JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

What's up, everybody? Welcome to Flagrant. Today is the second coming of a dear, brave, courageous friend of ours who has kind of just absolutely exploded. I mean, he had a weekend in New York where he was not only headlining Madison Square Garden. It was not only the musical guest for SNL.

He was not only performing for all his central park or something. I didn't know what he was doing. That was crazy. He managed. This is what I mentioned to this guy is, he managed to even make time to come out and see one of my little stand-up shows of the comedy seller.

Give it up for our dear friend Billy. I have to say like I felt so I was telling my wife this I felt like so guilty because I promised my wife that we would go out we would go out to this place in the Hamptons we have and I was like I promised we would go and then your weekend in New York happened and I was just like

You know, this is the one week and away. We're away every single week and on the road. And everything's crazy with this special. And I'm like, I feel so bad. I'm going to miss. I'm like, all right, at least I'll make NMSG. Don't make it. At least I'll make it. I'm feeling the worst fucking friend. And you could have let me feel OK by just leaving. But instead, you're like, I'll just come to you, baby.

The boys didn't represent on y'all's behalf first of just know I am a traveling man, but yes, I know me in real life No, no, I felt that in my soul man because God knows it me and buddy get a weekend away. Oh

Man, listen, I don't care if Jesus comes a Nashville before God. You know how much I love the Lord. Man, we finally got us a weekend, man. Come on, man. God bless God. It's everywhere. Dude, he's been coming to me. He's been skinny now. How much are you down? I'm down a hundred. This is the first time I've got to say it. I'm down a hundred. You're down a hundred. That's awesome. I'm down a hundred. How's dick came?

Man, crazy, it's coming back. I'm talking about him. My wife just had this conversation because, you know, I've struggled my way my whole life and she's seen me get really big and seen me lose weight before. So I was like, yo, and my trip in her is like, it's not, it was a lot faster last time as far as even losing the weight and getting the dick back. So I was like, am I tripping? And she's like, listen, my wife is the most honest human on earth. She goes, Daddy, you're a little older now. We might have to just get that thing cut off.

Because I'm like a kangaroo with a pouch above my pen. You know what I'm saying? The pouch goes back, the pecker comes out. So I found myself in this juxtaposition where I'm losing the weight here, but the pouch is still pouching. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I got to look exactly. Oh, that's fine. No, it's not. No, that's fine. It's the worst.

You know what I love about y'all? It's my biggest I like this that you have that nice little area. That's it cuz you gotta make a work for it

No, I feel good, though, man. I'm losing weight. I was telling you, that's why we quit talking about it. I'm hitting that moment where you start to hit a stride and weight loss or just in everything. Like just the clarity of clarity is coming with the weight loss, the music, the writing, the tour, the production, but even down to like my discipline of like,

I have, I don't want to say I've overcome it, but dude, I haven't ate anything. It's been so long and I don't even think about it. Like, I just thought about this the other day that I've been such an obese human and fought food addiction so long, Andrew, that I would walk into rooms and make assessments of what was in there that I could snack. You're like, just born.

Like I said, super fat shit. I'd be like, yo, there's a can of Snickers. I got a little bow here. There's a can of Snickers. You know how to be having the cans with the little baby Snickers. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. Yeah. And now it's like, man, I'm in the dressing room the other day. And there was a, I don't, I didn't even notice the candy in the dressing room until somebody said, do you want one of these? Oh, yeah. And then I was like,

I'm not even thinking like that no more. I remember when I caught that with drugs. Like the first time that I found myself in an environment where people were doing cocaine and I wasn't like, got to get out of the room. You know what I mean? I was just like, oh yeah, I used to do that. That was all right. You know what I mean? You struggle with drugs. Like you said, my family, we have a lot of addiction, but like I noticed my dad. No, that's pleasure.

That's fun. It's just like my brother's stopping and my dad's stopping and went to food. I have a little bit of a food thing too, but they're the same. It's just like an addictive personality. You let go of one for a lesser one and then eventually you let go of food for maybe work or whatever. But like you think that's just a progression of it? I'm not a hundred percent sure because I was fat and doing cocaine.

It's hard to do. I can jump and change all of that skillset. But I found myself, I don't know, man. I think it's for me, is I'm just starting to do the real work on me. And I'm starting to really start to come to peace and find myself in situations. What does that entail, the work on you? As cliche as it sounds, I've done a lot of therapy, just a lot of self-help, a lot of what I consume. I didn't realize that

not just what I was consuming was making me huge and making me feel bad and inflamed, but what I was listening to, the kind of stuff, the rabbit holes I found myself going, you know, just like darker shit. You know what I mean? It's like, I didn't laugh about this. This would like, you find yourself in just like, you know, dark holes of just what you even listen to or intake or

Then your timeline becomes full of it. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, dude. That's the problem with the algorithm. Yeah, it's the Wild West, dude. You accidentally stumbled on one dude getting hit, blown off. Yeah, for three days, you're like, I can't, that's my phone. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's wild. But I get, and those pass for me wasn't always internet rabbit holes. Yeah. These are the self ones that I struggle with.

You know what I mean? When I just get a loan in these little rabbit holes and I'm doing better at those now, man. I'm just thinking better. I knew you were doing well, man. I knew that you were making like ridiculous money because you brought a guy out to dinner with us and he was and you said this is my philanthropy guy. Wow. Are you Mr. Beast?

I was like, what? He's like, yeah, he handles all my philanthropy. I like that. That's a different level of money when you're like, other people need some of this money. This is the guy that gives away. Yeah, you've got to give away your money. We're married for that. We don't need people. That is a problem.

We don't need a guy to stop her from giving it away from this. She thinks Hermes is a charity. It spreads motherfuckers making billions. We're 16 minutes in and I'm like, I fucked up. I do this. Just like a beautiful broken stream. It's a straight up right now. Beautiful broken. Beautiful broken. Beautiful broke the rest of us. It's not all these masters.

I thought he was Billy credit for the whole time. I was like, oh my God, we got fucking Billy credit with us. Like, you know, the best part is it was such a Schultz moment. I often forget you and Tony are my two friends that I forget about this until I'm out with you. Oh, yeah, I know where you go.

That y'all are knife of men. You know what I'm saying? You're just like a knife of a man You know, I think I know what you mean, right? You get it like the room this my dude is quietly observing. He's maybe interjected once or twice, but just enough results to go to

So how do you fit into this? That's my philanthropy guy I'm like damn Billy credit doing right now

That was the worst way to frame him. His name is Miles Adcox. He does look a lot like him in that one picture, but he actually does a lot of in the mental health space. He owns a big company called Onsite in Tennessee. There's one in San Diego. It's like a mental wellness retreat. It's done a lot for me a lot for me in my life. If you're depressed in San Diego, kill yourself. How do you do that?

Let's fucking go. He's going so well for jelly man.

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Yeah, I keep looking at it like, I'm scared. I don't even remember what he was in. I came in and I was like, look man, we do give away a lot of money. And I was like, I do need somebody to help me. I can't, man, I feel so bougie saying this.

No, because it's- But y'all are relate, because this is just real life. This is how I would talk and we went on a pod. I just have too much incoming to give anything the proper time it deserves almost. You know what I mean? Like in any major- Yeah, you've seen this. Yeah. But when I know that I feel like it's been on my heart that I need to- Give back. Yeah. So he's so cool. He's got such a big infrastructure for his other business. He'll just put his people on it.

like, you know, we all, you know, go find this is what he wants to do. He wants to do this amount of soup kitchens, this amount of juvenile facilities. And now it's caused a chain reaction where when I go to venues now, you know how venues give us our guests when we play these arenas, even doing them longer than me. We get gifts. They give you jerseys and a box and all kind of stuff. Everyone tries to give you something cooler than the last arena. It's the coolest shit ever. But now they'll always all donate a check.

to a charity in that city in, like, honor of what they know I stand for. So you still get like Jersey, right? Yeah, I'm still get to Jersey. Don't give it to them, kid. You know, the boss is selfish. Let me hold the thing. Oh, it was crazy. Yeah, they got like 18 of them. You know what crazy? I stood over and took pictures for like three minutes before they were like, you can touch it. I was like, I was shot of Adam and finger fucking.

It was crazy. Yeah. So now it's become a thing where, you know, so yeah, I have a guy that really is a great guy, man. So else with that, because we try to do a lot, man. We try to also help with many people. I mean, you're a great guy. You're the great connector. I've realized because.

You have this song. Oh, that was it. You also did Fallon. We were watching Fallon that night. I can't believe I left out one of the things that was part of that weekend as well. So you and MGK do Fallon. MGK is hanging out with you. Also, great guy. This is MGK. That's why I'm bringing it. That's why. Great guy. It was great. We had this moment where he was like, yeah, I don't understand. Why don't people think that I'm like a nice guy sometimes? And I'm like, well, let's look at the outfits a little. And I remember he looked at somebody and was like,

Okay, I get that one. It was really a pig furry shirt. He's like, yeah, that one I get. He's like, I like wearing stewardship, but that was a little fun. Yeah, that was the best. Cause he'd go, I stand on that one, but yeah, that one was horrible. So funny to watch you in that moment. No, he was great too. And that is what often happens, I think in his business, is that you might have a perception of people and then you get to a point where you start meeting them and you're like, a lot of times surprised at them being like really nice people and like sweet people. All right, cucks, let's do some dates. January 9th through 11th.

I don't know why they gave me those dates to be honest with you. Now that I think about it. Size litter is in Tampa. I feel a little way about that. I'm gonna be honest. January 23rd, the 25th Sacramento, those tickets will sell out. I promise you, they sold out two years ago and I wouldn't even really sell tickets back then. January 31st through February 1st.

West Des Moines, Iowa. Again, I cannot believe there's an East Des Moines, but West Des Moines, Iowa, I'm be at the funny bone. February 21st and 22nd, I'm going to be in Brea, California. You know, you guys love me. February 28th through March 1st, I'm going to be in Nashville, Tennessee. We got more dates coming. I think I'm going to be in San Diego one of those times as well. Either way, guys, come through. Love y'all. Akashting.com for tickets. Thank you so fucking much. This year was awesome. Sold out.

I think shows were six months straight this weekend. I had the first show I didn't sell out, but still such a fucking awesome year. Love you guys. Thank you so much. Let's get back to the show. The interesting thing about that is you're with MGK. You have a song with MGK. You also have a song with Eminem. These guys are mortal enemies. And somehow you are so talented that you are positioned in between both of them and they're like, I still want to work with Jelly Roll. How do you manage that? Man, the first thing is,

honesty. Okay. Right. You got to come into both parties, honest. How do you talk to Em? Well, so Paul is, and I always bring up Paul in interviews, because I feel like he never gets brought up enough. Paul was involved. He was involved. He was involved. He was involved. He was involved. He was involved. He was involved. He was involved. He was involved. He was involved. He was involved. He was involved. He was involved. He was involved. He was involved. He was involved. He was involved.

his, I believe his publicist, his assistant, who kind of runs the record label. I don't want to call her assistant because she's so much more. Sure. But he's had like the same four people around him for his entire career. Wow. Entire career. Amazing. So you don't really talk to, you know, he's the wizard, man. He's the biggest solo artist of our generation. He's sold more records than Elvis.

You know what I mean? I mean, it's insane when you think about how big, you know, you don't really get to see the wizard a lot. But I've seen the wizard now and hung out with him and he's a fucking great guy. You know what I mean? He's really down to earth. He's super honest and he's very intentional with his words. And we hung out on video set for 12 hours, just like dicking around. To show you his personality, he walks in my green room going, somebody shave me. I need some genetic. So we'll get you a deal there.

And just fucking find the first thing you had to know the first one we have when we're singing I'll tell you that story too, but just let me praise Paul for two more minutes. He deserves it.

Paul has always been trying to get me an M together. Like every time I've seen Paul, he's like, if Marshall don't understand anybody else, he's going to get you. When he gets you, he's going to get you. And he's telling me this for like, since I met him when he was working with Yellow Wolf a decade ago. Wow. You know what I mean? So like Paul has been that champion for me the whole way. So Paul calls and he's like,

send me to save me record. And I'm like, y'all mind if I tell this story first? Cause it's hard to get into all this. Cause I don't think I've told this one like this. So Paul calls and he's like, send the stems to the save me record. He calls John Maniele, my manager. Now keep in mind, John Maniele, man is Jay for a while. So they've already worked. They have a real, their friends for real for 30 years now. They've been in the business together for 25 years. So he hits, he, his John Maniele is like, yo, send over save me.

I think Marshall wants to fuck with it. And that's all he said. So, you know me, I'm like, you know how rap works? I'm like, I'm fixing to get an M&M remix. Like, he's just going to drop a verse in my lap one day. Like, I don't know where and I don't care. Whenever it comes, just thank you God, you know? And I had already told Kells that story back then. And Kells is a real friend. You know where Kells is just like, yo,

It's huge. Keep me posted. You know what I'm saying? Like he's cheering for me. Like at a heart, his heart is like, you know what I mean? Like, yo, man, that's I can't, you don't have a problem. Tell me an MGK. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. It kills being an MGK. He's like, yo, you don't have a problem. So this is like, I probably shouldn't town stamp it too much. This is 18 months ago. Oh, wow. Yes. Like, so I get to the point. I don't think it's coming.

Yeah, I'm kind of just like, I didn't happen. It's whatever, you know, it works. And then I get the call. It's like, yo, it's going on the record. It's closing the record. I'm like, what? Second single. They want to shoot a video. Now, keep in mind me and Kels are.

We hung out at the Grammys. We had both lost, and we ended up on what we called the loser tour that night. We went to all these weird, crazy, like, Illuminati parties and stuff like that. And we went to, like, three or four of them. Like, it was, no, no, no baby old bashes. But I went in and we went to all these weird parties, and he played me the idea for Lonely Road that night.

So this is, you know, three, four months after me and Kels have already worked on two or three records together. We're hanging out every day. I'm an L.A. bunch. I don't have a friend out there. I only know him. Yeah. It's like, still, you talk about when I pull up on you, Bubba, you're my only friend here. What do you mean? I'm going to pull up on you. I don't know nobody. You're my only friend. Well, that makes me feel less special.

So me and him are hanging every day and I'm like, yo, this, this, uh, this M&M thing's real. I was like, it's fixing to come out and they want, they want to do all this. Now we're already in there. Now on the other side, we're, John's having to do straight business with Paul. Like hey, Paul.

You know, Kels and jelly have known each other for 15 years on and off. They were beefing jelly, distant. I was a hater back then. It's a whole fun other fun story. Yeah. It's like, but they, you know, they're buddies. And here's where Paul's a good dude too. Paul's like, yo, man, we love jelly, man. Just appreciate, appreciate you telling us. Yeah. Never got brought up. Wow. My heart is always to bring them together one day. Cause I see so much more of them in each other than they know.

Yeah. You know what I mean? I hadn't really brought it up to Marshall yet because I'm just still just kind of glad that I'm still in that circumference to be able to have them conversations. But I do see like there's so much more in them than not. But like I also gave kill some perspective too was like we all grew up watching Eminem.

take over the game early light. If you got mentioned in an M&M song, it was like getting mentioned in a comedy special. You were on fucking fire. You couldn't be hotter if you got mentioned in an M&M special or an HBO special. You know what I'm saying? An M&M song or an HBO special is what you wanted your name to be brought. I also think that that beef between

MGK and Eminem, like that verse from MGK was I think the most underrated actually. I thought it was rated. Like, I think most people looked at that and they were like, whoa, this was way better than I thought. And then I think Eminem's verse, I don't think people thought that he absolutely knocked him out the park. Like, I thought that they, the reaction to it was this is more competitive than we thought it was going to be. So I think that MGK's respect went up.

Well, what's interesting is over time, it's changed. In the moment, I remember that being the response, and now when people look back on it, they're like, oh, Eminem ended MGK's rap career, because MGK transitioned into other stuff. And so I think the narrative got rewritten, rewritten that way. But I remember in the moment, people being like, yo, I don't think MGK necessarily got destroyed. But, you know what I'm saying? I'll say it to touch on this, because I'm going to slip re-slope. Yeah. Just not. Just not. Everything Andrew just said right now, I won't.

the flagrant listeners to know he said to MGK, I watched y'all have this same conversation, which I think is super cool. But here's how I feel. Look, man.

they're going to get together one day eventually. It's inevitable. The world's a circle. You know what I mean? And I think that they're going to find each other's heart more than they don't. And if they never do connect that way, I think that it did more for both of them than it did to hurt either one of them, brother, brother, either party ever fully acknowledged that. What MGK did after that, I don't think had anything to do with the beef as much as his heart and what his spirit was because he technically dropped, I think Hotel Diablo.

was the project right after the interview. Don't quote me, but it was the two. It was the mainstream sellout and it was the tickets to my downfall that changed. Yeah. We're talking about a couple of the biggest out. They'll go down as the biggest albums of this generation and pop and pop punk and punk rock and maybe in rock and roll like new music from new recording artists in 10 years of rock music. I think those albums will be the biggest selling.

So that's the thing they're like, that was it. No, I told him this shit too. Like what I saw is him as a rapper, knew him as a rapper, then I saw him become an arena acts rock star. And I knew that I was getting old because I was like, what is happening? What happened? Did you feel that way as well? I didn't know when to switch out. But he went to arenas. And so something must have been resonating with the rock music.

on a different level than rap. I also think it's hard to be like an arena, rap star. Like how many arena rap acts are there? You know, we were talking about this before and let's, it's, it's, it's, and like stadium. Yeah, it's for sure. Eminem's stadium. But like arenas around like Drake. I'll tell you, let's go step deeper. Eminem's a plus one at most stadiums. So he can do two stadium shows. He's a plus one. Most stadiums in America. That's great. I mean, yeah, I mean, that's, that's like Taylor Swift. Yeah. Like 100%.

Wow. Yeah, he was Taylor. Yes. Yeah. Even now to his day. Like what are the arenas? It's like Kendrick Kendrick Nikki. I think Nikki Nikki like this unbelievable following him. You can do the ring. She came to Nashville Travis Travis. Travis.

Who is Meghan and Glow? Is it Meghan and Glow the package right now? Because they're doing arenas right now. Meghan and Glow together are doing arenas right now. But that's still package. And maybe Meghan is red hot. I fucking love everything. She's great. She's the best human ever. When I met her, I was like, I grew up going back and forth to Memphis my whole life. Coming up under $3.6. I was like, yeah.

Please let her be as Memphis as it looks. Let it like off camera. Let it be as Memphis as it looks. Oh, she is so Memphis. It's like talking to Project Bat. It is awesome, dude. It is incredible how Memphis she is. But they're doing, they're full blown arenas now.

Now that killing, it's just. Hold on, who in the truck pack? Rap Space. Say, guys. I hate to use that phrase, but like who from that space? Suicide boys are doing an arena tour right now. Whether you acknowledge them as rappers or not, I think they're sickish. I love the suicide boys. I know they're doing arenas because we're on their ass every night. They're playing Tuesdays and Thursdays like us. Wow. And they're selling almost clean everywhere they're going. Wow. Oh, that's awesome. I mean, it's just a rare thing. It's like, especially in the rap space, it's rarefied air. It's listened to as rap music is,

When they did the West Coast package, I remember they did, like, uh, whatever they labeled the West Coast package and had cube. Oh, I mean, when 50 went back out, he went out and did it. He was doing it. But then again, you got one of the biggest rappers ever. It's like Kanye. Yeah. It's just a hard thing for rappers to do.

For whatever reason, for as much as we listen to rap, as popular as rappers are, as like scene and notice and recognize, it doesn't translate to ticket sales in the way that like maybe country does, definitely doesn't as rock EDM, you could argue, is like over-index it. They're EDM DJs that I have no fucking clue their name. There's an EDM DJ.

named Anima, Anima, that is doing the sphere in Las Vegas, and they've added shows, so now they're at like six or seven shows or something like that, four New Year's Eve, plus others. Did you guys know who this guy was? I mean, no disrespect to him. You guys did it. You did. You know Fred again? Oh, he's crazy. That guy's fucking massive. Fred again was on our new artist Grammy list this year.

That's how I kind of got hip to him. And I was joking with Noah about it. We were joking about all the, you know, who all we were, me, Noah. And I think Gracie Abrams were all talking at the table. And I said, the funny part of this is Fred, I don't even think Fred again came to the Grammys by the way. I'm not sure. I don't think he even showed up. Yeah. But if he did, I didn't get to meet him and he's going to make more money than all of us put together when it's all said. It's crazy. He's doing crazy. He's like a stadium show where he'll like have a B stage in like the nose bleeds. They did a wild thing. They did a

OK, I'm going to fuck this up probably. But with MSG, what they wanted to do is go on sale the day before the show. So they wanted 24-hour notice. And I think that they couldn't because of like a ticket master, regulate some stuff like that. So then maybe it was like a few days.

They sell it out immediately, and then they do the show, and then for the show, I'm going to butcher this, and somebody will fucking correct me, whatever. They keep the lights on. I think they start the show in the afternoon, and they keep the lights on until it's 8 or 10, whatever it is. In that moment, the lights switch.

And just imagine the energy building, building, building, and then no one. He treated the MSG like it was a club, because it wasn't even like the normal end stage. This was like, it mixed in the room. And then he did it with Skrillex.

Oh, okay, okay, okay. Because I think we spoke to his manager when we were in Vegas. Anyway, what a creative idea. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He did one where he was at, and I think it was at the Hollywood Bowl, and he got all the people that came to his very first show when he went to LA, and it was like 200, 300 people, and put them in the Hollywood Bowl in one section and did a private show for those like 300 people. The day before the actual

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Yeah, I'm in back at you like the guys and I want to hear you guys you know reflection on on your show but what everybody came to me and they're like oh this was amazing and there was this it there was so much creativity added to it but like the explosiveness was awesome and I was talking to a guy about

EDM or whatever. I don't know anything about EDM, okay? But I was talking about, I got some EDM and he said something interesting because I asked him to play that Animagaya, Animam. I don't know if I'm pronouncing it right. And it was like an hour long set and it started like real hard kind of like pumping stuff. And I was like, I don't know if it's nine. He goes, you have it's an hour long set. And I go, so and he goes, well, like the first

20, 30 minutes, he's just getting everybody's heart rate up to from 80 beats to like 110. And I go, well, you know, so that they can do this big drop because it'd be different if he was just doing like five songs.

as a comedian, you think about these things, but not, you're not as tied into like somebody's biochemistry as like you are with music. So when you're setting up your set, are you, if you have that hour and a half or two, how long is your set? 95 minutes. So 95 minutes, are you considering that? Are you like, okay, we're slowly bringing them on, everybody's same page, everybody's same page, bill, bill, bill. Can you look different? But can you break down like what you're thinking when you're creating a set? Yeah.

Of course, every show is different. Every tour, just kind of like you with the life. But for me, this particular tour, I was like,

I wanted to make a real statement at the beginning of the show. Like it was important to me not to like, cause like the trick is either you come out to like an up tempo hit that people know and then you kind of play into the crowd and then you kind of bring them into the couple songs they don't know and the set slowly ramps up and slowly ramps up in the last four songs. The biggest four songs. This is like rock and roll one on one.

And I was like, so I've always tried to stay away from that model. Not to give away too much of what I do, but immediately I'm like, fuck, that model sucks. You know what I'm saying? And I'm like, fucking, even from my perspective. It's expected. And also, yeah, 100% gone. So I was like,

What have we come out? And the first thing we do, I blow one of the biggest gags I have. I mean, I walk straight into the arena and all eyes on this thing that happens, right? And I drop, I'm not okay. I'll take Kate. You know what I mean? So it's the fucking first thing I'm doing.

I mean, I'm walking right in like fucking balls on table. And I'm doing an effect, right? I'm doing an extra thing that happens. It's like, even if I look right now and tell you, you know what song I'm going to do first, and it's still going to have a moment in the song, we're going to go get the fuck out of here. You know what I'm saying? And I also did that because I wanted people to go, where can you go from here? That was intentional too, because I knew once I put us in a box,

where whenever me and my team were talking, they're like, all right, this is the side. And I was like, this is what I want to do with this. They're like, cool. I was like, that's how I want to start the show. And right then you can see them go, fuck, well, how are we going to finish? I'm saying, I'm like, that's how we challenge ourselves. Now we got to work through it. We know where we're starting. And, uh, and then I build the whole set like an emotional to me. It's about, um,

Music, the best concerts that meant to most to me were the ones I remember leaving how they made me feel. Like I don't even remember the set list. I don't fully remember what songs they sung. I remember some highlights, but I'll remember like the overarching theme of like how I left feeling. And I want people to leave this like feeling like free.

Like, you know, I don't know if I've talked to a bunch of people from up here. Don't take this wrong, but like, I always bring it up like an old, like, that old church feeling like there's something about leaving church on Sunday. There's this misconception that you leave feeling like you're going to hell. But like, if done right, you feel like that at some point in the day, you leave feeling like

I'm fucking a good guy. I showed up. I'm going to eat lunch with my mom now. It's like I'm on fire. You know what I'm saying? It's like, that's how I want people to leave that show. And I try to cater the entire set to go into that moment. Because if I know that's my end game, then I just got to figure out how to get there. I know how I'm starting. I know how I want people to feel walking out the door. How do I push them out the door? Oh, that's awesome. I can attest. Crisis King.

All right guys style benders back. Yep. Yep. Yep big fight. Yeah, this you know, this is his first non title fight since

a year after he entered the UFC. Wow. Wow. Wow. How long is it? I forget. I saw the statistics somewhere, but this is the first non-title fight because I think he won the UFC title, I guess, within like a year and change. Yeah. And then hasn't had a non-title fight because it's either been he won or rematch. Wow.

Wow. Wow. That's insanity, right? 2019 or 2018 was the best one. That's crazy. Imagine fighting the second best guy every single fight for years. That's crazy. That's a long time to be the best. Yeah. People forget, that's a thing like, and I'm a prisoner at a moment or whatever recency bias or whatever that shit is, but you forget what that's like. Imagine every fight you have is the Super Bowl. That's what happens when you're the belt holder. Yeah.

It's best, too. Your name on the arena every time. Exactly. Everyone tuning in to see you. Not some 12-game in a season where you're playing some bum-ass squad where you don't have to go home every single time. The titles and the guy who you're fighting.

has been thinking about that moment his entire adult life. That's crazy. Yeah, that's nuts. I'm actually excited to see him fight a non title fight. I'm curious to see like, is he loose? Is he fucking around? Yeah, you don't have to carry the weight of the promote. I mean, I'm sure he's still headline in the car, but it's not like you're not carrying this weight like you do. And I just wonder what that's like. Like what he said when he was here, he was like, Oh yeah, I'm gonna try some new stuff now. Yeah, like I'm looking forward to that.

Like, is he gonna try to tap him out? Like, what's going on? What are we gonna see? That's... Yeah. What do you know about Imavov, I guess, is against him? I saw Imavov fight some other dude, and I fucking... I'm forgetting who it was, but... I mean, the guy's nice if he's gonna be fighting Izzy, you know? So... But yeah, I'm just excited to see it. It's gonna be like when you get back in the clubs after the tour. Yeah. Don't do an arenas, and you're like, you still want to do good. Yeah. Like, we can... Yeah, we can follow up. We can have some fun. Let's just tell ourselves a little bit. Yeah.

Yeah, so yeah, that'll be really cool. And then also, you got the the the the Mahasha fight. Maka took my motherfuckers. Maka chef. Maka chef. You see, you see. Islam is fighting Sarukian. And I don't know that much about about I think it's arm and Sarukian. But I know it's their second fight and apparently everybody's saying how amazing Sarukian has been. Let's see what happens. But that's going to be January 18th. Does Sarukian have a mustache?

No, but he's Christian. He's from Georgia. He lost. Or he's Armenian, but still Christian.

Yeah, he lost. It was funny where Ariel Homani was interviewing him, and he kept saying things that were in Arabic. He's like, ah, salaam alaykum and all these other things. And he's like, OK, I don't know. I just completely lost him. Why he was saying these things. So but yeah, let's see what's going on. You know, we're like detached, I feel like from the rivalries in the Middle East.

So we don't realize the stakes when a Georgian fighter fights a Russian fighter. Or an Armenian fighter fights a Turkish fighter. It doesn't mean as much to us because we're not ingrained in it. But I imagine that's their version of what's a big boxing rivalry, Puerto Rico versus Mexico, Floyd versus a white guy.

So yeah, I'm excited for these. Obviously get it popping over at stake, you know, leader in global betting and US social casinos, bet on top sports, political events, use the promo code flagrant for your welcome bonus. And let's get back to the show. You've been blowing up. I want to hear about all these stories. I know some of the experiences you must have been having are crazy.

I will tell you the story about Saturday Night Live that I don't know. I don't know. I'm sure everybody else knew this but me, but I didn't realize that the dresser debts live live. It's not like live live. It's live live. But I didn't realize that the dress rehearsal was for an audience. Yeah. Oh, wow. I don't know why I would have missed that. I guess just when you watch it, I'm not enough behind the curtains to know that side of the business about how to solve. So they can use that if they need.

I didn't know that was an option either because they ended up running the skip that we did a rehearsal that didn't make the actual cuts. They still ran it on YouTube. They just didn't run it on TV because I was in the skip. They just put it on YouTube. But I didn't know that. So I was like, Oh, this is like crazy. And that scared me because I

nailed dress for hers. And I'm walking off and I nailed it so much that like they're clapping for me in the hallways and I'm like,

Don't jinx me right now. I'm like, almost feeling weird about it. Like, don't praise me, y'all. This is fucking, that didn't count. You know what I'm saying? Cause we, I don't get to replace this one with that one. It's not enough time. That's not how live, live TV works. I don't get to come on and go, I like the first one better. That is a choice on some live TV shows, but you know what I'm saying? But it's like this isn't one of those. This is like, all right, well, that was practice. The next one's for real for seven million people tuned into the 50th season fucking opener. You're like, I'm gonna go out here and blow it.

And then I spent the two hours just thinking about how I was going to fuck it up. You know what I'm going to go out here and get this right? That right is in the green room. Yeah, I'm just in the green room and ain't in it by the way. Just circling. Just I had to go out and sit with my wife in the audience. So what are you thinking when you're on stage? It's dark and then you hear ladies and gentlemen, jelly roll. What's going through your mind in that moment? I was like, why didn't I just nervous the first time?

It was the same introduction, same people. No, I know it's live. So I'm thinking, I should have pissed. That's the first thing you're thinking. You're like, I should have peed. And you're like, I can hold this for three or four. You ever do that? You all have pre-show pisses? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. One of those were like literally the host is going up to introduce from your life. Oh, no. And I got a piss. I already go out. And if I'm nervous, one sip of water, I got to go to the bathroom. It's not even like crazy. I'm not embarrassed. I'm not ashamed to admit I had to piss on my first bucket on this tour.

Oh, really? I just said, yeah. Like, on the side of the stage? Yeah. What did the rest of the arena do? I have moments in the set, Bill, where I can kind of get away and figure things out if I have to. Got it. I built three moments into the set for, like, just for me to breathe of nothing else, but, like, it's just something's going wrong with a ear pack. You know, it's a big show. I got to figure shit out sometimes. Yeah. So it was just one of them fucking figuring out moments. And I told, right before I walked out, I looked at my guy, Yani, who's my guy in that particular situation.

I go, Bubba, I didn't pee. He goes, he knew it. He knows that I peed before every show. He said, oh, no, I said, I got an IV, Bubba. I'm going to have to pee. He's like, I have a bucket for you under the thing. So I went under the stage and, you know what I'm saying? It's fucking 16,000 people cheering. Some guys doing an electric guitar solo. You're like, this feels weird. You know what I'm saying? You're like, but you got a piece so bad. You don't have a choice. You did that one time. You did that one. Wait.

multiple times. When I did kill Tony at MSG, like, I was so my flight got delayed coming back from somewhere. We're over 40 was 50. Oh, sure. I did the same thing. You were going to make it. Yeah. And so I come in from the 50s and thing. I'm like texting Tony, like, dude, I don't know if I'm going to make it. I'm trying my best, whatever.

I get in, I get there. I'm like, boom, we're on. And they're like, okay, you're going to go on next to somebody's going to go up right now. I'm like, okay, I go to the Ron White's dressing room to take a shit. And as I'm like wiping, I hear them go, give it up from New York City. So I'm like midwife shit caked all over my ass.

Yeah, pull up my pants, go up there, sit down, didn't wash my hands at all, dapped up everybody with the duty fingers. No, I seen you look frantic when you got up there. Oh, yeah. Because it was the last 12 minutes of the show.

We were sitting in front of the house smoking a joint. I was like, he made it. What about Amsterdam when they didn't have a bathroom in the hole? Oh, yeah. What was that one? A paper waistpin? Oh, yeah. It peed behind the stage, right? It was like they had the fake green room that they built inside the arena thing, but there's no bathroom. Yeah. So you just had to rip in the trash can. I mean, yeah. And then after the show, you went up to some poor room and you're like, by the way, that trash can's got to go.

I mean, there was one time where like, I was wearing these pants, like, you know, usually I have like a jean or something like that or like a darker, but there was like a pan I was wearing. I don't know why I was like a light. And I peed and I was like in a rush. So I didn't let it dress. You gotta shake. Yeah. I'm a shake. I have to shake. Like at my age, I get, I would say between 40% of my pee out when I pee and 60% of my pee. Okay.

And I didn't have time to shake. And I remember running to stage and just feeling myself pee on myself. Like a full pee. Full pee. Like going down the leg as they're playing like the intro video. And I remember just like taking the pants and like rubbing it into one another. Like pulling whatever shirt that I had down over it. You wear denim or something light to your brain. It was light. It was light.

Oh, yay, yay. Y'all brave with them light colors. I got too much of a dribble, too, man. Oh, I'm straight dribble. The difference between me and you is, at least you can, when you shake, it's just a shake. I got to do a little bit of a little bit of hopscotch. You know what I'm saying? What was the game? Twister. I got to do a little twister. I got to do a little. I got to put one in here, one in here.

I'll be very deliberate about peeing in the toilet when I peeing. When I shake, it's a helicopter.

Like, it's almost as if, like, shape, triple wherever that goes doesn't count. Like, it's on this sink. It's everywhere. It's on the mirror bathroom. It's everywhere. But I don't feel any need to clean that up. For whatever reason, I don't know why. It's the same piece. It's like, you know, like when you're in a pool and you pee, it's okay. Shut up, you can pick that up. I'm interested, please.

I thought it was you got even more. But when you're in a pool and you pee, that's like, okay, with your outside of a pool and peeing into a pool, that's not okay. Getting in the pool versus peeing into the pool. But, no. You get out of a pool to pee. I mean, I don't really swim like I had to be honest.

But like you would leave the pool to pee. Yeah, go do that. Yeah

Now but now they got the stuff you put in the pool and it changes colors when you start yearning Now let's tell kids that don't be in the pool Maybe it's a fake video, but I thought the chlorine then like what is it chlorine do? I thought that's clean out the pee. That's why it smells like chlorine funny. I try not really some other people's polls

Sega try not to piss another people's pools. That's why I try to hold to my pool in Miami. I hope you peed in it. I don't think I've been that boy peed in that pool. I mean, I did. Yeah. Yeah, 100% I did. I didn't even know that you weren't supposed to.

Like you saying I don't pee in other people's pools like my brain exploded. I was like, oh, you're not supposed to do that. Like do you see it as like taking your shoes up before you enter like an Asian thing? No, I walk around the hump. I thought glory was to keep the water from getting stale like pond water. You know what I'm saying? Like I thought it was to clean the pee out of the pool.

No, I think it's more for like, you know, if water just sits stale like that and it don't get nothing, no chemical in it, and the water will start, you know, watering.

I'm just telling you man, I've been around a pond or two The only thing that keeps the pools of being a pond is chlorine. You know what the bummer about having a dribble is is it like

Like, I would never pee on my wife. But like, let's say that we got to a point in our relationship where we were like, let's try to spice it up. We're 60 years old or whatever. What are you doing in the shower? No, but like, if I peed on her, right? And I wouldn't do this. But if I peed on her, I would finish. And then I have to be like, well, hold on. Most of it's about to come out now. Like, we gotta be here for the little journal. We gotta, I gotta spackle it up. Here comes the helicopter.

It really just destroyed the mood like as hot as it is just getting drenched in urine

then me being like, oh, here comes the rest of it is. Yeah. I'm not how old are you? Huh? I'm afraid to be 40. I'm 40. My dick is 90. I don't get the drip. I got the, my problem is my piss is in spurts. I know when I think I'm done, I got another one coming. I just got to be patient. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? I've just got to stay in there for another second and be like, there's a whole nother one of these. Yeah. All the way. Yeah. I just got to sit here and relax. I know that. I know that. I know that. Like when you hold the hose close. Yeah.

I know it's on the way. You shit on the bus? You shit on the tour bus? No, no, I got a shit in the bag instead. What? Have you ever had to shit during a show? What? Can that be honest with you? There was one show where I went on stage knowing full well I had to shit and I remember I got off that stage and I belined it to the bathroom and I filled that fucking thing up. I created like a volcanic island like the dude who filled the hole

and then groom and then breach the surface of the water. That was always feels, those are great, those are satisfying. I feel a classic stuff, yeah, you killed it. It's one of those where you look at your stomach and the beer afterwards. Check your abs, it was one of those infamous. Why, have you shit on stage?

Well, I have first of all, my wife's going to hate this podcast. I have no shit shame and she shames me for it all the time. Good. We need that as well. I don't have it. But we were playing Pittsburgh at a bar that was connected to a bowling alley. Nice. So there was like this back in the day. Yeah, this is eight years ago, seven years ago. Maybe for six years ago, even

And it's like a 500-capper, right? Our green room is through the crowd. It's one of those things. And our green room didn't have a bathroom. I hate that. So you would have to go into the bowling. What a fun dude. But the way the backstage was set up behind the stage was like an outdoor fenced-in area that you could sit at a picnic table. You see where the stories go.

I'm on stage. I like this. Listen, man. I can't believe I've told us on this podcast. And I feel it rumbling. I'm like, it's going to happen. I get the drummer and I'm like, yo, I just need you all a vamp. Just like, you know, everybody gets a solo. We don't even get here. So you don't have a microphone to talk back like now we can go talk. We got full conversations on that stage so we can hit one microphone that just us can hear. Oh, that's smart.

Yeah, it's crazy fire. So it's like that wasn't an option. So I'm having to like go to my guy like Play I'm fixing the shit and I walk straight out the bag doing where that little back patio was Drop my draws my wife standing right there. Oh, what are you doing? We've been married maybe a year

And I had, this is like, prime drug and jelly roll, drinking, coating, cocaine. Like, my shit was, it was in, just water almost, just soft serve water. And I'm just, I could not stop. They played for... Was it coming down your thighs? It's encouraging when fat people talk about it, right?

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

The shitting on the side of the road is not a new concept to me. What do you say? I'm experienced in that moment? Yeah. Nothing. You gotta get up with shit. No, no. Listen, you sagging.

Yeah, he was in his grief. I tried to stay. He wanted us crazy. I wiped and I broke. I broke. Oh, that's petty. Yeah, he's lying, but it's disgusting. He still feels real. I did do a lot of lives on that. So I look cool.

I'll make you look cool. It's working in my own ass. This is the story. I know one time I'm not gonna keep telling shit. You went liquid shit airdraw? That's where you gotta shake. You gotta shake after that liquid shit airdraw. You gotta do one of those for sure. You know what else you gotta do? You gotta squeeze the butt cheeks together and then squat and then squeeze.

Get it all out. Get it all out. Too fast. I've been in the country. I've been in the white with leaves before. You have to wait with leaves. That's kind of nice, actually. I've done that. No, that's not that stuff. Marked out a little tear. Then the smoothest leave out there is going to butcher that butthole. I like that. You guys are a country.

What do you mean with a smooth leaf? Because if it's too smooth or it's not gonna grab, I need some grip. I need grip. Listen, I need grip. I need it to be like a skateboard. The first time I went to my uncle's farm, my cousin, she didn't wipe with poison, poison ivy. Oh, poison oak. It was poison oak. It looks like a regular oak leaf. Oh, wow. It was a poison oak. And then what happened? Oh, he flamed his answer. What are you talking about? Oh, man. He was so bad. Have you ever had poison ivy?

Poison Ivy, I've had all the way from bottom of nut sack to tip a tailbone. Oh, no. We had a neighbor that did that. He's actually from Tennessee. Really? It is from Knoxville. And he got Poison Ivy on his hands. I swear to God, his wife came out of the room. Like two hours later, she was like, my breasts are burning. I swear to God. I'm not lying. She's like, my breasts. I just don't know what it is. If you touch poison ivy, you can't piss.

Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, touch your dick after that. Watch. Bubb. That stuff is it's like chicken pox. It goes with everything it touches. We gotta do it. I'm so hot ones, bro. We need hot ones with that. It touches dick after pox. It is. Can you transfer to other people? Immediately. Yeah. That's how the wife got it. Literally, if I touch a poison ivy right now and I

Grab my dick. Touch my dick. I'm not touching your pecker. Touch my dick. No, no, no. Maybe that's, yeah, I don't know. But maybe that's, maybe that's what the foreskin or whatever was designed to do, initially. It is a sheath. It is like a protective, yeah, a layer. Damn. Yeah, you need that. You need that. Do you think the foreskin is immune to types of IV or poison?

I think it is immune to a lot of poison. I think you could drag that fucking hangy dick to your stuff. Push the poison open. Sometimes it does collect little things though. Sometimes. Like, you know, like, like stickers and stuff? It collects a little stickers. No way. If you're out of the way still. Are you looking clam? Like, if we open you up, is there going to be like a little marble in there? Yeah, there's jewels. Oh my God. Yeah. You let it go too long. Can we do that on a Patreon? Yeah, we might need to. That might be kind of sick. Yeah. That's why you just got to go commando, bro.

You have a bidet? Oh, I live by bidet. It's an earnest, earnest, no term. Earnest, no, I'm sitting a bunch of bidets during COVID. We don't need one. Somebody found, no, we got, listen, so my, every time we go bathrooms, they come out because I like the attachment so much. Wait, what? Yeah. Oh, with the wireless situation. No, no, no. Yeah. Yeah. He was like, she bought the one from

They make them mad. They got a full ass toilet. I can control the temperature. That's the underrated water. That's sick.

Relax that we've been talking about. Why are they so good at the toilet thing? Why did the Japanese? Why are we not? We eat the most shit the most got to be. Yeah. Why are we not more focused on ass hygiene? Yeah, I'd have a day for years now. But they know that. Every event the board of body. Do we feel like that's something we would have. Oh, must have. Yeah, George Harding made the first port party in 1960. That's great. That's great. Damn. It makes me wonder how they were shooting in festivals before that.

I don't like Woodstock. Woodstock was in the 60s though. Yeah, but they just, oh, that's a good point. But yeah, though, they had a, that was a problem. Man, you were like a fucking idiot. They didn't have enough. Well, I don't know if they had a quarter-parties. No, well, they didn't have enough. The problem was, do you know the story about Woodstock, right? Y'all know this? No. I'm going to butcher it and y'all correct me, but at least in the spirit of me trying to get it right, is they anticipated based on like ticket sales

this to be a flop. They staffed it for like 4,000 people. So what happened was because it was so loose, they didn't even put fences up or try to gate it or nothing. They were just like, look, it's just kind of, at this point, it's integrity. We sold 4,000 tickets. Anybody who wants to show up can come. But back then, it wasn't like you could post that on fucking TikTok. You know what I mean? So they thought, you know, maybe our neighbors will come. Maybe, you know, the community will come together. They were expecting like five, seven thousand people at most.

When a half a million motherfruits and the words started getting out, fucking Jimi Hendrix, all this crazy shit's happening and it's free. They don't have a fence. It's like, yeah, it's a third unit, right? So it immediately, just like the whole

this part of America. Yeah. Yeah. Right into it is what? So yeah, no, there was shit everywhere. When you watch the documentary, it's super bad. The other problem was they didn't know how to feed people. And there were so many people backed up on the interstate highways. That's why there was only one woodstock. It was a logistical nightmare.

The other side of the beauty of what we see is they could not, they thought people were gonna die. It was really bad. The locals came in and started cooking like big bowls of chicken and rice, just to mass feed people. Wow. They wasn't ready to feed that many. They wasn't ready for that area of New York wasn't ready for a half a million motherfuckers. Yeah. Still people don't know. You feel bad for the fire fest guy. He's like, I went to prison for this. And the woodstock guy has got like the greatest documentary. What the fuck?

Yeah, it was great. He's running it back. The firefess is running it back. Did you do it again? Yeah, would you perform a fire fest too? Um, I think I probably pass. Yeah. I think I probably pass. I don't know, man. I'm all about second chances and redemption too though. Yeah, I would hear him out. Yeah, I would give him. I would give him an audience. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, what did you really learn? Make sure he comes thirsty. Did you not come out here? Like the problem is with with prison is

People either come out and really want to change their life or they come out smarter. And that's the truth. And I'm all about second chances. So yeah, I hear them out, but my gut reaction is fucking out. But I'm also just not into being on a plane that long. It just doesn't sound like my crowd. I don't look based on what he tried to book.

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So it's you who else? It's going to be so Luke Combs or Zack Bryan's, but Luke Combs is Friday night. Yeah. A headline Saturday night and Zack Bryan headline Sunday night. Wow. It's going to be 75,000. It's going to be, I mean, it's going to be.

insane. Yeah. Where's it? It's April. It's it's the cell is the first week first two weeks and then the week after it is. Yeah. And then hold on. There's a fun little thing. T-Pain, Creed, and battery boys. Oh, five years. T-Pain is tired. Look over Nelly doing 25 years. Oh, Nelly.

on a deal, right? Yeah. Sammy Hagar. Sturgel. Sammy Hagar's the man. Oh, Sturgel's gonna be awesome. Sturgel's gonna be awesome. Sturgel's gonna be awesome. Sturgel's gonna be awesome. Sturgel's gonna be awesome. Sturgel's gonna be awesome. Sturgel's gonna be awesome. Sturgel's gonna be awesome. Sturgel's gonna be awesome. Sturgel's gonna be awesome. Sturgel's gonna be awesome. Sturgel's gonna be awesome. Sturgel's gonna be awesome. Sturgel's gonna be awesome. Sturgel's gonna be awesome. Sturgel's gonna be awesome. Sturgel's gonna be awesome. Sturgel's gonna be awesome. Sturgel's gonna be awesome. Sturgel's gonna be awesome. Sturgel's gonna be awesome. Sturgel's gonna be awesome. Sturgel's gonna be awesome. Sturgel's gonna be awesome. Sturgel's gonna be awesome

April, I'm in there. I'm coming. Come bring your wife. It's going to be big. How crazy is it to have the baby out there? It's great, Colin. Put the headphones on. People bring babies all the time. It's great. The weather was great when we were out there. Also, the baby can stay. You're not like, it's not like a woodstock type thing where you like, they're the whole day. You can go back to the house and then come back for different. And also, especially on my night, I have the whole compound, so it's whatever. I'll give you your own room. You'll have your own room. Don't worry about that. We'll take care of you.

Yeah, okay, that'll be fine. We'll roll out to red carpet and be fun. This is a big deal for us. If you know, one thing y'all know about me is I'm like, y'all, this is how we became friends. Is that we treat every moment that is a moment? Like it's a moment. So y'all know what the fuck I'm fixing it. It should say jelly rolling friends. Cause I am fucking, I got big tricks on my sleeve. I got big tricks on my sleeve. I'll talk about it. I've already got one commitment to divide this one commitment. It's the only one it comes through.

It's going to be the most legendary thing that I wrap a stagecoach. Really? And I've got two more calls out for even crazier looks. Wow. And like seeing that like Saturday of stagecoach, that's when everyone is there. It's like just a Jay-Z Beyonce main stage for equivalent with what they're just going to say you should bring up. Yeah, that's the weekend at Coachella.

Yeah, it's that same audience. It's not that we can we can it's obviously the biggest artist man. You're just thinking what drugs he's going to be doing. No, no, I haven't been into drugs though. I'm being the fatherhood. Yeah, fatherhood. I haven't I haven't smoked a cigarette or anything since the baby and I haven't touched drugs since the baby. Wow. And not really even had any interest in doing it. It's kind of weird. But I will say this, Burning Man is calling me a little bit.

I'm just talking to my, the guy who does like PT and training stuff. Shout out.

and he's fucking unbelievable. You guys should definitely get in touch with him. If you can, he's incredible, truly incredible. Like, save my shoulder. My shoulder, I was getting courtes, what are they, courtes? Courtes zone? Courtes zone or courtes zone? Courtes zone, yeah. Courtes zone shots, but a doctor was literally like, yeah, this is just what your shoulders are gonna be like, a doctor. And then him and, uh, they basically just like saved my show, like, truly remarkable. Makes me truly believe in PT. Anyway,

Oh, fuck, I can't. Now we got to believe his name because I want to tell you the other thing. But he's like a chemist with everything in his life in terms of what he puts in his body outside, like with food, et cetera. And then just today, he was breaking down his, like, how he does the night, how he ramps up the night. And yeah, he's like, he tests his own drugs. Wow.

He creates his own pills out of it. Wow. Like he's dancing himself. He's down to the micro science. He's got the down to a science, what he needs to have his perfect cortisone, right? So the second he told me that shit, I was like, I think I need to get high again. I didn't know you could do it like a science. You know, that seems safe. Bless a man. Learning really when you get down to it. Yeah. I've been a parent a little bit for a little while now, and I can tell you one of the most pieces of parent advice I can give my two young fathers here.

especially for you and your wife, which I've met both of your wives, and I think they're both sweet people. It's important for y'all to find time to not be parents. And I know you're early in the process, so that sounds unbelievable. No, no, you're right. It's moment. But it is important that y'all go to Burning Man and completely fucking lose your mind. That is the only thing that will make that balancing act work. Because a little night out with some wine, or a weekend, a weekend away at a hotel, a staycation, that's not enough.

You need everything you need to go out and be like, we're fucking college kids again. We're fucking going to get naked and swing from Santa later. We're going to get kicked out of the fucking hotel. Like it's important every now and then all parents out there. I'm just going to trust the fat man with this one. Y'all I swear. It is a backbone of something to me and money of stood by. It's like it is important to every now and then because even you're going to do stuff and we're parents 24 hours a day, seven days a week, three or six, five days a year.

Every now and then, I just don't need to be one. You know, it's funny. It's like you spend so much time more time with your wife, your partner, whatever, once you have a kid. And but it is fundamentally nothing like the time that you've spent in the past. So before any time you get together, right, as a dude, you obviously calculate, you're like, OK, we got tons of time this week. This is awesome. We didn't get time next week.

But when you're with the baby, you think you're getting that same experience, but you're not filling each other up in the same way. You're getting filled up by that baby, that baby is euphoria, right? But there is another component which is filling each other up. And whether, I don't know if it's, you know, you got to go crazy every single time, but literally just make sure you go out to dinner. Like that's something that my wife and I get a half hour going to get coffee. Like having 30 minutes where we can talk to one another, maybe there's some shit we got to work out.

Maybe there's a disagreement we got. And there's just, well, we don't want to argue for the baby. We don't want the baby around the baby. That's real. Creating those times. And at first, you almost feel selfish. You're like, why am I trying to create time with me and my wife when we have a baby? We should be spending every single second with the baby. But you realize that maybe that's the most important thing for that baby. If things are great between us, everything's good. And if they're not good between us, they are in a really difficult situation.

If something nobody will prepare you for, nobody talks about it.

Like nobody tells you right before you have a kid. By the way, your relationship is gonna completely change the dynamic, the how you guys spend time, and you need to be ready for that change and do everything that you need to make sure that you're both getting what you need from each other within that change. It's a whole extra prioritization too, cause you're like, initially it's like I'm just, you know, I'm already juggling work and these other ideas I have and ambitions and dreams and hobbies with my wife. Now I'm juggling, and then it's easy to lump them together. Oh, it's my wife and kid.

and I had to learn fast, like it's not. That is one thing with me and my wife are a separate thing, and this is where it gets deeper when they get older, and me and my kid are a separate thing too, because then you'll fall guilty sometimes, be like, oh, I've got it great, I got the wife and kid, and then I got the wife. It's like, well, no, you still got to go sit down and be just a dad too. Yeah, like you still got to go put in that just her time too. You need to. Just her time, it's important for growth. I mean, sneaking away, getting them dinners, going on those things, they're important, equally important. Once a year, go blow it out, be fucking irresponsible.

It's been such an important thing for me. There's that thing on Instagram that like everybody's been, every male friend group has been forwarding to one another and none of us have been forwarding to our wives. But it was like, study says that men need two nights out a week with the boys. Have you ever seen that pop up on your Instagram? No, it's my algorithm doing it. Girls in control of it. But like,

I don't know what the exact number is. Obviously, we're very lucky we get to come here and shoot the shit and just have a lot of fun. But that is an important thing to communicate as well. That's a really hard thing to say the person you love more than anything in the world is, hey, I need to not be with you tonight. Sure. Yeah. You know what I mean? I think my wife was like, I just love spending time with you. And I was like, I also love spending time with me.

So I need to do this right now. I need about an hour with me. What you're feeling is what I'm feeling. I need that right now. Bunny quit drinking many years ago and everything I gave up, I'll still go out and tie one on every now and then. And I've cut it back immensely, but that's what Bunny does understand is that when I do have that later in me, Bunny is a lover for this because my wife stands. She'll be, she'll call it early. She'll be like, you might just need to find a night to go out. Like she'll start kind of pushing me like,

When have you done something? You know, go do something. So like, even like the other night when we're sitting around, it's my first night off and probably 17, 18 days. And she was like, you should go rest. I was like, Solstice had a comedy club. I get to catch him at a seller. And while we're here, I want to book, I don't want to bookmark it. I want you to let me get through this. Yeah. When I see you at the life tour.

I can tell you, beyond the shadow of a doubt, it's going to be one of the greatest hours of stand-up weathering winds. Oh, God bless you. It is his best hour after that. Thank you, bro. No, no, no. It's not about being your best hour. Yeah. Thank you. It is going to be one of the best hours ever. And I had a moment when you were at the cellar, because this is why I wanted to come see you, too. At a moment at the cellar, I was like, I've seen it at Nashville Comedy Fest in April. Yeah. The way y'all's business work is different than mine.

It's only getting better. It couldn't have gotten worse. The way y'all's business is you've only found. I've seen you working out little shit. I'm like, oh, he's still picking this thing fucking apart. And I've seen it fucking. You know what I mean? You can use this part or not if you don't want to. Even down to the name caught me off guard like.

I had flash shots. And when you announce the life tour and it's this silhouette of you, I have these flash shots of you in this 1964 and Paula doing, you know, at your first big LA theater show, right? I'm looking at like these Schultz moments and I'm like, Oh, I bet this is going to be, you know, I remember the plane Schultz and like, I just remember these errors of like, I wonder what this is going to be. So I went in expecting more of that.

and was like, get the fuck out of here. I was like, this dude's a fucking, this is brilliant. So many people, so much more than motherfuckers know you're that they know you're healed, but they still underestimate you. Thank you, man. That's what I say. It's his best hour given everything he's done for this to still be his best hour. I don't say that lightly. They're going to put, they're going to go ahead, Joan, this one, dog. Thank you, man. Thanks fucking special. So anyways, I tell my wife, I'm like, yo, she also said to sell her. Yeah. And she's like, Oh, fucking go. She immediately was like, because she knows I need that.

She's like, she knows how much I need to like, she knows how much y'all fill me up and how much I love comedy. And she's like, just go be somewhere where you fucking aren't you. That's a lot of confidence for her to say that too, like for her not to see that as a sense of rejection, like you don't want to be with her. And that takes time also, like that's maturity. You know, it's very easy, I think, to get caught up in many when we can get caught up in this feeling of like, oh, if my partner doesn't want to be with me, does that mean they don't like me? Am I not as fun as that other thing?

do they wanna be with someone else? Yeah, exactly. Or something else cooking, you're right. And now we both do it. And then instead of saying, hey, I'm hurt, we get upset at them or try to catch them and things, because it's way easier to be like, you're wrong than say I feel insecure. So it's, that's, I commend her for that. That's a very mature position. I'm telling you, and I was gonna go hang out with her. And she was like, she was like, no, go man, it's bunnies just, that's just where she's at. She's always encouraged, but she knows my heart too. She knows like, this dude's been fucking,

You know, like, because when I get to get in some situations, I don't have to be the dude. I just get to be with the dudes. You know what I'm saying? She knows how much I need that. You know what I mean? Like, you get to relax a little bit. That's interesting. I didn't think about it like that. Like everybody, when you're on tour and you're doing foul, you're doing all these different things. Everything is around your orbit. And then when you go hang out with some other guys that it's not related to your show or anything you're doing in your life,

And we're genuinely just friends. Yeah, everybody's just hanging. There's no longer this pressure, this expectation. Everybody waiting to see if it's time for you to go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then my connection always with y'all too, is that watching that we were all in clubs together and have built this thing in like a parallel path. So it's like now we're now we're just sitting being homies. We're dudes and now we're giving inside trader secrets right now. What's that? What's the deal on this? What's the deal on that? You know what I mean? Yeah. And you getting with Kells that night was special for me because I, um,

I wanted, I had a lot, multiple conversations with him where I was like, I have so many people that if they knew you were this charming would feel so differently about you. I was like, could you just humor me and just go show people this? And he was like, and I love him so much because he was so open to it. And it was so innocent because he was like, how?

And I was like, bub, man, cause you know, he had come up such a rock star way had been semi traditional media. Yeah. So he had never like, there wasn't a lot of opportunity to show personality. Like you're only seeing art and you're only seeing pictures. And then you spoke about that about even like through podcasting, like podcasting, you really get a sense of like who somebody is.

You can't come in here and fake it for two and a half hours. Two hours is a long time. Boy is on flagrant. I tell my people in Nashville that all the time. You can't go sit on Joe Rogan for two and a half hours and Joe not gets you to tell people who the fuck you are. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? It's just inevitable. You can't shoot where have I go do...

Mmm 12 a 12 minute clip for this particular show America or whatever. It's pretty easy to kind of you know, okay We don't really gotta really dig up into the yeah into the weeds here and a lot of artists avoid this because they know that it can only do us wrong We can only this is only risky for there's gonna be stories that come up

You're gonna share stories. That's fucking funny. You know what I mean? But if you are a magnetic personality, then it's a great platform. It's a great platform. That's what I tell, I'm like, yo, pub, just like, come on. I was like, and go somewhere you like, just go somewhere you're interested in because you dig what they do or somewhere you feel safe. Yeah. And then immediately he's like, your friends will flavor. Yeah. I was like, those are my boys. Yeah. And he was like, I gotta get with him. I was like, I'm gonna tell you how that works. Yeah. You're gonna have to meet them.

because they're dudes. I need to tell that Leo story. I'm not going to say anything else, but he told the story. Listen, man, that dude's got the best stories. We got to get him on his couch, man. He's fucking. So he had an interest in him. Like he's this young kid in Hollywood at the time where it's like him beeper and like a few other people going.

And like- You're going to piss? Yeah. Okay. I can't let him drink water. We can't let him drink water. There's a bucket in the corn. We're getting a piss, I got up and down. He was, and it was just like going, like that time where there are these young people in Hollywood just going crazy, the stories that came out of that were quite, quite entertaining.

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Kill the rich, bro. No, if he didn't have a child, if he didn't just have a child, I would say walk up to him on the street shooting the back of the head. What the fuck? He has a child. What the hell? What the hell? Different. Don't say that. Do that. God, this should not do that. I'll just give you the sort of bug that I didn't just know that he had a restaurant. Master bait in his food. What the hell?

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Get cracking now. Go to cracking.com slash flagrant or just scan the QR code on the screen. Start your crypto journey today. Don't follow Mark. I'm gonna get my cheeks cracked up. Let's get back to the show. All right guys, let's take a break for a second. Listen up, okay? New year, new dick.

How do you make it new? How do you make it good as new? Same act of greed and suicide, see how it's a Viagra, but this is the shoe, okay? This is the one, like 2025, you are gonna do your best work on. This is the one right here where the flag is gonna be full mass. Is there a T at the end of mass?

Mast. Mast. Yeah. I think. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah. Point is this. You guys are going to go out there and fuck. And ladies listening, you deserve to get the hardest dick possible. No noodles inside you. Uh-uh. No udon. You want some udon? You want some pad see you?

Stills rich. I'm running out of noodles. No pad time. You want spaghetti before it's in the boiling water. You want the hard stick. That's what you want. You want the thing you light up to make your house smell better. Incense?

It's like a branch. Yeah, the sage. Sage? Is that it? That's what the frat looks like. I feel like, yeah. Let me think of different things. It's sort of fragile. You want the trunk of a tree. Okay, yeah. You want something gertie like an avocado.

Well, I feel like tree was better. Yeah, go back a red one. Yeah, like a red one. Yeah, okay. You want that you want something in a forest Yeah, something they could make cookies inside of yeah Don't you want to pull your dick out and some girls like oh were you making cookies earlier? Yeah, yeah, is that where those elves were? Yeah, no matter fact this is just going to bludgeon you consensually what now?

It's so violent. Bludgeon seems like a large one. It seems like you're breaking into a castle. But this is an invitation. It's like a Trojan horse. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. I'm a Trojan horse if you're lucky. Hey, my boy. You see what we're doing over here. The point is this. Bluetooth.com. You're going to get your first month free. All you got to use is the promo code flavor. First month free. Why don't you just go do that? I mean, if $5 shipping, that's it. I don't have anything else to say.

Do you want one more metaphor? Yeah, just to mean to deserve it. Do you want that? They deserve it. Okay, what do you want your me to look like? What do you want it to look like? When you look down, what do you want to see? What do you want to see when you look down? Black. What? You're black dick? Yeah, it is for you. Yeah, you too.

Well, I think it'd be more concerning. I'd say maybe like necrosis or something like that. Like, it's possible there's a circulation. But if you got the size, you wouldn't go and talk to me. Yeah, there you go. No, yeah, probably not. No, no, no. If you did got black and then grew, you'd be like, ass, probably good. No, that's fair. If you just looked down one day and you had a black deck, yeah. Yeah, you're all going to feel great.

No, because I think it's... How do you be a little concerned? What if it's bigger, it's more girthiest to use the word art from our viewers? Yeah, in that case, that would be fun with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would do black. It's like the good Hodgkins. That's something else that we're judging, GK, because I think about this all the time for him.

I thank God I didn't burst on the scene at 25. Yeah. Because like the way I thought at 25 and would have projected myself into critical mass. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? It would have not favored me for sure. What I thought was cool though is like, because if you ask me a question, I'm going to give you a real answer. Yeah. And he was straight up. He was just like, yeah, so what do you think this is? And I was like, all right, well, these are my thoughts on it. And

That's heavy. If you're asking me to describe your perception, where your career is at, all these different things, I tell you honestly, and he was like, he was, he reflected on it. He's like, oh, wow, I can see that. A lot of people would fight.

for their perceived identity in that moment and be like, no, I disagree with you about these types of things. But he like, analyzing, he's like, Oh, okay, I could see why that might be like, I was kind of cool. Yes. He's so man, every conversation I've ever had with him, he's so even down to like this, I joke with you that night and I'm in, I'm like, I'm his publicist right now, Tophia, you know what I'm saying? I'm not here. Showing the world like this dude is so much

Even when we got back to circle back to the human M thing is like, that's why I see so much of them in each other. I just think that he was so young during all of that too. You know what I mean? Like even what he did to initially make him mad into the battle era of like, you know, man, that dude's got a

You know, like we're watching this new video with him and I'm getting choked up watching his daughter get married and announce a child. Yeah. But equally, I'm just with MGK at MGK Day in Cleveland. And he's got a 16 year old that's like already taking college classes. Crazy, right? Genius kid. He's like,

This dude flies every weekend from LA to go be a volleyball dad. You know what I mean? Like every week. And I'm like, if people knew that about you, besides this picture, if you wearing this fucking wild outfit, you know what I'm saying? Like it would be such a I.

I know how fast it made my shift of you. Yeah. You know what I mean? Whenever I'm talking to you and I'm seeing the consistency, I'm like, well, yeah, he's like, on my way to Cleveland. I'm like, damn, is he volleyball again this weekend? He was like every weekend dog for 28. He quit. He took a year off of touring. Yeah. Tens of millions of dollars. Like, nah, man, it's going to be like one of the last years, like a watcher play. Yeah. Like that's the kind of duty is it like where his spirits at, right? And that's the thing that comes out when you, you know, share your personal life, but it's scary to share your personal life, too. Super. Especially when, you know, I imagine like there's certain people in the industry that have

Their idea of like crafting a rock star is a very specific certain thing. Right. And they're like, no, we have to keep you as mysterious and weird and all this other stuff. And he might be like, okay, well, yeah, I like doing rock and I like dressing weird, but I also like going to volleyball games with my daughter. And that's often more relatable than the mystery. I think he like grew up in Egypt too or something like, doesn't he have like Christian missionary parents or something like that?

I don't know his mother's like a Viking or something like that. That's why you got all the blacks. I swear, man. Like super. It's a crazy story. That's why you got all that blackout shit tattooed on. It was great. Told me one night the full story, but it was really hot.

I don't want to butcher that story completely. That's the last time you tied one on. What was the last time you really went for it? Um, SNL. Oh, really? Of course. It was the late night. We came out of a burlesque bar at eight o'clock in the morning with posting M.G.K. Literally the box or something like that. Oh, you went super awesome. Of course. Like I plapped. Dude, listen, y'all. I'm from any activity, dude. I played on Saturday Night Live.

fucking absurd that is like when you really start rapping like if you I tell people they know that I'm a criminal by my history and I talk about it openly but if you just like seen it on a sheet of paper and then said that guy played on Saturday night like get the fuck out

I listened to this sports station in Dallas. I always talk about it, but they said you, you performed at a cafe in a radio station. When I say cafe, I mean two vending machines, some small tables. I don't even know. The 99 five, the wolf, I think is there in Dallas. I don't know how long ago that was. I, I can't even, I don't even understand that part of your life.

What is that Johnny Light for you? What do you reflect on like that moment? Yeah, for sure. That was just a few years ago, too, man. I was just me going to radio and just trying to be like, yo, man, this is my record. I just would be honored to be all take a chance to hear it. I was just like telling my story. You know what I mean? But even the early dude, we played bars for

When you see my show in Dovela Test for this, it reeks of a man who's done a thousand. You know what I mean? Like, does it make sense? Like, I kind of, I jumped with Schultz when I was like, have you ever had a shit on stage? But I knew that he's done enough shows that there was a story there. There's no way you've stood on that many stages. And the bubble guts haven't hit you to the point of being like, I gotta get the fuck off here. You know what I mean? There's a difference between people who

have had like years on the road, especially with comics, and then comics do like kind of blow up quick. And they can be funny that comics have blow up quick, but there's different chops on stage. And I imagine the same thing is probably multiplied by 10 when it comes to bands or it comes to music. Like there is no replacement for a decade of shitty shows because that is going to put you in every scenario possible. Dude, it's

The TikTok era, oh man, this is good shows, has done this so much because these kids will blow up and be able to sell 2,000 tickets but have never done a single show in their life. Yeah. I mean, you saw it with- For 3,000 or 5,000. With all the respect like you saw with IceBice in our earlier shows, like here's this girl that goes from not doing anything to these like massive shows, is she had to learn how to perform?

out of the form of the world. Like she had to, and imagine how scary that is. You go from wrapping in some random studio to having 10,000 people in front of you. And you're just like, fuck, it's not just saying the words anymore. I got to dance. I got to have charisma. It's a different game. It is a totally different game.

also about them getting honest booking agents. I'm watching this Aaron Hernandez thing on the FX right now. And it was so interesting when he's meeting with his agents. Have y'all seen it? Yeah. I've heard it's pretty bad. They say that about all the FX shows like it. But I'm so into the story. I watch. I would watch.

animation of whatever happened to that story is crazy to me. I've watched everything you can about it. But it was interesting. I never seen the side of him meeting with the agents. And rather it's true or not, it reminded me of the TikTok era, because all these agents are coming in and they're like, you're a first round draft pick, you're a superstar. And then one agent comes in and goes,

You're going to be lucky if we get you picked in the third. Oh, wow. And he's like, I've already picked my guy. Get out of here. He said, I will. But if they told you what's happening at the combine and he just kind of starts leaning in like they didn't tell you got to answer questions for three hours today. They didn't tell you that all 52 teams get to ask you questions for three hours apiece.

Did they tell you this and he's going? He said, yeah, that's cause I'm other agents are lying to you. Call you when you call me when you realize what's really going on. So he ends up picking that guy though. But it's like, that's happening in the TikTok world. Cause someday just going in with their mom and dad, sometimes he's Tiktokers, right? And this agent's going, I can get y'all making $20,000 a show right now. We're going to go right into theaters. We're going to do it. And then they go meet another eight, another booking agent who's the right guy who goes, look,

I think we need to go play this like 300 cap room circuit. Let's go do like 40 of these. Just get her familiar with standing on stages and looking at people and we'll put her in theaters in the spring, slowly next spring. We'll ramp her up and we'll put her on an amphitheater tour in three years with somebody.

And they're like, fuck you. And they go to the agent to put some in front of 2,000 people. And they go out and fucking blow it. And it sucks. And everybody reviews it. And the internet and all their TikTok fans review it, start arguing with each other about how bad the show is. I see it happen in my business all the time. You know what I mean? And the ones who do it right are the ones who go out of Jesse Mirth, the one I do wild ones with. Example of doing it right. She could have came out the gate selling thousands of tickets.

Man, they sent that girl over to Australia. They sent her to the UK to do clubs. They said, they, I think, I mean, they had her going to do in abroad shows before she was doing big domestic shows. Like we're going to go figure it out. You know, like it was get your chops over there. And that also shows how smart she was. Yeah. But she was in no rush. She was just like, yeah, I know, I know what I love about Jesse is. She's like my little sister. She's so confident in what she does. Yeah. She's like, I'm here. Yeah. I just needed somebody to see I could do this. I'm going to do this forever.

Yeah. That's how she thinks. So she wasn't in a rush. You know what I mean? She really cut her teeth. And even then, just when she comes out with me at MSG, after that night, I'm like, I tell my wife, I'm like, is that not a different person from even just who came out with me at Jingle Ball MSG last year? Yeah. She's like a completely different person. I was like, just watching her, you know, she'll be in arenas probably next year if I had to guess. At least the amplifiers.

Can I say just about his show without spoiling like what the show entails? One thing I'll say, and I was involved at the show, it's a stadium show in an arena, which I think the last time I made that comment was when we saw like Travis Scott. But just in terms of using the whole room where I'm like, you'll be at MetLife doing this same thing where there's

multiple stages. There's there's the runway that you're on. And I'm like, this guy is using it. And it's not only that. We've seen enough shows at MSG. Now we can compare. It's you could just play up against that end stage and you're just seeing a concert. You're blocking like meaning like you're the positioning that he's going between songs. And when he's moving around these runways to the audience, like the entire arena is changed. His production is changing. Things are lowering the skull. Everything was just so perfectly planned that you're like,

This guy's done this for years, and he wouldn't waste, like, to do that level of production. You can't cheat that. Like, that's something where we can now keep on adding it. You're probably part of the production. You told us how many trucks you have coming into that. But that show, if anyone could see this on the road, Spectacular. And you need to give everything away, but let me give everything. You think you're all in store, we'll come with everything. But you could tell who came out.

This is, oh yeah, no, M.G.K. came out. Bus of Bus. Bus of Bus. Bus of Bus came out. Bus of Bus came out. Bus of Bus came out. Bus of Bus came out. Bus of Bus. And he can perform his ass off, dude. Listen, man. I have a rule that I don't watch a performer without stealing something.

It's my personal rule. The good one's parl, the great one's steel. That's my rule. If I come see you, stole something from you the other night, it's what I do. I'm watching him stealing. I love it. And the bus was on my stage for four minutes and I stole something. That's how good he was. Four minutes. Four minutes. His opening was so old school hip-hop.

It was like, so I set it up. My show is really, I'm telling a story, but I'm telling two stories, right? But they're the same story in the end, the story of music, the story of the therapy of music and how we all grew up listening to different kind of music. And I do this by like playing my music and then out though, covers in there to show the crowd like, oh, you don't think you know country music, but

And then I have a trick where I'm like, you don't think you listen to hip-hop, but I do it in the form of a story, which I'll tell you off camera because I want you to punch it up. But I set it up and I set the story, you heard me set the story up, and I'm like, yeah, and I grew up listening, I've got my New York, so I'm playing to it. I grew up listening to 50 Cent, which I did. I grew up listening to Jay Z.

I grew up listening to Big L. I grew up listening to shit like, and then bus comes out, right? And it comes out and it's like one of them hip hop like, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah

And I'm like, that's why this dude is one of the greatest performers in hip-hop history life. Man, what song did he come out to? Fuck, I don't remember the first record. It went in to break your neck. Oh, y'all, y'all, y'all.

He did like a three minute. It was so hard to keep. He did a three minute medley of all the hits. He did four, four minute medley. And I think I heard a piece of every one of his hits. It was crazy. I didn't even put in the past the Kavasiade, but just the musical part as an interlude into another big one. So it didn't even come in. It was just that deal. No, no, no, no. Don't this hit make my people want it. And it was just so. And I was just like,

Man, what a way to go. Dude, we were broke when I first went to LA, so we would just go see rappers at like the late night shows, like Conan or Carson or whatever the fuck Conan film like it's in New York, but we saw him like Carson Daily or something. The room is half full. He comes out fucking destroys in a way. I've been to rap concerts. I haven't seen anything like this outside of Travis Scott, and I was everybody, and then one girl walked out and she was like, man, I saw him at the House of Blues.

Bottles were literally shaking on the bar just from how much everybody was jumping like he was he's crazy Performing you have no clue how it comes to the shows that like it blew your mind like your manager was like by the way jelly This person's gonna be in attendance tonight. That's great question. What the fuck? That's a good one. I don't think nobody that I didn't see coming like as far as like, you know Everybody I'd already kind of built a relationship with so nobody kind of surprised me But I'm still surprised anytime anybody comes about you

You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm still like, oh, y'all know I do this. But I think any time an athlete comes out, it's always a little different for us, because there's a lot of synergy with me and y'all, a lot of synergy with anything on this side of art. But I don't have as much synergy on that side. You know what I mean? So I still get excited every time Jimmy Butler posts one of my songs. The kid at me is just like, it's fucking crazy. It's mostly like once a month. You know what I mean? It still doesn't get any less exciting.

you know, that kind of stuff. So like a couple of actors that are starting to kind of come around to what I do. It's been cool. But it's been, it's been pretty cool. I think even like bus agreeing to come sing with me was really, really special. Uh, even post you gave like his own section of the show, like he had his songs and the ones he has with you, right? Yeah, we did our song. And then we did a, yeah, no, we did a country song and then we didn't want to hear it. I love post man. That post is another one I'd love to have on this couch. Dude, he'll do it.

Yeah, I put you on the text tonight. Yeah, let's do that. I got to talk about it being a cowboy thing. That's a, that's a, that's a done, that's the easiest connection I'll ever make. That dude is the most people in Nashville go jelly rolls one of the nicest guys ever until they meet Post Malone. It's kind of an asshole. He was really sweet. When we did crypto, he pulled up and he, and he did a few songs. It was pretty awesome. It's just his fucking personality, dude. That dude is fucking, he don't

He is like, he don't care is what makes him special. Like we're backstage and I still play like it to bar. I know it's an arena, but man, me and Post didn't talk about what we were doing until 20 minutes for a show. We have one conversation about that.

And I'm like, yo, what about like, let's do this cover. He's like, Oh, I was like, first thing I said, when I see him in the hall, I'm like, you cool with just fucking around. He's like, yeah, I was like, I'll see you later. Then right then I knew what nothing to worry about. I was like, I'll just go talk to this dude later. And, uh, and I went, I was just like, yo, let's just go fuck around. Let's do this cover and do this. And I was like, if I end up wanting to keep you out for this record where you stay, he was like, yeah, I'll stay. And sure enough, I was like, fuck, we got to do this record. It's this second biggest song in the world right now.

that I had some help with him in Morgan. I was like, I can't have you at this show, and I had my own second biggest song in the world right now. Don't do it. You know what I mean? He's like, you'll do Morgan's part. I was like, hell no. I was like, I'll butcher it. I'll do the hook and bridge. He was like, all right, cool. That's fire. Do you have any insight or opinion on the whole drama with Beyonce, not getting nominated for any country awards? Man, this is a slippery slope, too. And I'll hang here with you, because I'm willing to with my friends.

Uh, I think that the body of art was incredible. There's no denying that like always take, take all politics out of it before we talk about those. What did the art actually say? Was it good? Right? And the record was good. Um,

I don't know if it was Beyonce's best record. You know what I mean? It didn't make me feel the way even Renaissance made me feel as a full body of work. But there was two or three songs on there that I thought could be Country Song of the Year for sure. What she did with Jolene alone to me could have been, was just unbelievable. You know, and how much Dolly loved it. To me, that's the real tale, right? If Dolly loves it, it's a big deal. So my argument starts with the art. My argument is, yeah, I think she should be nominated because the art was worthy of being nominated.

The flip side of the argument, this is my argument, so I don't want to get crucified or nailed to this cross, is that Nashville is a small community that is trying to keep country music as a boundary list to genre. And I know boundary list seems like that's the opposite of not putting

Beyonce in it, but meaning like they never allowed country to get put in sub genres like Rock did. So like they've kind of like country is one of the last genres left that you could just say there's a country music concert happening and a certain group of people would still just show up.

You know what I mean? Like it don't really matter. It's like, you know what I mean? Like, you could say there's a pop concert happening and somebody's going, who's going to be there? They can say, hey, man, there's a country concert happening down the street and people will kind of just blindly go based on the consistency of country music. That's being ran by the town of Nashville, my city, where I'm from, but this is being ran from the industry. It's like how, you know, like all the record labels are in New York for hip hop, all of them are for pop in LA or, you know, how it used to be, whatever. Now it's kind of everywhere, but

These people looked at it, the people who are the 20,000 registered, 30,000 registered voters. Like the Grammys only has that many voters or 60,000 or something, 100,000, whatever it is, right? These people that are in that, look, they are only really hip to what's happening in Nashville. Right? So it's not as malicious as one thinks. It's not like, in my mind, from what I know of these people, the few, I don't know all 16,000 of the voters, neither, right? Or I'd fucking win more.

It's like, the ones I know are just more like, they just missed it. Because to them it was more of like a, you know, it was a big TikTok moment, the Texas Holdums song. You know, we're like, in country music, there's, you know, we have, there's three award shows, bare minimum, four really now, a year that really mattered, like to us as a community, like the ACMs, which is the Academy of Country Musics.

The CMA's, which is the biggest night of country music. This is the one that's coming up. It's the Country Music Association. I won the best new artist last year. Yeah, that was the speech. That was awesome. That was that speech. That is the one, though. That's like, that's a really big deal. I'm nominated for Entertainer of the Year this year. This is a huge, huge honor. Congrats, my god.

For some of these people, I think they just didn't see the visibility of the album. Not that the album wasn't huge and it wasn't impactful or a great piece of art. They just didn't see the visibility of it. She didn't tour it. It wasn't like Morgan Wall in his life out here selling out three stadiums tonight, like Beyonce did for Renaissance. Now, I had the same campaign happen for Renaissance that happened with this album. I would have stood up and been like, this is wrong.

You know what I mean? But like to them, it was more of like in a clip. And this is, I'm not, I can't speak for all 16,000. And this isn't how I feel. Just what I've heard is like to them, it just felt like an eclectic art piece to try to broaden the horizons of the space. And they felt like that a nod that's even bigger, some people in this town feel like what's even bigger than given her a nod was that Shibuzi broke by being on her album. And he's up for best new artists of the year and looking like a winner.

Yeah. And he's having a huge year of country radio and a huge year at all the country award shows and like he's in Nashville in the community writing. But he's a fan of the culture. Yeah, he loves the culture of Nashville. Whereas Beyonce is a little bit more of an outsider. And I'm not saying I don't think that makes it right that she wasn't nominated.

Yeah. I want to colonize it as well. Thank you so much. I get that. But I'm giving you. I don't want to be the guy using the art form. And yeah, I got you a Kardashian. Got it. Got it. Wow. Got it. I got it. Did you know what I'm saying?

I wouldn't say any of those things. I think I should really challenge it on. I love lemonade. But it is, you know, I get it. These are the tough things that you gotta, you gotta. No, I get it because it's the same in the film world and the academy. Nobody asks. I'm trying to go, go, go. It's the same thing that applies, like why people see like the nominations. There's 10,000 people in the academy and like,

I would guess what percentage of that's like over 60. That's just been focused on what Hollywood gives you, what wins at some of the film festival. So you have to think it was coming from the outside. Yeah, I wasn't upset when I lost the Grammy this year because I knew that to the Grammy audience, I was new.

Right. So a lot of these people didn't know I was a human to see me on the bill. Yeah. And then they could see me at the best new artists like performance and then they see me in the building and they felt my spirit. And now I feel like next year I might have a better job. I feel like every year I'm building a better chance towards it.

There might have also been a perception where it's like, if you're the size and success story, just a magnitude of Beyonce and you pick any other genre to create music and you're also like one of the most talented human beings ever, you pick any other genre, it's gonna be popular. Like if she decides to do techno, it's gonna be a number one. Like whatever genre she decides to do it. So maybe there's that feeling where it's like,

Anybody that big that decides to country is going to have the number one album, they have to be embedded in the culture and really invest time in the culture to be considered like one of these. Was it really impactful or was it just Beyonce dropping an album? Because she's at the size where she can't be avoided. Like if she decides to put out a rap album, number one, like anything she puts out. I've said this a minute then. I was on record early about this. I'm glad it stood the test of time.

I, of course, obviously, and there's going to be country music failure, but I'm like, you wasn't welcome here. But it's like, I was so glad she was here. I welcomed her with open arms. Like, I was like, I think it's great for country. Same thing I felt about post. Yeah, it's great for country. You know how hard it was to get people to, like, especially in the world of music, people would just fly right over Nashville to Memphis.

Just didn't even think about it. Whether it was hip-hop, blues, soul, anything Memphis had all the culture. I mean, Nashville just frog jumped over. Anything that was like country music and self-country culture, like what Beyonce did for fucking cowboy hat sales is unheard of. But no, don't listen, man. It's a true story. I went to the, there's a, right there on Sunset.

I wish I could remember his name. My boy, Miles, I was with me that night. He's a cowboy for really ranch horses, my dude that you thought looked like the crud guy. He went to this shop and it's like an old school famous spot on Sunset that sells leather belts, leather hats. It's like an old cowboy store, right? Their own sunset. And he went in there and the guy says, he's known the guy forever. The guy's been in the store 20, 30 years, something. He goes, how's business? He goes, better than ever. He goes, really? What's happening? He said, two things, Morgan, Wall, and then Beyonce.

Literally, that's exactly like, and this is an old man's perspective who probably, you know what, doesn't know what's going on in the world. He just knows that a lot more motherfucker son of his door in the last well months. Do you remember who's doing? Run DMC and Aerosmith did walk this way. Like that's a.

What's that? No, and then Dita's sales star. And Dita's things were crazy, but also just it's a great moment for hip hop. It's also a great moment for rock, but this is the time of rock was the dominant form. And then you do a song with this new up and coming exciting genre of music. And it's a smash fucking hit. You don't think that that's going to help run DMC? Now, I'm not saying that country isn't.

Absolutely. It's probably the most popular right now. But when you take one of the most popular artists of all time, and she decides to embrace the genre, that's great for the genre. Huge. And I think she should have been nominated for that alone. Yeah. You know what I mean? And that's why I say it. But I get, I know how Nashville looked. I think Nashville just missed it. I don't think it was malicious. That's what I will say. I think it was malicious and like,

They missed it. Like, unjust. You know, like, yeah, like, y'all kind of, you know, I mean, but I don't think they missed it. Like, I don't think it was a turn or back to them. Her thing. And I think what she did and her impact is already being proven. Do you see like the politics of Nashville changing now that country become like the dominant art form? Like are people trying to like buy streams like within Nashville in a way that you haven't seen in the past? Like has the business corrupted? No, no, no. I think it's what's just expanded. The business of Nashville just gotten bigger.

with artists like Beyonce, artists like Post. Now Post came to Nashville and did the whole Nashville thing. The city just, I think he spent that whole album. I spent two or three months there working on my record. But you just see the business of Nashville getting bigger, man. What I love about it is seeing country getting mainstream moments. Like when I was on Em's album, that was huge for us as a genre. Cause like for so many years, we like,

I'll never forget when TI got on Branley Gilbert's Bottoms Up remix. And I was like, this was 2006. And I was like, no fucking way. Oh, rap people, no country people or country. You know what I mean? Like it was like, no way. So for that to have went from that to me being on M's album, Morgan being on Dirk's album, Morgan being on Moneybag Yo's records. You know what I'm saying? These are the crossovers that are like, I think, or super

cool. Like whenever I see Laney go rock with a pop girl. You know what I'm saying? I'm just like kick ass, Laney kick ass. What's that wagon like in person? You asked me that the last time. Two years later. Yeah. We need to see that before the Ozepic gets a Nashville. Because that thing looked cool.

There's like a few images of it where it just looks absurd. Like to see her ship backstage. Obviously it's like that was one of the cheetah print pants. It's so funny. Did it happen to me?

You know what I love about y'all and about pop culture is that's two years old and as soon as I brought up Lady Wilson's name, both of y'all were like, what's up with the wagon? She talks to me about the thing. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, she got new ones, too. No, she don't got new ones. She's impossible. Miles has been having a question for an hour. What do you want to ask, Miles? Upcoming country artists that you find right now that you're like, that's the next big one. I mean, Mark, this year, listened to a lot of red clay strays. Oh, yeah. Oh, I met those guys the other day. You're really awesome. Where's the seller?

The big comedy fans shot red clay strays, man. They're awesome. And they're like, great, great hang. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. They're huge. I love the, uh, they're living in Alabama. Treaty Oak Revival is another one. Okay. Yeah. I'm trying to see you to put on the, on the spot. If you like the red clay strays, you'll love Treaty Oak Revival. They're real fun. Their shows are super fun and rowdy. It's kind of got that red clay straight vibe. Teske brothers. Um, that and her. Yeah. Oh, they're awesome. Oh, you're going to love that. Uh, there's this kid. I wouldn't say he's

What about without a Malone black? Never heard of Malone black. Malone black is freaking serious. Are y'all fucking with me? No, Malone black. I'm getting my control. Tell me about Malone black. Malone black is one of the greatest country I've ever seen all the time. You like a... You don't know that I'm a Malone black? Who? Shut up, Dove. You're my lone black dick in your mouth.

You're pity who really. There compliment. Anyway, I want to know who else who else who else. Zach top. Zach top. You're just cute. I sleep like a baby. Oh, yeah. I never showed up late. No, it was kid. Did Marlowe. That seems cool. Who Dylan Marlowe? I love Dylan Marlowe. Yeah, he's on. I love Dylan Marlowe. So listen, he's got a brother. There's two of them. It's a Dylan and a Cameron. Okay.

And I always get in trouble for this and I still, I double down on it every time and I'm a dumbass. One of them is handsome and one of them can sing. So you answer me this question. Is Dylan Marlow handsome? Tell the truth. Yeah, he's handsome. I look like a singer. It sounds like he could sing good. It sounds like he's singing. Yeah. Okay. So these not the. I haven't seen the brother. Okay. No, no, no, he is the handsome one. You're right. Yeah. Now look up camera Marlow.

So he got looks and he could sing the other ones. And I don't know that they're candy each other, by the way. Oh, this guy, this guy's handsome. No, no, you said that's the one that's the one I can see. And I'm not saying the other guy, first of all, I know both and they're both awesome. Cameron and Dylan are great. I do confuse them, and I'm sorry. By smoke pot.

But I can name both of their songs right now, because he's got that here to the boys. That dude's right, he's a hit. He's a kid's gonna be a hit. Dylan is Cameron is the other Marlowe, and he's just got a really big. Cameron's a good singer, but this kid has got a different like, we're all singers, and we know who the singers are. He's one of the singers. Does that make sense? Like, you know, we know who the singers are. This dude is

That's cool. Now, but camera camera's got hits though. That dude that dude's a great writer, but follow this guy too by follow both Marlowes. They're great. Jelly, I want to say I'm so proud of you. I'm so grateful to have you as a friend and I just cannot wait to see you go even crazier and bigger. And, you know, we're going to be along for the ride, man. So we'll see you at stage coach, but we'll also see you, you know, fulfilling all your dreams. It's been awesome to be here to watch it. God bless you, my brother.

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