Spencer Pratt: How to Be Famous (FBF)
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December 06, 2024
TLDR: Spencer Pratt discusses his famous connections, life in Hollywood, and his fall from grace in reality TV, before storming out of an interview when asked about irrelevance. He shares stories about name-dropping many celebrities and spending a sleepover with Hillary Clinton.

In this exciting episode of the Call Her Daddy podcast, host Alex Cooper welcomes reality TV star Spencer Pratt. This conversation dives deep into the wild world of fame, its evolution, and Spencer's personal experiences throughout his journey in Hollywood. Initially, the episode holds intriguing insights about becoming famous and Spencer's rise to stardom, but things take a swift turn as tensions rise, resulting in Spencer storming out after a provocative question. Let's break down the core discussions and notable moments from this episode.
Key Takeaways
What It Means to Be Famous
- Spencer Pratt underscores that fame isn’t as appealing as it once was, stating, "fame isn’t even cool anymore!"
- He discusses the evolution of fame from the 90s and early 2000s to today’s social media-driven culture, highlighting that today’s generation chases viral success rather than traditional celebrity status.
- The contrast between instant fame on platforms like TikTok and the crafted celebrity lifestyle of yesteryear reveals underlying societal changes in how we perceive and achieve fame.
Hollywood Experiences
- Spencer gives listeners an insider's look at his early celebrity interactions, recalling meeting Meryl Streep and his bizarre slumber party with Hillary Clinton as a child.
- He reminisces about his days as part of a reality TV couple with Heidi Montag, touching on how they were once the world’s most notorious duo, often receiving negative attention.
- Reflecting on the impact of early reality TV, Spencer mentions how the landscape has changed, allowing for more genuine expression in today’s shows compared to the manufactured drama of his time.
The Dark Side of Fame
- In discussing fame's challenges, Spencer reveals his attempts to join the Illuminati, highlighting the sometimes bizarre lengths individuals might go to for acceptance in exclusive circles.
- He recalls stressful moments of public scrutiny, detailing how fan reactions and media rhetoric could spiral quickly into hatred, particularly towards himself and Heidi during their peak.
- Spencer addresses the darker aspects of reality TV production and manipulation, exposing how footage can be edited to create false narratives and emotions, ultimately affecting personal relationships.
Engaging with the Audience
- Spencer candidly shares his strategies for maintaining relevance in a fleeting fame landscape, emphasizing the importance of understanding one’s audience and adapting accordingly.
- The discussion touches on the competitive nature of social media fame, where grabbing attention today can be a ticket to success but is often short-lived.
The Controversial Moment
- The episode reaches a climax when Alex asks Spencer a challenging question: "You will obviously never be as relevant as you once were, how does that make you feel?"
- This prompts Spencer to express his frustration and storm out of the podcast, illustrating how past fame can create complex feelings and insecurity.
- The interaction underscores the emotional toll that fame can take on individuals, often leading them to reflect on their self-worth and relevance.
Spencer's Legacy and Future
- Despite the tumultuous discussion, Spencer remains optimistic about his future in Hollywood and the entertainment industry. He hints at upcoming projects that could rekindle his career.
- Emphasizing that he's not done chasing celebrity, Spencer’s focus has shifted towards creating a stable environment for his family and leveraging his experiences to forge new paths creatively.
Conclusion
In this smashingly candid episode of Call Her Daddy, Spencer Pratt reveals layers about fame and its impact that many might not consider. From his wild Hollywood stories, thoughts on the evolution of fame, to the emotional challenges posed by past public scrutiny, this episode is a treasure trove of insights for anyone interested in the realms of celebrity culture and reality TV.
As listeners, we not only get entertained but also educated on the intricate dynamics that define our understanding of fame in the modern age. Spencer’s journey and experiences serve as a fascinating case study into the highs and lows of seeking celebrity in today's world.
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Spencer Pratt, you will obviously never be as relevant as you were. How does that make you feel? Oh, yeah. Fuck you. Fuck this interview. Stupid podcast. Fuck this shit's over in here. Is he actually leaving?
What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper. We call her Daddy Gang. Okay, here we go. Mr. Pride.
Oh my gosh. Look at this outfit. I love it. Oh my god, it's so nice to meet you. That was attacking me. Oh my god, the devil? Well, the second I get in my car, it's never happened in my life. It says, engine cool. And I'm like, what the fuck does that mean? So go to the gas station. I'm like, oh, buy engine cool. And I put it in. And it's like spraying out. I call BMW service. They're like, you need to tow it right now. I'm like, I got to go to call her daddy. Oh, fuck the car.
Oh my god! Okay, can you mic yourself up immediately? Because we're getting into this. This is very fancy. Wait, isn't it cute? It's my Spencer, it's the first time I'm using these. I feel honored. I'm honored because I knew you were someone that would know how to put it on and use it. I usually let them do it. That's like the perks. So I should have done it. Okay, we're going over here to make it great. You didn't even get good tequila. This is embarrassing.
I won't actually touch these bottles. Wait, are you serious? Oh, I can't be on camera with that. Wait, what do you drink? I mean, a bootleg enough would be like class of zoos as low as we're going to go. This is all I had from like a random. You know, watch. I'm not, you're not getting me on camera. Hold on. I mean, this was, I drink this in. Wait, do I have anything else? Spencer, I tried. You're on 1942, come on. Spotify, what is going on? Budget cuts.
I have a champagne bottle. Okay, so Spencer, right off the bat, is just shitting on me for not having a good ticket. That car coolant, that was a lot. Okay, yeah, let's talk about what happened. All right, so I get in the car, I was going to be very early, I was going to send the car, meditate, just visualize the best freaking podcast ever. And I get in the car and it says engine coolant. I'm like, I'm not a mechanic, but this looks, it seems bad.
So I go to the car place real quick. I'm like, I need engine coolant. I'm very late to the biggest podcast in my life, statistically. And so he's like, oh my God, it's leaking everywhere. And I'm like, pour more in. So when I called BMW, they're like, you need to tow it here, right? I'm like,
I'm not towing it like, the car can shut down on you on the way there. I'm like, well, then it's going to shut down because I'm not missing this. Let's fight the dog again. Okay, do you want to pop the dog? I mean, I'll drink that. Okay, let's do that. Let's do that. That's a better way to go about it. Okay, I feel like you should do the honors.
You know, here's the thing I've learned because Heidi's a professional champagne bottle opener. I used to like the, like, excitement of... And she's like, no, you're not even supposed to have, like, barely a noise. It's not a game to, like, you know, a guard that you come in like that.
You treat it like that, because people are like, you know, so the key what I've been taught is you just slowly, it's less exciting, but it's not waste, it's money.
I'm so honored to hear they're going to love you. Since you are popping off on TikTok, I need to know what is your strategy?
It was drinking and then that's why I haven't been tick-tocking. Well, here's what happened. Here's what happened. I don't know how it happened. So what people loved to, so I had to stop his height. He was like, you play the hills in the house anymore. Like I'm a choker. I see can't even, it's like nails on a chalkboard. So I'm like, honey, these are going viral. Like this one just did a meal in like 10 minutes. And she's like, I don't care. Like stop talking about that. So I'm like, it's relevant to a niche micro audience.
So it's a hard balance because I'm also blowing up all these people that I can't stand. I kind of love that Heidi's like Spencer knock at the fuck off and you're like can't hear you a million views got to go.
This is so delicious. Spencer. Spencer. I can't believe you don't have a charcuterie plate though for us. Oh, okay, we're going upstairs to the interview. Are you ready? Should we bring this or no? Let's leave it. You need to drive home in your fucked up car. Oh, no, I'm towing it. Oh, here? You're towing it here? Oh, you're towing it here? I wasn't supposed to get here. Is Heidi picking you up? I said I would. It's over. It's over. Black Uber. It's over. It's all about the money. Let's go upstairs. Oh my gosh.
All right. Deep breath. No, I'm praying. You're praying. Do you want to pray out loud? Please God have this just be the greatest podcast to ever hit
the waves of this dimension, have it just touch so many people's hearts in a positive, enlightening way, God, and just truly be a blessing for everyone's ears. And if they're visually watching this with captions, just when they read it, just have their spirit just be uplifted and inspired. Amen.
That was a little too much Holy Spirit, almost fainted there. Oh my God. Do you believe in God? Oh yeah. But I mean Heidi took it to the next level because she's like a preacher. Really? Like I was trying to be in the Illuminati when I met Heidi.
We were you really? Oh, 100%. I didn't realize they're like drinking blood and, you know, all the weird, I thought I was just like sex parties, like eyes wide shut. Oh, right. Everybody older than, you know, 18. Totally. You wanted to be a part of the sex parties. Not just the party, but like that, like the Tom Cruise movie, like that looks, you know, pretty like minus like people disappearing. It looks like my vibe.
Thank you for kicking us off. I feel really Zen and calm. I almost just started crying. I don't know if it was tears of joy or laughter, but it was something you got an emotion out of me. I mean, it hit me too. I don't know. It's good AC in here. Like I almost fainted. Okay. Spencer Pratt. Welcome to color daddy. I am so honored. You grew up in California going to school with celebrities and celebrities kids. Who was the first famous person you remember meeting in your life?
Oh, hands down, Meryl Streep. I was on the set of Death Becomes Her, I think it was the title, where she's like falling apart. So shout out, she would deny knowing me at this point. But I think her name was Mamie Gummer. We were BFFs. We were very young, we would go set, and it was Meryl Streep, and I would be chilling on set, so, yeah. I did not expect the answer that's fucking baller. Oh, I mean, I went to Crossroads. The list, like, goes on, but that's like,
That's a domain. The cool, like, just in this mansion and, you know, I mean, then it's next, you know, I'm having a slumber party with Hillary Clinton, you know. So, I mean, like, my total. Wait, you have to clarify. You're having a slumber party with Hillary Clinton? What do you mean? So, my best friend, Charlie, his parents were best friends with the Clintons from Arkansas. And so, when I was a kid, you know, I'd always sleep over at Charlie's house, but one night, you know, you know, I was pre-checked, you know, I knew this was gonna happen.
So, Secret Service did their thing. I think I was a safe 14-year-old or whatever. And so, yeah, it was a slumber party. It was in the kitchen with Hillary. That was wild. So you referenced your high school and how you were surrounded by a lot of famous people. What were you like in high school and what did the other kids think about you?
Well, I try to say that I am exactly, you know, I've learned a lot of lessons, but I would say I'm the exact same person that I've always been and I haven't changed. So, you know, I had just as many people that didn't like me back then. You know, I had, you know, enemies putting up, you know,
Dick's drawn on my face around town, you know, so I came in like hot, you know, so I think because You know for my private school world soccer was our big sport. We didn't have football teams so
Um, I was for my world really good at soccer. So I was on the older teams. So, you know, when I was 15, all the seniors, I was rolling with them. So, you know, everything got fast forward. Like when I watch, I don't watch you for you. When I see clips, I'm like, Oh my God, this is the Disney channel compared to like LA and growing up, you know,
Now it's crazy because you just die of fentanyl and whatever. So it's definitely like darker now. So I pray for these kids. But it was amazing. Everyone's always like, oh, why don't you like write it like people who know me. You should write a memoir.
like no way. You wouldn't. Well, right now I just found all these tapes and I was like, maybe I just cut together like Heidi was calling it selling Spencer was because I really have just been trying to sell myself for all these years. Not my soul though. That's the one thing I've stayed strong. That's why I'm not rich and famous because I didn't cross that tier of what would have crossing that tier looked like though because I think to the world it looks like you sold it.
Oh, no, there's a whole nother Satanism level there, you know, I didn't unlock. Like, what would you do? I mean, I what do they do? Right. These people that you just they're not upfront with it, but there's a we're talking spiritual level, not like, Oh, what'd you say on? Yeah, like these people are going.
Okay, so it's interesting because I feel like what you were saying about being in high school, like you were always kind of this like polarizing figure. They're going to be people that like me and then they're going to people that don't like me and that's okay. But when you were younger, did you ever get in trouble for your temper?
Well, in one soccer game, you know, back story. So in high school, you know, we went to GNCs, you get protein powders, you get energy. So at the time, there was this product called rip fuel. And I was like, that's every brand I want to be ripped and fuel. So, and they had a strawberry flavor one. So I was be hitting rip fuel before games. Um, you know, you just mix in your water. It's legal. It's like, it's like Gatorade for me, whatever, you know, I never drink Gatorade.
Um, it's not brought to you by Gatorade. I can't be promo in Gatorade. So yeah, I was all pumped up on rip fuel, you know, and it's very competitive. And I was taking this very serious. And so this was the semi finals and
There was like a team little meeting the night before the game that this coach who no longer the coach for a reason. Shout out Fed, the new coach. So the seniors didn't go to this team meeting that was unnecessary the night before a game. So the next day.
biggest game of the senior year, semi-finals, he benches all eight of the best players, the seniors, hands down the best players, including myself. We're now losing at half, like 2-0. You know, I'm pacing the side of the thing. I'm like, we get it. And he wanted to make a point like, we don't need you. He thought they were going to do fine with whatever. So finally, at halftime, we go back in. I go in, score two goals, tie it up, so pumped up.
score a third goal. Now we're winning. He goes sub. He tries to pull me out. I'm like, I don't know if I flicked him off or I'm like, you know, I must have been me like, what's up? Like, you know, I mean, the crowd, this was back when people cared, you know, you know, like living, you know, this was our Friday night light. Right. It was probably on Friday too.
And so I went to the sideline and maybe got in the coach's face. My mom ran on the field. My mom, this was crazy what he did. So my mom backed me up, but I didn't hit anybody. It was just yelling. He's yelling back.
So I get called in because they're maybe going to suspend me and they're like you were acting very pumped up like were you on something? I'm like, yeah rip fuel like what's rip fuel? Can you bring this into like the principal office? Tom Nola and Bob Riddle just retired by Bob
So I bring in the rip fuel and they read the back of it and it had a bedroom in it, which is now illegal and they decided was like speed. So I would just dose up on, you know, rip fuel. So that got me not suspended or expelled or whatever. But other than that, like, no, I was teacher. I have tight with all the teachers. So you got to blame your behavior on rip fuel? I mean, it was a stimulant.
Totally. Was anyone else taking it with you? The whole team. I mean, I was more pumped up. So who was your first famous friend?
Like the first famous person we started kicking it with was Paris Hilton. Pete, the most famous person on the planet. That was when I saw firsthand real deal, new modern tabloid fame. Because I had grown up with A-list celebrities, parents, and I saw that's more low-key. And this was Pete, Paris coming in the game, tabloid cover, energy, paparazzi. And I will always say, I'm not close with her.
that but she was so consistently nice and like a she didn't even need to like I'm like entourage hanger ronner like rando and still got treated with you know so I'll always say you know shot good for you that Paris Hilton era was the beginning of it all with paparazzi like
Do you think that sparked something in you of like damn no i was i was telling people age 16 bring it in us weekly covers time for us get ready on the cover of us weekly and be like what is this my mom always had tablets i grew up with tablets on the house and but nobody appreciated them like i did so i was but i was very parents i was already coming hot like.
There was no doubt in my mind. You were going to be on those tabloids. Okay, but in your head, Spencer, what were you thinking you were going to be on the tabloids? I had no idea, but I was like, I'm going to be famous. He's famous. He will have it so figured out. I mean, because when you grow up seeing how famous you will live, like
you know as just eyes on like the reservation that's world's over by the way like people are like oh he's so thirsty he still wants to be famous like fame isn't even cool anymore now and I would love to have it but it's still not you know 90s to early 2000s when these people live I mean they were taking helicopters landing on just the rules have changed to the game so what I grew up thinking fame was is so different like I wouldn't grow up now be like oh all due respect TikTok I love
being viral on TikTok, but I don't think I'd be like, oh my God, I want to be a viral TikToker as like what I was chasing. If you had grown up in Ohio, like, do you think because of where you grew up and what you were around is why you wanted to be famous? Because you got to... Oh, 100%. Like I think in Ohio, one of these art states I would have ended up in like Delta Force and gone in the military or better spy or something.
Yeah, that was my brand. That's why I don't have tattoos because that was always like, well, if I am going to be Jason Bourne, you can't have tattoos. So, you know, like, I was like deep in, but the problem was I lived in the Palisades. I was like, I'd get killed or like go to Nobu. I want to go to Nobu, not have to go in a different state. That's the energy I have. Okay. I was looking this up and nowhere is this story. When and how did you meet Brody Jenner?
Rewind to eighth grade. I won't say her last name. Maybe she's anonymous. Heather was the it girl on the eighth grade soccer team. And I was on the soccer bus because they had other guys and girls on the same soccer bus Brody played no sports. So eighth grade. Heather was the hot super hot superstar girl and Brody.
was her boyfriend. And so I was like, this dude. And Brody at this time thought he was pre-M&M, I think. But Brody was like a large M&M, like no pun intended. You know, he is a bigger guy. He loved melt cheese. I later found out he just melted Cuba cheese and just like eat it with a spoon. So he then got ripped and like changed. But this Brody was like a wrapper, melted cheese. And I was like, how is this happening? So we had just,
Beef in the sense I was like, how is this your girlfriend? Like we have soccer practice together. We have way more in common. So I don't know what I said, but we got in like the only little shoving match in middle school. So that way we have beef, right? But then years later, this girl that I was seeing
Casey, I won't say her last name because I'm not trying to catch a case. She was dating me and somebody tells me that's Brody's girlfriend. I'm like, she's not Brody's girlfriend. So I bring it up to her and I'm like, do you have a boyfriend? And she's like, well, I didn't think we were like exclusive. I was like, oh no.
I don't care. That's all good. But it's like, I reach out to Brody through mutual friends. I'm like, yo, you know, I know we're not cool or whatever, but we should meet at Don Antonio's and talk, you know, because I guess I heard he like, love this girl. And I was like, and so we meet up and I'm like, your girlfriend is not your girlfriend. And I'm like, I didn't know. Like she told me, but when I found out, that's why I called you. And he's like, I'm going to come like, no, no, no, no.
You know, this is pre all these team movies. We should have made a team. It was like, I think we play this out a little bit. So we started becoming best friends on like making plans with her. And then the other person would can't like he'd cancel. And then she called me and I'd be like, yeah, yeah. And then she'd make it those plans. And like we did this for a while to the point where like, you know, maybe we crossed the line or whatever, you know, but it was like, you know, you want to play the game. We'll play the game. So we became best friends at this is probably 18.
How did you get cast on the hills? So now we're going back to, um, I'm now in college. I don't know how I see something about the Osborne's making $25 million for the, and I'd seen the show. I was like, Oh, this is entertaining. They got dogs pooping. Hazy yells like that.
Um, and so I'm like, I'm going to make a reality show. So I call Brody and I'm like, we got to meet at P.F. Chang's when P.F. Chang's it just, this is like P.F. Chang's was Mr. Chow's at this point. There wasn't Mr. Chow's like, this was the hottest Chinese food spot you could go to.
So, we meet at P.F. Chang's, he brings Chucky, his like, consigularity, like, advisor, Chucky Da Koo. And so, I'm like, I want to make a reality show about you. And he's like, oh, I don't know about that. And Chucky's like, you should do it to Brian. And he's like, oh, this is my advisor. And I'm like, and he's like, here's the deal. If you come to my house tomorrow at 8 a.m. with the camera, start filming, I'll do it. And he's calling my bluff, because I'm a sleeper in at this time. Like, I'm not trying to be up all the way in Malibu, like, at Cross Creek.
So I had a camera because I had just tried to shoot a documentary in Brazil about like, I tried to make my own taken, you know, pre-taken with like a kidnapping and I shot this full film that I was like,
It's pretty hardcore because it was like, I use real people and like, like people that see it are like, this is so inappropriate and intense, but like at that time kidnapping was like the big thing and I was already in Brazil and I, you know, I was like, I need to make a, so it looks, it's too real, you know, like it's like, so I'm like, whoa, like it was like, oh, the,
We're in, we're tourists and then like the vans come and duct tape, like it's crazy. You guys should like, but it like, I could have, if I had like a good editor, I would have won a Sundance because it was like, no act, like I went to the favelas, gave people cash, all real guns from like, got real cops to like, I mean, it was so crazy.
Cause I want to be a filmmaker, you know, like, I didn't, you know, like I was cloud was like Michael Bay, like, you know, so I was like, I'm major. Yeah. So I added this, I show Brody. He's like, bro, don't you dare show anybody. It's like, you will go to jail. But I mean, everyone's in on it, you know, like the.
Yeah, but yeah, and Brody's like people are gonna be a little concerned. This was your girlfriend at the time like it's like she wanted to be an actress like she was actor There's clearly evidence showing this was you know, everyone was like and like It was as real as I needed a kid now show in Brazil like I just So I had the camera the good camera GL2 cannon and so I show up 8 a.m
I have this one tape, like I re-watched this the other day. I show up camera on him in his nose, just trolling him, like pushing it in. So I tell my parents I'm withdrawing from USC and I'm taking a leave of absence. They're like, what? I'm like, I'll make a reality show. They're like, oh my God. I'm like, don't worry, I can go back. I'm in at this fight. They're like, I'm glad he's back from Brazil.
We I started just filming everything in the house, but his stepdad is a superstar mega success and in real life. He's literally telling me Stop fucking filming me get the fuck out of my house and you know at the time Paris and and Nicole were on Fox. That's all I was saying. This is Fox Dave You know, I didn't appreciate who he was Brody said he makes elevator music like that was my
This is David Foster. Like, so that's my percent. And I'm like, oh. Like, you make elevator music, fuck off. Yeah, like, that was the energy. Like, Brody's like, says you make elevator music. So I had no, like, oh, it's David Fuzz. I'm like, in his face. He's swearing at us. You know, he's like, get the fuck out of my house. And my head was like, we have a bigger man.
We have a bigger mansion. There's more dogs here. They're like 10 dogs shitting everywhere. And he was a superstar. And then we have Brody's mom, Linda Thompson, who at one time Elvis was trying to marry dated Elvis her five years. Linda's incredible TV legend. So she's playing all into it and letting us like, let the boys do the boy. You know, so, and I'm living a life too. I'm never stopping filming because they got the chef. I'm going in the fridge. I got a plate that says Dave. I'm eating his food all day from the chef.
and we edit right there just like, you know, a few minutes. On Sunday night, I get a call from this guy.
And he's like, Spencer, I'm like, who's this? And he's like, it's Peter. I'm like, Peter who? And he's like, Peter churning. He's the chairman of News Corp that owns Fox. And he's like, you have a meeting tomorrow at 9am with Gayle Berman. I'm like, cool, who's Gayle Berman? He's like, Spencer, she's the president of Fox Television. She knows the deal. Just go to the meeting. I'm like, okay, it hangs up. I'm like, okay. So I called Dave Foster as I talk. She I'm like,
Going to Fox, Fos-Man, you know, talk on the smack. This is where he murked me out because he didn't have like, now he's like, oh, this is real. So he didn't have faith in me. Like, I don't think he knew what level I had already got it done. So he calls his boy, his David's Canadian.
He calls his homie from Canada, like they tried to do some projects together in the past, and he's like, you got to go to this meeting. So I pull up, like out of a movie, and I get to the Fox lot right there. Every time I drive by it, and I still am like, God, what a memory that you just came to make up.
And I pull up my Spencer Pratt for Gayle Vermin. And they're like, oh, sorry, somebody already used your drive-on. I'm like, what does that mean? They're like, you're going to have to park on the street. And I'm like, wait, what? So now I'm like parking down Pico, like running.
And I'm in my dumb purple shirt that I thought was a fancy shirt. I didn't have designer clothes or whatever. So I had this stupid purple shirt on. Somehow, later in that day, Peter churned and seized me. He's there and he's like, don't you ever wear that dumb ass shirt ever?
Uh, okay, so I go into the meeting and I get in the elevator and this guy in this full suit is smoking a cigar and we're going up in the elevator and he's big old guy and he's like, uh, you know, I'm like, who's this guy and these other guys in suits? And so they're like walking with me and we're all walking and I'm like, oh, they're all going in the same place as me. So Gail offers us in that meeting $3.7 million. I'm like, yeah, deal, deal.
deal fucking deal. And they're like, no, we're like, we're going to go see some, we're going to ABC. And I'm like, who the fuck are these? Like, no deal. And so they jacked me and they like, if I hadn't called David, I would have had so much more creative control, but I was 20. And so then I find out, like, you know, I get a lawyer and they're like, yeah, they're saying you're not the executive person. I'm like, I'm like, that sounds like I sounds like I am that. And they're like, yeah, they're saying you're not. So I call a future. I'm like, they're saying I'm not.
And he's like, makes a call. And now I'm executive producer. I was the youngest executive producer of a network television show to this day in history. And they try to fight that. And so then they make the show. And at this point on my first day of filming a Fox show,
Keep in mind, this is when Fox was peak Fox. We are getting launched with the reboot of family guy on Sunday nights before the Simpsons. Our sponsor is Coca Cola McDonald's that we're like getting ads and they're like, I am going to be a millionaire like in a month.
I have my walkie talkie that says executive producer day one I'm behind camera they're filming and then everyone's like Spencer you need to go in and like do what you're doing cuz in it everyone's always talking shit to me right like in the sizzle and everything cuz I'm like the like crutch the the bat like the guy that lives in the guest house to energy the kato kaolin vibe right so I'm like nah I got my walkie talking like you'll get to keep your walkie talkie I'm like
Okay, so I didn't realize I like it was like the Matrix pill like I that was when I sabotaged my entire life of being taken seriously Crossing in front of that camera. I was like, oh, yeah, I get my walkie-talkie still like my title But yeah, I didn't get that was the end of like anyone ever be like respecting you in this business But which is crazy to hear too for you Spencer because by you
They clearly were like, wait, we're filming this shit, and we're not getting the same thing that Spencer came with as DVD, because it was you. Brody was so comfortable with you being like, Spencer, get the fuck out of my face, and David Foster's like, Spencer, everyone knew you, so they were giving you that content. They're not gonna do it as easily in front of these random guys with cameras, so they needed you to get back in there, but that sucks that then your credit basically got taken in terms of a producer.
So I look still this whole time not getting that nobody else was going to think this, looked at myself as an on-camera producer. I was just filming, doing the story by it's da-da-da-da. So that night, Linda has a talk with us, our first night of filming, and she's like, I caught David cheating on me in the studio. And I'm like,
Well, so what are we doing here? And so we pretty much just beg her to just pause this. I now appreciate it more, but at the time, I was so deep in this is our
Like, who cares? Like, let's roll. Like you, let's launch. Like, and so she gangstered up and was like, I'll do, and I didn't really understand what she meant. Like, I'll do the filming, but I didn't get. So then let's fast forward the night the show premieres. She's like, I informed Fox that I'm filing for divorce tomorrow morning. And I'm like, what are, what do you know? You know, nowadays that ratings up, people love that dark thing. This is a family friendly Sunday. I get my third call.
From the chairman news for his ex-fencer what the f we bought a family-friendly show for Sunday nights I'm pulling the plug after next week's episode is done So we get the one you know rated well for the summer We get one more and I just lost and I spent all my money that my first check on my BMW that now I like didn't have money for gas, you know Figured I'm speaking like because I was like game on, you know, we're gonna be so rich
Damn, that's wild, that like day one of filming. Oh, so that just set the tone. Caught him cheating, and you're like, wait, no, we need one this house to film it. Everything. There's two, we need the family to get there. And then the rest of the season, they just like, she tried to fake it for you. Yeah, she did, and she's a real good actor. Damn. So I get that call, I'm like, oh my God, I have to go back to college. You know, like, so now I'm back in college. Brody Jenner had step siblings at the time.
When do you remember meeting Kim Kardashian for the first time? And what was she like back then?
All right, so I just shout out Esquire magazine for profiling me and the big, I thought this was gonna be like positive, but since I said I should be Kim Kardashian, people like got all weirded out about that, but I feel that. So I'm just gonna defend myself. So now we're at the first night of the Prince's Malibu, our Fox show. I didn't even know he had stepsisters. I wasn't even aware. Maybe I met them that night.
like totally irrelevant. A week later, you know, this has been denied, but Rody's the witness and I don't know if he'll, maybe he'll say it, but it's true. We get a call from Chris Jenner, who I don't know and he puts her on speaker and she's like, we should do what you're doing in Malibu with our family in the valley with your dad, Brody. And he hangs up and I'm like, the valley!
You know, because like when I grew up, like you did not, this isn't me saying this, this is what I grew up knowing. There was nobody filming anything in the Valley except pornos, you know, like that was what the, I, you know, that's where they shot. Yeah, people used to shit on the Valley. It was, yeah. Now, give me one of those 80 million dollar Valley houses, I guess. It's still unique, good AC, I don't know. But, so we laughed, and I've thought about it a million times.
Was that the call that like sabotaged my whole life that I didn't take? But then I really thought about a million times. They went to then to Ryan Seacrest, who had a first look deal with E. They had to make a show per his contract and they went to him and
He had the power of not only E-News, kiss FM was popping, he just got American Idol. Like that's a solid, I don't think if Brody and I had gone with cameras, shot the Kardashians, it would have been what the Kardashians, like everything came perfect for what their magical portal happened. So I've thought about it a trillion times, but I met her for real for real in the club, I remember area.
you know, she was wearing like an Hervey ledger, silver, purplish dress, you know, and she, Kim looked like a superstar and was famous. She deserves day one jump. She was famous at this point energetically. She knew who she was going to be. So she had that aura and like, you know, I was joking with Kim and, you know, we were all having fun. She was totally cool, but that I remember meeting him and like her at the club and like,
you know, then she later filmed on the hills and organized Heidi's closet and they didn't use the footage and I once said this in an interview and her publicist was like, this is absolute lie, da-da-da-da. And then MTV pulled out the clip. I think one time they ever backed me with receipts and like showed, unedited Kim, like every now and then somebody tags me in a tweet of her like tweeting at me, like, you mean Heidi and Reggie need to go on a double date. And I'm like,
How was I so popping in my head that I'm not like following through with this double I did fall through when Miley Cyrus tweeted us and we went and double dated with her and that so I wasn't too insane but if I had done everything different and if I was like super
like for how thirsty I am like what I should have done is been friends with everybody that's what Kim is was so good at and I'm not that type of person like I don't want to go have fake lunches and fake drinks and what if I played the game like a pro I would have gone to drinks all the time with people that hated me and I hated them back and we just all be fake but it's like
That's the problem with being a real person, which is good for reality TV, but not for networking and building these. Because people will message me like, oh, we should do this. And you can reach out to your celebrity friend. Like, my what friends? I got my friends from preschool. And they don't even want me to name drop that I know them.
No, I appreciate that because I think that a lot of people don't know about the Princess of Malibu, like if you're on TikTok, sorry, but people may not know about it. And I think that it was interesting when you look back at your history that you started this like
basically little reality show following Brody around and Kim is just like there in a scene and you're like, whoa, like this was the beginning. And then I, I believe you that Chris called because it's like you guys were doing it before the Kardashian started it.
No, and, uh, at the time, Bruce, not wasn't Kalen. So at the time, Bruce was filming for princes. So Chris is, they didn't use any of the footage, but like he would come film and he'd be on it. So he's going back home and tell like, this is crazy. And, you know, at the same time, the simple lives popping. So Kim's knowing about reality TV through, uh, Paris. And that's when reality TV really started to pop off was like,
Slowly like the simple life and then obviously though the biggest I think was when the hills popped off and that was when it was like Holy shit. This is reality TV and because yes, I got to the hills Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's gonna be a two-part car daddy podcast
Come on, we're going to merge, get your merge call at A.com. So, um, so wait. So yeah, so go back to college. And then one day I'm back from class, whatever. And my mom's best friend, Lucy, they're in there watching this show. And my mom's friends, Lucy said, you should date this girl. She's so cute. And like, what is this? And they're, they're watching and she's like, date this girl. She's so cute. And it's Heidi. I'm like,
What is this show? Like how is this even a show? It's the season one. I'm like, this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen in my life. And I'm like, this on TV. Like, yeah, it's so cute. There, there, there, there. And I see one of the names of the executive producers was a guy that Brody and I literally hired, like, we had a meeting. We hired, so I have a cell phone number. I call them. I'm like,
You have a new show and you didn't put Brody in on he's like Spencer No, it's a set cast of this girl from Laguna Beach She like it's not like them like oh no, it's like that. We'll see you in the club like I don't think so that's our show you got like Hollywood like this one Brody was like
Running the clubs and like so all the respect no girl from Laguna Beach is doing a Hollywood show. I'm like they have a Hollywood show and you're so Including us like yeah, so we're out. It's for us club was called privilege Justin Timberlake was just popping with sexy can I I think I remember it just like hitting so hard in the in the frickin club and saw
This is when I was very into dancing. You know, this was people dance back then. People weren't too cool to dance. We wanted to stand around like it was like dancing time. So I was dancing and then Christian was at the bar with Heidi and Heidi just in season one. I didn't know.
what even that meant. Nobody hills was not popping. So Heidi and I clear the dance floor. We're having a great time dancing, hit it off. We all drive back to Brody's house in Malibu. So she ends up spending the night. We, you know, she says it's love at first sight. I guess now in retrospect, it was, but you know, I had, you know, player, ego, cloud fame vibe. So I was like, and then she tell, you know, we're seeing each other, but she is seeing, you know, she's not exclusive either to me.
When I met Heidi, she was writing a book, had chapters, how to outplay the player. She had game galore. She was not this like innocent victim like, oh my God, Spencer's talking to those playmates. Like she was talking to old dude over here and old dude here. Like she had
She had an A-list athlete and an A-list actor. She was dating when I was supposedly looking like the bad guy. So if they'd showed real Heidi and not this bootleg, just making girls look like this, that was where you got to see an awesome girl that I would fall in love with who
Show a girl game that like yeah, like this is why I liked her. She's like you know victim I wasn't playing her it was like battle We were like a master chess dating and so that's tell us who she was dating
Yeah, she was dating Chase Crawford who was like the it, like hot guy, you know, peak, you know. Gossip girl. Yeah, like, couldn't be cooler. So she wasn't like, oh poor Spencer, like there was not that energy. I love hearing you say that though, because I always felt that vibe from Heidi, but they always cast her as this like damsel in distress, like Jordan's being mad mean to me and then she meets you and it's like Spencer's being mean to me. I'm like, that's not the vibe I get from Heidi.
So the problem with Heidi and I, we love making TV shows and doing what producers are saying. Here's the problem with the hills. All male producers, East Coast, Waspy frickin dudes that they're now in charge of representing young women in Hollywood and they're putting their toxic male weird
narrative spins that they, that's not facts and it's not real life. Cause I don't even think any of these guys date, you know, like they don't know, maybe they saw it in a movie or something. Like they can't fathom a woman, like a spitting game on a guy and like change your number. Like fuck you. Way better show too. It's like real Heidi was, I always say this, people to this day, like, oh, how are you still here? It's like, cause you don't know real Heidi. Like you guys are all like it's like, it's like, it's like, you on your toes.
Yeah, like I'm they're not showing me begging her to be boyfriend girlfriend. Yeah, I don't want that title. Like, you know, like she was more. Yeah. Yeah, she was a gangster. So now knowing that's actually a really great story that it goes all the way back to your mom looking at the TV and being like, oh, you should date this girl. And then you guys actually meet and you immediately have a vibe. What was your first impression of Lauren Conrad when you met her?
What was your first impression of Lauren Conrad when he met her?
Oh, so let's do a disclaimer here for, you know, LC stands because there was like, oh my God, he still has to talk about LC. It's like, no, no, I was connected to a television franchise. And this is a co-star that is part of my fame people. I would love to have never talked to her for about the rest of my life, but I am a great guest and I am honest and truthful. So there you go. So that's for the comment section. So.
I mean, nice, nice girl. Like I, we, it was all good to the point where I talked Brody in to breaking up in the Cole Richie to fake double date with LC. So like, that's the level of how I felt about it. Like let me help make your life better by bringing the best looking guy in Hollywood right now, who all the girls want to date. I'll get him to break up with his celebrity, you know, superstar girlfriend. I will get him to come onto your show, pretend to be your
You know, interest to just everyone wins. You know, so like, I was a, I'm a teammate. I come from being on a team sport. I didn't play tennis. I didn't play golf. Like the team wins. That's how I've always thought. So I was like, let's all win. We'll double gate. And I was already in the, you know, game from like working with the paparazzi for Princess Amalibu and setting up our shoots. And so like, I was like, you know, our first double date.
I had us coming out of the Grove, you know, all due respect to LC. She'd never been in a tabloid until I unlocked that for her and gave her the, you know, as a teammate, not, you know, I don't want credit. I wanted us all to win. So I had our paparazzi. This is pre the entire world now does this. This was, this was
vintage genius where you work with them instead of like hiding from them because this one tabloids sold like albums like you could Drake you know one week three million sales on us week like this was super powers that I knew understood and I just watched a season two episode LC knew because if you look at on the couch she has every tabloid in her lap that's what she's reading so don't be mad at me girl so we come out of our double date
And I'm like, make sure you guys look to the left. You know, this is off camera. Just I'm really trying to like get us all to hang out with friends because now Heidi and I are seeing each other, not boyfriend, girlfriend. And she's like, what? And I'm like, it's our camera. And she's like, you call the paparazzo. I'm like, yeah, to get you into Mac. And so that was, I was like, oh, you're not all there, you know, like.
don't have a full deck running here as you're trying to be on your second television show. It's not like I'm all for people who don't want to be famous, but you're on a second show. You spun off. I get a fella near lap in high school and it came to you and you auditioned, but now you spun off. You are choosing the path of fame. So now I'm like, so she from the jump kind of was weirded out. Like, oh, Spencer's, that's why she'll say things like, I don't trust him.
You didn't understand, like, I was ahead of this game. Like, I already saw how this worked on a way bigger scale, because I'm not from Laguna Beach, you know, like, I'm from here. And watching Paris, watching how Nicole, like Nicole's an actual, you know, we ended up having a falling out or whatever, I was misquoted, I think. But she's a genius. So like, she's a fame genius. So I studied under, you know, I'll call her a mentor in the fame game.
She just, oh, she's, she, she knows the game. That's why Paris called her smartest friend to be her teammate. She didn't call Kim, you know, but so back to like, you know, everything, we were best friends. She's like, you want to meet my dad, but eventually the Brody couldn't play pretend anymore. Yeah. I wasn't saying fake date. I'll see that wasn't the initiative. Like I was like, this would be great. Like high-end school, they're roommates. Like I was hoping it worked out. It didn't work out from night one.
You know, like, so once she was on to that, she wanted her amazing wing men, which I under wing woman, totally get Heidi to not be with me. So her selfish motivations, she can put it on all these reasons of like, Oh, I don't trust him or look at she knew Heidi, like she knew Heidi's game that she knew about this. And we know her these girls were not victims. They had their own television show.
They were in the right in the heart of Hawaii where they're going out every night getting tables. These aren't these like pilgrims that like we're like, oh, it's poor little innocent, you know. Yeah, these girls are savvy and I didn't get raised on being on television while 16, 17. Like you're a veteran at this point. Like yeah, I understood.
the back side of like tabloids and media, but when it came to making a TV show and like, mercing out people and like, you know, what comments say this, like, this is a black belt level. Yeah. With regard to your relationship with Heidi, how did you guys separate reality from reality TV to keep your relationship healthy? Thank God the show was so fake that it was, you know, every time, and now and then,
Heidi would get a little too drunk. One time in area, she knew I told her, we're going to call these playmates. I'm going to bring these girls. And she knew. And she's like, I'll meet you there. And then drunk Heidi's asshole. And she really got all up in her feelings. Because she's like, I don't even want that.
That's the problem when you play reality. Like there's times where, you know, it affects you in real life. So thankfully it was so fake that all the fighting and everything was so like planned and rehearsed and scripted that it didn't.
And then the other thing is we lived in my parents' house in the Palisades, like in my high school room. So we leave Hollywood and just go have our simple life. And we weren't up in the scene like it looks. So we never lived in that apartment that we filmed in or that house we filmed in. So I imagine it would have been harder if we were immersed in that world. And these were our real friends and our real relationship. You guys really took a turn to be like the most hated couple in the world.
And Heidi got all the surgery. Did you ever try to convince Heidi not to get surgery? No. One thing I never try to do with ever with Heidi and what people understand is like, Heidi's the boss. I work for Heidi to this day. That's this whole, that's the people who really know the inner workings of our relationship.
like excuse me my French like I'm the pussy whip like you know like it's not like oh Heidi I think you should do this like Heidi came from a little town in Crested View with dreams of being a star like she like so no I never told Heidi what to do because I just I was I was just filming her she'd like put the camera on me cameraman like you know if you watch the footage like I'm just her cameraman I said yes you're like I'm literally your cameraman
So, also, let's rewind a surgery because it's in tears.
first time she even got the idea of getting surgery was Us Weekly approached her and was like, hey, we have this top plastic surgeon. It wasn't even in her head, you know, that wants to do, you know, we'll give you a nose job and implants and how he's like, and they're like, this would cost 50,000, whatever. And Heidi's a hustler and she's like 50,000 for free. And this Us Weekly is coming to me. I'm not going to say his name, Ken came to her. And so,
You know, yeah, you know, and she'd grown up getting made fun of about her nose her whole life You look this was early day comment section every single comment I'm always like don't read that is just saying she has a Jay Leno Chan and so she's now in her head of all these things that's early You know comment section so that she has this meeting with this top, you know, rest in peace. Dr. Frank Ryan. He's dead and
But she has a meeting with him, and he's showing her all the A-list superstars, all the things he's done, but you know, sign top secret. They're not telling anyone. She's realizing this is the game.
So she does the nose job, boobs, it's not the end of the world. She didn't have to tell the truth also. This time, I'm not going to say other big pop people were literally without a doubt got nose jobs. That was standard operating procedure, but I'd use this honest, like, I'm going to tell people this is what I did, which I'm like, I don't care, whatever.
Keep in mind, I've already dated 90 for so long, in love, already felt like this isn't like, oh, this is what you need to do now for us to be like, we're already battling the world. Like, this isn't going to change our relationships. I'm like, I don't win, win. Like, I don't care either way, whatever, do what you want to do to your body. I'm scared of me. I couldn't even, I can't even get shot. It's like, so it's way past my world of knives and, you know, so all good.
the follow up, the one that people all freaked out on, I'll never forget, I even have it on video, as she's going in, cause she, when she was doing her Miss Universe, she got elbow by one of the backup dancers, and they hit her nose, and so she like, like, it's like, dead in, they're gonna like, pop it out, whatever. So she goes to have like that done, that morning, he's like, hmm, while you're under,
We could just, little, and I hear the word minor so many times, it's like, it's so early in the morning when you drop these people off for surgery, it's like, I'm not even thinking, I hear minor, sorry, just like, I don't, I hear, it's already got lip injections, that's the minor, like, oh, the minor, and you hear the word injectable, and this, it's, everything's minor, and he just had this blue pen, and he's just like, there's a lot of blue, neither of us are thinking like, oh my God, he's like, this is minor, is the word we heard a million times, cut to like,
the most traumatic. So no, it was not like a positive time. That's also just so crazy to hear you talk about it too because of like how manipulative and
really scary like when you're young you don't understand and these doctors should do a better job of explaining like the fact that they said minor to you and you're like it was in the morning also the fact that you're like it was the day of and they're like we can just do this like we'll scoop out your back we'll pin back your ears we'll understand the price of each thing and back to Heidi who's like a banker he's like this is 25 that I mean it was like a quarter million dollars when he like
He's like and I'll cross all this was like out of like a movie where he like you're like shopping for clothes and they add it all up and he's like void zero dollars So it's like in her head miss business. It's like a business like oh my god He's giving me a quarter million and like making this what
I'm not gonna name stars, but this is what all they do, but they spread it out. Everything she did is standard A-list. Totally. I'm not naming the women, but it's obvious. This is standard A-list women, but once a year, you don't knock it all out. You don't drop it off at the body shop. What do you miss about being one of the most famous couples in the world at the time? Oh, just the money.
Yeah, if you asked me to never be famous or just be rich, I thought being famous was the easy way to get rich. If I put the amount of energy as I put into being famous as just doing a normal rich person job, like a banker, I would be rich. So yeah, how are you getting just paid by Coca-Cola to hold a Coca-Cola? He's $10,000. What? So that level of
And then people were like, why do you want to be famous? Because it's so hard, but it's so easy when you're getting the checks. At one time, we were making $1 million. You're selling our paparazzi photos, going and looking cheesy, dressing up and dumb little Easter Bunny.
So that part is hands down. That makes sense. People hated you more than people who murdered people. You were more hated than O.J. Simpson at one point. K.C. Anthony. Yep. How did that make you feel at the time?
Well, at the time it was a victory, because David Foster had put me into the game by he knew Simon Cowell. I didn't watch American Idol, and he was like, Spencer, once the Fox started going, he's like, you need to be the young Simon Cowell. He's like, who? He's like the hated guy, the villain. I was like, gotcha. Sounds easy, coach. Put me in.
There was no social media. I was so naive to think, and I thought everybody knew Hollywood was just lights, camera action, fakes could be. I didn't understand middle America. This was Bible, you know, like this was, you know, the Holy Spirit over here.
And I'm over here just trying to get ratings bonuses. Like if we ever got to five million, I got a million dollar check just that day. So no matter what I'm reading, I'm over here like chasing a million dollar one, like we're like at four point two, four of them like, oh, what could I do to get to that million dollars to do what I'm already doing that night.
My mindset at that point at one time I had like hate Spencer Pratt calm where like you could go and like comment like I hate like I thought it was so fun and like Ridiculous until you know I started driving around and like everyone just flicking me off out windows like oh my god
Like, who's watching this show? Like, chill. Like, I thought this was like a fun, like, party show. Like, isn't the news on? Like, aren't we in Iraq? Like, isn't there a war? Like, I just never understood, because I came from, like, Play Per 10 with the princes and everything. And I just thought, you know,
So, no. You understood what you were doing and then when people didn't and they thought it was real, you were like, wait, guys. Yeah, and I, yeah, no, no, and like Brody will say to anybody that's like Spencer planned every single, like he's a witness to like the pre, like the blueprint, like
I executed it too well. And here's how they got me. And this is how the predatory producer and me being naive and Heidi just hit me with this and I was like, oh my god, I'm so triggered by that quote. They were always saying,
We're going to read this is your redemption arc. We're going to redeem. So I'm always chasing like, you do this. And then we're going to. So I'm like, I like this. But it's like, I should have been like, watch Batman. I'm like, there's no way the Joker is getting redeemed. Like part three, you know, like, like, I just, I just like, Oh, yeah, that sounds great. You know, redeem me. Yeah. What season four? So like, I fell for that. Just con which.
You know, that's a problem when you're 23 and you do think you're smarter than everybody, which I obviously was not, that I just got, you know, I thought I was in with everybody and I'm working with this producer that I already made this show with, but it was like, oh no, they were sailing me off the waterfall, like Niagara.
And, you know, I didn't care because they're also blood money paying, you know, we're the highest paid people on television at this time. So I'm going, I had a million dollar suit collection. I didn't even wear suits. And then I gave them all to my friend who was a real estate agent. Shout out Mikey P.
And, you know, so like, like, because I was like, what do you do with all this money? You buy a suit, say it was a ritual. No. Oh, no, no. Buy gold. That's what I would say. That's the one thing I did. I was smart at one time. I bought like all this gold. So I carried a backpack around with like half a million in gold coins. Just like, because you can't spend gold. You know, like it takes you. It would keep you in line. What about a business man?
We had a problem with business managers, let me tell you. They take your money? Not only do they take, they take 5% of all the money you spend because they have to like do the math for it. Oh, so be careful with a business manager because they love you spending money. That's their favorite. Who filled with your friend? You're like, I can't spend this. Yeah, I should have bought more of it. Right, right, right. Okay, Spencer, you created the concept. I am now convinced. I look back and I'm like, there was simple life. There was like newlyweds with Jessica Simpson and Nicholas Shea, like early, early days, but you,
created the reality show villain. Oh, I'll take that 1,000 percent. Right? You really, yes. Give me my one credit. Yes. I'm going to have that to my Wikipedia.
the originator of the reality. And it was fun until you realize like there's no getting out. So as I look back, they were frank inviting is what I learned later is where they're just taking audio and putting it there and putting you at an event you're not at saying you do this. Like I was just watching this episode where Lauren comes in like that Heidi stood her up and there's a note from Heidi. Anyone that knows Heidi
Her handwriting looks like Egyptian hieroglyphs. Like, she doesn't know what she's writing. I don't know if she can even write. And so this cute little note, like, sorry, Laura LCE, like, I can't hang out, like, went to the movie's essential. I love you, like, perfect calligraphy. Like, how you never wrote that note? They never told her she was standing up. LCE, it's like these simple things, like, murky wow. And Lauren's playing her long. She knows how you didn't write that note. And coming in, like,
Heidi? Heidi? No, like, you were just in your apartment. They just miked you up. Like, good for you. Like, freaking Blake Lively over there. So, let me explain to you what I'm thinking.
I've sat down with reality people now and sitting down with you who was like the originator of the villain. I want to expose how easily the edit process is. That reality TV uses to make something look like a conversation happened and it really was a complete different conversation that happened. Do you know what I mean? So who is someone that you really dislike? Like someone that pisses you off and can get you like riled up.
You can be Adam DeVillo. Okay. I'm Adam DeVillo. Okay. And I'm going to, we're in a fight. We're in a fight right now. I'm Adam, your sponsor. And I'm talking so much shit to you. This is what's going to happen is the point is is,
I'm gonna, it's like I'm a producer, being like, you're pissed at Adam, what would you say to Adam, and it's like, fuck you, and then you walk out of the interview. What I'm gonna do is, at the beginning of this episode, it's gonna be a cold open, and I'm gonna dub in a different question of me being like, Spencer, you're irrelevant, how do you feel, and you're gonna be looking at me, when really everyone right now will see what that original thing was. I'm talking about Adam DeVillo, but we're gonna cut it and make it look like you were shitting on me, and you walk out of a color daddy interview.
Oh my gosh. It's so scary. Well, give me a few minutes. Tell you how I'm envisioning it. No, I see the vision, but I'm just trying to think about what I would actually say that could come off believable. Like fuck you. You're fucking predatory person. Oh, that's pretty good. Oh my god. That's better than anything we had. That's way stronger than a fuck you. Do you have a note out of what you want to say out of the pillow?
Oh, yeah, I do. You need to drink some of your flat champagne. We're going to need to get, we can do it twice. We just want to get the best, and again, what is happening right here is going to go in the episode just so you know. You're not getting fucked over. We're going to show this pro. As long as this goes on Spotify, I don't hear a white show. Power of edit, baby. I liked that first line you said. Yes, but it's not dramatic enough.
Right. Because I mean, you are a predatory person. I can't even take it seriously. Okay. Here we go. I think it would be dramatic if you get up and walk. I'm gonna definitely. Okay, you're practicing. You're practicing. Oh, yeah.
That was good. Spencer! Spencer!
I agree. I agree. No, I think that was pretty good because you said fuck you fuck this I'm gonna do one more and I'm gonna keep all this in of like guys This is this is I'm like poking him. I'm Adam develop. I'm like you are so that's the thing you wouldn't even that's what's so crazy about reality Adam develop wouldn't be here They send these but they call like for the hills was called the she was called the collector
That's how shady this shit is to collect the fucking- And she would just get shit out of you? No, she would come and like, she fake jerked off and busted a nut on my face. Like, and it worked and I like went nuts. Okay, so let's like channel that annoyance. Who do I dislike?
Hi, honey. Who do I really dislike that I could channel? Just lots of anger for a fake scene here. I feel like I don't talk to enough people to hate anybody anymore. Oh, thank you, honey. I knew you would know. Love you, honey. Bye. You're welcome here. I'll put you on the mic.
PratDaddy.com. PratDaddy.com. Love you guys. Extreme, superficial. Oh, lots of people did, but one I have to see. Pretend I'm him. You're a fucking loser. This is the biggest fucking waste of time. I can't even believe Spotify gave you a fucking show.
I bet this doesn't even last another fucking year. Why don't you just delete this whole fucking episode? Good luck with your little imaginary boyfriend you never shown fucking IG straight. What I've learned is like
The more exaggerated the faker looks now because now everyone is so exaggerated on all these shows. So you got to like well in post edit and that's beauty again I'll share with everyone watching is like we'll look back and see which one looks more real maybe the first one looks more real because it was less try I may even you know the Holy Spirit I may give you a third just out of nowhere so you know third
You know, you have to do these 12 times. That's like that video I sent you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I rewatched it like this, supposedly where I'm bullying Heidi into like moving in with me to like, I would never move into Kirsten Avenue. Like, I'm not bullying anyone to like live across from fucking Boa or Boca. I don't even like a liquor store. Like, so no, I was not. But this big scene, this was when
It was a wrap for me was when I she's like I don't think I want to move in with you like doing her Meryl Streep level and I'm like then get at my answers get out of my car We did that at least 12 times. They're like floor the car more and they shooting the exhaust pipes She gets in the car right after we go to Don Antonio's like that's just a night, but like
Boom, and here's how I'm even crazier. The song that they, like, put to it, like, apologize. I gave them the one Republic song. It was like, this would be so good, because Heidi was, like, in talks to do a song with Ryan Teder, and he, like, played me that. I'm like, I'll get this on the hill. So then I even gave them the murder song. As we're kind of...
We're not wrapping up. No, we're not. We're not. No, no, no, we're not. I'm not leaving. Thank you for playing along. That was a great promo. Is there a specific manufactured storyline you regret saying yes to? Yeah, this sex tape. I didn't think people like big deal. I thought it was like clout too. Like Kim just made
So much off of hers. It wasn't a negative. There was no tape even ended up coming out. So like, I thought that that's why I played a long call to fake producer. That wasn't on a phone with LC. It was me pretending to apologize something I didn't do to a producer like, yeah. To your knowledge, did Adam de Villa ever abuse his power when producing the show and in what ways?
You know, here's what's so funny. Like I was ready to go all in and on out until, but I'm a mercenary. If they call me right now to be on selling sunset and I hate him more than anyone, it'll be like, what's my fee? You know, like, so you can't even ask somebody who's like a mercenary about people because like I should have known his last name is devil with an, oh, like that's not a coincidence. And think here's the other thing that I now have the benefit of perspective with.
Yeah, like we've now been on two seasons of celebrity big brother. We are locked up You know 50 plus days a producer we did I'm a celebrity get me out of here marriage boot camp wife swap Famous food like the list of shows of dealing with producers not to mention all these pilots Yeah, shoot and like there's nobody like that guy so Here's the problem with people like Adam and how they'll always win mm-hmm
they're male, and he brings in his enablers, and they're all like guarded. You know, I'm not saying this is like, they'll always win because there's then me, the mercenary, because I know this is a demonic demon, and I was like, put me on Netflix. So all these people around Christine, they're not gonna back her because they don't wanna rock the shit. They don't wanna, you know, they don't want selling sunset to end. So that's how me too, and these people are enabled because the people around them,
Are like ain't happening to me like you because I'm one of his like I'm sure the way he treated Whitney and LC and I was God knows how they probably love him because when Things did come out in Heidi's store or whatever guess who's the first one to be like he's the best guy ever Maybe to you, but that's not the truth like that's your like you can't defend
you know so totally and I think it's fucked up because like you're saying these men in these position of power insulate themselves with all these other men that are going to make him like almost impenetrable to any type of
any type of
you need this person that's in a position of power and fucked up, but you need to make a living, you need money, you're kind of at the hands of their power. And so I hear what you're saying, you're like, I would take the Netflix show, because that's what your career is, but you're not saying he's a good guy. I wanna, cause I've never talked about this to my listeners. So when Heidi was on Call Her Daddy last year, she brought up an incident where the producer from the hills was physical with her.
After filming that episode, the MTV rep that rept Heidi called my team and said, you need to take that out of the episode or you can't air it. I don't even know if Heidi knows this. She definitely does not. Okay. Shout out Joya and Jay and, uh, who else? I love you. I don't even know. So we get this call. That's so shady because it's like they protect the net. Like I love MTV, but it's like, that's Adam. She didn't say MTV. You can't, like,
So my team gets this call and daddy gang listening like you can go back and that interview I they said you have to take that part out or you can't air the episode I thought it was coming from Heidi and I'm like who am I to put someone's like abuse story out there if they don't want it out so I took it out of the episode fast forward
A few weeks ago, Christine quinses down with me, and she talks about how Adam DeVillo is the new producer who is the original producer of The Hills, and she mentions Heidi's name in the interview saying we both had really bad experiences with these producers. Immediately, I message Heidi. I go right to Heidi, because I'm like, I don't want to put your name in the episode. If you're not comfortable with it, I know Christine doesn't want to speak for you. I'd want to make sure you're good with it. And Heidi was like, absolutely put it in there. It's the truth.
to which I then realized, oh my God, last year, I fully got played. I was like, last year, that was not Haiti not wanting to put that in. But now that you're done with the hills, can you explain what the fuck happened with that whole situation? Again, I wasn't there. I was never allowed to be. That's why that's why these predators type people like that. People didn't want the smoke. They won't have like,
I never interacted with Adam ever once he knew my level, you know, like you don't play like I don't play so I never got to interact with Adam because it would have been on so I was banned from the shoot the photo shoot that this happened So what I did was sent shout out Kevin Carlson her bodyguard To go in my place because I you know I'm like I'm not I'm not allowed to go to her photo shoot so yeah from
again, you would need Heidi here, but from my, what I recall is she had one of those loose fitting, you know, I guess there was also a comment about her new boobs, you know, like, you know, because she just had nobody had seen that, whatever. And she had one of those backs that like her open back where it's like pretty much
Like in the right angles like butt cheek, you know, like of a dress and I guess he like put his hand Like ash cheek route and the security is the point where he like chopped her his hand off and was like checked him, you know, shout out Kevin Gangster, but he was there this happened. So we had a witness we like he was you know
It makes me really sad for Heidi that it took years, like everyone is believing Christine Quinn right now. Oh, literally when this came out, again, I didn't watch something, because I hate this person so much. I don't care how good the show is, Adam, right? But when I saw this, I was like, this is an angel from heaven just came out and then she's in this outfit. I'm like, she is out of the, this is the Matrix. This is literally Trinity coming to like,
and it took what 12 years like you can go back on Google and she was like this is not appropriate like you can't like she felt the point where she called me and I was like what did I so I called I left some psycho message you know like I hope he still has it I hope you know here's how weird life is
And so when I went back to college to finally graduate in 2013, I'm in a Staples on Olympic and I go because I drink lots of water and fluids. I go to go pee in the staples. And, you know, I'm not a, like, I like to go in the stalls pee. I feel more protected, you know. So I open the stall door. Guess whose face I look at.
Adam. Adam de Villo. I haven't seen this person since 2000, maybe the first night of Hills filming. I've never even seen him since then open and he looks like I'm there to murder him, you know, because this is like some random staples in the men's room.
in the stall, he's coming out and he's like, and it took me, I didn't like process, like, who is like, why is this freaking out? So out of contact. Yeah, like, what's happening? I just want to pee, like, you're blocking the urinal here, like, toilet, get out of the way. And he's like, Spencer, what are you doing here? I'm like, Adam, like, what are you doing? He's like, I'm going to the bathroom, like, I'm going to the bathroom, like, why are you in Staples? I'm like, buying books for college. Why are you here? And he's like, because I worked down the street and this is the better bathroom. I'm like,
So, you know, to this day, I think he doesn't believe I was buying staples and it was like, I can touch you if I can get you anywhere type. Like, just know anytime you're going to the bathroom, I could open the stall door and be there. Like, that's how I think God wanted me to have that last, like, don't ever feel too cozy on that toilet because that door could open and it could be me.
So you know like it was a weird moment, but it's like I didn't have It had been three years. I was back in college I didn't I hadn't been I'm now back in the game trying to be famous again So I'm mad again, but then I didn't like really care But he couldn't accept it like and I was so chill and I was like, oh, what are you up to like and he was like, what are you and then Heidi comes like? Why are you here? She's like I'm like it was just such a good he couldn't
He did not believe it could have been a coincidence. He's like, you are here to kill me. One is stalking me. Trillion percent. Here's the weirdest part. So years before this, just to show you how demonic this project with the hills was, we go out for a pitch with one of these evil producers. Because again, we're mercenaries and he's like, hey, I want to pitch you to lifetime.
Okay, like his right hand guy. So we go this pitch and we're sitting there and he's like, it's amazing. We can all tell him this lifetime executive that we can all sit here. I mean, at one time we were trying to steal Heidi's soul. And like Heidi just starts hysterically crying in real life because she's like so triggered by like knowing that like she felt that. And it's like the pitch went so sad. I was like stealing her soul. Like what? We add him to the low side. No, no, his right hand man.
His is literally said at one point we were trying to steal. He sold now. Look where we are. Like and we can all be together and like pitch. And Heidi's like, that's why I felt that way for so many years. You fucking psychos. Okay. What is the wildest thing you've done to make a headline? Tell us. Oh, I mean, any headline that you ever saw, I was behind. And so it's like, I actually think to my mom, she's like, I have a
the biggest thing you've ever seen in your life of every cover, tabloid, everything I've ever been in. And the other day I pulled it out just to like, cause I was gonna do TikToks on them. It was like, everyone was the most crazy stories. I'm like, made that up, made that up, made that up. One time we made our entire house look like we were squatters. They're not squatters, like what are those people that like fill up a house with stuff? Hoarders. Hoarders, we fill it up with hoarders.
And like, you know, like just made it like piled up and like got in touch magazine cover like Heidi and Spencer are in squalor in touch cover. I think that 25 K shot Dan Wakeford. Yeah, like so I mean.
Like that's like a petty one, but like everything you get everything of. We once did a deal for like a half a million just for four covers of Us Weekly. There's no, we didn't know what the covers were. It's like, let's make stuff up, you know? So I'd have to go through it, but like the weirdest thing that I didn't have to do with that I saw headline recently that
Heidi called me the article said Heidi called me like chicken legs or something and the Spencer was gonna get calf implants I'm like calf implants like even if I had I do a big cap, but like I wouldn't like that's the level calf I was like so I have so many of them
That is, you know what, that's really cool that you have those like mementos. Oh, I want to frame them all. And Heidi's like, there's, they're not going on the wall. I'm like, this is art, honey. This is art. We'll put them next to our portraits in our homes of ourselves. We do have every cover frame. I think you guys do that. But I want, like I want spreads frame. Like six pages is every one of these are, there's a lot of BS that we had to make up.
I should be creative writing, because you be on and you just be, you know, I don't think people give you enough credit. I always complain about that. That's one of my, I'm chasing credit. I'm going to give it to you right now. Like, you went to USC, the whole back story, I'm happy you told us at the Princess Malibu, like,
Knowing you went to Brazil, you were shooting. I will let you watch that. You can watch. I will let you. And then I'll tell you what I think. No, I know. You're gonna be like, you can win an Oscar. It's insane. It's the work of art. Okay, Spencer, what are you insecure about? Not getting credit. For my level of energy I put into success,
I don't get treated with any credibility. So that's an insecurity in the sense that I've worked since 2004, nonstop on reality TV fame.
And people are just like, oh, I hate a guy from the hills. That took work. That was working. That's a job. So that's definitely an insecurity. And thankfully being a dad
created my new focus on just being like the best dad. So it's like, it's less selfish. So no matter what, like I've now transitioned, like I'm kind of like a rap, you know, like whatever happens with my career and like titles like now I've already moved on to like let me build.
the best superstar child and great human. So that has been a great energy shift. I wish it's a hard balance because I learned so many lessons, but should I have had a kid sooner? Did I need to go through everything to be ready to be a parent? But insecurities. I know, I think that's a great answer. Do you think being a dad has changed you a lot?
It made me now thirsty again because I'm like, you know, like, let's get success. And I've like, people are like, why are you still trying to be famous? Like, that is where I am at. Like, I'm not going to go be a banker now. I can't go be Camilla and be a lawyer. Like, even though Kim is being a lawyer, like, I don't have that time for the baby bar. So like, I am going to be a television star again. I'm going to get a show. I'm going to produce, like,
That's why I'm now back in the game. I think producing for you. Oh, no, it's going down. Yeah. The slate is strong. So that's the only reason why, when he went this again, it's like, because now it's time. I was living in Santa Barbara at my parents' beach house. I was done. But now, because I could live like that, would just hide any tacos and be chill. But I want to give my son and future family members, because I doesn't want to stop at one. So I want to build
you know solid you know because I grew up with amazing life yeah it's too late to be a dentist Spencer Pratt I just want to look to the camera and thank the daddy gang oh my god for all the daddy gang promo code daddy and you get 20% off pred daddy crystals
You know, I usually go to 15, but since it's Daddy Gay and I'm Pratt Daddy, that is funny. I was Pratt Daddy before you were, you know, you had a hijack with Daddy Gang, but I was like, and I used to literally claim as Snapchat a year as Pratt Daddy, I'd be like, gang gang, we out here gang gang. I was like, I know you didn't, I know you're too young. You can't hijack something you didn't know existed. No, energetically. Honestly, thank you so much for coming on. I'm not ending. I'm going to turn the camera.
This is the real way to show it. Thank you so much. Gotta go. Good bye. Spotify. Spotify live after room. I'm gonna like be live after her show and doing my own live room. Goodbye Spencer. Thank you so much for coming on Call of Duty. I really do appreciate it. I'm not gonna stand up. Dude, you're great. That was great.
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