustainable and cost-effective energy grid.
Energy Management: Customers can choose to participate in energy services, earning money from solar energy. However, in areas with high installations, grid operators may need to take direct control to ensure stability and manage the system effectively, especially in Texas with its growing renewable energy market.
In the energy market, customers have the choice to participate in services like solar energy. If they join, they can earn money; if they don't, that's also fine. However, in areas with high solar installation, like Australia and Texas, grid operators sometimes need to take control to maintain stability. This means they might limit the energy that can be exported to the grid if required. While some markets allow flexibility and customer choice, others need strict management to deal with urgent issues. This is particularly relevant in Texas, where the surge of renewable energy and decentralized resources has attracted significant international interest, highlighting the need for effective management of new energy sources.
Consumer Engagement: Texas is vital for energy flexibility, but states like Illinois and Michigan also offer opportunities. Engaging consumers is key, focusing on trust and their needs for affordable services.
Texas is a key market for flexibility platforms, where controlling grid-scale and residential assets is crucial. Other states like Illinois and Michigan present growth opportunities due to supportive regulations for solar and storage. Engaging consumers is vital; trust is essential. Customers want affordable EV charging and comfortable home temperatures, so utilities must design services around their needs to foster trust and participation. An effective strategy involves ensuring consumers feel involved and reassured that their utility is working in their best interest while also capitalizing on favorable market conditions across different states to enhance service offerings. This focuses on making the consumer the priority in energy management strategies.
Customer Control: Customers value control over their energy assets, needing simple options to adjust preferences. Over 200,000 have joined Smart Flex, managing 1.2 to 1.3 gigawatts of load, focusing on flexibility and optimization in energy resource management.
Customers want to feel in control even when they allow others to manage their energy assets. They appreciate having simple options to adjust their preferences quickly. This is how the Smart Flex program operates, giving over 200,000 customers around the world the ability to control around 1.2 to 1.3 gigawatts of load. The term ‘virtual power plant’ is used to describe how energy resources are managed, but it can vary in meaning. What matters most is the ability to optimize energy use for value while ensuring the customer can retain control. Flexibility in managing these distributed energy resources is key to adapting to market demands and improving efficiency, benefiting both the customers and the utilities involved.
Energy Transition: Utilities are struggling to connect distributed energy resources to the grid efficiently, especially since many renewable energy sources are far from demand areas. Improving market structures and locational pricing is crucial for effective energy distribution and achieving decarbonization goals.
As the UK and US rapidly install distributed energy resources (DERs) to achieve net zero goals, utilities face challenges in connecting these resources to the aging grid efficiently. Market structures are crucial to effectively transport energy from generation sites to demand areas, as many renewable sources are located far from where the energy is needed. For instance, Scotland generates most of the UK’s wind power, while the demand is concentrated in southern England. Similar patterns exist in other countries where renewable generation does not align with consumption. Therefore, improving market designs and locational pricing will help ensure that energy generated from renewables can reach consumers effectively, maximizing the impact of new, low-carbon technologies.
Energy Flexibility: Kraken offers a unique digital platform that optimizes the entire energy ecosystem, aiding the transition to net-zero emissions by emphasizing the importance of flexible energy resources.
Kraken stands out in the energy sector because it provides comprehensive digital solutions across the entire value chain, from managing generation assets to serving utilities and retailers. By enhancing power quality, optimizing control, and automating processes, Kraken supports the transition to net-zero emissions, recognizing the need for flexible energy resources worldwide. As countries aim to achieve net-zero goals, they are increasingly aware that flexible capacity is crucial. Stakeholders, from grid operators to regulators, agree that integrating flexibility will play a significant role in future energy systems.
Energy Flexibility: Kraken plays a crucial role in modernizing the energy sector by managing dispatchable assets and providing tools for efficient energy resource management, emphasizing the importance of flexibility in electricity generation and storage.
Flexibility in the energy sector comes from using electrification in heat and transport, alongside battery storage and reliable energy sources. Charlotte Johnson, a leading expert at Kraken, highlights how important these innovations are for power providers. Kraken itself manages a significant amount of dispatchable assets, showcasing their strong capabilities in network intelligence and asset management. For anyone interested in enhancing their energy systems, Kraken's platform offers solutions that optimize energy resources and improve reporting for providers globally. Their tools are essential for adapting to the changing energy landscape, making it easier for providers to manage diverse energy streams and enhance overall efficiency. This approach ensures reliable power supply while also addressing the growing demand for sustainable energy solutions in the market, proving that modern technology can lead to significant advancements in the energy industry.
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enSeptember 24, 2024
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Giving tribes a stake in the critical minerals boom [partner content]
Tannice McCoy grew up in a mining family, but she never imagined herself in the mining business. Today she’s the president and general manager of NewRange Copper Nickel.
Jenna Lehti never imagined herself in the mining industry either. She’s a member of the Bois Forte band of the Ojibwe tribe in Northern Minnesota, and grew up on a reservation adjacent to the Iron Range, a collection of mining districts around Lake Superior. Today, she’s the tribal relations advisor for NewRange.
Together, they’re taking a proactive approach to harnessing tribal support for the critical minerals boom.
NewRange is a Minnesota company pursuing a new copper, nickel, and cobalt mine in the northeastern part of the state, called NorthMet. It would supply minerals for a wide range of clean energy technologies.
But under a previous owner, the project faced setbacks – in part because of a lack of engagement with local tribes.
“I think part of that came from a lack of understanding of the tribe's sovereignty and their water quality standards,” said McCoy.
In this episode, produced in collaboration with NewRange, Tannice McCoy and Jenna Lehti sit down with Stephen Lacey. They explain what has changed with the NorthMet project, the importance of working with tribes, and the future of critical minerals mining in America.
“It's really about how we are partnering with the tribes to move forward and progress,” said Lehti.
This episode was produced in collaboration with NewRange Copper Nickel.
Catalyst with Shayle Kann
enOctober 08, 2024
DAC’s bumpy road to commercial scale
The world’s first large-scale, commercial direct-air capture (DAC) plants are coming online – or are about to. How soon will we see a boom in high-quality, durable DAC supply?
In this episode, Shayle talks to Andreas Aepli, chief financial officer of Climeworks, the world’s largest provider of DAC. They talk about Climeworks’ challenges with its two commercial plants – the kinds of challenges Andreas argues the industry needs to be transparent about in order to earn the trust of skeptical buyers. Shayle and Andreas also cover topics like:
The real-world challenges of building a DAC plant, like extreme weather, supply-chain quality issues, CO2 purity, and more
Why Andreas advocates a step-by-step scale-up of progressively larger deployments
How to set pricing and and structure a carbon removal contract
How to build a capital stack for a carbon removal plant
Why Andreas believes the market will become even more supply-constrained in the next few years
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Catalyst with Shayle Kann
enOctober 03, 2024
Ammonia: the beer of decarbonization
Editor’s note: There’s some big money flowing into low carbon ammonia right now. Last week, the U.S. Department of Energy announced a $1.56 billion conditional loan guarantee for Wabash Valley Resources, an Indiana low-carbon ammonia facility. In August, oil and gas producer Woodside Energy spent $2.35 billion on a low-carbon ammonia plant in Texas. Both of these facilities will produce low-carbon ammonia while using carbon capture and storage. We thought it would be a good time to revisit an episode with Julio Friedmann, chief scientist at Carbon Direct. He explains how ammonia could be used as a low-carbon fuel in everything from ships to heavy industry.
The irony of ammonia is that it accounts for a whopping 2% of global emissions, but it could also become an important low-carbon fuel.
It’s the primary ingredient in agricultural fertilizer. But when combusted, it also emits no carbon, making it a promising low-carbon fuel, too — for ships, heavy industry, and even thermal power plants.
But making the stuff takes massive amounts of energy, and ammonia’s feedstocks – hydrogen and nitrogen – also require energy.
So what would it take to slash emissions from ammonia production? And how would we actually use ammonia as a low-carbon fuel?
In this episode, Shayle talks to Julio Friedmann, chief scientist at Carbon Direct. Julio and a team of colleagues just co-authored a report on low-carbon ammonia for the Innovation for Cool Earth Forum.
They cover topics like:
Why some countries like Japan, Singapore, and Korea are especially interested in developing ammonia infrastructure
How ammonia compares to other low-carbon fuels like methanol and hydrogen
How we would need to retrofit coal and gas power plants to co-fire with ammonia
Addressing ammonia’s corrosion and toxicity issues
The areas that need more research, such as ammonia’s impact on air quality and radiative forcing
Key constraints like human capital and infrastructure
Recommended Resources:
Innovation for Cool Earth Forum: Low-Carbon Ammonia Roadmap
Canary: Watch this TED talk to get up to speed on green ammonia and shipping
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Chemical & Engineering News: Will Japan run on ammonia?
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Catalyst with Shayle Kann
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The state of connected DERs [partner content]
The U.S. and U.K. could see 500 gigawatts of distributed resources hitting the power system in the next few years.
But after years of watching DERs grow quickly, utilities and grid operators are still figuring out how to utilize them. Are we finally reaching an inflection point?
“When you move to a world where you have millions and millions of generators, that whole system falls apart. And that's where you need not only digitalization, but also automation. They're the two things that we can't do the energy transition without,” says Charlotte Johnson, global director of markets at Kraken, which has 40 GW of DERs under management.
In this episode, Charlotte Johnson sits down with Stephen Lacey to talk about the state of connected distributed energy resources – and why Kraken is so focused on expanding into the U.S. market.
This episode was produced in partnership with Kraken. Kraken's end-to-end platform offers full network intelligence, DER controls, asset health, and reporting for power providers around the world. To learn more about Kraken's capabilities, go to kraken.tech.
Catalyst with Shayle Kann
enSeptember 24, 2024
Can AI revolutionize materials discovery?
AI is working its way across climate tech, helping companies discover giant lodes of ore, catch battery defects, and monitor energy infrastructure. Could it help us find revolutionary new materials, too?
Turns out, it’s complicated.
In this episode, Shayle talks to Ekin Dogus Cubuk, or Dogus, a researcher focused on materials at Google DeepMind. DeepMind is one of several players, including Microsoft, trying to discover new materials that could be used in things like better battery chemistries, powerful carbon-capture sorbents, and room-temperature superconductors. But so far, Dogus says AI-powered approaches haven’t actually yielded any commercially-deployable materials.
Shayle and Dogus cover topics like:
Existing approaches to materials discovery, like experimentation and density functional theory, and how AI could complement those techniques
Why AI may actually require a lot more lab work – and larger datasets – before it becomes useful for material discovery
The types of material properties that AI may be especially useful for, such as optical or electric qualities
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Catalyst with Shayle Kann
enSeptember 19, 2024
The better mousetrap fallacy
Deploy or innovate? Scale up an existing technology or develop a breakthrough? Build, build, build, or invent a better mousetrap?
The question isn’t which strategy to follow; it’s which strategy to use in which sector. Virtually no one thinks that solar needs brand new tech breakthroughs to scale. Crystalline silicone took the lion’s share of the market years ago from cadmium telluride, amorphous silicon, CIGS and other early solar technologies.
But in carbon removal, batteries, nuclear, and other industries — should we develop new technologies, or scale up a promising few?
In this episode, Shayle talks to his colleague Andy Lubershane about the better mousetrap fallacy in climate tech. Andy is the head of research and a partner at Energy Impact Partners. He argues that, in certain industries, investing in building a better mousetrap is a bad use of capital, and that too many options causes analysis paralysis for would-be customers.
Shayle and Andy cover topics like:
How scaling up technologies – as Chinese manufacturers have scaled up solar and batteries – drives down cost
Why new technologies that aren’t five or 10 times better than an incumbent may fail to beat the cost curve
Whether batteries need breakthroughs, and how Andy thinks about lithium-iron-phosphate, sodium-ion, thermal, and iron-air
Why Andy thinks that the Nuclear Regulatory Commissions should license more new projects than new technologies
The challenge of having more direct air capture technologies than buyers
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Catalyst with Shayle Kann
enSeptember 12, 2024
The rise of climate adaptation tech
Cutting emissions is essential to avoiding the worst of climate change, but we also have to deal with the impacts of climate change happening now. Fortunately, there’s a growing list of technologies that could help us adapt — and potentially turn a profit for investors, too. Will these emerging adaptation and resilience (A&R) technologies take off as an investment category?
In this episode, Shayle talks to Katie MacDonald, co-founder and managing partner at Tailwind. They talk about the areas of application – like wildfire prevention, air filtration, health monitoring, and more – that are attracting the attention of governments, corporations, and investors. But the space is young and still needs metrics and definitions, which is why Tailwind developed a taxonomy of A&R themes and sectors and plans to release an “innovation playbook” with market insights in the fall.
Shayle and Katie cover topics like:
Defining the scope of A&R
Attracting resilience-curious investors to the space
The co-benefits with mitigation
How to measure the success of A&R
Growing demand signals from governments, such as California’s climate risk disclosure requirements
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Catalyst with Shayle Kann
enSeptember 05, 2024
Why are we still flaring gas?
Oil producers waste a lot of natural gas. Last year they flared 150 billion cubic meters of associated gas into the atmosphere, equivalent to about half the global carbon emissions of aviation over a 30-year period.
So why are oil producers burning a valuable commodity like gas?
In this episode, Shayle talks to Tomás de Oliveira Bredariol, an energy and environmental policy analyst focused on methane at the IEA. So far, multiple major global initiatives haven’t made a dent in flare volumes, which have remained largely flat since 2010. Shayle and Tomás talk about the reasons why and the potential solutions, covering topics like:
The nine countries responsible for about three quarters of flare volumes
Why we don’t just build more pipelines
Why oil wells may choose expensive diesel instead of powering their equipment with associated gas
Converting gas into more valuable forms, like compressed natural gas, liquid natural gas, or methanol
The potential for regulation and financial incentives to push producers to cut flare volumes
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Catalyst with Shayle Kann
enAugust 29, 2024
Hunting for geologic hydrogen
Hydrogen has two big problems: cost and supply. As a low-carbon feedstock, it could decarbonize planes, industry, and power plants. It could even replace the oil in plastics and chemicals.
But the leading contenders for low-carbon hydrogen production — like using zero-carbon power for electrolysis and methane pyrolysis — just haven’t cut it yet. So far, the price points are too high and the scale of production is too low to spur a hydrogen revolution.
But instead of synthesizing hydrogen, what if we pumped naturally-occurring hydrogen reservoirs out of the ground, just like we drill for oil and natural gas?
In this episode, Shayle talks about geologic hydrogen with Pete Johnson, CEO of Koloma. Early estimates suggest vast quantities of the gas could be tapped for far cheaper than other production methods. That is, if some major challenges are solved, like finding economically viable reserves, managing leakage, and building infrastructure. In these early days, those are all big ifs.
A handful of startups are exploring geologic hydrogen, and Koloma, which has raised $300 million, is the most prominent in the space. (Shayle invests in Koloma and serves on its board. Prelude Ventures, which led Latitude Media’s fundraising round, also invests in Koloma.) Shayle and Pete cover topics like:
The key factors that lead to reservoirs of geologic hydrogen, like water, iron-rich rock, traps, and seals
Why geologic hydrogen could become the cheapest form of hydrogen, if found in large, economically viable reservoirs
The greenhouse gas impact of hydrogen, which interferes with the breakdown of methane in the atmosphere
Why Pete thinks that economically viable wells will attract new infrastructure, like clean ammonia plants, the way Houston attracted oil infrastructure
Stimulating geologic hydrogen production by injecting water into rock
What sort of watershed moment would prove the viability of geologic hydrogen
Recommended resources
Latitude Media: Should we be paying more attention to geologic hydrogen?
US Geological Survey: The Potential for Geologic Hydrogen for Next Generation Energy
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Catalyst with Shayle Kann
enAugust 23, 2024
The cost of nuclear
Editor’s note: There’s new interest in nuclear power from electric utilities, the White House, and the public. While NuScale’s deal to build a small modular reactor failed last year, TerraPower is currently building the U.S.’s first advanced non-light water reactor in Wyoming. So we’re revisiting an episode from last November with The Good Energy Collective’s Dr. Jessica Lovering unpacking one of nuclear’s biggest challenges: cost.
Nuclear construction costs in the U.S. are some of the highest in the world. Recent estimates put the cost of building conventional nuclear reactors at more than $6,000 per kilowatt, as measured by overnight capital cost. But high costs are a problem for new small modular reactors (SMRs) too, killing what was going to be the country’s first SMR before it got built.
Meanwhile, South Korea has some of the lowest costs in the world. Estimated overnight capital costs for reactors in South Korea are closer to $2,200 per kilowatt.And then there are countries like China, France, and the United Arab Emirates that fall between those extremes.
So why the wide range in costs?
In this episode, Shayle talks to Dr. Jessica Lovering, co-founder and executive director at the Good Energy Collective, a non-profit that researches and promotes policies that support nuclear power. A former director of energy at the Breakthrough Institute, she also authored a comprehensive study of nuclear construction costs in 2016.
Shayle and Jessica talk about things like:
What goes into the cost of construction and South Korea’s secret sauce for low-cost nuclear reactors
Why Jessica thinks we should manufacture and regulate reactors like large aircraft
Driving down costs with modularity, small reactors, passive safety features, and more construction
Why changing regulations might be necessary, but not a silver bullet
Why the pro- and anti-nuclear camps talk past each other — and why Jessica says she’s somewhere in between
Recommended Resources:
Latitude Media: Is large-scale nuclear poised for a comeback?
Energy Policy: Historical construction costs of global nuclear power reactors
National Academy of Engineering: Chasing Cheap Nuclear: Economic Trade-Offs for Small Modular Reactors
Joule: Evaluating the Role of Unit Size in Learning-by-Doing of Energy Technologies
Science: Granular technologies to accelerate decarbonization
Canary: Future of small reactors at stake as NuScale deal flops
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Catalyst with Shayle Kann
enAugust 15, 2024