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Oh my goodness. Oh, like to load it. Wolf-a-n-owl is back in the middle. You want that face? Like to load it. Like to load it, baby. I get it. Ready. Let's go. Yeah, a little bit of the John Kearns about you, actually. We are back in the building in the little bit in between Christmas and New Year, taking the fruit. Yeah, because this will go out on New Year's Day. How'd you know? Have you spoken to JT?
Well, oh shit, of course. Well, we've got no idea. He might be on holiday. I mean, I don't know when this goes out, actually. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, OK. Yeah, somebody has to wait it. OK. And we've not communicated to him at all. So you think I might have joined the government with the New Year's resolution special? Mate, that was OK. Let's just talk through this.
I messaged you saying, should we do an episode tomorrow? You said yes. Very kind. Excited. Very excited. Yeah. So I got the message by the way this morning. Yes. I know. You have your night. What a dream to wake up to. I'm like, yes, I get to see my fucking brother.
Yeah, so you have your notifications silenced. What does it mean when you, on your phone, in the evening, you obviously don't want to be bothered. So you have silenced, I just throw my phone in a box somewhere, but you have notifications silenced, right, in the evening. My phone knows my routine, baby. It knows from 8.30 p.m. I'm uncontactable. Unless it's reindoorbell, which I needed, by the way, the other day. As you know, someone tried to break into my home.
Okay, should we do story by story? This is one of my newest resolutions, by the way. Just interrupting and going off on the tangent. I don't think you need to worry about it personally. You've got to review to this podcast, I think. It's like going, Tom, listen, I love you, but interrupting to you is like breathing. Do you know what I mean?
You can't suddenly go, oh, I don't like him. It's like going, I don't like two guys that talk shit for an hour. Well, this isn't the podcast for you. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I get to take it. So anyway, so you said to me, let's do it. And then I was sort of gotten with my day. And then I get a mystery going, I've picked something up. It could be a New Year special. Fine, New Year special, I'm all on board with. Then suddenly, yo, yo, yo, listen.
Big, big news. We're recording an episode later on today. It's a New Year's resolution special. So, first of all, asking for a bit of admin to be done, which, by the way, you will not fucking lay a finger on, by the way. I've got it here. I'm fresh. I'm ready to go. Okay, great. All right. So, mate, mate, for the first time ever in Wolf for Now History. You're doing the message. I'm fucking it, yeah. Okay, great. All right. Well, the second issue I have is to be absolutely crystal clear
I wasn't saying it for comic effect, I am against New Year's resolution. I don't hate New Year's resolution, so really give me the ick. I don't hate them, they don't give me the ick. I actually disagree with ick. Don't get me started on ick. It feels like saying that teenage, we were with friends just today and their teenage daughter used the word ick.
I know they'll get together and they don't involve me. One of your supposed best friends. By the way, I've told you now. I've told you now. I've told you and you have my word, my oath, my bond, my fucking sacrilege, right? Okay.
You are going to be the first guest to my new house. That's me, Catherine. You're this happening. March, you are literally, you're the ragonator and so that is there. And it marked me a liar and a vagabond if this doesn't happen. I look forward to that. I look forward to that. It would be amazing. I'm literally going to hold you by the hands, take you in and go. This is the first tour I've given of my new abode.
Yeah. OK. Well, Grace will go. By the way, Grace is the cutest thing. Grace turns around when she sees your TV and goes, Daddy's best friend. That's so sweet. It's very cute. It's so sweet that your daughter has to identify Daddy's best friend on the telly rather than in her house because it's never been fucking invited.
Well, it's also quite sad that Daddy has no other friends because Daddy doesn't have many friends and Catherine has a plethora of different friends that come into the house. You and I have had a text conversation about this recently where we both came to the real life. I've got to admit something quite bad here. It's quite embarrassing.
And then we'll talk about New Year's Resolutions. Well, I had to talk about my home invasion as well. Yes, yeah, we'll talk about that as well. I was thrown into a spiral recently, which you were caught in. I'm very worried about you. Yeah, you're in the eye of the tornado because I text you straight out here in the lazy eye of the tornado because I've got in touch with you. Don't you say that? No, I'm allowed to do it. I'm allowed to do it. But you're better than that. You're better than that. That me doing tall jokes. Yeah. Yeah.
Listen, I know if we are the rest of my panel show and I say something about my eye and you say something about your height, we are in trouble. Apparently that's all I do. Anyway, let's not get into that. The point is, a photo was shared of a group of friends of mine out for Christmas drinks and that photo being shared on the WhatsApp was my first
awareness of those drinks happening. And so I then turned to Lisa and I said, oh, you know what, I'm starting to occur to me. I don't really actually have
that many friends. Now, Lisa sort of did the sort of, I don't know if you, you must have heard this from Kat, the sort of resigned sigh of having to talk her husband down from another precipice that he's put himself on needlessly. And she sort of said, I'm sure there's a number of reasons you weren't asked, and you probably were asked and forgot about it. Anyway, I wasn't asked. And one of the reasons I wasn't asked, and I'm going to put this to you, apparently,
One of the reasons I don't get asked these things is that I always say no. And so now, it's got to the point now where people are starting to think, is it worth asking wrong? You know, that is kind of the situation we find out. Yeah, I find up in that position. Do you know the worst thing of all is right, you get to that thing where you'd say no so much. And then when you don't get asked the heartbreaking realization that maybe you've missed the ferry, that actually the party is going to continue without you and it's your
You're the contributor of your own device. Is it too much to ask? I don't want to go, but I want to be invited. That's what I want my life to be. I don't want to attend, but I'd love to be told that I could attend if I wanted to. That's paradise to me. That's a sweet spot.
I've now left that spot, okay? I'm now in the spot where I'm not attending and I don't have the option. And that was, you know, it's a... I was about to say it's a tough morning for me. I'll tell you it was a tough morning for Lisa Ranganathan, it was incredibly tough for her. Yeah, I can imagine. Yeah, it was. You were a bit like, when Kathy Bill left the East Enders, and even if you probably thought the Square wouldn't go on without her, and that's probably what the thing is, that actually when Kathy Bill left the East Enders, right,
And obviously she was also Cathy Mitchell, she married Phil Mitchell as well. But when she left, she probably thought, I'm a generational talent here. I'm a legacy character in East Enders. It won't go on without me, and actually it went from strength to strength without it. It really grew, it became a juggernaut. And that's what, for me and you, when we see these pictures, we're like, I suppose I'll probably just cancel the pig lads night out if I can't go.
Well, I don't feel they've got a new, you know, terms in athletes there now and don't. You've managed to go into fitted on both of us there. But first of all, I was on no illusions that the night should not carry on without me. Do you know me? If anything, I'll be honest with you. I think it's probably better without me there. That's my honest appraisal of it.
The point is, I think you're great by the way on the night. I've got to say, because I think you don't try to fucking be set at the stage. You're great for a little chat too. You've always got a fucking funny anecdote. You're almost a perfect guy to have a night out with. Do you know what I'm really good at, Tom? And this is something you won't know about. Being a house guest, I'm absolutely fantastic. Yeah, I told you. There's nothing else I can do about it to at the moment. March, that is what we'll get working towards, OK? OK.
Let's talk about news resolution shortly, but before we do all of that, let's get into, because I've received a harrowing text message from you. Because you, you know, we do with each other's problems. A lot of my problems that I send to you, let's be honest, a lot of the time, I partly imagine you look at your phone and go, fuck it, now, here we go again. Never. Never. Okay. Because this is what I do. If you text, I go like that, I look at my phone and I go, babe, give me five.
My car needs me. Well, I actually called you and you're out with, not about this, about something else. I called you when you're out for lunch. And you very graciously answered the phone. I've got to say, really made me feel very special. Anyway, you're a very special person. Well, thanks. Anyway, so if one of my new year's resolutions to make you feel even more special, you don't need to do that. You don't need, I don't want to feel special. Okay. There's not in my ambitions. Okay. So Tom,
Yeah. Harrowing text received two videos, sent me two clips, and then you gave me the context, I'm going to hand over to you. So it was mad, right, the night before I had this really horrible dream that a house got broken into, and the ring door bells going off, and someone was breaking into the house. And I woke up in a sweat, and I was like, I looked at the ring door where nothing happened.
Following night, I'm lying in bed and my phone starts going off and I'm like, it's like two in the morning. I'm like, who the fuck's that either? It's either a troll who's up on the fucking yay or it's, and has watched one of the clips of me online and decided to tell me how much he hates me or it is the re-dored up toy.
Yeah, that's another one we're getting to. So I look at the phone, it's Ringed Over, and it's someone who's basically tried, who's come from around the back of our house, who some of them got into our back got, which is kind of mad how they got in there, and then he's come back out. So I switch on some lights, and I go running downstairs in the road down to the person.
You become aware of this in real time. You know this in London. Yeah, I hear something in the back garden, the Green Doorbell, so if I go there and I switch on some lights and they don't go over the back fence and the videos you see are them in the front by the car. I don't know if they're trying to break into the car or hiding behind it. It was quite an alarming situation. Do you know what I mean? I don't know if you've ever had that before. It's fucking horrible. I've had it twice now. I've had it. Obviously we talked about it.
So then you're like, yeah, switch your lights. Then you're in a situation like, do you call the police because you sort of, essentially it's just someone in your front garden. Yeah, what can we do? What can the police do? Yeah. But then also, I don't worry that, you know, people who live on my street over, who, although they're absolute pricks to me, they're still human beings. I'm like, do I, you know, so they go around and warn a couple of people that there's someone casing the area, not two in the morning. I wait until seven, the next morning.
But yeah, it was quite an alarm. It's very nerve-wracking when you're a wife and kid in the house. That shit's not cool. Well, I don't find that bit nerve-wracking. It's having them in the house when someone else is maping around. I find quite nerve-wracking. But have you felt since? Quite good. I think Catherine's been quite uneasy. Yeah. And then we spoke to some neighbours that it's happened to a few different people. Like we have a pretty good alarm security system, but you are a bit like...
Yeah, although it feels like horrible as well, Christmas, right? Yeah, it's a weird time. Just before Christmas. Yeah, you just sort of kind of, yeah. I can't think of a time which I'd accept to break in, but Christmas feels particularly harsh, doesn't it? Yeah.
But then also you're like, it's such a fucking, I don't know if you've ever had your house burgble bit, fucking really, it's... You've said it a couple of times now, I'm starting to feel like you're wishing it up on me, all right? Fucking won't be tired, someone tries to get over the motor into your house, but...
I dreamt to think what kind of security is something. Let me tell you something. Good luck fucking dealing with the robot dogs. That's all I'll say to you. You come knocking at my door. One of the guys that I roasted, you should get one of those fucking, like, alert our stations. You know, the ones that fucking, anti-sort of burglary ones and some security dogs. Because I fucking, it literally, at night it's fine. The rest of the time you've got, you've essentially, like, you've got a jock or a fucking alpha male. You've got the hands, you take your dogs living in your back garden. It's terrifying to go out there.
You've got a lovely garden, you're looking at it. I'd love to see more. Talking about how people don't like bigates because they're prussies. It's going in your wanker like that. You're coming out of your prick. No, no, because you're fucking terrifying. Actually, just rob up the house. You're drinking still water, you fucking homosexual. What's the floor like, mate? That's why you can't get a boner. All right. Thanks, mate.
I tell you what happened to me, mate. This is like, this is nowhere near as bad as your thing. But, um, do you remember I told you the story of, uh, the, the lady that, when Lucy and I did our vow on you, you know, the one you couldn't make it to, because we didn't, we didn't want to come. So, yeah. So, so, you know, this, yeah, I tell you what, you fucking say about me being a twister of the facts. Well, you thought you'd be Donald Trump for fucking Christmas dinner. Holy shit.
I was in Scotland. I was devastated. I actually looked at getting a fucking helicopter back. I couldn't afford it. Anyway, do you remember I told you about that woman that tried to sort of put together a group to come and complain? Yeah. So Christmas Day, I take the dogs out for a little mid-morning walk and I bump into, you know, we live right
30 seconds away from a church. So the vicar from the church is on a little morning constitutional. By the way, full...
Vicar outfit. And I've got to say, I like it. I think as a get up, I'm a fan. That's a special day, man. That's the day no one could say anything horrible about me. Everyone's got a tremendous respect. Anyway, he had a, he just looks great. Said to me, Mary. So how's he got? Yeah, I'm going to be asking. He had like, I would describe it as a sort of,
I think he sort of mid-fifties, maybe slightly receding, but he's gone for the like, he sort of gently slicked it back.
I like it. I liked it. I got so big fan. Anyway, he said Merry Christmas. And I said Merry Christmas. And there was a couple of, sort of a slight entourage with him and one of the ladies that was with him said, Oh, you've got lovely dogs. I said, thanks very much. And then she said, I hope they've got some treats.
this Christmas day. And I said, yeah, they have, yeah, yeah. They have just taken one and walked so they can earn them sort of, you know, calorie wines. We can run them on a, run a tight ship in our house in terms of dog weight management. I didn't say any of that. I'm just sort of freestyling. And anyway, went off. I come back, I tell Lisa, Lisa goes to me, what did the woman look like this described her? That's the woman. Wow. That woman. Wow. She's getting sorry. Yes, that I'd engaged in light Christmas dog treat conversation with.
That's the woman that tried to get fucking assemble a mob. Wow. And now she's got fucking God on her side. Well, you know, God won't be having any, yeah. One of the main things that he hates is fucking sick people. It's love by neighbour. It's like one of the main things, isn't it? Yeah, it's one of his main things. Yeah. Also, you know, I'm 45 years old. I've never ever had like a person of the cloth that I've preached near Vicar. So it's me, Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas, son.
It must be not, it's almost like Santa Claus himself reaching down. Had that kind of, I think anybody, you know, whether you're religious or not, when you meet somebody who is sort of as devoted. Regardless of what faith it is, there is something about them, isn't there? Yeah. Do you know, do you know what I mean? They have an energy, they've got an aura about them. Do you know what I mean? I don't know if being like TikTok aura, where you like that kind of bullshit. I'm talking about genuinely, they've got like a certain,
energy about that time of year as well. It's like foggy, it's hazy. Oh, it's beautiful. He's got his hair slicked back. It looks like a fucking, you know, like a decent methiosa. Yeah. Yeah, he's sort of like, you know, that out for Christmas. So, yes. God, it's such a great get up. He looks so good. Are you allowed to wear a dog collar if you're not a religious persuasion? Yeah, of course you are. Can anyone wear a dog collar? Yeah. Oh, well, kind of grandad shirts, but like,
Yeah, you can wear a dog collar if you're, I mean, I think it's, you want to be honest, I think it's a weird move, but you can't wear it. You have a different color, like a different color, though. I like something around my neck, like this.
Right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, there's a choice. You can either go for sort of a high neck top or a turtleneck or something, or you can wear a dog collar. I'll leave it up to you as to what the sort of... Yeah, I suppose you need a special shirt to go with the dog collar. Yeah. But they just wear it under the collar of the normal shirt. They've got... I think they've got, like, it's a special collar that you can sort of slip it underneath, right? Yeah, it means quite fucking outlining it for a look that you might...
Yeah. I don't know how I'd, I don't know how I'd feel if we met up and you without any announcement turned up in the dog collar and, and a yellow one at that. Well, you turn up in a claret and blue dog collar. It's because that's your new thing. But if somebody will talk to us and went, Oh, good. Well, we're trying to get Nathan. Oh, oh, hello, father. No, go. Yeah. Hello, sir. Merry Christmas. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I mean, you're making a very humble assumption. Happy. Yeah.
Yeah, but with the dog collar, it's like a disguise. Because I think the dog collar is like, you know, in some martial arts, you look at someone's chest rather than their face. What? In some martial arts, you look at their chest, like here, instead of their face. I know, you don't have to take your chest to tell me where they're looking. I don't know, you seem somewhat confused.
No, because I thought we were talking about a conversation between me and a vicar on Christmas morning, and I had to wear martial arts. That's why I look confused. The piece that I wasn't confused about is when he says, look at the chest, where could he possibly be? That's not the bit that threw me off. No, but sometimes you lack the persuasion when I'm going in a different room. What do you mean I lack the persuasion? What do you mean I lack the persuasion?
I'm telling you now, right? I don't even, I've now got to the point now, I don't even know what you think you fucking mean. I've genuinely got no idea what you think you're saying. I lacked the persuasion, what do you mean by that? What, what I'm saying to you, right? It's the comparable narrative, right? Oh, gosh. Just, just, just keep it simple. The dog collar. The dog collar. So it's a dog collar. They don't even look at the face. They look at a dog collar. But the dog collar is around the neck.
Right? Yeah, but you look at the dog collar, you're all fucking out, it's a priest. So you look at the dog collar rather than too much of the face. Right. Because the dog collar almost just draws your eyes to, it's like a nice necklace. Like, you know, you wear your fancy hip hop chain, which looks cool. I sometimes look at that, I forget that, I'm even talking to you.
Okay, so what has that got to do with martial arts looking at the chest? Yes, so some martial arts in crime regard, right? They say to look here to throw the person off, but also if you look at the person face when you're getting involved in some sort of like altercation is actually better to look at the chest.
Rather than into the face, if you look in the face, you can get drawn into a battle of sort of light. OK, so what the fuck is that body doing? What we're talking about? So what are you saying? Because it's a dog collar. The dog collar is something that's drawn. It sounds like the point you're trying to make is the vicar wears a dog collar in case you get into a tear up. No, the vicar wears a dog collar, I think, because it is like that's the thing that people notice. Oh, is it pointless?
It's like, it's a sign. It's like fucking that. It's like, you know, when you walk down the street and you see like, you know, I don't know, fresh baked beans here, like when I've been bored or like old sale. Fresh baked beans. Explain to me where it is you're getting. I'd love to know where it is you're getting fresh baked beans. Where are you getting fresh baked beans?
I mean, no one ever leads to a baked beans, but they're an incredible bottle of any breakfast. I've very rarely have a season for the French. It's one of the few things that we can both enjoy simultaneously. No, you're absolutely right. If we walk it down a street and we're looking for simultaneously at breakfast, and I was like, I fucking have sausages, bacon, fucking vegan sausages, mushrooms. Oh, no, fresh baked beans over here. Mate. Yeah, I've done this.
Okay, so what you're saying is the dog collar. You're saying the dog collar is there so that you know who you're dealing with. It's a sort. Yeah. Yeah. It's taken a long, long time for you to make something that I would describe as almost a point. Okay, but let's get into this. First of all, news resolutions. What is your news resolution?
Right, so I've got a couple, number one to make you feel more special. Number two, I want to learn to drive I think this year. I think that was my last year as well. Okay. But yeah, I really want to learn to drive this year. That's there. Why can I ask? I feel like this is the time now. I feel like this is the only time we've actually wanted to drive. I've never cared for it otherwise, but now I actually feel like actually I kind of need to.
Right. I've got an EEO. This is the time when I feel like they actually, yeah, I actually want to do this thing. Do you think we're getting to point now? When I was in Phoenix, by the way, they had, I actually, on more than one occasion, got a driverless taxi. Yeah. How were they? Fine. I like the taxi driver. I agree. I agree. I agree. Look, I love, I love.
I get black cabs a lot. I'm a big fan of them. I like the chat. I even like the chat when it gets a bit spicy and they're sort of saying something that really is veering close to the edges of something you'd find unacceptable. I even enjoy that.
Yeah. But I would say the driverless cars were fine. Absolutely fine. But I mean, I need to short journeys, but it seemed fine to me. Could you get your own driverless car and it just drives you everywhere? I'm sure that's not that far away. I am now, ever since the robot McDonald's incident, I am loath to question you on any of your technological predictions. But I feel like I want to just accomplish this thing before I leave this mortal core. Has it caused you problems?
Never. I just fancy doing it this year. It's just something I've been thinking about. But then I also worry that there's a thing where, as a tall guy, when I ever see people learning in cars, they're always quite small cars. Is there a car big enough for me to learn in? I don't know if Stephen Merchant or Greg Davis doesn't try to see drive? I don't know.
don't know but I mean we don't have to just base it on celebrities we know yeah I guess yeah yeah well yeah there you go so there you go you
All so well. No, I worry sometimes that I'd be that bad at driving, that it'd be the sort of thing that some would sort of start telling anecdotes about how bad I would drive in in them and sort of sort of, you know, but then it's not, you know, as a stand up. Yeah. Yeah. You're looking for material, I get it.
Look forward to that talk. I think to be fair, I want to really push my fitness goals. And also, you do the marathon, it's really fucking inspired me. So I want to do something that feels like I've accomplished a sporting feat. The marathon is a sporting feat that you've done. That is an incredible fucking thing. I don't know. You've talked a lot about it ever so much. But it's worth talking about.
And I think fucking, I like that in my locker. Yeah, okay. Yeah. It's a great dinner, dinner party, anything. I don't think it is. I don't think it is. Having run the marathon. What you've run, you've run the marathon. I don't think it's not a good anecdote, no. No. I've heard you turn around to people and be like, you know, well, 18, I didn't even think I could fucking accomplish the fucking thing, mate.
So you don't, you don't, cause what I tend to do, let me explain to you what on the wall for now, just as a thing. Let me just talk to you about what my strategy is. Sometimes when I'm giving you a bit of shit, I'll take something that you have said and I'll exaggerate it, I'll put a bit of extra spice on it, add a bit of VAT. You just fucking invent stuff. That's your strategy. You just full on, you just full on make stuff up. It's like doing a podcast with the Daily Mail. It's mine.
Was there a mile that you did feel hard, like you couldn't come on? No. Fuck off! No, it was hard, like the whole way around, but there was never a point, there was never a point when I thought I wasn't going to finish, no. That didn't cost my mind. You know, like that, every great sports moment has a moment, you go, I don't think I can do this. Well, I think that the differences is that my goal was completion, so that is...
You know, if I'd have got an injury or something, then yeah, then you're looking at a real tester wheel there. But the truth is, I sort of chanted along at a fairly low pace, had about seven toilet stops, had a few chats on the way around. Well, where's the toilet situation? I'd describe it as leisurely, my ammo round. Where's the toilet situation? Where's the toilet situation? They've just got toilets. They've just got a porter of those around there. But you are looking at losing 10 minutes from your time every time you decide to stop to have a toilet, bro. Is that acute?
No, just because of getting yourself ready in a mental state. Yes, because of the cues.
What a fucking question. But it is, yeah, it's a sporting fate. It's something I talk about when I talk about you. I say, you know, what about when he did the maths? It's fucking amazing. It is amazing. And to have gone from where you went to fucking, and you're doing it again this year. I am, yeah. So you're, you're, you're, I'm fucking two in the hole. Well, you're not, it's not competition, is it? No, but it's like you have, yeah, you have a better time this year than last year.
Who knows? Well, I know. I will put money on the fact you will, because I know that's why you're doing it. I went for a training run this morning, absolutely disgusting. I mean, I think I'm probably worse than when I very first started. Can I say, by the way, this is a very common theme in the New Year's resolutions. OK.
Let's hear these news resolutions and then I'm going to talk to you about why it is, I've got a slight issue with them, all right? Okay, cool. Okay, go. I'm not going to have so many people, I'm not going to give names. For some, it's about 150 kilos and health issues, 2025 a year. If I make it or break it, I need to drop the weight and be healthy for my five year old daughter, motivating tips please. You go first this time because I'm used to it, I think that's a better way.
Motivating tips, please. What is the actual goal here? I think he's got 150 kilos and he's got health issues. So he wants to drop weight and be healthy for his five-year-old daughter, which I get because that's the main reason I've got fit.
Yeah. Okay. If I was to give you advice, and obviously Tom and I have both gone through, you know, similar sort of weight loss journey, is that if you, um, one of the, I'm just telling you from my experience, so one of the, one of the biggest mistakes that I consistently made,
was giving myself some big goal of I'm going to lose this amount of weight by this amount of time and I'm going to go super extreme to do it. I'm going to stop eating this, stop eating that and do, do, do, do, do. What would tend to happen is I'd start trying to do that. I'd fuck it up and I'd go, okay, well, I failed now. So then I'll wait for another bit of motivation to hit and then go, right, I'm going to go again. And this time, by Easter, I'm going to have done this. And then this time,
My big advice to you is to just whatever change you make, whether that to be to eating or exercise or anything like that, whatever change you make.
My rule was, can I envisage doing this forever? Right? Can I envisage doing this for the rest of my life? And if the answer to that is no, you need to think of something else. Right? Like, so for example, it's very easy to go, not very easy. It's an easy target to be go, I'm going to run 60 kilometers a week. Right? That's my goal. That's a great way of losing, I don't know, 10 kilometer run,
Luke burns you about 600 calories. You do that five times a week, right? So you're getting rid of 3000 calories there, right? So are you going to do that for the rest of your life?
And if you don't think you're going to be able to do it for a silly life, then you need to think of an easier goal. And then what will happen is you might go, I'm going to run once a week, or I'm going to do 10,000 steps a day, or I'm going to do 5,000 steps a day. And you start doing that. And what happened for me is that once you started managing to achieve that, you would then go, oh, actually, I've managed to internalize this. I can step it up, and I'm going to start doing this going forward.
And then, in that way, those things stick. So that's what I personally found exercise wise. Diet wise, very, very similar. The truth is, it is 80% kitchen, 20% exercise. Do you know what I mean? It really is about that old sort of cliche is true. My tips are, and I'm not a guru, and I don't have any qualifications, but it's like calorie deficit,
you know, look at what your base calorie requirement is. Try and go a little bit under that. Don't go radically under that and make protein your friend. That those would be my two tips. That's what worked for me is like protein is like what your body needs to recover from exercise and it's what fuels your muscles. But the main thing that I found useful about it is it makes you feel full up. So if you make protein
What I've found is if I've made protein, the main part of my meal, or focus on protein, which is difficult for somebody who's more challenging for somebody that's plant-based, then that's sorted out for me. And I would say take one day at a time. That is genuinely my advice. As you go today, I'm going to try and do a bit of exercise and watch what I eat. And all you've got to do is worry about today. Then tomorrow, you wake up and you go today, I'm going to try and do that again. That would be my advice.
pretty much I'd echo that. I think the protein thing is like I always find if I have a breakfast it's high protein is for the rest of the day I'm not then snacking on shit and I think for me as well like my whole thing of getting fit and everything that I've changed in my life in the last four years was all about great so it's a similar thing to
to this person in the fact that i think and then like everything i did but it's been small goals and small things like as you're saying really it was like
I couldn't do a press-up, you know, embarrassing as I find myself and that's why I never really went to gym and like, you know, five years, four or five years ago. You know, so that year when I did 100 press-ups a day for a month, that was like a thing of like, fuck, I couldn't even do a press-up two years before. So it's like pushing myself to little goals, but then even now, like as a dad and as someone who's quite busy, you know, busy with work,
I've realised that actually like a leisurely hour in the gym it's gone really so it's like I could do half an hour to split something in the morning but I think it's where you've got to be in a place where you want to like now it's probably it's not my hobby I enjoy training I love weight training I love walking as a family we go out and you know and I'm
And also it's what I've said. I don't ever think by pushing yourself to it. I think you can't give out. You can't go, I want to become training every day. And I want to give up all this at the food. I want to give out all these different. If you try and give up too much too quickly.
you'll never sustain it. And if you try to change your life so radically, very quickly, you'll never keep it up. So I think as you said, it's a small trait. Like what I look back at now when I first started training and I was like 24, nearly 25 stone, you know, that was a point where I couldn't do most things. I was like not able to. I was like, and now, you know, five, six stone
Lighter is like, I can do more, but that's been a really slow, and also stand when I was first working out, and stand was very openly like, look man, this is going to be something that you just, as you said, is slow, and it's going to be life-changing, but we can't do, but I'm not going to get you to, you know, it's going to take a few years to get yourself in a better place, so I think it's taking that time, but it's also finding something, as one started with running,
and I've done I think with like weights and training I enjoy that I find it good to push myself boxing I enjoy so finding things that you're actually doing and it doesn't it shouldn't feel like your
You know, you're forcing yourself to do, you should be like, you should relish that and go, I'm really enjoying that. And when it comes, you know, I still eat like, you know, I still eat two takeaways a week. And I don't, you know, and I shouldn't, because I've got, you know, some health problems, but I still find that's the hardest thing for me is to die at, because I feel like, you know, I definitely, you know, I would even say in the last year, I'll probably put on a bit.
And I could be better with my diet, but the truth is, this is where I'm at. Do you know what I mean? I've had to accept, do you know what I mean? I don't have my ideal body.
But it turns out I don't really want my ideal body. Because what I would have to do to get my ideal body is not something I'm willing to do. So this is where we're at, do you know what I mean? I can't be the guy that's measured. I just can't be the person that's measuring out their food or thinking twice if I go out for dinner with Lisa about what I'm having. I will try and be careful. If I have a big lunch, that'll affect what I have for dinner and all that. And I'm more conscious in that way. But I just can't.
For me personally, and I really respect people that do it this way, it can't dominate my life. I just, I can't live like that. Do you know what I mean? The only thing I did find that, because I was like so glad in this for me and Catherine, or I go out for anyone with me, or it became a joke with friends, or even when I've been out of food with you, and I will order so much that I'll eat nearly everything on the table if you're well aware.
So what I started doing before I went out, I'd have a protein shake before the meal. So that would literally, as you said, with protein, it meant that I'm not. I was as hungry. It felt like I was able to go and have time to eat and not be overly like ordering. And that massively changed that for me. Yeah. One of the things that I've been slightly distracted about is I think I said 600.
calories around and then you're running six times, that would be 3,600 calories. So I'm really sorry. Yeah, you said 6,000 calories at one point, yeah. Did I? Okay. Anyway, the point of this. I was up with those pricks who corrects everything that someone else says. No, you just rather let it go out and that person gets hammered on social media. No, I get it. Okay, here we go. All right. This is from the Paul Turkey.
Be more organised, plans straight and jump straight in the house so I don't have to ask my missus what we're doing this weekend when she's already told me 94 times already. So just, I guess, making their life more organised. I mean, I don't know. I'm not a great person to talk to. I cannot advise.
I'm not in a position to advise you on this at all, really. I'm one of the most disorganized people in the country, not the world. You know, previous to getting an agent, I'd frequently be in a situation where I was supposed to be at three different gigs on the same night. I would often space to be at two different social things on the same evening.
I'd love to tell you that was rare. That would be like, we started calling them at home, Romesh situations, where it would happen once or twice a week, where I'm supposed to be at two or three different things on the same night, and it hadn't occurred to me until like five o'clock on the day. I'm supposed to be at these different number of things. I mean, it's fucking insane. The way that I've dealt with it is,
I've asked Lisa to please, please not leave. That's the way I've dealt with it. But I think that if I was to give any advice, look, the truth is what has sort of slightly helped me is getting into a habit of writing shit down.
That's the one that is the key. That is the key. I've got like a Google Calendar now and these are all such basic things. You can't say I have a Google Calendar and running that calendar. I have
Flow, Lily, Antonio, right, I have like an amazing, then I've Lizzie and Ollie and then Catherine's really, really organized. I've like six or seven people in my life who are incredible at doing that. And I still will organize stuff on the days I've got other things and have to have tech flow or text Andy. The number of times I get awful. Even though I have this all laid out for me, I'm fucking terrible. The number of times I get a phone call from Flow going, Romesh, why did you put that in?
I've just seen you put this in, and I go, yeah, just goes, you can't do it. There's already a diary. It's literally like in the diary, literally right above your entry. There's something going on in the news you can't do that.
I don't even see it. I don't know what the hell is wrong with me. I've just had a situation in the car with Catherine in the space of 15 minutes where we organised to have a date because there's nothing I want to do. We want to do a date there a month, so we're doing a date. We're doing that.
So it's like, like, okay, so she's like, cool, right? Really excited. We booked it in for the first week of January. She's really excited. I'm really excited. And then, uh, my mate called and went, do you want to go and play golf on the set day? And I went, oh, yeah, and I've got everyone else playing, going, yes, fucking, oh, I'm well up for that. I would play golf rages. And she just stared at me and she went, are you going to go?
And I was like, yeah, I don't think we're doing anything else on that day. We are. We've literally just planned that fucking thing. You're big doofus. I'm like, OK. Well, we'll have to do it another day, babe. I'm playing golf. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll have to do some more of these because we're out of time. We've got one more here. Yeah. It's quite important one. If you're not giving me a name, it's hard because, obviously, I could see it now. It's an Instagram.
So she said, News resolution, learn how to run. Brothers told me I have a fat girl run, so changing it up. It's an interesting one, because I have an awful running style. My running is, I thought it was a good runner. And then we made a show called Action Team. And I remember, actually people, I think you could have heard my heart breaking within a 30 mile radius when I watched the edit of me running up a hill. And it was literally, I found it so, like literally just fucking broke me.
Can you change your run? What's your running style like? I mean, my running style is not elegant. My walking style is not elegant. I don't like it. I don't like it.
But, look, what I would say is, in my opinion, in my opinion, anonymous messenger, you don't need to change the way you run. You can, if you want to, you can work on it, if you really want to, and it's really bothering you,
then go for it. But I'm telling you, it's not bothering anyone else. Like, you just... And also, if you're enjoying running, it should... That should be enough. Like, fuck what people think of how you run. Do you know what I mean? Where is her brother? I don't think it's the kind of brotherly banter that he'll give you. Yeah, exactly. Like, you don't need to change the way you run. You're running. It's great. Well done. Do you know what I mean? Like, it's amazing that you're able to go and do that. Fuck changing the style of your running. You don't need to do that. So, that's my advice. I see the whole process.
All right, Tom, do you want to... Okay, before you get into your little thing, I just want to say very quickly, I'm not...
I said that I wasn't in favor of news resolutions. This is my quick thing, and we haven't got a lot of time, so I'm just going to very quickly say what my issue is. My problem with news resolutions is it implies that you're not enough right now, and I don't like that. I don't like the fact that it suggests I've got improved myself, got to change myself next year, and then you give yourself some arbitrary target.
that you're going to feel shit about yourself if you don't make it. Like if you decide, oh, I'm going to lose this amount of weight by the end of next year. And then you don't do that. Somehow that years of failure. No, it's not. I think this is what I'm putting forward. New days resolutions. And all that is is every day you wake up.
And you go, this is what I'm going to try and be today. I'm going to phone a mate that I haven't spoken to for a while and make a connection with him. Or I'm going to go for a run today. And if you don't make it, you're only one sleep away from correcting it, right? Rather than having to do some year-long thing, and then you give up and then you think, oh, fuck this year, you haven't. You did great. This last year has been tough.
You've got this far. You're smashing it. Don't put some arbitrary target on your year that means that what you've done this far is that it's been undermined. You're doing fucking great. Don't let a new resolution make you think any different. That is my advice. Well, you know something?
in a way where we've turned the tables and I've read the emails, let's take it out there. That was a beautiful, beautiful summing up my friend. And you know what, it's been a joy. And one of the things I'm looking forward to, and I will put a 12 month enjoyable feat on this, is continuing to make this beautiful podcast with you.
You're a darling to be a random, my God, I love every bone in your body and your skin, your blood and your... Cartilage and all that, yeah, I say. I feel exactly the same. Thank you for joining us for another year. I hope you ever or had a happy new year whenever this goes out. I hope 2025 is a great one for you and we will see you next time.
on the ship that we call the wolf now should do a song actually. It was a sweet song. Okay, I can I just say I had to. I normally do say can I just say there's a there's a guy.
Ralph Mattel, I did The Streets and Undergig. He's written a song called The Streets and Under, which is an incredible song. And he's known for that song. That's the song that everyone will know for. But when we were there that night, he sang another song. And I'm just going to get it out now.
It's more of a Christmas season, but as you retrospectively listen to it in New Year's Good, it's called The Things You Wish Yourself. And he wrote this song, so anyone at Christmas, it's basically not celebrating just Christmas, it's celebrating. So whatever faith you are, wherever you're from, wherever you celebrate, it was just basically saying that we should all just be in this together and it's like the things you wish yourself. It's a really beautiful song. And I encourage people, it's one of those things, when I heard it,
That night, I've listened to it a hundred times since. So, rather than tell, the things you wish yourself. It's a very beautiful song. Okay, JT, play us out with that. Thank you so much, guys. Love you very much. We'll see you next time. Well, yes. Bye. Maybe this year it will snow. It may snow. I don't know. Cut the thread and let it go.
Let it go, let it go May the season bring you joy and find you in good health But most of all, I wish you all the things you wish yourself
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