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    New “Engels” on Marx

    enSeptember 26, 2024
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    • Marx's Economic AnalysisJamie Edwards and Brian Lighter examine Marx's economic theories, acknowledging flaws in his labor theory of value. They argue that if we reject this theory, Marx's predictions about capitalism’s downfall and the rise of socialism are undermined.

      In their work, Jamie Edwards and Brian Lighter explore the ideas of Karl Marx, arguing that while some of his theories are flawed, his analysis of capitalism stands out. They discuss how the value of goods comes from the labor needed to produce them, leading to questions about how capitalists profit. Marx believed that when workers are paid for their labor power but produce more value than what they were paid for, that extra value is called surplus value, generating profit for capitalists. However, Edwards and Lighter note that this concept is problematic and must be rejected, as it cannot resolve key issues within Marx’s theories. If we abandon the labor theory of value, then Marx's predictions about capitalism being replaced by socialism lose their strength, raising doubts about the foundation of his economic analysis.

    • Capitalism's DilemmaMarx's theory implies capitalism will fail as workers lose buying power due to reduced wages. Although he argues this through labor value, Edwards and Leiter show that the same outcome can be reached by examining the economic dynamics between workers and capitalists without relying solely on that theory.

      Marx's idea of historical materialism suggests that the way a society produces goods influences its social structure. As technology advances, workers may lose their jobs or face reduced pay, resulting in less ability to buy products. Capitalists may try to cut wages to maximize profits, but this can backfire as workers lose purchasing power, making it hard for businesses to sell their goods. Although Marx's labor theory of value argues that capitalism will eventually collapse due to this profit squeeze, Edwards and Leiter suggest that the same conclusion can be reached without it. They emphasize that the balance of power between employers and workers is crucial; if workers can't negotiate fair wages, it could lead to significant societal shifts.

    • Wages and SocialismWages must match worker productivity to prevent losing talent. Automation's job creation is debated, and without market prices, economies may struggle. Some argue that socialism is morally necessary, despite its unclear implementation from Marx's perspective.

      Wages should reflect a worker's value; otherwise, other firms will hire them away. Automation has previously created jobs, but now experts question if it will do so again. Prices that adapt to supply and demand mean the economy doesn't need constant spending. Socialism, according to Marx, will replace capitalism, but he didn't explain how it would work. Critics like Mises argue that without market prices, economies fail. Some modern socialists focus on the moral necessity of socialism rather than see it as an inevitable outcome. They highlight moral arguments to support their views, suggesting that even if early economic theories were mistaken, the moral case for socialism still stands strongly.

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