Ilana Glazer asks about God
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January 28, 2025
TLDR: Ilana Glazer discusses a higher power with Handsome podcasters Tig Notaro, Mae Martin, and Fortune Feimster; Handsome hosts the Oscars; Mae's dance moves and Tig's 'morning fruit' song featured.

In this insightful and humorous episode of the Handsome podcast, hosts Tig Notaro, Mae Martin, and Fortune Feimster engage in a deep conversation with guest Ilana Glazer, known for her work on Broad City and Babes. The discussion centers around spirituality, belief in God, and the complex relationship between religion and personal experiences.
Key Highlights
- The Essence of Belief: Glazer poses a question that gets everyone thinking: "Do you believe in God?" The conversation explores different interpretations of God, especially from a more personal perspective rather than traditional religious views.
- Spirituality and Science: The discussion shifts to how spirituality intertwines with scientific understanding. Participants share thoughts on how the complexities of life can sometimes lead to a belief in a higher power.
- Personal Experiences: Each host shares their personal journey regarding spirituality and religion:
- Fortune reflects on the hypocrisy often found in religious circles, discussing her desire for a personal relationship with God.
- Tig presents her agnostic views, contemplating the science behind belief.
- Mae shares thoughts about new age spirituality and how that connects to a belief in energies rather than the traditional understanding of God.
Expert Opinions
- Ilana Glazer's Perspective: Glazer articulates a view of God as a spiritual force present in life itself. She believes that the essence of humanity, such as moments of laughter and joy, embodies a divine presence.
- Hypocrisy in Religion: The discussion highlights frustrations around the use of religion as a weapon, citing how dogma can sometimes lead to division rather than unity.
Practical Applications
- Finding Personal Beliefs: The hosts encourage listeners to reflect on their own beliefs and consider how they identify with concepts like God or spirituality.
- Community and Connection: The importance of community in religion is recognized, albeit with an acknowledgment of the complications it can bring, especially for queer individuals.
Memorable Moments
- Humorous Anecdotes: The hosts share amusing stories from their past, intertwining laughter with deeper spiritual reflections. The light-hearted banter lends a unique charm to the otherwise heavy topic.
- Cultural References: Throughout the podcast, references are made to pop culture phenomena, such as the Oscars and John Travolta, adding a relatable layer to the conversation and grounding the spiritual discussion in everyday life.
Conclusion
This episode not only entertains but also prompts listeners to ask themselves crucial questions about belief, spirituality, and their personal paths. The humor and camaraderie between the hosts create an inviting atmosphere for exploring profound topics. Whether you identify as religious, spiritual, or somewhere in between, this engaging discussion encourages introspection and connection.
Listeners' Takeaway: Tune into this episode for a mix of laughs and meaningful dialogue about spirituality, with diverse insights that resonate across different belief systems.
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Welcome to the answer pod. I'm Fortune Beanster. I'm your co-host, Tig Notaro. And I'm Fortune and Tig's co-host, Mae Martin. You guys. Another early morning app for us. I know. I was awoken at 6 a.m. this morning by the agony of a Charlie horse in my calf.
Oh, those are a good time. I haven't had so long. You lucky dog. It was, I was just like, it is the weirdest problem to get. And I was telling Stephanie once that I would love to see somebody get a Charlie Horace.
when they're going up to accept an Oscar. Oh my god, just holding their calf. Yeah, we're walking down the aisle to get married and they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I like to sing. I just like kind of stretched, I guess, and then it was like, isn't it supposed to be low potassium?
Is it dehydration? It feels like your muscle just turns to concrete for a second. It's so weird. I don't like that kind of horse. Were you screaming? No, because I was trying not to jacks up. I was just smiling, holding myself.
Braced up like. Or what if you were having a one night. Stand. Yeah. God. I'm so out of that loop. Like what is it one night?
Yeah, you're like lying in bed with somebody and then you're just like, love thinking of an awkward, Charlie Horst moment. It sucks. And then it looked like I finally got it to go down and then either just lay there and then kind of move my leg and it came back and I was like, no, no, that's the worst. I just picture it with like metal teeth just clamping on to you. Yeah.
That's the worst. Do you get back to sleep after that? Yeah, I passed out. When I woke up, I was limping. Oh, man. Wow, it really took you down. It took me down. I'm going to have to eat more edible arrangements. Edible arrangements? Are you already eating a good amount? Wait, what's an edible arrangement? It's the fruit. People send people fruit baskets that are dipped in chocolate.
Well, and also aren't they in a bouquet of flowers? I know it's supposed to look like bouquet of flowers, but it's fruit.
That's how you eat fruit is your order. I'm kidding. I'm going along with your bitch. I did have a little, have you ever seen those little baby apples? They're like, oh, it's big. Yeah. I ate one of those last night and I was like, my fruit for the day. Did I tell you this song I wrote for Max and Finn? Oh no. And they sing it in the morning.
Don't forget to have your mornin' fruit. Your mornin' fruit. I feel like there might be a little more to the song, but I was gonna wait a minute. There's gotta be more.
My dad used to sing every morning, and he'd go, I'm a banana. I'm a banana. And then I'd get kind of anxious because I knew this part was coming. I'm a banana, banana, banana. And then he'd like freeze on banana and he'd like stop moving in the kitchen, like frozen. And I'd go up to him and then go like a frozen banana, like a frozen banana. Yeah, it was exciting. And he made this up.
I think this was an original of his, yeah, and he'd kind of hold the bananas and make them his ears. Now, do you know, I don't know what accent I'm singing. Margaret. Here, Margaret. That's Scottish. Yeah, that's like, is it good? Yeah, it's like a good, it sounds like Shrek.
Yeah. Well, when I am talking to Stephanie in the Marnins, you know, I can hear Max and Finn in the background singing that they're having their Marnin, Fred. I have to find out what the rest of the words are of my original tune. Please.
I like how you're saying I have to find out like you could ask someone someone else. I do. I have to ask Stephanie and Max and Finn because I wrote the song. I got it in everyone's head and then I left for Toronto. I forgot the song. That's what I was doing when I was telling them don't forget to eat your morning fruit when I'm gone. Like I tried to like.
come up with a little catchy tune and then, you know what, it worked. That's how I think of my dad when in my childhood was singing in the morning and making breakfast. Really? Yeah. Me too. That was like a big part of it. Would he, was he the one that would take you to school and stuff?
Um, they would switch off. Sometimes it was him. Sometimes my grandmother, sometimes my mom, it took a village, but they divorced when I was 12. So my memories are very like sporadic, but I just remember some singing when he woke us up and then making scrambled eggs.
I remember that my dad used to pronounce Titanic Titanic just to make me laugh, and I thought that was the funniest joke I'd ever heard. I was like eight years old, and I was like, I blew my mind because I was like, that's not how you say it. And he was like, I know I'm joking. He'd say, the Titanic. I don't know why we were talking about Titanic all the time, but I don't know. I saw that musical tea technique.
Oh, yes. Yeah. What is that? I don't know if it's still going or not, but it was in New York and it was a play about the Titanic with Celine Dion as the narrator. Oh, and she referred. She called the Titanic the T technique.
Guys, I saw Cheryl Lee Ralph last night. Oh, yeah. Yeah, friend of the pot. Well, I didn't speak to her, but I saw her at the out 100 awards or... Oh, okay. Yeah, she was getting like ally of the year, and she made a rousing speech that was so... She's like an orator, like I wanted to elect her president, and then she did this beautiful speech, and I really liked she ended the speech by going, I am Cheryl Lee Ralph, good night.
Wait, were you nominated or did you win something or what was going on? No, I just was invited. Just an invitation. Just an invitation. Anyway, I really like the idea of ending a speech. I am a Martin. Good night. I am a Martin. A stand-up set like that.
But a lot of comedians will say, I have been, and then say their name, and then leave stage, which I've never done that. I've never done that either.
Actually, you know what I used to always end my sets with when I first started the first few years. I'd say, anyway, my name's Tig and then I'd walk on stage. Anyway, anyway, whatever that was. Anyway, my name's Tig and then I'd wander off the stage and I had this idea where I'd love to grab just
show after show ending of me saying, anyway, my name's tick. Anyway, my name's tick. Just back to back a little montage of it all. Because it took me a while to realize that I was saying that. And I think I was saying it even at a point where people were buying tickets to see me. Like it didn't make sense for me to be like, anyway, my name's tick. That's funny. I've been is funny to me. Well, I've been blah, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah. It's a past tense thing. I'm no longer. Yes, I'm moving on now. I like when Shirley wins awards because her award acceptance speeches are so phenomenal. It was a big crowded room. It wasn't a sit down thing. Nobody could hold the crowd's attention. This is also a bunch of drunk gay people. It's like herding cat.
But when Cheryl Lee Ralph, everyone went silent and was listening, and then a lot of fans of the pod came up to me because they were serving nuggets at the event. Nuggets. They were serving chicken nuggets. What is nuggets? Oh, chicken nuggets. I said, okay. That's fun. They were like, we were big fans of the pod, but you're not one of our 100 gays. You're not one of the 100.
But people coming up to me and being like, oh, you must be excited. And I was like, oh, should I? And they were like, the nuggets. And I was like, what? And I realized, like, everyone knew this about me that I love bread and chicken from talking about it on the pod. That's so funny. Yeah. Sometimes you forget what you share. Oh, my God. You even know that about me. Yeah, I know. It's so confusing. But it also happens to me when I write when I get off stage, which I think we've talked about how right when you go.
right when I get off people be like, oh my god, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, what? Yeah, you said that on stage. Did I? You know, like your brain kind of goes into a different dimension. Yeah. Yeah.
Mayor, are you back doing your back doing stand up? Yeah. I'm loving doing improv right now, but I need to start doing more sets. I do a couple of months at Largo, but I need to push myself, I think, and figure out what I'm. Yeah, because what have I got? Nothing, really. I've got some stuff about how I feel like I have the memory of holding a live chicken, but I don't think I've ever held a live chicken.
You know what I mean? It's all a little weird and existential. And then I got the bear story, of course, but you know, and some childhood. Well, maybe you've seen somebody hold a live chicken. I must have, but it's like, I know the feeling of like the greasy feathers, the heart pounding, the scratchy little feet. I can feel it, but I don't think I've ever held a lot of chicken. So maybe in a past life. Well, you are a little cowboy. So you might have had a ranch.
Wait a second, yeah, you're right. You're right. Past life, ranch owner. Ranch hand. I said at work, when I was filming, I was like, I'd like to be in a Western, and then my co-star started laughing, and I said, why are you laughing? And she said, no, you're not going to be in a Western. And then she said, you'd get your leg caught in a last suit and get dragged behind the horse. I was like, oh, come on. You're a little cowboy. Who said this to you?
My co-star in the show I just filmed. But I thought, all right. Yeah. And take your, you're working out a bunch of material, right? Still? I have been working on material, but I've kind of taken a beat. I just keep having this feeling of like, I think I want to be saying something. Yeah. You know, I don't know. Right. But then like, sometimes you got to just talk about mountain goats.
But then for sure. But if when you're talking about, yeah, I'm feeling a nagging thing of. That's exciting as a fan, because I'm like, oh, if you've got a nagging thing, something's going to come up and that's juicy. We'll see. I mean, I don't know. I might just want to do an hour of talking about mountain goats. But I have started writing something here in Toronto.
And is it about us? It's about me and you. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Fortune has nothing to do with it. It's just about me and you. Wow. Wow. Just deconstructing every milk. No, boy. Yeah. Little cowboys. Yeah, yeah. That's exciting.
I don't know if you know this, but Tig and I, on a pretty cool episode, both revealed how much we want to learn how to tap dance. I'm sorry. Seriously? Yeah. And then the three of us will host the Oscars.
Okay, I'm going to say something crazy, but I don't think that's outside the realm of possibility if the three of us really focus our manifestation powers and we visualize us hosting the Oscars.
and top dancing. I don't think it's gonna happen, but we still have to plow forward and learn to tap. Do you know how to tap dance, Mae?
Imagine if I was like, yeah, of course, I know. I don't know how to move my body at all, really. I feel like my joints are fused. You're not a dancer. No, but the other day I went on YouTube and searched John Travolta, Saturday Night Fever tutorial, dance tutorial. Oh, what? Yeah, and I thought I'm going to learn it and bust it out when you least expect it.
Can you show us what you've kind of learned already? I want to polish it. Well, it's just the way his hips move. Magic May. Magic May. Magic May. It's a lot of life. It's like a lot of this. Wow. Okay.
That's going to get us the Oscars. Yes. So, Fortune I will be tap dancing and you'll be doing, how is it that we're talking so much about John Travolta on this podcast? But yes, you'll be doing, you'll be gyrating Travolta. We did say in our fantasy scenario that, taking out would be tap dancing and you would be playing the guitar maybe.
Oh, interesting, because you know, I think May was doing is like actually doing a monologue. Oh, saying stuff. We're just tapping our faces off. Okay, so get ready for this world.
Mm-hmm. Is this gonna be like a routine like in like in singing in the rain or something like where you know one of you will like point to one you know and then someone does a bit and then you point like you trade back and forth. Yes. Depends on how good we are in our lessons. Okay. Well. Are you expecting us to not be? This is for the Oscars even though the Oscars hasn't tapped us. For tapping. For tapping.
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Yeah, we're going to approach everything when we go get our new suit. So when we go learn to tap dance, we're going to be like, and this is for the Oscars. Yes. Yeah. And so they will just assume we got the gig, but we are just, yeah, maybe we just fix in Hollywood. Yeah. And they'll say, what does it air? And we're like, you know, yeah, like spring. What if it just gets back to the Oscars? Like we just start telling our peers,
I had, you know, handsome pots hosting the Oscars this year. And then we, it's, and it just like becomes reality because. Okay. Well, let's get it started. I have some really exciting news. Uh oh. What? The handsome pot is hosting the Oscars. Oh my God. Yes. I would even start my tap dancing lessons. Okay. We got to get to it.
And we're going to open with a big number. I love Billy Crystal days. That's what we would do, right? Billy Crystal was. Yes. Yeah. Top hats, canes. Yeah. Would we like make jokes about the people in the crowd the way they always do? Yeah. You have to make a couple. Yeah, we go. Well, Paul, Paul Mascals here. Hope he's eaten his Martin fruit.
Pardon and fish. Things that are just inside jokes from the podcast. We're all like, yeah goes. Is everybody sitting a pineapple apart? Yeah, just crickets in the podcast.
Oh, I love this plan for us. I am down for it. Me too. I do think that I should learn that Saturday Night Fever thing though. Yeah. I mean, why wouldn't you? I don't know how you've gotten this far without it, honestly. I know. But you did. How much time did you devote to this tutorial on YouTube?
Oh, I'm really just at the very beginning, but I did learn the Beyonce, Texas Hold'em lot like country dance. I learned that in its entirety. Can't we see that? We have time. You can't drop that and then not show us a little something.
Okay. Here we go. This ain't Texas. Ain't no home. Okay, we're just gonna sing. Okay, okay, let me see if I remember. Down, down, down, down, down. Okay, start from the beginning. I don't know the words. I gotta see if I remember. This ain't Texas. Oh, I get it. Oh, say my dog.
Wait, is this John Travolta? No, this was Texas Holdem, but I'm forgetting it suddenly. Beyonce's gonna go now, so she sees this rendition.
Okay, I'm going to practice it up and send it to you. I actually did it at a party in front of a bunch of people. Listen, if we are hosting the Oscars, I think that's even good enough to present in the, you know, like it's hard to gotten. Just be like, as soon as you know, you know, like humming the words you don't know, just really dialing it in. Yeah. Oh my God, I love it.
I like that they were they they were Billy crystal would put himself in in the movies you know like oh yeah I was the best like whatever was nominated he'd kind of added himself into it.
So they would, that feed would go to Toronto, to Canada, to the Oscars. That feed, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was an international broadcast, yeah. I didn't know. It's everywhere. The Oscars are everywhere.
Yeah, I have no idea. Yeah, it was massive. You had no idea, fortune? Really? I don't know if Canadians were watching the Oscars. I didn't know if it was outside of the US. I didn't know they were up there with their ketchup chips. Yeah, it would depend if we could get electricity into the igloo that night or not. But I would stay up late. But I mean, you can't get certain things out here. There's certain
whatever streaming and network or news and I can't get up here.
Yeah. That's all you want. Me, Oscar's just big, though. And I got to stay up late past my curfew. But that's when my famously, when I was a kid, my mom, we were watching the Oscars and she was saying, this singer is such a terrible performer. He's just got his eyes closed. He's the worst showman. And we were like, that's Andrea Bocelli and he's blind.
Anyway, she didn't know he wasn't familiar with him. No, she didn't know that he was flying. He's in his eyes closed. And then the other Oscars memory inside. Other Oscars memory I have is my brother and I were in the basement and my mom was like, we were in the middle of playing a board game and then my mom was calling to us saying, guys, guys, Bob Dylan is performing at the Oscars or you've got to come up and see this. And my brother just goes, why do we have to see that fuzzy-haired asshole?
I don't know why he was only 14 or something. He had some feelings about Bob. Yeah, I think he just didn't like getting interrupted from his monopoly game or whatever. Don't let him see my hair. Those luscious locks. Yeah, has he seen fortune's hair?
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in the discussion about what to do, how long to film, and then realizing how amazing if we wrap it up now, and Andrea can see this movie. And we submitted it to Sundance without telling Andrea.
Oh my god. We didn't tell Andrea that we were potentially wrapping up the film and submitting it, because if it didn't get in, we didn't want to let anybody down or have any sort of disappointment. And it truly got in unanimously. That's what the festival told us, that I guess 11 people. And they said it was unanimous. And really exciting.
that this movie got made and is so well received. Congrats, man. Yeah, but that's really cool. Really, really excited. And it's been a lot of compartmentalizing, too, because it's been quite a year that we've all been navigating behind the scenes. But anyway,
Should we get to our questioner? Yeah, let's do it. Today's questioner is a comedian, writer, actor, and activist who co-created and starred in the Comedy Central series, Broad City. They starred in films including Rough Night, False Positive, and Babes, and produced the Tony Award-winning musical, A Strange Loop. Ilana Glazer is asking today's question. Yeah. Hi, Tig, and May, and Fortune. Ilana Glazer here. My question for you is, do you believe in God?
Oh, deep deep. I did a after midnight with Alana back before the holidays and Alana is so great. And after the show, we sat on the couch and chatted for a while. And I realized, because I don't know well that she does like to just dig deep right away. Like, what did you get? What did you get into that was so deep? Just going to talk about
like therapy and the benefits of that. And like, yeah, just sort of chatting about the pressures of the business and taking care of yourself, basically. I'm excited to hear your guys' answers to this question. All right. Do we believe in God? I have to say,
Oh, I don't. I'm not doing this pot anymore. When I say that I don't, I also don't like to be so concrete. Yeah. Yeah. Are you more agnostic? You're like, I don't know. Yeah. I mean, because
Yeah, it's just like you when you get into all the mechanics of how the world works and animals and nature and how complex everything is. It's like, yeah, how the hell, but then it's also like there can't possibly be just a God who is just doling out these mind-blowing
You know, what if you got hit by lightning right now? Yeah, I still would feel the same way. I feel like that was a freak out. You'd be like, yeah, the lightning came through. Yeah. I feel like there's.
whatever, if there is a God, it's something like science is going to be part of that. Like there's some, like maybe there's some energy source and we're all part of that energy and like that's what you would call God is like the source energy or something like that. It does feel, it feels very scientific and then not scientific. It's like,
God feels like when when you walk into a church or you meet certain people who are religious and talk about God, they feel they can feel so removed from science with their thinking. And yet when I look at the world,
In a scientific way, it makes me think there would have to be. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. So for you, like science makes you dot God, but also science is artly evidence of God. Because you're like, this is too crazy.
Yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah, I think so. Like quantum theory and things like that, especially recently, we're making these huge leaps in our understanding of reality. And I feel like at some point, we're going to cross that bridge into spirituality, where science and spirituality meet up. Because we know that matter behaves differently when it's observed by
of consciousness. There's things that are so mind-bendingly crazy that it's like, yeah, maybe it'll... But I think that all leans more towards like, we're all God. You know what I mean? We're all... Thank you. I mean, I'm sorry, yeah. And Thomas, and Thomas.
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The father, son, the Holy Ghost. There's usually three, but I wonder. You were both raised religious. Like I wonder, I know as queer people, like it's a complicated relationship with religion itself, but I wonder, I also see all the benefits of community and spirituality as well. But for sure, what was your experience like and how do you and where do you land on it?
Yeah, I mean, in the South, there's a church on every corner. It's such a part of the culture and also the social fabric.
if you live especially in a small town like a lot of community revolves around church and a lot of social things and vacation Bible schools and Sunday school and trips like my mom's gotten back active in the church again and she's doing all these social things but so I grew up having to go every Sunday and
As I got older, I think the thing I struggled with with church was, I would be taught these things of like, you know, as a kid, you're taught the simple teachings of Jesus, like be good to one another, do as one to others as, you know, whatever it has been doing to you and like all these principles of like,
More holes and then I would see other people acting a certain way and being like very pompous and hypocritical and I hated that it really bugged me. Yeah, because I would see these. These people like saying like alcohol is bad or like this is bad or this is evil and I'm like yeah, but you're bad.
Your behavior, like you were hammered. Yeah. Last weekend in Poland. You know what I mean? And so that was always a big struggle for me was the hypocrisy of it all. And that was long before I realized I was gay. So that was a whole other conversation once I came out.
But when I, but I did have this like want and desire to believe in God and to have that personal thing that didn't involve the structure of church. Yeah. And as I got older and I moved to LA and I came out, then I went through a long period of time where I was like, Oh, well, now that I'm gay, I must not be allowed in church.
Um, so I didn't go for many, many years and but my belief in God remained and I do believe in God, but again with an asterisk of It's just a personal belief because it makes me feel better, you know, I think mine is rooted in optimism hope
having someone to like talk to and times of need and wanting to see my grandmother again. And someone could come tomorrow with a bunch of like facts where I go, that's a valid. You know, I don't know, but it makes me feel good.
Yeah, it feels like a lot of people I know have like a kind of including me probably like a kind of new agey like like people talk about like their guides or like, you know, like that they're, I hope that there's some benevolent force that's like the
that wants you to succeed, that's like doing, that's like can hold you when you're like, when you can't, when you're so depleted that there's like nothing in the tank that you can ask for support from the universe or whatever. Like, I feel like a lot of atheist people that I know actually have that.
Yeah, especially the younger generations and stuff. You got your crystals, you got your tarot, and I think it's a similar thing, just hoping that there's a reason you bought that crystal. I hope there's a reason that these tarot cards, I like to believe it in something, because what I hate is when religion is used as a weapon, and that's been happening for centuries. Wars have been fought.
Over religion of we're right. You're wrong. We know the way you don't know the way that that's where I get really Frustrated with religion. It's not a weapon. It shouldn't be a weapon. It shouldn't be an an us and them and what my mind is When you think about the actual word believe
That's what you believe in. That's what you believe in, Fortune. This is what I believe. People get so triggered because you believe something. Like somebody told you something.
Like it's about religion or spirituality or whatever it is. And you accept it. You go, I believe that. And then people are like, you believe that? And then, yeah, and then all the way to war starting because you believe. Right. You know, somebody's doing something. You're like, I don't believe that. And I believe this. And people freak.
and start wars because you believe something. It's so crazy to me. What always bumps for me even as a kid is the definition of faith is believing something despite evidence to the contrary. No, if you give me evidence to the contrary,
I'll adjust my, if there's hard evidence, you've got to be open to evolving your belief system, but that John Lennon song, God from his solo career is so good. It's so good. God is a concept by which we measure our pain. Come on, that's a great line.
He wrote some good lines in his time. He wrote some big fan over here. Big fan. Big fan. I don't like the cherry picking of the Bible that bothers me a lot to this like, oh, this is in this verse, this. And you're like, yeah, this is a lot of things that don't apply these times. You're not allowed to wear buttons on Wednesday or whatever.
Yeah, but it's like God says this. That's a sin. I think I've said this before because my parents are staunch atheists, much more than me. I would say they have a pretty pessimistic worldview. My dad said humans are just fucked up little monkeys and all of reality and creation is just like,
somebody spilled a yogurt and the bacteria proliferated, and that's the world. But when I was about 10, I decided to rebel and become super Christian for like six months.
Yeah, I went to an Anglican school and I just decided like, yeah, Christ is my savior and I got a little calculator and I would, maybe I was younger than 10, I must have been like seven or eight. I remember I would like talk to Jesus through the calculator and it would piss my parents off so much.
That's so funny. My dad said that he believes if he zoomed out on the whole universe and all the galaxies and everything, you would see that all the stars and constellations form an image of a giant insane clown rocking back and forth. So that's their world view. Creepy.
Ah, he could be right. I mean, when I see people that, you know, my, my first girlfriend's parents have been a positive experience in my life as far as deeply religious people. And then my friend, Beth and I used to live next door to, um,
In Austin, we lived next door to this family that was deeply religious, Christian, involved in their church, but really, really extraordinary examples of human beings. And you can
Sometimes get a little concerned or scared, which is so crazy. When you find out somebody is so deeply religious, it can trigger fear. It's really unfortunate.
Yeah, it's sad when someone's belief system makes someone feel like, oh, well, now they're not going to like me. Or now they'll actually hate me. Yeah. And that's, that's a part of the religious experience that bums me out.
Yeah, I really like how in Judaism, I feel like their doubt is built into their faith. It's part of it. That healthy doubt and constant questioning, I like that.
Yeah. How can there's a silent bee and doubt? Sorry. My mom is a united Methodist. She makes sure everyone knows that. That's like the modern church split over the gay.
I don't know what the word is, where one group of people did not want gay people to be involved in the church at the clergy. You're leaving gay marriage any of that stuff. And the other united part did. So the church just completely split.
The church that I grew up in is the United Methodist Church. Luckily, I'm very proud that they stayed at the United Methodist Church and believed in that. Some people left the church and went elsewhere because of it. My mom has me go with her when I go home for the holidays.
I got one of your videos is so so funny. I can't remember to charge with my mom. That's awesome. It was so funny. I joke that I got to go to church. When I'm there, it's just a simple mess. The preacher is a great guy.
doing a sermon about really relatable things and just trying to be a good person. And I'm like, I can get down with that for sure. I love like myths and stories and stuff. I was a pretty nice time. I used to go with my grandma too. I just have all this knowledge of church that I don't know what to do with. And I'm like, it is so weird to have so much knowledge of a thing that you're not right.
A part of it anymore.
I was there in church, like singing all these hymns I knew, saying the Lord's prayer that I knew. It's so funny, but yeah, I don't know. Did you ever learn the Lord of the dance, that hymn? It always, it was like a banger when I was, it's like, all I remember is goes, it's hard to dance with the devil on your back. It is hard. I think it's hard to dance with anyone on your machine song. Yeah.
It's hard to dance with the devil on your back. Yeah, it does sound like Florence and the machine. Should we hear what Alana has to say? Yes, please. I do believe in God. What does that mean? I don't know. I believe that there is a spiritual force that created the universe, but it's not like different. You know what I mean? It's like it is life itself. It is
the planet earth. I mean specifically like it's like I don't know about the whole fucking universe but I see God as like the force that the destiny of why planet earth is
the one organism it is, all the people, all the animals, all the fucking bugs and plants as one organism. Us being here now, to me, that is God. Truly, we're comedians. When people are laughing together, that's a spiritual, that's God to me. Fucking sex, dancing.
not to promote my Santa's special, but the human magic that comes up and fights through this weird cancerous system that divides us, that is an intentional design, that isn't God. That's something else.
But the humanity that arises like it, like a flower rising for the cracks of a Brooklyn sidewalk, like that's God to me. Does that answer your question? Does that answer my question? Does that answer my own question? I mean, that is the thing for a lot of people. It is a personal relationship of
It maybe doesn't mean the thing that your talk is that old man in the sky thing. It's like, whatever it means to you, whatever, like you were saying, my iteration, the universe, virtual spirituality, whatever, if it makes you feel better, do better, get through something, good for you. Yeah, I'm always,
open, intrigued when somebody like curveball find out when I find out they are religious or Christian or whatever it is. I'm like, oh, interesting, interesting. I'm like, I mean, I'm sort of on any given day, I'm kind of in the same camp as Alana, but then some days I'm like, well, isn't
How can we just say that all the good stuff is God? What about all the bad stuff that must be God too, the anger and fear? That's got to be part of it. We ascribe moral values to essential human feelings.
Anyway, I don't know. Anyways, I've been ticked. What did you say? Anyways, I'm ticked. You know, the way you end your sense. Yeah. Yep. Just got that. It was just reminding me also of when people say things like, um,
Forget the past, or why are you bringing up the past? You live in the past. Don't, you know, not that it sounds like everybody's telling me I live in the past, but that argument of leave the past in the past.
And I find that interesting because there is good in the past. And so when you conjure up old memories from the past, nobody's like, why are you bringing up these good memories from the past? Leave it behind. Just move on. Something about that reminds me of like you kind of do have to have the good and the bad.
That balance because you should be able to talk about the past and what was hurtful and memories. And then you also should be able to talk about good memories. And the times you laughed your face off and they're all equally as important and they all feed each other.
Yeah, I have a lot of friends who've done ayahuasca or like DMT or these like really intense psychedelics that are becoming popular as like kind of ways to exercise trauma and so many of them have the same experience of like meeting some benevolent kind of source energy like especially DMT I watch videos of people that most people say like I want to
No, never done DMT in my teens. I did acid and things like that. But yeah, this everyone unanimously pretty much is like, oh, yeah, I confirmed for myself that there's something more going on and I kind of and I met some energy that I felt, you know, held by. I mean, some people are like, I just saw a snake with my dad's head or whatever, but most mostly people are like having this profound experience.
I don't know if that's just a brain chemical thing or if that's a real. Are we landing on? We're landing on. Hey, teach their own personal decision and who knows. Why don't we get ghost? Yeah. Ghost. Yeah. Ghost.
I think when we host the Oscars, we should just have this conversation about God on stage. There'll be a real fun way to start to go. Wild tap dancing. Wild tap. So out of breath, all of them. I didn't like to Lana's onesie outfit. Me too. That made me go all the way.
Well, that was once again a grand old time. I feel like we could have had some
We could have clanked some whiskey glasses and continued discussing for a while. Me too. I'm on tour doing working it out shows where I'm writing new material. So I have some fun shows coming up in California, in Ontario, and Oxnard, California, in the month of February, in Irvine, California. If you want to kind of see how the sausage is made.
We're yeah gross joke, and then i'll take off my tour in savannah and charleston's hockey on a bunch of places so those are my website but check out my um netflix special crush in it.
I think you'll like it. I know you will. I've got my album, my music album coming out soon. And so I'm doing, yeah, check out my social media for details because I, but I'm doing some four really big fun shows, one in New York, one in LA, one in Toronto and one in London, playing, playing the album and telling stories and
doing third eye blind covers. It'll be nostalgic. I'll be apologizing for existing throughout it because I've been postured syndrome about doing music, but I think it'll be fun. I want it. I want it, my friend. Yeah. Okay. No, it'll be great. No, it will be. It will be. Yeah.
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