S4 Ep 5: Photo Shoots & Amazing Nurses
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January 30, 2025
TLDR: Podcast is hosting a public vote for new artwork, discusses topic of degrading vs digressing, Andy Peters and Nando's connection, financial investments, Rom's foot problems, Geoff Norcott curry night, appreciation for nurses, fake owl decoy statue question, advice on transatlantic relationships.

In the fifth episode of Season 4 of the Wolf and Owl Podcast, hosts Tom and Romish dive into an entertaining mix of topics, highlighted by the podcast's recent photo shoot and a heartfelt appreciation for nurses. Here’s a breakdown of the episode's core discussions, key insights, and amusing anecdotes.
Exciting Podcast Developments
- New Podcast Artwork: The episode kicks off with thrilling news about a recent photo shoot for new podcast artwork. Fans will soon be invited to vote on their favorite picture, emphasizing engagement with listeners.
- Rebranding Ideas: The hosts humorously discuss potential rebranding of the podcast, including discussing how names have been taken into account by listeners, who pointed out that their names are not reflected in the podcast’s title.
Humor and Life Reflections
- Degrading vs Digressing: An amusing debate arises regarding the terms 'degrading' and 'digressing,' providing comedic insight into their conversational style.
- Personal Updates: Listeners get updates on Rom’s persistent foot troubles, with a touch of humor about past occurrences regarding injuries, and insights continue with light-hearted anecdotes from their lives.
Culinary Adventures
- Curry Night with Geoff Norcott: Romish recounts a delightful curry night with fellow comedian Geoff Norcott, highlighting laughter and good food as therapeutic remedies.
- Food Overindulgence: The hosts share personal experiences about enjoying meals too much, leading to feelings of regret and comedic discomfort. This segues into discussions around the fine balance of culinary joy and overindulgence.
The Incredible Work of Nurses
- Nedicare Celebration: A heartfelt discussion emerges about the incredible work nurses do, sparked by Tom's recent experience with his daughter in the hospital. He recounts the compassion he witnessed and how emotional it was for him to see healthcare professionals in action.
- Emotional Stories: Both hosts share touching narratives about their experiences in hospitals, illustrating the essential support nurses provide during stressful times. They express immense gratitude towards these professionals who manage challenging situations with grace and efficiency.
Financial Wisdom and Investments
- Investment Strategies Discussion: The conversation takes a serious turn as they briefly discuss how to approach financial investments, particularly in times of economic downturn. Insights about making informed choices in investing are shared, reflecting the show's balance between lighthearted banter and serious advice.
- Humor in Seriousness: Even while discussing finances, the comedic undertones persist, providing a relatable touch to potentially dry subjects.
Relationship Advice Segment
- Transatlantic Relationship Query: Listeners ask for advice on navigating relationships across continents. Tom and Romish provide valuable insights about communication and honesty in relationships, especially when facing major life changes.
- Podcast Listener Interaction: This segment shows how connected the hosts feel to their fans, addressing specific questions and offering guidance based on their personal experiences.
Key Takeaways
- Importance of Community Engagement: The hosts genuinely express their appreciation for their listeners, involving them in decision-making about the podcast's branding.
- Celebrating Everyday Heroes: Highlighting nurses and their invaluable work illustrates the emotional depth they can touch upon, balancing humor and seriousness.
- Navigating Life Changes: The relationship advice segment showcases the importance of open communication in maintaining healthy relationships, especially during challenging transitions.
Conclusion
Episode 5 of Season 4 of the Wolf and Owl Podcast combines humor, heartfelt tales, and practical advice, making it a must-listen for fans seeking both entertainment and insight. The hosts’ chemistry and their ability to transition from comedy to meaningful discussions resonate deeply with their audience, fostering a sense of community and shared experience.
Listeners are encouraged to engage with the hosts, participate in the upcoming artwork vote, and reflect on the touching appreciation for those who care for us in our most vulnerable moments.
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Hello, and let's start off with, well, welcome to the Wolf on our first of all, the fun old podcast where two friends just sit together, have a little chat and then record it for your deletation. We've got to call this Wolf on our, the Chow down.
Yeah, it's a great shout, yeah. Speaking of what we could have called it, we are rebranding. Yes. And I don't know what you guys think of this. We are going to be called the Coyote and the Hawk. No, no. In all seriousness, some, a few people who are in email into the podcast and saying, it says, well, for now, but you've not included your names in it. And that seems mad. So we've done a little, we did a, I mean, it feels so mad to say this.
because it feels so over the top for what we do, but we've done a photo shoot. We did a photo shoot, but also, yeah, I thought it'd be quite cool to fill up film to the behind the scenes content. That's also coming. That was quite a laugh on it. Yeah, the behind the scenes content was a laugh. Yeah, I wouldn't say it merited announcement. Yeah. I would say that's something that you just you sort of just put away, but just leave it on there.
I don't think you give it any thumbs up. The only other thing I think it's because I think what we've got is a really nice group now of people who listen to this but there's a lot of people who don't realise I get asked at least two or three times a week I should have been told I should do a podcast and then I decided to do one with probably the nation's best known comedians.
No, that's not true. But what I would say is we have hit the sweet spot of a lot of people not knowing that we do a podcast and the people that started listening from the beginning starting to get fed up with it and moving on.
So it's a real... We've got to keep that flow going, guys. We're losing people as they start to realise, I know the quality isn't going to improve. This is... They have peaks. And if anything, they're starting to degrade because they keep repeating themselves. They degrade or digress?
Digress is, let's not talk about your, your minute, your every minute hobby of digressing from the topic. Degrade is when something sort of drops in quality. Is it, you know, yeah. I suppose it is, yeah, like a body degrades. It's not, there's no supposed, no supposed. A body decomposes, though, doesn't degrade, does it? I was thinking, yeah. But I didn't say about it. I didn't say about it. I'm just saying it. Yeah. No, I'm just saying, but if you, yeah.
If something, the quality of it gets less, that's why it's your body when you die. Yeah, but I wouldn't say. I think it would be weird to say the podcast is decomposing. Do you think that makes more sense? I'm sure someone somewhere said it. If you scroll through enough of the reviews, you'll see somebody. There are still one review on, I think, you know, because on Spotify now, you can make comments on each of the episode. One of the comments referred to this podcast, this doctor,
Doctor. Oh, Anna. It's not bad. When you got a toddler in the house, that doctor is, yeah. Oh, no, just trying to doctor. That's kind of good. Yeah. I mean, I said, if you've got a toddler in the house and a dog is also leaving its dirt in the house, there's bigger issues and what word you use. But yes, you make a good point. Anyway, so we did a photo shoot. We've actually decided, I don't know what form this is going to take.
but we are going to shortlist what three, three or four pictures. Three to five, yeah, three to five, I think. Yeah. And so we're not just saying this, this sounds like a bit of an interesting to say. If you're listening to this, we love you. Unless you're listening to it in order to leave a shitty review. But if you're listening to this, we genuinely love you. And so we wanted to give you some ownership of what picture we use. So we're putting up
for a vote. We've decided to trust democracy, because as we know, democracy hasn't gone wrong in the past at all. So it always ends up with the best outcome. So we're putting the photos out there and then you guys can vote. And whichever one wins,
we will choose that photo to be the new thumbnail. It's very exciting. It's very exciting. If we could have hired NDP as to do this segment, I mean, obviously cost a fortune to have done. By all accounts, one of the best blokes in the world is what I've heard. Also, I've, I mean, allegedly, he's quite big in this sort of Nando's world as well. I think he's got like sort of, I had room and she's got shares that he's one of those sort of like, you know, people working like the Illuminati of Nando's.
He saw what he invested, but allegedly invested quite a lot early on. And now it's sort of like, yeah, he's like a sort of money millionaire because of the successes. All right. I do think for once on his pocket, I need to source check. So where have you got this from?
I heard it like, I think I'm one entertainment show and I'm one set. It was a chat gossip around the sort of, you know. It was like, so it was open, he said it wasn't like someone pulled me aside and went, hey mate, come over here, you know, and he beat us. I was like, what, this morning guy? Yeah, he's one of the biggest vessels in Nando's. It was more like, oh, fucking Eddie Peters is doing all right. He's one of the investors in Nando's.
All right. Yeah, well, I mean, look, did you Google it? Did you look into it so many further than once? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Why would you? That takes, what, 10, 15 seconds? Should I Google it now? No, I think just say it on the podcast and just further the rumor without any verification. I think that's... That is how all good journalism works, really.
Can I make an apology while Tom Googles that? First of all, for the podcast being a daylight, Tom had laptop issues. Secondly, I've upset a lot of people in the previous episode. I've had messages saying that I was too soft on snoop for his performance at the Trump inauguration. Look, I'm going to say this, and it's difficult to say this, bearing in mind I'm wearing a death row records cap. So it does look like I'm a bit of a snoop apologist.
I was trying to use Snoop as an example of somebody taking a previous position that you had and using that to be you with in an idea that you don't change your mind on things. Actually, I used the wrong example because obviously the whole Trump thing, whatever your politics are, it is slightly frightening. I know a lot of people have been debating whether
Elon Musk was doing a Nazi salute or not. Whether or not he was, the fact that we're debating whether he is doing one or not is a damning indictment of what's going on. A bit worried about social media, a bit worried about what's going to happen going forward. And so for Snoop to then perform at the inauguration, and also then if you saw any footage of his performance,
It was, bearing in mind that Snoop Dogg is, you know, one of the hip hop's greats, sort of seeing him performing to a black tie do, sort of with some decks and kind of wrapping over his tunes. And then kind of, I mean, it's very much the video that I saw very much was designed for the caption, the crowd goes mild.
The response was so rank, actually. It was just bad. The whole party was... And also, Nellie's getting some shit as well, because he performed something for the inauguration, so he's getting a bit of hate for that. And the other person that's getting a bit of hate, not because people were surprised by his politics. By the way, if you look at any of Snoop on Nellie's Instagram posts,
So many people have disowned them. They're just like, I'll never listen to anything you do again. I mean, the backlash has been real. But the other one, which I found actually massively heartbreaking, oh God, that's so, that feels like I've done a pun now, but it is Billy Ray Cyrus. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, his performance. I mean, his voice is, I don't know, I don't know what happened. I don't know what's gone on there. What are the, it's difficult because look,
In black and white the performance was horrendous. He was sort of blaming the guitar or the sound not working or whatever. Do you think he was like doing it is sort of like an insider trying to spoil the party? No, I don't. Like a clown he turns up at and the kid's party but doesn't like the dad because like the dad came up in the car park.
So he sort of like turns up and he's like, Oh, I forgot all my balloons. And like, you know, I want to get big shoes. I left them in the car. I got to get them. It's bloody clown. It's like he's got a saying against us. Yeah. I can't say much detail in that story. It honestly begs the question, did you used to work as a children's entertainer?
So anyway, on the face of it, the performance is terrible, but the thing is, is the way that he was behaving suggests that there's something a bit, you know, he's going for it, so I'm kind of loathe to... I tell you, someone who is taking a little bit, and obviously going through some good stuff, is it looks to me, just looking at some stuff I've read online, that Eddie Peters could be one of the investors in Nando. Is that right? That's good fun. He was the person who dropped the news, that the member used to get their little cards where he stamped the chickens on.
Yeah, they would be doing that anymore. No, no, no, no. It went electric and Andy Peters was the person who dropped that news. Sunday brunch, apparently, there was a whole thing that he could be one of the owners of Nando. So yeah, there's this, I'd say I'm 75 to 80 percent sure Andy Peters has got a hand in Nando's.
OK, well, in that case, congratulations. And what I've done to him for that matter is a good investment. You know what? I actually think Andy Peter should go on track in Stanny. He'd be great on there if he's invested in Nando's. And saw that coming. Yeah. You know when you read these stories about people that got in early on something? I met somebody like the other day who, like, oh, hello, look, look at this. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Yeah. It'll break for some of the guy. Oh, my God. Been a manager of shake.
Talking about getting in on an early mate, you have a bad day of shaking and early people. That was horrible to watch.
You've gone, and by the way, this isn't outside the realms of possibility that you've gone cat. I'm about to go and do the podcast. Can you do me a favor? Romish is going to have a go at me if I promote my protein enterprise. So can you just supposedly spontaneously bring in a manual shape? I will say that my levels of idiocy has many waves.
And to start a protein brand in what is a global recession has proved to be one of the more idiotic things, the more stupid moves in the universe. I don't mean to do it. Genuinely, I think whenever I think of you, like every time we do the podcast, I think, why isn't this guy got into the fitness world? I mean, it feels like I sort of think about the lineage.
of select like I could be the new goddess influences. Can I say the truth of why I did it? It was trying to try, no, no, but it was trying to get something that is actually true from yeah, go on. It was trying to be anti that whole world of like the fact of these jocks and guys with six packs having protein and supplements and actually
I'm never going to be there. I just wanted to do something. It was a bit silly, a bit fun, but just trying to make sure most people have protein and that being the message. I know if it's come across, I've got no idea. I should have probably done a marketing degree. No, no, no. I think that's the right thing, because I do actually look or piss taking aside. I do think that is a good thing. Because you're constantly... What I like about what you've done, if I can just say this,
is, and because you're doing it with Stan aren't you? So it's you and Stan that are running it. And Stan's actually, if you follow Stan on Instagram, he's quite a, he's quite a no, well I like about his quite a no nonsense, just kind of this is fitness for the average person. That's his whole approach. And I think that's what you're trying to do with this.
But it's quite good that what I like about it is, and I'm not gonna name any names, but there's lots of fitness products or stuff on social media where they're constantly trying to go, does your body look like this? You need it to look like this and all this sort of shit, and this is how you do it and all that, and you're not doing that, and I think that's good. But yeah, I've got no involvement in the company, and I've got no stakes in this, and if anything, it's ongoing. If it was to be ridiculed, that would be, it would provide material for the podcast,
but I'm just saying, in all seriousness, I think it's good. Yeah, it's probably, yeah, I'm gonna take that and we will put it on the next wave of stock as a quote from you. Okay, of course. But I'll back it back to old AP, Andy Peters, man. That's impressed me with Andy Peters. Oh yeah, but I was gonna say, so I was chatting to this guy, so this is what I was saying before, before Catherine did that advert. He was basically saying to me,
I said to him, he made loads of money and then walked away from it all. And then I said to him, how did you make your money? And he said I got in early on Apple.
Can I just say Apple? How do you do that? Jeff Bezos, who got in early on Google, and obviously part of it is you've got to be connected. But when Jeff Bezos got, apparently when he invested in Google, it was just like this little startup thing. I can't imagine he realized it was going to be this massive as massive as it is. But I'd love to know, and not because I want to invest, I'm just out of sheer interest.
How the hell do you decide what to put money in and what not to put money into it? But also a lot of money and things like to see return. So I'm slightly obsessed with people who like, I've got mates who put the fortunes into Bitcoin. Yeah. Not fortunes. I mean like, like, like, don't they put fortunes back in the day and know they're about to reap massive. No, I don't know. I've not met one guy.
who's made fortunes or anyone from them. I'm saying one guy because the people I'm talking about are mostly my male friends who've invested in Bitcoin. I've got two mates who invested in Bitcoin and then spent the money that they thought they were going to get back in 10 years before they got the money back because I was so sure of what Bitcoin would do.
Yeah, not in a great place, but I've got one friend who's really, really sound with that investment thing, but he keeps himself very, very close to his chest. He keeps himself close to his chest.
No, he keeps his deals, because he's one of those people who always doesn't really seem to do much, but he'll come down the pub and you'll be like chatting to him and you're like, oh, what's going on at the moment? He's like, oh, I've just sold my steaks and blah, blah, blah. And you're like, fuck, like, that's, I didn't know you invested in that. He's like, yeah, yeah, I got an early.
How do you get into a social climate where you meet people? I mean the saw them would feel like somewhere maybe. Maybe I'm spending more time in there. But somewhere where you're going to meet the people who turn around to you and go hey, by the way.
You seem a good guy. You need to get it early on this. Yeah, but what'll happen is, is in 15 years time you go, you'll be like, you're doing a podcast with somebody else. And they go, didn't you used to do this, or am I showing an item? And you went, yeah. And then you go, what happened to him? And he went all in on spangle. And it absolutely fucking died on its hope. That's what happened. That's what happened to me. Yeah, but why the fight did from investing gas from Geordie Shaw, social media outlet?
So anyway, listen, I was in the middle of an apology. I want to apologize to anybody that thought I was too soft on snow. I get it like Trump's frightening. And also the Wain Bridge thing and Cassie, you know, I mean the Wain Bridge thing. I thought we did deal with that. Well, let me be absolutely crystal clear, right? Some people thought I was too soft on Cassie. Some people thought I was too hard on Wain Bridge. I felt heartbreaking for Wain Bridge because like I don't know him like you know him.
What I do know of him is like a wonderful, lovely, lovely bloke. I've heard nothing bad about him at all. So it was horrible. That being a surprise to him and all of that being dredged up was rank. And it was a terrible choice by KSI to do that, like horrible.
Do you know what I mean? There's no getting away from that. And I don't want to get into it again. Am I experiencing some regret? Yes, because let's be absolutely honest. Just before we jumped on the podcast, you and I had a little text conversation and I was like, oh, this has happened in the last week. We could like maybe this is the first time we've ever done it. And it fucking blew up in my face horrendously. I've met every single thing that I weighed in on. I managed to piss people off.
So, I think I'd rather just talk about how I've got a flat arse and I hate my body and sometimes when I do... And you've got an awful thing with your foot, that's right.
Oh, can I just take this opportunity about this awful thing with my foot, right? This is like, by the way, you're catching me. I don't know if you noticed, I've got quite a positive energy to me. Yeah, you have, yeah, it's nice. Because we hang out last night. Yeah, that's part of it. That's definitely part of it. But more immediately, I've just gone on a pain-free run before I did this podcast, right? Oh, wow. And the reason I've gone on a pain-free run is thanks to
the animal pack. People emailed in, messaged me, and like, the way these messages were sent, man, I don't want to get too, you know what I'm like, I don't like getting too sentimental. But I like it when you get sentimental. Well, the wording of these messages was like so caring. It wasn't like, I know we constantly like we, you and I talk about trolling all the time, right? And probably too much arguably, right? But
People would like sending messages going, I really feel bad that you're going through this, like try this, it really worked for me. Like really nice, nice messages. And I've taken on board some of that stuff, I bought some of the massage stuff, I bought some of the insoles and things like that, and did the stretches that people had sent me. But the point I'm trying to make is, thanks to this podcast,
I was able to. I was easing back into it gently, because I didn't want to overdo it. That's one of the things you're not supposed to do. So this morning I thought I'm going to push it a little bit. Not loads, but like, you know, just hit it. Yeah, I've got 7K. OK. Why do you have to go higher than I did? It's so upsetting. How do I? Just go in low. No, no, no. I did five and a half.
But I didn't feel any discomfort at all. And I'm not feeling any discomfort now. So are you going to hit another run up? Is this it now? You're in full training mode for the matter? I'm in. I'm in. And this is me now, back into training.
I'm not writing every day. I'm doing four times a week, but I'm doing it for teenage cancer trust. I haven't set up the link. I haven't publicized it yet. But basically, I'm just going to say it now. This is a bit of promotion. I apologize for that. But I'm hoping to raise enough money to pay
the wages of two staff on a teenage cancer unit ward for the year. That's kind of the target. So yeah, that's the aim. So I'm back in and it's thanks to you guys, because genuinely there was about a day or two where I thought I might have to pull out of this thing, man. Because if every time I run,
I'm aggravating it and making it worse. This is only going to get worse and worse and worse as I go. And I don't very positive. So thank you. And also thank you to Tom Davis and Jeff Norcott who joined me for a fantastic
One of those evenings that, well, I was about to say, you can't replicate. We're probably going to do it again in a month or so. But we went for a curry and the chat was flowing. We didn't get drunk, did we? In fact, you and I were not drinking. And I loved it. You might be realised that I can't remember the last time I actually did that. I went out with mates and just
But I genuinely, it's a pathetic thing to say, and just had a really nice time with your chat about life. It was a very, very nice evening. I thoroughly enjoyed it. And thank you for inviting me. Actually, I've been a lot of you invited me along. Thank you, man. Well, we were together anyway. You couldn't really get out of it.
I sort of noticed the thing, I was like, oh, what are you doing after this? I'm going to go and meet Jeff. No, don't say that's not what happened. I text you. I text you. No, you do. I just jump in the back of what you said about the teenage cancer chest, because I do think it's like, and what you're doing, which is an incredible, amazing thing.
And I'm always conscious of talking about sort of stuff that's a bit personal, but I do think I should talk about this because it's horrible, but also last week, and I need to say how amazing you were during all this, even though you're in an estate, you're texting, but Grace was rushing to hospital.
with breathing problems. Her oxygen dropped. It was like, I was in London, I was meeting and caffeine sort of got in touch and was very worried then I spoke to her. I rushed across London, she went to hospital, you know, the head of course, I had to go actually, you know, better now, you know, still, you know, things to worry about. But I need to say that the pediatric ward at the hospital we went to was, I'm like, I couldn't, I like,
It just like hit me, hit home just how the work that when you're on your kids ear and you're fucking this, like you feel so helpless and you just feel like you've got a loss of what today. There was a young male nurse called Mo there who I really, I don't know how I'm in
I don't think I can ever really thank you. He was just incredible. How he was with Grace, how he was with me and Catherine, how relaxed he was, how calm he was. He stayed a little bit longer to make sure we were right because we'd sort of built up in a time, a bit of trust. But he was just incredible. And everyone that we came into contact with,
I just found it really hard to see a lot of them 14, 16 hour shifts, realizing just how pushed the NHS is. But watching and seeing how they were with other children on the ward and other parents, you realize just
Yeah, my mum and my sister are both nurses, so it's not something, it's like a new weight. It was just, I was just emotionally, it was very touched and I can't really ever think. Because it was a horrible 24 hours, it was a horrible 48. I felt bad for you, because this similar thing happened to me with Alex, when he was little.
he'd had this cold that was going on for a while and at that time I wasn't really working very much like I'd left teaching and but comedy was going like at that time was going nowhere for me you know I wasn't like getting any gigs and stuff like that so I was at home and Lisa was the the breadwinner during that period because she was like she was going in and teaching and
So one day she was going off to work and said to me, I think we need to tell Alex to the doctors because he's not getting any better. So I was like, all right, so made an appointment, got into the doctors.
go in and the doctor says to me, I need to test his oxygen levels, right? And imagine this, Tom, imagine this, right? So I'm in there with him and we're really worried about him. He's just not been right at all. And that is horrifying. So we go in and the doctor goes, I'm going to check his oxygen levels.
He goes and checks the oxygen levels, and he comes back in. Imagine this, man. He goes, his oxygen levels are worryingly low. And he said, yeah, we had that, yeah. And then he goes, I think you need to take him to hospital. And I was like, oh shit, okay, I'll take him now. And he goes, no, as in, I've called an ambulance, it's on its way now. All right. So the ambulance pulls up. We jump in, I phone Lisa at school, I'm going to the hospital with Alex.
We're like, I'm trying not to freak out, but it feels horrible. We get there. You have to be kept in for two days. This is like, and they manage, and again, as you said, they were amazing and they have to deal with both the fact that there is an ill child and the parent is freaking out, which I was. But then what happened is they had to put like a,
Like, as after they've been looking after Alex for a while, they're like, we've got to put a cannula into his arm, right? And Lisa would come in at that point. And as they put it in, like they take us into a separate room to put this in, as they put it in, I start to pass it out. Oh, geez.
I couldn't do it. I couldn't do with seeing that being put in his arm. So Lisa's with Alex, then she sees me start to go funny. And then now she's like having to do with two people. They're just like in absolute fucking state. It was so bad. It's one of those things where I felt horrendous.
I had to bend over like put my hands on my knees and like get myself sorted out because it's so horrific and I don't know if it's like the emotion of it or whatever and you know you're just freaking out and like you know like whatever but for whatever reason I was not in a good good way and then afterwards I immediately felt like as soon as it had all been done and all that I immediately felt better and then just had to deal with the embarrassment of what had happened and where in a sense you don't
But in the moment, you're sort of going, I'm supposed to be taking care of this situation. And in the end, I had to be taking care of it. That's what I'm in about. They got that moat. I was just like, I felt like he was probably 25, 26. I felt a complete like.
Wow, you just like knowing he just felt so confident in the fact that he was helping and anything that she needed and checking it. And I was just like, you know, I mean, it was an awful, yeah, 72 hours, you know, for 48, you know, she didn't sleep because I was just conscious. I was just so worried that, you know what I mean? And she had these alarms going off because her oxygen was dry anyway.
One thing I want to say is that the moment we got into hospital waiting room and there were these little games that they could play. Grace ran over to play with a little boy who dropped some food on the floor that Grace decided to try and eat off a hospital floor and I was like, no, they're trying to sort of like, but so put them out and watch them out. What the fuck are you doing? And at the moment, it's very hard to control a kid who's got breathing problems.
to tell them when they're sprinting around and then winding themselves up, which is part of, I guess I'll pass it down to her. But yeah, so what you're doing there for the teenager is a pretty incredible thing, man. It's what they all do and across, obviously, the NHS and every department and anyone who works for them. But this is something when it should children and your
Yeah. That reassuringness and that calmness that they provide and the care is, that's the first one that would have been for anything like that. And I felt, yeah, I would always just feel indebted. And it was just, even every person that we came in, but yeah, Moses was just like, yeah, I was just, well, what credit to his mom and dad? And it's, yeah. Yeah. Big up, Mo. Thank you, Mo. What a guy.
Okay, should we do some, do you want to do some, you've had to do in a couple of emails? Let's do some scheemails. Bear with me one second, I'm just going to bring it on. What do you call an email if you're on the Swiss slopes? Well, you've done the punchline. I mean, it's, it's, I think you'll have the government. It's not the cardinal sin. Oh, before we get into emails, can I ask you a question?
did you feel terrible after the meal? And this is no, this is no indictment of the restaurant. The food was incredible. But, I think it was disgusting how much I ate. That is the first time in a while where I've eaten like that. That was bad. By the way, can I say you, like, I've been out for courage with you three times now. You order like some stuff that I'd never usually have.
vegetables. The black lentil dal. No, I like vegetables, but what are those things that you had in there? The sparsity. No, the potatoes are unreal, but there was another thing that you had like...
They were like little brown things in sauce. Oh, that was the vegetable kofta thing. Yeah. Man, they were incredible. Yeah, I noticed. Yeah, you tucked straight in. I mean, it was my main, but you were bagging there. So that was cool. That's cool. I offered you some of my chicken. Yeah, you're very sweet. I love it when somebody starts helping themselves to your food, knowing full well that you can't eat theirs. It's a real, it's a real power play. I offered you some, I also said you could have some of my rice.
But anyway, I had an experience where I was enjoying the food so much, and I was starting to get full, but I was enjoying the taste of it so much, that I knew that I'd regret it if I didn't eat as much as possible, but then I did regret eating as much as possible. Is it a good thing with food that you've had to not avoid? You can still taste it like the next morning. Well, I'm glad you said that, because that bears the whole marks of somebody that didn't brush their teeth before they went to bed. I'm a teeth brusher, I like it. Okay, you're a teeth brusher, aren't you?
Yeah, okay, it's good to know. It's good to know. I would say, I mean, I'd love to know what proportion of the population do not brush their teeth, because I assumed that everyone does. But I'm sure that's not the case. I've met people at night who don't, who just do what they do. Yeah, well, that's, is that bad?
Yeah, I think you should brush them before you go to it. More of them for yourself, but just like, I mean, for the most part, it just gets a baby decay if you've had sweets and sugary snacks. Yeah, it's going to start decomposing. Yeah, me and you both had a Coca-Cola each.
Well, I had Diet Coke. Well, I've got my shoes at Diet Coke. I'm not going to go into the next one. I know you think it's carcinogenic because of the aspartame or whatever. Is that what you're going to say? Yeah, yeah. I didn't know either of the two. I didn't know carcinogenic or aspartame, but I knew there was some bad shit. But you need to agree with that. Okay. I love Jeff Norkop, by the way, is an old-school curry guy.
He had thought, I love the fact that every time the way it came over to see if we were right or just to bring something over, Jeff felt compelled to order a bottle of cobra. It's such love. Jeff is here from a very similar place in the world. He's literally from up to out and he reminds me a lot of guys that I grew up with. He's one of the funniest people I have in my life that
The way that me and you are just like, the guy will come over and go, anything okay with your meal? Jeff go, yeah, lovely, lovely. I'll just have another cobra, actually, I'll have another cobra. Just walk past, oh, here's your now bread. Yeah, I'm just thinking, yeah, with a full fucking pint, getting another bottle. Yeah, it was fun times, although on the way home, I feel absolutely dreadful. Okay, join an email.
Yes, let's do it. By the way, can I just share with you this email that I got that it's not... I don't understand how this email has come to us. I'm not going to say who it's from. I purchased your owls off Amazon. I'm missing the fins and screws. Please send ASAP. And then it's got a picture of two steel owls.
Headock 2-pack fake Al Decoys to scare birds away from gardens and patios. Rotating head-out bird deterrents. Nature can be scared. I can feel like a little side hustle that we're doing. Why has it come through? I feel that we should get back to them. And say what? I've not got fins and screws for their house spaces. No, just you should. You should message back and say, hello, a part of the deterrent of birds is you using your own initiative.
From that, you have to exercise something from your house to become the fins and screws. Do you know what I'm going to say? I'm going to say, really sorry, we're out of fins and screws. Might I suggest just standing outside of your house and scaring the birds manually?
Please say that, please do that. That would be hilarious. And no, no, no, no, just say, no, no, no, no, just say, I'm so, so sorry, we're out of fingers screws at a moment. We're just getting on top of the situation. In the meantime, if you're still having problems with your birds, then stand outside and scare them until your fingers squeeze. Okay.
I feel so excited. Yeah, it's exciting. I'll let you know what they say. Okay, it's a couple of, it's quite a few heavy, not heavy, but like wanting real advice. So... Well, I can't agree with what it feels like. All right, fine, fine, fine. Goodbye, say it, by the way. The guy who was going for that job got it, another guy who was going for a job got it. This is me the other day.
So here we go. JT, can you clip this up? Because it's this sort of level of detail in these emotional stories that will go viral. Do you have a thing on your Instagram where you get a message from someone? And it just seems to disappear. I'll tell you what I did have on my Instagram time. I just posted a video about not being able to follow cross. And it was only after I posted it that I realised that Ivy has chewed my glasses.
And I've got like one of the lenses is like all scratched one of the side and I just hadn't noticed it until I just I feel like it just like a mad old man. It just doesn't. Yeah, you've got a mad old man vibes you. I did like that video by the way. I thought it was very funny. Also put away the picture. I put up you look sick in it. People messaging me saying how sexy you are in a picture. No, that's not true.
I'm just warning you now because I know you've got a little bit of
Um, attention deficit, so I just want you to try and follow. Uh, hello Wolf. Yeah, a little bit. A little smidge. Susson. Uh, hello Wolf. Al Katz won squirrel in the rest of your lovely packs. Oh my God, the squirrel gets his first little naming. The reluctant raccoon here. I'm writing to you looking for a relationship advice. I've been in a relationship for two and a half years of my girlfriend who I love very much. She is my soul mate. She makes me laugh. She's absolutely beautiful and is not afraid to tell me when I'm wrong.
She's also from the USA, which we always laugh about because I've always been a fan of the USA. She's an anglophile. We met here studying her masters. However, due to recent events in her career, not being paid correctly, and general things like missing family and friends, she told me she thinks there's a really high chance she's going to move back there this summer when her tenancy ends.
Obviously, I understand why she'd want to do that, as I can only imagine how isolating being away from such key people can be, but part of me also feels resentful. Firstly, I moved to London to ensure we were close together, and on the pretense that we'd be living together at some point. It's now been a year and a half, and with this move on the cards, that seems unlikely to happen.
She often complains about feeling lonely and is describing is the only thing that feels like home in the UK. So the fact she seems unwilling to give it a go, we've discussed this, makes me feel like I'm doing something wrong. Thirdly, it's impossible to move to the USA or get a job with any sort of ease. You need really good sponsorship and with Trump coming and it seems like it'll only get harder.
I'd be happy to move there if it's plausible, but it isn't. And with her not even interesting in moving in, I think suggesting a marriage visa is off the cards. I've previously said that I couldn't do an international relationship. I'm a sociable person. And like those, I love to be nearby, but I'm starting to think it could be worth a shot. However, she's not really willing to compromise, say, trying a year with me and then seeing whether we'd have any full-time capability. Should I bother? I'm getting to an age where all my friends are moving in with their partners, getting engaged, and I feel incredibly nervous about starting again.
I've never had an issue with forming relationships, but the thought of having to move on from this one potentially is filling me with deep dread. Any advice on this issue would be great. Love the show and keep being your sweet, sweet selves. Yours faithfully, the reluctant raccoon. Wow, the reluctant raccoon. It's a very tricky situation because you seem like you've found someone you care a lot about and you care about each other and it seems like a very
I think every relationship comes to moments within them that you have crossroads and you have times that are moving together or moving away or one person changing up their life and doing something.
For the other, first thing I think you just have a really, really, really honest conversation together about exactly how you're feeling and put just lay your cards on the table in everything you've said to us a bit more and be
state how you feel. I mean, I don't know how old you are. I mean, that's, I know I struggle sometimes with that when I was younger, sort of, you know, not just like relationships, but friendships sometimes letting them go because I was sort of too scared. To be fair, actually, I say that I struggle with it now to sort of sometimes say how I really feel in a situation and just sort of let sort of, sort of relationships to sort of deteriorate rather than actually sort of
lay my heart on the line and so it feels a little bit disingenuous giving you this advice but I think when it comes to something like this and someone you care about I think you kick yourself over more if you didn't say something but I would also say that there is a world where
things sometimes just start to be and if she's just got her mind set on moving that to be closer to her family and she's struggling to sort of find sort of those relationship people living away from home and I can't imagine what it's not like, whether it's like being away from your sort of family and what you call home.
I can't imagine how difficult it is for her, so I think it's just the sort of situation of being, um, and sometimes you just got to let people go as hard as that can be. I will say that the fact that she turns around to you and says that you are the thing that she feels is home is something really sweet. And then I think that suggests to me that
it's worth working on, but I think you've seen pretty stupid and I think long to have relationships, I did a long distance relationship with me and Catherine for the first two years of our relationship nearly was that and they're always difficult but doing something which is an international one I can imagine could be more testing but if you
If you feel it feels right, my big advice would just be laying your cards on the table, saying how you feel. And just doing that from a place where you don't feel like you're cornering someone, it's just like this is how I feel. But that's a lot. I hope it will go as well. And just remember that
In life, it's sometimes when it feels things aren't meant to be and things aren't going to be, but there'll be another light down the road. Wonderful, wonderful advice. Relax on my coon, I'm really sorry that you're in this dilemma. This is going to feel like harsh advice. I know you're really worried about how this is going to work out.
However it works out is going to be okay. So what I mean by that is if your girlfriend decides to stay, which doesn't sound like she's likely to, which she does to say that'd be great. If she decides to go and the relationship has to come to an end, you will also be okay. But I do think that Tom is right and that you need to have an honest chat and say, look, is there a world in which
We try, you know, maybe it's even she goes away and then you go and visit her and you see or you decide, maybe you decide to make a clean break of it or
you commit to stay. Whichever one of those things, I think it's worth having an honest chat and seeing what you both want. And look, the implication is, is that although she loves you very much, she just wants to go home. And that's a difficult thing to swallow. But you will be all right. But I do think that you need to have an honest conversation with her and say exactly how you feel about it.
if she does decide to move back and the relationship has to come to an end for every reason because your long-term relationship won't work. What Tom was talking about is a long-term relationship where him and Kat knew that they were going to end up together. It doesn't sound like that's going to be as easy for you.
You know, there is a possibility that you decide to do a long term relationship and then the marriage visa might be something that feels appropriate down the line. But either way, whatever outcome happens, I'm just telling you, it will be fine. Whatever outcome you arrive at, you will be okay. Okay, it's not going to be
You know, everybody, people get very, very caught up in, if I choose this road, then I won't go down that road and I might regret it forever. Whatever road you take, you take the best path that you possibly can with the information that you've got in front of you and it will be fine, I promise you. So, but just, you know, be as honest and as open about your feelings as you possibly can be and I hope it all works out for you. Best of luck. Beautiful.
Tommy D. Yeah, can you give us a, have you got time to give us a closing film? Of course I have. Sure. Where's this content? Buns of contention. Chicken buns. Vegetable falafels sitting lonely on a plate. Can I have that? Sure you can, friend. Sharon's great. Sometimes I turn to my kid and say, share your toys. She says, I don't share. I don't like to share.
sooner or later she'll get a gist. Truth of the matter is that sometimes it's weird to share things. If I was to ask too wet to borrow Romish's glasses, he'd go, why? They wouldn't be any good, they're not your prescription. But here, have this hat.
Make sure you feel good, Ron. Makes me feel good, too. And I guess that's the thing. There's an old motive. I think Mr. Churchill had said it. Sharing is caring. Sharing is also bearing. Load bearing. Load bearing for the person that says, given something that I have nothing in return, but a truth is something you don't give to receive. Unless you sound a clause. And all he wants to receive is love. I guess what I'm really, really getting to is this. Kickback, relax.
Sit with friends, loved ones, family and give a little bit of something and I'm not talking about physical goods. I'm not talking about money. I'm talking about time because that's the one thing none of us are ever getting back. Share your time with the people who count and you know what?
The love will come back to you, fivefold. Stay well. So they decent. Stay you. That was great stuff. Thank you so much. So what a beautiful, beautiful sort of...
explanation for Waitik so much for my food last night. JT Mac Miller there's a posthumous Mac Miller album who's one of my favourite ever artists called Baloonaism that's just come out. It's a song and it's called Funny Papers. JT could you play us out with that. Guys thank you so much for listening to the podcast. Look out!
For us, posting the photos, whichever you choose as the animal pack will be the new thumbnail for the podcast. Take care of yourselves, guys. Thank you so much for listening. We'll see you next time. Thank you, friends. God bless. Bye-bye.
Yeah, somebody died a day out I saw his picture in the funny papers Didn't think anybody died on a Friday Some angry danker or some kind of money trader Recently divorced her drunk driving down the highway And drove off the bridge to his wedding song Blew out the bass and his speakers You could still hear the troubles The hospital was useless And everything was quiet but the music Recently I only beat peace When in deep sleep in the same dream The world saved a smile on her face waiting on her
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