Prepping 2.0 315 – Why Did You Start Prepping? (Pt 2 of 2)
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November 20, 2024
TLDR: In Episode 315, guests share reasons for starting prepping, continuing from part 1. Exclusive After Show discussion available for Patreon subscribers.
In this episode of Prepping 2.0, co-hosts Glenn Tate and Shelby Gallagher continue their engaging discussion on the motivations behind why people begin prepping. They share insights and responses from Patreon supporters, exploring diverse reasons for adopting a preparedness lifestyle.
Key Takeaways from Listener Responses
Understanding the Motivations
- Each listener shared unique experiences that prompted them to start prepping, highlighting a common thread that resonates with many in the prepping community:
- Awareness of Fragility: Glen speaks about witnessing the fragility of the American supply chain and its impact on food availability, revealing how one supermarket's reliance on just-in-time inventory sparked his prepping journey.
- Personal Experiences: For some, like Bob Rackham, a personal encounter with a severe ice storm underscored their lack of preparation and ignited a desire to change.
- Societal Observations: Many found motivation through a growing awareness of societal instability, leading to a thoughtful approach to personal preparedness.
Common Themes That Emerged
- Listeners reported that their motivations evolved as they faced new challenges in life, emphasizing the importance of being prepared not just for natural disasters but also for societal shifts. Key themes included:
- Family Responsibilities: Supporters emphasized increased responsibility towards family welfare as a strong motivator for prepping.
- Psychological Benefits: Many discussed how prepping provided them peace of mind amidst chaotic global events, fostering a sense of control over their circumstances.
- Community and Support: Engaging with a community of preppers has been instrumental in their journeys, providing camaraderie and shared knowledge.
Practical Applications of Prepping
- During the episode, practical insights were presented on prepping essentials:
- Water and Food Storage: Glenn stressed the importance of comprehensive water and food preps, particularly in light of recent natural disasters.
- Emergency Equipment: Investing in items like generators and water filters was highlighted to ensure readiness for extended power outages and militia disruptions.
- Growing Awareness of Natural Disasters: The conversation acknowledged the unpredictable nature of climate-related events, urging listeners to remain proactive in their preparedness measures.
Expanding Perspectives Through Shared Experiences
- Listeners shared how their prepping experiences not only prepared them but also led to personal growth. For instance:
- Transformational Journey: Matt Williams recounted how his initial interest in guns evolved into a deeper understanding of self-reliance, leading to meaningful connections with others in the community.
- Resilience Building: Experiences like Bob’s long power outage taught important lessons about adaptability and the necessity of planning ahead.
- These experiences underline the value of being part of a broader prepping community, offering support and diverse perspectives on preparedness.
Balance in Prepping
- A significant aspect of the discussion revolved around finding balance in prepping. Both hosts emphasized that while preparing is crucial, it should not overshadow daily life or well-being:
- Avoiding Overemphasis on Prepping: They cautioned against letting the pursuit of preparedness dominate one’s life, advocating for a lifestyle that embraces living fully while planning for potential disruptions.
- Practical Living: Encouraging simplicity and enjoyment in life, the hosts mentioned that prepping should be integrated naturally, not as an obsession.
Final Thoughts
- The conversation revealed that whether starting due to personal, societal, or environmental reasons, prepping is fundamentally about empowerment, resilience, and a proactive lifestyle. Glenn Tate and Shelby Gallagher remind us that preparedness can lead to enhanced personal control and community connection, enriching lives as we prepare for uncertainties.
Closing Quotes
- The hosts wrapped up the episode with Benjamin Franklin’s wisdom: "Failing to prepare is preparing to fail." This encapsulates the crux of the prepping philosophy, urging listeners to stay informed and prepared.
For those who want to delve deeper into prepping and understand why it matters, be sure to catch both parts of this enlightening discussion!
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This week on Prepping 2.0. Okay, you can... I can hate something and want to have it around. This is true. Like your cats? This is... Oh! Yes! When disaster strikes, will you be prepared? This is Prepping 2.0, with authors and prepping experts, Glenn Tate and Shelby Gallagher. Online at prepping2-0.com. Get ready, Prepping 2.0 coming in 3, 2, 1,
Welcome, everyone. This is Shelby Gallagher over here at Prepping 2.0, joined by my co-host on the show and co-host in my Glen Tate. You can learn a lot about a topic by asking people why they're doing something. And that's what we do in this show in which Patreons answer that question, and we give you our comments. And as always, remember, the only thing harder than planning for a disaster is explaining why you didn't. Hey, guess what we have to do now? Um, I don't know.
Hall water. That's no fun. Why are we hauling water? We're hauling water because a couple of the well, I should say, frost freeze on our property, and we have multiple. Two of them are not currently working, which means we have to haul water in buckets. That's no fun. Why are we hauling water in buckets? Because we have horses now. We have borrowed horses, I should say. Yeah. We're getting paid to let horses hang out at our place. We're being paid to haul water.
You know what it is? Remember Kato Kalen from O.J. Simpson? Yeah, and the house guest. The house guest. No, not the riots, but yes, go ahead. The murders, allegedly. Anyway, Kato Kalen was a house guest. He was a professional house guest. Yes, he was.
That's what we are. We're getting paid. Well, if the analogy breaks down, exactly, but it's like we're getting paid for doing nothing. But going back to the original point I made for being paid to a pot of water, water is so important, including when you have pets, when you have humans. And I'm going to tell you this. Maybe Kato Kalen stay at your house. He gets thirsty. Not happening.
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Bosnian lists, top 100 things that disappear first, number 87. Cots and inflatable mattresses. Glenn, what are your thoughts on cots and inflatable mattresses? Well, I'm glad you asked, even though you didn't. Well, at some level, you did, because you're listening to this show. But, cots, love them. I love GI army cots. They are incredibly comfortable. Now, I haven't had to sleep on one for an extended period of time. So, all you veterans out there are like, hey, they're not that great. Okay, I know, but they're pretty comfortable.
They're pretty cheap too. Commercial cots are even more comfortable, but here's the caveat with commercial cots. That last bar that you got to stretch over to make the thing work, I don't understand how it's physically possible to do it. I mean, I don't get it, but anyway, so they have some incredible commercial cots out now. Cabela's makes a phenomenal one.
Oh, absolutely. And especially when you might be, I mean, think about what just happened recently with the hurricanes and people being displaced. How valuable having a handful of cuts around to be able to share. Inflatable mattresses, I hate them. Okay. Here's why. I weigh a lot. That's true. And I've never had an inflatable mattress not end up putting me on the ground by about dawn.
Well, but, okay. I know. I do think it's worth having them around. It's probably worth it. I just hate them. Okay, you can... I can hate something and want to have it around. This is true. Like, your cats. This is... Oh! Yes! Yes! I am not in love with it. I'm back down right here. I'm prepping 2.0.
We're going to have to go into marital accounts. It's back five years. Let's get some cats. What? They were going to be outdoor cats if you recall. One of them. And they're not good though. Any users really quick. That's not where we're going before you move on. I do want to give a quick mention of our we are now on X.
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We all have a reason for starting to prep. Some of the answers of this question will be the same as your reason, thereby validating what you're doing. And some answers might be ones you never thought of, thereby expanding your perspective on this. Either way, the answers are interesting. Shelby, hit me with a question. So to Glenn, we were reversing how we did this on all that show. This is a part two of a two-part series. Glenn, what got you prepping?
Realizing how fragile the American supply system and security system is, and it came to fruition, and I talk about this in 299 days, book one, which most of the stuff in that book, book one, is true because that was past and present stuff.
The stuff predicted out into the future, obviously, you know, hasn't happened yet. Well, it's actually quite a bit of it has. But anyway, back to book one, I remember going to a supermarket and I sat in my car back at the time, the takura, the tactical acura.
And I sat in the tackyra and I watched semi-trucks come into a loading bay in a large grocery store. And I realized really quickly, because there were a lot of them, and they were coming in pretty frequently.
And I realized that it was just in time inventory. If you don't know what just in time inventory is, it's one of those few things that the name of it says at all. It is just in time inventory. So when you have 50 bags of Doritos, and I always pick on Doritos, I don't know why, but it works.
And then you've got 50 bags of Doritos in the grocery store. And then as the scanner shows, you know, the UPC thing, it shows that 45 making these numbers up of the bags have been sold that day. They order another 50 and they come that day. So it's like daily replenishment of all this stuff. And I thought to myself,
My goodness, what if the trucks can't come and replenish the Doritos stock? Because there's no like stock room in a supermarket. I mean, it's not like the old days when they used to have that stuff. So what if there's no diesel fuel? What if the roads are too dangerous and the truckers won't drive? What if there are roadblocks of either natural or man-made?
What if there's internet outage and that automatic reordering thing can't work? Well, then people aren't going to get their Doritos and it'll take about a day for them to realize the shelves are empty, which means it'll take them about a day to start smashing and burning and trying to steal the last few bags of Doritos. And that's when it hit me. So fragility is what I realized and that's what got me prepping.
Well, very good. So what I think is interesting as you listen to Glenn talk about there, we see glimpses of this, what he just describes when you watch the news cycle. For example, right now we're still kind of, there's a good chunk of the United States recovering from Hurricane Helene.
I remember reading specifically that looting that was happening in the initial beginnings were not marauders from wearing masks and being scary. These are your neighbors. So when there's no food supply and people are desperate,
It's crazy what happens. And when you just have just in time inventory, it will change your thinking. So our first contributor to today, and again, this is a part two. So if you didn't listen to the first half. These are patreons who answered the question, what got you to start preppy? Yep, and Matt Williams says that God's honest truth is that 15 years ago, I liked having an excuse to buy guns and build bug out bags today because I have a family to care for because of what we've seen happen in our nation around the globe.
The last five years have forced me to ramp things up with knowledge, building via in-person classes, lots of reading podcasts and food water preps. This has led to a net positive in my daily life. I've learned a lot about myself, my capabilities, and more importantly, my limitations. I met a lot of great people and have even become a regular contributor to a popular and bi-monthly prepping off-grid publication.
Outstanding, Matt. This is very, very cool. See, it's not just making sure you have stuff during a disruption. Prepping, if done correctly, means that you upgrade your life. You feel better about yourself, you know more about yourself, and you're thinking of others. So let's dissect this, an excuse to buy guns and build bug out bags.
I would say a large percentage of male preppers fall into that category. Some never mature out of that and they just keep doing it and I often say you don't need to have that seventh AR 15. Probably have some water treatment stuff.
And then building bug out bags and everybody knows how I feel about bug out bags. I guess they're required, but they're kind of a crutch that a lot of people lean on. They think that's all they need. And now I love it. He prouts because he has a family to care for. I love that. We were talking in the previous part one of this topic about the mama bear and how you don't want to get in between her and her cubs.
And so, and I think candidly unpopular opinion in some quarters, that men have an obligation to provide for their family. And Matt, you were stepping up and getting it done. And I also like, when you say you're now like a full on prepper, because of what you've seen happening in our nation around the globe, one of the things that I love about that is that you are taking in evidence, you are rationally
looking at facts that are actually occurring, and you're coming to conclusions like, wow, there could be a disruption. And it's not the scaremongering stuff. I talked in part one of this topic about the YouTube video about space aliens invading. That's not what's motivating you. You were acting very rationally and very responsibly, and that is freaking awesome, Matt.
And if I can add another, just good job, Matt, and another attaboy to you. Our last contributor to our last show was Sally Gray, who survived a traumatic event and helped prepping gave her peace of mind. And I think there is that mental health aspect.
Yeah, in a positive way. In a very positive way. I mean, I also think about when, again, we had Jeff Reynolds on recently about how when you go back to the show that we did with him originally when it was first becoming a prep or how it really got him out of kind of this numb existence of just, you know, watching football and just, you know, paying off his credit card to now actively engaging in life. And I've heard that time in some version of that thread,
said to us in regards to prepping that I just think it's, it's amazing and it's great to hear it. So are we on to our next quote unquote caller? Glenn, would you like to read the next one or would you like me to? Why don't you? So Bob Rackham says living in rural Western Tennessee, we don't typically see much snow, maybe a few inches each year, but we do get our fair share of ice out here in the Mississippi Delta. We're pretty isolated with no neighbors nearby at that time.
We had no family around us because I just left the Marine Corps and we were adjusting to civilian life. One winter after a major ice storm hit, covering everything in several inches of ice, my wife and I, along with her two young daughters, found herself stranded at home without power for ten and a half days. Before the power went out, we watched from our front window as explosions lit up the light sky. Later we learned that those were electrical transformers exploding the distance, knocked out by the weight of the ice.
Trees were down everywhere, making the roads completely impassable so we had no way of leaving even if we wanted to. During that time, we heated the house with a small kerosene heater and cooked meals on our gas grill. It wasn't easy, but we managed that experience was a real eye opener. We realized how unprepared we were for such an event. And after those long days of making Dewey decided to make some changes. Since then, we've taken a much more proactive approach to being prepared for whatever nature throws our way.
Over the years, we've faced several more ice storms and living in Dixie Alley. We've also seen our fair share of tornadoes. Each time though, we've been more ready, more equipped and more confident that we can weather this storm, whatever it may be. Again, looking at rational things that are happening and it's more than just looking at the news. You were without power for 10 and a half days. That's crazy. Two little ones.
And instead of crying and freaking out, I think this may have something to do with you being a Marine. You took matters into your own hands. You got it done. You kept, you know, I'm guessing the 10 and a half days, Bob, you were managing morale quite a bit and expectations and emotions and all of that other stuff, which is a key
I'm going to guess too that during that time, you may have probably lost power during at least summer almost all of that time. So that you probably were cold and realized how uncomfortable that was, but you may do. You didn't set the house on fire. So good on you, Bob. And again, I go back to what I've said all along as we've done this series, natural disasters, smaller, large can be a game changer.
Yeah, and I like that you didn't just say, oh, this is unpleasant. Let's pick up and move to a place where there's no ice like Florida. Nothing against Florida. I think it's a magnificent state. But you didn't just give up. You said, well, given that there is this circumstance that we will be confronting periodically, why don't we have a plan for this? And why don't we do some work and spend some money and come up with a solution? And you know who the big winner in my opinion of all this is? You're two daughters.
they have seen and again controversial alert they've seen a man step up and get it done and provide what are they going to be valuing and prioritizing when they are dating they're going to be
They're going to be at least okay with, but probably wanting to find a man who takes care of stuff. Now, does this mean that your wife was doing nothing? Not at all. She was doing absolutely her part. She was doing a bunch of stuff. And since it's you writing this post, you probably focused on what you did, which is natural. So they're also seeing your daughters. They're also seeing a woman who is taking care of business, getting stuff done,
And not, I'm guessing, not complaining and crying and moaning. And you and your wife were working together as a team to overcome some bad stuff for the benefit of your daughters. And I think it's fantastic because those girls are seeing how it's supposed to be between a man and a woman.
And if I can add one more just, congratulations to you, Bob. What you talk about the ice storms that hit, that is one natural disaster that does not get mentioned at all. The central area of America, it's kind of the wheat belt, whatever, it's the farm belt.
Not in the south. Not in the south. Not the wheat. There's a lot of. Right. But he, where's he from? He's from Missouri, Mississippi, Western Tennessee, Western Tennessee. Out here in the Mississippi. Oh yeah. Oklahoma, Nebraska, all of those kind of that central belt right down the middle of the United States.
gets hit so hard because it has that humidity level that can create those ice storms that are not talked about enough every winter in various places. Or if you do, it's a 10-second blip on the Weather Channel if you actually do watch the Weather Channel. So really encourage, again, I'm going to go back to something, a drum. I keep beating natural disasters, man.
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I would be glad to take the next one. That's James Randall. It's very short. He says, I started in the late 1990s, found a local radio station, KHNC, that had interviews with James Wesley Rawls. I was hooked. Now I'm a prepping junkie. Let me just say, KHNC is the best radio station in the United States of America. No offense to the other radio stations that are carrying this show right now.
You need to listen to KHNC. You can listen to them online. They carry our show. For a long time, I did a weekly show on KHNC. I just couldn't keep up with it time-wise. It is owned by a great guy, Joe J. Quinn.
And he cares that people get information that's not censored, that is true, and that is entertaining. And we need independent radio stations like him, because if they can shut down the internet, I guess, or influence it. But you know what? They can't censor the airwaves. And it is so important for you to have a good local radio station. Now, that's the good news. The bad news is,
There are very few places in the United States where you have a CHNC or an independent radio station. A lot of people don't know this, but radio stations like 95% are owned by what I would call syndicates. It's, you know, clear channel or that kind of thing. And it's corporate media.
And they take no risks because they're corporate folks. And so if you can find a good local radio station, that in my mind, first of all, is entertaining and good information. But second of all, that's actually a prep because when stuff goes south, who's going to be broadcasting the truth? Local, good independent radio stations mentions James Wesley Rawls. He started this whole genre of fiction. And we have all read Patriots.
It didn't have the most believable storylines. I'm just going to say, I know that's sacrilegious to say anything bad about it, but I give him a lot of credit for kicking off the genre, and he's really become an icon. Everybody's read his stuff.
And you can't fault him on that. So next one Midwest, Midwest rancher, Shelby, why don't you take that away? So what we'll probably have to do, I'm going to read it, and then we're going to have to take our break. So we'll respond to it after the break. For radio stations with your hard breaks.
So he says, I grew up on a ranch for trips to town for anything or a time consuming inconvenience. I drove to high school and vehicles that like to break down. I developed a desire early in life to be as self-reliant as possible. I still live on and operate that ranch with my family. Red State is a great community to live in. Everything that has come is an extension of
that early experience. I still want to be as self-reliant as possible to be able to handle as many of the trials life offers without outside help. I'm teaching my kids that mindset will never be able to be 100% self-reliant. I've always accepted that. I still try to get close as possible without going overboard. I don't want self-reliance to dominate my family's life, but to be a normal part of that life, I wanted all of us to live full lives and enjoy the opportunities available, but to have
That self-reliant background of mindset to fall back on when life gets tough. I don't prep for any single event. I don't know what the future holds, but try to have enough on hand to give us time to adapt to whatever comes. If the world gets harder,
My memories of better times will give all of us a reference point, a goal to want to return to. I don't want preparedness to become such a focus that we miss out on the good times. Oh my goodness. Oh boy, when we come back on the other side, we're going to talk more about this, but I'll give you a little.
a little short teaser. And that is not going overboard and not letting prepping consume your family's life is something we have always advocated. It's not always a popular thing to do, but we believe very strongly. It's all about balance for sure. So folks, we have so much more to talk about. Join us on the other side of the break. For more on why people started prepping, don't go away.
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Episode 189 in our archive dive. This is where we go back and we look at previous episodes. This one has one of the best titles ever. And that was Episode 189 June of 2022. It was called picking up chicks. And where did we get that title from?
From 299 days, it's a chapter title where folks when they see that stuff's falling apart, they know they have one more trip to the farm store and they go to the farm store and they pick up some chicks as in young chickens. And what also happened in 2021 as things started to shut down and close up and what happened in all around the United States, people were picking up chicks.
taken up chicks. People started raising chickens all the sudden. So we had to close and go into break and we adjust. We hate that. We do. We just read Midwest Rancher, talks about how he grew up in a red state.
in a small community where you have to drive really far to get to town and how those experiences were so monumental and so foundational for him in learning. And I really appreciate, and Glenn, I know you're going to talk about this, the balance. I remember, gosh, it's been years, three, four years ago, when somebody reached out to me, I think it was an email.
And we're just like, I'm sick of prepping. I'm sick of being on alert all the time. It's made me broke. I'm, you know, my marriage is falling apart because I'm spending all of these resources on prepping instead of, you know, XYZ. And that you could just feel this person's just anger and frustration with, I keep prepping for things that don't happen.
But again, I would direct this person to have a conversation to Midwest Rancher. If you're finding your balance in life being off-balance, where you're doing too much in one area, you're not enjoying life, you're not spending time with your family, you're taking away and taking away too much from that, you're out of balance. And so what are your thoughts on that, Glenn?
Yes, balance is key even when we are in trying times like this. And there are lots of good things that in and of themselves are good, but they can be bad when they are imbalanced. And for example, easiest one that comes to mind, you can work too much.
But I need to work a lot and make a lot of money and take care of my family. You need to work and take care of your family. That is true. But if you're sacrificing every other part of your life, it's not true. I knew this attorney very in the state of Washington, famous attorney, very successful guy. And he said it hit him when his family went on this great vacation. He had young kids and they were sort of in their formative years.
And they want to go on this really cool vacation. He could totally afford it. He made a ton of money, unlike me. And he could afford it. And he wouldn't go because he couldn't turn down all the money he was making. And he said, I can't afford my own time. I want you to think about that statement. I can't afford my own time.
Now, he figured it out. He ended up going on vacations. He scaled back, blah, blah, blah. But you have to have balance. Some other things besides work that are in and of themselves, good things that can get out of control, volunteering, right? You can be on all the church committees, all the charities, all the other stuff, and you're doing good stuff. Objectively speaking, you're doing good stuff.
But when you're never home, you know, you get home at eight o'clock at night because you got school board on Tuesday and you got this and this. A subset of that is sports. Kids sports, while very important, I'm a huge fan of sports as a complimentary thing for kids to become full and complete people. Big fan, I never did sports, but I mean, I wish I did actually in hindsight.
But I have a friend. It's actually Governor Ben Trenton from the books. He spends all of his time. Now his kids are playing college ball, so I mean, I guess that's not a thing anymore. Huge expense and sacrifice. Yeah, he said to me, the only weekend he had off was like Thanksgiving.
and Christmas. Other than that, he was going to tournaments all over the place. They would always be staying at these hotels. I don't know if you've ever been to a hotel on a weekend and then like the breakfast bar, you got like 57 volleyball players, you know, hogging up the waffle machine. I mean, it's horrible. No, I'm just kidding.
That is not the worst part. He will just tell you the cost, the financial cost to try to get the cost to get these kids to some major leagues. And the fact that, I mean, sacrificing his marriage and his time and his physical health is too much. Yeah, too much. So you got to have some balance. Now, as this applies to prepping, we've pretty much said it, and Shelby's story was spot on. You can do too much of this.
You can't be completely prepped as a reasonable matter. I mean, it's just impossible unless you have a billion dollars and we actually did a show on that. We talked about what if you had a billion dollars and we got some amazing responses from Patreons. That was a great show too.
So just you can't take care of every contingency. And if you have the personality or the mindset that wants to be in control of things, and it's hard not to, especially when you were talking about, you know, saving your family and all that other kind of stuff.
You might try to have a plan for absolutely every contingency. It's like, well, what if my family needs dental work? I'll go on YouTube and I'll learn how to be a dentist and I'll have like a full dental shop. You just can't do that. So you got to have the balance. And I think that the standard for when you're out of balance is something hit on by Midwest Rancher. And that is when it started to dominate his family's life. Yeah. Yeah.
That is just great advice. You're out of balance. Stop there. Yep. So do you want to do the next one, sir, from Stu B? Stu B, yes. A friend gave me a five gallon bucket of beans, a five gallon bucket of rice, and some silver coins. I thought it was very much like what our great grandparents did. I was already canning and dehydrating for years.
But when COVID hit, it was a real wake up to get serious in many areas of prepping. We just got our generator. Water is my biggest concern. We're older and can't walk to a water source, but we've got filters and a water Bob. If we have advanced notice of an issue, love your show. First of all, your taste is spectacular. We love the show too. We're very glad that patrons do.
I'm just kind of curious. I mean, we won't know why your friend gave you buckets of beans, rice, and some silver coins. Whoever that friend is slash was, they're a great person because that is a very tangible way to get going because there's this thing in life when you think about a big topic, it's kind of abstract. But when somebody actually does something or you see things,
It kind of changes everything. You mentioned your great grandparents. You were already canning and dehydrating. So stew, I'm going to assume you're a man because the name stew is more commonly associated with a man. If you haven't heard my story about men who can as in prepare canned food, you're going to like this.
But back in the day, probably 10 years ago, I was canning a lot, learned how to do it. I thought it was important. It was fun. And so I go to the, whatever it was, farm supply store and get canning supplies. And Shelby, I'm sorry you have to hear this, but you're going to have to hear this. It's a very attractive woman, approximately my age.
was really impressed. I'm just going to put it that way. Well, this is why I don't let you come down the canning aisle with me. Yeah, exactly. And so, guys, if you want to pick up some pretty awesome chicks, you might consider learning how to can. I'm just putting that out there.
Well, and let me just add to this. I think what's really interesting there is to be mentioned that he is already being, I'm going to assume he canning and dehydrating for years learned these skills from parents. But when COVID hit, it was the wake up call that got you serious. And then you went to kind of what we would call the 2.0 level. You got the generator working on filters and solving some of those problems. Boy, I will say this. For those of you who want to go back and listen to our archive shows, I would say the spring of 2021,
were stellar shows because we were literally watching this happen right before our very eyes. We had on a first responder from New York who was part of that whole watching people perish in front of him. And remember what happened in New York with people getting COVID and how it was poorly done.
to put it mildly. To put it mildly. Talk to the, we talked about this in the last part one of this show. What's happening in prisons has people are being let free because of COVID. We talked to, that's when we first started talking to Dan, the food industry guy. So many things were happening at that time. And at the same time, we, Glenn and I,
We made some trips and bought a bunch of stuff to make sure. We were already prepped, but we topped off. And we probably spent a little too much money, but that's okay. And really, I think a lot of people went from 1.0 to 2.0. They went from buckets of beans to generators, much like you used to. So good on you.
So, would you like me to go to the next person? Yes, please. Donald Shoemaker says, I started prepping in 1999 right before Y2K. Boy, a lot of Y2Kers here, welcome.
I was working for a tech company who was spending millions and millions of dollars to make sure all of their equipment would be Y2K compliant. I figured if they were investing that kind of money to make sure something, make sure nothing happened. I should start thinking about it too shortly after that. I read James Wesley Rawls' novel Patriots, and that's when I really started prepping. Yeah, Y2K kicked it off for a lot of us. It wasn't necessarily me, but definitely many of our listeners. Go ahead.
You know what I think is cool about Y2K inspired preppers is they were inspired good and they took some action more good. And then when nothing happened, they stuck with it. They continued to prep. Absolutely. They did what we've heard a few threads about here is while the occasion changed.
they continue to prep because it's the mindset of being prepared for as many circumstances as possible. And again, we talked about it in the part one of this show. Look, what's just happened recently where you have the state department coming out saying, oh, there could be a cyber attack. And how frustrating that is is when they raise those flags that may or may not always be true. But it reminds us we need to be ready for whatever we can be ready for with whatever our bandwidth is available to do, right?
Yes. Yes. So do you want to take the next one, sir? Sure. Elizabeth C. says, and we're going to have a long conversation about this, says, I have always stored up, but when things started getting weird in my liberal western Washington neighborhood about 2017, I started in full force. I ended up moving to a red state in 2022 and have never been happier.
The closest major shopping is now 50 miles away, which makes prepping a necessity as it's hard to just run to the store. Shelly, why don't you take the point about when you live far away from stores, you got to really plan stuff out. You do. We're not quite where Elizabeth is, but we're going to talk. Costco's about 45 minutes. Costco's 45 minutes. There's a grocery store six miles away where we can get quite a few things.
But yeah, if it's 10 o'clock at night, you're like, dang, I need some milk. I'm not going to the store. We definitely have to plan those things. Okay, if I'm going through town, I need to stop. Like right now, we are in town right now. We're going to stop at the grocery store so we don't have to go get milk in the middle of the night. And you do have to plan for that.
It's interesting when we chose where we lived, we'd like to be about 40, 50 miles nearest to a large city because at the time you were needing cancer checkups and things like that. So we didn't want to be too remote, but we are definitely out there a little bit. So I also think it's interesting how
Elizabeth C. You started prepping in 2017 in Western Washington neighborhood when you were watching the liberal weird out that was happening as people were suddenly having to realize that President Trump was their president.
And if you remember, that's when I was writing my books. As I'm watching weird crap and violence happen in downtown Portland, the whole not my president mantra, watching Molotov cocktails go through glass windows with children in them, and I'm watching the police stand down. And I'm like, holy bucket. So Elizabeth, see you.
Honestly, you moved out after you saw the same weirdest I did. And I think it's a good thing to think about. We've done shows on this. If you live in these liberal deep blue cities or near to them, you need to be ready to bug out. I've said that all along, but oh my gosh, because you will see weirdness and violence and crazy stuff that you will never see on the news. We've talked about this. What are your thoughts?
An interesting fact here is some arithmetic. Started becoming nervous about things in 2017 and ended up moving in 2010. That's five years. There was a plan there. That's five years. And as you know, we are huge, absolutely huge proponents of moving to red states, even if it's painful and uncomfortable.
And it's a clear indicator. You had to make a plan, Elizabeth. You didn't just like, oh, I'm up and out. We're just going to get a new apartment. Nope. You had to make some plans there. Yeah. So while we're very much encouraging people to get out of blue places as fast as possible, by the way, we were recording this two days before election day. I got a weird feeling that what we just said is going to be even more obvious to more people in a couple of days by the time you hear this.
But it took five years to get there. And here's what I like, Elizabeth C. You gave yourself grace. You weren't like, hey, I gotta just move right now. And I'm gonna, I mean, people have families, they have pensions, they have businesses, they have kids in school. We've heard it all, we've lived it all. Well, and those flip decisions can be ones that you're at the most, right? Exactly. And here's the thing that
You have to experience to understand this. So I just lost the attention of a bunch of the audience when I said that because they're like, have I experienced this? Well, if not, I won't understand it. But I'll do my best. When you live in a crazy liberal place like Western Washington and then you move to a red state, you have no idea how much better life is. You didn't understand or appreciate how messed up things were and how it affected you until you're away from it.
you know we would
We came here and things weren't dark and foreboding. I mean, there weren't crazy people. I mean, like out of their mind, lunatic drug addicts everywhere. That just doesn't happen here. We have in my town, in our town, I kid you not. We have one. We have a town drunk. We have a town drunk. And you know what? He's super nice. He's the nicest guy. Here's how Montana's different. And you're thinking of like Seattle with like, you need to. Oh, it's zombies.
You need to use a bulldozer to get all the drug addicts out of the way. But here in our little town of 2000, the drunk is such a nice guy. I walk by the liquor store and I hear him talking to the guy in the liquor store. And our town drunk says, I'm really sorry. I was out of hand the other night. I think I owe you money.
Oh my gosh. He was paying a debt that he apparently accrued when he was drunk. Well, and honestly, he lives in this community. He lives in this community. Everybody loves him. Yeah, he's nice. It's not a zombie that's just going to walk up to you and clock you in downtown Seattle that happens all the time. You know what I mean? I have no fear of this guy. In fact,
I mean, I would hang out for them. I was going to say- I'd give them a sandwich of my song. I would buy them a beer, but that's probably a bad idea. Sandwich, do a sandwich. Yeah, sandwich is probably better. So you don't appreciate it until you're outside of it, and it is the best feeling in the world. Here's another thing about the difference between blue states and red states. I've mentioned this before, but it's worth mentioning. We have a lot of new listeners, so maybe you haven't heard this before.
In Montana, I don't feel the necessity to carry a gun. Now, I do because it's a good idea on a lot of levels. Right, so keep our lawyer stand down, he carries a gun, it's okay. Yeah, and not only is it okay, it's kind of expected. Here's a funny side story.
I'm at the age where I don't go to a lot of weddings because most of my friends are already married, in some cases, a couple of times. I hadn't been to a wedding in Montana, and I hadn't been to a wedding at all in quite some time. I go to a wedding in Montana. Little did I realize that there is a social custom at many weddings in Montana, and that is a man carries a sidearm to a wedding.
I loved it. Now, so I show up. You look around and there's like everybody. Yeah. All the guys have pistols. And luckily, I went to my truck and I have a 10 millimeter with a paddle holster. So I just slipped it right on my belt. And I was good. Not only was I good, I was 10 millimeter good. Kind of outdid those guys with the 90 grams. You know, that's pretty good. So it's jeans. It's cowboy boots. It's a button down shirt with a vest and a sidearm.
Yeah. Yeah. And a cowboy hat, and you guys know how I feel about cowboy hats. I, my personal standard and not, this does not apply to anyone else, so I'm not judgy. If you don't live by this standard, you're still an awesome human being.
I don't think that I should ride or pardon me wear a cowboy hat unless I ride a horse five times in a calendar year. That's my own personal standard. That being said, when it's really hot and sunny, like we go to a rodeo in the middle of summer, I will wear a straw cowboy hat because they are the absolute best
cooling devices ever invented. But boy, have I got off on some tangents? Move to a red stick. Exactly. So I'm going to read Matt S's. I think this is funny. So Matt S, I'm going to bleep a few times because he's colorful. And I like his sarcasm. He says, I guess as a kid, I took the
Boy Scout motto to heart be prepared and was largely a half prepped for a while. I always believed that stupid people in large numbers could cause all sorts of problems. And when the whole Y2K thing was beginning, I started to kick things more into gear and became a three quarter prepper, then over the last 10 years or so, seeing the direction the politicians were taking things and watching a lot of the population feed on it like a baby animal feeds from its mama made me even more aware.
The recent lead up to 2020 confirmed things that I'd hear people say, things like, oh, why would I worry about a lockdown when there's so many places that will deliver food? Actual quote said to me, I'm probably a four fifths.
prepper now and tried to overcome the hurdle of being medically tied to be near major population centers, but looking for my escape plan, property mat right on. It's that whole seeing trends and stepping back and reading them and reading it as a landscape. I love that. I love how you, you know, when you listen to people say stupid things where you're like, really, you think you're going to survive because Uber showed up?
Okay. And then also too, making a plan, like Glenn in a way, you need to be near, don't need to be in it necessarily, in or excuse me, near a major population because of health issues. Totally get that and I love that you're planning it. Just like the previous post, it takes time to execute. What are your thoughts there, Glenn?
everything he said I agree with and I especially like the last line where he says he's looking for his escape plan property that is fabulous you need to have that and we did an episode called bugging out 101
which was, I'm going to say it, it was a great episode. It told folks a lot of what they need to know, a lot of stuff we learned, and it's not as simple as it appears on the surface. Now don't be daunted and intimidated by it, but we talked about things like
You haul trailers, tone weight, which is one of my favorite things to say. I don't know why it sounds weird. It does keep going of trailers. And we talked about caching things, C-A-C-H-E caches and storing stuff. Storing these away, like in buckets and secret places. Yeah, storage lockers, storage rental stuff. We talked about the
usually the fallacy of I'm just going to get some of my bros together and we're going to buy a property and it's all going to be cool. Maybe you and your bros are cool, but there are others in the familial circle that may not be cool. So that can be a problem. So there's like details and things to work out, but that doesn't mean you don't do it.
So you're being active, you're being proactive, and that is absolutely...
So we have a comment here, and we'll see how far we get with this. So this is from Steve Chapman. I'm assuming it's a he said, I read the first chapter of Molan Liebe, L-E-B-E by Boston Tea Period Party. I've never heard of this book. It sent me down the rabbit hole. Go Glenn. I have heard of the book. It is a book about firearms and about having firearms that the government doesn't know about.
And it's a pretty influential book. It's pronounced Mulan Leib. I know, I was wondering. Yeah, I mean, there are other. I think I was wondering if there's a typo. Anyway. Means come and take it in Greek. And send him down the rabbit hole. What I find interesting about this comment, and I'm going to wrap it up here in a moment, is that the rabbit hole starts with guns.
And then, much like the previous Patreon said, started with guns, and then they started realizing there was more to it than guns. That's what I assume. Steve Chapman means by sending him down the rabbit hole. So she'll take us out. We've got some more Patreon stuff for the after show. We have a lot. So if you are a Patreon, come join us over there, folks. From Benjamin Franklin, don't forget, failing to prepare is preparing to fail, folks. Have a great week, everyone. Stay safe.
See you next week. You've been listening to Prepping 2.0 with authors Glenn Tate and Shelby Gallagher. All the information you've heard today, including all our previous shows, is online at prepping2-0.com. Find out more about Glenn's books at 299-days.com and Shelby's books at agreatstate.com.
Learn about the latest book they authored together at foodpreps2-0.com. Until next time, be smart, be safe, and be prepared.
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