S3 Ep 61: Nas Nights & Big Soups

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Hello and welcome once again to The Wall for Now and I'm astounded to tell you it's 7am on a Sunday morning. I thought I was going to be able to top, top in terms of being awake at this time because I didn't get into 2.30 more of that. Whoa, yeah, 2.30. 2.30 in the morning, yeah. But you've already blunged. Well,

But I'll tell you what happened. So NARS was playing at the Royal Albert Hall, doing like the 30-year anniversary. Catch it, see? I'm below you on the screen. I just caught that name drop, maybe.

I'm below you on the screen. I'm below you, my one. I think it's always the person here. I think you're always at the bottom of your own screen. Yeah. And that's true in life, isn't it? You're always at the bottom of your own screen, just looking up. Why aren't we not doing as well as that guy?

You know, it's a matter for a lot. Wait, that is, let me say, I have come up with some absolute doozies on this podcast over the last four or five years, whatever we've been doing it. That's up there, maybe. Yeah, thank you. You're always on the bottom of your own screen. Yeah, it's a shame, isn't it? You know what we should do? We could do a t-shirt where you have, we have like a picture of someone and then there's an empty box and in the empty box, you draw a picture of yourself. They're like sort of custom.

Do you know what? I've always thought I wish I could have a tissue where I do a drawing myself. That's so sick. You've got your kid to do a drawing in your tissue. No, actually, I drew that. And then they look at you. There's a little part of you that is interested in this idea.

Look, I actually think the fact that you could customize your t-shirt to picture yourself. If I saw someone like that, and they walked past me on Oxford Street, I'd have to stop them and say, hey, did you try to picture yourself? And they'd go, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like a custom bespoke t-shirt. Oh, like, let me take some of the custom bespoke t-shirt, just a blank t-shirt. Well, I mean, draw it yourself. Yeah. I mean, you don't need us to provide a box, do you?

No, no, but no, you're not getting it right, right? It's got written there, it says, you're always at the bottom of your own screen. Then it has like a box, like a zoom screen, on the top of the box could be me and you just absolutely laugh it, right? And the bottom is empty and then you draw a picture of yourself. So what is that merch saying? That is saying that you and I are above whoever listens to it.

Is that what the metaphor is? Maybe we should be bottom. And then they draw a picture above, and then it says you're always at the bottom of your eyes. What about is you're always above. You may be bottom of sunscreens, but you're always above these two.

You're going to have to do a lot of chess work, really, just to get it nice and broad so you can get the logo straight. What about cream rises to the top of their own screen? Oh, that sounds disgusting.

There's some very sexy new merch coming out, right? Yeah, I will say to you now that

You know, we've been doing this podcast for a while, and we talk about content, and we talk about a lot of what we might do in the live shows. Never does Tom Davis come more alive than when there are some merch suggestions on the WhatsApp. That is when you really see his creative now to come out there. Give us a real Delboy when it comes to the merch. Hey. Little Antonio is... I knew you were going to play that. Antonio is an absolute merch fiend. I love it.

The ingenuity of that kid is so nice. I'm like, kids. Kids. Yeah, you've done kids. I've got us. Yeah, she's not. Yeah, OK, but not a kid is a bit of a man. She's, I tell you, is what, 26, 25? Yeah, I would say like a girl. Kid. Mate, I still think it's a cool thing to be called kid. I was called kid not so I would go.

By who? By someone older than me. That's a guy who's quite older than me. Was he wearing a Stetson and just got off his horse? No. No. No. He had a cowboy vibe too, but he worked in the... It's like he was a cowboy. He'd sort of like, you know, hung up. He was in America, can he go? Can you give me... Can you give me in a sentence what he said to you? Well, we were playing golf, right? What? No, nothing.

It's just with somebody that's so busy as you. You'd still manage to fit in quite a bit of golf. That's all I'd say. Cold day. I've barely got Tom to fucking Tom, I was shooting. It's an absolute nightmare. And all for a quick 18, seeing six years. We played 13, that takes it. It was so cold. I hit a shot, a pillar, I'd call it.

And this guy Lewis, interesting character, lovely fellow, turns around to me and he said, cool, great shot, kid. OK, I sure don't mind it. I don't mind it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know what, when he said it,

He's probably 10 years, you know, 12 years older than me. I actually felt a warmth inside me that felt pretty, well, that's a pretty cool thing. I wouldn't say you were a reliable litmus test for whether a social interaction is acceptable or not, no, to make me feel it. No, because your reactions to things are slightly unusual, do you know what I mean? He was the sort of person that would go, oh, do you know what? I was at a restaurant the other day, I had some soup going on.

By the way, I find it insulting that you think I'm ordering soup at a restaurant unless it's really high-end. What do you mean? What's so insulting about that? I'm saying now, right? That soup can be an absolute fucking shit show. So can everything. So can everything at some restaurant. No, no, no. Nothing matters much as soup. Can I say soup when it goes wrong is off a watery broth that's not been left long enough. The vegetables have even touched the hard walk before they've touched their mouth.

Or sometimes they just, that tastes a bit like, hold it. It's a cup of soup. When have you been at a restaurant, ordered a soup and it's a cup of soup? I have twice in my life. You know something. You know something. You really are. You'll be such a fucking arsehole politician. Because you do this all the time, is that you make a point and then I pick you up on it and then you just make up a fucking story to back yourself up.

I can tell you now, Bernie in, right, back in the day, the Bernie in used to use copper soups. They used powdered soup. Okay, fine. My response to that would be, okay, what I wouldn't do is judge getting soup at restaurants wholesale because you once had a copper zoop a fucking Bernie in.

Right, the Birmingham, right, which was absolutely fucking soldier-shoring, because I used to love it, don't you? That was a super describe, because, like, did it say? I think it was a super-day, and when we asked, like, I said, well, what's a super-day, they were, like, leaking potato, say, speak. They tried to show it up by, like, putting some croutons in it, but I knew, I knew.

It was, you know, even at a young age, I knew my soups. Even at a young age, I was a fucking soup, fucking expert, right? Yeah. Then when we, me and Catherine were in Ireland, not so many years ago, we went to a restaurant and they served a cup of soup. What are you talking about? Where? Well, when I say cup of soup, what I mean is a powdered soup, a soup made from powder. So it's not like, you know, and that was... So just slow down a little bit, because sometimes you whip through jogging. So a powdered soup is a soup made from powder, is that what you're saying?

You're such a slug. You're such a... You fucking prick. Anyway, this super analogy is not going to stand up to this level of scrutiny. The point I'm trying to make is... What I'm saying to you... What I'm saying to you is super warm about stuff. Anyway, go on. Yeah, but what I'm saying to you is super, super when it's done well, it's saying where you, literally, the goodness that you can feel just streaming through your body, it's like your veins of a new friend, right?

Okay. Okay. Right. And that is what soup should do. And if soups are badly, it's just literally, and then almost you blame yourself because you didn't go something a little, you know, the temporal prawns are saying, you know, you go, I'm going to go saying that homely and lovely soup. Soup is like a friend you haven't seen for ages and warm arm and your shoulder.

You know, just literally when you feel like, oh, I'm kind of feeling cold. What do I need soup? I feel a little bit lost. What do I need soup? So when people don't take soup seriously, it really aggravates me. It's like this isn't good enough. This should stand for something more than what it is. Okay. Yeah, the cold plums this morning. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Do you think you might just be obsessed with warmth in general?

Bill Coldpunch. Coldpunch is a game for those adverts that they play like a bit of music in. You know, like those sort of like calling kind of be proud to be British adverts, you know what I mean? Sometimes when you come home from a day at work and all you want is to walk through the suit, warming up your soul and making you feel good about life again. Hines. And then it's just somebody smiling into the camera. Little tomatoes. Wait, can I just say, by the way, I lived off Hein's big soups.

probably between sort of what I'd say 1997 and about 2007, 10 years spell my life where I lived off big soups. You didn't live off big soups for a decade, okay? All right.

The way you say that is I ate a lot of big soup. What you don't say is I lived off it from 1997 to 2007. Tell us more about your time on the streets.

Yeah, big suits were served in a cathode, I went into, high's big suits were an absolute thing of joy. That's a suit that someone's smashed. I went to a restaurant once with my dad once, I remember my dad saying to the white, the waiter saying about the suit, my dad said I'm mad. And what's the suit with the day? And he said whatever it was, my dad went, is it high? And I went, no, no. And my dad went, don't worry about it. I'll get saying this.

The batches are brought up, the batches of their soups are getting good. It's always interesting to me what really sort of sets you off. I feel like this could be your tour. Well, soup. Yeah.

So anyway, listen, I wasn't hanging out with Niles. No, I wasn't hanging out with Niles. So Niles is doing a gig at the Royal Albert Hall, right? You've met Niles though, right? You've interviewed him. No, never interviewed Niles. So he does the gig. And it's like, it's an amazing gig, right?

So anyway, a couple of weeks ago, I got approached by, I think again, as many of the cooler things in my life, this is sort of sorted via Martin Tuss move. But Soho House said, can you do a history of hip-hop set? Nars is coming to do like a PA at Soho House, right? So could you do a history of hip-hop set, get the crowd kind of warmed up and then introduce on Nars, he's gonna do a short set. You're opening for Nars now.

No, it's like a little private party thing. Do you know what I mean? It's our house to call this place in London. OK, well, if you want to frame it like that, you can do. Can I just say the difference between me and you? You're having to go at me about stuff. I'm sitting here fucking raving about the ups and downs of soup and you're opening for NARS. Yeah, but listen, listen, it's all going to come crashing down. So how to bet they do a nice soup?

I bet they do, yeah, I bet they do. Anyway, so, first of all, I've decided I'm not. Actually, can I say, I mean, one last thing, you know you do all your co-labs and stuff, I need to, your penguin jump is lovely, I need to stick, I should put that on to that, actually. Yeah. I mean, you post immediately when you have a nice pie, I've sent you a fucking charity hoodie.

and you can't be asked to fucking post about it. Have you arrived yesterday? Everyone else got those earlier. No they didn't. Secondly, only arrived yesterday. I've seen you post when you've still got the fucking steak and dripping around your chops.

No, but you know you do all your co-labs and stuff, you don't eat pizza, co-lab, all that. See if you can sort me out of soup, co-lab, with someone. That would be a Christmas present for me. I'd love to go soup, co-lab. This episode really has been a... Oh, fuck! You know what it could be? Because you've got Big Soup, Big Tom's Big Soup. Heinz, get on it, please.

And I'll keep the money to have this sort of calm or whatever. I think they're going to take this episode of The Wall for Now. And they're going to use it for students to just set an example of hyper fixation. Because now we can't go for 10 seconds now without you fucking talking about science. I think I've got quite a good face. I've got a good face with me, but I've got a good suit face.

Yeah. Can you do me a favor right now? I know this is a podcast and I'm often not having a go at you for doing visual things on an audio. But could you just, okay, so we'll probably, wait, wait, wait, wait. I haven't said what I'm asking you to do. I wanted to imagine in like a super advert, right? You got a bowl of soup in front of you. You sort of sit down.

Take a spoon of it and you can do a little bit of commentary over because obviously we're on a podcast. And then like your little kind of confirmation that you've had and enjoyed the soup after this and you can give it as much as you want. All right, you ready? Whenever you're ready. First of all, what flavour soup is this? Are we just... Oxtail? Oxtail, okay. Go for it. Whenever you're ready. Of course I love you. I've just had a really hard day at work. It's like nothing's going right for me.

How do you two have made you your favourite soup? Don't even soup consume me up today. That's alright. I would say it's flirting on the edges of giving us a window into an abusive relationship, if I'm being honest.

You've got to really push that. Yeah, you've got to push that this put upon woman. Well, if I did this at the end. OK, go on. Oh, God, the face. It's just super OK. Seems great. You're even better. Thank you. Yeah, I love you. I love you too.

Okay, a couple of notes if I was the marketing campaign. They're never going to let you say the soup's great, you're even better.

What would happen is you'd say that and they'd go, um, loved it, absolutely loved it. Just a quick one. Um, is it possible to sort of refrain from referring to your partners better than the soup? Because it is sort of, um, we are trying to sort of sell the idea that the soup is really wonderful. So for you to sort of say the soup's great, but, but, you know, obviously, obviously that's a partner. Okay. I'll tell you that. Okay. Okay. Here we go. Okay.

I love you. Thank you so much. You're amazing. But the soup's even better. Do you know what? I think that could actually work. If I looked at the soup and went, but you're even better. There you go. Hines, big soup.

Cut, that's a wrap, print it. That is, that's the advert right there. Nice. Oh, God. There we go. Anyway, sorry. So ask, can you come and do this and ask things? So go all right. So anyway, as you know, I don't know how much I've talked about it, I think I'm done with alcohol.

Last night, I'm not drinking at all. It's the first time I've done one of these, because the whole part point of doing this set is to get the crowd up and stuff like that. I got there straight after the show, and everyone's a little bit reserved. It's only just after 10 o'clock, do you know what I mean?

I don't know how this can be. Yes, it's very, you know, Soho House, right? So I start doing the thing. And shout Rob Percy, by the way, Martin's in Japan, so it's me and Rob Percy. Rob Percy, unbelievable, right? Great guy. It's an amazing thing. The party starts to warm up as we're doing it. We start getting the crowd into a good place, and obviously it's getting late as well, people are drinking and stuff.

So we get to a point where it starts like properly popping off, do you know what I mean? It's like, it's great. And then I'm waiting to like, we're waiting for Nars is obviously at Royal Albert Hall, he's probably having a few drinks or whatever, so we're just waiting for him to come over and do this thing, right? And by the way, Tom, anybody, I know you know this, but anybody that knows anything about me knows that I love Nars, right? This is like,

This is like a big thing. Opportunity. It's not an opportunity, but it's like a cool thing, right? Yeah. I'm not like, you're not trying to parlay into a career thing. I'm just like enjoying... What do you mean you're not to... Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

hold up, you very much segued yourself into being like a sort of hip hop sort of, I mean you're here comedy wise, you're top, you're top bill, right, you're headline, bye bye. You've now started at the bottom of a pile of what warming up and doing your own hip hop things, you've very much got your eye on the prize for becoming I think your hip hop.

like, sort of like, fucking A side as well. You wanna, you know, so that you're warming up for now. This is a big, yeah, you, that come on. I told you my dream about promoting soup. I know for a fact that you in your back pocket and segwaying at some point, there's gonna be a segue in and you will literally go like that and all of a sudden you'll go, I'm gonna shrink anything, it's got an amazing album out. We both know it's gonna happen at some point, right? And that's a part of this.

That wasn't a little... Wherefore I bring an album out or not? What you want anyone who's this is Nars going, hey, a great gig tonight, thank you to our house, a guy who works at our house. We thought it was amazing. Who's the kid who warmed up from me? He was fucking amazing. I appreciate if you didn't call me kid actually, I'm an adult. Oh, I didn't realize you spoke like that. You know, speak like that when you were doing your set.

Yeah, I know I'm putting a flush around. Yeah, how you doing? What's going on? You're strong as long as you're nice and ambitious and hip hop car? Yeah.

So basically, it got delayed a little bit because nobody could find out where Naz is, right? So Rob and I kind of like extending the set of weather because he sort of, and understandably say he's just done a show. Quite hard to do that, because if it's chronological.

So you start at the beginning of hip-hop, right? It's a journey of hip-hop. No, we were kind of just playing all of the big tunes, Jeremy. So jumping all over the place. So Nas arrives, and his security guard, or his tour manager, whatever. I don't know what the official job title is. This big American guy comes over, and he points at me. Exactly. Yeah, he points at me, and he says to Rob, who the fuck is that guy? All right. All right.

Okay. So in the moment, Rob is clearly more of the world than you are in the security guards opinion. He looks at Rob and goes, this guy is one of us. I don't know about this at all.

No, no. Well, it turns out that the guy was just, like, very angry that I was on stage talking on the mic, right? Like, so... Wow. So he calls me over, and he goes... He beckons you over. He beckons me over, off stage, by the way. Right. He calls me over, and he goes, where's Naz's mic?

And I go, I mean, obviously I'm not in charge of it. Are you using Nars' mic? No. Well, I mean, I was, but I'm, look, Tom, Tom, listen, this is a really bad story, right? Not a bad story. He calls me over and he goes, where's Nars' mic? And I'm not in charge of mics.

All right, I've walked on the society stage and somebody's gone, this is your mic for the evening, right? I've not gone over to, I've not broken a glass case that says Nazir Jones and started using that microphone. But you're a Scooby-Doo movie. Yeah, I've been given the microphone, right?

So, um, one of the guys, the one of the sound guys goes, oh, Romish is going to hand the mic to him and he goes, and he looks at me and he goes, this guy's been, this guy's been talking at his mic for like the last hour. There's no fucking way Nars is using this mic because you're going to have to get an alcohol wipe or some shit and get that cleaned up because he ain't, he ain't using this microphone. But you've got halitosis. Yeah, I'm stood right there, by the way, right? It's fucking, and then,

I go back on stage, he calls you back over, and he goes, let me tell you something. What's he doing, by the way, when you're on stage and he's just beckoning you over, like you're a dog? He's just at the sort, mate, it was mad, it was mad, right? This guy sounds an absolute helmet. Do you know what I'd love to have been there? It's just fucking, I'd be there as your tall manager, straight security guard, and go, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

Right, fucking you've got a problem, just talk to me, you're a big douchebag. Yeah, listen, I would love to see you do that, but I think what you would do is go... To be honest with you, the offer is a bit of a fucking melt as well. So I'm so sorry about this, it's an embarrassment to it. You know what, he's done well in comedy and now he thinks he could do something in an iPod, it's actually quite pathetic.

Anyway, he calls me back over and he goes, you're not introducing NARS. He goes, I don't need you. He goes, don't, he goes, get off the stage. Like, we don't need you on the stage. He goes, just, just come off. Even though you'd be doing longer than you should have for NARS. Yeah, yeah. And he just goes, just come off the stage. Just come off the stage. We don't need you. He goes, take the microphone. He goes to some, he goes to one of the guys. He needs to clean this microphone up before NARS is even going to touch it.

All right, and he goes, just don't go back on. He goes, you're done. He goes, you're done, all right? So go, okay. We're like, you know, whatever. And then apparently he goes up to Rob, and he goes, who the fuck was that? He doesn't know Rob either, by the way, but Rob's DJing for NARS, right? So Rob's staying on to play the tracks for NARS. So he goes, who the fuck was that guy? And Rob goes, I was a comedian from the UK, and he goes, yeah, he needs to get, like, I don't want him anywhere near the stage now. Like, just like...

Wow. So I go off into the crowd. It was mate. I actually know I feel sick. I feel so bad. I come off the stage. Nice and on to Raj have seen me be spoken to like this. I'm like fucking, I'm like

I've got a disease. They don't want to... You know when you're talking about the other... They can't even make eye contact with me. It's just rank, do you know what I mean? I walk off into the crowd to go and watch the set because I know NARS is about to come on.

And I got to the back and I just watch, I watch a set and the set is unbelievable. And somebody goes to me, oh, do you want to like, or can't I know what somebody goes I would like, you could go say it later. I said, listen, man, I am.

I think my involvement in this evening is over. Now, to give full information here, and to be fair, the guys at Sarah House were so apologetic, like they came over and they go, we're so sorry that happened, and we heard about that. You shouldn't be treated like that. But at the end of the day, it's not their fault. Do you know what I mean? This is one big fucking turds fault. It's kind of what an asshole.

Well, I've been reading this book recently, what's it called? Ego is the enemy, right? It's an incredible book, right? And when it happened,

There's part of me that obviously it was like, I'm not going to lie to you, it was quite an embarrassing scenario. It's wrong, wrong, wrong. I will, I've just, because I didn't expect that to be the end. I thought there was going to be a better book. That is one of the most horrible things I've ever, like I've had that happen to me at warm upsets where you're warming up for a quick, you know, I had that happen to me on loose women, which is arguably is lower, but, but.

But can I say, right? That is genuinely one of the most bullying, horrible things. Like, that is just vile behavior. It's awful conduct from him. And like, I don't know where you're going to go, ego thing. His ego needs to check himself, because that is just terrible. The reason I mention this book is because I've been reading it at the moment, and it's helped. I found it very, very useful in not getting upset about things, actually. It's helped me to not get annoyed about things or get, you know, it's been a really insightful little book, actually.

Anyway, in that moment, and I do think the reason I mentioned is because I think it's because I've been reading the book that I was able to put myself in that place, I was able to immediately go, this guy doesn't know who the hell I am. He's turned up and he's seen some guy, he didn't know this guy was gonna be, he's on the mic that my client is supposed to be using, right? They're telling me that he's gonna be using this mic. I don't know who the fuck this guy is, I didn't know he's gonna be on stage. And his job is to protect Niles and look after him, right?

If you think of it from that point of view, actually, you sort of go, OK, don't get me wrong. It wasn't pleasant for me, right? It was not pleasant. There's no getting around that. But at the end of the day, this guy is looking out for the person that he's been on tour with across the world. Can I just say I agree with you to an extent? Well, I do agree. But while I sort of do, I don't. Because I actually think the truth of it, right, is number one,

You get there, you turn to someone who's like running the event before you go over to you and do what you do and go, who's that guy on stage? He's doing a warm-up set to get the crowd pumping, because the crowd in here was pretty fucking, they were pretty muted and they're pumping now and that's can go on and it's a great room. He's really fucking set this room up for that sort of a great year. So number one, he could ask someone else, rather than standing on the stage and beckoning you over like you're a dog, right? Twice, right?

He could also, if he has been touring with NAS, come in and go, I'd assume that he's seen a few live shows in his life, so he could turn around and go, oh, well, this guy is actually fucking Mormon at the crack. It's not just a fucking guy who's like, oh, this crowd looks a bit fucking quiet. Let me just jump on stage and just fucking get NAS's DJ to play some hip-hop tracks, right? I think with someone who decides to NAS that the guy touring with him has got an idea of how fucking live performance works.

Right? And thirdly, when you have actually, as you always are, because, you know, you're a fucking great guy, have been quite amicable to his toxic and disgusting behavior, and giving him the mic that he's fucking bullied you to give him, right? After you've had to do an elongated fucking performance, because he's fucking guys late, and then had to, you fucking turn your tail and walk back into the crowd, where you should have been standing by the side of the stage watching Nas, who you fucking love, right? You've got, and felt so fucking embarrassed, you've had to go to the back,

He said it should at that point have gone, well maybe I'm being a bit of a **** here, but instead what he's done is turn to the guy that you're ****ing DJing for you and go, who the **** is that guy?

In all of that stuff, this guy is a toxic piece of shit. That, by the way, can I say, is everything that is wrong with our industry in one person. When you talk about ego, his ego is, in fact, because he's a talentless fucking drone, who fucking lurks around more famous, more talented people, and he literally just walks around bullying.

and fucking being vile to people. And no one pulls you up on it. Well, do you know what? Two things I thought is one, I didn't react to him with it. I just thought, do you know what it is, what it is? At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. But the other thing I thought was, I was thinking about going up to him after this and going, can I recommend the ego is the enemy? I think you'll find it quite a useful little read in your ongoing life. He would have, by the way, turned around and gone, hey, fucking check yourself, man.

Do you know one thing I would say? I respect you massively because I'd never have said anything to me that I'd have been, might have actually been the same, but I would never have stayed for a massive gig. I'd have been so wounded like a pathetic bird. I'd have gone home and got myself a big soup.

Yeah. But actually, what happened was, I was sort of gutted because I'd sort of been on stage. Well, so you didn't get to meet Ned's and you've done this massive fade before. No, but after that, I just thought, I can't. I don't even want to. Of course you do, because you've been bullied. Yeah. But also, what I would say, just qualify that, is I don't really like meeting people on that anyway. Not because... Because there's so many heroes, yeah. Yeah, yeah, all of that. So, yeah, it was like... Now, as you said, it was great. But, yeah, it was just a bit of a...

It's a horrible story. Another thing that happened, by the way, is in keeping with like, invite new mates to stuff, right? I got four or five of my friend's guest list, right, who are massive nice friends. Oh my God, you have friends there when that happened.

Yeah. Yeah. And one of them comes, one of them, by the way, beckons me over. I'm on stage, by the way, Tom, with a mic, right? With Nazis. What is going on with people beckoning you over? He beckons me over. He always said to me, this is a mate of mine that I've guest-listed into the venue. He goes to me, the cloakroom's full. And I go, OK. And then he goes, can you take my coat? What?

I've seen, I've only, I've not been to, because I've not been invited to, but I've seen a lot of footage of you doing these, right? I've spoken to Martin about them, I've spoken to Graz about them. They're very high energy affairs, they're like really quite incredible to, any, I'd say to anyone if you can see them and you should watch. It's not like, I mean, it would be awful to stand up, but, but the idea that your people are in a play, that's by the way, that's,

That's when you're in a smaller room than, like, yeah, it's quite an informal, chilled room. Yeah. I mean, what's happened is, Tom, is I'm going from watching NARS and sort of doing a set before he comes on to, in quick succession, being told to take someone's coat and then get the fuck off stage. I mean, it was like... By the way, I will say this. If it's the tool manager,

The only bit of defence I have for him is if he's watching you from the side of the stage and you're now taking people's coats and putting them behind a detail, he's like, what the fuck is this guy doing? In my defence, I didn't take the cut. I did say to my friend, there's no cloakroom back here. I don't know why you've called me out there to take your coat. Are you mad?

And he looked so incredulous at me, like I said something. Can I say, by the way, I've had a jacket taken from so how? Oh. Oh. So, yeah, I was doing a gig there. Shout out Phil Wayne, he was also on the bill. No, I'm so Phil Wayne to watch out. Oh, shit, I was about to do that joke. It's a shame.

But it felt like walking around a massive jacket. It was like a kid out of big. I had no idea that Phil Wang was such a big stony fan. Phil Wang was so nice and proper. Eight sizes too big for him. Actually Phil Wang's got a big chap. He's about your size and he feels like. He's about your size and he feels like a road man, awesome binger. A massive coat.

But I put my jacket on the back of the chair to watch Phil. In the crowd. Yeah, in the crowd, because I'd gone to, I'd done my bit set and I went to watch Phil. And I put my jacket on the chair. I think Michelle the Swat was also on. Yeah, it's in for a long while ago. Actually, yeah.

Trying to think he was compare- Anyhow, I come back to the chair because otherwise I won't understand the jacket part of this story. I go back, I'm trying to really noise me. I'm usually pretty good. I can't remember for the laugh when he was comparing. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. And I come back to the chair and my jacket's gone. So... How long did you left it unattended for?

Long enough for Phil Wayne to have done his set, the compare to come out, call or break me to run backstage and tell Phil Wayne how much I enjoyed his set. Leaving the coat, so you hadn't checked for that. Leaving the coat. Yeah, but I think I'm in a fucking members club, no one's going to take a jacket. No, I get it, I get it. No, listen, I'm not putting the blame on it. So, the adulation, I'm there with Phil Wayne, I'm telling Phil Wayne, fucking smashed it, really fucking enjoyed it. Great gig, really fucking great, you know. And then, uh,

Go back to what you have his headline in, again, can't remember. And, you know, you've certainly had a great introduction of Phil Wang. Enjoy Phil Wang's conversation. As always, I'll get back to the table. Boom. Do you want to go? Do you want to go for a drink, Phil? A lot of stuff. Phil, you don't focus your cup of soup, do you, Phil? Let me just go grab my coat. Let me just grab my coat. Oh, you look, I'll fuck my life. Oh, no. Oh, no.

Phil didn't join, Phil didn't join the search bar, he just slipped off. Phil didn't join his mate, Phil won an agent to a farmer jacket. This guy, I think we dodged a bullet here, his silly old ****** got his coat in it. Let's get the **** out of it. We'll go and go back to his bed, sit, to drink big soup. Just heckling you as he walks out. Maybe you can warm yourself up with a bit of ox salad to out. See you later.

Michelle Diswart did help in the search for the jacket. Oh, that's nice. It should be in a quite a few years. It's difficult in those situations because you're obviously very upset about your coat, but you've also got to be socially nice to the people that sort of... Yeah, but I knew Michelle would just want a lot better. I don't think that I did feel wang, feel wang. I was kind of fanboying over a bit, and he didn't know me as well. So it's a bit for him to feel to have sort of someone who's got a big sort of B.O. Latin arm, wrap around, feel wang, turn around, how amazing he is that he'd been asked if he could go around.

Yeah, I met Tom Davis up and I was like, well, it's all right. I mean, look, he did his gig and it was fine. It's, you know, he's doing some nice stuff. And then I went on and, you know, I've said a better gig than Tom. And then I went backstage and Tom came over and he was very, like, really effusive about the set and stuff. It's really nice guy. And then he went off for a little bit. He sort of made a suggestion that we should go for a drink. I immediately started to panic, obviously, because he's known in the industry for doing this, sort of latching on like a horrible fucking barn.

I'm feeling weird that he didn't suggest a party, he suggested it'd go to get some soups that way. Yeah, and then he said maybe like if we see the night goes on maybe we could find a hotel and not sleep over whatever so that we don't have to bring it to an end. And then he came back in about 10 minutes later and he was just sort of crying. No, no, no, Phil was leaving, Phil was walking, and I grabbed his arm and said, Phil, my jacket, mate, my jacket.

He's actually, by the way, listen, I don't know what you say, what you say is true. No, I can't remember. Yeah, but no, it's a true story. Yeah, I know that, but you didn't grab him and go my jacket, my jacket, did you? No, we were both sort of leaving and I went, my fucking jacket mate, I can't find my jacket. And he had another gig. To be fair to you, another gig, he was done with you, another gig. And then Michelle came out and Michelle, Michelle, by the way, I adore Michelle. Michelle was very much, it was a good cutback cop. She was starting to sort of like, yeah.

She went in. She was, yeah. Let's say that's not, you know, that's not so house as full, is it? That's not so house. Well, it's one of the members, folks. Yeah.

Okay, do you want to do some emails? We've done emails for ages, I feel bad. I think you're going to like some of these. This is from the Peaceful Pigeon. Oh, nice. I love it when I give a straight away. I feel at home with this person. Now, Tom, do you remember we were talking about the World Food Isle? Yeah, very much. You're talking about how you sort of see going to the World Food Isle as sort of a substitute for actually traveling to these countries.

Yeah. And you wondered in your sort of, in your classic sort of Tom White about... Yeah, because I haven't... I'd say yes, one thing. I might actually call my next tour this. I have a sense of wonder. Okay. I mean, I've already russled Howard about it, but yeah, that sounds good. Okay, so... Is that what his tour's called at the moment? Well, he did his podcast called Wonder Box, isn't it? I mean, that's no wonder.

Don't get all arse about it because he's thought about it. I'm just saying Russell's baked me to it. Anyway, so you wondered if they were the reverse is true. Hi guys, I'm originally from Reading but I live in Prague.

Wow. That's not the end of the email, by the way. You don't have to give a reaction yet. Tom might be interested to know that my local supermarket, and I don't live in a touristy or expaty area, has a world food aisle that does have British products.

Alongside your curry paste, sushi kits and taco seasoning, et cetera, you will find Marmite, Iron Brew, Degestives, PG Tips and more. Unfortunately, the selection has taken a hammering since Brexit, so I'm desperately craving chicken and mushroom pot noodles and HP sauce these days. But that is not all. This will really blow your minds.

Every few months, little will have an English week in all of their shops nationwide, where they sell bacon, cheddar, salt and vinegar crisps, shortbread, and their own brand of brown sauce and other condiments. So you can take pride in the fact that there are people all over the Czech Republic enjoying the finest British cuisine in their homes. All the best love the podcast. Peaceful pigeon. Right. Peaceful pigeon. Shout out. That's incredible. Isn't it? That's really, I'm proud about that.

Oh yeah. Also about, I'd say, pot noodles, yeah, pot noodles was a stable bit of my diet alongside big soups for a long time. Yeah. Didn't you just live exclusively at pot noodle for about 15 years in the 2000s? No, no, no. It was from 07 to 07. Because I do still think that that's one of my, I think us and the Scandinavians are kings of the bacon.

I've talked about this before, the crappy bacon that you get in a lot of other countries. It's one thing I'm always proud of. I know that thin, horrible bacon. It's almost like it's not fit to be in a frying pan. Our bacon I'm proud of, you know? Yeah, no good for you, man. Okay. That's a nice thing. You know what, set me up this. That actually, I tell you what, that email has given me the warmth that usually only, it's touched bits of me that only usually a cup of soup could be. Okay. Very good. Very, very good.

Okay, this is from, oh wow, this is a big shell. Wow, okay. This is from the Wolf 2.0. Wow! I thought that would be your reaction. Do Wolf, Al Swan and Kat, I have a dilemma only you guys can help with, I think it's unlikely. I'm an amazing girl traveling Southeast Asia at the start of the year. Okay, for kind of first sake, you're not Wolf 2.0. This is the case.

Yeah, because I've got to travel in Southeast Asia is walking down the foreign food aisle. Yeah, Southeast Asia hadn't meeting a girl. It's just a very wolfy to me. OK, I bet an amazing girl traveling Southeast Asia at the start of the year, our romance blossomed and we travelled for four months together and fell in love. She introduced me to the animal pack and we listened to it together on our travel days and had our own private jokes relating to the podcast.

Oh, here we go, this makes sense. We started referring to ourselves as the wolf and owl, and saying that we love each other to our bones. Wow! I don't know, this is so nice. Oh, that's nice. This is so nice. Since returning home, we've continued the romance, but I soon realized we were very much in different stages of our lives. The owl 2.0 is 24, and very much still in a partying phase. I'm 29, and I'm very much more settled and focused on my career.

By therefore, despite loving her very much, reluctantly ended the relationship recently. Oh, no. Oh, no. Yeah. Actually, this has got quite a lot of parallels between the actual... Well, no. In a sense, in this situation, I suppose, it's here, because you are the owl. You like part, and even though you are, like, two or three years older than me, but you are still quiet. No, no, no, no. Okay, first of all, I'm not two or three years older than you. Second of all,

You've got it in reverse. The Wolf 2.0 is older than the Al 2.0 in this story. Yeah, but that's what I mean. But apart from that, the Al likes partying, you'd love partying. The Wolf is very chill and likes to be at home. Yeah, the Wolf is focused on the career, might have to end the relationship. That feels a lot like what's going to happen with us.

It's my favourite thing in the world. You are my human soup. Oh god, that's disgusting. That's how I describe a bath, actually. I'd love to bathe in a nice warm soup and eat the soup as you're in a bath. Yeah, yeah. What a disgusting image. Just cat watching as you come in with 150 cans of oxtail.

Excuse me, darling. We're going to need all the pens in the house on the hobs now. I'm 29. I'm 29 and very much more certain folks. Okay. I didn't want to hold her back in this phase of her life. I hope we could be together in the future at the expense of some upset now. It's very noble of you. Very wolf thing to do. Yes. As some would say, I digress. My question is, I bought tickets to your Christmas live show. It's a surprise for her.

Do you think I should still invite her despite her being very hurt at me ending the relationship and at risk of confusing the situation further? I can't imagine attending with anyone but her, but want to make sure I'm doing the right thing. We'd appreciate the wolf and our expert opinion. Thank you so much for bringing so much joy to our lives, you sweet, sweet souls. The wolf 2.0. So, quite a tricky one then. Yo, my canine brother. Firstly,

Well, I will say that this is actually a very, very sweet email, but also kind of makes me feel sort of sad. I've been, well, I wrote show about it, but I've been the person that's been finished with and meant many a time for many a reason, but also because people didn't think that I am.

I was ready to settle down and so don't speak or that they thought I was more that I was probably spending too much time in the pub. Slightly darker. So an answer to your question. Number one, I think it's a beautiful thing and it makes me very happy. It always does when people ever mention that they listen to this podcast and

But there's a part of me that, and I don't know what, there's a part of me, and I don't want, I agree back giving someone full. So I think that the very mere thing, number one that you've written to the podcast with the idea, we might read this out and that she might listen to it, hopefully, yeah.

both days, the fact that then she's going to hear the fact that you've said what you said. I think there is kind of, maybe there is some sort of unfinished business. I think it sounds like you had an amazing time and I've like most people have had times in my life where circumstance and you've had a relationship that's incredible and then your normality kicks back in and you're a little bit like, oh, this isn't quite what it was, but I will say that it seems to me that

even if you can just get a friendship out of this, because you've shared an amazing amount of memories you clearly get on, you have a laugh together, and maybe sort of the olive branch of saying that, it'll be lovely to hang out and come to the Christmas show together, and even if that is just a friendship that gets built from this amazing time together. If I'm going to be really honest, there's relationships in my life that I've had that

ended or, and usually again ended with someone else ending them. But even the ones that I did, I sort of wish sometimes that I'd sort of been a bit more adult in myself or, you know,

realise that the things that you share with people, if they end quite amicably, is the happy memories that you've shared and that sometimes it's worth just being like, you know, that was a lovely thing.

you know, being able to just sort of chat and reminisce and stuff, it's stuff that almost chunks of your life can go missing. And like, you know, like films that you see that you can't really remember, discuss anymore. And because you sort of let those bits go and actually sort of trying to sort of end any relationship with a positive is a good thing. So I'd reach out, you know, if you're conscious about confusing the matter, I'd sort of make that clear in itself that,

You know, it's very much a friendship and that you miss that person for being a positive of your life. You know, it's hard to find positive and I know Romesh is making light of things, but you know, in this podcast and just him, no, no, no, but like, you know, you're joking about this book, but it, you know, the thought of my life with Romesh, not in it is a thought I'd actually quite tear even to say about it, you know,

He's a positive person and I think when you get older in life and you've never gated through a lot of dickheads, it's when you find people that make you feel good about yourself and a bit better about the world. Hold on to them. That's beautiful, Tom. That's really beautiful. I mean it, every word, my brother.

OK, it's very difficult to properly give you advice on this. But what I would say is, I don't think it's a bad thing.

Okay, whenever anybody explains a breakup, human nature is that you naturally downplay what you might have done. Do you know what you might have like? And I'm not saying you miss a point on what's happened. But what I can take from what you've said, you know, from reading in between the lines, is that she is very upset about this.

And it is always very upsetting if you think you're in a good place to somebody, and they decide that they don't want to be with you for whatever reason. And actually, I can imagine it's almost slightly trickier for the reason that you've given, because what you've said is that you're in different stages of your life, and she's probably thinking, well,

I think we can still work through that, and you're saying no we can't. And when a rejection is, and particularly when you're really, really into somebody, or in love with somebody, I don't know how far down that road you went.

but it's very difficult to take that hurt. It's really upsetting. So I guess what I'm trying to say is I don't think it's wrong to invite her, but I don't think you should expect anything from her in terms of accepting that invitation. I think

It's very, very difficult, as I said, to be broken up with. And I think actually weird, it's more difficult to be broken up with the reasons that you've broken up, because I imagine she's probably thinking, let's please try and make this work. And you've said, no, I don't think so. And that's fair. That's well within your right to do that. But at the same time, you just have to respect their feelings on that. So I would say to you, look,

As Tom said, it would be wonderful if this could be if the wolf for now live show could be the first stepping stone into you forming whatever the new look of the new framework of your relationship might be it'd be incredible if you could achieve that. But I just want to caveat that with saying if she says no.

just understand that that's coming from, you know, that's not necessarily coming from a bad place. That's coming from a place of her feeling very, very hurt. And, you know, don't, you know, don't, I guess, lower your expectations in a way, Jim. I mean, it wouldn't surprise me. She said, I'd rather not do that because actually the wolf now is like supercharged in your relationship. And it's, you know, it might be something that she wants a break from. So there you go. Good luck to you. I'm sorry that you're having a lot of time. Lovely advice.

Okay, just a quick one here. Dear Wolfenau, just to touch on the premature death of sloth, this is because we, oh, by the way, I made a real cock up. Do you know what I'm about to say? Yeah, I got quite a few people message me about it.

So, Tom mentioned the fact that Josh Brolin was in the Goonies, and I said, I wasn't he one of the Santini's. In a black, basically, because I didn't know. I was trying to sort of... A lot of people messaged me saying, it's from even seeing the Goonies. Yeah, I mean, look, I have seen the Goonies. If I hadn't seen the Goonies, it's not the biggest slam I've ever received.

But no, yeah. I love the idea, by the way, of that big security guard. That's his security guard, someone going, who's that guy? That's Rama Shrek. What, the guy who's not even seen the Goonies? The guy that thinks is a Santini's? That fucking asshole? What, the guy who thought just rolling was one of the fucking Santini's? That slob? Yeah. So anyway, after the podcast went out, somebody pointed out to me.

Quite nicely, by the way, it wasn't in a horrible way, that it was actually the fratellis, not the centre. So apologies for that. Look, factually, as you know, we play very fast and loose with the truth on this podcast. We're much like the Trump campaign. But I want to apologise for any upset we caused. I have seen the Goonies numerous times.

I think what you should do as almost a beautiful punishment is, I know you're off to the cinema tonight, but maybe when you get back to the cinema, you get an extra popcorn, get back.

hit that big sofa of yours with the boys, cuddle fest, and watch the goonies. Yeah, maybe I might do that. I might do that by way of an apology in making right some of the wrongs that I've committed. I apologize, I deeply, deeply apologize. So we talked about sloth, and then we looked up the actor, and we found out that he'd passed away, like a few years after the goonies. Dear Wolfenau, just in touch on the premature death of sloth, he actually died of an opioid overdose.

And then he's going to say, so the wolf doesn't need to worry. It's still quite sad. It's still quite sad. By the way, opioid, I wonder if that was painkillers because of his body hurting. Yeah, possibly. And I think, you know, in keeping with what we've done previously about the gun is let's just speculate about the man's death, shall we? With that in real facts. OK. That could be a part. I could play the act to play sloth. I've got a sad part.

Yeah, that would be, yeah. Yeah. Listen, we're always looking for career opportunities, aren't we? So, um, why not try and take advantage of a guy's premature death? It makes sense. That's all classy. Um, OK, this email is rough. He's sick. Email.

It's from Motherhead, OK? And Motherhead says... It's very bird-aweed. It's a very bird-y sort of... You've had a pigeon, we've had a head, nice. Yeah, absolutely right. The last team I saw is from the anxious giraffe, I should say. OK, OK.

I wasn't saying it to undermine you. I just said, I wanted to get credit to them. We've had two birds. There's two for four. Yeah, no, no, I wasn't. Let me be clear. I wasn't trying to undermine what you were saying. It has been. It has been birdie. Yeah. I wanted to email in and say, I think your podcast is great. I've listened for ages.

If you had to always wear dungarees, always wear crocs without socks underneath, which would you pick? Aside from this item, you can wear whatever you want. I became a mommy year and a half ago. I absolutely love it. Now I'm settling into things more. I'm starting to think about my future. I've always loved photography as a hobby, but there's two nerves to take the leak professionally.

I want my son to... So there's two elements to this. I want my son to grow up knowing it's never too late to have a go at something you've always wanted to do, and I'd love for him to see me succeed. I'm going to shoot my shot here and ask if I could photograph the wolf for now, perhaps at a gig, either together or separately. I'm happy to travel and would really, really appreciate the opportunity. Thank you, mother hen. Okay, so there's two bits to that.

Tom, you've sort of borrowed your face into your top there. You don't have to do some thinking and also, yeah. I mean, there's a lot of self deliberation when I listen to all these emails. I don't just listen, I soak them in. Okay. Firstly, that's an easy one for me. It's probably the easiest question I've ever had. Crop tool data. Okay.

dungarees can be I'm not that's what it's a look I've tried and

very quickly knowing that dungarees don't work for me. Number one, because they never make dungarees for my body shape. My legs aren't that long, obviously, but it's my upper half that's longer. So what happens is I end up, can't see just walking around with it like a new snuggle. You need more dungare and less re, really, don't you proportionally? Yeah, yeah. I need a set of dungarees with a really long dungare, please.

Dungarees, can I say, if anything, when you come to a guy with my size, it needs to be spoke and carefully manufactured. Otherwise, I just will end up walking around, like I'm being cut slowly, sort of like, kind of too. Nobody wants to see an adult baby bopping around, don't they? No, I love crocs. I've got the Eddie Croc. I love the Eddie Croc. It's a firm friend of mine. It's a firm friend of mine. In fact, I'm wearing them now.

Addie Crocs are not Crocs, are they? That's kind of a thing. Yeah, but they're in the Crocs. So, yeah, I could easily make that leap from Crocwise to another Croc yourself from. Well, I find myself with a foot in both campsite because, one, Theo and Charlie are both the proud owners of Crocs now. Right.

And they're both rocking them pretty beautifully, I've got to say. And it's now called me to decide that I'm going to dabble into the world. I'm going to buy a pair of crocs, I think. They look comfortable. I think they'd be perfect for a little trip to the cinema, like I'm going on later on today. Do you know what I mean? Throw in a pair of crocs head over there. So I'm very close to pulling the trigger on a pair of crocs. Equally,

When Rob and I did Rob and Romish versus K-pop, we were in Korea, South Korea, and we were looking at different outfits to wear for our performance. And in amongst those outfits was a set of dungarees. I asked to keep the dungarees so that

so that I could maybe wear them when I got home. In real life. Yeah. They are one of those garments, and I don't know how many garments you've got like this, where I've repeatedly put them on as I'm about to leave the house and then thought better off it before I've walked out the door. Yeah, I've got a number of things like that. Yeah. Yeah. It's a horrible thing where like, it's not horrible. That's a massive exaggeration. But you know the thing where you sort of go, do you know what? I'm just going to fuck it.

Do you know what I mean? I'm tired of being pigeonholed. I'm going to wear this. This is a bit bright, or it's a bit different, but I'm going to wear it. You put it on, you look in the mirror, and you think, can I face going outside? And people... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think you should do it, because yeah, I think you can carry off a pair of dungarees. I don't think I can. In fact, I've discussed... Could I also say, by my worry about me wearing dungarees, you know the beginning of Men in Black?

Look at that farmer. That's what I think I'd look like. The guy who the aliens get inside his body and he's sort of good. It's a danger for all of us. Okay. Second part of the question. Second part. Yeah, motherhead. You know, the biggest thing that you can give your kid, I think, is try and say it and failing and it not working. The thing that

like I feel that you know in life is that we're everyone's very conscious of of

the success. And I've talked about this a lot on this podcast and live is there talks a lot about your success. Yeah. Yeah. No, but if the failures are the things that have made the success is the failures of the, like in sitting here now, the amount of times that I've tried things that haven't worked. And I was constantly trying to do that through my whole life thinking anyway, I could sort of get that little bit

head in life, anything I could try to sort of, because, you know, and I still very much feel like I'm likely, you know, a loser or someone who constantly feels that Sadie's isn't really ever particularly scares me because I think I've failed at more things that I'm ever going to succeed at, you know.

from different sporting endeavors or whatever I've tried. So I actually think showing your child that actually that being a failure isn't some big scary boogie man, it's just a point of life and a point of sort of trying to become a bit more of a rounded human being and also

just going for something and changing your arm. So I can say that if I don't know where you're based, but if you want to come let's say on the 3rd of December and we can hook you up with the team and want to come and take some photos there, that'd be great. You know, maybe it would like to be lovely to get a, what I'd love actually is a real nice fur, for my, for my wall. It's a real like, you know, like a posed step-brother type picture of me and Ron? Yeah. Like a real posed one.

But we haven't really got one of those. That'd be nice. So let's show it short. You've hit your target. Mum's got your email, so we'll link it up or we'll link you up with the team. And it would be great to have you along to take those steals. And also in many ways. And if you have a dream, you've got to have a dream. If you don't have a dream, you've got to have a dream how you can have a dream come true. And that is

A beautiful quote I'm gonna give you right there. And can I just say also, in terms of photography, thank you for providing us with a little snapshot of the Wolf and Owl podcast dynamic, which is where Tom takes the credit for making the promise and I have to do all the admin. So, there you go. Rob's here, come on. Everyone's begging it, brother. I've put the fishing line in the water. Let's fucking pull out some advice.

Yeah. Okay. Well, look, good luck, mother hen. You're welcome to come to this thing and do some photos. We'll sort it out. 3rd of December, Ali Patley, if you fancy it, we'll sort it out. Well, look, Tom, that is... Well... That is... Been a nice one, brother. It brings us to the close of this. And, you know, often when we do these very early morning ones,

It's slightly nervous, so we're not going to be in full tilt. And I think we've proven that we're not. But it's been a... You know what? The ice bath was worth in this morning. I thought the ice bath kicked in just at the right time. You've been really on some really wonderful form, so well done. Can I just say it would be... I wanted to shout out a small business. Yeah, please do.

And welcome to our, so let's play the jingling for the regular feature of Shoutout's new business. No, but I've had my head turned and my heart fell up by a amazing sandwich shop called Paul Roth and Son. Is that the one with you and not for the other day that you play? Yeah, it's always got a cue. It's been a place about the hoodie.

Venus is about 1900. This isn't a net because they don't need that. It's a beautiful, beautiful place where you can get sandwiches, have any elk, rum. They do great vegan sandwiches. They do a lovely vegan soup. The soups are beautifully crafted. It's a family-run business. Paul Roth and son. Google it if you fancy a sandwich or just fancy some wholesome bit of cake or a sort of friendly smile and a bit of decency.

Yeah, it's a perfect winter shop. And I bet it's even amazing in the summer. Yeah, I imagine it is. So there you go. So shout, Paul, Paul Worthenzer. Yeah, thank you. Alright, Tommy, is that instead of your closure, have you got a closure for us as well? No, no, let's do a closure. Words to feed me.

But sometimes they pick me up. Sometimes I'm struggling for a word as you know friends. Sometimes your vocabulary just loses you. Sometimes when you bump into a stranger and go to say hey sorry but that was your fault you actually just go bright red and scuffle down the street. Sometimes the things in which you mean to say come up garbles.

and misled misleading the following which you have circumstance with. The truth is words can be painful, words can be wrong, words can be harsh. But a bit of that, words can be meaningful. They can be helpful. They can be the thing that turns one man's day or a lady's day into something that puts a smile on their face. Hey, thanks friend. That's okay. No, thank you, really. You just made my day.

That person goes away with a smile and I guess that's what we can do in life. So when you pick your words for your mouth, your brain, your soul and the fate of the end you listen within you, make sure those words are decent and true. And if you shoot at something across the room, make sure it's, hey Brian, you're a good guy or Claire, you're amazing. Don't step on bad words. They let them fly from your tongue.

unless the person really deserves it, like a man standing on the side of a stage, bullying a guy who's just ripped a hip-hop gig, and in that case, you can turn around and say, hey, you're

be a bit more decent friend. That's very good, that's very good. Do you mind if I do a quick plug for this hoodie? Yeah, I in association with original penguin have brought a hoodie, all the proceeds of which go to calm. So if you just Google Romish Penguin, it's got like a little

It's a nicer day. Tom's got one, he's not pasting it. It's very, very nice. It's very well made. I've got to say, the little logo is very, very cool. Me and Catherine were both actually, I was knocked sideways just the quality of it. I'm going to wear it. I'm not going this morning because I've got out the cold plunge. I'm wearing my usual cold plunge attire. I don't want that to fall in. It's a really nice hoodie. So I'm thinking I'm going to sort of

Yeah, little jacket vibe this week. I'll wear it this week. I'll do a shout out. Little jacket to cover up the logo. So all the price, 100% of the profits go to calm. So, you know, if you want it, but you don't have to. And while we're talking about collabs and stuff, Heinz, Baxter's, any other soup brands you know? Please get in touch. Please get in touch. We've Tom Davis specifically. All rubbish, because you might know rubbish more than me. Yeah, but I don't want the soup collab.

Yeah, well, flow, maybe flow. This is something you should be endeavoring into. So yeah. Yeah. Or maybe our favourite little kid, Antonio, could look into it for us. Yeah. Actually, Antonio, this is one for you, kid. Get stuck into that. Yeah. Got it to all the big suit brands. Yeah. Okay. Great.

Um, it's only really bachelors and hinds, isn't there? There's more than that. There's loads. I mean, there's loads. Isn't there one like cutting them or something? I don't know. Big soup, brands, UK. It's just Campbell's. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Campbell's. Yeah. Okay. I had to Google that by the way. Okay. So, good.

JT, could you play us out with a little bit of nah? So I've got a happy memory of him. Yeah. Could you play? It ain't hard to tell. Take it from the classical millmatic. Thank you so much, guys, for listening. But that song is hard to tell that your tour manager is an absolute ****. Thank you so much, guys. We'll see you next time. From the wolf. Lance. We love you. Thank you. Bless you, guys.

I excel, then propel. The mic is contacted, I attract clientele. My mic check is like a death breathing, a sniper's breath. I exhale, the y'all will smoke a Buddha through righteous steps deep like the shining. Sparkle like a diamond sneaker, Uzi on the island, and my army jacket lining hit the earth like a comet invasion.

This is like the Afro-situation Half-man, half-amazing Cause in my physical I can't express through song Dilly, stress like Motrin, then extend strong I drink my wet wit, medusa give a shotgun's an L From the split that I lived in and held It ain't hard to tell

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