Pat Bev In Studio, The Cowboys Are Deader Than Dead, College Football Talk + The Jets Have Reached The Bottom
November 20, 2024
TLDR: Joe Burrow is having an impressive NFL season, the Jets are struggling after firing their GM, and the hosts discuss possible solutions. College Football is also discussed, including debate over Big 12's inclusion in major conferences, and Pat Bev joins to talk about basketball experiences.
In this episode of the Pardon My Take podcast, hosts sit down with Patrick Beverly, who offers unique insights into his basketball journey, as well as a humorous dive into the latest happenings in the NFL and college football.
Cowboys Are "Deader Than Dead"
At the beginning of the episode, the hosts tackle the struggles of the Dallas Cowboys, declaring them "deader than dead" after a lackluster performance on Monday Night Football. Key points include:
- Calls for Ending Primetime Games: Suggestions arise to stop airing Cowboys games in primetime.
- Analysis on Prescott and Defense: The performances of Dak Prescott and the team's overall defense are heavily criticized.
- Future of the Team: Discussions speculate whether they should explore starting Trey Lance due to ongoing poor performance.
Jets Fire GM: Rock Bottom?
Next, the conversation turns to the New York Jets, who have reached a new low after firing their general manager. Insights include:
- Immediate Fallout: With the GM gone, fans and analysts wonder what adjustments will be made moving forward.
- Calls for Change: Memes, a guest on the show, suggests potential plans to revitalize the team, including controversial quarterback decisions.
College Football Rundown
As the college football season approaches championship week, the hosts dive into the rankings:
- Big 12 Under Threat: Speculation about whether the Big 12 could be left out of the playoff conversation, emphasizing the challenges faced by teams like Indiana.
- Hot Takes on Indiana Football: Discussion of the coordinated attack on Indiana's football program and why the fans should be excited despite the critics.
Hot Seat/Cool Throne Segment
The hosts wrap up their discussions with the "Hot Seat/Cool Throne" segment, highlighting:
- The Disarray in the NBA: The Philadelphia 76ers face turmoil with speculations of internal issues, including a tense exchange between Tyrese Maxey and Joel Embiid over punctuality.
- Jon Stamos on the Hot Seat: Lighthearted laughs are shared over Stamos' bizarre show of support towards a friend.-
Pat Bev Joins the Show
Patrick Beverly steps in to discuss basketball, Israel, and the current state of the NBA.
- Life in Israel: Pat shares his experiences and adjustment to the Israeli basketball league, revealing differences in gameplay, coaching styles, and fans.
- The Importance of Team Chemistry: Beverly emphasizes the importance of strong team relationships in both league success and personal growth as an athlete.
Conclusion
This episode is packed with humor, topical sports analysis, and valuable insights from both the hosts and Pat Beverly. For fans of sports, this discussion about NFL struggles, college football dynamics, and the unique challenges of playing overseas serves as an engaging and insightful listen.
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Wednesday November 20th and the Dallas Cowboys are deader than dead. It was already dead, but now it's really, really dead and they're pathetic and they shouldn't be on TV, but oh wait, we still have them on Monday Night Football that they can't flex because there's a Simpsons broadcast. And also because it's the Cowboys. I think that's a convenient excuse because I don't think that they would ever flex the Cowboys because what you could get with any Dallas game is exactly what you got last night, which is chaos, the building falling apart.
in Dallas before the game, and it's still got 17 million viewers. Yeah, well, I mean, that's Monday Night Football, too. Yes, but also primetime games, Monday Night Football, Sunday Night Football. I'm good with not having to watch the Cowboys anymore. They're really bad. Listen, they're not even fun bad. I am too, but guess what? People in general are going to watch the Dallas Cowboys if they're on primetime.
That's the thing about them. And it sucks. But the, uh, the Simpsons broadcast, that'll be fun to see the team just completely implode as I hope that Mike McCarthy is either chief wiggle. That'd be the perfect fit as chief wiggle, or maybe just smithers on the sideline and Mr. Burns needs to be Jerry Jones.
I mean, I'm going to have to watch that broadcast because it's going to suck having to watch the Cowboys again. It's just not. It's not fun. Cooper Rush, not fun. Why don't they start Trey Lance? He's probably not good, but he's not Cooper Rush. Right, but he's probably not good. But why not at this point? I think I think you got to be at least like there's a level of competency that maybe he hasn't achieved. I guess, but I mean, you traded a draft pick for him.
Yeah, what was it like a seventh rounder? No, I think it's harder than that. Was it? Yeah. That was stupid. I don't think that's that uncommon of a take to say that they should just try to start trade lands. Yeah, I'm sure they will at some point. It was a fourth rounder. And I'm sure they will at some point. I just I would assume he's
There's got to be a reason he's not playing. You know what the saddest like I think they will now maybe because he's they're so bad and it's over. But I think they this was the last moment where they're like, hey, maybe we'll win a game and change your round. It's just it's not there. You know what the saddest part to me is watching Cooper Rush play quarterback for this team when he does the here we go. Yeah. The deck does the deck. He needs to come up with his own cadence. Yeah. Don't just try to do like a cover of Dak Prescott's already annoying. Here we go.
It's very, very bad. Um, yeah, the Cowboys are very, very bad. Jerry's very, very bad. He's, I feel like the, the fans have fully turned on him. He's like in late stage, like dementia, like weird, like he's, you know, he's given these press conferences after his like, I've been here for bad teams and we, you know, bad years happens. Like, yeah, we get it, but, uh, this team sucks and you had no contingent and they're getting, it's getting hidden by the fact that Dak Prescott got hurt. They suck before that. Oh, well before. Yeah. Yeah. Their defense stinks.
This isn't just a Dak Prescott got hurt. Our year went to shit. It was bad before that. Yeah, it was already bad. You're running back. You play the running back position from week one was awful. Yeah. They just, yeah, the bad team and the Texans get a little right, get a little mojo going right, which is never trailing in that game. Just whooping up on them. That's got to feel good. That first place would have counted. Yeah, I know. It was such a good first play too. It also was just classic for Laramie Tunsel. They probably practice that play all week and then he was like, he just didn't do it right.
Yeah, it's a king of penalties. But yeah, the Texans like, I don't really know where I think the Texans are still in that second tier in the AFC where they could maybe want to play off game. I just don't know. I feel like they're just don't have enough against a bills, Ravens, Steelers, Chiefs. So, like what you described is the Chargers second tier. No, I was you didn't let me finish.
Thanks for waking up, Hank. You didn't let me finish. I was going to say charges. The Hank might be a clock at night. Hank is saying a couple minutes ago. He might put a juicy little future on the Chargers. That'd be a sharp pattern. You're going to be so mad if the Chargers win a playoff game. No. Yeah, you will. Yeah, you will. You'll get a little bit upset. No.
Zero fear. Okay, so if you're the Cowboys, one thing I didn't understand last night, your season's over, right? You're not gonna win anything. You've long since given up on that. Why not just let Brandon Aubrey have that 64-yard field goal? Dude, he barely even kicked it. It looked like a practice. It was nuts. I understand the idea that, okay, they called a penalty, which by the way. No, no, no, never take points off the board. Never take points off the board. Yeah, that's a long time ago. Yeah, coach, no, you don't wanna take three points, you never know what could happen. Yeah, but you got your drive extended, so you're trying to score a touchdown.
Um, as a Bears fan, did that piss you off that they called a slap to the head, which hasn't been called in decades. No, listen, Matt, he already called running over the center's face. He sent it into league. I'm sure we'll fix everything. I don't like you, Hank. I'm stuck on the Chargers thing. By the way, you just named five AFC teams and you didn't get in the Chargers and you, the way you described it. I want to play back. I want to play back. Perfect. What was the perfect question of the Chargers where they might want to play off. Hold on. They're not beating the Chiefs. Hold on. What was the?
What was the original bet, though? I said that now I obviously believe in them fully, but the original bet that we all put in together was I don't think the Chargers are going to win the Super Bowl, but they are at 45 to one insane odds because they're a playoff team and they could play. They could basically beat anyone in a one game elimination seven. And then I've been telling you like you're going to cash out. Okay. All right. So they're great. We agree to disagree. No, no. Jay Bell is agree to disagree. Disagree. Disagreeing with yourself. You're just being disagreeing with your past self.
That's true. So that happens all the time. And you're taking it out on me. No, I feel like the reason why I can't argue with a ghost right now, you are going with something that doesn't exist anymore. That's correct logic. That was old. That was an incorrect logic is arguing with his correct logic. What I'm arguing, I'm taking it out on you because I feel like I feel like the chargers are basically the only thing you care about now. No, because you were trolling me before. And like I think
It's giving you life. So actually, usually they talk about it. We did talk about it on the show. It's like when you catch up in the future, you're not going to roof for it. Yeah, you're rooting against it. But you should thank me for giving you life. You have this is an abusive relationship right here. Front row tickets to gaslighting. Well, he reverse gaslit me. There we go. Yeah, let's keep going. Me, reverse lighting, gaslighting uses you saying things that you said previously. Sorry. You know what? I want to talk to Max and Max only.
Sorry that I came up with a bet that all the boys could ride on, and we could have fun and root for it together, and then half of the boys cashed out. Sorry. Sorry I was rooting for that. I'm still in. Thank you, Max. I thought it would be fun. No, no, you didn't let him tell the butt. No, my butt was going to be the before the show. We were all silent and Hank just whispers into the mic. He goes, charges are pretty good.
Yes, he's trolling me. Yes, that's right was talking just was like he's trolling me. I think the charge. Can you at least admit that PFT? I know you're saying he's trolling me. Oh, and yeah, no shit. Yeah, but I can't do a great stuff who's trolling me Sorry that I did something that we all could do together and then every like
Listen, I know I got Max. Max always had my back. Everyone else just bailed on me. Listen, I have not had a good gambling season, and responsibly I cashed out of it. Jerry got way better than you about the cash. Jerry approached me one on one, pulled me aside, and had to sit down with me about why I would cash out on his Steelers. And I didn't have a good answer for him. No, I'm not mad. I just liked it was fun to do it as a crew. It was fun to do it as a crew. Travis Hunter's been fun for us. It was fun to do it as a crew. And then I found out just
We don't do it as a girl. I like friendship. But you cash out a Travis Hunter too? No. Absolutely not. Diamond hands. Because they can't. They literally won't give it one. If there was, they would have. I'd be lying if I said I didn't check drafting three times a day to see if they've given me an option to cash out on Travis Hunter or an option to draft out to cash out on Lamar Jackson. That's two of us. We'll do friend bets together. Love it. We'll ride. Love it. We'll ride. Can you cash out or no?
Yeah, if we talk about it, we did say if he says, hey, remember how we talked about this? I'm going to cash out. I'd be like, yeah, you guys cash out for a loss. The whole point was to cash out for a win. I don't know if I did. Yes, you did. You 100% did. There's no chance. No chance. No chance.
So Cowboys Texans, the Texans. I don't even care about this. I mean, it's sucked. I just don't even pretending about it. I just want to say that the Texans, you said that they're in that second tier with the Chargers and the Chargers in the first year. I think that the Texans are exactly the same type of team that they were last year. The differences that CJ sprouts in the second season, I think everybody expected them to be in that top tier of the AFC and because they're just a very good team, we're like kind of silently disappointed in them.
Well, their offensive line is not great. And they've obviously had some injuries. It's good that Nico's back because he's awesome. Yeah, I think, yeah, I do think that we just expected CJ to go into infinity. Like, oh, that was his rookie year.
He'll just be the best quarterback of all time. Yeah, he's we expected him to be better than Patrick Mahomes. He's just what he is, which is a good quarterback. Yeah, I think he's a very good quarterback. He's having up and down year. Yeah, some not great games. They haven't really blown any. Have they blown anybody out? I just remember the Texans. I mean, last night, yeah, being in a shitload of close games, especially against teams that they should have blown out.
No, they have not really blown anyone out. No. They had, oh, they blew out the Patriots 41-21. What did you just do? Hang. You're right. It was for a loss. Yeah. Yeah. The whole point was to do it for a win. I got an even money. Max, no investment. No chance. Sure. Yeah. I'm pretty sure. I look it up. Highly doubt that. I'm pretty sure it's the same exact odds though. If I didn't give you an honest talk, we'll have a strategy to two of us.
Just boys. I'm not cashing out. No, but if we do, we'll do it together. We'll do it together. We'll turn the key together. It'll be a great experience. I don't want to look through this sea of red and loss. So here's what I'll guarantee. It was the exact same cash out that they offered me right when I put the bed in. So that's minus 10%. That's minus money. Minus 10%. Yeah. Good investment.
Okay, so other things clean up from Sunday. I wanted to point out this stat from our friend Ben baby. This one's crazy. Through the first 11 games on the four and seven Bengals, Joe Barrow has 3,028 passing yards, 27 touchdowns and five interceptions.
players to achieve 3000 passing yards, 27 touchdowns and five or fewer interceptions through the first 11 games. Here they are Tom Brady, 2007 and 2015. His teams were 16 and 0 and 13 and 3. Aaron Rodgers, 2011, 2020. His teams were 15 and 1, 13 and 3 patch of her homes, 20, 2014 and 2. Drew Brees, 2018, 13 and 3. This entire exercise is just to prove that Joe Burrough is having an insane season and the rest of his team has let him
down. Yeah, it sucks. It sucks. That's every single, I mean, the lowest amount of wins was 13 and three of that list I just said. And he's in a list with Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Holmes and Drew Brees. And they're four and seven. We should start talking more about Joe Barrow being the MVP. All right. You're trolling me too now. I mean, if they going a little run,
Just got to live to get your old. Hank, Hank, you've seen these stats from Joe burrow. I have. And if he finishes, no, Hey, this is personally, listen, my biggest crime here, by the way, first is being early to all of these takes that that actually have value. Personally, chargers, Travis Hunter, Joe burrow MVP, who told you about all three of those a month and a half ago. Smart guy. That's my crime. That is my crime.
I mean, he has MVP numbers. What do you want me to say? He is having an outstanding season. Sorry, I know ball. If they make the playoffs, he would be in the conversation. No, probably not, because he's like the 60 now. And I also, I mean, that was... Yeah, but if he made the playoffs, he'd be so impressive that. He should be. We discount...
The MVP conversation just becomes the team, the quarterback of the team on the one seat. That sucks. But I think if his stats were all one and they somehow went on a run to make the playoffs, it would be different. I agree. If he goes on like a meat, like, they run the table and like finally speaking and he has like insane numbers, he would definitely win.
I'd feel vindicated. Are you still in on that? Yeah. What's the number you got there? 15. It's 20 now. Okay, so I might get in. I might get in. I might get right out. I might do a parlour. See, fuck you guys. I'm done saying my takes that actually end up being good that have value. I think now when I'm doing that, it makes a lot of sense. I'll fuck you.
Uh, we guys are welcome for telling you about Travis Hunter. Uh, okay. I had had that conversation with Brandon Walker that day. That's why I thank you for bringing it up because I was going to bring it up on this very show. And Brandon tried to talk me out of Travis Hunter. He's been a Travis Hunter hater. I know for the whole year. I know. Okay. So let's start talking about what I got straight from you. Brandon Walker. Fuck you, Hank. Okay. All right. Now I won't. That's whatever. I'm going to keep my takes to myself. Whatever. Whatever. I was going to tweet him out.
I was paying you a compliment. I can't trust anything you say now. That's not nice. I can't. I feel like I'm Max right now. I'm being honest. My opinion is a total of a lot of people. Max, he's great as great as honesty. I'm great as honesty, Max. He's never honest. Okay. Thank you. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I love this. Everything he does on that. Everything else on that couch is a troll.
I speak facts. What if I please point to me a fact that I said it's been false? When you set that on that couch before we were recording, you were just like, I think there's charges, futures, a good bet. We should build a little bridge that goes above Hank's head on that wall behind there.
We'll troll guys. Trolls live here. Yeah. Don't feed the troll. I do love the new partnership though that Max and the Big Cat have bridge. I just took Joe Barrow 20 to 1 by the way. Okay. No, what we should talk about before we talk college football is that guy over there that's just not said a word for the whole show. He's just watching the chaos, loving the chaos, thinking maybe, maybe, maybe,
They'll forget the fact that the Jets fired their GM in the middle of the season. And this is now just, I mean, even for the Jets, everything has happened. It's just there's such a dumpster fire memes. Joe Douglas gets fired. Is this the thing that will fix everything? No, because he was he was pretty much. This was his final season. He had six games left.
Yeah. Yeah. So that the timing of it makes absolutely no sense. I still don't understand it. They want to get a jump on. They fired their GM six weeks before the season's over. What was he going to be doing in those six weeks?
Well, I think you wanna fire someone so that you can start your draft prep with someone who's actually gonna be there to draft them. I guess. Yeah, but. I mean, they're scouting right now. A bunch of reports came out that he pretty much wasn't the GM for the past nine months. Oh, who was? I was Woody Johnson. He just, he took full control over the team. Okay, so. That's awesome. I don't know if you had a chance to see this report just came out like five minutes before we started taping that Woody Johnson tried to bench Aaron Rodgers after the Broncos game.
And that Joe Douglas talked him out of it. Who reported that? Let me look it up. It was on the athletic. I mean, I, I believe you. That's so funny. There's a bunch of reports coming out. It's a Diana Rossini and Zach Rosenblatt. Oh, that's a half a Rossini. Jets owner Woody Johnson suggested benching Aaron Rodgers in September per sources.
And apparently Douglas talked him out of it and all the other so after that game Woody Johnson summoned every coach to the office to explain to him what went wrong like defense coordinator head coach offense coordinator Whatever it is. Nathaniel Hackett does he was in the room to Joe Douglas was there and they asked He asked them to explain themselves and then he said well what about benching Aaron Rodgers right now They said are you serious? They asked him if he was serious and he was and
I kind of believe it. Yeah. Because everything that's coming out, I mean, this guy's just an asshole. Yeah. That's the Jets are just, I mean, is Aaron Rodgers just the coach and GM right now? No, he's gone too. Fully. Fully, he's gone. Where's he going to go? Is he the Titans quarterback? And Titans would be a good fit for him. Oh, that would be fun. Because he could win the AFC South maybe. Maybe. Probably not. I think he might walk across to the other locker room.
What? Giants. He loves New York. Look, if you look at which teams need a quarterback. Oh my God. I didn't even think about that. They improve their align. They have some receivers. Their defensive line is good. He doesn't have to move. He doesn't have to move. He loves New York and then somebody else throughout the Panthers, but he wouldn't go to the. No way. No. That's beneath him. Yeah. Wait, the Giants. The Giants are intriguing. I could see and you know how this is going to work means, right?
Yeah, he'll be good. He'll be very good for at least one year. He's going to go. So if he goes to the Giants, he'll be awesome for a year, then he'll be over, but he'll have one year just to because he basically will just have a chip on his shoulder. That's really what if you break down what happened with Aaron Rodgers, I know everyone goes with the Achilles and the Achilles obviously ended that season. The biggest reason that Aaron Rodgers didn't work in the Jets is because the Achilles took away his chip on his shoulder year.
Yeah. The guy is great when he has a chip on his shoulder. He had it from Green Bay. He got hurt, couldn't play. The chip on the shoulder goes away. Now he's got a year where he doesn't have to prove anything. Next year is his chip on his shoulder year for the Jets. If you want a chip on a shoulder, he should have just taken the Vax. It's true. Now, if he goes to the Giants,
That would be, it would be a troll move too. And I know that he loves, his next move might just be to piss off whoever his most recent enemy is. And in this case, it would be the Jets. I feel like that would piss the Jets off the most, right? Yeah, 100%. Yeah. So that could happen. That could happen. I was just looking at the list of teams and there's not, there's not many suitors. People were saying the Vikings, but did you McCarthy's gonna start when he's healthy?
Yeah. It's like whichever team doesn't get Sam Donald. Yeah. Yeah. And then people are saying, just get Daniel Jones, but what it's why. I don't know. I don't know. I was getting thrown around yesterday. That's just, that's just people trying to get to you.
Yeah, they're making. That's the people doing the Mike McCarthy to the Bears. You can't let that get you to you. It's just it's a bad situation. Yeah, I want to ask earlier in the office, a there's a huddle means a city. Yes, troll. He's just I'm starting to see through Max's eyes and it just feels good. Okay, go ahead. Yes. Yes. I saw it. You want to ask a question?
It's my favorite part of it. I love that. I love what you add to everything. Go ahead. This is in the troll. Okay. This is a report. No, yeah, I know it. Okay, please report. I can't, I literally can't. What are your report? I want to hear your report. I want to hear your report. This is an eyewitness report. From you? From me? Okay. My eyes witnessed this and heard. Okay.
Memes are sitting around a table with like pug, Liam. His guys. Four other people. What are you guys huddling? Everyone's standing around, memes are sitting down, showing all the power. And I was like, what are you guys doing? And they said they're fixing the jets. Yeah, me, Blum, what is the plan? Okay, so go ahead.
Is that a troll? No, that's not a troll. We came up with a bunch of different scenarios. Condoleezza Rice was at like one of the crazier scenarios. OK, one of the crazier scenarios. Yeah, we went through as many scenarios as you could. Justin Fields was one of the options. I would say no. No, that will not fix you.
As a bridge quarterback. No, that will not fix you. The best scenario was Mike for able to coach Kevin Stafancy gets fired from the Browns. He becomes the OC. Okay. You bring in James as the bridge. Okay. And then Super Bowl. Wait, but who's the new quarterback? There has to be something at the other side of the bridge. James. But he's the bridge. No, but the bridge is also a Super Bowl. Oh, we're just lost. You win a Super Bowl and a Super Bowl. Okay, got it. But it's not. It's a rebuilding year, but it's not at the same time because the roster's still good.
we just don't have a quarterback. There's another name that you told me that you want. And that's Sam Darnold. Oh, yeah, Sam Darnold got that. Sam Darnold got thrown out there too. It was starting to work our time. I think we asked you about that like a week ago and you puked memes. But that's just as a bridge and none of this is going to happen because we're just going to draft someone who's going to suck.
memes You know that's the difference between like American sports fans and European sports fan European sports fans if if they had a Jets doing this to them They would write. Yeah, there would be like stones thrown at cars. They would not they don't put up with shit over there No, you're right. We just take it people just keep buying tickets. Yeah buying jerseys We have made the playoffs in 14 years. Yeah went my entire 20s without seeing the Jets in a playoff It's just it's it's tough. Yeah, and now things are gonna change because the owner is still the same
Yep. We can say Hank. No, that sucks. I didn't think about the 20s. That's... Well, we're here 20s, like Hank. There's a decade to win. It's your 20s. But that's all right. 30s are fun, too. 30s are fun, too. Are you 30? I'm turning. When? March. So you got to win a playoff game this year. Wait, your whole point? Whole 20s. They just haven't been in the playoffs since I was a sophomore in high school.
I can't stop. Stop it, Hank. Wow. Stop it. I hope, I hope, I hope memes that you get to see the playoff one. I truly do. I don't think, I don't think it could ever happen. Yeah. Well, yeah, you got to figure out coach too, and your number one's for Abe's. Yeah. I mean, memes, I've been to the playoffs, but yeah, I mean, we're not, we've talked about it.
The same dysfunction happens in both places. They're a little bit different because the Jets dysfunction is more all in and then they fall on their face. The Bears dysfunction is more, hey, let's hope we catch lightning in a bottle every now and then and then fuck it up. You guys actually take a shot.
Yeah. Well, that's the one thing about this year. We did. Yeah. You do appreciate the effort of trying to go on. Correct. Right. But it was just the biggest disaster of all time. Yeah. Man, what are you going to say, man? Plaps are overrated.
Yeah. You just, well, Hank's not allowed to say that. No. Cause losing sucks. Yeah. Getting to the playoffs, getting your hopes up and then losing is so much pain. Yeah, but going on a run is so much fun. Yeah. Getting to the playoffs is fun. You got it. I, yeah. Yeah. This is a loser talk. Yes. 100%. Hank, guilty is charged. Hank, playoffs are overridden. There you go.
That's okay being mediocre. Oh bad. I'm I feel great. All right. Speaking of playoffs. Should we talk some college football? Should we talk some college football? We have the rankings out the rankings. Let me I just had him in front of me and then I just lost them.
here they are it is right now the playoff bracket would be one seed Oregon two seed Texas three seed Miami four seed Boise State because BYU just lost then it would be home game for Ohio State against BYU home game for Notre Dame against Alabama that would be awesome home game for Penn State against Georgia and home game for Indiana verse Ole Miss so
We're two weeks, three weeks, really, because we have the conference championships away from the first 12 team playoff bracket. I like how everyone's getting upset. What are your initial thoughts, PFT? My initial thoughts are it's fun to be mad about a hypothetical list that will ultimately look much different in two weeks. So yeah, get your anger out somehow. There's a lot less. It's probably healthy to get some of this anger that's pent up out.
There is some anger that I guess could be pointed towards. Who would you say would be like the most undeserving higher seat? A lot of people are looking at Ohio State, Indiana, because they're about to play this weekend. Yeah. Indiana fans still have a right to be upset. Here's what I'll say about Indiana.
get all of your hatred out right now, enjoy attacking the media for underwriting you, because you don't know what's gonna happen. There's a good chance you get your ass kicked by Ohio State this weekend. So take this time, savor every moment of hate that you get to have at the committee for not treating you properly with enough respect, because- Well, I think you're ranked fine right now. If you look at it, but I mean, they don't have a loss. You play who you play. Yeah, but this is also, remember, this is the rankings for the automatic qualifiers are one through four. Yeah. So they're ranked fine.
Like you see I'm saying like Boise is not Boise is not ranked higher than Indiana right now. They just are the automatic qualifier. No, I know that so the Indians ranked fifth. Yeah, where else would you rank them? I mean Penn State would be the only gripe you'd have but like
Yeah, I would. I think Indiana's ranked fine right now. The problem with Indiana is that Greg Sankey made a call to all of media on Monday and had everyone in the media bash them when they have their big game coming up against Ohio State and that makes no sense to me. Indiana has not played anyone. Indiana is an awesome story. Indiana is an underdog story. I'm rooting for Indiana.
Let them at least go play Ohio State before we say Indiana sucks. Like that was my problem. They have the game to play. They're going to play the game on Saturday. Let Indiana go play themselves. If they get killed, I have no problem if people want to say the Indiana with one loss shouldn't be in the playoff. Like I really won't if they get killed because they have not played anyone. But I want to see them play and compete. And I think they're going to hold them. I think they're going to do a good job staying in this game and maybe winning this game.
Yeah. So Indiana this weekend, I want them to win. I'm rooting for Indiana because I'm a fan of chaos first and foremost when it comes to all this college football talk. I'm rooting for the double doomsday scenario where the big 12 doesn't even get anybody in. That would, that is a possibility. It's unlikely. It's very, it's pretty unlikely. But it could happen. I mean, at the start of the season, we were saying that there's no chance that a group of five gets a buy in the playoff.
Yeah, but that's become a possibility. Yes. Now we're realizing that the double doomsday is also a possibility. I think if you're an SEC team, if you end up with two losses and you're an SEC team, you really don't have a right to complain about anything. Unless you're Georgia.
Pot potential Georgia played a gauntlet schedule potentially Georgia now I understand that now I think Georgia might they might be the best team in the country right and they played they did put they played Ken Clemson non-conference they had to play all their tough games on the road I George is the only one but like
The big thing is my big takeaway from this entire week is everyone again, I think there was a coordinated hit against Indiana, which makes no sense to me because this is the last time they can say strength to schedule. Their strength to schedule is about to get a lot better because they're going to play Ohio State this weekend in Columbus.
Let them play on the field before we say they shouldn't be in if they get smoked on Saturday, then I'm fine They shouldn't be in but let them actually play and like when since when did we not like these underdog stories? Actually, I kind of know the answer that it's pretty much the minute the underdog takes the blue bloods away Which is like what happens in all sports like we root for the underdog and then if the blue blood blood gets Squeezed out or like no, we don't want this underdog anymore
Texas and Penn State have been hiding behind their resumes for the entire time, and no one's saying anything about that. So is hiding behind just like a multi-decade resume? Yeah. At this point, because if Texas loses, if they should be out, then they should be out, right? A hundred percent. A two-loss Texas team does. They have no big wins. They don't have their best win is what in Michigan? No, Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt? Yeah.
Yeah. And Penn State is the same way. I know, Max, you don't like hearing that, but Penn State, like a hundred percent. They're hiding in place like the, the, the ire has been in Indiana when it's like, how about Texas and Penn State? I have been saying, we've been talking about this all day in the office. I need Ohio State to beat the shit out of Indiana. Right. Because then that problems arise for Penn State, I think.
Right. If Indiana wins this game or yeah, because there could be yeah, but Texas Penn State will not lose a game probably. I think that's not easy. Yeah, that's not easy. And then they play I think finished with Maryland. Texas could easily lose Texas A&M. It is a mess everywhere. I just didn't like the coordinated hit on Indiana. And I do have something very funny to share with you guys. This made me laugh.
So, Indiana Twitter, shout out to them. They've been fighting really hard and they've been going after people and I respect it. This guy, fifth ranked Indiana edits. I'm just going to assume he's a stoolie. Maybe not. But anyway, he said he posted a group chat with his friends that said, we need to get Dan Docketch involved in this SEC fight. Let's bring out the big guns.
Gotta find a way to show the SEC is woke. And then, uh, Chris DePlant wrote, he quote, treated Risillo and McShea talking, he said, Hey, Docchich, the West Coast, California liberals are trying to steal another election, handing out a participation trophy to a two loss SEC team is utter woke nonsense. Do something. And then,
Like five minutes my ass quote treated the same tweet and said dudes that were this about Russell McShae dudes that were never in a locker room other than to take a peek get an autograph or take a picture It's just like mission accomplished got him played college football Yeah, there's a quarterback, right? Yeah, yeah, but it was so funny. They weaponized it I mean you do it. We're still a lives in locker rooms. They're usually at an equinox, but he's always in lock room
Yeah, I just loved it. So shout out Indiana fans fighting the good fight on Twitter. I also love Joe Galloway. This is like this is brain rot. So college football has their brain rot and it's reached its peak with Joe Galloway who says that Indiana should consider benching their quarterback Curtis Rourke against Ohio State to avoid a repeat of what happened last year with FSU. Yep. And they're quarterback getting injured at the end of the season.
That's, it's broken everybody's brain. And what I love about the college football playoff is you have, you expand the arguments. So there was in theory an argument that you could have every year about the 14 playoff. And now you've just got so many other schools making a case that they deserve to be in it. Yada, yada, yada. My resume is better than this resume. But at the end of the day, you can tell those teams that are bitching if they get left out. You should have won more games.
You should have won more games and that's about as simple as it gets. And you can do it with almost like, listen, I think Tennessee is a very good team. Obviously, it didn't go well for them in Georgia. Tennessee, you lost to Arkansas. Arkansas is not good. I get it. You play a tough schedule. Alabama, you lost to Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt had a nice run there, but they're not going to finish it. If you have two losses and one of them isn't the best loss, that's why Georgia has two bad, bad losses.
Yeah. Well, wait, they lost. Yeah. Let's use the bad loss now. I mean, it was, that was a crazy game. That was a pure Saturday night in Baton Rouge game. Kentucky's a bad loss. Kentucky's a bad loss. So yeah, it's just like you and I get it. Indiana, the one thing I like about like people complain about the unbalanced schedule. Now I kind of like it just because a team like Indiana can have a season like this where the schedule bounces their way and still they have to prove it. They have to prove it in Columbus on Saturday. So wait, were you saying Joey Galloway further on that?
No, I was done with Joey Galloway. I just think it's funny that he's reached that point where he's like thinking through these scenarios to the point where he's got. It's that meme of the guy that his brain is so big that he's playing chess against his own brain. That's what Joey Galloway is doing. I was going to talk about Georgia again real quick because I think Georgia is the best team in the country. When it was Texas and Georgia playing, I said that Texas was wrong about that. But the more I've watched Georgia, the more I've kind of, since there's no real dominant team in the SEC this year,
Uh, I think Georgia at their best beats any team at their best. I think Georgia at their worst also beats any team at their worst. Like the floor for Georgia is higher than any other team's floor. And I think that Georgia, like medium Georgia probably beats everybody at their medium, except for maybe Alabama. I was going to say counterpoint in Alabama. They literally can't beat Alabama.
yeah alabama that's what that was a weird game because you had but i'm saying like you had alabama at their past and georgia at their worst in the first half yeah then it flip-flopped at the in the second half but i can't beat alabama i think the way that that georgia's been playing recently i think they are the best team in the country
But they're not, they're not a perfect team. I think Oregon's pretty damn good too. And I go, Ohio State's pretty damn good. This is why I like 12 team playoff. I think there's a lot of good. Ole Miss is, Ole Miss's defensive line can wreck anyone. Like there's, there's something for about like seven or eight teams where I'm like, yeah, if they do, even, even in Miami who I don't think is great, like their defense is great. Cam Ward can win a playoff game, you know? That's what I love about this. I also have no idea how to handicap a matchup between Oregon and Georgia.
No idea. That to me, they might as well be playing in two different countries. Yeah. Like I don't, my brain can't comprehend what that match up would even look like. I know Oregon didn't look great against Wisconsin on Saturday. That was kind of like Wisconsin was throwing everything they had in them.
That was their A straight game. That was the longest streak of games without a bye week in the country. You could see that they were kind of running out of gas. All in conference to think, right? Yeah. They were running out of gas, so I wasn't shocked that they played with fire there. I still think Oregon's very, very good. And they also, they have some of their guys, I think they're running back to Sud. They have them on load management, basically. The end of that game, they'll stop doing that once they get to the playoffs.
The end of that game was insane when Dan Lanning faked a punt. Yeah. That was, that was so stupid. I think that's probably eight games. His brain is probably exhausted at this point. Yeah. Cause that was some dumb shit that he tried to pull. You got away with it. Yes. Troll, you had a question. Go ahead, troll.
No, I want to ask it then. No, no, no. I want it. I want the troll question. You raise your hand. Come out of the, we need like a graphic where he like, he, he comes out from under. What do you want me to do? I want it. This is what I want. I want trolling. Okay. I want to ask your non-troll question. I want it. I want the question. Troll or troll, you are dismissed. Henry Lockwood. Do you have a question? I want the question. I will go sit, Max, and come sit in the couch. I'll go sit in the booth. Yeah. I want to sit. Like I don't know what I'm supposed to do sitting in the seat.
You're doing it. You're doing a great job, but I'm not rolling. But when you do troll, you do a great job. Like that's what the people want. What did you think about Oregon flipping the jump around on Wisconsin by just going absolutely nuts? What do you mean? The fans? No, the players. Yeah. A lot of teams do that. Oh, yeah. You thought they took back jump around? They kind of did. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, I know Maxine thinks so. Guess what? Madison with the new teams and from the West Coast, there was a lot of Oregon fans there. Madison's a great college town. Everyone puts it on their list of places they want to go see. So we have a lot of fans show up. My buddy was there. He said there was an Oregon fans everywhere. Bucket list. I was just curious. Okay. That wasn't troll. Never is. How you're washing huskies doing? Bad. Yeah.
Play spoiler this week. That's, that's the other thing I want to say just in defense in Indiana. I know I'm defending Indiana a lot. You don't know year to year what your schedule is going to look like. Everyone, everyone who had Florida State on their schedule this year thought I understand what you're going to say. They did, they did cancel a game against Louisville for Western Illinois. That does, that does hurt their case, but they had on their schedule, Michigan and Washington, two teams that were in the national championship last year.
Two teams that their coaches left and their programs completely took a big step back. You can't really predict that part. I'm rooting very hard for Indiana. You're going to say the Western Illinois thing, which is fair. Yeah, I learned about that like an hour ago. Oh no, that's Louisville fans are all up in Indiana's face.
Kurt Signetti was not the one who canceled the game. Yeah, but in Indiana's defense, like Indiana, if you look at their schedule this year compared to what Indiana has played in the past, you can't write any of these games down as easy wins for Indiana. No. Like going into this season under a normal Indiana football team,
This is a hard schedule for us because they have not been good at football and they turned it around and they are very good at football I don't think that this is a fluke either. Yeah, they got they got good players. They got a great coach Just got an extension by the way. Yeah, which I mean extensions in college football It really means he got a temporary raise at least for the next like month And then he's probably free to go anywhere he wants it to like that contract on fire, but yeah
Um, yeah, they're, I mean, nothing that they've done this year to me screams fluke at all. I think Signeti is, uh, he's a real deal. What, what, what are you looking to schedule next year? Well, this was just what somebody else was. Oh yeah, that's not a good guy. They don't conference. They're non-con, they, they've, they've skipped non-conference. They decided to elect out of non-conference games. They do have to go to Oregon and Penn State last year. ODU, Old Dominion.
Can I saw, yeah, can I saw a state? Can I saw a state won one game this year, then they fired their coach. The tour of their program. Yeah, Indiana State Sycamores. Yeah, yeah, that's fair. They don't, they skipped, they skipped on conference. I wish Wisconsin wouldn't play Alabama at a home and home. That sucks. That sucks. I'd rather have that be a win. We'd be bowl eligible right now. But you know what? There's really no need to schedule a tough out of conference schedule with a 12 team playoff.
Well, you could make the case. Yes, you should, because if Indiana had played and beaten Louisville and then they lose to Ohio State, they would still have a case to be in the 12 team playoff. If they lose to Ohio State and they have no signature win, no big win, it's going to be harder to make that case.
I would like to see an idiot in it. Yeah, but you sure I'm saying, I know if they believe in earlier, they would have a lot better of a chance. But if you schedule, if you schedule hard games for yourself out of comfort, it just makes it more likely that you're going to take away the possibility of you being in the playoff.
Yeah. I mean, that's loser tough. It's coward's way out. Those cowards, that's it's coward's. But guess what? The cowards way out is working right now. Well, no, it could backfire on them. If they get exposed. If they lose to a house state by law, it actually will be the wrong approach because playing in beating Louisville would have gotten them in. You're banking on the opportunity to get kicked out by your one tough loss that you have and then spending the time getting mad at the committee for not putting you in, even though you only have one loss. Right.
which in as a loser is a pretty satisfying way to deal with it. Yeah. Um, the big 12. So the big 12 could be left out. I still don't think it's going to happen. BYU lost to Kansas, which, uh, BYU's been playing with fire for a long time. Now we have Arizona state who is a great story and, uh, has been playing great ball, could give BYU their second loss this weekend because they have to go down to Tempe. And I'm
Our Colorado and Travis Hunter going to Kansas who's playing great balls ball as well is going to be a tough one. The big 12 just eats itself alive. Also shout out Kenny Dillingham, the coach of Arizona State. He's the guy who you're going to try out for in the off season.
Yeah, I've been working out. He's awesome. I've been working the leg out the last couple days back on the Peloton. I think I can get up. What if I, 40, 40 yards by my 40th birthday? Yeah, I love that. Is that good enough? I love that. Study law at Arizona State. Sure. They've got a good program right now. Yeah, they've got every recipe, prisco. What do you think that a law degree from Arizona State would get me? What would my hourly rate be?
You'd be like, hundred bucks? Good ambulance. Well, I only know one person who went to Arizona State and he's got issues. I feel like, a lot of degree from Arizona State DUI specialist. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I think that might be my goal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the big 12 is gonna be chaotic. This is what the big 12 is built on parody, the big 12 is built on the chaos, the big 12's chaos. I very unlikely, but could fuck them.
What are the chances? It's probably unlikely, but Oklahoma State is having just an awful season. Yes. They are shitty. Gundy's going to stick around for forever, right? Yeah. And still water. Yeah. He's not going anywhere. No. No matter how shitty it gets. No. Not. Well, I mean, unless he wants to leave. Yeah. No. Jets? My goodness. Jets?
not a troll oh I mean I mean memes I was so perfect because he's like there's that fine line of him being like you guys accused me of being in trouble that he can't help dude Mike Gundy in New York would be so funny
The game's also is going off on Resini back here right now. Seriously, where is she getting these sources? Where is she getting these sources? Why does that make any sense? We just beat the shit out of the Patriots before that game. I'm going to go. I'm going to go out on a limb. I don't have any, I don't have any recini sources on this. But you are a recini source. No, but I'm saying I've not contacted my sources at Resini Incorporated.
but I'm gonna guess with the timing of everything, maybe Joe Douglas was a source. You think?
memes it's just a little far-fetched to believe because they just beat the shit out of the Patriots on prime time the week before and they lost because of a missed field goal which would have made it a 12 to 10 ring win rain okay that really was the game that ended everything everything
Uh, means, uh, Mike under. Yeah, no, yeah. You declined Mike Gundy. Mike Gundy. Bith Poggi. Bring him on in. Dude, he's the best. So he was fired at Charlotte all time football guy. He's the dude that coaches and the, the cut off like the sleeveless vest on the sidelines.
And is like independently, very wealthy. Yeah, they, they brought him back to practice this week. Yeah. Do you see that? Yeah. They let, even though they fired him last week, they let him come onto the practice field and address the team this week. Say goodbye. Yeah. Which is, I guess it's pretty cool for Charlotte because he seems like a cool guy. Yeah. Memes, would I actually expect the Jets to try to do possibly Cliff Kingsbury? Hmm. I saw people say that. No.
It's tough bringing up scenarios to memes because he lives online. So no matter what scenario you bring up to him, he's like, yeah, I saw some tweets saying that earlier. I've seen most scenarios and I don't like most of them. Okay. Mike Vrayable is the only one. I don't even think we would ruin Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson would come in and he would just be Adam Gaze 2.0. There's no chance Vrayable would go into that situation. No. Yeah, no. Adam Gaze 2.0. He would want you to run it back.
Stop. Hyperdrive. Hyperdrive. Come on. I don't think there's a coach that wants to coach the Jets that will be the Jets who had Coach next year. Wait, say that again.
There's not a coach out there that wants to coach the coach. The kid that's here won't want to coach jets. It'll just be the only available job open because they want to be a head coach. So there's, so it kind of sounds like you're saying there's no one out there who wants to coach the jets. Correct.
That's an easier way to say it. I like the way I do. You got to find like a special teams coach that nobody knows about, but is like a great leader of men. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, memes, again, we're in the same spot. I do not think that like the bears will get the first. No, no, no, no, no, no. You have a rookie quarterback who still has a potential. But my point is I don't, the bears will
The number one choice the Bears could make, they'll say we're not going to interview him because he's too much of a man. The number two choice will probably say, I don't want to coach for the Bears because that's a disadvantage. Number three choice, we'll be like, I'm going to go do this. We'll get the fourth or fifth. We're not a, we're not the top choice. Yeah, we're not top choice. Right. We never been the top choice team, but you're definitely a more attractive choice than you. Yes. But we're not a top choice team.
That's a fact. Is there a college coach? I feel like that's where the Jets are at. The Jets are at that point. Every franchise has been through this. You try every other way. You try to get guys that you think might be sure if I are hits and none of them work out. And then you say, oh, fuck it. I'll try to get a hot shot college coach. And we'll just see if that works, even though it has never worked with the exception of maybe Harbaugh. But I guess Harbaugh was like a college coach. Pete Carroll, yeah, but he also had a previous stint in the NFL.
For the Jets. Yeah. The Jets tried doing with Pete Carroll. Good point. Jimmy Johnson. Lulled. Lulled. Yes. Great NFL career. Yes. You guys want to hear finish the college football talk with one of the craziest stats I've ever seen? Sure.
Not Travis Hunter, who should be the Heisman. He needs to be, we need to run. He's be Kansas. Kansas is very good now. It was a great, great touchdown running ahead. By the way, how sick this is a really stupid thought, but how thick sick would it be if the commanders drafted the Kansas quarterback as the backup?
Yeah, no, I don't want that because I was getting. I was rooting for Kansas on Saturday night when I was watching the game just because they kept saying Jalen Daniels and it made me feel like half excited. Yeah, it would be cool. It would be cool. Yeah. Here's the crazy stat. So Kentucky is playing Texas this weekend.
That is the farthest West Kentucky football has ever played a football game. Oh wow. Good set. That's crazy. It's like half the country. Half the country. Kentucky has never played a football game West of Austin, Texas. Not even a bowl game. Nope. That's nuts. Not even a bowl game. Not even a bowl game.
This is from Ryan Davis. What was the previous record? Was that it was a Baton Rouge? They played. They played in Austin like 40 years ago. So they're matching their previous. Well, depending on where the stadium is, I think DKR has been in the same spot. Okay. But did they add to it? They did add to it. Do they add to it west?
They built a highway and overpassed next to it. But I don't know if they moved it. If they did move it, I think they would have moved it a little bit northwest because there's another field next to it. Yeah. So it could possibly be the furthest they've ever gone. UK's last game at Texas was 73 years ago. That's crazy. So this is the furthest that was Bear Bryant coaching them. Bear Bryant was a Kentucky coach in 1951.
That's just nuts to me. Never played a game further west than Austin, Texas. Okay. Darrell K. Royal Stadium has been home to the Longhorn football team since 1924. Okay. So I'm thinking it has not moved. But have they added to the stadium, which I assume they did, they add to the stadium. So the fans might be the furthest away from Kentucky, but I don't know where they walked in.
Has the entrance changed? Is it further west than east? I think the entrance is on the south side. Okay. I'm not sure though. I'll get boots on the ground to answer this and on. Yeah, find out if there's any orientation in the field that's changed at all. Okay. Yeah, like even if they changed the layout of the field and one of the end zone goes like five feet further west. I'm looking at the furthest west they've ever played. Right now I'm actually looking at the history of the renovations at DKR Stadium.
They added sweets and when was it the date of that 1951 1951 anything post 1951 here They added lights so that was a day game. Okay This is the important stuff. I'm not I Think it might be because they expanded both end zones. Okay, so the walk-in Is gonna be further away no matter what okay?
So yeah, we might have something. Okay. You're watching history when you watch that game. Yep. Okay. Last thing before we kick it to ourselves, Hank, good job. We're going to talk about the Cavs with Pat Bev, but you broke up the Cavs. Yep. Pop the champagne. NBA Cup. They actually are very fun games. It does feel like they try harder.
I will say two things because there has been also a lot of talk and reports about the NBA ratings being down and ask people, you know, asking what the cause is. I do like the NBA Cup. It makes it important. The Celtics lost the game last week to the Hawks and never should have lost. And all of a sudden, if they had lost tonight, then they would be screwed for the NBA Cup, which is crazy, but it made tonight's game that much more interesting. I do not like the court. I don't like, I don't, I think for a casual fan,
It's going to take a while for them to get the NBA Cup. It just doesn't help. It's like, what is wrong with this court? Then you have to explain this whole long NBA Cup thing, not a fan of the court. I disagree. I also hate. Wait, wait, are you not a fan of the court? Are you not a fan of explaining to people? The courts, I just don't like personally watching them. And then it's like, why are they doing this? And they say it's because it's for the NBA Cup. I just don't think that's ever going to click to a casual fan. Like, ooh, new court.
I like it because it feels different. I like it because it comes with some nice timelapses. You get to watch when you see them changing the chord out. And the game feels different. It looks like you're watching it on Twitch. It looks like it's in a Twitch streamers room.
Yeah. And I just hate the Celtics City Connect jerseys this year. What are they? They're they're they're Oregon jerseys. I don't understand the like city connect. We're going to connect it back to a city. The Celtics have had the same jersey and like scheme forever. And they just made jerseys. They legitimately look like Oregon. Yeah, I don't love the the the the crazy jerseys in the NBA. It's too many. And the Cavs were playing on on Sunday and they were in blue jerseys. Like we've talked about it before. But it's like when you turn on a game, you can't tell what the teams are unless you look at the scorebook. Like that's a problem.
It was when the heat were wearing a yellow jersey and looked like the Pacers that I was like, this is too much. And it was, I think the Blazers and Nuggets were playing and the Nuggets were wearing the Blazers colors. Either way, we are doing, we're running a contest. So we released our picks. We told you last week we released our picks on socials every single Tuesday for our NBA Cup picks. So far we have the first day, so this is in counting what's playing right now.
I'm three no PFTs two and one Hank's two and one max you're one and two so here's the bottom of both Yeah, and we're recording this late right now some I just got absolutely fucked and my my pick for tonight. Okay, so But the NBA Cup you can bet on in draft Kings and you can follow our picks and we're running a competition So we'll have the updated leaderboard. I think I went two and one. I'm gonna be three and three. I went one and two. Yeah, I'm still waiting on the the Spurs thunder
I like the NBA Cup though. It does feel different. There's November NBA is tough to get into and then you turn on the TV and it's different court. You're like, oh, okay. They're trying a little harder. I want to win it. No teams ever won the NBA Cup and the finals. So you don't lose finals after. Are you counting it retro? No, no, no, no. We have to win the finals after. Yeah, same year. Yeah. Chris Paul has five assists. I need two more. It's halftime. I'm just going to count that as a win. Oh, so I'm two and oh congrats from one and one right now. I need AD tonight.
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did a Photoshop of him wearing a bald cap and posted that. Yes. And that was his way to show it. Crazy, crazy, crazy move. Wait, it was a photo. He did a Photoshop of him wearing a bald cap. He put on a bald cap. Right. And then he also photoshopped it.
to make it look even extra bold. Extra bold, more bold. I think he, I think he photoshopped where the lines on the bald cap are. Yeah. Sounds like- Do you think he's face-tuned, yeah. Insane move. Maybe his heart was in the right place. I don't think so. I don't know. Couldn't cut his hair off for his friend. Well, I'll say this. I'll say this. There's one very lucky woman that's made the right decision, not having to hang around that guy, stay most anymore. That would be Rebecca Romain. Yeah. Talk about an upgrade moving on to JOC. I had it as my cool throne for JOC.
Cool throw on JOC, JOC is a stand up guy. JOC would never do that. JOC is the... JOC would just shave his head. Yeah, 100%. Or just make a joke about how he's not going to shave his head. Right, and it would make it very funny, and it would probably, JOC making you laugh with cure cancer.
Yeah, like that's how funny he is. Bing-bong Jesse. Yeah. I like it. Yeah, he would. He would look at it. He'd be like, Bing-bong cancer. You're out. Bing-bong. This is Rebecca, you know, Rebecca, Johnny. This was crazy though. Like the fact that he did this, I guess the only little small part is that he admitted to it. Like it would have been worse if he had just pretended that he shaved his head, but still. An insane, insane move. You, I mean, just,
How big of a narcissist do you have to be? Extremely. That's really what it is. It's like, it is the, how do I make this about me? Right. Don't even just don't even... Or just shave your head. Or just don't shave your head, which you didn't do. And just don't wear bald cap and be like, I'm here visiting my friend. I hope he gets better. Crazy. Also, his culture is not your cost. Right. Yeah. Some guys look better with a shaved head hank. Thank you. One of them. Max. He looks like just an evil, like an alien billionaire. He's a penis head.
What a dick.
JOC made me chuckle pretty hard Monday night. He just tweeted like need 44 from mixing tonight. He almost got it. Yeah. But that's just like a that's a very like fantasy Monday night. Yeah. Yeah. Just let me I got one guy left just need a 44. Yeah. And we're we win this week. Yeah. He we're going to have JOC on I think next week for an update on the fantasy. I miss JOC. Yeah. We're going to have him because I know people in asking. My cool throw is Paul Skeens. Yeah. That was he stole my shit.
Was he in the hot seat though? He was on the cool throne. She had two cool thrones. I had two cool thrones. I thought I was going to be okay. And it turns out I'm not. So Paul Skeen's great speech last night. Can we play it? He was... Yeah, I don't want it. Is it going to take too long? It probably will. Max is really bad at this.
Notice the speed skill goes on for a while. Oh, I thought you meant Max pulling it up. No, it's I don't know if we have that in that memory on the on the SD card. But yeah, really hard for us. Oh, we don't sound again. Wait, hit the sound thing. Yeah, there you go, producer. Yep. I was waiting for a good time for you to start playing it. Guy. Guy. Guy. Yeah, come on, Guy. From all of us, what does this honor mean to you right now? This is cool.
That's it. He crushed it. So good. This is cool.
What more do you need to say? You know what? That was cool. It was cool. And what more do you need to say? Yeah, this is cool. We don't need victory speeches where guys get up there and they misuse the word humble a million times. Like every single award show, it's literally them sucking your dick and God's dick and giving you an award for being great and being better than everybody else. And then you get behind the microphone and you're like, yeah, now that you guys have all told me how great I am, the first word that comes to mind is humble.
Yeah. Yeah. The, the, the meme of, uh, Paul Skeens winning the rookie of the year and Paul Skeens sitting in a fire truck. He's so much happier to be in a fire truck, but that's, that's what fire trucks do to people. Yeah. Fire trucks are fucking cool. So did you catch school? Is that now with this?
when they they draw the whole thing out. So tonight, if you're listening to this tonight, uh, Terrick scuba will win the Al Sayang. What is it? Like the 12 days of Christmas? It's crazy. I've been waiting for this forever. Uh, shout out the AWL. I got to track him down who handed me a envelope on when we were in Detroit for the draft and I opened the, he handed to me, walked away, opened it and said, take Terrick scuba plus 400 to win the Sayang.
It's fucking great. Why doesn't Major League Baseball do this like in the middle of the playoffs? I know. Or before the playoffs start. Or just do like... Or do it all in one night. There was like an Major League Baseball in California. Yeah. It's the same thing that they have going on. They're like counting all the baseball writers' signatures and matching them up to make sure the mail-in ballots are legit. There was a... I want to say there was some type of event going on in Vegas with all the baseball players. Why didn't they just do all the announcements then?
It makes no sense. It makes no sense Doesn't all yeah, shout out that AWL. I gotta find it. I'm gonna find the original tweet Just been sitting there for six months, but he nailed it Imagine if he doesn't win. I mean you've jinxed this as much as I mean he was my he was minus two thousand the last time you could bet on it He has to win it
Yeah, that would be insane if he didn't win it. I would be like voter fraud. This is unjinxable. Yeah, what are his, I mean, you're good. Shut up. I hate that you just did that. Yeah, his last odds were minus five thousand eight hundred and two. Is that right? Is that possible? Would they take that's on that? I mean, if he loses there's someone in MLB's out to get me. You know what? I might I might fucking load up and see if I can just make some quick money on minus five thousand.
Yeah, let's go. We're giving that out. I'm giving that out as an official pick. That's my own pick. An official pick. How much money can I deposit into the responsibly? I don't think it's actually... I don't think it's up anymore. I'm just going to see. Hey, can you try to pull those odds up? Yes, I'll not. Okay. But let the records show I would have endorsed that pick. Yes.
My hot seat is the Utah hockey club. Peace. You piece of shit. You don't even have a fucking name. What kind of professional sports organization goes entire season just naming themselves after the sport?
Alexander Vechkin was taken out by Dirty Need a Knee hit last night after scoring two goals, getting within 27 goals of tying Wayne Gretzky's all-time record, excuse me, 26th of tying the record, 27th of passing the all-time goals record.
And he was on the best streak of his life, the way that OV started the season out, 39 years old top goal score in the NHL. The caps are on fire right now and OV is just insane. And how many, so is he hurt? Yeah, they said week to week, lower leg injury. I looked at every single online Twitter doctor out there.
And they came to the conclusion probably a torn MCL or sprained MCL, which is the same thing, depending on what grade the spray is. So he's week to week now, which probably means he'll be out for, I don't know, three weeks. But Ovi's different. Yeah. Russian machine never break. That was his famous quote when they asked him how he's been able to stay healthy throughout his career.
So I'm just going to hope and pray that whatever Putin's got left in the vault, he can send over, just inject it directly into OV's knee. The, that's the worst too. Cause you can never figure out what a hockey injury is. No, just know, they will give no details. Nothing. You can't even see like when, when a guy gets hit, he's got so many pads on that you can't, you know, where we zoom in on like a football player or basketball player, like, Oh, that's exactly what it was. You just have no idea.
Yeah, and then I was watching right afterwards, he goes back on the ice to try to skate on it, see if he can do it. And you're hockey tough, and it looks like he's skating around, but in reality, he's just like barely touching one leg down, and I'm like, oh, he can skate. No, you forget that they're wearing ice skates, and so they can just glide on the other leg.
Yeah, it's not good. Bad for hockey, I would say. Yeah, I'd agree. I had done the math on this last night when he was on his tear. And on this pace, you know, when he would have broken Wayne Gretzky's record? When? It would have been at Edmonton. Mm. Felt like that was set up. And he was going to break it up. Are you talking about this, like, two goals a game pace that he's been? No, no, I took it. My own, I did my own... Your translator, Hank. Well, no, but like... I did my own pace. I saw, yeah, I saw your tweet and I was like that.
Did you start at Edmonton and work your way back? No, I did. I did that my second time to see if I could like increase the pace or decrease the pace. It was like, will my break the record this year? That'd be crazy. And PFT was like January 21st.
My pace, my pace that I had him on, had him scoring, I think it was like 0.75 goals per game. Okay. Which is taken, it's not as good of a pace as he's been on. So at that pace, he would have broken it at Edmonton. Right now, I don't know if he's gonna break it this season, which it stinks to maybe have to wait another year for this. And people forget, Ovi lost to a full year to the first rock lockout. And then I think he lost like 50 games to the second lockout.
Plus COVID lost games to that too. So he's actually he is on pace right now to break Gretzky's record in fewer games than Gretzky played in Which is kind of crazy, but it is crazy always been so much fun to watch his entire his entire career. He was like the one bright light and
that DC Sports had for a very long time. So I've been counting down to this for like the last seven years once it was theoretically possible. So it stinks that those bastards in Utah sent a hit out. Gretzky's got shooters. I wouldn't be surprised if Gretzky told Biz, like, hey, can you get on the horn with some of the guys that are up in Utah? I know you know a lot of them from your time in Arizona. Could you have, I blame Biz.
This is on fairs. That's fair. Dirty guy. Fucking fairs. Another hot seat is Netflix because they're under a lot of pressure right now from the NFL to make sure that they don't fuck up the Christmas Day stream like they did the Jake Paul, Mike Tyson fight. Antonio Brown could save their ass. How? He livestreamed from his phone, the Jake Paul, Mike Tyson fight, and he had seven million people watching. It's pretty good.
He's taking a little pressure off him. So he was live streaming from his net. I think no, I think he was in the arena. He was just doing the video board. I love that. Seven million people were watching. I love that. Did Antonio Brown have something to do with the roof panels falling off? I don't know. Wouldn't surprise me. No. Yeah. So Netflix is in trouble because Christmas Day with Beyonce concert at halftime, probably going to have more viewers. I think the Jake Paul, it's going to be close because that fight did numbers.
Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be close. I don't know 60 was 60 million Was the total they were watching so might not be average NFL game is what 20 million?
I feel like this fight was like 34, 36 million. I don't know what the name is more than that. I think it was. I saw 60 as well. Either way, you have to figure it out. They can figure it out. Yeah, they absolutely can. And I guess that would be cool throwing an NBA for Christmas day. Oh, you might be getting more ratings. No, cocked. No, people would rather watch the wheel spinning. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, how are you going to compete with Beyonce? Although the, I don't know that thing. No, it's Steelers Chiefs. The Thanksgiving games suck.
Whoa, one of them suck. One of them is good. Which one is the Packers' Dolphins? Packers' Dolphins. It's pretty good, I guess. Yeah. But yeah, the other one's suck. Hypothetically bears lions. Sucks. Hypothetically, if the stream was not working on Netflix on Christmas Day,
Let's say 12 o'clock central time. That's when you're supposed to start, we tune in, we start to watch. It doesn't work for anybody. Does the NFL just delay the game until it can get broadcast? Or do they play it? No, because in those situations, the tech guys are like, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine. Yeah, and all business P is sitting there being like, it's fine. I don't see any issues. People are saying that it's fine. I can get on my phone right here in the stadium. Yeah.
Like seriously, that would be an interesting problem for the NFL to have. I think that they would delay the game. I think they would delay it as long as it took to get a broadcast, right? Yeah. Because you can't play a football game and not have it be on TV. I'd agree. I'd agree. I'd agree. Why can't they just get?
the Amazon guys and just be like, hey, help us. Yeah, just do it. We'll pay you. Basil saying like that. Basil saying like that. They're all different production. That's true. Just get a bigger router.
Why now? Because Bezos wanted this game. Like, it's like they competed, Netflix won the rights to Christmas. Hey, we cucked, you've got these rights, but now actually we need your help. Yeah. They're gonna be like, sure. They're gonna be a suck my dick. I feel like there's gotta be like a different production team that can put this. I don't know that it's a production team. I think it's the server's infrastructure. They need a bigger router. Yeah. Right.
and get a bigger router. Yeah, I think Amazon would be like, no, absolutely. Amazon has to like fuck you for even asking us that question. Amazon has all the servers. Do you think Pete could do it? No. Absolutely not. He had the servers. Yeah, I guess if he had the servers. I feel like Pete could do it. No. No. It's just servers. It's servers. Pete, I want you to know that I think that you could do it. I think Pete would know issues? No issues. Pete's. Also can we get pug and chain some computers?
I think you could definitely do it. Everyone tweet, everyone tweet all business Pete when you're listening to this and say, uh, pug and chain. They have tweet. No, they don't have the desktops. You don't have me to get the desk. I know. I know. And Pete also, I think Pete has, uh, some free month trials for Netflix. So if anyone wants it for the, uh, game, tweet them and ask for a code. Yeah. Netflix codes. Yeah. I like how Hank said that Netflix bought the rights to Christmas.
They did. Christmas is owned by Netflix. They did. The handle is at all business Pete. All at all business Pete tweet him. Do you think, uh, I mean, the craziest part about what Netflix did to Christmas and the NBA is that they put it on their own app where you can't even flip back and forth to the NBA games. Yeah. It takes you 30 seconds. When the, when the people multiple TVs get, get a nice win. Yep. Get a nice win. Uh, okay. You're cool. Throw.
My cool throne is the U.S. men's national team and their new coach, Puchatino, because he beat Jamaica four to two. And some tournament that I always forget the name of involving the words, nations, league, conca, calf, champions tournament. So they won four to two with Burr halter in the stands. They made Burr halter go out and watch the game, cocked him. He sat in a little cuck chair in the corner and watched Peppy and P. Sillich dominate, just crushed Jamaica.
is is not to get political, but the Trump celebration is pretty fun. How the guy everyone's doing it is pool such getting under fire. He did it. I don't think he's get I don't know if he's getting under fire. I've seen more people saying like what will it's going to be fun to watch lives freak out about.
Yeah, and I feel like it's just a fun celebration. I think it's just a fun dance to do. Yeah, you just do this. Anyone can do it. Yeah. Yeah, so they went forward to against Jamaica, which leads us to a fun fact that now the U.S. men's national team, and in fact, Greg Berhalter himself, who was fired in July of this year, he's got more wins in AT&T Stadium this year than Mike McCarthy and Dallas Cowboys. Wow.
Wait, who? Who does Greg Burr halter the fire more has more but that wasn't the game Obviously last night's they were playing football. They were playing football last night So he had already had he already has those ways. Yeah, even though he got fired in July got it Mike McCarthy will be fired Doesn't have as many wins even though he plays many more games. It is a fun fact I thought that was a fun fact very fun fact all right my hot seat is Well, we're gonna talk about it with Pat Bev but
I feel like we kind of glossed over it. This Tyrese Maxi Joel and Bead thing is feels for real. What happened? So Tyrese Maxi called out Joel and Bead in a meeting and said that he's late and disrespectful to everyone. I didn't realize that this is just like a well known fact that he's always done this. There was a book written what in 2015 where everyone was like, Joel and Bead is just a territory to work with feels like
Feels like things are bad right now. Maxine and Peter friends, they challenge each other often. What does that mean? Apparently it was a constructive meeting. What does that mean that they challenge each other? What about the 2017 comments? How many times did you practice this speech in the mirror before you sat down? Zero times. That's a, that's, that's fake. Maxine and Peter friends, they challenge each other. You had that ready to go. No, I mean, that's just, that's just a fact. We're both allegations from the past. What were the allegations in the past, Hank?
that he showed up late and then he was a terror to the whole staff. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What? It was basically say 2017 or whatever that book gives up. Whatever the fuck. I think that was maybe his rookie year. Yeah. It was when Brown was a coach and he was mad because all of his assistants came up to him and they're like, Hey, we have to have an intervention with you because Joel is such a huge asshole to everyone that we needed to escalate this to the head coach.
What's the date? We're worried about something 10 years ago? Nearly every member of the sixer staff basketball was awaiting him. Why are we here? Brown asked. He knew the meeting was about him beat, but didn't understand. One of the assistant coaches stood up and said, Coach, we're here because there's a problem with Joel. He's disrespected just about everyone in this room and has become a major distraction.
You want to say what's something about when you were 18 Frannie Leiden? No, I'm just saying. Oh, if it was still a problem 10 years later, then yeah, it's probably like a bad sign. Yeah, if Hank was still on. That's not a problem. Like him showing up late isn't that's different. You think that's not a problem? No, that. What about the sit people? I've said it wasn't a problem. But what about the people saying that this is maybe the first time in beads ever been challenged? That's a they it said in the thing that and Maxie and in Bead.
go back and forth at each other, because there's a mutual respect and friendship. Sounds like there's not a lot of respect for a beat. You know what? You guys, this is where the national podcast thing turns disgusting. Why did you just turn into the podcast thing? All right, fine. New segment alert, Hank. New segment. Podcast thing turns disgusting. Okay, new segment, regional podcast.
Philly. We're all right. Philly. Hey, hey, welcome back to locked on six or listen. Yeah, we're about to be losing the wizards and the standings, but like Joel's done so much for our cities, you know, so we got to give them some respect. I think it's disgusting with some of the reporters in the locker room. We're trying to divide us. I need to be unified and we're a great team. I don't think that we change anything. We don't change anything. So maybe we keep the fucking reporters out of the locker. Well, respectfully, Anthony and Gino. I disagree. Jerome beats a bum.
He's a bum. He doesn't respect the hard working people of Philadelphia. I get up. I get up every every morning five o'clock think about the construction workers and the trash workers and Joel B can't be there at 10 a.m. I go shoot around the problems the problems with Joel Started to get much more clear when Nick fucking Siriani walked through this door and he took his paws and put him all over a city and fucked it all up. Oh
Can't win a second round matchup, but he can give us an MVP. So, you know, you got to think about what he's given to us. No, let's lose our talk, Anthony. All right. How'd we do? Great. Really good. I love the fluff of you. It feels like a problem.
211 in this feels like a problem. Yeah. It's November 19th. Okay, so here's Max. Here's where I... Here's where I think the real problem is. I'm sure that conversations like this happen a lot in NBA locker rooms and we never hear about them. I'm sure they're commonplace. Yes, I agree with. But the fact that it got out, that tells me that there's something there.
Tells me that people are sick of his shit because usually it wouldn't get out if it Joe and beat is maybe Not been the best teammate shows up late whatever the story is but if he's playing well and the team's doing well that stuff never gets out He's playing poorly the team's playing poorly now the cracks start happening. Sorry playing
There's a mole. There's a mole in the organization, which, you know, we got to sniff out because that should never have gotten out. That's, that's correct. But what if this is the turning point of the whole season and then we look back to this moment. It's a strange turning point.
Yeah. Or tank, Cooper flag. Oh, no, no, no. All right, Max, you don't get to say that. You don't get to say that because when I said that I want Cooper flag and I'm projecting Cooper flag. This is true. You said we are out. You said the six are out. Yeah, it's true. I'm still in. You're out. Big cat could get him. I'm out. You said yourself. I said I was out. Yeah, but I know now I'm back in. No, you can't do that. No, that's illegal. That's illegal. I didn't realize I did that.
Yeah, you did. I was out too. I'm a man of my word. Thank you Hank. Thank you Hank man of honor. What's crazy is that you're tied with wizards right now? Yeah, I mean it doesn't it all doesn't fucking what point will it matter Christmas?
So how many wins you have to have by Christmas? How many times have we set on this show that I understand. But I want to hold you to this. So this wasn't the Sixers. No one would care. OK, I agree. We would not be talking about it. OK, if it was the Celtics, no, if it was the Celtics, we would absolutely correct about it. So why? Yeah, but it's your Celtics. That's why.
But Max, that's because you have these players and like the narrative that's been around them. The box fucking suck. We don't talk about that at all. I have. I've brought it up multiple times. Yeah, I mean, we're going to say that there's a mole in the balls of the wizard. Like we suck. Nobody would care about that. Yeah. All right. So you have 13 games. Chris, this is your 13th game. How many wins do you have to have to be like, this is a problem?
Uh, there's 13 games until Christmas. I think you got to get to 10 wins. I know 10. The 10 sounds weight like way too many. Let me see the schedule. So you got to go 10 wins and you got to do so you got to go eat and five. That's not that hard. Eight and five, eight and five. Yeah. Finally, eight wins.
I can find you some Orlando twice without power. Oh, there you go. Chicago Charlotte twice Detroit. Yeah, there's a eight. Yes, 10 wins, 10 wins. Got 10 wins by Christmas. Let's go. 10 wins by Christmas. We're not allowed to talk about it this until Christmas. All right, but you have to get the 10 wins. Yep. What if Yabu's the mole? It's never happened with B-ball Paul.
Alright, so Max, there's been a new wrinkle a wrinkle reveal to the 76ers drama to the saga. I want to saga with the saga. We're doing this later on at night 937. Somebody thinks that they found the leak of who reported this or of who gave the scoop away. Okay.
This is from raptor moment wait max max like memes right now. Let me finish All right. This from raptor moments. This is a stretch Raptor moment. Yeah, raptor moment is the source. Yeah, well here. Just hear me out here. Okay. Wait, that's this is What's the name of the Twitter? This is a raptor moment. This is a what? Huh?
Okay. Okay. Well, just, just wait. Yeah, I'll hear it. Okay. I'll hear the recall. All right. So, um, the quote from the article was Tyrese loves the big fella, but this is the elephant in the room, a person involved in the meeting told ESPN. If you go back to the Raptors over the last couple of years, Nick Nurse is very fond of using the phrase elephant in the room. And he's done at least three times.
A common phrase a common phrase. This is this is an insane edition. This is like dating. I'm stealing people's quotes in the quote. So let's fucking go. Yeah, be like what's his name for saying an elephant in the room. Yeah, I'm saying an elephant in the room. I mean, everyone says an elephant in the room. What's that's like every report ever. Raptor moments.
I believe Raptor has 2000. Wait, Raptor Moments isn't actually reporting anything. They're literally just being like, look, this phrase was used and this phrase was used. Yeah, Raptor Moments is connecting the dots. Right, but he's not, he, you can't believe Raptor Moments because Raptor Moments doesn't have any actual knowledge of this. No, no actual knowledge whatsoever. Yeah, he's just saying, oh, Nick Nurse has said elephant in the room and this person did. Mm-hmm.
so knick nurses the i liked i like the thought i do like to believe that there's a lot of coaches snitching on his players only meeting that is a funny thought yeah so i'm gonna believe it also wasn't a player's only meeting another fan pointed out that in a past nbc sports philadelphia story it's explained that knick nurse said on danny green's podcast in two thousand eighteen that he had a mini elephant on his desk in toronto
which metaphorically helped him prevent obvious concerns with the team from growing before being addressed. Nick Nurse loves the phrase, elephant in the room. Everyone uses the phrase. He had a fucking elephant. When there's an elephant in the room, you use the phrase, elephant in the room. He's right about that. Yeah, but if you walk into Nick Nurse's office, there's always an elephant in the room. He has an elephant on his desk to remind himself of elephants in rooms. Have you ever used a phrase, elephant in the room? Not to a reporter.
wait what was the original quote the original quote was the most standard quote of all time i'll read i'll read the quote uh... tyries loves the big fella but this is the elephant in the room he's talking about how tyries loves joell wait but who wrote that that was in the e s p and report so that wasn't even a quote what what no that is a quote the direct quote is for the record is so serious loves the big fella
But this is no no max. You don't know how to read quotation marks Tyrese is the big fellow, but this is the elephant in the room is the quote from an anonymous anonymous source with the sexers Max you're looking at an apostrophe. That's just the one mark the quotation mark is to who gives a fuck Everybody says elephant in the room when there's an elephant in the room. I Mean it seems like Nick nurse is obsessed with elephants
Who else would the source be than Max? Cause it seems like we got one good lead and nothing else. Yeah. That's a great lead. Hey. Okay. Here's the only, only pushback I'd have is wasn't part of the report that the Sixers players were like, Hey Nick, nurse, you need to coach us harder. Why would Nick nurse leak that his players are mad at him? Because he also in the report, they said that in turn the players have to pay more attention to detail.
Okay, so maybe it is Nick Nurse. So maybe Nick Nurse and the meeting was like, that's fair criticism. I'm going to hear you. But then I ask you to also you buy in as well and we'll be in the middle. Good coaching. Okay, I'm on team. Yeah, it was Nick. Stupid. There's a stupid one. I mean, Max, I think everybody agrees. You swayed me. Could you imagine if memes got this? Got this news? We should stop listening to reports. We just went from the athletic to Raptors moment.
after his moments with an S we should stop listening to reports it's fucking us up oh okay back to whatever we were talking about
uh... okay my cool throne is uh... kentucky basketball because i don't know if you guys saw but john caliper parry uh... is now begging fans to show up to basketball games at arkansas and he was like if you don't want to come to the game give us the tickets back will find someone who can come to the game and uh... they have also not looked great in the start of their season and then on the other side
Kentucky, there's a clip going around that's awesome. It's Mark Pope coaching in the huddle, essentially telling his players exactly what Cooper flag is going to do on that last possession against Duke and being like, this is how we're going to defend it. He's going to spin. You're going to, we're going to send the extra man two hands, take the ball away. And then it's like a cut up where he's saying it and it happens exactly like that. Something that Kentucky basketball is missing that in game coaching. So Kentucky basketball, good for you guys.
Yeah, it's an awesome clip. It makes you think that Mark Pope is going to be a great coach. Yeah, but we are very easily sold on clips like that. But I also saw like Cal in the red looks weird and then him being like, please come to the games. Yeah, not a great look. They are three in one. They lost to Baylor, who's a pretty good team, but they also have kind of like, they had a couple of games where they were struggling a little bit with lesser competition.
Yeah, it's not. I would say so far, Kentucky won this trade. Yes. For sure. And also, Kentucky, this also is probably because they were playing against Duke, but Kentucky seemed like a fun team. Yes. Like an easy fun team to root for. I'm sure that once they start becoming more Kentucky, then they will be easier to hate. But going up against Duke and beating Duke in that way, it made me feel things for the University of Kentucky. I got a little soft spot for Kentucky. I got no problem with Kentucky.
And that's probably because of 2015. What? I can say you beat them. Yeah, right. Like it's just maybe I know, but it's also like that was I mean, they were undefeated that season. So and I love Matt Jones and those guys. So yeah, I want Kentucky basketball to be good.
I might be an honorary member of Big Blue Nation. I don't know. Mark Pope. I mean, very loosely honorary. Meaning like I'd put a future on them and be like, go Kentucky. And then then they lost and be like, oh well, I lose it anyway. I like Kentucky. You're right. The sport is better when Kentucky basketball is good. I just, I will say and repeat whatever propaganda Kentucky fans want me to do. If it means that I get one step closer to at one point becoming a colonel, being a Kentucky colonel, that would be sick. That would be sick.
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Okay, we now welcome on our co-worker, very special guest, recurring guest. It is Pat Bev, Patrick Beverly, back from Israel for a short stint. I thought World War III had broken out when you walked into the gambling cave on Sunday. Unannounced. I was like, why is Pat here? Why is he? Like I thought he was in the middle of the season. So you have a break. You have a break. And you are how far into the season in Israel? About two and a half months in.
And how's the team playing phenomenal number one team in Israel right now number one team number one team. Yeah, how are you playing phenomenal? Yeah, I've been fucking hoping. Yeah, fine. How is the game different over like is it when you go over there? Because you played obviously in different leagues around the world before but you go over there. Is it is it? I don't want to say easier. But is it like it's easier but like, um,
I get everyone's best shot. Yeah. You know. Cause they're like as an NBA player. Right. Every American, every coach, every import, every import from another country, everywhere I go, it's, you know, they beat us, you know, all we be NBA team or NBA players. So I'm getting everyone's best shot. Yeah. You know, but, you know, that's what I asked for. So it's perfect. Yeah. How are the fans over there? Phenomenal. I mean, like you got to think, I'm thinking like,
eight to nine thousand a game. Um, it's a lot of smoke with, with Israel and other countries. So like we can't go play in Turkey. We have to meet at a mutual site. So we're meeting Serbia teams that it's smoke with. We always meet in the mutual site on all our Israeli games are played in Israel, of course, but yeah, our European league games, the games that it's a, you know, a Greek, a Greek team or a Turkish team or, you know, any team like that, or it's kind of smoke. We all, we always meet at a mutual site.
So what about the game? How does the game translate to, uh, to the Israeli league? So first, so first, the, the minutes I showed, we played 10 minutes a quarter. Okay. That's, that's time and wise. Uh, you can't, it, it's no, uh, defense of three seconds. So you can just stand in the panel. Park out there. Yeah. All day. Right. So it's really beat your man to activate the big guy to, to make the next play. Yeah. Right. So you don't see a ton of guys going, I don't know,
20s and 25 points a game over there. Yeah. So there's a guy just standing under the hoop basically just swatting all the shots. All that. That's crazy. Yeah. Literally living in the paint, crowd of paint making you, you know, make the right play consistently every single time.
And do you haven't gotten a technical yet? Is that because of the language barrier? As I'm sure you've said things that should get you a technical barrier. Yeah, I just mean, I don't know. It's wild. When I play, when I had a ball a lot, I'm so focused on like the game and focused on like, okay, trying to win the game, trying to do small things to win a game that I'm not over dramatic or over like I wouldn't say emotional, but just in character. Yeah. And NBA, I can do that. I can get away with that a lot. And they're quicker to give me a tech also.
Yeah. Is it more like you're also like in the NBA, you there's the Pat Bev role where you come in, you fuck shit up. Yeah. You're kind of a pest. You make things a problem for them. Get in their heads. No. And then I would imagine maybe I'm wrong, but in your current setup, you get in the game because you expected to be like a leader and I don't know how ball dominant you are, but you're like one of the best players. Yeah. Over there. Yeah. The superstar. So you can't be getting taxed. Can't be getting taxed. Can't have that type of energy.
You know, so it's all for me. It's okay. I'm saying double teams every night. I'm saying triple teams every night. I'm saying, you know, the best defenders on me every night. I'm saying I'm driven ice. So I see guys running to me. I got to make extra place. So it's just a different roll up. Yeah. People that are saying like Pat Bev got soft because he's not getting technicals. What would you say to those people?
I mean, my numbers are getting better offensively, so I guess it's working. More focus. Yeah, more locked in. Yeah. And I can get away with an NBA, because NBA, the refs, they know me. They know me. I'm an elbow, a motherfucker. I'm going to say, yeah, his bum ass. He can't fucking shoot. Fuck you. I'm going to say that type of shit in the game, which is, they'll give me a tag where they not go really kick me out. You can work your way with the refs and NBA. Yeah. All right. So I got a tough question for you. I'll talk. I'll talk. I'll talk. OK. Two.
First tough question is the way last year ended. Not the best because obviously you guys got bounced through a pass to someone. Like I look ready for a pass. He's wearing a uniform. Yeah. You're just trying to get some numbers up on the pod afterwards. No. You're just asking people to subscribe. No. Do you think any of that?
Like, how did it work in the off season when you were trying to figure out where you're going to play? Was that part of it at all? Or was it you wanted to go play in Israel? I don't think it helped. It didn't help, right? Yeah. I'm going to say that. I don't think it helped. But we still had two, three offers for the minimum. Yeah. You know, so it wasn't like a black ball situation. No, I don't think so. Yeah. I had offers. I'd see I got offers now to come back, you know, so looking at those offers. I am.
I mean, the goal I would assume is to eventually get back in the NBA, correct? I mean, not back in the NBA. It's, it's, it's, it's, uh, it's, uh, when you're out of it, right? And you see teams that you used to be on kind of struggling a little bit. All of your teams. Yeah. And you see that, uh,
You know, you're set up, you know, the stage that you're on in like the big stage. Yeah. Like being away from it, there's no other fucking stage like that. Yeah. Like no other stage than I don't give a fuck. And I'm not even talking about a playoff game or a cup game or like a Eastern Conference game or a championship game. I'm absolutely talking about fucking game 16 of the season. You're in the fucking biggest show in the world. Right. There's no other place like that. Right. So like organically as a kid NBA dream, I feel the need of like, damn, I want that. I want to go back there.
Yeah. And the one thing I love about you is you have the utmost confidence at all times. That's why you're, that's why you've made it so far in the NBA. That's why you've played for so long was how last season ended. Was it humbling at all where it's like, okay, Pat, like, just take a step back. Maybe got a, you know, like, was there any of that?
No. Okay. In my mind, you got to think of my mind. I'm like, shit, I just literally want to play off game by myself. I ain't gonna say about myself, but you know, the- You got to have everyone injured on the box? Yeah. Yeah. And then I had to step up and then we went an elimination game that, you know, a lot of people counted themselves for.
So, in my mind, and you know, with the, you know, different games in Boston, and you know, the freedom I have with Nick Nurse, and the freedom I have with the Bucks, like, for me, that was probably one of my best NBA offensive years ever, you know? So, I took it as, okay, cool, I still got a lot of juice in the tank. I take care of my body like a motherfucker, you know what I'm saying? Like, I spend a ton of my body each year to be healthy and, you know, prepare for entire season.
To me, it's like, okay, now I made a ton of money. I made almost $100 million in MBA. I get to go somewhere else where they're paying me more than a minimum, which, no matter if I had a career year or not, if Russell Westbrook takes minimum, Kalari takes minimum, guess what? Pabell, you get minimum. That's just how it is. Regardless of my play or a ball getting thrown or whatever the situation would be.
And I don't think that's fair. That's the that was my issue. Right. I work my ass off. I had a better years and all of them on folks. Why the fuck I'm getting them in them. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Just a podcaster to podcaster after the game when they ask you to elaborate on what happened. Yeah. Instead of just right away saying subscribe to the Pat Bev pod. I know you're a great marketer, but instead of saying that right away, why don't you do like a tease?
you start answering the question and you say, to hear my full thoughts, subscribe to the PEPF bar. Or you could do a podcast live in person to that reporter, answer the question, put it in the middle of your answer, throw in an ad read. So you start talking about what happened and then he says, bring them all. By the way, subscribe to BetterHelp, BetterHelp.com. But mine was originally, that was mine throughout since I've had the pod.
Yeah, you've been doing that. That wasn't just a one-off. Yeah, that one. Yeah. I agree with that. Have you thought about maybe instead of saying, are you subscribed to the Pat Bev Pod? You can't ask me a question unless you subscribe to the Pat Bev Pod. If you ask them, are you subscribed to a part of my take? Because the answer would probably be yes. So then they can ask you the question. No, I'm probably not though. I depend on who I'm talking to. That was an NBA crew. I mean, that was the ESPN crew I'm talking to. They don't like, no, they're closeted fans. They go home and shame. They won't admit it.
For sure. I mean obviously I think you said it afterwards like you should have handled it better but it wasn't it did get spun out as like I can't believe he said this like no he's been saying all year yeah but it's like that because we're in media right so anything that you know it's frowned upon I don't know something done they go try to make the next thing seem to like the worst thing yeah you know what I'm saying I've never I've never punched anyone right I never
hit any of my teammates. I never said, fuck you coach, I'm walking out of practice. I've never got kicked out of practice ever since I've been in the NBA. You know what I'm saying? So my behavior is one thing, but it's a lot of shit that I haven't done also, which shows why I've been in the league so long also.
Yeah, no, there's a reason why you keep getting, you keep getting signed to teams in the UVA because you're a valuable piece and a good teammate for the next part. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But sometimes they get caught up in like the theatrics, but we said at the time, we were like, Pat has been telling every reporter this. No, since I have the podcast. Since you had the podcast, it's a standard answer for you. I've got an easy question for you. Talk to them. And we talked about it a little bit on Sunday when you came in. You're playing overseas in Israel. Solve the mid-east crisis.
Wow. Solve the Middle East crisis. Yeah. Just create peace in the Middle East. Yeah. For one, I don't think.
that I can solve it. Okay. Good answer. That's the right answer. That was a really good answer. Right. So how are you keeping up with the NBA while you're over there? What's the time difference like? So, oh shit. So what's my three, three p.m. It's seven a.m. here. So all of the first game six p.m. is probably like one o'clock in the morning my time.
All right, so not keeping it up with a ton, but a ton of highlights, but not that I'm with draft games, shout out to draft games. It's kind of exciting to kind of be up a couple hours now, trying to see scores, trying to see who the fuck gold score wasn't in the first quarter type shit, so yeah, shout out to draft games. All right, so I got a question about this NBA, the Cavs. I mean, this is running on Wednesday, so they play the Celtics in a few hours and they might lose that game, but they started undefeated.
What is it about the Cavs? Kenny, I mean, Kenny Atkinson is a really good coach. He was my coach and Clippers. So yeah, so tell me about Kenny Atkinson. What is it? What does he do that makes it? Cause it feels like the Cavs last year, they were a good team playoff team, but this is they're playing out of their mind right now. And so when he had, um, first off, Kenny, as a, as a players coach, right? First off, when you speak about Kenny, uh, Kenny, you got to understand this. This is a coach that
Crosses every tea dots every eye right when I was there He wasn't the coach running to go work with co-op Paul George. He was working with me Nick Batum and Zubok You know so you can understand this kind of collar of work dealing with the type of players you dealt with and he was the head of The individual performance side, you know
Yeah. So when you see a coach like that, his ability, like, you know, I think he ran our offense, you know, but the way he teach it, the way he taught it, the way he ran it, or the, the, the, the, the, I don't think I've ever heard him say, I don't know. Probably heard him say some curse word, but never at someone, you know, phenomenal guy.
Yeah. Phenomenal man. Phenomenal man. And I think like if you, if you have your coaching is all about your, it's never about X and O's. It's somebody down there fucking coaching staff got X and O's. It's all about how hard can your players play for you? Motivation. Yeah. Right. So right. You can be a coach that has zero X and O's, but you have your team run through a one fucking wall from you. That's half the battle right there.
And that's all coaching is. That's all coaching is. And the moment you take a player aside, and the moment you do something to not go, you know, because as a coach, you have to think you're a coach, your father figure also. That's literally what coaches start from. But the moment you cross that line because of money, the moment you cross that line because relationships start letting guys do what they want, that's when you become a bad coach and lose the shit. All the good coaches.
They coach the same. Obviously you have your star players, but we're going to coach you the fucking same. No, you can't be late or you can't be fucking late. That's how we're going to run things. Right. You know, so if you have more of those, I think, you know, the game will change with basketball and with coaching. And that's all you're saying right there. How much of the cab success is because of the dancing frog?
Put me on. I'm not aware. So there was a in Cleveland. There was a guy in a frog costume that he was dancing in the streets after the Cavs won a couple games. And now they've invited him in and he dances in the arena after they win. How important is that if you're a player? Because I feel like that's pretty damn important. OK.
I mean, as a player, I probably wouldn't even know that. I would say Kenny Atkinson deserves, I don't know, 20% of the credit, the players, another 20, the dancing frog, 60%. Okay, so like from a fan, if you come there dancing frogs knock there, he's sick. You're like,
We lose. We lose the game. That's a classic plan. I like that, though. Give you a little management that way. It's like a game within the game type of bot. Yeah, well, it's also one of those situations where every team that has that momentum and they're maybe on the cusp of a special season,
It always feels like there's some little funny story that they start rallying around, whether it's a slogan, a dancing frog, and we've seen it a million times. I would give 25% credit to George and Yang. Yeah. Most wins in the NBA since 2020. Yeah. And he's, he can, he can hoop though. Yeah, he can. He plays the right way. Yeah. He plays the right way all the time. Yeah, he can hoop though. That's not a surprise. I'm reading it right now. Jared Allen said I've been wanting to dance with that frog since I've seen him.
So he was, and then Froggy the Frog finally showed up. Wait, is him Froggy the Frog? Yeah, Froggy is here. That's, okay. Froggy is here. Oh, it's a she, I'm sorry. Froggy is a she. Froggy is here and there are no plans for her to leave anytime soon. Love that. City has embraced the dancing frog, that's the cow's wins. I need to, so yeah, this is. Miss Froggy. Miss Froggy. Yeah. And the whole city is just embracing the frog. Love that. I think that's more important than people realize. It's just,
It's a dancing frog. Yeah, do vibes have anything to do with a team success? Like if a city is having fun? Sometimes, yeah, sometimes though. Like you go like a place like Miami. The vibes are always going to be fun, right? But you don't want it to be too fun to drain you, right? I think some of our like sick, sick game days and sick like, you know, the night before the games is like Phoenix.
Well, you can have some fun. You can have a nice dinner. You can go out to a nice bar, but you're not going to be out to four o'clock in the morning, five o'clock in the morning. That's a 130 type of night. But with the same amount of fun, the same adrenaline pumping through your veins, the same vibes going through around. But it gets when you're to a place like New York, and it's a lot of distractions and hour here, hour here, next thing. It's time to go to sleep when you're trying to battle with the time of getting rest and not doing things, but keeping routine. I think that's when it becomes a problem then.
So I got a dumb question. How often if you're a player, are you looking at the standings? Are you actually like, okay, where are we at the standings every day? Or is it just like every five games, every five games? You look at it. So every five games are kind of tell you to exactly where you were at, where you headed at.
So if you're the Sixers right now and you look at the standings and you're two and 11. Man, I'm believable. Two and 11. Is that right, Max? Can we get a stat check on that? I'll pull it up because I texted to the group last night. They're just to make Max aware of games out of first place and they've only played 13 games. My question to you all, who do you think they need more? Was it Pappell? Yeah, two. And B. Paul, Georgia, Maxie. Maxie's been out. All three of them. I think they need the game that they've been. They've won Maxie's played.
Okay, is the record correct match to an 11 that would be to an 11 correct to an 11 That's bad. Yeah. How at what point in the season are you like because you've been on some teams that have not been great like Is there a moment in the season where like all right? This is kind of what we are No, you keep fighting. Yeah, you always keep fighting. Yeah, right now. I'm not been I haven't been I haven't been on like a two and 11 team. I'm sure the Lakers
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was bad. That was brutal. Would you guys end up that year? I don't know. I end up with the boys. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Have a run we made. Yes. I think we made a run all the way to losing the playing game in 18, eight, since I was there, 15 and nine since I was there. Yeah. Do you think Caroline Zorf special lose the playing game? You think the Sixers, they could use a guy like Patrick Beverly?
Any team, right? Any team, you know, and I'm just, you know, I'm not, you know, gas myself, but, you know, my work has been shown in NBA. Any team, right? Spark. Any team, any team. It's just, when you get past you adapt, my personality to the team more than anything. Yeah. Right. So the personality might be, I don't know, game, I don't know, 39, and you're playing in fucking Portland, and it's cold, and it's fucking gray outside, right?
My competitive spirit go for like game 39, game two, game three of the playoffs. Yeah, I'm catching five and it rubs off on you. My ability to be focused and shoot around and treat each game like a championship game, like that shit rubs off on you. And next thing you know, yeah, you playing 82 games, but you treating the motherfuckers all like playoff games too. So the energy is different. You know, the competitive spirit is there more, you know, when I'm on a team.
Yeah. And that's the spark because it's a long season. And then you see that all the time where teams will just kind of take off nights. They don't take off a night with that. Yeah, I can't. Yeah. And at the same time, I'm the player also. It's still trying to prove myself. Yeah. So I'm like, OK, fuck it. This guy's not playing OK. This is my time to come up and show everyone. Fuck it. Yeah, I can score it. Oh, this guy's not playing OK. Cool. Let me lock his ass up. So it's always a opportunity for me. I always took it as an opportunity to showcase my talents also.
Yeah. Is there one team that you watch, uh, not being in the NBA right now and you still feel like you root for them more? Like that was a special team. The Bucks. Yeah, man. I saw you. You told the honest, make your free throws. Yeah, that's my thought. Yeah, that's my thought. I just, um, they are short, short time, but like,
When you go to the playoffs with a team, right, and you go through, not only the playoffs, but like ups and downs with a team, right? And then you go through the playoffs, you go through the ups and downs, then you go through injuries with a team, right? I mean, that's everything you can ask for in sports, all summed up in one.
and to have a chance that happened all from my time there until the playoffs was, it made us, okay, fucking, no Giannis, we gotta get closer, we gotta get better, I'll fuck it, no Middleton, I'll fuck it, we gotta get better, we gotta get closer, fucking, no dang, I'll fuck it, we gotta get better, we gotta get closer, just made you a tight net-ass family. And then you have those opportunities, the playoffs, guys not healthy, everyone rooting against you, you on the road, it forces a bond that you don't get from a lot of teams.
Do you do you feel if you're a pep of and you're playing on a team with LeBron or Giannis do you feel extra pressure being like I there's a standard that they're playing it that I have to reach. Yeah, so it was one time I was with the Lakers and
And then we're playing in Boston. And I think I just got a tip dunk. I think I just hit a big shot. And I'm at the Frito line. I missed the Frito. And then Braun gave me a look like, come on, man. Make your motherfucking Frito. And I'm like, oh shit.
You're right, right? But now I take that, like I think I've only missed three free throws this entire year. And I remember that. That was my motivation to, you know what, make you my fucking free throws. That's like the definition of greatness is everyone is a great player lifts everyone else's game. Right. So now that's me on my team. Yeah. I don't give a fuck, man. I don't give a fuck how many free throws you missed one, two, three, fourth quarter, make your fucking free throws. And do you have that feeling too? Like say you're playing with the honest word. It's not, it's not like Janice's got us, but
I would imagine players play with more confidence knowing Giannis is on your team and not their team. Yeah, and then also on other players play with less confidence when you go, you got to go against Giannis. Yeah, right. You know, and I can make more mistakes. Right. Right. So my mistakes aren't magnified if Giannis is not out there versus when he is out there. Yeah. So I can go for steel. I can take a bullshadash charge that ref might call charge because of my name, not because of how my footing was.
I might take fucked up shot. I might go offense rebound when I suppose, you know, Giannis got us. Yeah, Ron got us. But that comes with greatness also. Yeah, you know, and I'm learning that on nothing. And also now that I'm playing what I'm playing at, like, it's a lot of stuff that my teammates allow to do that I just can't do. Yeah, you know, they're looking to you. Yeah. Have you seen Cooper flag play basketball? Football player basketball.
Never played basketball. No, I haven't seen that. Okay, cuz handsome white guy white boys might be back. Yeah, I'm like the number one pick American white boys might be back. He's so what a change that you got in Israel Yeah
Just keep your eye on that guy. He can hoop. He might be the first white guy drafted number one overall, American white guy drafted one number one overall since like the 70s. Yeah, but my thing about that, I like, I like him. I like him at Duke. I like that.
I've never seen him play up close in person by saying highlights. Okay. Okay. He has size. Yeah, um fact and he has it seems like he has some type of toughness He's got toughness and I think and I think regardless of what your skill is that if you have size and you have toughness, that's go care You know, he's so good. He's an elite white guy that plays a Duke that is not hateable. Yeah, yeah Right now he's an easy guy to root for because he's just so fucking good. Yeah
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Who had the most toughness that you ever played with? The most toughness.
where you're like, damn, even, because you're considered obviously a tough player. But you play with someone or play against someone, you're like, damn, even I feel come like a wimp compared to this person. Russ, yeah? I'm a fucker tough. He don't die. Yeah. He just keep coming at you. Don't just, I don't give a fuck, fuck it. We down, we're up. I don't give a fuck what's going on. I'm just keep coming at you. Keep coming at you. Like Russ, easy. Yeah. Unbelievable toughness.
I see that. Did you ever have a teammate that was not tough? That was like, you know, like respect. You two kind of win at it. See who could be the toughest guy on your own team who was going to be the tough guy. No, because it's always you. No, yeah. And like I get on the team with me and Bobby and then but I'm older. So it's like Bobby understand that I went to Arkansas before him up. You know, I paid the way, you know, before him. So it's always a respect thing. And I'm coming. You got to think when I'm on the team, I'm not coming like.
I'm not coming like that. I'm coming more like, and you know, if we swing that around a couple more times, you get that same shot wide open type of shit. You know, so like it's just, it's just different. Yeah. You were talking about Giannis earlier. You do a pretty funny impression of Giannis, like the first time that he told you, like I want to play with you one day. Yeah. Can you just, can you tell that story? No. So I, um,
We're home, we're playing Milwaukee, and I'm with Minnesota, and how the Western Conference and the Eastern Conference work that you don't really get to see. Eastern Conference, home a lot is just one home, one away. So I think we've seen them in the first game of the season. And obviously, we've seen them in Milwaukee, so you want to play them while you're at home.
Um, you, you, you, you practice pregame thinking that John is you, you, you take your nap. Okay. Cool. You're thinking that John is, uh, you get to the game. I don't see any honors. I'm fucking frustrated now. I'm act. I'm actually angry now. Yeah.
I don't think, I think I got kicked out of that game. I think I've only played that game, that same game that we're talking about. I think I only played two minutes. I think I shoved the guy and they kicked me out. Literally. So we working out pregame, I don't know, 60 on the, I don't know, 70 on the clock, you know, before the game starts. And I see, Giannis is a late scratch. I go, man, what the fuck, man? I wanted to play him.
I go out, I see the NASA, shout out to the NASA's, his older brother. And his older brother's always been a fan of me, obviously, because I played in Greek whenever, you know, around there at the same time. So he's always been a fan of, you know, my upbringing, how I started from Greece. So I see him and I'm like, yo, what the fuck your brother? All the fucking duck and smoke.
He laughed at me like, nah, nah, man, he in the back, he in the back. I know, fuck that, man. Tell us that has to play. So I started my workout. I look up, I see Greek coming out the tunnel. I'm okay. For sure. He about to come over here. He go, excuse me, guys, excuse me, guys. Like you got to understand this is like, uh, this is Greek freak. Yeah. This isn't like, uh,
I don't know, Grayson Allen or somebody. This is Greek Freak walking through another professional's individual shooting time with other NBA coaches. Stop and... Excuse me, guys. Like, stopping everything. Like, Pat, I never dug smoke. I never dug smoke.
Never never I deck smoke you know I'm saying so yeah shot at the Greek man That was the first time I'm like oh yeah, this motherfucker the real deal. Yeah motherfucker the real deal He's he also is like he's I feel like he's because of the injuries and how Everything's gone down the couple last couple years people have kind of forgotten him. Yeah, like how great he is
Yeah, I don't think forgotten I think that you know when you don't win it you get hurt You don't win it. I don't know you win it. Yeah, you win it while you hurt You know you fuck this shit up. You know early that that that playoffs come back give them up fucker 60 I think they're looking for that person all the time now since they got a since that happened, you know And I don't think that's fair to the player
That was a legendary run he went on. That finals just absolutely dominant. And then afterwards he goes to Chick-fil-A and orders 50 chicken nuggets and slams it. Yeah. This is a regular dude. What was your favorite memory being teammates as Robin Lopez? Robin Lopez, I wasn't teammates with Robin Lopez. Yeah, you were.
He tweeted last year, February 8th, 2024. This is when the trade deadline. I enjoy being teammates with Patrick Beverly for all of an hour and a 45 minutes. I'll never forget those times. He's great too. Him and Brooke are great. You were teammates. We were an hour and forty five. I don't think we even shook hands. Oh, there's no way. No way. No way. Uh-uh. He's great though. Yeah. Family is great. Family is great, man. Mom is great. Working off the other night.
What did he hit? He went five or five from three. And I think he had the Magic Johnson up and underlay up to it. Yeah. Yeah. They're still telling. Hey, I have a teammate question though, for real. Yeah. Be ball Paul. Paul Reed. Yeah. Is he as cool as I've made it out in my head? Okay. Will you say cool?
I mean, he just, his nickname's Be Ball Paul. All right. Okay. I got a question. When you, when you see, when you, when you look at a person like Paul Reed, what do you instantly see? Well, it's not looking at him. It's the fact that he's Be Ball Paul and they chant Be Ball Paul and that's like the funniest nickname possible. Frank the Tank Five. Yeah, right. Be Ball Paul. Like that's a funny, kind of like the frog in Cleveland. That's the fan experience. I mean, you tell Max Be Ball Paul, I mean, he's, he hustles.
I love B-ball Paul. He's not on the Sixers anymore, but he's a guy who came from the G-League. Out the mud? Out the mud. The out the mud sweatshirt are funny and cool that he would make his own merch and sell it himself. Yeah, he would. That was the other thing. Yeah, you'd have to just Venmo him. I Venmo him for a shirt. He'd have a store. Yeah, he sent me out the mud.
Yeah, no, he's like a good success story, you know fought for what he got and he was a good player and help his dog. Yeah, yeah People Paul. I mean don't you can't just don't dog on everybody. I think people Paul's dog a dog. Yeah, what kind that's the difference? I got have a Yorkie
Yeah, I know you have a little, you have almost a cat. He might be like a golden retriever. Yeah. Right. Yeah, right. You like when he's around. Love when he's around. He's a golden retriever and then also like he's very lovable. Also, maybe he has like saved the kid out of a well or something.
Type shit. Yeah. Yeah. He's had one like great moment where I like to have a dog that got the key to the city for having a great week. Yeah. And he fell in a whale and had to get helped out. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. Right. We're on the same page. You were talking about Maxie earlier. Hank just sent this over to us here. Oh no. That the Sixers held a team meeting last night and Tyree's Maxie called out Joel and Bead for being late quote to all team activities and everything.
And everything. All team activities and everything. So that implies everything is even not team activities. He's just laid on everything. He's just laid to everything. Damn. And he cites how that impacts the locker room, other players and coaches. Does being late, does that make an effect on the general climate of an NBA team? I think on any team. I think in any workspace also, right?
I've always liked to be, I don't know, seven, eight minutes early before anything. Well, let's be honest here. We came and record at 11. What? Nope. We record. We said 10 30. Well, we record at 11. What time did you walk in? 12 minutes before record. We got what you got into 1041.
the 19 minutes before. Okay, okay, okay. So I'm actually on time. Okay, okay. But as far as basketball though, I'm the guy that's like, you know, I like to be on a bus first. I like to be in a weight room first. I like to be ready like that. You're not on time. It can rub off some people.
But if you're not on time and you're giving my fucking 70, it's been times with Joel and me one on time to my fucking to practice. Come on, Joe, man. What's up, G? Come on, man. Come on, Joe. Come on, Joe. Be better, Joe. Be great.
And then it's a response to be like, what the fuck, man? You're giving me all the fucking, man, I'm fucking an hour and a half away. I didn't mean I had to get up two hours, you know, before it, because everyone doesn't live the same spot. You know what I'm saying? So, like, what are we going to do? Give me my fucking wall. That same night he had 50, and we won. Yeah. You know, I think we were 21 and 9 in the first 30 games, like the best record since 2004. I don't know if someone else was with Philly.
So it's just surprising to see especially cuz all the hard work that Nick nursing this coaches that put in just it's hard to see How many an hour and a half is a long way to travel like Brandon Walker before 9 o'clock film Yeah, I mean you got to get up 7 and I'm saying I ain't saying that you know obviously like we have different jobs there my focus is getting up at 6 o'clock in the morning so everyone's different but you know I
If you just start, I don't have a problem with it. And I'm the role guy and I'm the temperature of the locker room. You feel me? I know you're not doing it to be ultimate disrespectful. I know you don't show up the games late. I know you don't show up to practice this late. But if you've got nine o'clock in the morning shooting around and you got to get up two hours before, I don't think that's fair also. So it's just different strokes, different folks.
And Tyrese is someone that was B-ball Paul. It wouldn't be, no, that's not even a conversation. That's not a conversation. You can't even be fucking late. You can't be late. But it comes with the status also. Is there such a thing as too many player only meetings?
No, I think that more. No, this wasn't a player-only meeting. Oh, fact check. It says it was coaches. Coaches were also involved in the meeting. Oh, coaches. So the coaches are calling him out in front of his coaches. I mean, I'm just, you were giving false information. I asked a question about players-only meetings. I actually wasn't- But it was in context. No, but I wasn't giving false information because I said, is there such thing as too many players-only meetings?
That's a fair question. Players also asked the coaches to be coached harder. Oh, okay. So it also says that he was late to all team activities and everything also implying that Joel Embiid was late to players only meetings. That's part of everything. Yeah, he would have been. Yeah, but I don't think it was a player who was only meeting that early before it in anyway. So what's the earliest players only meeting? Sounds like this one. Yeah, but it wasn't Max is saying it wasn't what
When a player is only meeting, is there too many though? Like, can you have too many? Because we see it every now and then where it's like, they've had their third player's only meeting in the last month. That feels like too many. Yeah, but see, you gotta understand what goes on. Like a player only mean this. I'm gonna fuck get in there. Hey, so what the fuck going on? What we gonna do?
It's not really formal. Did you kick out the coaches? Do you see coaches get out of here? Yes. I like that part. Like, like, yes, y'all get the fuck out. Like, let's talk straight up. Or you bring a coach in who's like the players, coach, who's cool. That can kind of give you information of what the coaches thought it is, but also can take information like this is the player of style also. Yeah, they kind of mess it together because, because you don't want to be in there having to meet and the whole time you get out of meeting you like, oh, man, that's, you know, yeah, coaches, they don't have a whole different page than we all. Like, okay, cool. That's all good organized.
We get a new play and they don't know it. We got this going on, man. You feel me? I feel like I'm shooting the ball a lot. I feel like I can get better shots. What can I do to make a team better? What can I do to help you? What can I do to help you? And then I go, like, OK, cool, fuck all that. Let's just talk about roles. You tell me your role. I tell you my role, and we just go all the way down. And then you'll hear some people' roles. And then you'll be like, OK, y'all agree with that?
And some guys would be like, no, I don't think that's your role, but that helps you though, right? That helps you. Okay, cool. In my mind, I thought my role was screen, screen, screen, roll, roll, roll, hold time. This guy wants to start player wants my role to, no, pop and shoot all the time. Right. I might have thought my role was to shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot. No, my role is not to shoot. My role is to offense a rebound, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, block shots and, uh, take charges.