Jerry O’Connell, Liam Coen’s Introduction To The World, Hot Seat/Cool Throne And Guys On Getting Old
January 29, 2025
TLDR: PFT and Max discuss Super Bowl plans, Liam Coen's unusual NFL debut, Jerry Jones's controversial remarks, Hot Seat/Cool Throne topics including stolen clothes, Josh Harris and Eagles, and fantasy football with guest Jerry O'Connell. The episode concludes with a discussion on aging.

In the latest episode of the Pardon My Take podcast, hosts dive into various topics of interest ranging from NFL playoffs to personal reflections on aging and football culture. Below are the key highlights from the show.
Championship Sunday Recap
The episode kicks off with a recap of Championship Sunday as the hosts transition into Super Bowl mode. Despite the highs and lows of the playoffs, they're ready for the biggest game of the year.
Early Thoughts on the Super Bowl
- PFT and Max share their thoughts on the teams that made it to the Super Bowl, setting the stage for upcoming discussions as the countdown begins.
Liam Coen’s Peculiar NFL Introduction
A significant section of the episode discusses Liam Coen's unusual introduction to the NFL world which led to some interesting and comedic banter about his persona.
Jerry Jones and Glory Holes
- The hosts talk about a specific moment when Jerry Jones repeatedly mentions "glory holes" during a press conference, drawing laughter and confusion. This moment adds a humorous tone to the discussion.
Hot Seat/Cool Throne Segment
In this segment, the hosts reflect on various figures who are either thriving or struggling within the NFL's landscape.
Themes Discussed
- Josh Harris made headlines by stopping the Sixers from posting about the Eagles, which raised eyebrows and generated conversation about sports team dynamics.
- PFT's Stolen Clothes: Reflecting on a recent incident where PFT had his clothes stolen, the segment showcases a lighter, humorous side amidst the chaos of sports news.
Fantasy Football Breakdown with Jerry O’Connell
Jerry O’Connell joins the studio to sort out the fantasy football landscape. The casual ambiance guides a deeper dive into the fantasy implications of NFL player performances.
Key Takeaways
- AJ Brown Trade: Jerry admits to rejecting a pivotal trade of AJ Brown for Joe Mixon, which ultimately impacted the team's success. This candid confession adds a layer of accountability and humor.
- Discussions about possible next season strategies that includes who to draft and who to avoid.
Reflection on Aging
As the episode wraps up, the hosts engage in a heartfelt conversation reflecting on turning 40 and what aging signifies in both sports and life.
Aging Insights
- They emphasize the gradual acceptance of aging and its impact on physical abilities and perspectives on life. At this stage, they share a collective understanding of how their lives and careers are evolving.
Conclusion
The episode seamlessly weaves together lighthearted anecdotes, serious discussions about the NFL, and personal reflections on what it means to grow older while being involved in sports culture. Listeners are left with a sense of connection, humor, and valuable insights into both personal and professional growth within the realm of fantasy sports and beyond.
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We got a super role to look forward to. How's everyone feeling? Sean McDermott still has his job. I don't think he should be fired. Now the dust has been settled. No, I don't think he should be fired, but that has been the discourse. He's a, he's a very, very good coach, but you have to also look at what he's done in the playoffs and how much those, those losses just stay with the man. Yeah. Andy Reed, you know what happened to him? He was fired by the Philadelphia Eagles. He's fired him. Then he went to Kansas City.
And now he's playing against the Eagles in the Super Bowl. Yeah. How are you feeling, PFT? I know obviously Sunday sucked for you. Yeah. I think Monday probably sucked as well. When I woke up on Monday, I felt better. Just from the second I opened my eyes. And I posted a meme about it. And I think it captures the moment perfectly. It's the two guys on the bus meme. Yup.
One is really pissed off doing loom. The other guy's super happy. The guy that's pissed off is losing a close game. The guy that's super happy is getting your ass kicked. Yeah. So getting your ass kicked is better in those situations, I think, than being like, oh, you know, we're one play away.
Oh, yeah, I said it to you right after the game. I was like, you know, I was, I felt bad for you. Like it sucked to watch that. And I was like, the only spin zone is if it were a, a bill's situation or, uh, you know, like a weird call or penalty or like a dropped ball of Mark Andrews. That's those are the ones that will stick in your head for weeks and weeks and weeks. This one.
It's like, yeah, you got your ass kicked. Yeah, I'm still not happy about the result of the game. But, and I'm also not doing the thing where I'm just constantly pointing at, we'll be back. Look, look at this team. That's the worst team Jayden's ever going to have. You never know. Yeah. Weird things happen in the NFL all the time. So, I've also realized, and this is my fault for not realizing before the game, that was the post-lines week.
Yeah. And every team gets their ass kicked close lines. So the Eagles didn't really even beat us. The Lions, we just had delayed onset getting beaten by the Lions. So the Lions technically lost in the divisional round and the conference championship. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I mean, it happened with the Vikings too. Vikings beat the Lions last game of the season, lose to the Rams. No, the Lions beat the Vikings. But they play and then they end up losing afterwards. Yeah. So congratulations to the Lions for beating us. Yeah. Yeah, they actually won that game.
Yeah, but, you know, it's not a good feeling. Next week could be so much more fun if my team was in it. Yeah, I would say so. I'm doing okay. Max?
Yeah, I'm on the Kansas City, but I'm back on being mad at the media because now everyone's just saying, oh, the Eagles now get credit for beating a rookie quarterback. Oh, we said that. Yeah, it sounds like there's another addition to the list. Yeah, no. Oh, yeah. Big time list. Oh, Colin Coward said that that the Eagles might not get in the red zone because the chief's defense is so good. That's mega list. By the way, I've done some. We'll do a full preview next week.
But I've our good friend, Ron. I told him because we were talking about, uh, he was saying like, you know, the chief's defense is really the chief's defense is a little overrated. I'm going to say it right now. I'm going to dig into some numbers for you, but I'm going to say it. That's what I'm talking about. They're they're rush defenses. Not been like incredible in the in the back half. Now the problem is for the chiefs for you and the chiefs is their offense has gotten a lot better.
Like I don't think that I think their defense is is a little worse than people. I think people think their defense is elite. I think their defense is above average. And I think people think that their offense is average. And I think that's also above average. So it's still passed from homes. Does that make sense? It's my early analysis of the game that I haven't fully dug into. But I think their defense is a little bit worse, but their offense is a little bit better.
Max, I think I might be putting you on my list for putting Colin Coward on your list because that's, that's what he wanted to have happen. He said that. So guys like you would be like Colin Coward, let's talk about him. Yeah, you fell for it. Yeah, you fell for it. I don't care. I don't care. Megalist.
I did get tagged in a stat that you got upset about before I even said it. You were like, Oh, you're like, Oh, you're like, Oh, you're like, what are you fucking stats? Your last big stat was that no quarterback. That's not a stat. That was a curse. It was a potential curse. It was a 25 year curse. That's not a stat, dude. That's a curse. You don't believe it. Max, for the record, you do not believe in 25 plus year curses.
I don't know where this. I'm not answering that question because it looks like you're trying to smart man. Yep. All right. Ryan Hannibal did tweet and I got tagged in this Max. It's not my fault that the AWLs tagged me in this. They said something to note ahead of the Super Bowl Eagles defensive coordinator Vic Fangio is face Patrick Holmes eight times six with Denver twice with Miami. His teams are 0 and 8 and Mahomes has thrown to 10 TDs and two interceptions of those games.
Now that was prime of homes. Well, also those Denver and Miami teams didn't have the same personnel that the Eagles do. Denver was pretty good. I mean, it worked. The Eagles defense is very good. But yeah, are you is that stat? Is that a stat worth jumping down my throat? I'm not worried about about trends.
That's a trend. I got a trend, Big Cat. No team that's won exactly 15 games in the regular season has won the Super Bowl since 1985. Whoa. But Max is a care about trends. But it's extra games. I also have a trend every single time that the Eagles have played the Chiefs in the Super Bowl and this podcast that Eagles have lost. Not a trend. Incorrect. Incorrect. We beat them in the regular season last year. Next. I said in the Super Bowl. Correct. I missed that.
I love it. I love that you're on it. That was a little boy assplay game. Oh, yes, Sirionny doing the tunnel thing and then it all fell apart. No, it was Travis Kelsey little boy assplay. Oh, yeah, but wasn't that the game when Sirionny was in the tunnel after? Oh, yeah. How do you like us now? And then we lost every game after. Yep. Next year on a good coach. Have we got any media requests for Max during the week of the Super Bowl?
Zero meters. Oh, come on people. I also say that Max will talk about Villanova basketball for anyone on radio rose well.
and get two guests for the price of one. That was not a weight joke. That was just two teams. I have a question for you because there's a take that is, it's riling people up online. Okay. Do you think that Josh Allen should have thrown to the wide open guy that he had in the flat when he had two defenders from the Kansas City Chiefs in his face? Are you talking about Clue Chiqueur? Yeah, yeah, he was running the little merry-go-round playing the backfield. Yeah, now I didn't play in the NFL.
Uh, it felt like Josh Allen had a guy in his face almost instantly and probably made it hard to do. But, uh, I actually think Ben Solic is as good as job. And I like his, his film analysis. Uh, he, holy shit was at an overreaction for people who missed it. He basically broke down the play and was like Josh Allen had Khalil Shakir open on the backside. But if you watch the play, it's like, it's, he had a chief in his face. Not if you simply flip your hips. Yeah. He got to flip your hips and make the throw up. So maybe he did make the throw.
Yeah, he did make a good, he made it incredible. He made the play app. Yeah, that's the real story is dog. I feel like he's getting left off a little bit too easy just because it's easier to be like Josh Allen can't beat Patrick Holmes. He should have flipped his hips to the left. I personally would have thrown it even deeper. Yeah, touchdown. Yeah, the touchdown was open on that play.
But but so pencil did a film breakdown and then it was almost like it was essentially the Anchorman scene when everyone shows up to the fight and it was just everyone who's ever played in the NFL lineman quarterbacks and then Ryan Leaf showed up and I was like, dude, maybe this isn't cool anymore. He wrote.
Uh, quote, treating Ben Solic. He said, this right here is why in full transparency, you have to post your address with these. Someone needs to put a boot in his ass. You work at ESPN, call Alex, call Dan, call Timmy H. Just call someone before you do this and lose whatever credibility you had. I'm serious though. Someone go rough this kid up, see if he throws the orbit. I love it.
I was like it was it was basically because it was everyone it was you know like and all these people I respect and I think Ben probably did minimize how easy of or how difficult of a throw that was But it's it's also like you're having a discussion about a game like that's that's the whole point of Twitter you talk about the game you break down the game But it was like Ryan Fitzpatrick
Uh, Fitzy was nice to him. Yeah, Fitzy was nice to him. He's like, I love your passion, which is actually the meanest thing you can say, but he was a horrible take. He said it like he was a proper Harvard man that he was. That's Fitzy's version of saying somebody needs to show up at your house and kick your ass. But, uh, the correct take was that the bills didn't slide their protection correctly because Spags was doing one blitz all game and then he re and then he flipped it on them.
Yeah, I think there were two things working against Ben Solak. And yeah, he is good at what he does. But number one, he used the dots. His initial take used the overhead. He used the dots. They use the overhead dots. And the overhead, I don't know who likes watching the dots. It's all the like film nerd people. You don't, you don't
Like football, if you like watching the dots. Yeah. Or maybe you can, but I can't appreciate looking at the dots and understanding how awesome football is. Nobody's hitting each other. There's nothing cool that happens. You get a little animated football that glides across the field. What's your favorite album of all time, Big Cat? Probably... Probably...
Third Eye Blind self-titled. Okay, Third Eye Blinds, if you hadn't heard it before. I was under pressure. I was under pressure. I was gonna maybe go sublime sublime. I was also maybe gonna go. Good choices. The band self-titled fuck.
Okay, let's say. That was hard. Let's say, let's say Prince Purple Rain. Okay. You've never heard it, right? Yeah. Sublime Sublime. Okay, Sublime Sublime. You've never heard the ballad of Johnny Butt. You've never heard Wrong Way. You've never heard Corresse Me Down. I come up to you and I'm like, Big Cat, I think you're going to love this album. And then I hand you the sheet music to the album for you to read. Yeah. That's what looking at the dots is for football. You can't appreciate how sick it actually is. So use the dots. That's strike one. And then strike two.
his profile pick that he had was a bat signal for football jocks. Yeah. To point at him and say, this is everything that's wrong with the film dorks that are sitting at home. They're in their big comfy chairs and they've never had a guy in their face before. Yeah. So I think every film nerd should have to on video, let a guy just
get right in their face. Like have a guy come in their face. Like physically. Like impose their will on them in his face and then show that you can break down film while a guy is in your face. Also just maybe grow a mustache. That helps too. That always helps. The funny thing is Kurt Warner ever heard of him, Superl MVP MVP of the league.
He actually kind of agreed with Ben, not that the, that Shakir was there, but more that it was the discussion should not be like, Oh, where should he have thrown it? It should have been, how did the bills not get the right protection and have a plan for that type of blitz? And again, Hank's right. Josh Allen made the throw. Dalton Kincaid. I mean, it wasn't like a perfect throw. He had to come back for it, but that was in his hands. What do you always say, Hank?
You can touch it. You can catch it. Yeah. You can catch it. I do feel bad for Bill's fans because that's it's how we started the show. You were able to bounce back relatively speaking. Yeah. Because of the ass kicking, Bill's fans are going to spend the next month going over this and going over that play and going over the first down and every. Yeah.
I was lucky enough to get to go home on Sunday and not have to force myself to spend the next 48 hours drawing Photoshop lines onto the screen to show where the ball is, where the first down line is, and then replying to every popular tweet using my Photoshop lines and demonstrating that the NFL was wrong.
But you have to do that for those fans. And again, it comes down to the Chiefs are so well coached and they make big because I was also watching. So is that spags blitz, which was an incredible blitz perfectly timed. And this is what the Chiefs do. They should make big plays. The other one, which I didn't notice obviously in real time, but the Mahomes designed run for the touchdown to go up seven.
It was very cool because they basically ran. They looked exactly like a run going left and all the bills crash left. I think they pulled the guard and then Mahomes just went right. And it's like the I think I think it was Rousseau said they had not run that play all year. The Chiefs had not run that play all year. I think Mahomes had one designed run all year and he's like we watched all the film that never showed up.
That's coaching. That's Andy Reed being like, we're in a game against a team that we know it's going to come down to one possession. We got to we got to throw a few things at him that they've never seen before. And that's what they did. And that's why the Chiefs are in the Super Bowl and my home is going for a three P spins on for Bill's fans. The last time I remember this much breakdown of one fourth down slash first down slash referees getting involved and the spot might be incorrect.
It was the Michigan Ohio State game, right before Michigan went on its win streak against Ohio State. Wow, there's a little bit of bottoming out, but then yeah, but then yeah, but then they were back. Then they were back big time. We also might get a microchip now. Yeah, so the microchip
I love the chain gang. I love the sticks. I love the old guys that they wheel out there on Sundays that get run into on the sidelines. Sometimes that's always fun too. But I like the idea. I love it. If there's a close play, they stop the clock real quick. The chain gang comes out onto the field. There's that moment of anticipation. Then you either get the first down or you don't get the first down. It's like another play that's built in that you get to cheer for.
or be pissed off about. I like the chain gang, but I can see why the microchip crowd can be like, we can measure this better. But again, it comes down to and whatever, throw that plate, throw the throw the refs out of that. It came down to I saw the stat that the chiefs, I think that was the most stuffed runs on a QB keeper on a QB sneak, like in a lot of years, three times they stuffed it.
Why were you running that three times? Especially in a play that by design, you don't know where the ball is. The ref can't tell where the ball is. It's a 50-50 call for the ref, and you're leaving that up to it on a play that you aren't able to get those yards. That's where I said it on Sunday night. Like, go ahead and blame the rest if you want to. That was play calling and coaching and coming up with a strategy to beat the Chiefs that just didn't feel smart. I think if you can't see the ball, then you get the microchip involved. Yeah.
I just like talking about microchips. And I also like whenever someone's like, we were able to do this, but not this. It also can get on the moon, but we can't do a microchip. Those are my favorite arguments. So the microchip would exist in the middle of the ball, right? So how would you know? I thought, and this is maybe my brain is just so scientifically advanced that we haven't caught up to it. I thought they would wrap it in a microchip.
The ball would be made out of microchip kind of and shiny on the outside would be one of those like like the tin foil and then they heat it up and it envelopes it if you tell Andy read that there's a microchip inside the pigskin he's going to try to eat it. Yeah. So be on the lookout for that. But there should be a way if if you can't see the ball.
maybe go to the microchip, but I love the chain gang. It's one of the things about football that's just, it's tradition and you shouldn't try to, don't make the NFL into the NBA. Don't try to evolve the game into something that it's not that we all hate. And the Chiefs made a couple more plays than the Bills made.
Yeah, that's what it came down to. Yeah. Going back to the beginning of the show, if this exact scenario happened to Washington and they were in Buffalo's situation, would you be saying the same thing about the microchip? Oh, no way. That's not how fans were playing. I would be pulling the memes at the NFL front office right now. Yeah. I'd be in New York and... And that happened to the fans. And I would be writing letters to Congress. I would never turn 40 if that happened. Yeah, and I would be writing letters to Congress in self-funding microchip data.
Yeah, I'd go broke trying to get microchip, but I would, but my only rule for getting the microchips in the balls of you, we have to replay that game. Yeah, I would move to Taiwan and start my own semiconductor company. I mean, if that happened, if that, if I were a Bill Smith, I would probably, I'd probably just walk around with a picture of the, of the, of the spot in the ball.
that was beneficial to me. And I would just be, it'd be like showing like you're a picture of your kids or your dog. Like you want to see this? Did you see what happened? Like, years later, I'd be like, did you guys see this? Remember that movie is called The Pride? I would kidnap Roger Goodell and I would tattoo that image onto his body. So we had to look at it every single day.
I clockwork orange him. I'd open up his eyeballs and I'd make him watch the first down over and over and over. Severance, make him apologize into a screen a thousand times. To your future self, Roger. Yeah. But yeah, stop complaining, Bill. Well, no, I'm just kidding. Keep complaining. Keep complaining. Keep complaining. Keep posting the screenshots. Don't give that up. I think it's more. I think Bill's fans keep complaining. I think.
non, like if you don't have a dog in the fight, bills or chiefs, fucking move on and stop saying the NFL's rigged. Again, you pointed out the NFL's rigged just bet everything on the chiefs. That's rigged. If it's rigged, if you're so convinced it's rigged, you should be betting the chiefs on every single year.
I love the people that discover for the first time that the NFL has argued in court that they're an entertainment company, not a sports company. And then that proved that it's 100% rigged, which if you're trying to make a conspiracy out of it, the NFL gives you a lot of stuff to work with. They give you a ton to work with. But I don't think that distinction has anything to do with whether or not one ref saw Josh Allen's shoulder and was like, no, that looks like it's two inches short. We need Taylor Swift in the Super Bowl again.
Uh, there was, there was a lot of takes flying, but I did appreciate, uh, one person saying, uh, I'm going to give you too bad, uh, big cat. I kind of give you a pass because it's your job, but at the same time, it's crystal clear at this point that the sport is corrupt. It would be a big statement for all of Barstool sports to take a stand here and boycott. Boycott the Super Bowl. Boycott, I'll say this a lot of clear. I'm, I'm always going to watch the Super Bowl.
It's the last football game of the year. And anyone who says they're not gonna watch the Super Bowl, you're a fucking liar. You're just a liar. You're gonna watch the Super Bowl. You might not talk about the Super Bowl. You might complain about the Super Bowl. You're gonna fucking sit down on Super Bowl Sunday. They literally named a Sunday after it and you're gonna open your eyes and you're gonna watch that fucking game. You know what? I think we should make a stand. Who was that that said that? Tram 2022. Tram 2022 is right.
As a company, noted Paul Watcher. As a company, Tram, I think that we should all boycott the Pro Bowl games. Okay, we've done this, I think four or five years in a row. Yeah, I'm gonna, but I'm doing it this year for Tram. Yeah, I'm not gonna watch. Okay, I'll stand with you. Are they gonna do the one where they throw for distance to see how far the quarterbacks can throw? I won't watch, I might watch that, but the rest of it, I'm out. I won't watch at least some part of the Pro Bowl games. Okay.
Yeah, that feels right. That feels right. We'll show them. Yeah. Okay, we should talk about some coach introductions. So Liam code. Whoa, that guy's weird.
I kind of like him. I mean, he's I like him in the fact that like I can't look away when he did the Duvall and he did the double eyebrow raise. Yeah. I talked to Jerry O'Connell about that. We were hanging out in the gambling game. He's like so that that Jaguars coach. He's that was AI, right?
Like seriously, he was like, now that we're off the air, can you tell me like that was AI? Yeah. No, it's no, that's, that's him. That's Liam Cone. And it's, it's rare that you see one thing from an introductory press conference and you just know what it's going to be like after every single Jaguar's loss. Yeah. Where that is going to be the only thing that you see on social media. Uh, that's going to be the one thing that sticks in my brain about Liam Cone until I see him do something even weirder.
Yeah, yeah, it's explosives and pieces eyes like there's a lot of things that that if you do the first your first press conference if you say it or your first introduction to the world Dave can Alice's book. Yeah, there's just a lot of things like you And did you guys see the clip? Can you pull it up max of him talking about honesty is the best policy that was very funny?
Yeah. Cause I, I, I said on Sunday, I have, I really don't have a problem with Liam Cohen and how he did it. I mean, he could have handled it better, but I think football is like everyone's got to look out for themselves, but it's just very like insanely unself aware to have an entire 30 seconds talking about how honesty is the best policy after you, uh, lied to the entire bucks organization. Here it is.
That's really what is going to come down to is honesty. I want to surround ourselves with people that are going to be able to tell you hard truths, be able to show you your blind spots, because that's really like I mentioned where growth occurs when you can truly be yourself and be honest with looking in the mirror, knowing that that process to get you there was clean and it was right and the results will speak for themselves.
I kind of love the idea though of the Jaguars having just a swindler as a head coach. Yeah. Just a guy that's actually a snake, a guy that's dirty, like the perfect Florida man. I want him to like go to a pawn shop with Brian Thomas Jr. to try to get 90 bucks for him. Yeah. I want him to get paid in scratch off tickets. I want him to do a video with the jags, the viral jags woman. Yeah. They need to do that. He also dropped an acronym. That's always a no-no in the NFL. I feel like that's just
maybe a college, college acronyms kind of work, but his acronym is fast and it stands for fundamentally sound attacking situational master's tough. Situational master's is a good one. Oh, man. I mean, I, I, my acronym point, I mean, Matt Iberflus had a acronym and it was the hits principle and the T and hits standard for the ball. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that. I remember the wall.
situational masters. That's I want to know what that means. Why could it be situational football? Just get a situational awareness masters because they want to be masters of situations. Fundamentally sound. Yeah, like just be fundamental attacking situational football tough. Yes. Sounds better than situational masters and fundamentally sound.
tough ball then would be s a f t b yeah he pulls out i want to see him explain the the acronym the jaguars posted it and listen
I will, I will say this in defense of the Jaguars. When Dan Campbell did his introductory press conference, people laughed at it. Yep. People said that was crazy. They said he was a meatball. He's an idiot. Like they're not going to win any games. He turns out to be a max. Is he a winning coach? A winning coach? I wasn't paying attention. Dan Campbell winning coach. Yes. Okay. So he turns out to be a winning coach.
So you can't fully base every, it's like one of those every poor press conference doesn't make a bad coach, but every bad coach probably had a poor press. Really bad. I remember when Jim, when Jim Zorn was introduced as the coach of the Redskins, he was promoted from being the offensive coordinator before he ever coached the game as the OC. He was promoted to head coach.
In his introductory press conference, he said, like, I can't wait to represent the maroon in black of the Washington Redskins, which are not the colors of the team. And so from that point on, you just were like, I don't really trust this guy 100%. But with Dan Campbell, yes, he's kind of overcome what a lot of people thought in that first press conference. But the first thing that people bring up, usually with Dan Campbell, is like, yeah, this is a team that'll eat your kneecaps. They still talk about it. He became a positive. Yeah. Yeah, but it was at the time,
It was laughed at, for sure. Okay, this is Liam Cohen's acronym. It takes complimentary football at all three phases to be great. Offense, defense, and special teams. How do we want to play the game? And that's fast. Fundamentally sound, attacking, situational masters, and tough, both mentally and physically.
You see players in the room right here. Guys that I've had conversations with already.
It will always be about you. So he's not the worst speaker. I think it's just that his face was put on incorrectly. He sounds like he's trying to do a presidential campaign. No, he sounds like he's giving a TED talk about coaching a football team. Yeah. That's if you play that back and think about a guy on stage in like a leather jacket with one of those microphones that attaches to his chin. And now listen to him. This is a TED talk. It's also it's also just crazy because
All you had to say was we want our players to play fast. Yeah, you don't have to do an acronym for it. Yeah, that's as good. Passes. Well, the faster you are, the faster you had a position if you're not a situational. That's true. Good point. Do the. Yeah, think about Tetel. It takes complimentary football at all three phases to be great. Offense, defense and special teams. How do we want to play the game?
and that's fast. This guy's looking for funding. This is South by Southwest. They're gonna be like, hey, we're gonna do a presentation on football. Yeah, okay, first we're gonna bring out, Elon's gonna host this panel about football guys. Yeah, well, I mean, listen.
I'll say this it works in the jet for the jags just because it's kind of a hilarious Just visual and everything and he could be a he could end up being a head coach But if you were a bucks fan that was upset Feelings hurt crying being a baby Stephen Che You should watch this and be like we're okay. Yeah, you feel good. Yeah, we're okay, but I hope it works out for the Jaguars Max I have a question for you about the birds Yep
Rumors on the street are that Kellen Moore might be the next coach of the Saints. How do you feel about that? Will the Saints get a coach? I don't know. He interviewed for that a while ago. It is alarming that they haven't hired somebody new yet. I was hoping that Mike McCarle. What? Alarming. Yeah. Oh, did they do? I didn't even know they did a second interview with him.
Yeah, they flew into Philly. Yeah, they went there kind of a thirsty move by the Saints. No, it's I mean, we lose our coordinator. JL and hers has had eight different coordinators since he's since he's been in the league. And I feel like he's only been in the league for like five years. So it's that would suck. But you know, you got to worry about winning right now. That's the only thing that matters.
Are you worried that he's going to be doing interviews instead of getting prepped for the interview? He just did a second interview. No more interviews. He could have been using that time for the Chiefs. Do you think that maybe Sirianni is looking at Kellen Moore doing all these interviews? And he's like, you know what? Maybe I should take a more hands-on approach. Maybe I could call a few players for the Super Bowl.
Uh, no, but anti stat for you, Vangio guy. Vangio. Vangio. You said that's a new, if we get a new, if we need to get a new fan. So yeah, it sounds like a Vic Vangio is actually a great fan name. Last year, dolphins faced my homes. They lost that game, but the Chiefs only scored 14 points and my homes through for 180 yards in that game. Okay. Uh huh. Anti stat. I never said anything about.
The stat. No, you just got anti-stat. No, the stat I said is still correct. That was a clean anti-stat. I know, but, you know, context. I'm adding more context to your stat. Context stat. I was looking up. During that whole Bill's talk, I was looking up, I was looking up anti-stat. So what was one of the other games? So if he didn't throw a touchdown, so that means, so if we just went to seven games, he's 0 and 7, 10 touchdowns, two interceptions.
Uh, no, there's a couple others, but that was the best. That was the most recent one. So that's why I use that one. You just got Vangio. I got Vangio. Yes. You guys get. What were we talking about before this? You guys get turned on by just looking at Vangio. It's great when you give Max anything that he takes offense to because you know that like you can go have a cup of coffee, read the newspaper, take a walk around the block. And then when you come back, he'll be ready to come back at you. Yeah.
There was a clip. I don't be pacing around the room while he's gone. You just say you're like, Max, here's a stat. Like, all right, hold that thought. I'll be back in 30 minutes. And when you come back, he's like, all right, I found it. There was there was another clip that was going. That was like going around Eagles Twitter was like Chris Canty. He'd like got caught in a lie about talking about Jalen Hertz.
and this producer like stepped stepped in in the middle of it and corrected them and like awful announcing was like, wow, one of the craziest things I've ever seen on ESPN, someone's producer coming in and correcting them.
That producer was definitely a bird's fan by the way. I think he was just like, I think he was like, I had jail and hurts top 10 before the year. And his producer was like, yeah, but you also said he was not top 10 during the year. And I was like, this is my guy. Yeah. That's a bird's fan. But the fact that awful announcing was like, I've never seen anything like this. A producer. A producer. No way. Max is bringing Graham going to play in the Super Bowl. He's active. Wow. And what about Cam Jurgens and Landon Dickerson?
Um, Chefter said that they have a real good chance of playing. Oh, good. Okay. Do you like that you were in green? Oh, not you. He's already rattled. Like you're already in Super Bowl mode where you're fighting stats. I just for the podcast, I said, do you like that you were in green and Max looked down at his own shirt? I meant the uniforms in the Super Bowl, dude. Um, yeah, memes brought brought that up. It's, it's okay.
Okay. Yeah, that's not good. Put that on a quote card. It's okay. Maxis thoughts on the Eagles wearing green. It's okay. Yeah. Memes keep saying it's 21 Jump Street, 22 Jump Street, meaning it's the same movie. Oh, no. And I just keep saying it's Rocky one, Rocky two. Mm hmm. All right. But I don't know about, I don't think I don't think they were the same stuff, the same, the same trunks in both of those movies. I don't think that. But you guys are going the same trunks.
You're wearing what? We are wearing the same trunks. I don't think in Rocky one, Rocky two, they're wearing the same trunks. Yeah, they're wearing green that they wore, the same green they wore in the last suit roll, correct? I believe that was. Yeah, it's the same exact same exact uniform match up. Okay.
other coach hiring for news. The Cowboys brought in Brian Schottenheimer for his press conference. We also had Jerry Jones talk more about glory holes. He said there's a very low percentage of this that is smiles and glory holes, very low percentage talking about just the business. They clarified himself when he repeated very low. Very low of the glory holes. This is the second time that Jerry Jones has brought up glory holes, maybe even third.
Uh, I think he believes that a glory hole is a Super Bowl window to him. It's the same thing. Yeah. So when he's like, I want to get back to the glory hole days. I want me some glory hole in his eyes. He's talking about being a championship team, but you don't make that mistake unless you're a man that has used a glory hole or two. Okay. Let me see. You might also just be talking about an oil.
Yeah, he could be it. So I'm looking at when Wikipedia says a glory hole is a hole in a wall or partition often between public laboratory cubicles or sex video arcade booths and lounges for people to engage in sexual activity or to observe the person on the opposite side. They're associated with gay male culture and anal or oral sex. Trying to find if there's any, no, the glory holes go back all the way to 1707. Yeah.
the trials of Thomas Vaughn and Thomas Davis, the two Tom's going at it in the glory. Is there a peeping Tom came from? Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. So is it anything? Let's see, popular culture now. So yeah, is it, is it an oil? Well, well, in his mind, it might be like that is a glory. Oh, yeah, holehunter.com. I'm not going to click on that one.
You just go up, you stick your deck in a hole. Yeah, miners would use it. Some glory hole for a spot in the ground that would yield an exponential amount of gold oil or whatever natural resource you look. There we go. That's it. That's what he's talking about. He's talking about oil, guys. No one has told him that glory hole means anything else. He's talking about when a man gets really oiled up.
Yeah. Also, Stephen Jones is getting kind of lambasted because he would did a press conference. Well, he's basically morphing perfectly into Jerry Jones. He's going to be the perfect Jones heir to have the Cowboys not have any success as well. But he was talking about the drought, the 30 year drought, Super Bowl and championship game drought. And he did air quotes.
Yeah, it's just quotes. It's just like you guys. Dude, it is a drought. The media has been obsessed with this so-called alleged drought where we haven't allegedly won any Super Bowls. Right. But the drought. But it's one of those, it's a bad stat. It's a misleading stat.
We've won several off seasons. The funniest part of this press conference to me was when they introduced Brian Schottenheimer and the whole crowd clapped for him. It was very nice, very positive. And then the loudspeaker introduced Stephen Jones, the executive vice president and nobody clapped at all. And then one guy started clapping and then three other guys kind of clapped and they pretend to laugh. Oh, you know, they're just busting my balls. They really love me up here. That's nice. Yeah. The Cowboys are a fun watch of just, I mean,
It's just so funny that they just didn't go to a coach search.
Well, they did. And they, when they talked to Pete Carroll, he called Pete Carroll to get his opinion on Brian Schottheimer as a coach. And then they said, we also briefly talked about the possibility that he could coach, but it was just, it was a fact-finding call. Yeah. So, Pete Carroll was probably very confused about that. He's like, what is going on here? Am I applying or no? Yeah, probably not. Yeah. So, uh, all right, do we have anything else before we do Hot Seat Cool Throw? We're just not going to talk about the fact that Cardi B has pierced for Buckcrack. No.
I mean, no, I didn't know that happened. Yes, I want to talk about it. Yeah, she announced that on X.com, the everything app yesterday. So dot dot dot. I got my butt crack pierced. Okay. Your thoughts. How? How? Well, then she said, do I lie and post a picture of it right here? So she got the top of it. Oh, I see how. But that's actually, it's actually cute. I think it's cute. Wiping has got to be tough. Yeah. Yeah. She's got to front to back. Like,
I didn't want to think about this with Cardi B, but here I am. It does. Okay. All right. So she got her butt crack. You should have just done so I did a thing then. Yeah. Some personal news and there's a picture of her asshole. Not Rushmore punishment. But crack piercing. I'm in. Just think about it.
Do you say stink about it? Stink about it. We also just had a crazy college basketball Monday night with the Duke player puking, which is nuts. I've never seen that much puking on a basketball court. Yeah. And there's so many towels and then Caleb Love, who is
Not good at basketball, but then hit a 60 footer to be good at pass. He was one for 11 from three and then hit a 60 footer to go to overtime and win the game. He's got those games. Yeah, he's, yeah. What was the, it was like he puked and then a fan passed out. What's going on in Cameron from seeing the puke? I don't know.
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Well, yeah, he's been trying to force his way out. Yeah. And they've just been playing hard ball, but it sounds like the heat Pat Riley, you know, he had the bigger dick. He ended up on top sixers.
Shouldn't the guy with a bigger dick end up on bottom? On top? On top? That's painful. Sixers? There is a rumor out there. Oh, no. I don't want him. I mean, he's old and he's proven himself time and time again to just be an absolute locker room cancer. Can't even win. One, one Eastern Conference Finals. Two.
I think the older is the bigger part of the equation. I think the older piece is the bigger part of the equation. I think that Jimmy Butler and his prime, you would love to have him on your team if you're the Sixers. Can you imagine if you got a prime Jimmy Butler on that team, you'd never let him go.
True. Kevin Love also has been just putting on a meme clinic throughout this entire process. I don't know what, like he just switched the flip and was like, fuck it, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna get my way out through memes. Yeah, I love it. Very, very funny. What about, what about Phoenix? Is that still in the equation? Phoenix is the favorite right now to land on. Oh my God. But Bradley Beale has no trade clause. And although like, yes, you have no trade clause. You negotiate that for a reason. But come on, Bradley Beale.
Is there any like if you're a GM or your KD or your Devin Booker, is there any party that's like, hey, instead of trying to get Bradley Beale or Jimmy Butler, why don't we get like five really good players that can be around us and we can be the guys. It's so weird to me whenever it's like, what's this? What's the problem with our team? Let's add another alpha that needs the ball.
I also love that Matt Espio last year was like, I need to examine what went wrong with this team and figure it out as an owner so that we can move forward. And now he's trying to do the same thing. Yeah. Just had another name that we all know. It's they're basically doing the strategy that I do every year with fantasy football where it's like, uh, yeah, Tony Gonzalez. I dropped to Tony Gonzalez like seven years after he was good. That guy was awesome. Yeah. I see his name. The Warriors or the other team.
Where is there a mess? I mean, a mess in that they are not going to probably make the playoffs. And I don't know what like, Steph is, let Steph be free. I probably doesn't want to. Maybe he's supposed to be one Jersey guy, but I would like to see Steph in another big playoff series before he has, he retires. It does feel like this is the end of that era. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Like officially, can you imagine JBut on that team would like trying to get along with Draymond Green? No, no. And I don't even think like,
This is why this revisionist history just fucking just re-signed Clay and just gotten like, you have to pick a lane like just maybe just get old together. Yeah. And just be like, all right, it was fun, but everyone got to stay together.
I don't know. I mean, it's not working. Yeah, but they knew we're going to have to pay so much. No, I know. I just feel like if you know you're not going to win again, just go nostalgia. Yeah, it's not. But any chance of winning again, not paying. Yeah, no, I agree. It was a dumb thought. I just think of this. I don't know what you're saying. Yeah.
which is if the team's not competitive, you might as well just kind of keep everybody around and together. And then let them all maybe one day they'll retire at the same time. Or maybe they win one series again, like as 37 year olds, you're like, Oh, that was cool. Yeah. It's a dumb thought. I understand it's a dumb thought really stupid. I mean, a dumb ownership ship group would certainly do something like that. Yeah. But a smart ownership group would not correct.
Okay. Cool throw. I mean, this is where it's like, I think I say this every time, but then I'm saying it right now. I'm talking about it, bringing up on the show. So I have, you know,
I don't know where this is going. A phone in the trap again. This is going. Phone of the trap again. Are you going to talk about the goonerside again? Nope. I never talked about that once. My cool throne is the Paul brothers. Yeah. That's a good one. And yes, you're everything you kind of said. I don't really. Didn't really fully go through. But yes, I agree.
But I know what you were saying and I agree. I don't think it was I should have said it first the Paul brothers in the cool throne I say this every time Yes, I don't want to watch it on I know it's gonna be rigged. It's gonna be bullshit people are gonna walk away disappointed Yet here I am correct talking about it again, and I probably will I definitely will watch and we already I already have max the streaming app right yeah, so it's no additional money
I do have multiple maxes. I mean, make the, I fell for it again award, although it's a guy wearing a Celtics hat and all the, all the medals on his chest are for tuning in to Jake Paul fights. Yeah, they need, they need to be like a knockout. Like the person needs to be like $5, $5. If either one gets a knockout, a hundred million. Yeah. Yeah. Agreed. Who do you got? Jake.
Logan's bigger. No Jake's bigger. I thought Logan was taller, but Jake's beefier.
It's Jake. Is it boxing? Jake is the better box. Jake has been training boxing more consistently. Logan's on the wrestling. He's and he's done like the faker. I mean, we're talking about this. Right. Is it but is it is a boxing match? Or is it MMA? What is it? It's boxing. It also might all be a it's all it's all might be a work. Yeah. Because like the wording of it is kind of weird. Yes. Logan is. Yeah. Imagine they come out and just play rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Logan is six, two, two, five and Jake is six, one, two, twenty seven.
Alright, yeah, so Jake. And they have the same exact reach. So Jake. Also, this time of year, have your alert your intent up high because anything that you see that stirs your interest, pretty good chance it's a Super Bowl commercial.
Yup, very good point. This one has a date, but March 27th. Yeah, still. But still. All right. OK, good job, Hank. Good job, Hank. My hot seat is saying it with your chest. So I was watching Good Morning Football yesterday, our good friend Peter Schrager on that show. Love Peter, Kyle Brant, friend of the program. We like Kyle Brant.
He went on a little rant about the chiefs and the bills and the reaction to the game and how there are all these people out there saying everybody wanted the bills to do it for America. But let's not turn this into the chiefs or some evil empire out there. That is easy to root for and it's us against them and we don't want them to win no matter what.
Kyle Brand also on Sunday put out a hype video for the game. I saw that, yeah. Where he was literally rocky as a Bills fan. Yeah.
and Drago from Rocky IV were the chiefs. The evil empire was literally the USSR. Where was Drago from? Russia. He was from Russia. Yeah, USSR. And so he turned the, now he's saying like, don't act like you got a route against the chiefs and they're literally an evil empire. And you got to take down big red.
You just did that. Yeah. You just did that, Kyle. Yeah, you made the hype video. This is very well done video. And I understand that Kyle, he's not technically a Bills fan. He's like a... Yeah, yeah. You know, he's a hype guy for the Bills. Yeah. But still, you were actually doing that thing. Yeah, you were rooting for the Bills. And also, let people root against the Chiefs if they want to.
I couldn't agree more. And I also, like, I don't care if you want to say I'm rooting for greatness. Like, if you're not a Chiefs fan, you're like, I'm rooting for graces. I respect greatness. That's cool by me. If you're just like, I hate the Chiefs, I fucking hate them. It's rigged. I don't like them. I hate Patrick Holmes. That's cool by me too. Everyone should just be fine with however anyone wants to root. Yeah, if you want to root against the Chiefs because you think they are Satan,
Do it, do it, please. And Cheatsands don't get offended either. You're winning. You shouldn't worry what other people think about your team when you're winning. I think Kyle tried to do the neat little pivot from Bill's super fan to, hey, Chiefs, I love you guys. Yeah. And that's a hard move to pull off. Yeah, no, I mean, the Chiefs discourse, if you hate the Chiefs, you just hate the Chiefs. Not to be fair, maybe it was a bit because I was listening to it. I wasn't watching, maybe they were playing in the background, the rock montage that he did.
That, that would be a bit. Yep. In which case, hand up, I got it wrong. But if it's not, then now I feel like it's a different kind of bit. Yeah. I'll put my hand right up right now. I'm not cashing out of my future with the Eagles. I will be rooting against the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. But I also respect these greatness. But I'm, I'm telling you right now I'm rooting against the Chiefs.
I respect greatness, unlike Big Cat. Are you going to be rooting for the Chiefs? I think I have to. I mean, if I didn't have this future, I would be betting the Chiefs. I never wanted to root for the Eagles in that first Super Bowl. Big Cat had literally $200,000. Yeah, that was a big one. I didn't want to be sitting next to him rooting for him to lose $200,000. I appreciate that. So I bet eight grand on him, lost that, lost the joint bet to Hank. I was getting rods from all angles again that week.
Just bet my hopes. I did it last year. Like the viewers fans obviously are like you always root against us. I bet on the Chiefs against Texans. I bet on the Chiefs a very big bet against them in the 49 in the Super Bowl last year. Remember we're sitting in the game. Yeah. I think it was you, Dave, a couple other people were on the 49ers and I was just sitting there like.
I got my homes. This is going to be easy. They're going to win. I might have to go back to the no-donks well. Get my revenge on that. What I would say if I didn't. 50 grand on no-donks at minus 500. What does that pay out? Probably a lot. Elliot's been so shaky.
Yeah, Elliot has been shaking. You were gasin' at Elliot up last week. I know, because Coach Green told my hat, too. PFT, I'll say this, if I weren't, yeah, if I didn't have this Eagles future, I'd probably just run back what I did last year because it was a very calming, super-roll watch of being like, oh, but my home's. Yeah, he's got me. Like, we're just sitting there watching, but yeah, but my home's gonna, he'll be fine. You know what? He'll figure it out. It's gonna be in the fourth quarter, and you'll be like, oh yeah, one team has my homes. NFL rigged, I think I'm just gonna go with the rigged.
Yeah, do it. Why not? It's a decent watch betting on Undertaker at WrestleMania. Yeah, I'm one and one in the last two chief Super Bowls. But wait, Undertaker lost at WrestleMania in New Orleans. Yes, I was there. I was there. I was there. That's good for you. That's good for you, Max. That's great stat. That's great stat. That's great stat. Okay, was he in your cool throne? My cool throne is some random burglar in Chicago.
This is also a fire fest, but I'm getting to it ahead of time. So I get home on Sunday night. I sit my laundry out this weekend because I ran out of clothes, I had jumpsuits, I had to watch, et cetera, et cetera, two giant, giant duffel bags of clothes. I get home. They had dropped it off on my porch.
Somebody stole all my clothes. Imagine being that burglar and opening it up and being like, what the fuck? Yeah, not to brag, but I think I have a pretty talkies medium jumpsuit.
Some burglar went up to my house. They probably were thinking, I'm going to get some good clothes. They stole these two huge fucking bags of clothes, got them in their car. They're driving away like I made out like a bandit. Let's open this up. There's probably going to be Gucci in there. There's going to be Dolce and Kibana. They unzip it and they see six different Darius Rucker themed Washington commander shirts.
It's basically like robbing a bank and having the ink blow up. The ink blew up on all the jumpsuits that you had. They actually did you a favor if it was a lot of jumpsuits, just clean out for jumpsuits. There were a few jumpsuits in there, but it was pretty much my entire wardrobe was stolen.
So now I don't really have any clothes. I went out, I bought a bunch of socks. We could just, there's a loss in front of my kid's school. Yeah, I could get you a new workout tomorrow. You had any propeller beanies I can put on? Elementary school. But now I'm looking at this and I'm thinking this could be, this could be a good opportunity. I'm turning 40. Don't change. Could be time to start dressing like an adult. I'll be so mad at you if you change. You have a style. I was thinking about maybe getting some of the TikTok girls to give me fashion makeover.
I think you should dress like high like luxury like Joe burrow like I turn into Joe burrow now. I can be down with that. I don't want you to scum to just absolute like. Yeah. Yeah. I want you to be like I dress plain Hank dress dress plain. You got to be the one max memes. We all fucking wear the same hoodies. We need the guy who comes in and is like, Hey, you guys see this jumpsuit? It's got croissants all over it.
This to me feels like a great opportunity, though, to turn a page. It's like the universe telling me maybe it's time to stop wearing F-15 onesies. No.
But I would be supportive if you wanted to do like a full like ass-less suit. Yeah, like turn it to super, super fashion. Did they have it? Was the one jumpsuit that you looked like a bunny rabbit? Was that in there? It was. Yeah, they stole my phone. That was Chris's story. That's what I was really hoping is just right on top. The first thing you see. That's what's made me not be that pissed off about it. It sucks to lose all your clothes, obviously, but
I can get over it. They can return it. Well, the first thing I did when I saw that the bag was gone, I drove around my neighborhood anticipating that they opened it up, saw what was in there, and just threw it out their window. Yeah, you're like, fuck this. That's so funny. So yeah, maybe I'll just do the fact. I think I might try the fashion makeover. That's so funny. Yeah.
Man, I would love to get it. Listen, if you're an AWL and you're listening this and you just robbed a bunch of jumpsuits and commander's gear, no penalty. No, no crime will be committed. We would just like to interview you and get your honest reaction for when you opened up that bag. Maybe just return it so we know it's you with like a long note. Yeah, just saying like, I want to open this bag. I was disgusted.
And I made me change my whole life and realize I need to get on the street in narrow. Yeah, maybe they learned a lesson crime doesn't pay. That's so funny. All right, my hot seats. I got two. One is Jela Milro and hand sizes being back because Jela Milro has insanely small hands. Where are they?
eight inches, eight and three fourths inches to put it into perspective. It would be the smallest hands of any first round quarterback ever taken. And in 2022, only one starting NFL QB had a hand size under nine inches, it nine inches and it was Taysom Hill.
Yeah, not good, especially because Jalen and Milro also does things like throw interceptions and not throw to the open guys. Yeah. Not be able to throw. That's a very small hand. I would say that everybody on this podcast has a bigger hand than that. Yeah.
Yeah. No, thanks, got tiny hands. Yeah, little hands, little guy. I don't know. I have big hands. Um, oh, actually I have three hot seats. What? But do you see when, like when Josh Allen fumbled up all his fingers, just picked it up off the ground, just palmed it. I was a pig snack. Like, yeah, like a vacuum cleaner. There's a snarf. Hands mean something. Yeah.
Actually, I'll switch one to a cool tour. So my other hot seat is Archie Miller Archie Miller head coach of the University of Rhode Island Andre the Giant. Did you guys see Archie Miller's press conference now? I have to defend Archie Miller in the fact that I also get got a lot but Archie Miller was doing a press conference after a game talking about What's the toughest league in in the? Country you want to play the press conference? Here you go. Here was his quote the day like you know the SEC is the best league in a country, but
You know, in all games, they're like 54 and 54. Somebody said that. I don't know if that's even accurate, but like, do you know how hard it is in every league, you know, to win? You know, it's just hard to win any game. So the problem with that is Archie Miller is quoting. I kind of find the guy's account. I apologize to him. I'll shout him out. Does he have it there?
Uh, shout out that guy. He tweeted, uh, something that was, it was basically joking. He was just saying, Oh, the SEC is supposed to be the best league in the country. Well, why are they 54 and 54 since January 4th? Obviously a joke because it's all conference play. And then our trailer went and took that stat and, uh, used it in a press conference.
Yeah, because there are some bad teams that are at the bottom. And when you lose to a good team, the good team gets a win, but you get a loss. Just very funny, but I saw somewhere it's 54 and 54. And so that's crazy. Yeah, the NFL was 500 this year. Yeah, as a league, the league is down. It's not getting done. Anyone who says the league is down. There it is. Yeah.
Technically, how many games kids is it always finish? Oh, no, no, I'm stupid. Yeah, I was like, oh, yeah, but the Supals stand a little game. Yeah, I'm a moron I just aren't you milling myself, but yeah, shout out the guy who I guess you could say like got him got one conference ends up with a slightly better record
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That will always. Wasn't that the Stephen Shay thing? He did a prediction for the whole league. No, but he did it wrong off by like 10. Yeah, because his predictions weren't game by game. They were just, I think that this team is going to win their division with 13 wins. This team's going to have 10. This team's going to have 10. This team's going to have nine. Nobody did the whole like data thing. Yeah. And but that's impossible. I went game by game, but it wasn't. It was impossible. Oh, I found the treat. Jacob Pickle.
Great. Jacob Pickle. Shadow Jacob Pickle. He said, wow, the best conference of the history of college basketball is 54 and 54 since January 4th. ESPN once again showing their SEC bias for some teams that can't even get above 500. That's great. And then Archie Miller went and used it. Good job. Jacob Pickle. Shadow Pickle. Oh, seven.
Also great username there. My cool throne. I have two. One is our guy tailgate Ted. So he actually hit us up PFT and was like, thank you guys for the shout out. And he has a if you go online, he has he's trying to raise money for lung cancer against researcher. Yeah, research. So shout out tailgate Ted. If you can donate to the GoFundMe feels like he's
He's handled it all very well. Like he was obviously made fun of on the internet a little bit, lost a big game. He's turning it all into a positive. Seems like a genuinely good dude. And you always have the hard rock. The hard rock. When all else fails like Pablo Escobar going back to Medellin, put your picture up on the wall of the hard rock.
Ted will just get back to hard rock and he'll just be around his people. He does seem like a good guy. He also needs to realize that in this moment where he's become an internet flashpoint, there are going to be a lot of Eagles fans that will then respond to anything that you say. Yeah, he's like, I don't know why I'm still getting trolled for it. Yeah, no, it's gonna be a while future statements. It's gonna it's gonna last for a little bit.
Yeah, so so everyone is is Twitter username is tailgate Ted. He's got the links there. So shout shout him and then my cool drone is Max and the Philadelphia 76ers For not posting about the Eagles. Should we talk about that? I didn't know to put that in a hot seat your quilt run. That makes sense Josh Harris. Well, not not really
Not really. Every other team in Philadelphia posted about that post about the game. The Sixers went radio science. Kind of a kind of a salty move by Josh Harris. Like the Sixers are Philadelphia. You have to separate those two and also what would be Philadelphia on the Sixers or does Josh Harris? Well, I mean the people.
I mean, the people kind of there's another thing. It's their team. Jeffrey Laurie wants to buy once to buy the Celtics. Yeah, I want to buy this. But what, but Hank, what would it hurt Josh Harris for the Sixers to just be like, good job Eagles on their Twitter account? That's one of those moves. Like you just have to just ignore it because if you don't, it's a Streisand effect. You're not going to, they don't post it. And then everyone's like, you're a salty, petty bitch.
Maybe he is. He probably is, which I'm fine with that, but just, dude, who cares? Should I fucking let him post? If they had posted it, we would also talk about that on the show.
I don't think so. No way. I don't think anyone notices those posts. Max would definitely be like, your owner just congratulated the birds. There's no way I would have noticed. Yeah, you would. Yeah, you would. The only reason is because people were going to all of every other team in Philly posted about it. The Water Dogs posted it. Shout out to Water Dogs. Shout out to Water Dogs.
Yeah, you're an owner of the water dogs. Wow. How about that? That is true. That is true. A bigger man than Josh Harris. Way to go, Max. That's how you fight back. I didn't even think about that when I said that, but yep. I decided to put my business relationships aside and acknowledge the local team. I'm just more like, there's no way a Twitter post would bother you from the team you own. It's Josh Harris even on Twitter.
No, I don't think so. A lot of people are saying, Philly has not been happy with Josh Harris recently. They point at what's happening with the commanders, and they say, he doesn't care about the Sixers, all this stuff. It feels like that's not... Well, the Sixers suck, although the Sixers did just beat the Cavs. It is crazy to, like, when you own multiple teams, I feel like you just put yourself in that spot all the time, where if one of them's not good, everyone's like, why aren't you making that team good? Yeah, because they're like, we're not your priority anymore. I just... There's no way...
He by not posting it. You're just like, Oh, he's bothered. Yeah. That's the my only point. Yeah. The commanders are to Josh Harris. That's Barron. The Sixers are like Eric. And then the devils are like Don Jr. If you want to put it in Trump terms. Yeah. Yeah. You got that?
Sure. I don't know. I don't understand what- Also, I only found out about this because Max came up to me. He was like, she just rehearsed in posters? Yeah. Well, yeah, I was mad. Yeah. So you actually care about like, now I'm back on PFTs side. Because like, you can't actually be like, why the fuck having the Sixers post? Well, I think- Well, no, no, no. I didn't know about it until other people were talking about it.
And then although realistically, I think it's probably like the social media manager who was like, I'm just not going to post about this because I don't know if my boss. Yeah, there's a very good chance that this never got to Josh Harris's death. I assume that's probably what it was. Yeah, I don't want my boss mad at me. Correct.
Yeah and honestly like fair play to both sides because if he had posted that from the Sixers then I would have been like what the fuck dude like his fans in DC would be mad or his fans in Philly would be mad if he doesn't post it. You know what he should have done is he should have just posted from the Sixers account good season commanders just ran into a better team.
like compliment the commanders and be like, but the sex, the Eagles are better team. Like this shit happens. That's what sports are. Are the NFC East once again, representing the NFC in the Super Bowl. Congrats. NFC beast.
Yep. NFC Beast, NFC Beast. Did they have not, cause usually teams will get bullied into this. They have not updated it. Do you think they'll post anything for the Super Bowl? They got it, right? If they win? Yeah. Yeah. They got you. Also, the real, if they lose and they post something, they'll be very funny. Yeah. Now that would be funny. Yeah. They're like, oh, so close. Great season, guys. Nothing to be ashamed of. So close. Basically like you didn't win a playoff game. Yeah. If you don't win the whole thing.
All right, let's get to, uh, I guess it falls on our shoulders now. Let's get to JOC. We got our, uh, exit interview with him about the fantasy football season and what our strategy is going forward. Before we do that, we got a couple of ads. Before we get to Jerry O'Connell, our great friend. He's brought to you by maybe even our better friend, Mountain Dew Baja Blast.
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And now here's Jerry O'Connell. Okay, we now welcome on one of our very, very dear friends. He's a very, very, very, very, very, very special guest. All right. It is Jerry O'Connell in studio. Yeah. There's no one that's more committed to us than Jerry O'Connell. When I texted him, I was like, hey, we want to have a recap of the fantasy season, football season, everything.
He just said, okay, what day works? And I was expecting to be Zoom. And he's like, all right, I'm gonna land in Chicago at 7 a.m. Then I'm gonna fly back out at three o'clock. That's what you do for us. Yeah. You came in, you have the briefcase. Oh yeah. What was the flight schedule today?
Flight schedule was, I flew out last night at 11 p.m., landed five-something, went to, it's great, they're a partner, went to Planet Fitness. You should just come here to our new gym. I should have, yeah. We have a Planet Fitness right here. Yeah, I would have come here, it's just like Hank is all oiled up and stuff and waiting on the squat rack.
And you got to go in the locker room with him. And he's like, you want to do a steam? And you're like, no, man. Yeah. And he's like watching you. And then I didn't bring shower shoes. There's no way I'm going in that shower barefoot. Yeah. Yeah. So I just went to my PF, man. You went to your PF. Yeah. And then you went and got a breakfast. Yeah, I got a breakfast here in the corner. And then when do you fly back? I fly back today at 3 p.m. There it is.
My daughters have volleyball practice tonight, and I've got to go watch them not start and not play well, and act like I'm involved. No, that's a nice quick John out here. Did you stop at any apartments that you've been looking at? Because Jerry always sends us apartments usually on Chicago's Gold Coast. He's like, hey, look what you can buy here. It's so funny. My algorithm is so crazy. By the way,
Shout out to all the algorithms out there. They've really got it figured out. I agree with the algorithms. Red Note. My algorithm is... Well, I mean, first and foremost, it's usually like...
Big tits. I've actually, I don't know if you do this, but I, cause the algorithm always works. And if you click on it, if you, if you watch the video, they'll give you more of that. So I always make sure that I watch the big tits. So now it's pretty much only big tits. Yeah. It is just, it is a little, it gets a little awkward because I have, you know, two teenage kids and a wife. And if you say anything like, Oh, hey, look at this text that's so and so sent and it's Instagram.
that usually comes up and I'm always like, whoa, what is this? I'm not following them, what is this?
Shout out to Elgar Zuckerberg. But it's that. A lot of it lately has been Josh Allen crossing an imaginary first down line on that fourth down play. I don't know if it heard me talking about it. It's in my thoughts. I mean, I actually haven't been talking to anybody about it. I've just been thinking about it a lot because
I live at home of my wife and daughters, and I'm the only one who watches football, so I have no one to talk to about it, so I haven't even been saying anything out loud. It's been feeding me that. Finally, what it gives me is moderately priced apartments here in the Chicago area. They are great deals. I must have clicked on one and sent it to you guys.
It's my thing. Oh, also I have other algorithms like I have a giant's friend. And anytime there's a giant's meme or anything, you know, a lot of stuff with Daniel Jones wearing his helmet on backwards. I don't know if you saw that one or something. Like I said, I have a few jets friends that I send jets means to and I mean, we should talk more and I could send you some commander's memes and some bear's memes. Yeah, that'd be great. You send you have free reign to send any tax.
You know, it's funny. I do. I don't send you guys many sports memes because I'm sure by the time I've seen it, it's been sent to you one million times. So I try not to waste your time. I do have a texting relationship with both of you and I don't try to abuse it.
I try to send you interesting things and you also have a texting relationship now with Max memes and pug. Yeah, the whole you basically asked for all the numbers and you've been texting with it I almost just threw you into the part of my take group tech. No, no, I have a question. Then we would turn to green. We'd be talking about what dinners we're going to get a lot and you'd be jealous.
Wasn't it so fun being your fantasy manager this year and finally getting into that group text and being the only green bubble just a fuck with them. Yeah, I think it was a 15 person group chat I tossed Jerry in it immediately turned to the green bubble and everybody was like who the fuck is this and Jerry just immediately became an agent of chaos and started
I started sending shirtless pictures to the chat. You took it upon yourself to organize the draft order by taking names out of hat while shirtless. Well, we were a week away from our draft and we still did not have a draft order. So I made a video of myself.
doing the draft order. And if you recall, there was a controversy as they say in England, a controversy where we got the first pick. And everyone said, I cheated. And I was actually upset that we got the first pick because you got to take Christian McCaffery and thank goodness. Thank goodness they just went to some random pickinator to redo the draft because we would have been fucked
Hard, yeah. It started with a bang. I thought people didn't really appreciate Jerry from the get-go. But then after like one, two, three months, they grew to love Jerry. And now Jerry is like the unofficial mascot of that fantasy league, which it goes to show if you keep Jerry around long enough, you're going to end up loving him. Yeah.
Guys, I feel like I'm almost like the Mark Andrews of our league. I really dropped the ball for you guys. I lost by, for those who don't know, I posted a few times on X. We lost in the game that would have taken us to the championship by 0.10 points, 0.10. And that's on the manager.
You know it is on me. I got to tell you, hand up, I take full responsibility. I never admitted this to you and I'm going to say it now. At the trade deadline, we were offered a straight up trade. Max, you listening? Max, I'm listening.
We were offered a trade straight up, AJ Brown, we had Joe Mixon, and I turned it down. And that is why we lost. I don't know if you recall, but those last few weeks, Joe Mixon just shit the bed. He had single digit scoring weeks, week after week after week, and you have to start Joe Mixon.
You know, I'm not defending myself here, but in my defense, you know, AJ Brown at this time was throwing helmets on sidelines. He was reading self-help books in between plays.
I just thought the Eagles were gonna eagle, and I didn't want any part of that. And that was my mistake, and I wanna apologize to your faces. Okay, I appreciate it. I feel accepted a little bit. Because I gotta tell you, that, sorry, what were you gonna say? I feel a little bit like John Mera, whereas I'm gonna kill myself if AJ Brown beats us. Yeah, I'm doing this right now. Is it fair to say, Jerry, you're not on the hot seat.
But people are asking if you're on the hot seat. I think, yeah, I don't even think it's a hot seat. I think people are saying maybe he needs like, you know, when a coach in Nathaniel Hackett, when he was at the Broncos, he had to bring in a clock manager. Do we need to bring in maybe someone who's won championships before to be like a senior analyst that can at least, you can talk things through with them when you're worried about a trade or a starter or sit, just
Just an old head that maybe has been through the wars that can give you some advice. That's just been thrown out there. Yeah, not anybody that's above you. Right. But just somebody that you can ask questions. Well, that person, if we brought in that person, they would technically report directly to us. Right. And Jerry would have to report to them. But again, not above you.
I would like to remain calling all the plays. Okay. I feel that responsibility should be mine. I'm a coach of men. Wait, what is the leader of men? I'm a leader of men. And I think I can handle it. I just want to say for the record, two years ago, we made it to the finals and we lost. And this year we came in third.
I mean, it's a lot of nothing. I mean, like Josh Allen just just defended his coach. Yeah, I know. But questions are happening with Sean McDermott. It's like, have you has Sean McDermott been the same coach ever since tomorrow? Have you been the same fantasy manager since tomorrow? I want to say for those who don't recall, we went to the championship the week that Demar Hamlin
Say it. Almost died. Prayers for tomorrow. Prayers for tomorrow. Prayers for tomorrow. Went down and we were losing by just a few points and we had to negotiate to have our quarterbacks be a part of our total score the next week and we lost. Look, you know what?
I realize that my job is on the line here. No, no, no. Listen, we didn't want this to be an accusatory. It's not an intervention. We just have had internal discussions about the framework of our organization. When we lose in the playoffs,
we have to look in the mirror and say, what can we do better? The process, is the process what we want it to be? Because the standard that we have as an organization, it couldn't be hired. Anything less than championship, we don't want, we don't think about that. Our goal is to win championships here. And I'll speak on behalf of Big Cat, we're giving you a vote of confidence. You're a manager. You are a manager. You're a manager whether we
at a general manager. Who knows? But what would you say the standard is? The standard is I know already already fucked it up. What is the standard, Jerry? Championship. No, Jerry. What is the standard? The standard. What is it?
What is the standard? The standard is winning. No, you're so close. Your standard is defeat is impossible. Just repeat it. The standard is the standard. There it is. Got it. All right. That's our guide.
I don't like how long it took to get there. I don't know how long it took to get there. Okay, let me go through, I did some research. I have a fantasy recap and what we might do next season. Is it okay if I go through that and then you can- I had a question for you before we go through that. Sure. What? It's not the robot question. No, it's not the robot question yet. Is your wife ever gonna follow us on Twitter? All her tweets are just tweeting at us and she doesn't follow us.
I'm just saying like locker room culture. I went and looked in the last four tweets or directly at me and PFT. Yeah. And she does not follow us back. One of her tweets, our daughter just sent me this video. She was simply doing her homework on a Sunday night. They don't know who DAC is. This is Jerry's erratic behavior. I was talking about on your sports podcast. Also, there's a picture of you from Thanksgiving. What is happening? PFT and Big Cat Jerry will only talk about benching La Porta. It's bumming everyone out. Happy Thanksgiving.
And then she said, so happy part of my take fantasy football season is over. Big Cat and PFT Jerry's torture on Sundays and do you know why? Because he sucks at it. Loser, get a new manager. This is your wife, supermodel by the way, who is calling you a loser and asking us to fire you.
Is that winning culture? Listen, I don't, I'm not in charge of her socials. You know, I'm not that ingrained in her career. It's not like a Blake Lively Ryan Reynolds thing happening with the two of us. We do our own thing, but my wife maybe doesn't follow you guys because when you follow someone, you can DM someone. And last time I was on here, you talked for a good 90 minutes about how you used to masturbate to her image.
I don't think that's what we said. I don't think that's what we said. I said, I loved her in the swimsuit issue. Yeah, absolutely loved her. But then you like did a weird like lip. You like lick your lips. I don't think I did my lips. We just said that her swimsuit issue was a very big part of our childhood. I became a man. Yeah.
Yeah, but I would, they're right there. I'm saying, I became a man. You're going to be anything that you masturbated to my wife. And why would my wife follow you? No, I'm saying she, I grew up. Yeah, that could be, that could be learning how to drive a car. It could be a bar mitzvah. That'd be Kins and Yara. There's a lot of things that becoming a man is. Yeah. But why, you know, my wife for decades has dealt with like weirdos and creeps. And I guess I will point it out to him. We'll handle him for her.
Like is Jerry bothering you, Rebecca? We'll help you.
I will talk to her about following you. I'm sorry. I didn't know that you weren't being followed also. It's okay. It's okay, but she's listen. She is I would say the perfect example of our fan base being upset about our fantasy manager. So we want to hear from the fans. Okay. Maybe we need to do a jerry con where we invite all the fans and they can tell us face to face. Hey, here's the problem with his fantasy managing because
We answer to the fan. Jerry, let me just ask you this. Stand by me. Yeah, I was in it. Great film. Thank you, classic. How would you describe that? What is the genre of film that is? A buddy, a coming of age film. Exactly, interesting. Rebecca Romain was a coming of age thing for me. I understand what you're using the word coming. No, no, no. You said you started that. You started that. It was a long view. It was a long review. It was not. It was not. German views with the two dots on it. It was like booming.
Yeah, yeah. It's a cooming of age. He was zooming. He was zooming there. I would agree with you. I'm cooning of age. Yeah. Guys, listen, let me get to my fantasy preview for you. What I can do for you as a manager. I know you're thinking about bringing someone else in. I don't want to bring anyone else in. I think I can handle all the play calling duties. Let me just give you the research I've done based on the 2024-25 season and what we have to look forward to. You had that for.
Yeah, this is basically it. This is our exit interview after a tough season. What it is. That's what they do. Every team does this. After the season is over, all the players meet with the coach and the GM. Talk about, hey, what's the direction you think you're going? How did you play? What can you get better at? Is this a performance improvement plan? Yeah, it's not.
that we only have, we only have one of those that we're allowed to use and it's currently being used. It's like a franchise tag we're currently using on memes. So we, the PIP can't be passed around like that. Okay. Let me, let me go through my preview. Okay. So the exit interview, you're not exiting. What would you say you do here, Jerry?
I didn't know that Joe mixing. I mean, that's also just, that's a transparency issue because we find out, yeah, like the athletic is going to do a story about this being like inside a tumultuous 24 hours of the part of my take fantasy league and be like, Jerry O'Connell turned down AJ Brown for Joe mixing and that's where the seas, that's where he lost because imagine if you're AJ Brown or sorry, if you're Joe mixing and you know that Jerry is shopping you.
How do you, how do you go play ball after that? It'd be tough. It would be tough. And you said that his, his, his season took a downturn major right after you had him on the trade block. He, he actually fucked us. He fucked us out of, uh, out of, out of winning the whole thing. Oh, guys, you, you want to see my plan of fitness shorts? I was sort of rush. I had to go with the George. Those are the Bing Bong shorts.
Oh, man. How about Mr. Bingbong? Can you believe I was in stand by me? I was a Jerry Maguire and currently the thing I'm most known for is Mr. Bingbong. I can't wait for NBA playoffs. We got to bring them back. All right. Here we go. This is our fantasy recap. Exeter view. You don't like that word, but that's what they use. I don't like it. Let's start with the AFC North. Let's start with the Bills. That was a bummer this weekend. Oh, no. Hold on. Time out.
Yeah, big cat. I think we need to get somebody that... Oh, sorry, AOC, sorry, sorry, sorry. AOC, sorry. AOC, sorry.
I feel like Jill Biden now. I have to be like no, he's fine He's of sound mind and body. You can still do this job. Do you use Madden for any of your rankings and help decision-making? No, but actually Maybe sometimes when I when I gamble I use I look at fantasy defenses how they're gonna perform. Mm-hmm
And I was always looking for a system with gambling. And I thought, oh, what if I'll use fantasy defensive rankings and bet whoever the, the, the team that that defense, bet against the team that that defense is playing. Um, and it didn't work. It wasn't a system. Okay. I know that brick is a listener of this podcast. Yeah. Brick could be the guy that we bring in to work with Jerry. No, don't do it to me guys. Oh, he knows inside and outs of a NFL franchise. Yeah.
Don't do it. Okay. So where are we starting? AFC East got it. Let's start with the bills. Um, the receivers have been a total bummer this season. I mean, Khalil Shkir is their number one receiver, Omari Cooper. They got hosed by the Browns, man. That was
That was a bad trade. Kincaid has been a bummer. Of course, Josh Allen is a stud. Of course, James Cook, man, he was possessed so good on Sunday. Lead league with TDs? 16.
Nobody else. I mean. Cooper was weird because it looked like it was going to be a good trade right at the start. And then nothing. Nothing. He had one game against Tennessee. Yeah. But nothing. And by the way, that's what they were missing this weekend. All right, let's go to Miami.
I wanna apologize to you guys also for not making that AJ Brown trade, but also I did not see John who Smith this season. And that's something, if you are managing a fantasy team, you need to draft people in the 12th round who end up being a top five in their position. That's that might even been a waiver wire. It may have been. I just didn't see him and I apologize, it was too late. What happened with our wire this year?
Did we make any big pickups?
You know, Jalen Warren was a waiver wire pickup. I don't really recall at this time about our waiver wire. Because that's do not recall. Please note it in the ex-interview. That's a big thing that I do not recall. That big can I have, like Belichick, it's like the undrafted free agents. That's where you win. Yeah. And his answer was I do not recall. Do not recall. Not important. Okay. But you know what, Tyreek, Waddal, and Tua, H&A, of course,
incredible, but I got to tell you my problem with Miami. Your head coach can't shiver on a sideline. That's not allowed. And I got it. I'm not even making a joke here. Like refugees, shiver, like, like dogs, dogs that don't have homes. Oh, by the way, Max, way to be congrats on Nola.
Max. Thank you, Jerry. Billy, whatever. No, look, Billy. Yeah. Nola. Rescue dogs, shiver. You know, head coaches can't shiver on national television. It's why I like a fat coach.
Yeah. You have a good layer of insulation. By the way, I think Tyree Kill is going to go to Washington. You think so? Interesting. I don't know. I think Josh Harris is going to pay that $27 million and it's going to open everything up and I'm really looking forward to that. Yeah. He's a great player. He's still really, really good. I just don't know. You got to take a gamble on some of the off the field stuff.
I think Coach Quinn can handle it. I think that would be fun. The Jets means, are you there? Hello.
None of them ever again, ever again. I think this team this last season is going to be studied for what not to do. By the way, this is part of my take. We have to have takes. I think the problem is Aaron. I think he's the problem and I'm going to tell you why. I told you I have teenage daughters.
They're at the age now where they're bringing suitors home, young men, and I make them say hello to me and I shake their hand and I go, hello, nice to meet you. I'm their father and I look them in the eye. I look them in the eye.
to look for, to see if they're druggies. Yeah. And I got to tell you, Aaron Rodgers has druggie eyes. He looks like a druggie. And I know this because I'm dealing with young men all the time and I look, I look at them and I'm like, is this a druggie? Is this a druggie? You're a druggie. Get them out of here.
Aaron Rodgers just has druggy eyes to me. Yeah. And you know what? You don't want that around brick. We mentioned brick. Impressionable. Impressionable. Yeah. Oh, I have my Jets buddy memes. Are you still there? Still here. My Jets buddy thinks the Justin Fields is going to come to the Jets. Interesting. Yeah. I got a name for you. Okay. We're about Derek Carr.
That's a good name. Yeah, it's a good name. I just, this season really. You're just off quarterbacks. This season with him, I'm just not feeling it. I know he's a friend of the show. I listened to his interview. It was a great interview. He's must, he looks good. Good harms, definitely works arms. No druggie eyes, maybe Prozac eyes. He's got the mascara. He's got beautiful eyes. He's got pretty dreamy eyes. Yeah.
Oh, I do think, I do think Aaron Rodgers will go to, I think he'll go to Tennessee. That's kind of perfect for him. I could see that happening. Yeah. Maybe the Browns. Maybe the Steelers. Maybe. All right. The Patriots. Hank, are you there? Yeah. Hank.
Man, can you believe that people actually get nervous when I'm about to talk about their needs? Yeah, because of your final judgments. Yeah. I can't believe it actually matters. Oh, memes hate you, by the way, from what you just said about the Jets. Yeah. Listen, memes, I'm a Jets fan. It's got to be said. Sorry, memes. You didn't have a coach all season. See, he's mad. Also, Devonta Adams and Garro Wilson, you should take them. Hey, you know what? I want to ask you, memes. Aaron Rodgers.
Is he of drug EIs? Yeah, he's a full blown drug addict. But he had the second best season in the franchise history. Top five quarterback. Top five quarterback. He was top five in everything in the Texas game. Hank. Yep. We're going to draft Drake May next season. Wow. We're going to draft him. Let me tell you, Josh McDaniel's, Josh McDaniel's is going to turn Drake May into Brady 2.0. Wow. We've got more on now, too.
I gotta tell you, Hunter Henry, Hank, you're back. Not only that, I think that's the first time that's ever been said, Hunter Henry, you're back. Hank, Hank is back. You guys are picking fourth? Yeah. All right, let me say this. New York, Shitball Giants pick third. If they pass on Travis Hunter, the Giants,
and the fucking Patriots get Travis Hunter, I will be so, because then we have a, we have a Hank problem for years to come if that happens. So, Hank becomes Hunter Henry at that point. It's so scary. But you know what, I think you should,
The Giants should take Travis Hunter. I think you guys at four should reach for that. I'm going to mispronounce his name. Tett McMillan Tettoria. Oh, from Arizona. Yeah. Awesome. Wide receiver Tettoria. Somebody help me look it up. Max, you're good with accents. You're good with names. Tett. Max? You can just call him Tett. That's what I've been saying. No, I want to say his phone name. Look it up.
T-t-t-toria. T-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t
To Tyroa. To Tyroa. To Tyroa. To Tyroa. All right, T-Mac. I think you should draft T-Mac in that fourth spot. You should reach for it. But Hank, great job, man. I mean it. Really good job. Thank you.
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All right, let's head over to the AFC West. Okay. Get that right, the Chiefs, right? Yep. Yeah. Okay, the Chiefs, it's tough to get a beat on them because everyone was injured this year. You know what? I know my homes have big games that Carolina game, that Tampa game, a couple others, Houston Pittsburgh, but he had kind of a blast season. He didn't. Oh, this is a fantasy recap. Obviously they had a winning record.
This isn't about records. This is about fantasy. Everyone on that team at a blast season and watching them these last few weeks, I have a feeling these old heads wait till the playoffs to start playing like, yeah, watching Travis Kelsey. It's like he really didn't start playing until last weekend. And that's not what we care about, you know, like we want regular, we want weeks one through 17.
Oh, I have a non fantasy question. Okay. Obviously, Josh Allen and Hallie Steinfeld. Steinfeld. Get Steinfeld? Haley. Haley Steinfeld. Tetroria. Yeah.
Uh, get engaged. Um, do, uh, do a Travis, uh, does, uh, Travis and Taylor, do they feel that? I think they, I think she's waiting to propose to him. I think her fans would be like how dare, how dare Travis think that he can propose to her and put her on the spot like that.
Well, isn't she sort of like a, I don't want to put anyone inside of like a, I don't want to cage anybody into their artistic boundaries. I don't want to give anyone artistic boundaries, but isn't she sort of a mainstream, like, aren't we waiting for like a formal like engagement from them? Like, isn't that informal if the woman is engaging? Sorry to.
Well, I guess I was just, I was thinking somebody asked the question in the gambling cave on Sunday, what if the, at the end of the Super Bowl confetti coming down Travis Kelsey gets on a knee and proposes to Taylor Swift and we were saying that the Swifties would not like that. No, because that's putting her on the spot at his biggest moment.
So what if she proposed to him at the Grammys or at her big concert that she was at? That to me feels like that might be the way that relationships go. Yeah, AMAs, Grammys. Yeah, then they just become essentially the king and queen of America at that point. Wow. Like they become the number one tabloid story. Yeah. What are Travis and Taylor doing today?
there's gotta be pressure. They're also at that age where everybody's getting engagement rings and he's just giving her a friendship bracelet. Like one of those concert, what do you call them, a friendship bracelet? Would they give each other? Yes, a swift friendship bracelet. Friendship bracelet, yeah. It better be the best ring ever. Gotta be. Ever. All right, so yeah, none of the chiefs. Okay, chargers. Oh, you know what guys, I wanna thank you.
In our fantasy preview in August, you told me to draft Lab McConkie. Yeah. And you were right. That's how you win fantasy. He was a 10th round draft pick for us. So it's the most important pick that our team made. Me and Big Cat actually made that pick. And he just said that's how you win fantasy and we didn't win anything. That's true. Not winners.
player. Sounds like the standard is just getting into the player pick. Just write that down. Hey, you know what? Part of my take got to have a take. Justin Herbert for fantasy reasons kind of sucks. He's yeah, they ran the ball a lot. He's not really going to work for us. I got to tell you too about the Chargers. That Quentin Johnson drop in week 12 against Buffalo. Mm hmm.
I had the circumstances. I think it was was a fourth. It was third or fourth down. They needed it. It was against Baltimore, right?
and hit him in the hands and he dropped it. That was some, that was some, remember Daniel Jones tripping on the way to the end zone? That was some butt fumble. Yeah. That was some Cody, Parky, Double Doyink. That was like, I can't look at that franchise for a few years after that drop. Yeah, yeah. It's just one of those. It's fair. Oh, Najee Harris might go there. That would be interesting. That would be interesting.
Possible landing spot for Tyreek, but other than lad we're not touching anybody. Um, let's go to Denver. Okay. I have a kind of a take with Denver Denver gets t Higgins or Stefan Diggs Cortland Sutton and bonix are must drafts Their defense we played them so much this season. They're awesome
They could in that draft reach for that Matthew Golden guy that that tall Texas. Yep. Wide receiver. Denver's running game. We're not touching it. Javonta is old. Please don't tell me. Aldrick Estimae is good. But if they get T. Higgins, Bonix, Courtland Sutton, must drafts. Okay. So you think that if they get another really good wide receiver, then their number one receiver gets better. Yes. Yes.
or their number, or we go with whoever their number two, two receiver is, but they just, I, I have a theory and fantasy that you need, you need that Addison to help Jefferson. You need that Jefferson to help Addison. It opens it up and people score more points. I mean, point, look at the Lions this season. They all opened it up for everybody, you know? Yeah.
I do think that Bonix is going to have a great year next year. Have you seen the clips of former quarterbacks for Sean Payton talking about the play calls that they have to learn and how long they are? They go on for like 15 seconds sometimes. You have to tell everybody on the offense what you're doing on that play and then also throw in, okay, here's what we're going to check to in case they blitz. The fact that Bonix played that well, his rookie year in Sean Payton season, I think he's going to be great in the second year. I like it. Okay, let's go to the Raiders.
I don't know what's going to happen there. Now, if they get Shador, okay, which they're saying they may trade up for to get Shador, they may trade with the Titans. That's a possibility. Then I have to tell you Jacobi Myers and Bowers become must drafts. Love that. If Russell Wilson is their quarterback,
I'm not even going to watch a Raiders game. Not only am I not going to draft anyone because they're typically afternoon games because they're West Coast. I may not watch afternoon games next season. If Russell Wilson is the starting quarterback on the Raiders, if Pete Carroll does that to the Raiders fans,
I want nothing to do with the Raiders. Okay, fair, yeah. Oh, speaking of Russell Wilson, AFC North Steelers. Steelers are in the AFC North. Yes, correct. Man, like that Seahawks defense, you know what? Richard Sherman was right. They carried Russell Wilson into the playoffs. Don't you ever talk about me? Remember that? Yeah, yeah. I was at that game. Oh, really? Yeah. Sorry, receiver like Crabtree.
Man, the Steelers aren't for years of hurt. Yeah. It's just, it's gonna be years. It's gonna be bad. It's gonna be bad. Oh, but you know what? I will say, from a fantasy standpoint, Nodji Harris leaving, Jalen Warren becomes a moustache. Good running back. Oh, George Pickens.
Uh, maybe the commanders? I don't know about that. Why? That would be awesome for you. He's, I love watching George when he's on a different team. Okay. Uh, Hank, Hank, Hank, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, George Pickens to the Patriots. You don't think the coach Ray Bull can straighten him out? I don't know if anyone can straighten out George Pickens.
So good though. Yeah, but he's not. But he's so good. But he's also not. All right. Ravens. You've seen North, right? Yeah. Oh man. You know what? I missed not drafting Zayflowers fellas. That was on me. You know, I work with a guy who told me once Zayflowers was small and it was just in my head. That happens. It just gets in your head, you know? You get it taken. It's hard to get off it.
Um, but you know what? I gotta say, man, I gotta pay you guys a compliment. When I came in here with my preview, you said draft Derek Henry because he's gonna look good in a, in a Raven's uniform. Yeah. And you were right. Yeah, he looks really good in a Raven's uniform. You look big.
strong. Let me ask you something. If you were in an executive position in NFL, yeah, if you were making decisions about players in the NFL, the answer is yes. And you use these rules. Yes. You know what? He would look good. Yeah, we'd be good in a uniform. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think that would uniforms are 50% of the game? But do you think that sort of thinking would make for
Do you think vibes? Yeah. Well, yeah, you got to go off vibes sometimes. Like you look at the Photoshop of a guy and you think, okay, what if, for example, what if Tom Brady was a Tampa Bay Buccaneers? That looks good. Yeah. Derek Henry is a cowboy. It doesn't really look as good. No. Yeah, you guys were wrong. I think he said Andy Dalton was going to be a good bear. He's going to look good as a bear. Well, that's it. Listen, Andy Dalton needed the new hair. So that was, yeah. Maybe it wouldn't work. I also love Derek Henry's new hair.
Yeah. He goes even higher, I think, on my board next year. We are definitely, if they're around, going to draft Lamar and definitely Mark Andrews, that man is going to be on a mission. He's on a mission. He's got months to just sit at home and think about it. What a bummer. No, that was so funny. When you posted the photo on X of Stavi, I'm not going to say it because it's on here, but with the thing in his mouth. Yeah.
You post that photo and I remember looking at it and be like, whoa, I can't believe they're posting that. That's not good. And then I watched it. Yeah. None of it was. He was down bad. No, it's funny. The Bengals, man, I got to say, you guys told me to draft Chase Brown. I didn't.
The more I go through this is a lot of misses. He comes under the bus. Sounds like we drafted a perfect team. You were right about Chase Brown. I missed on that one. Kaseki kind of sucked. You know, T Higgins, wherever he does go.
Something to think about the last two seasons, he's missed 10 games. So that's something to think about when drafting him. Obviously all the all the Bengals, they're great. And you know what? I think they're going to, I think that Al Golden guy is their new defensive coordinator. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know anything about him, but he looks like a football. It's a good defensive coach. Do you think that with T Higgins, maybe he missed some of the games because he was thinking about getting a big contract? Um, protecting himself.
No, I think some players just get injured more often. Yeah. Browns. This is interesting. If the Browns draft Cam Ward, I think the Browns have the second. If they draft Cam Ward, Jerry Judy will be a must draft. Okay. If the Browns, because Coach Stefanski used to be Kirk Cousins' offensive coordinator, if Kirk Cousins goes to the Browns, Jerry Judy will be a must draft. Wow.
Ford and Chubb, it's, we're not drafting them, but if they get a quarterback, Cam or Kirk, draft Jerry Judy. We're drafting Jerry Judy. Okay. And when Chubb, when he's healthy, if you have Chubb or you have Ford and you're watching a Browns game, whoever scores a touchdown, you get excited and it's always the guy that you don't have. Exactly. Always. Exactly. Bummer. AFC South.
is dead to us. Yeah, I was gonna say skip the whole thing. The entire division. They're just cursed. What is the word in? Hey, Max, Max, Max here, here, present. What's the Italian American term? It's the milochio. It's a milochio. It's like the curse, right? I'm like. Yep. Milochio sounded right to me. It's milochio. I think it is. It's like the curse. Yeah.
Titoria. Titoria. We got to get that. I want to apologize to Mr. McMillan, T-Mac. I'm sorry. Once we get it, we'll get it. But the Mallochio, the AFC South just has the Mallochio. C.J. Stroud, let's start with the Texans. What a bummer, man. What a bummer. I got to tell you, Anthony Richardson, I believe was more successful than C.J. Stroud this season. I'm sorry. I know the fantasy point is possible.
I don't even care about fantasy points, just in terms of expectations. That's a take. I like that take. I'd like you to go on that take. That's a quite a take. Just in terms of expectations, CJ Stroud was a possible like Super Bowl contender and he did not have a good season. I know I have a bad taste in my mouth because of Joe mixing in that trade and how the Texans finished their season.
Look, Niko's great. I get it. Tank. Get, get well soon. Mixing did have a good season, but I got to tell you, weeks 15, 60, 14, 15, 16, 17, it wasn't okay. Schultz sucked. None of them. They got the Molochio. The Colts.
Man, I gotta take ownership of this too. We drafted as our QB1 Anthony Richardson on our team. And that was a mistake. It will never happen again. I actually, I'm coming in here with takes. I think Anthony Richardson is out of the league in a couple years. Oh, wow. What did we say about that when Jerry said he's targeting Anthony Richardson? I was like, I don't like it. You said don't do it. Yeah. Don't do it. Yeah.
Guys, don't fire. We're not. We're not. I paid for one third of it too. I did and driveway suffered and it was pricey. It was it was a hit. But I. Yeah, the Colts, the Milochio.
pitman was bad jonathan taylor jonathan taylor could you imagine if we had if you had him on your team and he rips off that forty one-yard run and at the one-yard line drops the ball and i want to tell you i wrote down what he said in his post-game interview he wrote you could be up fifty you could be down fifty it could be a playoff game it could be the first season it could be the first game of the season that should just never happen
But he also, he did have incredible games down the stretch. I understand that. And he was out to prove a point after that. But it's still, I want someone to say, I'm changing my life after they drop after they do that at the one yard line and drop a ball. And by the way, lose a game that they should have won.
They should say, I need to change, I need to change major things in my life. Yeah. Yeah. Something major has to change. That's rock bar. Something major has to change. Not just like, that just can't happen. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he, this is about you, Jerry, not about me, but I was in three fantasy leagues. I won two out of three of them. And I had Jonathan Taylor. So again, it's about you.
You jumped and tell her you won with him. I mean his last two weeks of the season he had insane games. In the playoffs, in the fantasy playoffs? It's more about that one yard for you though. Yeah. But that's okay. Yeah. I do agree. Winner, loser,
how you decide to get there. I would like to see a little bit more like that's the worst thing that I've ever done in my life after that game. Yeah. I would like to see somebody say that. Accountability. Accountability matters. That's what we care about. That's what we care about. As we're managing it. Standard. Yep. Yeah, he weeks 16 and 17. He had 218 yards and three touchdowns. And then he went 125 yards and two touchdowns.
Yeah, like, so Big Cat, if we're looking at one of our employees and they dropped the metaphorical ball at the one yard line, I would like them to say to me, I'm changing everything about my life. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with you, Jared. He literally, he dropped the ball and then he scored six touchdowns the last three weeks. Jerry makes a great point that we would like to hear that. Yeah. Good point. Okay, Titans, do we even do the Titans? Do we don't want to do the Titans?
I'm sorry, I lost my train of thought. I'm sorry guys, I dropped the ball. No, it's okay, keep going, keep going. I dropped the ball at the one. People dropped the ball at the time. Yeah. Oh man, you know what else months we had about the Colts? Oh, who was the Colts number one tight end? Tell me that. Number one tight end. Who was their leading tight end? I'm just going to say Moellie Cox for sure. No, it was someone named Kylan Granson.
Kylan Granson, Mo Allie Cox, and their other tight end Drew Ogletree had a total of 400 receiving yards all season long. That's not okay. Dallas Clark, Jack Doyle, Colby Fleaner, Tammy are rolling over in their retirement chairs.
Molochio. The Titans. Oh, I do want to say, I know if we were going to draft anyone in the AOC South and we're not because they're dead to us. Pollard's got some gas in there. Yeah, I don't hate Pollard.
We did draft Pollard on our team. All right, good work. Good job. Okay, and if the Titans do not make that trade spots with the Raiders and take Cam Ward, Calvin Ridley becomes a must draft. If that druggie Aaron Rodgers goes there, Calvin Ridley becomes a must draft. If we were drafting AFC South players, oh, Cam Ward,
goes to the Titans. Their new general manager, Nick Borgazi, not Nick Borgazi. Nick Borgonzi, Nick Borgonzi is their new general manager. He's the one who scouted Patrick Mahomes for the Chiefs. So, Ken Ward and the Titans. Watch out. Best quarterback of all time. Watch out.
Um, Jaguars, I guess, Brian Thomas Jr. He's pretty good. He can't draft big speed or Teti N. Do they have a general manager yet? No, no. Tell me about incoming. Who is the incoming him? Uh, he is the assistant general manager for the bears. And I would like for him to go to the Jaguars because the bears would get two picks in the third round compensatory. Wow.
Um, so you have no, uh, I'd like to pick. You'd like to pick sober. I he seems like a pretty good, like guy that's trusted and, you know, but I would like to fix. All right. Um, anyway, we're not taking anyone from the AC South NFC East. We're in the NFC. Okay. Let's go. It's the Eagles, right? Yeah. Okay. Um, Max, next season, if I'm the manager, will I be drafting any Eagles?
Max. Yep. First of all, before I say this, how do we pronounce Goddard? Goddard. Goddard. You were right the first time. Just Goddard. Yeah. But it's spelled G-O-E-D. Yeah. So it's spelled Goddard. It's pronounced Goddard. Yeah. Goddard. Goddard.
We're drafting all the Eagles, man. I'm a single one of them. And if I am offered a trade for AJ Brown, I'm just going to fucking click accept trade. That feels like something we shouldn't telegram. Man, smokes. Yeah, we're just we're putting out some disinformation right now for anybody listening in or in that league. You understand why I didn't make that trade, right? I mean, no, I don't. I don't because of the book. Yeah, because you read a book. Yeah.
Man member that max I just want to say I know everyone talks about Goddard and by the way I believe don't quote me on this leading receiver in the playoffs for the Eagles But you know when he won me over that triple stiff arm in the wild car weekend man
Incredible. Went back for more. He could have just kept going, but he said he had to slow down to give him just one more punch. Oh, I got to give you another props, another one on the Eagles. I was staying at a, I don't know if they were a partner of the show, I was staying at a Marriott Bonvoy Hotel. Sorry. No, that's okay.
and I was just sitting in bed and there was like a Marriott channel and Jason Kelsey had like an infomercial in there because he's a spokesperson. He's not usually on TV. He was really good. I thought he had a really good personality. Talented guy. Yeah, watch that infomercial. It was like a treatment in infomercial. I was riveted. Yeah. I thought it was good stuff. I mean, he's not playing anymore. Are you sure he has a TV show?
Uh, he has a late night show. He does. Mm hmm. Friday nights. Was it a Friday night? Uh, what, what is it on? Yes, man. Uh, sorry guys, this is the, the, this is the only sports. I get them all the sports. Yeah. Love that. Love that. Good point. Um, because Mario Lopez is usually the guy that I see on TV when I turn on a TV in a hotel. Do you ever think, like, do you ever see Mario Lopez and be like, man, if my career had just gotten a little better, that could be me.
Good question. Good question, good question. No, I try to just worry about my own language. Okay, all right. Yeah, no. Hey, listen, I mean, I'm here. I know you're here. Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. I flew here, Coach, last night, middle seat. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a
Doesn't Mario Lopez want to be fighting for his chance to manage your fucking fantasy team at the next season? Something that he inspires to do? Why should he just like? Mario Lopez probably would be awesome as a fantasy. He's a good looking guy. Yeah. Yeah. Ageless. Um, NSE, the commanders, right? Yeah. Oh man. I know I've said this before is scary. Terry gets.
one more receiver, maybe Devonta Adams, maybe Tyler Lockett, who doesn't want to be in Seattle anymore? Tyree Kill, he would have a Jamar Chase, a Jamar Chase-like season. Wow, I like that. I think we will get a wide receiver. You can bet on that going in next year if we draft somebody in the first round or if we sign somebody in free agency, I think we will have a very good number too. That Zach Gertz is so awesome too.
Man, so good. Hey, anybody see that video? I didn't hear you guys talk about it. We're Fletcher Cox, Max. You on Max? Max? Max? I am here. Fletcher Cox hugging Zach Gertz. Cox hugging Zach Gertz. Man, that was that was emo, man. Yeah, that was because it was like so because it's Fletcher Cox and he obviously can't pass a line and he's going, Zach, Zach, it's like calling someone from the stands, you know, Zach. Oh, man, that was really emotional. Yeah, that moment. I really like that. Earth's not retired. He wants to make that very clear.
He shouldn't. He was awesome, man. God, I love a Washington tight end as well. Cooley, Vernon Davis, Logan Thomas, love him. Yeah, maybe they draft that Matthew Golden guy that we talked about earlier, that Texas guy. Or Savvy and Williams. He's huge. College football expert.
Yeah, Ohio State. Let's help Jaden out a little bit, everybody. Jaden and Terry. Oh, the Cowboys. Okay, this is interesting.
I guess Dak is staying there because Coach Schott and Hymer is now the head coach, right? So I guess all those rumors about other people coming in and other head coaches and all that stuff is not happening. I don't think you really can move Dak. I think he probably has a no trade clause, right? Oh, what would you be? Would you be a Titans? Would he be a better quarterback if his name was Zach? Zach Prescott.
Yeah. Yeah, Zach Prescott. Zach Prescott would be a pretty good quarterback. But yeah, I think Dak has the no trade. So I don't know that he would leave. All right. So he's staying there. I got to tell you, that makes me not want to be a part of the Cowboys. And by the way, you know, Jerry Jones is going to, Jerry Jones, you know, T. Higgins is probably going there. Stefan Diggs, he's going to get Aaron Jones over there.
Water is wet, the Dallas Cowboys are gonna go six and 11. It's just, it's gonna happen. I don't care who is over there.
It's, we'll draft Brandon Aubrey, he seems to be- Yeah, very good. They're all offense. All right, see? Yeah. Yeah. Guys are- Good job. The best kicker of all time. Yeah. Good kicker. Okay, let's get to the Giants, still NFC East, right? Mm-hmm. I think the Giants have the most intriguing off season of any team in the NFL. Now, do you have a bias against the Giants, Jerry?
I don't mind the Giants, I guess earlier. I think you called them the New York Shitbag Giants. Well, they had a terrible season, they were unwatchable, and it's been that way for a couple of years.
They have the third pick, right? Yeah. Okay. I said earlier, they've got to take Travis Hunter. There's some rumors that they might take Alabama quarterback. No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. It's been on some, it's been on some mock drafts. Yeah, people will talk about it. Okay. They get Travis Hunter.