How indoctrination is shaping education today

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And then here are our past shows on the heart truth with Tony.com. Also, before I move on to the guest, I want to do a shout out to Shari Curry. I'm wearing her T-shirt from her last concert at Whiskey a go go. I was there. It was great. John Ford Coley, Jake, her son, my friend and your friend, because you know him and love him from airplane. Bob Hayes, Robert Hayes was there. Anyway, these T-shirts are still available. Just saying, these are a collective item, collector's item, Jake.

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You can check it out online. All the stuff is there. I haven't had time to post it yet. All my stuff because I was backstage. She got a big award. She got a triple platinum award for her song, Cherry Bomb, which was on Guardians of the Galaxy Part 3. And apparently that movie did well and her song did well because, you know, we do well here.

and without further ado, someone who has done well and we're going to be doing well with him today is Michael Levine. Levine. Is it Levine? I mean, make sure I get it. Levine. Levine. Levine. So here we are with Dr. Levine. Dr. Levine is an author of 19 books. That's a lot of work. I've done two and oh my God, it was too much work. I can't. I never reduce, I ever reduce social life.

People who don't get people take it from me. The fact he did 19 books, that's devotion. That's that's work. Hard work. People understand how it's like, I'm going to write books someday. Yeah, sure you are. It's a lot of work.

is delivered career development presentations of both Oxford and Harvard universities. That's great. I've got a blossoming relationship with Oxford and England. We'll see how that goes. They want to invite President Trump over to speak. So we'll see how that all goes out.

Uh, he, uh, Dr. Levine, Michael has, has provided counsel to 43 New York time bestsellers, not me, but I, I wish I would have had your advice. It would have probably gone well. 58 Academy award winners. That's impressive. Since we just talked about Shari Curry, who's both an actor, actress and, uh, musical, uh, superstar. So I'm sure that you've had a lot of good of success and 34 Grammy award winners.

and provided non-paid media counsel to three U.S. presidents of both political parties. Now, that's a good thing. I want to come back and talk to that a little bit, because I've actually worked in some form for every president since Jimmy Carter, except for this one, except for this one, except for Joe Biden just saying. That's okay. That's okay.

And then also he's lectured at the Bill Gates Leadership Team as for the Bill Gates Leadership Team and provided commentary for numerous publications, including New York Times, USA Today, Forbes, Variety, Fox News, Good Morning America, amongst others. So welcome to the show, Dr. Levine, Michael.

Paul, me, Michael, and Tony, thank you. It's an honor. First of all, thank you for sharing your valuable audience with me. It's good to be you. I mean, we appreciate people like you who have deep experience that they will learn from. So we try to bring people like you to them. Tony, I love the title of your show, The Hard Truth, because much of the truth that's really valuable in life

is sometimes hard and counterintuitive and counter comfortable. It's, you know, so I love the title of your show. So thank you. Well, I'm going to start off with a hard question. And that is, how do you, how do you get people to listen to you? Because giving advice, especially good advice, which is sometimes not easy to accept. It's a hard truth. How do you do that?

Tony, I have a saying that I live by in my life. I'm going to share it with you. I'll see if it represents a hard truth in your mind. Sure. In the end, people respect wisdom, but obey pain. No, a natural. And so, generally speaking, when people get in enough pain, when they feel the heat, they see the light.

And so that may be somewhat of a riddle in an answer to your question, but often when people get in trouble, they listen rather thoroughly.

So that's a great and I get it because I know I'm recovering and recovering alcoholic. I've got 32 years in going to 33 and it wasn't until I had enough pain. Do you recognize it's time to change. It's time like, Hey, I can't do this and I should probably figure out. And I guess part of it is the timing because you have to then know the timing. So I'm going to say something to the audience. The audience, I think may be aware of this one of my dear friends.

Jerry Doyle, who was the actor of Babylon 5, he was a radio talk guy. Really good guy. He, I think, was about to hit his bottom. And then he ended up hitting on his, hitting his head in his kitchen and passing because I think he was getting close to recognizing the pain was bad enough to ask for help. He didn't quite make it because

He just went, he went away that that was sad. But I think most people, most organizations get to a point of where, geez, we've got to change or we're just going to die. Some people don't make it to the point of where they're ready to change. And they do die. And that's businesses are people. So how do you, how do you posture yourself to be there for that moment in time, which is most necessary for people to listen to you? Well,

Over time, like in any area of life, you develop a certain reputation. I would like to think that one of the things that I've developed in terms of a reputation with my clients is I try very hard to tell them what they need to hear, not what they want to hear. But I try to do it in a polite, respectful, and gentle way.

Often gentle, not always. And I try to approach situations with the understanding of what would I want to hear if I were asking the question. Interesting. Yeah, so I tell people what they need to hear, not what they want to hear. What they want to hear is that things are easy and fast and inexpensive or free.

And that's just nonsense. I don't buy into the popular notion that things are easy, free, and fast. Yeah. Well, I'm with you on that night. You're slogan, your destiny, a chance in a lifetime, a lifetime of chances. So let me just speak a little bit about my experience in this area, because I had to do a veteran's day talk

For the Terrell County. I'm here in North Carolina the Terrell County a ceremony a small small population in North Carolina, but great people So part of it was I try to encourage youth Step up and take the place of veterans. I was there. We had 103 year old veteran there

served the nation. God bless her. I mean, I got a picture with her and everything. And so, but I talked to the youth. We had the Boy Scouts there. We had the ROTC. I said, you all need to recognize that you're the future. The future is you. And one of my pieces of advice, and you can veto me if you so choose, doctor. But I said, never turn down an opportunity to do something you've never done before.

It may be hard, it may be difficult, but you can never tell whatever that experience is. We'll somehow come back to Ben if you down the road. Would you? I would generally agree with you, Tony, except unless the thing was obviously self-destructive.

Good point. In other words, I would agree with you never, ever miss an opportunity to expand, to stretch, to grow, to try things that are not necessarily easy. On the other hand, there are certain things that are obviously self-destructive that I would be opposed to. Well, I actually talked to, you know, I'm a whistleblower. So during my whistleblowing, I actually,

I was being paid by his board. So I said, hey, can I go work at a retail store? And the defense said, yeah, go and knock yourself out. So I worked at Home Depot as the department head of hardware. It's like, holy cow.

It was a great experience. I walk into the Home Depot in Springfield, Virginia. People still know me from 20 years ago. And it's great. It was a great experience. I learned from them. They learned from me as well. It gives you a perspective that you would never have. Exactly. Just by reading a book or on them. Yeah. Yeah. And that's what I say. It's like you need to get out and do it. And I agree with you. I guess that's a caveat I should add to my spiel is like anything's not self destructive. You should do it. Yeah.

So, but that's great. So, that's the thing. So, we're here to talk a little bit about your book, Broken Windows, Broken Business, because... Be sure. So, what we've just kind of hit on, and you're actually, I blessed you, rolls right into this, is you have to avoid destructive behavior, which may be counterproductive to the overall,

a military term, good order and discipline of you as an individual or your business as a concern. So tell us about your thoughts and what we'll find in this book. Okay. So first of all, you don't have to avoid anything. If you want to act like a jackass in your life, you can act like a jackass. I know. You're going to pay the price. See, whatever course you take,

You will live with the consequences. And here's something worth remembering. Life accumulates.

like accumulates. Okay. So look, broken windows, broken business is a business book that I wrote. And it's become an international bestseller. It's real thesis, Tony, is that little things matter a lot. Yeah. So you walk. Yeah, tension, detail. So you walk into a restaurant. Okay. And you go into the bathroom. And the bathroom is dirty.

Well, it sends a psychic signal to your brain that maybe the kitchen isn't too clean. You're on an airplane, you pull that coffee tray down and you see a spot on the coffee tray that's not been cleaned. It sends a psychic signal to your brain that maybe the engine maintenance isn't being done too well. So little things matter a lot and we're living in a time

in which basically businesses, particularly big businesses, have turned their head away from detail. They're trying to do things cheap, fast, cheap and fast. And they're not trying to do them right. They're trying to do them cheap and fast.

And so that's why when you walk into McDonald's today, you walk into Starbucks today, it's not the same experience that it was 10 years ago. Because 10 years ago, they were trying to do it right. And today, they're trying to do it fast and cheap. So there you go. Now, some of this pressure to do things fast and cheap has been brought upon them by government that

required a $20 minimum wage. And there were lots of other unintended consequences to this silly notion that you can give out free things to people. There is no free. So anyway, but most people have turned their, they don't have the grit, the discipline,

the attention to detail, the commitment, the focus, the devotion that was very common in America 20 or 30 years ago, it's not common to say, pry, that's another great word, isn't it? I did it because I wanted to be proud of it. Today, you're proud if you can get off an hour early from work.

That's some great points. And personally, I'm just, I've got a, I've been invited by, I don't know why, to go to the secretary of the Navy's birthday Navy band event on the 21st. And I've got my uniform out now. I'm already working on it to make sure attention and detail is you bet.

I've already got it out. I went through my, you know, it's like, okay, it's going to look good. But one of the experience points that I have, which echoes what you're saying is when I worked for Home Depot, it was during the reign of Bob Nardelli. You probably have heard of Bob. Yeah, I have heard his name. I don't know. So Bob did some things which didn't, he didn't actually have attention to detail.

He came out of the Jack Walsh school of management, which I don't think, I don't, I don't know if you want to talk about it, but I don't agree with Jack Walsh's philosophy because Bob Nardelli was a, was a profit of it. And it's all about managing numbers, not the business. And so the moment you start. Yeah, I don't give a damn. The numbers will take care of themselves. I think we take care of the customer. I don't, I'm on the Jeff Bezos school.

I don't give a rat's-ass about anything except the customer. There you go. And the customer experience, the rest of the stuff is all going to take care of itself. Right. See, that's why I never liked the Welsh model because it was all about managing the numbers, not the business, and Nardelli comes in.

And because it's his job is to grow the business. Well, he grew the business by actually starting to carve out and get rid of associates at Home Depot, who does the customer, does the hard work of engaging customers. And that was notable. I was like, brother, you walk into Home Depot today in Los Angeles. You can't find an employee. And if you do find employees,

Even if you ask for the manager, you will find someone that you would not hire to be a cashier at Applebee's in a bad neighborhood. Okay? So the experience of Home Depot is not the experience that on the TV commercials. You know, on the TV commercials, they make it look like you walk into Home Depot and they give you a foot massage.

Yeah, that's not how things are today. They now, of course, some of that is created not by horrible managers, though I think they've made mistakes. It's by this idiotic notion of a $20 minimum wage. Yeah. And you can't now, when you artificially drive up a revenue,

you create an economy that's false. It's hopped up. It's like putting someone on cocaine. Is that how they behave in real life? Of course not.

So anyway, no, I'm with you. So, but Rudy Marcus put Home Depot on that losing path and they never got off of it. And I have friends who are now managers at the old Home Depot. And they do a great job. And I mean, necessarily. Yeah, Richie, if you're listening, I got, you know, I still love you. You guys are great. But they're the minority. And they're the ones who actually have to do the hard work because maybe where was the Springfield, Illinois?

No, Springfield, Virginia, up in the north of Virginia. Okay. Let's talk straight. You're hard to insert. Let's talk straight. Yeah, let's. Springfield, Virginia is not Los Angeles, California. No, no. If you walk into a home depot in Los Angeles, California, you will not know whether to laugh or cry. Yeah. Your instinct will be to cry.

You can't find a soul. No one helps you. The people who do help you are. Yeah. Now in Springfield, Virginia, Home Depot may be terrific, but not. Well, yes and no. No, I know, I know, uh, or the associates hide, you know, they go to hide and get their time and just say nothing wrong with that. But no, and my point being is that, you know, uh, what Bernie Mark has set up

as the foundation of customer service being the basis for Home Depot success. It got lost at some point because the business model changed and profit became the driver of over. And by the way, I don't think the pursuit of profit is Amazon profitable?

They focus on the customer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I look, I got to tell you, they've also got it. I just was elected the county commissioner down here from my district in North Carolina.

And I don't know if you knew this, but Art County, most counties, I don't know, we get to tax that. So we actually make revenue off of Amazon by people and going and doing that. So it's like, hey, let's use Amazon. And people respond to Amazon. We're in a very rural community, by the way. We're out of way from everything. So it's nice to have that as a service. But yeah, I think it's great that they do focus on that. And people use it. People want to be.

use that. So I think, but that's, that's what I think is missing today. And I've seen this in the military too. Believe it or not, you have customers in the military, you have to subscribe and actually do things to get people to be successful.

creating entrepreneurial models. Our whole society has changed its culture values. And it's not changed for the better. And so broken windows, broken business is a book that people who are in business, small entrepreneurs or big entrepreneurs, can read and reconnect

with the fundamental ideas that little things matter a lot. When you walk into a restaurant and the hostess says, good morning, good afternoon, that matters. 70% of all Americans define their favorite restaurant as the one which they know my name.

Yeah, just knowing your name. Hey Tony, how are you today? Yeah. So little details matter a lot. And that's why broken windows, I think has been a great success throughout the world. So.

The next question, the hard question, how does a business, and I don't want, let's, we want people to buy your book just saying, but give us a hint on what a business or an individual should do to start changing their philosophy. Obviously attention to detail. What else? Okay, here's one thing that I think is mandatory. Mystery shopping, right? Yep. Yep.

go to your own business or have someone else go at times that are not predictable. Go to a restaurant on a Saturday night at nine o'clock. Go on a Sunday morning at 7 a.m. Go at unpredictable times and check the systems.

check the bathroom, check that, how long does it take to get your iced tea refilled? Just watch those little details. And so mystery shopping is one area that I think is vital. And I talk about that in the book, a great deal. Call your own business. If you are dentists, right? You're dentists. Leave the your dental office for lunch.

And then get into your car and call your office and watch how many rings it takes for them to pick up and watch what they say. They say good afternoon or do they say, please hold, please hold. Yeah.

So I, I call it my turn forward is leadership by walking around. One of the things I've noticed, management by wandering around. Tom Peters, great. Got it. You got and talk to the customers. Go up. How are you doing? And let's say when a customer gives you a compliment, let's say you say to me at the end of the show, Hey, Michael, you were a great guest. My answer will be Tony. Thank you. That's very flattering. How could I be better?

Yeah. You see, isn't that the champion mind? Not say thank you, of course, but how can I be better? Now, what can I do better, different, smarter, quicker, faster, cheaper? How can I be better? That's the champion mindset. Yeah. Well, I think that's what,

has not been taught. I was raised by some folks in high school, and I mentioned you've worked with a lot of presidents. I actually was in high school. I went to high school in Lisbon, Portugal, and I was doing the summer higher with the Lisbon with

the American Embassy in Lisbon. And I actually was assigned to President Carter's visitation team. And I actually got to go out and buy a sweater for Zigna Brzezinski and a vase for Amy.

So, but I did learn early on that responsibility and being very precise and understanding what needs to be done is something important. And I learned that as a kid, you know, I've carried on since then. And by the way, if I may say, you know, we've talked about some of the reasons that we've fallen into the gutter. And that's what we've done, Tony, we've fallen into the gutter. America is in the gutter. Now it may come out of the gutter, but currently it's in the gutter.

And one of the problems, there are many, the education system, teachers and principals should be ashamed of themselves. But parents today have made this absolutely self-destructive abysmal choice to try to be their kids' friends, not their parents.

Your kids need something more than almost anything else as you're being raised. We need mega doses of vitamin N. Vitamin N. That stands for no. No. No. We're not going to Disneyland every week. No. You're not going to get the newest iPhone at age eight. No.

And of course, we haven't done that. So parents have failed, teachers and principals have failed, and the culture has suffered the consequence. Well, that's one of the agenda items that I've talked to the mayor of Edenton, the school board members, several teachers in my son's school, because they want to make the changes that I think you've just said, we've got to start saying no.

One thing. And we got to go and we got to get to fundamentals. We're not here to indoctrinate. We're here to educate your stupid, uh, idiotic indoctrination notions have no place in a school and parents got to get active and say, what are you talking about? What kind of nut do you know, Tony? I swear to you, I'm going to tell you something. I don't think you're going to believe me, but I'm going to tell you listen to me.

In Los Angeles, in kindergarten, only 50% of five-year-old kindergarten students in Los Angeles stand up for the Pledge of Allegiance. I've heard this. 50% of kindergarteners don't stand because their teacher doesn't demand it.

their teacher says, we're not having a pledge of allegiance. And this is permitted and allowed. That teacher 30 years ago would have been thrown out of the school. What do you mean you're not standing? What are you out of your mind? Everybody will stand. And if you don't want to stand, get out of the classroom.

Yeah. Well, we got to get back to basics to your point. That's one of the things I'll be working on. But one thing I do know that we will definitely say, yes, not know to you coming back at some point in their future. So I appreciate our conversation. I'd like to continue this.

Well, thank you, sir. You are too. And I appreciate your being here and we'll talk more next time about some of these things that we need to do because I'll be honest, I'll be looking for your advice as a member of the elected leadership of this county because we do want to make some positive changes and get back to basic. So Michael, Dr. Levine, thank you for being here in the hard truth this week. And God bless you. We'll see you again, hopefully very soon. Thanks, Tony. I love talking to you.

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Right? Okay. And then we're on the Merrick Out Loud Talk Radio Network and their podcast network. Check us out, ProjectSentinel.com. And we are on X, which I enjoy, X, at PRJ underscore Sentinel. That's us. So that's who we are. Oh. And then you can check out the old shows at thehardtoothetony.com.

And then, obviously, we just touted earlier on the show Cherie Curry. Get your runaways, collectible t-shirt. You know, I'm wearing it in the back, which you can't see. I showed earlier. But by the way, you know, Cherie does our theme music. She did a live version of rock and roll of living, which is our theme. Isn't that cool, Chris? You know?

And there's Jake. Jake is, Jake is modeling strangers. He is a modeling stranger. And I guess he's modeling. Is he modeling? I guess he can model, I guess. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, he's a strategy. I don't know what that means, but I guess, yeah. We're joined by the America's favorite photographer, Barry Morgenstein. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good afternoon. Good afternoon, Barry. How are you? Good. Thanks for having me back.

Good to have you back. It's always good to have you. So, um, by the way, I appreciated your posting for Veterans Day. A bunch of veterans you've taken pictures of. I saw that you do that. I think every year, don't you? Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. That's part of my career. So photographing our heroes. So, yeah. Yeah. As a matter of fact, I was on last night with, um, uh, one of the guys you photographer, you, you photographer.

I feel like George Bush 48. I feel like you still should have been worse. You could have been here. I'm making up words as we go. No, any caliber was on with me on Carl. Yeah, you've done and you've done Carl too, Carl Higbee. So we were on all of us, all three of us. That's right. All star line up there. I like it. That's right. It was great. And we were talking talking about Pete Higgs. Yes.

Yeah. So it was a good discussion. What's that? They approve of Pete? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Pete, Pete, Pete, I don't want to say Pete's going to kick people's ass, but he probably is just saying. For those from the Pentagon listening, if you are more focused on who you sleep with in your skin color and basically hanging out and drinking coffee all day, if that's your primary purpose to Pentagon,

I'd say you probably should be looking for a new job, just saying. I think all men with dresses are out there. Yeah, I think people who wear furry costumes. And if you're a dude with doodads, as the grease man used to say, right, Chris, doodads.

Three, man. I remember the case. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I will. I will. The kilts are still good. I'm still OK with the kill. I do. No, I think culture. I've got three where I'm once in a while when I go to an event. But did you know that that the speaking of Pentagon and nicknames did you know that based on what happened with Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, you know, he had some problems down there. Do you know what his new nickname is?

Zippity do dance. Oh, you heard it here first. So there you go. I'll be there. I'll never be invited back to the Pentagon. No, I will be. I'm going to be I'll be back there as perfect. I don't know why to keep inviting me to events. I was like, really? I get the I get an invitation the day from the secretary of the Navy is like, really?

Okay, I'll be there, but okay. So anyway, so that I digress what oh, yes, we had earlier on the show a great interview with Michael Levine But folks go check him out broken windows broken business highly recommended. We're gonna have back right Chris

Oh, that's going to happen. That's going to happen. It was great. And we're going to have him on again. That's a matter. He will be on several times on all the programs. That's a good guy. Yeah, as he said, your destiny, a chance and a lifetime and a lifetime of chances, a chance. So anyway, that's good. And then, by the way, Barry, Chris, and this guy, we've all had the benefit of actually having

Success, I guess, of doing things that we've dreamed of doing. Yeah. Barry, I think you've done more things than I think you probably dreamed as a kid. I know Chris is, you know, Chris and I have both done things. I never thought I'd be doing some of the things I do. So from here, I think the benefit of actually being dogged is that is a word, being devoted to the cause and doing things which are hard. I think it's made it stronger. What do you think, Barry?

Oh, the cause as far as our country being well, picking an area of being an expert in and actually being an expert. Oh, I'm lucky. I'm lucky that I've succeeded in what I love. My first love was music and that kind of I knew that wasn't going to be career. So that kind of led me to my photography and stay within the music field. And yeah, so I met a lot of great people and

Yeah, I'm very lucky. I'm lucky that I can have my career and also be very outspoken about love my country and the military. Yeah. And I'm still working. And you're not caught in the echo chamber of the left, like certain people I know. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. I'm a rarity, especially in New York City. Yeah. So do you think the standings? Yeah. So I have the question if you bury, and Chris will probably back me up on this. Why is it when Kamala Harris had had such an articulate, intelligent

Third, such as Cardi B, talking about women's vaginas. How could Kamala lose? I don't understand. I almost changed my, when I saw her speak, I almost changed my vote.

Help me, too. I know how this happened. I know exactly how this happened. You ever see these videos with all these fat women and disgusting, nose ring, blue hairs, it's reaching about how they're not going to have sex with men for four years. I know the blessing from the election. Well, some of them actually made those videos beforehand, and they were leaked out to some regular voters. And the voters thought, hey, this is a good idea.

So why don't we vote for that too? And that's another reason Kamala Harris lost. This is just from a little birdie that told me that stuff. Good bait. It makes sense. I'd vote again.

I'd vote for Pelosi's hammer just to keep them from reproducing. Are you saying that she's bisexual? Is that what you're saying? I'm saying that Javier Malay wields a better hammer than their pal. That's true. Well, I think if you give Nancy Pelosi a bottle, she'll do anything for vodka just saying. And ice cream.

and ice cream. That's right. And I think that was the secret of P. Diddy. He would give celebrities what they wanted, whether they wanted it or not. I mean, I think that most of those endorsements were, did you see the shine on most of those folks? They had the baby oil embedded in their skin. They were still shiny from that, by the way. Well, that's when they called him P. Diddley. It's right.

All right, so anyway, back to the show. I think it's interesting now that we're going through and talking about performance and what it takes to excel and be all you can be.

And one of the things that's notable about President Trump, he's come back. He just seems so much more personable and confident. Now, at the time we're taping this, Joe Biden, Uncle Joe, Sleepy Joe, Crooked Joe, whatever Joe you want, basically had a meeting with President Trump and it went very well. As a matter of fact, Joe looked almost happy, right, Chris? I mean, he was like a boy by the meeting. It looked like he was relieved in a lot of ways.

Yeah. Not relieved in his depends. No, don't, don't, not that.

No, not that. But he looked like he was it was a sigh of the world off his shoulders, right? That's a better way of stating it. Don't don't talk about depends Chris. We're not endorsed by depends. We're not endorsing depends. That's a good point. But I will say the man gets to retire. He gets to what's his name? He gets to be the big guy, get that 10% and if the rest of his life, and that's it, it's all done.

Yeah, he actually I was I did a list of winners and losers and an article that's gonna be up pretty soon or what stuff Okay, and guys are losing the election I picked that there were two I actually picked Kamala Harris and Joe Biden as winners in the election and Joe Biden for the reasons we discussed and Kamala Harris is a winner because yeah, check this out

She will not be exposed and go down as the worst president in American history. Had she been elected, that would have happened. So she can actually come out as one of the women who ran for president. She might be considered as a nominee for Supreme Court Justice and she might even get that kind of job, but she won't be embarrassed from her performance, by the way, and she'll want to put a nice cushy job, a patriot's job from the Democrats somewhere in California or somewhere within the

ranks of the federal, the Democrats across the nation, and she's going to live a happy life, not having to deal with anything else in relative obscurity unless she wants her own talk show. Either way, she wins by not winning the election. Well, it's a good reason, by the way. This is a question for Barry. Barry, why do you think, you know, she refused to go on Joe Rogan.

Uh, because Joe Rogan would not agree to not talk about legalization of marijuana. Why? Why do you think that was an issue with her? I'm just curious if you have an opinion and I'm serious. It's like, why was that like a show stopper? I didn't really actually honestly, and I didn't hear that that was the reason why she didn't go on the show. That's one of them. That was like a big one. They specifically said you can't bring up legalization of marijuana. It's kind of like

Why would this like, who cares? I mean, I don't care. I mean, I don't know. It's weird. I don't know about that. I just know that she obviously, she went on her friendly shows like The View and looked like a fool. So there's no way in hell she was going to go on Joe Rogan. No, no. Anything that's slightly difficult? No. She didn't want Joe Rogan to be her daddy. And she could have sat there for three hours like Trump did.

It doesn't actually set there for a half an hour to one hour and done the conversation. People would have been okay with it. Here's the thing. Didn't she prosecute a lot of people for marijuana offenses? She did. She did. That's why she don't want to talk about it. Now she's for marijuana. She does not want to touch that by a 10-foot pole.

so it's like most i can't speak for all conservatives but most of us don't care site i don't care i mean if you really think that smoke in the ganja is going to help you remember that uh... from uh... from uh... from uh... police uh... was that thing the beginning uh... uh... oh my god supertroopers supertroopers

Yeah, the snazberries taste like snazberries. Hmm. Here's the other thing. And littering and littering. And so I guess Kamala did not want to get into the snazberries, right? Right, Chris? Right. But even if she did, she may have inhaled unlike Bill Clinton.

she did say she said with um with uh what's his name the god because sharmine the god that she inhaled oh sholamine uh yeah i forget how many gods there is mark mark day says it best mark days calls him sholamine the fraud yeah well they all are yeah they all are yeah i mean uh you know these people so uh so now that we're talking about the still talking about the election so berry

Um, you, you run in some interesting circles. So do I mean, we're, we're kind of in interesting circles. Have you received any pushback from your, your liberal friends that you deal with, like customers or clients or whatever? Do you, were they upset with you? Did you get pushback? Did you lose folks? Because you've been publicly out here with us regarding the election and all that.

Yes, I've been canceled many times over the years, because I've been very outspoken, pro-Trump, pro-American. Unbelievable. Oh, yeah, I've lost a good portion, especially in the acting field. As you know, I come to Virginia here to do my weekend of headshots. I've had a number of acting agents who will refuse to recommend me.

But I don't get it because you are truly, it shouldn't matter who you believe in, regarding the fact that you are the best at your craft. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I don't get it, so. Well, you know, it's not like they walk in the studio and I shout to go Trump or whatever, you know, just a matter, obvious, but I guess if they know about my reputation or they go to my website, they're going to see a lot of my, my Newsmax, the newscasters, Fox. Yeah. All conservatives. Yeah. Right away. I've got people who

hired me, went to my site, went through it and said, oh, you know what? Never mind. Right, baby. So the rumor that you when you get him into studio and then you you basically strap him to a chair and force him to drink Trump wine be a funnel. That's not true. Absolutely. I know. I know. See these rumors get started. I don't know where they come from, you know. So

But you know, the good thing is I've got the coolest, greatest clients like yourself. You do. Well, thank you. There's a lot of military veterans and I got to get you to do me in uniform as far as I was just working on my uniform and stuff. So I got to get that done some time. So that would be cool. I'm back in town and Mark. So you let me know.

Yeah, I will admit to those dates this time, because I think I can come up and do it. It's just been so hectic with everything going on. So, you know, I got the slave driver named Chris Cordani and Ed Henry who keep me busy doing these things. So, you know, I'm his private Clayton. That's what it is.

All right, so continuing discussion of excellence and the campaign. So right now Trump's going to do some things which I think has already triggered the left. Matt Gaetz, being attorney general, Pete Higgs, our friend Pete Higgs, being set deaf. My friend Tulsi Gabbert being put forward as the DNI.

Man, oh man, you got CIA folks all upset about that. Abigail Spamburger, that fake CIA person all on up and Tulsi's face on MSNBC. She's going to give the bad image to everybody overseas about who she is. Like, oh my God, the fliners. It's amazing right now, right? Because Admiral Levine, an address made by the press people.

That's impressive. Yeah. So, well, speaking of that, now, I, um, I know that those things are made mostly of polyester. So, uh, I can only imagine the chafing that goes on when you were a skirt and you still have doodads just saying. It's like, I've not tried it, but man.

You got that tight skirt, and it's like, oh, man, that's rubbing the wrong way. It's like a pork chop, pork chop level chafing, if you know what I mean. It's like these are images that we don't want.

And now in January, we don't have to think about it anymore. It's like making people think what actually really happened when a guy with a hammer came into Pelosi's, Paul Pelosi's house or whatever, what was really happened. We don't want to think about things like that. No. Not a good image. I think other things are being hammered beside the hammer, just saying. I don't think that was the only hammering.

I don't think that guy was there randomly, by the way. I mean, by all accounts, the guy was a friend of the Pelosi's, whatever that means, just saying. It's like, you know, San Francisco friends, isn't it? Isn't that a code word for something? Oh, he's my friend from San Francisco. What, really? What? Okay. Well, I guess I would have baby oil. I hope you do.

All right, Chris, you get to answer the next question of Barry since he's kind of on the spot here. All right. You know, we'll do let's let's do this. So it's getting to be late. So we have about seven minutes left in the seven. Let's make it about that time. So I can go ponies and berries takes. Let's do that. Yeah. And this is this is powered by Sig Sauer. Never settle. Never settle.

Although, apparently Yale is settling. Yale University has, well, get this, brace yourself here. Yale University is offering a course, a college level course on Beyonce's contribution to culture. Yeah. I mean, the deliberate dumbing den of American continues, but what's your take? I think it's being sponsored by Durex, by the way, her quick course. That's a contribution. No.

That's a clue. We know the Ivy League turn into what the Ivy League is turning to, but we can make fun of them all we want. You just can't make this stuff up. I mean, they're dumbing the entire system down and it's getting worse. Yeah. What do you think, Barry? What's the biggest contribution besides Derek's?

I'm going to use the guy, as you know, and I can't name one song from Beyonce. What's your music guy? Exactly, so I have no idea. Well, they don't need to have a course on any of you. Maybe you're going to do a course.

Isn't it a song about putting this in the ring on or something? Wasn't that one of the songs? I don't know. Put a nipple ring on it. Nipple ring on it if you were. Yeah, something like that. Yeah. Yeah. That's where you're to our country. They're learning about Beyonce, I guess. That's going to be very helpful to their careers. I am sure. Yeah. Well, you know, Taylor Swift, they could do a duet. You know, I need your trouble by the time I put the baby earl on your back. That could be a great song. Oh, I think it's thinking about their wrong choices for president, though. That's another thing.

Man, oh man. I think we're going to get kicked off the network. We keep this up. I think Malcolm out loud to Tony out quiet. But at least it's not Tony out. That's another story.

No, it's not gonna happen here, bud. No, I don't think that's it. That's not in the cards. There you go. All right. From Beyonce to somebody else, a really electrifying woman who is really... Okay, here's a good question for you. How terrified do you think the agenda 2030 proponents and the World Economic Forum are about the prospect, at least Stefanik, could be the next US ambassador to the UN?

well i thought i i think this is going to add uh... they're going to have to change uh... your project twenty twenty thirty to twenty eighty because she's going to kick it down the road and kick their ass that's what i think it's going to happen oh yeah there was a yell president that she went after in congress tours that it was the harvard it was the harvard president always i was a couple others she was the cause of them of these uh... the the moral resigning and and all this whole work stuff getting getting exposed she was the one who did it and

I like the idea. I remember when Donald Trump actually announced this for the UN, we reject your globalism, we reject this. She's going to keep going and she's going to stop all these things from happening. Every year when these internationals pet themselves on the back over

over agenda 2030, probably soon to be 2040. And like you said, 2080, you're going to have a Stefanik Malay and some of the others are, and Trump's in there saying, nope, not going to happen. Finally, finally, we have people standing up to this who actually have positions of power.

So I have a suggestion. Barry, maybe you can whisper in the air of the mayor up there in New York. Why don't they just take and kick all the UN out and put all the illegal aliens in the UN building there on the East River, right? I'm serious. I'm not serious. Like, hey, you all need to leave because we have, you know, you've created the problem. Yeah. Yeah. Why not? Well, you wanted to come in. So exactly. Yeah. Amen. Yeah. I'll talk to this one. Yeah, get him on the phone.

He's going to nature up. It's like it's kind of funny. Like everybody's saying they're going to come after you once once you go against the Democrats are going to come after you. Sure. Nothing happens. So Trump is saying, yeah, dude, you're, you're, you know, I'll, I'll, I think they've, he said, like, I'll take care of just just, you know, ex nay on the okay nonsense. So yeah. So right.

Yeah, that's right. Well, and one more thing. Robert Bolton was an MSNBC. Again, the neocons and the Wokeys formed their alliance, and he's upset about Matt Gaetz's... I'm hyperaged. Matt Gaetz becoming attorney general. Yeah. Look, whether he makes it through or not,

I got to tell you, Donald Trump is really worrying the deep state on all ends over this whole thing. And Matt Gates being involved in the executive branch one way or another, which is going to happen. If he doesn't make it through, he's going to be in the executive branch somewhere. He's going to help hammer down or take down that deep state wall. What are your thoughts on all that?

So if he doesn't make it through to be AG, I think he ought to be one of the guys who actually becomes the commander of the Delta Force and goes in and just takes people and sends them to Gitmo. I think it'd be a great job for him. Don't you think? Well, give him a direct commission and let him go round up people. It'd be fun. I love it. Sounds good. Yeah. He's trolling the left in real life. That's what I like about Trump.

Well, speaking of that, well, I guess we've got to wrap up here. But speaking of that, Trump, I can only imagine who he's going to pick next for some of these senior positions. And he's gone with some real.

But I don't want to say they're not bad picks, they're excellent picks, but they were not seen coming. And I think that's part of what the left's upset about is they had no idea this was coming, even though we kind of told them. My favorite pick is Tom Homan. Tom is great. That's great. I'm so excited about that. How about Tony Schaeffer for the Secretary of Fear?

Yeah, no, that's right. That was here was for fears. No, Secretary of tears for fears. And we'll do it 80s, 80s like, right? Right, Barry, we'll go back and bring 80s. I'll be in charge of the Bureau of 80s night of 80s songs. That's my job. That's what I want. That'll be perfect.

As long as I'm enjoying this. Yeah, that's right. We're going to be the Undersecretary. There we go. So we're going to go. It's been another great show. We had a great guest and then another great guest, two great guests. You know, one of these things is not like the others. So we've all been here together and I had a good time talking about current events and motivation. So Mayor Barry, you motivate us.

to do good things. Thank you, Gary, for being here. Chris, you motivate the crowd to be, you know, hipping and hopping and rolling and rocking to the beat. The skin hop did it up. Was that, uh, uh, I, uh, you want Diddy Diddy? Yeah, there you go. That's right. That's right. We bring joy. So, yes, that's right. So anyway, so we are the America Out Loud joy team, right? It's our nickname, right? There's a team of joy.

Thought as well. You will have a joyful week. We'll see you again next week. Until then, take care.