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Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast. I'm Susan Davis. I cover politics. And 2024 has been quite the year for me. Personally, when an election year is over, I'm ready to let it all go. But today we're going to talk about the things from the past year that we still can't let go.
You know, the things we just can't stop thinking about politics or otherwise, and to kick off this year's, can't let it go extravaganza. That's what I'm calling it. I'm first joined by my friends and my colleagues, Miles Parks and Tamara Keith. Hello to you both. Hello. Hi, Sue. I want click-a-palooza. Oh, I like that. Click-a-mageddon. Click-a-mageddon is a good one. Click-a-mageddon is dark. That's not good.
depends on how good your can't let it go is miles. So why don't you kick it off for us? What couldn't you let go this year? Well, so I feel like the obvious can't let it go for me is the birth of my first child. But I was like, can I just do like the beauty of watching birth? I don't think we could do that.
But related to that, you both have children of your own. In that first few months, which I feel like a lot of people had told me about how there's a lot of words that could be used to describe the first couple months of parenthood, but I definitely found myself
searching for things that would give me comfort at two in the morning. I remember Sue, before my baby was born, you gave me some great advice. You were like, if you need to order a pizza at any time of the day, if you need a beer at any time of the day, you just do it. Like, you just do what you gotta do. It's like airport rolls, but for parenting.
I found the most random of things which has given me comfort this year in the last seven months, which is watching people play poker on the internet. Interesting. You can just watch endless. I'm not kidding. It is an infinite stream of watching human beings play poker on the internet. And I swear to God, guys, I think I have watched more than a hundred hours of internet poker.
This year just because it has been the most like for whatever reason I find it like just the perfect amount of like I'm vaguely thinking about this but it's like mindless enough that I multiple times just straight up fell asleep to it like wall like sitting on the couch waiting between feeds and stuff like that.
So wait, this is not like World Series of Poker with- So sometimes. So there's two versions, and I actually kind of went down both rabbit holes. I actually found myself definitely drawn to the versions that had color commentary. So you can also find like live streams where you could just watch people play for many, many hours. That wasn't exactly my jam. At two in the morning, that was easy to fall asleep to. But most of the time, there was a show on Fox Sports called The Big Game. And it was these great color commentators. And there's, I think, close to 100 episodes. They're just straight up just on YouTube now.
And I watched from episode one all the way to the completion of that show, the entirety of it over my parental leave. And honestly, now I think for the rest of my life, when I am looking for that sense of peace, calm, I think this might be the place I go.
Do you think that you are a better poker player after watching all of this poker yourself? This is the question. I'm so glad you asked this, Sue, because it's a question I think of all the time. I've played poker one time since I gained this obsession with my high school friends, and I did win $90.
I don't know what that means. The sample size is very small. My high school friends, not the brightest bulbs in the shed. Wait, do they listen to this podcast? If they do, they'd take up Sam. I'm sorry. Maybe you made some bad decisions that night. So I would say I doubt it would be my guess. I've never been very good at poker. So I doubt that like me watching videos at two in the morning of other people do it.
has like had some radical impact to the point where I'm going to be like a savant now. But maybe we'll find out, you know, Sue, if you in the new year, we could we could hit the casinos or something. You know, I actually I enjoy playing cards and I I've learned how to play poker when I was a kid. My dad taught all of us. So Miles, if you want to start a little NPR poker league in 2025.
I'm open to the conversation. Just amongst friends, no money. Did you guys have a comfort thing or comfort content? Shopping. Purchasing things that you think will solve your parenting problem at 3am is definitely a past time. I also did more mindless television. I would watch a lot of reality TV.
Things with low stakes, low plot, like you said, you could fall asleep adoring it. And I also would just listen to a lot of music with my earbuds in, especially when you had a crying baby in the middle of the night. The crying can just get really exhausting, but if you just turn up music really loud, you can deal with a lot. I thought I was gonna finish the wire, but I didn't.
I've actually just started a rewatch of the wire. That's so weird. I, like, you just, you never finished it. You gave up again. I gave up again. Oh my God. And now the kid is six. So I don't know. It might not just be for you, Tim. Tim, what about you? What can you look off? This is news adjacent, but there are some news events where everyone remembers where they were when the news happened, where you were.
The event of this year is when President Biden announced via tweet that he was dropping out of the race for president. My story is that I was with my kids in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware there to cover the president, but we weren't expecting any news, and I was walking them to go get ice cream. And then bam!
The tweet came out. We were right in front of the ice cream shop. I was like, boys, we're running. We're running back to the hotel. We are running. We are going to get mommy's going to go on the radio and the look of like utter disappointment. What does that mean about the ice cream? There's no time for ice cream. But my story is like, eh, it's OK. The best story, the one that we will all remember where Wolf Blitzer was when this night came.
I don't know this. Oh, you don't know this? No. So, Wolf Blitzer, the CNN anchor, very serious man. You know, it was Sunday. Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. Yeah, 12.47 p.m. He sends a tweet, enjoying a Wolf spritzer at Elle Presidente restaurant here in D.C.
And the wolf spritzer is an alcoholic beverage that involves aperol, mezcal, lemon juice, sparkling wine. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yes. And then did he go on air after that? Yes. Oh, man.
Unstoppable, that blizzard. He was probably still drinking the spritzer when his phone blew up, and then he too was probably running. Although, in Wolf Blitzer's defense, I will say, and I think we've all experienced this at some point in our journalistic career, few things can sober you up really fast than a breaking news alert that means you need to get to work right away. That Sunday brunch cannot take a quick turn really fast.
All right. Well, thank you both for being here and a Happy New Year, my friends. Stay sober. Happy New Year. Happy New Year. Thanks, Sue. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be back with more. Can't let it go.
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And we're back and NPR's Alina Moore and Domenico Montanaro here. Hello to you both. Very happy to be here. Yeah, that's great. Alina, let's start with you. What can't you let go of? I cannot let go of is very much to say an end of an era. I would say.
The heiress tour just ended Taylor Swift's insanely successful highest grossing tour ever just ended and I haven't been able to stop thinking about it for literally a year and a half since it started March 2023 just ended in December.
as a human being who grew up listening to Taylor Swift, it was kind of amazing. There were so many crazy things that happened. Moments each show had these little Easter eggs. At one point, Taylor Swift's boyfriend, Travis Kelsey, came on stage and was a backup dancer for her. At another show, you can literally hear the crowd sing so loud that
It out, you know, it drowns out Taylor Swift's voice. Did you see any of the shows? So that's a, can't let it go from last year. I will say I always thought I was a tech savvy, very intense woman. I still think those things, but there is a different level that you need to be to get those tickets. Shout out to our incredible hill
correspondent Claudia Grisales, who is that person and when multiple times, but that requires you have to be subscribed to like 10 different fan websites. You need to have alerts. You need to have multiple phones. You need like a burner phone, basically. I was not cut out for that.
Huge fan one of the biggest regrets of my long life so far is not being able to go hopefully one day I will but the reason I can't let this go on top of my own personal Remorse is that this tour like actually changed people's lives like economically changed people's lives
It benefited cities around the country in ways that are pretty striking. There was some reporting from CNN that showed that it pulled all these different local reports. In Pittsburgh, during the tour, the city generated $46 million in direct spending. So this is outside of her own sales. It's like a primary.
Yeah, it's like, they compared it to like, these fans spent what you spend going to a Super Bowl, but like at every single show. In LA, it increased local employment by 3,000, more than 3,000 workers. And it's LA. Yeah, and local, the site says local earnings by 160 million. Kansas City, the home of the Kansas City Chiefs,
When Taylor Swift is of course dating Travis Kelsey one of the stars that to that tour when she finally went to Kansas City it brought in 200 million as well and the city has seen huge impacts from her just attending their Attending those games so like not only is she like you know making so many people's dreams come true doing all these old songs new things She'll so had all these albums come out
She's like making people have, like she's benefiting jobs, which I feel like, you know, someone, one of these articles called it is actually a local NPR station called it Swiftanomics. So like move over Bidenomics. Like this is crazy. So. And the thing I'll give Taylor Swift, she's a really good boss. There was reports that she gave up to $200 million in bonuses to the support staff, to the dancers, to the truck drivers, to everyone who helped put that show on.
And that's like a really unnecessary but wonderful thing to do, especially because I can only imagine how much money she personally made over this insane global dominating tour. She made so much money during this tour. And I think my end of an era is the era's tour. I'm really hoping she doesn't rest for long, which she usually doesn't.
You know how long this show has been going on? This tour has been going on. I was just thinking about how my daughter is a huge Serena Carpenter fan. And Serena Carpenter was one of the owners. Wasn't born yet.
But she was one of the openers early on in the tour in South America. And she wasn't really at peak Sabrina Carpenter yet. She was just kind of coming up a little bit. My daughter was a big fan of hers then. And I was like, who is this person? And then like now, here we are. And it's one of those crazy things because it's really sort of the touch that Taylor Swift has, whether it's on these local economies or other artists.
I also, on a personal level, just have to give a shout out to my friend, Senna, who is one of those Taylor Swift superfans. I think back at the envelope, she was one of the people who saw her eight times. Yeah, that's crazy. Three different countries. And we joke that, like, she's like, I don't have kids to pay for college. Instead of that, she went to Taylor Swift's concert. Definitely did. Domenico, what about you? What can't you look of?
You know, I have to say I was not sure that I was going to be in the podcast with you too. So I'm not sure that this is the best. Can't let it go to be talking about with a Phillies fan. Oh, it must be sports related. But if you say, I think you're going to say it is the 2024 Mets that I cannot let go.
No, that's fine. That's okay. What did you think I was going to say? I don't know, Domenico. Like you, it can go in so many directions. It could. I actually think this is going to annoy him if two people from winning sports teams are like, oh, yeah. It's okay. You can talk to us. Okay, keep going. Go ahead. Wow. And this is why people don't like the Phillies or the Yankees. I mean, it's just a reality, guys. Like, the fact is the wheel has turned in New York, and we know that now.
And it's not just like getting Juan Soto to sign with the Mets, which is the end of the year thing, which because, you know, the Mets owner has more money than any owner in baseball and is loosely the character who's based on, you know, Bobby from Billions is. Oh, I didn't know that. I didn't know that.
Yeah, it's kind of crazy. But it's really because of the vibes of the 2024 season. I mean, I had Yankees fans, including Alina, coming up to me and saying, you know, I'm kind of rooting for the Mets. And it's like, that is a big deal because, you know, my dad is a Yankees fan, my brother is a Yankees fan.
who I call front runners because I grew up two miles from Shea Stadium. And you could see the glow of the lights from my bedroom. And, you know, they just picked the Yankees because they won. And I did because I picked the Mets because, you know, it's the Mets. And how you always been a Mets fan? Always. OK. I mean, when you were a little kid, you were a Mets fan. Yeah, when I was seven years old, the Mets won the World Series in 86, the last time they did. I remember during the playoffs in that in that year, the Mets were playing the Astros.
Um, and they were is one of those multiple inning extra inning games. I'm sure it was like the 14th or 16th inning, but it was about 11 11 30 at night and I'm up, you know, sitting, uh, cross-legged watching in front of the TV and my dad comes out from the bedroom and he's just like, what are you doing? You have to go to sleep. And I was like, but they're in like the 16th inning.
Uh, okay. You know, he's a gym teacher and a coach. You got it. You know what I mean? You'll just be tired and homeroom tomorrow. Those are magical games too. But I will say, yeah, I mean, 86 was the best team I've ever seen. Obviously best year I've ever seen in my lifetime, but nothing will be like 2024. And that's because of just what happened this year was kind of magical. I mean, starting off the year, the Mets were 11 games under 500. It looked like a season that was just going to be
dirt, and we were just like, you know, it's another Mets year. And then this happens. Fans, please direct your attention to the pitcher's mound for a ceremonial first pitch, introducing the ultimate baseball fan all the way from McDonaldland. Please welcome the one, the only Grimace. There is no other organization in baseball where this season could have happened, where we had Grimace throw out the first pitch and the Mets go on this crazy winning streak.
Then we have Jose Iglesias, who was the Mets backup second baseman who assigned to a minor league contract, who apparently moonlights as a Latin pop star, Candelita. And he had a number one Latin pop hit OMG. And that became the soundtrack of the Mets. And he performed it at City Field with the entire team. I'm sorry, Elena. No, you're right.
There is no way the Yankees would ever allow that to take place. If Aaron Judge was like a pop star somewhere where they're like, yeah, everybody grow beards and have a big, you know, celebration on the field. They would have, Hal Steinbrenner would have a heart attack. I mean, not allowing that. And then this crazy run through the playoffs where we saw
just magic happened, it felt like home runs, getting to the very end of the playoffs in the championship series, wind up losing to the Dodgers.
winning one more game than the Yankees did in the world series against the Dodgers. Yeah, that's true. I mean, listen, you know, my mom is also from Queens and families are always divided on the Mets and the Yankees and you always got to just respect that. Also, the Mets have the best fan base. Like, I shouldn't say, I'm not going to say. The Mets strike that, producer strike that. Don't put that out right there. Please keep it. That's the truth here. No, the Mets have a really iconic fan base and
Um, yeah, I think I'm fingers crossed for you, Domenico. And Sue, I always, I always joke that like the difference between Mets and Phillies fans, it was, we're very close. We use the same, you know, swear words and we even yell at our own players. We don't go bad. Not that different. We don't throw, we don't throw batteries at our own players. Yeah, I'm sorry.
And I would say that if a Phillies fan fell at City Field, and Mets fans might curse at them, but then help them up, I think if I fell at Phillies Park, I might not survive. Well, let's not cast this version here. The thing I would say,
is that, and also I always joke that I grew up in a Philly sports fan family and I married into a New England sports family. That's gonna say. So like I just come from the two most hateable portions of sports fandoms, but I would say this, I am a big fan of fandom. I don't actually aggressively dislike any music artist or any sports team. I really respect people like Domenico who like lifelong Mets fans, like the childhood association with it. I think like that is a wonderful thing.
We need to take one more break and I need to let both of you go. And of course, Happy New Year. My New Year's resolution is that I get to see Taylor Swift and that Domenico gets a World Series. Yeah, let's not go that far. I mean, Mets fans are always hopeful pessimists. Thank you very much. So Happy New Year. That's all I'll say. All right. We'll be back with one more. Can't let it go.
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And we're back, and we have some special guests here for our final Can't Let It Go segment. These are the voices you don't often get to hear in front of the mic, but are absolutely crucial to actually getting you the episode every day. And they are our stellar production team of Jung Yoon Han, Casey Morrell, and Kelly Wesinger. Hello, my friends. Hello. Hey. Hi, Sue.
A little bit of a behind the scenes magic is that I don't normally get to decide the order we do can't let it go in. That is a power generally housed by Kelly, I believe. But since you guys are the ones in front of the microphone today, I'm going to make the decisions. And I'm going to say, Kelly, what can't you let go of?
Oh no. I can't let go of Celine Dion's insane performance from the Olympics this year.
So my husband is a teacher, so obviously he has summers off. And I came home from work and he immediately was like, I recorded something. You have to watch it. You're going to cry. So he played Celine Dion's performance from the Olympics. And for those of you that don't know, she has stiff person syndrome, which is a neurological disease where you lose control of your muscles.
So she was having a very hard time singing and hadn't sung publicly in a long time and then she made her debut from the Eiffel Tower in the Olympics opening ceremony and I just burst into tears. I started sobbing like immediately. It was amazing.
She's an amazing performer. And I think that everywhere, especially like, you know, she had her whole Vegas residency that was like sold out every night. I mean, she is just one of the most spectacular vocal talents, not just like today, but maybe ever. Like, I don't know how you could even compare her to her sound is so singular. Like, you never hear a song and you're like, who sings this again? There's no one else like Celine.
She's incredible. And also to be clear, like, I will quit anything at the slightest inconvenience. So it was so inspiring to see her overcome this disease. I mean, she still has it, but like, to sound like she did while singing with this disease, I was just totally in shock. It was fantastic. That is the motivation we should all be bringing into 2025. Well, that's really amazing. Agreed. Casey, what about you? What can you like of?
You know, this was hard for me to decide, Sue, because a lot of things have happened this year. But the thing that I can't let go of is just how small this world is. And this is a super broad way of putting it, but I will explain earlier this year. I went on a great vacation to the Baltic, so we went to Finland, Estonia, and Latvia. And I highly recommend if you've never been to that part of the world.
You have the chance to do so. Go for it. But the thing that like blew my mind while I was there, people who know me, friends of mine know that I'm a huge sports fan, which is not necessarily something that comes across in making the politics podcast every day or in the work that I do. But if there is a sporting event to go to, if there's sports to watch on TV, I am there. So one of the things that my girlfriend and I did while we were in
Tartu Estonia is went to a top league Estonian soccer match. And, you know, this is one of those things where like you just roll up. It's like a high school football game. There's no assigned seats. Tickets are super cheap. Drinks are super cheap. And I'm talking to one of my best friends.
as I'm at this game, I'm texting him, and I'm like, I'm at the game, it's really fun. And a minute later, he sends me a photograph, and it's a picture of the TV broadcast of the game, which he somehow found, and he said, is this you?
It was the camera had gone to a point on the sidelines, and you could clearly see me and my girlfriend sitting there, and he's like, I would recognize you with that Kansas City Royals baseball cap anywhere. And I just thought to myself, the idea that A, you can be on the other side of the world and see someone that you know on television doing a random thing. In real time. In real time is just, it's one of those things that makes my mind go,
I can't stop thinking about it. Casey, I have to say that you would probably be easy to spot at a sporting event because you do have a lot of very loud shirts. I do. A lot of loud sporting jerseys that you like to wear to the office. I think I could spot you on a camera too. I think that the idea of dress for the job that you want mine is clearly just like court jester at this point. It's that Casey drip.
Jung Yoon, I'm going to give you the honor of 2024 and that is to give us the last can't let it go of this otherwise unforgettable year. One of the things that has been stuck in my head ever since it first started was the lookalike contest that I've just taken over cities across the world.
So for context, this first started off with a lookalike contest for Timothy Chalamet in New York. There was a group that started to say, show up here at the Washington Square Park in Manhattan, and the number of people that flocked to that park on that day was insane. Every wave in Brooklyn.
And Timothy was there himself. He showed up. Oh, I didn't know that. That was the first one. Ever since then, there have been a bunch of different celebrity lookalike contests in different cities like Death Patel in San Francisco, Jeremy, Alan White in Chicago. And I've been watching this just unfold on social media. The energy at these crowds are just so fun to watch.
because there are people cheering for their friends because they look like this person. They think that they look like this person and they want to root for them. So they all show up. And so actually I'm in DC and there was a look like contest for DC and that was Jack Schlossberg, um, so DC, which he is a member of the Kennedy clan.
the famed political family. He's Caroline Kennedy's son, right? Caroline Kennedy's son. I went just to see what it would be like, and it was like my city, and I wanted to go see if there was anyone who looked remotely like him. I will say there were about 10 people, and I was a little disappointed. I just didn't think the people who showed up had the energy at all.
I think they tried. It was a lot of fun to see. I'm not going to yuck their yum, but I will say I wasn't floored by the people out there. Okay. Maybe I'm a hater, but like, I feel like nobody looks like the people in the look like maybe it's more about having the same energy. I have to project that energy. All right. Fair enough.
And that's the thing that I really like and enjoy about these look-alike contests is that it really doesn't matter if you look like the person or not. It's more the fact that people are going to just show up to do this really random event in their home city or wherever they are because they want to have a good time. They want to laugh, see who shows up and mingle. And this is the kind of energy that we need to have in 2024 and now 2025. I'm going to ask you all maybe
Arguably the most loaded question I've asked all year long, but have any of you ever been compared to a local like to anyone? Yes, I used to get somewhat facetiously when I started wearing glasses and had longer hair would get Rachel Maddow also.
I think it's the glasses. Yeah. Yeah. Casey, that's so good. I get Natasha Leone sometimes. Oh, you have a big hair. I like that one, though. Yeah. If there's a Natasha Leone look like contest, you have to participate. I will. I promise. This is my vow to you, Sue. She's also someone like she has distinct energy. Like you would have to win that contest. You would have to project a certain vibe. Yeah. I feel like I'm up to the challenge. I believe in you.
I don't really have anyone, but my mom will say that I look like a mini her. It's just really sweet whenever she says it. So that's my celebrity look like, which is my mom. Your mom's a celebrity. Now we know who Jung Yoo's mom's favorite is, which is kind of sweet.
Yeah, I'm sorry, Haman, if you're listening to this. All right, thank you all for all the work you did this year. And we should note a special farewell to Jung Yoon. She is leaving us at NPR, but she's staying within the public radio family. Jung Yoon, tell us what you're going to go do. Yeah, so I am going to be going over to WXXI News, which is based in Rochester, New York, but
I'll be working out of Albany, which is a state capital to do political reporting there. So very much in the line of the NPR Politics podcast. And I've really enjoyed working with you all. And maybe I'll show up on the pod for some New York coverage. Absolutely. I've heard there's some stories to cover up there. So hopefully we'll have you back and we'll have you back soon. I love y'all. Thanks for doing this. It was super fun to get you on the other side of the glass. We love you. Love you, Sue.
Love you all. I like ending on this note. Thank you all for everything you do to make the podcast. And we should also give a shout out to our executive producer, Muthoni Matori, our boss, who also makes it all happen. I'm Susan Davis. I cover politics and happy new year. And thank you for listening to the NPR Politics podcast.
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