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    JRE MMA Show #144 with Jared Cannonier

    en-usAugust 02, 2023
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    What unique experience does fighting at the Apex provide?
    What resources does the UFC Performance Institute offer fighters?
    What challenges do fighters face when recovering from injuries?
    How did Terrence Crawford demonstrate his boxing skills against Earl Spence?

    Podcast Summary

    • The Impact of Crowd Energy on UFC Fighters and the Value of the UFC Performance Institute.The crowd's energy can greatly affect fighters, motivating them to take control of the fight. The UFC Performance Institute offers resources for fighters to improve their performance and transition between weight classes.

      The energy and atmosphere of the crowd in an arena greatly impacts fighters during a UFC event. Jared Cannonier explains that the crowd's reactions can either invigorate or motivate fighters to take control of the fight. Both Joe Rogan and Cannonier highlight the unique experience of fighting at the Apex, where the smaller size of the crowd creates a more personal and intimate setting. The UFC Performance Institute (PI) is also mentioned as a valuable resource for fighters, providing scientific assistance with weight cutting and offering state-of-the-art facilities. Additionally, Cannonier's transition from heavyweight to middleweight is discussed, with no other fighter mentioned as successfully making the same journey.

    • The Dangers of Weight Cutting in Combat SportsWeight cutting in combat sports can be dangerous and should be done with caution. Fighters should prioritize their well-being and make informed decisions about weight management to avoid serious health problems.

      Weight cutting in combat sports can have dangerous consequences and should be approached with caution. Jared Cannonier discusses his experiences with weight cutting and mentions the importance of having enough time to safely make weight for a fight. He emphasizes the significance of monitoring portion sizes and making dietary changes to effectively cut weight. Both Cannonier and Joe Rogan highlight the potential risks associated with extreme weight cutting, such as severe dehydration and compromised health before a match. They suggest that having more weight classes or even eliminating weight cutting altogether could create a more level playing field and promote healthier competition. It is essential for fighters to prioritize their well-being and make informed decisions regarding weight management in order to prevent serious health complications.

    • The Need for Fighters to Prioritize Health and SafetyExtreme weight cutting in MMA can have serious consequences; fighters should prioritize their well-being, use safe supplements, and focus on proper nutrition to perform at their best.

      Extreme weight cutting in MMA can have serious consequences for fighters' health and performance. Joe Rogan expresses concern for fighters who dehydrate themselves and then rehydrate right before a fight, emphasizing the danger this poses to their bodies. Jared Cannonier agrees, stating that he has chosen to avoid extreme weight cuts to prioritize his well-being. Both men discuss the importance of using safe and third-party-tested supplements, with Joe Rogan sharing his disappointment over the banned use of certain healing substances. They also touch on the convenience of meal services for proper nutrition and mention Fader Emelianenko's impressive composure and resilience in the face of Kevin Randleman's intense suplex. This discussion highlights the need for fighters to prioritize their health and safety in order to perform at their best.

    • The Evolution and Growth of MMA: From Risk-takers to Mainstream RecognitionMMA has come a long way, from fighters relying solely on their chosen martial arts style to becoming a popular and recognized sport, thanks to pioneers and mainstream media exposure.

      MMA has evolved significantly over the years, with multiple generations of fighters and improved skill sets. In the early days, fighters had no previous examples to learn from, and they participated in fights hoping their chosen martial arts style would be enough. The pioneers of MMA, such as the Gracies, Shamrocks, and Severins, took risks and paved the way for the sport's growth. The UFC faced significant challenges, including being banned from cable and struggling to secure venues and sanctions in certain states. However, the sport eventually gained mainstream recognition and popularity, especially after Spike TV started broadcasting it in 2005. Through personal experiences and exposure to MMA fights, Jared Cannonier developed an interest in the competitive aspect and martial arts.

    • Jared Cannonier: From College to the Army, Finding Passion in Martial ArtsThe significance of teaching soldiers diverse fighting techniques to enhance their skills and ensure maximum proficiency and defense.

      Jared Cannonier discovered his passion for martial arts while transitioning from college to the army. He realized that practicing martial arts was something he wanted to do with his body and something he felt meant to do. Even as a child, he was interested in martial arts and would play around with boxing gloves in his father's garage. In the army, Jared had the opportunity to participate in a combatives tournament and found great joy in learning and applying his mental capacities to martial arts. Although the army's program focused more on grappling and modified striking, Jared recognized the effectiveness of elbows in combat and has been working to improve his repertoire with elbows. The conversation highlights the importance of teaching soldiers various fighting techniques for maximum proficiency and defense.

    • Reflections on Strike Force and the Evolution of MMAThe combination of organizations in MMA and collaboration amongst experts accelerates progress, but martial arts is also shaped by individual passion and artistry.

      Strike force was an organization that showcased elite fighters who were on par with those in the UFC at the time. The conversation highlights some memorable fights and moments from strike force, emphasizing the high level of competition and talented athletes involved. It is mentioned that the combination of different organizations, such as Bellator and PFL, coming together may have a significant impact on the progression and development of MMA. Additionally, the conversation touches on the idea of focusing on the advancement of martial arts as a collective consciousness, with experts from various fields coming together to test new ideas and accelerate progress. However, it is acknowledged that martial arts is more than numbers and quantification, as it is influenced by individual passion and artistry.

    • The Importance of Coaching and Training Environment in MMAFinding the right coach and training environment is crucial for success in MMA. Jared Cannonier's journey highlights the value of effective communication, commitment to training, and the potential for unexpected growth in the sport.

      Finding the right coach and training environment is crucial for success in mixed martial arts (MMA). Jared Cannonier's journey highlights the importance of having a coach who can effectively communicate and connect with the fighter. His relationship with his coaches at Gracie Baja Alaska, an MMA team, played a significant role in his development as a fighter. Additionally, Cannonier's commitment and dedication to training, even in challenging circumstances, exemplify the determination required to excel in the sport. Despite starting with judo and focusing on jiu-jitsu initially, his interest in striking grew over time. This conversation demonstrates the value of finding a supportive team and the potential for unexpected growth and achievements in one's chosen field.

    • The Importance of Personal Growth and Internal Development in Martial ArtsJared Cannonier's success lies in his commitment to personal growth, continuous improvement, and embracing the internal aspects of martial arts.

      Jared Cannonier emphasizes the personal and internal aspects of martial arts as a means of personal development. He believes that his constant improvements and noticeable progress in his fights result from staying dedicated to the path and working hard. Cannonier's coach has noticed his big improvements and praises his ability to continually evolve even at the top level, where progress is usually incremental. Cannonier's recent victory over Marvin Vittori shows his growth and technical skills. Furthermore, the conversation touches on the significance of weight cutting and rehydration in fighting sports. Overall, the key takeaway revolves around Cannonier's commitment to personal growth, continuous improvement, and the significance of embracing the internal aspects of martial arts.

    • Importance of hydration and sleep for athletesPrioritizing hydration and sleep is crucial for athletes' overall health and performance, as it ensures proper brain functioning, durability in the ring, and helps prevent serious injuries in combat sports.

      Proper hydration and adequate sleep are essential for athletes, especially before a fight. Jared Cannonier emphasizes the importance of cutting off the night early to ensure a good night's sleep and waking up early to have enough time for hydration. Joe Rogan agrees and acknowledges the dangerous tradition of dehydrating oneself before a fight. They discuss how dehydration can negatively impact the body, including the brain's functioning and durability in the ring. They also mention the horrific injuries that can occur in combat sports, such as shin breaks and arm snaps. Overall, the conversation highlights the need for fighters to prioritize their health and well-being before stepping into the ring.

    • The Impact of Injuries on MMA Athletes' Performance and CareerProper training, preparation, and technique are essential in minimizing the risk of injuries in MMA, as injuries can have long-lasting effects on an athlete's performance and fighting style.

      Injuries in MMA can have long-lasting effects on an athlete's performance and career. Both Joe Rogan and Jared Cannonier discuss various injuries they have experienced, highlighting the physical and mental challenges that come with recovering from such injuries. They discuss the difficulty of repairing injuries like spiral arm fractures and torn pecs, emphasizing that healing can be a complex process. They also mention how certain injuries, like a broken ulna or a damaged nose, can impact an athlete's fighting style and cardio. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of proper training, preparation, and technique to minimize the risk of injuries in MMA.

    • Jared Cannonier: A Fighter's Mindset of Growth and LearningJared Cannonier's focus on constant growth, studying opponents, and personal fulfillment shows that success in any field comes not just from talent, but from dedication and a love for the process.

      Jared Cannonier approaches his fighting career with a mindset of constant growth and a love for learning. He sees each fight as a challenge and an opportunity to conquer his opponents. Cannonier emphasizes the importance of studying and analyzing his opponents in order to make adjustments and improve his skills. He is not solely focused on being entertaining but rather enjoys the process and the personal fulfillment he gains from his training and fighting. Despite being 39 years old, Cannonier continues to get better and serves as an impressive and inspirational figure in the world of elite athletes.

    • Jared Cannonier's Late Start and Peak Athleticism in Martial ArtsJared Cannonier's late start in martial arts has allowed him to maintain peak athleticism by avoiding unnecessary damage and having a realistic approach, reflecting a samurai-like mentality.

      Jared Cannonier's late start in martial arts has actually benefitted him in terms of mitigating wear and tear on his body. While others may have started training at a younger age and accumulated years of injuries, Cannonier entered the sport as a mature man with a body that still believes it is much heavier than it actually is. By taking care of himself and not subjecting his body to unnecessary damage, he has been able to maintain peak athleticism well into his late thirties. This conversation also highlights the realities of the fighting world, where only a few individuals actually make it to the top, and the importance of having a realistic approach and a backup plan. Cannonier's approach to learning from various sources and becoming a better person in addition to a better martial artist reflects a samurai-like mentality.

    • Embracing Identity and Potential: A Path to Personal Growth and SuccessChoose positivity and personal development, embrace honesty rather than profit-driven trash talk, and commit to constant growth and discipline for success.

      Embracing one's true identity and potential is essential for personal growth and success. Jared Cannonier emphasizes that he does not seek to distinguish himself from others based on labels or stereotypes, but rather recognizes the potential that all individuals possess. He believes that humans have the unique ability to choose whether to embody negative or positive qualities and strive for personal development. Cannonier's mindset of constant growth and his commitment to martial arts as a discipline contribute to his success in the UFC. Additionally, the conversation touches upon the entertainment aspect of the sport, highlighting the importance of staying true to oneself and embracing honesty instead of engaging in trash talk for the sake of profit.

    • Jared Cannonier's Career-Changing Move to Arizona's MMA LabMaking strategic decisions, like moving to a training facility with top-level fighters, can greatly impact one's career and increase their chances of success in their field.

      Jared Cannonier's move to Arizona, specifically to the MMA Lab, was a pivotal decision in his career. After receiving advice from friends who were training there, Cannonier took the opportunity to improve his skills and take his MMA career to the next level. Moving from Alaska to Arizona allowed him to train with top-level fighters and gain valuable experience. Although he initially thought he would continue fighting as a heavyweight, his encounters with other heavyweight fighters made him consider dropping weight classes for competitive advantage. This decision was influenced by his desire to compete against highly skilled opponents and increase his chances of success in his career. Overall, Cannonier's move to Arizona turned out to be a strategic move that helped shape his journey in the UFC.

    • Diverse Training Approaches for Elite FightersThe training methods of elite fighters can vary greatly, with some prioritizing strength and conditioning while others focus on fight-specific training. Finding an approach that suits an individual's strengths and goals is crucial.

      The approach to training for elite fighters can vary greatly. Some fighters, like BJ Penn, prioritize strength and conditioning as a way to develop an insane gas tank and overall endurance. This involves intense plyometric exercises and high-intensity endurance work. On the other hand, fighters like George St. Pierre focus more on fight-specific training and efficiency, honing their technique and drilling various fighting scenarios. These different training philosophies can be attributed to the individual's character, their martial arts background, and the coaching they receive. It is important to note that having a strong gas tank is beneficial, but it is only effective if the fighter already possesses exceptional technique. Ultimately, the key is finding a training approach that suits the individual fighter's strengths and goals.

    • Jared Cannonier on Discipline, Age, and Safety in SportsMaintaining extreme discipline, like Bernard Hopkins, and prioritizing safety measures, such as using wrestling mats, are crucial for athletes who want to compete at a higher age and remain physically active.

      Jared Cannonier envisions himself as a level 39 badass and doesn't see age the same way as most people do. He wants to continue competing and remain physically active well into his older years. Based on Joe Rogan's observation of elite athletes who compete at a higher age, extreme discipline is a common factor. Cannonier agrees and discusses the discipline of Bernard Hopkins, who never let his physical condition deteriorate. The conversation then shifts to the potential dangers of using canvas in MMA fights, as it can become slippery and cause injuries. They suggest using wrestling mats instead, as they provide better traction and are easier to remove logos from. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of discipline and safety in sports.

    • Material Matters: The Importance of Choosing the Right Fabric and Equipment for Performance and SafetyThe right choice of material and equipment can greatly impact functionality, performance, and safety in different contexts, highlighting the need for careful consideration in selecting appropriate materials for specific purposes.

      The type of material used in shirts, such as the Jack Engineer Merch, can greatly impact its durability and performance. Joe Rogan and Jared Cannonier discuss how the shiny, water-resistant material of the shirt makes it unsuitable for canvas artwork, highlighting the importance of choosing the right fabric for different purposes. They also touch on the use of wrestling shoes in martial arts and how they provide better traction and footwork. This conversation underscores the significance of considering the properties of materials and equipment in various contexts. It emphasizes the impact that the right material choice can have on functionality, performance, and safety.

    • Terrence Crawford's Performance and Praise from Joe Rogan and Jared CannonierCrawford's exceptional skills, ability to adapt, and precise punches solidify his status in boxing, while Cannonier's interest in combat sports and Rogan's acknowledgment of his ranking add to the conversation.

      Terrence Crawford's performance in the fight against Earl Spence Junior showcased his exceptional skills and solidified his status as an all-time great in boxing. Both Joe Rogan and Jared Cannonier expressed their admiration for Crawford's ability to change his tempo and approach, as well as his precise and accurate punches in tight positions. They also discussed the upcoming fight between Crawford and Boots Ennis, recognizing Ennis as another talented switch hitter. Amidst their discussion, Cannonier mentioned his interest in watching various combat-related sports and his own background in capoeira. The conversation ended with Rogan expressing his hope for Cannonier's next fight and acknowledging his ranking in the division.

    • The Importance of Strategy and Continuous Learning in the Competitive World of UFCIn UFC, it is crucial for fighters to focus on strategy, discipline, and continuous improvement, rather than relying solely on flashy styles and knockout wins, in order to succeed against top-level opponents.

      The middleweight division in UFC is filled with incredible talent and competition. Joe Rogan and Jared Cannonier discuss the recent fights and the challenges faced by fighters. They emphasize the importance of not taking unnecessary risks, especially when facing elite opponents. They acknowledge that flashy styles and early knockout wins can be impressive, but may not always work against top-level fighters. They highlight the need for fighters to constantly improve and analyze their techniques, understanding the impact they have on their position and their opponent's response. Ultimately, they stress the significance of strategy, discipline, and continuous learning in order to succeed in the highly competitive world of UFC.

    • The Benefits of Cold Plunges and Ice Baths in RecoveryIncorporating cold plunges into a recovery routine can have positive effects on well-being and performance by enhancing physical and mental health through the cooling and reheating of the body.

      Incorporating cold plunges or ice baths into one's recovery routine can be beneficial for overall well-being and performance. Jared Cannonier highlights the use of a cold plunge, ice baths, stretching, and massages as key components in his recovery process. He mentions that doing the cold plunge after workouts or first thing in the morning can have positive effects. Additionally, Joe Rogan suggests incorporating sauna sessions and outdoor workouts to further enhance the benefits of cold plunging. They discuss the idea of cooling down the body and then reheating it, which is believed to have positive effects on testosterone levels. Overall, implementing a simple practice like a cold plunge can support physical and mental well-being.

    • Importance of Proper Preparedness in the WildernessAdequate clothing, gear, and wildlife management are vital for comfort, safety, and avoiding conflicts with animals. Being unprepared can lead to discomfort, loss, and potential dangers in outdoor activities.

      When venturing into wilderness or cold weather environments, it is crucial to be adequately prepared with appropriate clothing and gear. Jared Cannonier's experience in Alaska highlights the importance of wearing layers, having sturdy footwear, and carrying necessary equipment to ensure comfort, safety, and survival. Not being properly prepared can lead to discomfort, loss of essential items, and even potential danger when encountering wildlife such as bears. Additionally, the conversation touches upon the significance of managing wildlife populations to avoid conflicts between humans and animals. Ultimately, it is essential to prioritize preparedness and respect for nature when engaging in outdoor activities to prevent unexpected challenges or risks.

    • Exploring the Power and Instincts of Grizzly and Polar BearsRespect and distance are crucial when encountering bears, as their primal energy and unpredictable nature can quickly turn dangerous. Learn from cautionary tales to understand the true nature of these magnificent predators.

      Grizzly bears and polar bears are incredibly powerful and dangerous predators. Both Jared Cannonier and Joe Rogan share stories of their encounters with bears and emphasize the primal energy and predatory instincts displayed by these animals. They discuss how grizzly bears and polar bears have different hunting behaviors, with polar bears being more relentless and dangerous due to their constant search for food. The conversation also highlights the importance of respecting and staying away from bears, as they can quickly turn from curious to deadly. The mention of the documentary "Grizzly Man" serves as a cautionary tale, emphasizing the consequences of underestimating the true nature of bears.

    • Balancing Bear Population Monitoring and Human Safety in AlaskaWildlife biologists in Alaska carefully monitor bear populations despite misconceptions, occasionally needing to use rifles to ensure human safety. The conversation also explores challenges faced in the wilderness and casual topics like video gaming and raising children.

      Wildlife biologists in Alaska have to carefully monitor bear populations, even though the bears themselves are not in danger. There is a misconception that these bears need protection, which leads people to attach their identities to the cause of preserving these animals. However, occasional incidents occur where bears pose a threat to human life, and in such cases, wildlife biologists may have to use rifles to handle the situation. The conversation also touches on the movie "The Revenant," which is based on a true story, highlighting the challenges and dangers faced in the wilderness. Ultimately, the conversation shifts to casual topics such as video gaming and the experiences of raising children.

    • Stay active and have fun with physical video games like VR games or dance dance revolution for an enjoyable workout.Finding a physical activity that is enjoyable can make exercise more fun and sustainable, especially for maintaining overall fitness.

      Video games, particularly those with physical elements like VR games or dance dance revolution, can provide an enjoyable way to stay active and get a good workout. Traditional methods of working out, like going to the gym, can often be seen as boring, but finding a physical activity that is fun can make exercising much more enjoyable. VR games, in particular, can provide a realistic and immersive experience, giving the feeling of being in a real fight or experiencing punches coming at you. Additionally, the conversation highlights the importance of finding an activity that you genuinely enjoy doing in order to make working out more sustainable and effective in maintaining overall fitness.

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