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Saturday, 25th, January 2025: Son Vivienne, Trans Gender Victoria. New ruling In case of Giggle vs Tickle, Midsumma Ruling

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January 29, 2025

TLDR: Macca and Paul interview Son Vivienne about a new ruling on the case of Giggle vs Tickle regarding the app Giggle for Girls developed by Grover.

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In this engaging episode of Saturday Magazine, hosts Macca and Paul speak with Son Vivienne, the CEO of Transgender Victoria. They dive deep into significant themes surrounding LGBTQIA+ rights, community safety, and the implications of the recent ruling in the highly publicized case of Giggle vs. Tickle.

Key Discussion Topics

Current Landscape of Pride March

As the Pride March approaches, there's a brewing tension regarding police participation:

  • Victoria Police's Involvement: This year, the Victoria Police will not be marching in uniform, highlighting the increasing concerns from the LGBTQIA+ community.
  • Diverse Perspectives: The episode sheds light on the varied reactions from the transgender community regarding the police’s role. While some feel safer without them, others express significant apprehension about potential encounters with law enforcement.
  • Consultative Conversations: Son emphasizes the importance of engaging multiple stakeholders, including community members and various committees, to shape the decision on participating in Pride March.

Giggle vs. Tickle Case

The episode delves into the implications of the recent ruling in the Giggle vs. Tickle case and its importance:

  • Giggle for Girls App: This application was designed with young girls in mind, created by Grover, yet has faced scrutiny which highlights larger societal issues surrounding children and gender identity.
  • Broader Impact on the LGBTQIA+ Community: The Giggle vs. Tickle case illustrates the ongoing debates about inclusivity and representation in digital spaces designed for youth.

Relationship Between Police and the LGBTQIA+ Community

A significant part of the discussion revolved around improving relations between the police and the LGBTQIA+ community:

  • Trust and Safety: Many in the transgender community hesitate to contact emergency services due to fears of mistreatment. This distrust underscores the need for immediate reform within law enforcement.
  • Educational Initiatives: Son advocates for better training and ongoing education for police to help them engage effectively with the LGBTQIA+ community, especially trans individuals.
  • Engagement in Conversations: Highlighting previous engagements with police reference groups, Son calls for a more substantial commitment and transparency about the changes needed to foster trust.

Actionable Takeaways

The conversation brings forth several actionable insights for improving community-police relations:

  • Enhanced Communication: Establishing clear timelines and expectations for systemic changes within law enforcement agencies.
  • Interactive Training: Moving beyond superficial training, Son emphasizes the need for comprehensive, ongoing education for police officers about LGBTQIA+ issues, led by voices from the community.
  • Representation in Policy Changes: Ensuring that policy changes reflect the sentiments and needs of diverse community members, particularly in discussions surrounding safety and inclusion.

Conclusion

The episode wraps up on a hopeful note, acknowledging the progress made in the last 15 years regarding trans visibility and participation in events like Pride March. However, it emphasizes that there is still much work to be done to ensure safety, respect, and dignity for all individuals in the LGBTQIA+ community.

Final Thoughts

Listening to Son Vivienne provides valuable insights into the ongoing struggles and aspirations of the transgender community in Victoria. By fostering a continually open dialogue between community advocates and law enforcement, they aim to create a safer and more inclusive environment for all.

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