MacBros RAW Show 19 – Pistol Modifications vs Training

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Welcome everybody to episode 19 of the Mac Bros. Raw Show. I'm Josh, one of your co-hosts with my best friend on the entire planet. Darius, these gains. What's up, everybody?

We've got a good group of people on with us. We appreciate you all joining us live. If you want to jump in on the conversation, feel free. This week's episode is going to be a bunch of Q&A. We've got a bunch of questions from the Mac Bros channel, my personal channel, and Dee's personal channel. So if you have questions, drop them in the chat. If we can't get to it, that's okay. If you want to jump in on the live with us and share your opinions, feel free, raise your hand. I'll bring you in.

And you can join us in the conversation. But first of all, Dee, how has your week been since we last spoke? It's been good, man. It's been good. Just trying to stay afloat. Got the kids going on with school. So it's just life. Nothing to complain about. We get up every day, right? We put our pants on.

And we'll go to work and we're alive and breathing. I'll take that. I was going to say, lately, I've had to sit down before I go to bed and I'm like, what just happened today? Yeah, we do. We've got school, dentist, sports. Yeah. And we've got to deal with the stress of school, because school can be tough sometimes. And hearing people saying slang that is not nice and just trying to

you know, help with the behavior and then there's politics and just all kinds of stuff. So, you know, I might like to ask him about the president and I'm like, I don't want to get into that with you kids that you say something at school and upset somebody. So, hey, hold on for a second. Before I forget, I'm gonna put my hat on here. I like the fade, bro. Looks good. What is this? What is this? I can't tell. What is this?

So this is my man Dave, you know, Big Dave from the VI. Yeah, he gave me his patch and he said he knew you wanted to jump in. I'm like, I'm like Clint jump in here. Clint wants to join in on the chat with us. So let me jump in. But he said that you've been wanting this patch. So he said he'd give it to me. Another thing really quick while Clint's jumping in one second, I actually just

Where, Clint, you had a strip club? I wish. No, I'm at a red light. I have your property, Mr. Gaines. I have your property. Yes. That's dope. That's dope. This is 3D printed. This is 3D printed. This is actually pretty cool. So those quadrills chain.

Is it pink or is it red? Look at the chain. Look at the chain. It's pink for sure. It's definitely a song. Does your king look at my trigger? Oh, part of my trigger compared to it. It's definitely pink. That's crazy. Yeah. I have your property. Thank you. I'm guessing you had to go see somebody at some point of time.

I had to go see my resident pastor that can keep me on the straight and narrow faster gamage. He hooked it up. So he gave me one of the Hemi Hendrix patches, but I have refused to put on anything because I have not completed the drill. Keep it in the wrapper. I'm not pursuing you. And thanks for noticing the fate of myself. What's the drill that you have to do to get his patch?

uh gammit has always paid it's called a he has his own printable um call instructions and uh well that's pretty tough i don't doubt it he does he does a lot of hard things and i'm like mmm

This is gonna make me look like crap on YouTube. It's a precision drill, but it requires you to, it's close proximity. So you have a lot of confidence, but then it requires you to backstep to another position. So it's not a forward motion, it's backward motion. I think you guys both know I love running and shooting. I'm with you with that. I'm like slow fire. What is this?

I remember when we were out in Iowa, and you were shooting, and Dixie kept telling you to slow down, and you were like, no! I get it. You're like, it's all or nothing. And then we went to precision shooting. We went to precision shooting where you were like, it's like, ha ha, now you have to be slow.

because he's proud of like four bucks. Yeah. So now everybody, if you really want to upset me, just make me do a precision shooting drill.

Gammages drill is really, I'd say it requires you to think a little bit before you even start the drill. And then have some spatial awareness because part of the drill is you start at three, do your shots, which is fine, but they're precision shots. And then you have the back pedal to five, which five isn't bad, but you have to kind of know how many steps you take. Because if you're looking behind you, you've already screwed yourself over. Yeah.

I've seen a few people do it really well. Um, I've gotten close a couple times. It's just, I got to get more attempts out there, but, uh, it's a cool patch and he has two tiers. If you just completed at the entry, basic level, you get a patch. If you complete at like a higher level, he will get you a shirt actually. So that's, that's pretty cool. Sweet. I'm always looking for, you guys sent me a shirt. So I can't, I can't think enough.

Not man, it's all good. It's all good. The three jumped in the clip. Clinton wants to have us on his podcast. He and his buddies do a podcast. I think every week, right? Yeah, every week, most of the time I'm there. So yeah, next week, I don't think we have anybody scheduled. So I want to be awesome to get you guys on it. We record Wednesday night seven. I usually push it out Thursday or Friday. Okay. Seven central. So to be eight year time.

my work. We'll check our calendars, Clint. If you need me to push it back, just let me know. Yeah, can be cool. And I appreciate that. Hey, before we let you drop, Clint, the first thing we know we get into is what you got into in the past week with guns and stuff. You shot anything, bought anything. Oh, yeah. Anything out to get work done.

I actually need to send a barrel out to get to get a port put in it on the front. I got a I got a vape defense has a Wallace slide and I bought it for my 17 and I need to go send the barrel out to get ported on the front for the chunk port and man I have been I'm not intensely like

Like, I need to get in it. I'm slowly, heavily getting into like full-size handguns, you know? And I'm just, I am like, I got the radiant ram jet. I was trying that out. Browno said that out, so I can't thank them enough for that. So, you know, they're, you know, they're doing a bunch of that stuff. I mean, I'll tell you what, ports are way better than a comp. Like, I'll take ports any day over a comp.

But I still like that ramjet. That ramjet is, I would, I still baffled it. It's $400, but I absolutely go ahead. Why you're talking, how much if you can share or if you're comfortable with sharing, how much to the port, how much is that going to run you?

That I don't know. I got to get the barrel off with the slide to have somebody port the barrel, because the slide already has the chunk port cut out in it. I just need someone to cut the barrel out to match. And your recommendation?

I was looking at Monsoon, but I don't know if he's gonna if he'd just take a slide and and and port the barrel to match. I don't know if he does that. Yeah, I would I would either try him or laser blade laser blade typically joins our lives as well. He might do something to match what you have. Okay, and he's in. I don't know. So maybe a little bit closer. All right, then I'll check out his website. Yeah. Yeah, tell me. He's good, dude. Okay.

Yeah. And then, uh, I don't know if you guys, have you guys run any of the ZEV frames for like the OZ nine or the OZ nine C? I shot it once a long time ago. It's nice. Dude. Okay. So now I'm like, I'm trying to, I'm trying to get an OZ nine full size frame. Cause I have the OZ nine compact, which is the compact with the 45 grip, like four, like the Glock 19 slash black 45. Yeah. Is this the all metal one?

Yes. So it has the polymer grip module that goes on there. But the frame is on metal. Yeah. And they're like 500 bucks. But I heard it. I'm itching. I heard it's a mess. But I have not come across anybody who has it except for Aaron. I have the 19. I have the compact one. It's a metal frame. The frame is metal too. Yeah. I'll send you some DMS here in a little bit. Oh, yeah.

I have yes, I have Sarge Mayhem has one of those set up. Okay. Got the new one. Yeah, they got the new one. It's like eight. It's got like eight ports in it. The old one has just four

I looked at that. I would have a sneaky suspicion that that's the aim surplus for the barrel.

Yeah, ran that as well. Good runs, does the job. A very affordable option for people that are looking to not have to ship out a gun. You could buy a barrel from AIM surplus. I don't know what their quality is and a QC on it. I don't think it's as precision as someone custom doing your own gun, but it's still adequate. And like you said before, ports, in my opinion, and from what a lot of the data says, it's superior to compensators.

Yeah. I like comps. They don't like Radian. They're good dudes, but even Radian. You like Radian more than me. It's like the only thing I like from them. That's funny. But yeah, I'm going to say, because I'm coming up on, I think it's 3,000 followers on it. I'm going to see about acquiring that Brown N N O slide and barrel combo. I'm probably going to do a giveaway with that.

Oh, there you go. The problem is I normally do giveaways on things that I've used before so I can vouch and I haven't really used that. I'm sure it'll run. I'm sure it'll run. I mean, why don't you just run it one time? I don't want to. And I'll clean it because I know you won't. I'll clean it.

It's funny, you say that. So the Brownells, the first iteration of their barrel that they sell on its own right now, I think it's only like 60 bucks just for the barrel. If you're running it with like, like, Safiri makes a slide. I think there's EP3 slide works with it and a couple other ones. But if you're running one of those slides and you get that barrel, that thing is flat. Like I've yet to shoot something flat. I guarantee you monsoon tactical probably has something that would beat it. But those are pretty flat.

Yeah. I'll have to haul it out to you. I'll have to haul it out to you Clint, because I got some things that just sit on the shelf lately, because I've got other stuff in the rotation. I got some Glock stuff I could send to you that's monsoon ported, that they're late boarded, they're 19 stuff. But yeah, I'll shoot it to you. And I'm sure you to pick him up a strip slide, man. So he put his internals into a slide and run the port. Yeah, if you just send me the barrel in the slide, I'll run the crap out of it. And then I'll clean it and send it back to you.

It's better than what he would do. So it's fun. I don't think I have any of them. But yeah, that's a good conversation. Yeah. Yeah. I like to. I think that'd be fun to just pass stuff around that people, if we all have glocks and sigs and stuff, I know you don't like to say, I heard it last week. So.

You're probably here to get this week too. Yeah, it's okay. Having a guy? Do you like 2011's? I never see you with... Nope. Nope. Never. 90 million years. I will. I will say the only one that I've been interested in is probably the one that everybody hates the most and it's the platypus. A platypus, yeah. And I'm having reservations for work, but...

But everybody on the internet is one way or the other. They either think it's the coolest thing on the planet or they hate it the most. And the only reason why I like is it takes clock mags.

I'm not bad. I think they got really popular because early on when they first started out you could get them in like a one month turnaround for custom build and now they're like several months to get one now. So people are running them. I know, um, twist has one and, um, Tony, uh, Tony style, I think has one as well. Those two guys we met, uh, at gun con. Um, they, they have a platypus. I just,

Again, I held ponies. That thing is nice. He did. The trigger is nice too. Knee slapper. Yeah, I shot a lot of 40. You just said knee slapper, you oldie. I shot a Fowler Industries 1911 double stack a couple of weeks ago. And every time I get behind in 1911, I feel so let down. Like, I'm like, I got to spend six grand on this thing and it doesn't.

I'll perform my Glock like the trigger is not that much better. It's not it doesn't do all this other stuff like and I'm like I have I have $1,800 into a Glock minus the optic. I'm I'm like golden here like every time I step up to a 2011. I just feel like I'm taking two steps back. We have a good time on your show, Clint. Good time on your show.

I get it. I can I see the value in 2011 platform. I just I haven't found the one for me yet. It's you know, it's the prodigy I think I think if you're gonna buy a 2011 I don't see a problem with the prodigy I know every one of the like the night the 1911 2011 guys they they I mean they want to throw you in a fire when you hear you bought a prodigy, you know, but it's like I like dude. I think you guys are

I honestly think it's it's it's gas station like It's like gas station food, you know where it's like you think it's good at the time But then it's like when you find something better you never really want to go back You sound like a lot of experience gas station

I did it back in my youth. I guess you want to invest in a 2011 that's right there as far as quality wise where you could take. It's basically like the Glock of 2011 to my opinion. Yeah. The prodigy is.

You know what that's a good that's a good analogy d i'll give you credit i think that because we talked a couple weeks ago about glock have been the baseline and we said that that's the minimum you should accept when it comes to the quality of a strike fire gun and all the features it does and does it come with i think the same thing for the prodigy have to have the the compensated version uh you know or the

Compt with a little port in the front, that's cool too. I had a prodigy. It's been on record that I got rid of it. It was a good gun, just didn't fit me in my needs at the time. I've considered revisiting it in the future, but as of right now, I haven't found one. I've got some friends that have 2011's that are watching, Lou and others, that they're convinced they're going to find one that fits me and works for me. I say bring it on, happy to try anything and everything.

I will say I will say I put a I put an apex trigger in my M&P 2.0 compact Yeah, and every time I pick up that gun I feel I feel that trigger is way better than any like highly tuned 1911 trigger. I've ever shot dude. It's like I'm just like it's pretty

Good. I've shot some some really, really spicy in my prodigy was really, really nice. I had it tuned and I put a red dirt trigger in it. That straight wall trigger just pulled straight back with the way the boat is designed. That's hard to beat, but the apex on the M and P man. I'm with you. Like I can't deny it. It's one of the best, but yes, I can't agree with you on that. It's better than a 1911 2011. There's that I just think that's the superior design because you can't f that up. You really can't f off that trigger pole.

No, I think that they I think that combination is the best trigger in the striker fire guns. Yeah. I agree. Yeah. I don't know. I think I think I just hate hammer guns. Yeah. I think that's what it is. I feel you like.

That's my only thing. And I grew up shooting a P89, like a Ruger, like my dad had an old 1911 that he had tuned by some gunsmith back in the day. I grew up shooting those guns, but when I moved on to what I would say far superior firearms, I was just like, I don't want anything to do with the 1911s anymore. That's fair. It makes sense. We are very much in the same boat.

We're very much in the same boat with that. I think that's fair. I mean, my thing with a 1911 is a capacity thing. I mean, there's so many guns out there now that can hold 15, 16, 17, 18 rounds.

Why, why not? You know, it, I mean, I, I've got my Hellcat Pro over here that I've got 17 Ron mags in it. And then I've got plus two base pads where it fits semi flush with a mag. Well, I'm carrying 19 in a small gun. Like, and then you give me a 1911 single stack. I'm like, well, I'm gonna do this. Like, I don't have a ranch to defend. I mean,

I mean, look at the Glock 43x. Yeah, Glock didn't come out with the 15 round mags, but shield arms did. And I've had some issues with like their first and second gen mags, but all their like their third gen mags, I think I've got 2500 rounds through like three or four mags now. And I haven't seen a hiccup. That's good. That's all. That's good, man. And I say, why no, you and I were talking on the DMS about having problems with those mags, but you know, I usually get mine from Brownells and

return policies, great, they'll cover it. And then if it gets from shield, she'll cover it too. See, I was pretty pleased with that. I like my 48s currently over at Laser Blade right now. I'm getting a little bit of love, but I love my 48. It's one of my favorite guns to shoot, especially with the Johnny Glocks trigger in it. That's something I need to really shoot your way is need to pass from this trigger, because that thing is nuts. That's nuts.

but if you ever do anything to your 43x or if you have a 48 that Johnny got 4311 trigger is the truth dude like it is so

so my 43x is my only carry gun all my other guns are just like what i mess with so i i the only thing i've done i haven't changed any of the internals i just changed it from because i i hate the standard lock trigger so i just change it to an apex trigger shoe the flat face one but i don't i don't mess with any of that uh and then it's like the only thing i put on it is a light an optic you know like what once once it has that like i'm i don't mess with i don't mess a lot with

my 48 because here in Texas, I just have a feeling if I have to, you know, I have to pull out my gun and shoot somebody that that's something that they're going to be like, oh, you modified it. He wanted to kill them all. You know, like, that's just one of those things where I was like, I don't want to have to deal with that. Yeah. Correct. Make it look fine. Yeah.

It is. It is. I'll send you guys some DMs. In fact, I'm going to have a video here pretty soon of it. So you guys should see it. You should see it up on the channel too. Okay. Cool. We're going to let you go so you can keep doing your driving stuff and please listen in while we continue the show. Oh, we'll do. We'll let you jump in here. We're going to let you go. Have a good one. See you.

Uh, let's see here. I got a couple questions in the chat. I'm going to hold on to them for next week. Um, Fumida Sanchez says he's confused in a world where the wall thermodynamic trigger exists. It's a good trigger. I don't don't doubt that and I don't disagree. However, it is.

good for a factory trigger in a gun. I still think the apex of the MMP is the best because there's just you can it has multiple springs, you can custom tune it. I feel like you can make it as firm or soft or spicy or bland as you want. And factory triggers won't let you do that. But it's great that for those that don't modify can have something like that big bearded gunner mentioned.

He listens to us and he stays confused because he never modifies his pistols. Well, that's fine. It's not everybody's flavor. But if you're looking for ways to do a couple things, to maybe improve the performance, we're your guys to kind of help you out. Hit us in the DM, so we'll help you answer some questions or messages here, and we'll make a question on the show.

I want to speak openly about the modifications of pistols. I don't think modifications will necessarily help you or hinder you, but it will amplify your skill sets better.

So I'll leave it at that. Like, if you run an OEM Glock trigger, there's fast shooters, like Mill Spec Mojo runs stock stuff and he's extremely quick. I'll even holler at our guy, John, John McCabe. He's a local guy. He shoots competition. He shoots competition with stock blocks. I got a ton of respect for guys that do that.

Yeah, yeah, I think that those things in order to be extremely proficient, you have to put a lot of time behind it. And for me, personally, I don't

You know what, I really want to get prepared for this box. I rather don't get something that's coming up and I can pick up and run and go. That's my thought as far as the upgrading go. I mean, if you guys looked at my posts over the past couple of weeks, I've been ripping different guns.

They've all been tuned triggers and all that jazz. And it's easy to do. Can I do it with a stock gun? Absolutely. Have I done it with the stock gun? Absolutely. So yeah, I think that's a fair point, dude. It's a fair point. Yeah. I think I think at the end of the day, we are big proponents of training, get really good training. We know a bunch of people in the live and that follow us and we're connected with our instructors. Get good training, build good fundamentals.

A modified gun helps improve some things. It also hides some deficiencies at times. But if you don't like an aspect of your gun and you don't want to get a whole other gun, there are things out there that can help it. Like if you don't like your trigger, it's too heavy. You can do things to make that better.

There's a lot of different things you can do if you want a mag well not all guns go mag wells and you're tired of banging up your polymer or scratching up your metal frame you know there's ways to improve some things but make sure you have good fundamentals. Reloading is a hard one because everybody wants to go fast and you fumble any cram it and it's not going where you want to go.

To get that but you know, if you have questions feel free to send us messages will make them part of the show and of course you can always just DM either of us anytime if one of us doesn't have an answer will find something that does we want to grow the community. And hopefully that'll improve we got a big bearded gunner wants to jump in he's the one that said he doesn't modify so let's talk about it.

So we'll try that again. So off to a good start. Appreciate everybody jumping in and chiming in on their feedback and stuff there. There he is. What's up, play? What's up, man? What's up, man? Yeah, you're good, my man. All right. I'm doing it. I'm doing it ahead. So what do you shoot? What do you like to shoot right now? I'm not going to lie. Like I'm a Glock fanboy, man. Like that's my first gun I've ever shot.

Um, so I've been on a Glock and I've tried to get away from it and I just I just can't come back to it, but yeah I'm one of those people too like and it's not just with guns It's with everything really like if I found something I like like a clone clothes Whatever like I kind of it's hard for me to move away from it. So that's why I kind of stick with glue. Yeah

What is that creature of comfort? Yeah, so once that you really like you stick to it and you really Take it to the you take that one item to the moon or whatever the case is

Yeah, and I think that's my only issue with modification is like I have no issues with it. Like I've always considered doing different modifications to some of my pistols, but I get so used to the OEM parts and everything like that, that are kind of like I'm scared to move away from it. Like I've not had like when I started shooting competition, I've not had

any hiccups, you know, stovepipes or anything. So I've not had any issues. So I'm kind of like, if I've not had any of those issues, why, why move away from it? So every time I think about doing it, then I talk myself out. No, I say I respect that because it's like, we talk about a bunch of times the others is that anytime you change something in your gun, that's a variable that could malfunction or have an error.

So, and if you do multiple things at once, and then you go shoot a competition, you're not sure what the problem is necessarily because you have all these things changing. So I respect that. And honestly, I've got a lot of props for you for just shooting a stock gun in competition because

Not many people do that. And the fact that you can do that and do it confidently, that gun is going to break in. I mean, Dean, I know you shoot a stock log trigger with enough time and it gets a proper break in. It's going to be really, really good. It's just the under a couple of thousand rounds, you know, it's not whatever it likes. But I get it, man. So what block do you compete with?

Um, I started with the 17, um, but then I got a 34 basically the same thing. So just a longer slide. Um, I'm, I'm, I'm getting ready to get a, um, a 47 just to have like a backup, but, um, I work at a gun store part time. And if you sell a certain amount of guns, you get free guns. Oh, it does. So I just got an M and P 2.0 because everybody's been telling me I need to get one. So I'm sorry.

Bro, that's good in fact shooting sentence got me into getting that so I know Spotify but you got you got to put the apex trigger in there. So when I ordered it like that ordered the one with the

They have different options when you can order the guns from. So I ordered the one with the threaded barrel because I keep thinking about getting the can for it. And I keep talking myself out of the can because I like just to keep my guns regular. But I got one with the threaded barrel to kind of talk myself into getting it.

So I'm going to I haven't done anything to it because you know I stick with my glocks or whatever, but I am going I got a dot I'm looking at I'm going to get put a flashlight on it because I have the MSP holster, which is my favorite holster Although I do have the apex holster to from here woman, so I haven't really put too much

Time into that one, but um so I have the m&p 2.0 So I'm thinking about doing the modifications to it because I don't think that I'm going to carry it Because I'm so used to my glocks sure So that might be my fun gun just to do a different modification to that I want to turn it off to monsoon I think I

I'll be in trouble if I was that close to him. That's tight, man. That's tight. No, that's cool. I think it's smart to be consistent. I think what I heard is that you are a creature of quality too. So you got some good holsters on you, my man. I love that. The MSP is really nice. I don't have one. There you go. The Apex is a nice one too.

Josh, have you tried the MSP? I've tried Rix, I believe. I tried Rix MSP one time. I have it. I have Rix MSP. Yeah. It's cool. It's cool. I actually kind of have my own MSP. So this holster is for light bearing for the Hellcat Pro. So I have a TLR7. What is this? X?

And it fits it, you know, nice and good. But then I also have a TLR7X on my Mac bro. And it also fits it, even though it's not supposed to. So I actually recently went to the range and I was carrying this gun and then I swapped to the Hellcat Pro to get more reps with it. And I was like, this is so dope. I wish I had an MSP from my other guns, but I don't have lights for all my guns, but I get it.

Now, I would say your MMP, man, I would love to see if that becomes your competition gun. But I know that if you and I think the same way, if you carry your Glock more and you're familiar with it more, you probably compete better with it more because you're using that more frequently. But that's cool, man. I'm excited to see what you do with the MMP. Even if you just keep a stock, the MMP stock is a great gun too.

Yeah, right. Yeah, like I'm excited to do some things to it just but just because I've never modified anything man So I'm excited to do something you didn't have fun first on that thing you're gonna be like

Well, the thing is though, you know, your classification change is based off that if you put ports in it and that kind of sucks because you're going to go against all these really high end open guns. So that would suck. I mean, I know if I ever do a competition, I'm getting thrown to the deep end with an open gun because everything I shoot is ported, but that's just I realize that I like the competition though.

Because I do shoot stock block and I shoot my competitions from appendix. So I like trying to push myself, trying to... A lot of people, they're worried about people saying, hey, I'm shooting from appendix so I can do... So if I wasn't shooting appendix, I could do this. I don't do that. I shoot from appendix.

And I'm like, love that. If they could do it, I can do it. And I can do it better than this person that that shoots from outside the waist. I love that. Don't you? That's my goal. Yeah. And I just moved up to B class. My goal is to move up to A class in a couple of years, 2026. So.

That's yeah, so that's dope man. That's dope I got a lot of respect for people that want to compete concealed because that's the only way I would do it Just because I'm a civilian. I don't I mean no no I'm not getting any way that runs out of the waistband because then that's your specific rig But I just don't have the bandwidth to train that way all the time when I carry Conceal it all the time. So that's how I would do it And I know D's the same way we've got a few people that have said We should do a competition and then a couple other people said if you guys do a competition I'll do a competition

So I feel like we fill up a whole squad if we just show up one day to a competition. We got you next year. I think we got to do at least one day. Yeah. No, I told you guys, if I didn't. Have you all not done yet? No, my kids sports is on the we as on competition days. Like I'm always. And Josh is always at his kids sports. It's a travel sports problem, dude. I see their eye.

And my daughter just did, um, she did volleyball this year. So I let her know ahead of time. I'm like, baby, listen, your game is this day, but daddy got a competition. So I'll make it after my competition. If I can, but if I can't, I'll make the next one. So

That's what I do. I want to do one. I've had enough people kind of urge me to do one and it's just because they've seen what I do at the range. I'm pretty decent shot. Okay. If you do one, what will be the gun that you bring to competition? Easy.

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I would run that and I know a lot of other people that run that gun as well and do very well with it. So if I can't do well with it, it's on me. So that's what I would pick. I would have to be like you bearded. I have that 34 that Glock 34 recently. That thing is I shot it for the first time finally after having it for like five months.

it's nice

what was I had a shield, an old school shield, 40 caliber. Yeah. And this before I was really truly in the shooting and stuff like that. And then my wife at the time, she had a Springfield something, whatever it was, but I was spending $16 a box for ammo and she was spending $7 a box for ammo pre COVID. Yeah. And I was like, yo, I'm moving to a nine. So then I moved to the Glock 19. And so I'm just, I'm stuck. Yeah.

And then especially because like the technology and ballistics has changed so much that

People might hate me when I say this, but like the 40 is just obsolete. Yeah, there's no reason. It's no reason. If I go into the woods, because people get the 10 millimeter for bear, first of all, more than likely my black ass ain't gonna be. I'm not gonna be in the woods, but I get it. It's a Caucasian thing. It's a Caucasian. I get it. I'll admit it.

If I do happen to go because I do want to go hunting eventually I have some Buffalo board plus P plus so I kind of figure I'll be all right if I if I have to go into Yeah, some like that with my so Bill Joseph war, right? Yeah But I do have a question like for for you Josh because you mentioned the the hell cat so I

That was another gun that I got for free working at the bookstore. Um, when I got it, it was, was it, then when you got yours, was it, was it off target? Like I had to put some rounds, I had to break it in because it was shooting high right, I believe. I can't remember maybe high left.

Um, and I'm everybody kept telling me like, um, it's your grip. It's the person. And normally if if someone was telling me their gun was not accurate, I would be like, it's you get your grip together. Pay attention to that. But I'm a good shooter. And I'm, and it was off. Like when I go to the range, I have a quarter size targets. If it's the indoor range, that's what I shoot at.

And it was off bad. And the more I shoot it, the better it gets. But did you have that issue with the Hellcat when you first got it? I did not have that issue. I think that what you might be experiencing is some barrels have the end of it that might have some burrs that were not smoothed out during the build process. And what you're doing by putting rounds through it is you're correcting it.

on your own. It sucks that you have to do that yourself. I would encourage you next time to review, like take a zoom in with your phone and take a look at it if it doesn't look clean.

Maybe send like, shoot up Vinny, for example, because he's helped people saying, yep, your barrel is not good from QC. I know full middle saying Springfield QC. My Springfield's are great out the box. I've been lucky because I know that some people also reached out to Vinny about they got a ported gun from Vinny. They came back and the gun was shooting all over the place.

Come to find out the end of the barrel that wasn't touched by monsoon was not properly bored out and smoothed out. So you might have some burrs that you're you're fixing on your own. If that's not it, it might be something inside the rifling that might be off.

But you'd have to have a gunsmith look at that to verify. But no, I didn't have those issues. The only issue I had was the trigger sucked, but I changed it up for an apex. Again, modifying. The more I shoot it, the more accurate it gets. So it's getting better. I was tripping it.

I was going to say, I'll tell you, I've got the echelon, I've got the Hellcat Pro, I had a Prodigy, and they put that little slip in as far as their 10 round zero that they do release what they said for accuracy and what the MOA is out the box. So that's a cool QC point.

I feel that a lot of my spring fields are really, really accurate. I don't know what it is with the barrels that I've got, but they feel like I don't have to really try to zone in on it. It's just going where it needs to go. And I was really pleasantly surprised with that. But since they may have had a different experience, we got official Eric TV. He's got a Hellcat. I said, his is accurate for him. So yeah, you might have got a bad one, but you might also be correcting it through the rounds. Yeah.

I want to take a good time, man. I want to come in and talk a little bit about the glocks and the modifications. When I start modifying, I'm going to let you all know when I modify some of my pencils, man. Absolutely, man. Head us up. We'll be happy to help you along the way. Yeah. All right. I appreciate you guys. All right, man. Be easy.

I love that, man. I love when people jump in. I've got to tell you all that are watching live. That is mine and Dee's favorite thing about having this show with you, is you guys talking to us. He's in Ohio, because I know we're Matt's Ramon Tundat. He's in Ohio, and it's cool that people want to connect with us and ask us for advice and perspective. So feel free anytime we're online, reach out. I know Dee and I get a little bit of warm fuzzies that you guys actually care what we think.

because we know we're grinding and trying to make this information available. And we're building connections to get more things out there for you guys. So, you know, just feel free to reach out. D. Yeah. Yeah. I don't even know where to start. Do you want to go through the questions we have? Or do you want to talk about what you did with Puse in the last week? So, so.

Yeah, we can go through the questions. We can go through some of the questions that we have here. Sure, sure. I've been talking on the back channels. Guys, just like Josh said, we love all the questions that you guys ask us. You make us have to think. And I like that.

I have still, we are still getting questions on the fuse and we are still getting questions on the 365 Mac bros, which is absolutely awesome. I feel like we need to make like just a standard video that just outlines everything because every time we show it, people ask what's in it. And I feel like we always say what's in it.

We can do that. I think what we'll do is we'll make a shorts on it. I mean, you can do that with your fuse, maybe a bunch of little reels. That way, if people want to know what triggered, go to the trigger reel. So yeah, feel free to check our content. We do have, or I do have on my YouTube channel, youtube.com-jweath.com.

I have a long form video breaking down these fuse with him. We had a bunch of people shoot it. You can see how it runs. It's got wild colors. What else did you expect from us? It's ported. It's got all kinds of goodies in it, and he does a full breakdown on it. So, you know, check that out on my YouTube channel. We don't have one on the Mac Bros. We should probably do one, which is a Mac Bros. gun day.

And check that out. We'll do that in the future. That's a good idea. But let's get these questions, my man. Since you're on the topic, this question only goes to you because you're the owner. So we got a question from K-Man Custom Propellers via Instagram. And he wants to know, MacBro versus Fuse, which is better.

Man, it's so difficult guys to say which one is better because they are both so I would say I Would say highly tuned not highly tuned but highly tuned to the to the point where it maintains all factory internals but things like The slot I mean look look how easy that is

for a single one inch slide or whatever you want to call it.

The fuse allows me and I stated this earlier, the fuse allows you to have a little more, it's a little more forgiving when running it. So like say my grip isn't all the way in, which I'm saying that to you guys, but 99.9% of the time my grip is all the way in, but say you're not, right? And it's a little loose. This is more forgiving to manage the recoil on versus. How was that?

I would say that because of the length of the slide, it's a little bit longer travel time as the slide is cycling, where it feels like it's not as, it's not as poppy.

You know, as it comes as it cycles in your hand, because it's the nose of the macros a little bit shorter, but I'll say this, the caveat is that the flashlight kind of gives it the feltness of the fuse.

So, here's what I'll leave you with. If I put the flashlight on the fuse, then the fuse would be superior over a flashlight on the map. So the flashlight really helps this. They even flatter.

So yeah, at the end of the day, they're very close, like very, very close. But the fuse is a little bit more forgiving. And in the other advantage, you guys already know, I have a big old SRO on here. So you're talking about optic windows. It's this one is half the window of an SRO.

That's it guys. Okay, there you go. Yeah, there you go. She's the glass, no matter how bad your grip man is. That's fair. That's fair. Okay, you heard it here. If we get that question again, we'll point them to episode 19. Yes. Or you'll have to start making some some shorts. So you got some reels to make my man. I'm gonna have.

to have pre-recorded answers. So it's like, select this if you want to know the questions. Do you want to build a fuse? Go here. You're going to get more fuse questions, honestly, because it's so new and SIG is now pumping out content for it. But you're one of the first to have one that is what's the first one that's most important. We know that for a fact.

So, when you're first to market with things, you're going to get a lot of people that are going to have questions, some people that are going to give you some crap for it. You know, some skeptical people that say, don't say, just always go off. Well, not 365's yet. So, you know, we'll see. I like it enough. It's on my short list of things to get. So, I think I might get a fuse in the near future and we'll do the thing.

Okay, next question. We've got a few more minutes here. Again, if you want to join us live, feel free. We'll jump to the questions we have here and take yours. Yeah, let me ask you this question. I'll ask you to carry the flame here this time. So with, I think it's shadow shot. Shadow shot asks a question. What pistol drills would you recommend for beginners?

Oh, that's a good one. I would say for beginners, we would start with anything that is low ground count. Not anything, you know, multiple rounds yet. We just want to get confident in our grip and our fundamentals, site acquisition and target acquisition. Good trigger pull. So what distance would you say maximum?

I'm a big defensive distance person. So, for example, when I took my wife to the range a year ago, we went together and was excited for a shoot. And we did, I think, seven yards, and then we did, like, five yards as well. Yeah. So anything that's short distance, I think, builds confidence. And people, new shooters will see the practicality of it, which makes sense, you know, where most conflict occurs at a shorter distance. I think

Anything that you start with, maybe low round counts, so three rounds or so. Slow down the caves. You know, you want to not set a high expectation for time. In fact, don't set a time to expectation. Again, I'm not an instructor. I'm just when I bring new people to shoot with me.

I want to help them have fun, but built some confidence. With my wife, we got her to shoot after an hour. One of the simulators at West Armory were like spins around the flips and stuff. And she was shooting three, four, five shots at a time. But there wasn't really a goal for time. It was just make sure the hits count.

And if the gun is being held down range, so everything was low ready. And then if your targets are ready for to shoot at, bring it up and fire. And if you're gun, so I'll do it on the video here. If you're down range and you're just holding the gun and you're still holding it and you haven't taken a shot.

You're doing something wrong. So I thought it was interesting to have it low ready and once it's up, take shots. But we got Lou, he wants to join in. I'm so excited to see what he has to say. He's a train instructor, but he's also a massive hater when it comes to everything that isn't Chicago. Oh, don't do that. Face Lou, you look so cute. Don't look like that.

So first of all, I'm sick. So I'm gracing you all with my presence from my sick bed as I'm cleaning my gun room. But secondly, I just had to come in to tell you, you know, the M&P 2.0 is trash, right? It's still trash. I do not.

fresh absolutely dumped the juice trash. I do not. I'm going to be carrying for the next six months now. People are like, oh, like you got to get an apex. I had like the second apex you're going to Glock when they made it. That makes it but it's still trash. You got something going on up there.

I'm just using violence because I picked up an M&P 2.0 medal, because I was like, let me try this, because people say it's ultimately gray, yada, yada, yada, whatever. The front backpack rattles on the piece of junk. Why? I've never stopped the medal. I don't like the medal. I like the polymer. The medal goes best one. If that's got rattles like a Morocco, what's wrong with it? Trash.

I don't think about it. They trashed you. I don't hear that. That's because you got 35 pounds of Sarah code on it. It's five daily moves.

Do you have something constructive to deliver? I just want to stay in this trash. That's it. That's all I want to say. Every week I come here and I come up to the altar of Glock and every piece of priority. I'm trying to figure out why. I can just do what I'm saying. I try to shoot a Glock. It's trash. Is the Glock trash or is it the person holding the Glock?

Just saying. It's all right. It's all right, but I mean, no, I'm just saying. I do like to say exactly how I will admit I do like those. That's pretty. The colors kind of make it better, but other than that, no. But if all these people worry about modifying your gun, do what you do what you like. Modify, make it better for you. Modifications unlock potential. I tell people all the time.

but just make sure they safe, make sure you understand what you're doing. You know, I get people that do 20 11s and they turn the trigger down to a pound and then they wonder why they can't shoot. I think that's the biggest thing too, when you're talking about that modifications with people that are new to the modification space is

making sure that you're modifying the gun to be safe because I have, and I'm sure you too, I have triggers. I have like four Glock triggers, not OEM Glock triggers, but other people's triggers that are not safe in the gun. Like, and I will not put it in my gun and they're in there and I'm not going to sell them to anybody, but I'm just like, they got trigger bars, trigger shoe, and they are unsafe. I'm like, man,

Yeah, it's got a switch, but it doesn't have a switch magically because I just changed the trigger and I'm like, this is not what I signed up for. I mean, but not what I was expecting and I would like to expect it.

Like, okay, cool. Can you do it consistently? The bad boys is watching stop. But like, so my competition gun, my competition 2011, my trigger is a penalty, penalty three, three eights. And I won't give it to anybody else to shoot. We'll probably give them a disclaimer like, look, don't put your finger on the trigger to you, understand the gun is going to go off.

But if you're worried about the whole modification, send it to somebody that knows what they're doing. I get tired of, because I get students that want to be the YouTube gunsmiths, and they don't know what they're doing. They'll try to do the 25 cent trigger job on the Glock. They pull out the Dremel. Next thing you know, they trigger bars about as skinny as a supermodel on the fast, and they wonder why they got no work.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Like you're like, you know, just being honest, like you're shooting mine. You're shooting mine. Nothing differently. There's nothing you can say. And I will stand on this and down this hill. There's nothing that anybody can tell me that says that a striker fired Glock M&P is better than a 2011 or finally tuned 1911.

that just shows that you have not had enough time buying a trigger or an instructor that can teach you how to unlock the potential. You know, I mean, I get that by 2011 and then they're like, well, I like my waltz are better. I'm like, let me show you how to shoot this gun. And then they're like, oh my god, I didn't know what to do this. Yeah.

that right i'll give you that so you know i've also posted a ton of videos on ripping guns and the fastest gun that i've ripped so far is the wilson right as far as managing the recoil it got a little loose on me because i'm learning just the how this presents and holds it's very strange to me but yeah i'll give you that the trigger is no doubtably fast but i think that

you can get some polymer frames to rip just as fast. So I think, so everybody's by hayglocks. So my first competition with the 34. But look, Lou, let me give you this. You're talking about an all metal 2011 ripping fast. And then you're talking about a polymer frame ripping fast, almost as fast as

I think Josh is right. I think we need to start going to lose competitions and just showing up.

I'd say like this. When you show me you can run a 10 split with your 2.0s and all that. And I give you the same gun and you run a 10 split. You tell me which one is easier. And I get it. But 10, 10, 8, 11, though.

You know, how much money did you spend to get it? You know what? We're not even going to go there anymore. We're not even going to go there anymore. Anybody can rip 10 splits. Let me see your hits, though, when you do it. 10 splits into the dirt, too. We don't shoot into the dirt. We shoot in the dubstep house, OK? Exactly.

Fast, I showed it on my Instagram. I ripped this gun extremely fast with shit accuracy for me. It was all over the place. Was it still hitting the body? Yes. Did it hit the alphas? No. Did I rip it fast? Absolutely. I think when we throw this argument statement as far as the split times go, I need to see fast splits and I need to see accuracy when people say, I can't run fast. That's the difference between

the conversations that we have and the information that we share. I am ripping guns quickly with accuracy. There's a ton of people that can rip guns quickly with shit accuracy or the ripping guns into the dirt. So I need to see some 2011s hitting those 10 splits on hard alphas. Show me that not not not a race gun. Just your standard

What are you going to quantify that race gun? What does that mean? You know what the race gun is. I see you hitting the like on those infinities over there. That's an EDC gun. Did you see that new lioness?

I have a love-hate relationship with Affinity. So I had an Affinity order prep. When I turned 50, that was going to be my new 50 year old gun. And then they stopped doing full customs. They started doing these drops. So I was like, I don't want the same thing everybody else has. They only make so many.

Yeah, they only make so many. They just, they do like a drop for this month, a drop for that month. So they don't do full custom. You can do whatever you want anymore, which kind of points me because it's like, you spend 12 grand for a gun and there's 25 other people with the same gun. But no, just, you know, gamut, you are a trash shooter with no accuracy. Gamut, gamut, you use a lot of AI to show his hits, that's all I'm gonna say.

But hey, the biggest thing is I actually got to look at his hands deserve to hit to throw billies out there. He won't throw no billies. Because a bill drill is not really, you know, it's a it's a measure of something. But of recoil management.

Pretty much. It's not real life. It's not real training. You get people that want to learn. They're like, I want you like John Wick. I'm like, if you try to shoot like John Wick right now, you end up like John Doe. So you got to tell them. I don't know about you. I ever have to get into a situation which I hope I never ever have to get. I'm not shooting two shots. No. I'm ripping a billy as quickly as possible. That's it. I want to see the shows after for the police report.

Like I was telling, we was leaving a match or something, and I looked over the gun punch. I said, damn, I see you imagine somebody rolled up on us and tried to attack us. Could you imagine the police coming in the shell cases that would be everywhere? It would be a full-magged up, a reload, and another magged up. I fear for my life.

I think for my life, I had to stop the threat. He needed more medicine. I'd be like, well, sir, he still wasn't able to, he wasn't on the ground. I'm sorry, I had to rip these, had to rip the zipper, I had to give it all the way up and take them all the way back to you. Just don't bring out, just don't bring out the perf card. You'll be good. I'd say you, I'd say like this people worry about alphas. Distributed damage is more effective than center is. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You want to be all over the place to make it difficult to seal that.

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Yeah, I don't know. Blue, you're an instructor. This is a good question that came to us. I'm not an instructor, but what is a good drill that you recommend for beginners? So, I like a drill that focuses on the fundamentals, but it depends on the shooter, though. If you're looking for somebody that's recoil or verse, then there's different drills for that. If you're looking for somebody that's a brand new shooter, you know,

But maybe they've been to the range a couple of times. I'm a fan of a good, that torture. Like I will tell you, because it makes you focus on every different discipline. Offhand, strong hand, all that. You tell them to do it at your own pace. I used to hate that drill. I still hate that drill.

I'll do it. But you start them up at three yards, they learn offset, they learn a bunch of stuff, and then you push it back. Like, you know, when you get to like my room in pistol three to qualify, you got to be clean a dot torture at 10 yards. And people say, it was only 10 yards, but I wanted that speed. You got you want to, if you want to go in and run like the big dogs, it's not about, you know, being cool and doing it for the reels. It's about fundamentals at speed.

If you can master the fundamentals that's, you know, taking your time, wrap it up from three to five to seven and increase that speed every time that drill is easy by packing the targets for like 10 bucks and do that as your baseline before your cold warm up drill, your cold start drill. And as you kind of see your score improve, you push it back and you push it back and you push it back.

And it makes you stay honest, because those guys don't lie, it's like, hey, it's in and out. Do you generally see people focus on accuracy so much that they actually start falling apart when speed is introduced? Because I tend to see that where I see people heavily put

I'll see instructors heavily put an accuracy into their curriculum. And then you're like, all right, now shoot a volley of three and that person just falls. But the accuracy when they slow fire is top tier.

So you got to, and that's what she'll get mad at me. But that's what she does. When she shoots competition, all of her shots are right on top of each other. And she's worried so much about accuracy. I'm like, look, as long as the alpha is an alpha, yeah, alpha doesn't have to be shots right on top of each other. Those are the three.

a pretty big box and she was like, well, how the hell did you be? Because I dam you into a Charlie. But I was a second and a half faster. So understanding that you have to kind of start with, start with something like a build drill. Then you work on some defensive fundamentals, defensive accuracy. You start with, okay, what does it look like to run? Like I hate build drills because build drills make people fall apart.

Let me get, let me get a one R one. Let me get a three R three something. Let me get something that's going to push the pace, but also make you account. Give them, you know, tell them to, hey, look, don't worry about the speed. Let's worry about ramping up our fundamentals. Let's worry about ramping up that motion. Like, where are we losing efficiency in our reloads?

where we live in a fantasy with presentation today that is the same presentation like really and understand every shooter should keep a journal I tell people quick I'm making a journal like they're 13 year old I'm gonna get a journal like let's figure out where you are because if you go to the range here like I don't know what to do you give them a standard drill track your progress yeah

Yeah, that's a good idea. Okay, track your speed. Okay, what are you looking like for here? And it gives you something to say, Hey, I see the progress. Cause like when you start like losing weight or whatever, you don't notice until you see somebody ain't seen you in six months. They're like, dude, you're wasting away. And I'm like, Oh shit, like cool. Must be. But understanding that progress is gradual. I was going to burn about goddamn, cause you know, once we get to the culture, it's about what's going on with Instagram. Stop looking at these people Instagram, cause these real shooters ain't real shooters.

We know it. They don't show the hits. It's real cool. They got the cool cuts and the gunners rotate in slow motion and all that other shit and you never see the hits. Hey, I never show hits. Y'all know this. Never. You didn't clean the gun, so I didn't believe anything you did.

But that's the thing. When you start talking about all these modifications, the first modification they should do is go to a goddamn trainer. But even if you go one time, get the fundamentals, have somebody a bag and go back in six months and say, hey, I want to get an evaluation. Show me where I'm at, push me to see, push me to failure, then let's back off and start building from that. But all these fancy triggers and all this other stuff, yeah, it hides, like you say, it hides deficiencies.

because hey, my trigger, you know, it takes a lot of slop out. So we slapping the shit off the trigger is not going to really affect it that much because the trigger is going to break faster. But my application is a port and all that. Yeah, okay, my gun is ported. It's flanged us down. Do you see a bunch of people that got a jacked up grip and against don't fight? You put a gun, you still got to be able to grip a gun. Yeah.

Yeah, I know someone that we shot with that was saying that their gun wasn't running. Oh, yeah. And then I shot their gun and says, run just fine for me. And they're like, what do you mean? I would do my proper grip, rip a couple rounds. And I didn't have the heart to tell them that it's you. You know, I just said, so.

bridge yeah later on i said hey i think you're your your grips a little off and he thought oh i need to do this with my thumb i know no no he to clamp back so that guns stay in place and he's like really and so i gave him his gun back i said i think i broke it in for you put on quote

And then he shot it and he was like, I see, I see it's me. I'm like, yeah, so I mean, you know, I've had people that have had their zeros that are quote unquote, not either dots not zero. And then I should have gone like, it's zero just fine. But like what am I? I think you're flinching a little bit or you're pulling it. And I'm like, so either we can zero it for that.

which would be weird to do. Or we could show you that on a bench, it runs straight. It's a youth. And that's the thing is that we joke, but the three of us, I think, are pretty decent caliber shooters.

We know we're doing becomes the modifications we know what the deficiencies are so i know for example like when i watch some of my footage uh from like my glass or whatever if i saw my spread start to grow out i'll see that my support hand starting to loosen up a little bit like yep that's what it was that was me it wasn't the gun spreading i wasn't because of the spring field or whatever it's it's a me thing i always put it on me first if it's a a

You stop last time you spring field. We're not into the politics here. Okay. I don't care what they did years ago. Time up today. But that's good. I was gonna say another drill I like that you didn't mention. I like a Mozambique, not for speed. Don't know for speed, but just because it forced you to kind of focus on like using one target for multiple target acquisitions is pretty neat. Two to the body, one to the head.

Think about the Mozambique. What's the teaching you for real life? Because most people in a real stressful environment, 99% of people out there are going to go into an environment, they're going to stress out, they're going to piss themselves, and they're not going to make a headshot. So I do what's called a reverse Mozambique. I do two to the body, two to the pelvic girl.

hmm that's pretty good because they're going for me and then as we kind of get you know because they're going down because at the end of the day you get to to the body but they're falling and if they're still coming because they have armor on you hitting the headshot is going to be super super not not a thing that's going to happen right so you hit that call over girl you break those hips

or you can't know why they're going down and then the public girl to where it was is now the a-zone. It doesn't matter. But I challenge people to stop doing these drills where they teach themselves to to the body, want to the head, to to the body, want to the head. And then when you throw a disruption on it, because I got people that old.

Fucking Mozart beak up there will rip it down like blah blah blah, John Wick. And then I tell him, okay, give me two to the body, two to the pelvic. And they were like, oh, wait, what? I'm gonna shoot the ground. Well, let's go ahead. Like, is the ground going to go crime? Yeah. Like, what's going to happen? Like, at the end of the day, we want us a more reliable shot. So, you know, try that because the ASO does keep you accurate as far as that bottom, but in real life,

They're probably going to mistake. I love that. I've not tried that. I will try that because I've done some drills where they say do it backwards, do it in a different order, and it really mess with your brain for a second. You got to rewire yourself because you get used to the same thing over and over again. A simple change-up is when people do build with us, they're happy to do that, but we say not do it

going backwards, walking backwards, like, what? I move into it. I'm like, Oh, yeah, you're not just gonna stand there. Are you? Well, what do you mean? No, you'd like to move and, you know, we'll get off the edge. And it's like, you know, hard because you got to back up. And people might wait a minute, be back up. Like, like, you got to know how to walk with your gun. If you don't know how to walk with your gun, you're going to look bad. And then when you look back, you're not going to make the time. Right. There's no racial awareness. Yeah. We're

I don't know why he didn't just do the biggest service. He trying to save ammo. Game is, you know, it's terrible. The original one way better. He's watching. He's watching. He's writing all this feedback down. He's taking notes, I'm sure. He's taking notes. He can be like, look at my new drill, where you shoot two to the body and one to the pelvis. They call the Baltimore booking. That's what they call it.

keep it interesting though don't let yourself as a new student or as a new shooter fall into the well this is what everybody told me to do yeah think of what happens in real life like people like well I would never shoot more than seven yards like if you ever been in Costco and some shit pop up Costco allows a long as hell yeah

Like, yeah, people were like, well, I would never, you know, anything past seven yards is not worth trying. I'm like, okay. Like, what happened when, you know, when these big spaces where something happens and you ain't got no choice. Like, you better better make the 25 yard shot. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, my last range session, we were, we started close and then we said, let's, let's kick it up. And I made the drill, we start from 25 hitting a, you know, a steel, but still, because from far, you got to know. And you, yeah, me, man.

Oh, yeah, right. You're like 25 head box only. Oh, Lord. That's him. Now that's this guy. I want the problems with you. I'm just you know, that's it. That was only day. Remember? Oh, yeah. We didn't have was only day. So we played a game. So I'll put this on you to try out with with your peeps out there. We learned this from from Buck Lawler who learned it from Donovan at point one.

And the philosophy was shooting is a privilege when he got the train. So we know some guys that will run drills with us and their hits are dog shit. Just terrible. But then, you know, I'll do better. Really bad. So we played a game where it was

We did with bucket was alphas and Charlie's only if you did it in Alfredo Charlie as you're doing the drill done. You stop done. We did alphas only with the squad rules guys. We were very confident and halfway through like this sucks. I got so much ammo left over.

But it was cool because I forgot what the name of the game is. But basically, you design a course of fire. Everyone has to follow the course of fire. And then the fastest time wins. The first person who sets the time gets a rebuttal. And then the back and forth between the best time and the rebuttal until only one person has the best time. But in that course of fire, if you don't complete the course of fire, you're done. Your time doesn't matter because you didn't complete it. So you've got a couple of guys that was like,

Two shots great move on to the next one. We did mostly doubles move on to next target is like third shots good four shot is no good And that's it and they're like why I got five more targets doesn't matter your drills over Yeah, it's called kettle ball or king of the hill. I I got fancy called it king of the drill, but either way So it's but yeah, I think it's cool. It would it would cause your your buddies to Realize if you can't move through the course of fire accurately

You got more ammo for the next one. There you go. So we call it like a no fail pistol class where every hit counts. Because of real life, every hit counts. Like if you missed that shot, you're effectively, you know, you're done. Call it a day. Yeah. But yeah, that's what I jumped on. Because training is very important in there again to me. I mean, I tell every new student, first of all, don't buy it. I'm a P2.0 because they trash. You know, I'll just lose from the life.

That's me, guys. I just wanted to say good show, of course, always, but just, you know, focus on the people that listen and focus on the fundamentals before the modifications. That's it. Right. Before you start worrying about doing fancy stuff, these guys can actually shoot. So if I give them a stock gun, I'm pretty sure they be to perform. All the other modifications don't do anything if you have no foundation. You had the best house in the world, but the foundation is shit, the house is shit.

So you have all the fancy windows, and ports, and doors, and everything else. But do you just fancy do with a gun that can't shoot? I agree. Hey, look at those. We've seen a lot of girls. I was out on the purify, and I saw a guy come up there, and he had a whole-ass antler service. $8,000. He had all the mags and everything else. And two minutes into his range session, he had slide bike, and his shots were looking. And he was literally shooting like this. And I'm like,

I was like, dude, the deeper tells me Nick. Oh, this dude watches our show. He was about, he was about, he was, you know, he was watching the show. He was out there with the Gucci sneakers on. All the other stuff that he was shooting like this. And I'm like, and I'm looking and I'm looking and I'm looking and I want to go there so bad and help him. I was like, I'm not though, because it's not my, it's not my world. I'm going to let him go ahead and run him. He had all the mags and all the other stuff. And I was like,

He has like 12, $13,000 of stuff over there. And he literally is holding a gun up like this with a giant SRO on him. He couldn't see it and trying to run steel. He got slide by. He got a stove pipe. I'm like, how do you get like, you literally are running an urban. So I'm like, I just, I want to go. Let me show this guy. But it was like, it just shows you no matter what you buy, you can't buy performance.

like, you know, you got to buy a performance by that by pay with dedication. That's what I tell every student. Absolutely. I should put that into a lot of ideas tonight. You should join us more often. You know, I'm just the date call, the night will kick it in right now. All y'all in the real fuzzy right now. So it's going to lead out and think about, you know, 2011's and how they're so much better than

you know, all this other stuff. You're breaking up. I appreciate you.

Oh man, this was a good talk tonight. We do have some more questions, but our time has exhausted. We got some others that came in. I'll take them down. Again, we'll take your questions all the time. We want to be a good resource for you guys. I think a good way to end the video is where the show is kind of what Lou said.

You can't buy performance if you're fundamentals, if you're skills, if you're not practicing, if you haven't had instruction. So take it from two guys who are sent myself taught, but have had some formal instruction from some people that are notable in the industry. I want to go to more classes. I love doing some of those rudimentary basic drills just because I want to verify where I'm at.

I know some things I'm not good at like my last rain session I mentioned before. I did some strong hand and support hand shooting. And I was pleasantly surprised that I'm still pretty decent at that even though I don't practice that. So it's nice to kind of get a pulse, you know, verify that you're still good at what you're good at and identify the areas of weakness. I think that's something I tell my son.

He always hears that practice makes perfect thing. And I just hate hearing people say that because it's practice makes progress. You're never going to be perfect. You're not going to shoot 100% of a drill all the time, especially with pistols, pistols, I think. And that's why I think you and I really gravitate toward it. It's one of the hardest competencies when it comes to firearms rifles. I think we're a lot easier because of multiple touch points. I mean, I can shoot a rifle any day.

plays that stuff is harder because stuff moves. We got to do that again. But there's a lot of there's a lot of stress on what we do our guns and how do we do it. But remember, you can buy all the mods you got. Yeah, if you can't run that gun. Tough. I mean, that's that's on you. So if you guys ask us questions and say, Hey, I'm still having this problem or these groupings and whatever.

It ain't the gun. Thank you. Yeah, if you don't have those fundamentals, those groupings are still going to spread out. But the good part is once you start identifying your shortcomings, that's when you know you're starting to grow when it comes to the personal growth and the pistol space. So when I miss shots, I know why I miss shots.

And that's important, is knowing why. More so than you did it, it's knowing why and how you did it so you can correct it. And I just say, that's good that you know that. But if the audience doesn't know, reach out to somebody. Have us help you triage. We'll be happy to, you said us a video. We can break things down for you. If you post, if you post your own videos online and you show your hits,

We'll be happy to help you we don't want to jump in and tell you what to do we're not that type of people but if you ask for help will be happy to help you give us our perspective and advice you come shoot with us if you're in Florida if you ever want to come down Florida shoot with us we help people all the time that just you know want feedback and advice. I think a lot of times what we like to do is move when we shoot. And a lot of people are good at just saying still and doing a static line thing because a lot of.

ranges don't let you move but uh yeah if you're not sure reach out static liner you're standing still rip a bill drill that'll tell you everything well not if your range lets you but yeah let's say if your range lets you do that yeah but all right yeah some of some ranges will be like uh i need a shot every second

Oh, sorry, my bill drills are two seconds or less, hopefully. That's right. Yeah. And so hey, thank you everybody for joining us for a lovely evening. Sorry we went over on time. We were filling in some questions. We have more questions that we'll bring up in next week's episode. But you guys have a wonderful night. Again, you can tap in on all the different modalities that we have available.

It's at the front of this call and that's it man. I got nothing else Dean This is a good one. Yeah, I'm happy that people are watching and participating and of course man I'm glad to see you and I'll get you your property So that's there. Thank you for joining us for episode 19 We'll see you next week for another episode on the show. Yeah

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