Giggling about updates, crying, and stuff
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December 30, 2024
TLDR: Hannah cries and Paige has an epiphany.
In a heartfelt episode titled "Giggling About Updates, Crying, and Stuff," hosts Paige and Hannah not only share laughs but also delve deep into personal issues, including Paige's recent breakup. This summary highlights the episode's key moments, valuable insights, and relatable discussions they had during the recording.
Housekeeping and Exciting Updates
- Tour Dates: The episode kicks off with Paige and Hannah's excitement about their upcoming live shows, mentioning cities like New York, Nashville, and New Orleans. They joke about their travel plans and the unfamiliarity of some locations, adding a light-hearted tone to the beginning of the episode.
- Connection with Fans: The hosts express how much they value sharing aspects of their lives with their listeners, a community they refer to as "the gigglers." They emphasize the deep bond formed through their shared experiences.
Addressing Personal Challenges
- Emotional Vulnerability: In a significant transition within the episode, Paige opens up about her breakup with Craig, revealing her emotional state and the process behind making such a decision.
- She acknowledges it as a sad but necessary step, emphasizing the importance of mutual respect and growth.
- Conflicting Feelings: Paige candidly discusses the anxiety of public perception surrounding her breakup, expressing the tension between wanting to maintain privacy while also keeping her listeners informed.
Key Themes and Discussions
Growth and Transformation
- Personal Growth: As Paige reflects on her journey, she recognizes how her relationship with Craig helped her develop into a more mature individual, providing substantial support during transformative years.
- Empowerment in Change: The hosts discuss the empowering aspects of breakups, framing them as opportunities for growth rather than failures. This theme serves as a reminder that change can lead to better self-awareness and new paths in life.
Relationship Realities
- The Complexity of Breakups: Hannah points out that not all relationships end due to betrayal or conflict. Instead, they can simply dissolve as both parties grow in different directions, a sentiment echoed by Paige.
- Navigating Public Relationships: The ordeal of sharing their lives on reality TV introduces further complexity to personal relationships, prompting reflections on public perception vs. private reality.
- Misconceptions in Society: During the episode, they touch upon societal pressures regarding marriage and children, emphasizing that everyone’s timeline is unique and should not be dictated by societal norms.
Takeaways for Listeners
- Emotional Honesty is Important: Embracing vulnerability and sharing feelings can foster connection and understanding among peers.
- Growth Through Pain: Breakups can serve as catalysts for self-reflection and personal growth, making way for a new phase in life.
- Individual Timelines: It’s okay to be in a different stage of life than what’s traditionally expected; each individual has their own unique journey.
- Support Systems Matter: Surrounding yourself with supportive individuals, whether friends or community, can help navigate difficult times.
Conclusion
The episode closes with a blend of laughter and emotion, illustrating the balance of humor and reality that defines the Giggly Squad. Paige’s willingness to share her personal struggles resonates with many listeners, reinforcing that it’s okay to feel vulnerable and seek growth through challenges.
Final Thought
Through this episode, Paige and Hannah encourage listeners to embrace their feelings, prioritize personal growth, and remember that change, while sometimes daunting, often leads to new and empowering experiences.
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Stop gigglers. Carry it. Fix your Wi-Fi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed. I'm in the day just got away from me.
What's up? Growing and learning gigglers. We're growing and realizing things every day. I was trying to sound like Courtney. We're growing. Okay. Long story short, we're going to start with some housekeeping up top. We're both very nervous this episode. We have Radio City. I think there's a couple tickets left, but then we added Nashville, New Orleans, St. Augustine, Florida, where we have no idea where that is. Hollywood, Florida.
I've never been to New Orleans, I'm actually so excited to eat a bignet. Oh my god, that's honestly the chicest food I've ever heard. I feel like Bignet is the name of your next cat. Yes. Can you spell bignet? I don't think it's important to be able to, because the cat can't. You don't think anyone can spell bignet?
I don't think that's a thing that people spell. They just say it. Then we have Portland, Las Vegas, Salt Lake City. Check it out. Okay, this is going to be a unique episode of Giggly Squad. I mean, not really. Yes and no, because here's what I'll first and foremost say. Anything that's happening in my life, first I tell Hannah.
First, I tell my mom, then I tell Hannah, and then I tell the gigglers. So, like, if something in the universe is going on and I haven't said it to the gigglers first, then it's not true. And you've said things to me before that aren't true. I've lied to you multiple times.
What is reality? And so I was trying to think about how I was going to say this. And one of the things that popped in my head was our beta blocker episode was probably one of the most nervous I've been to do an episode and
say just like something I've never talked about before in real time of like how I felt a couple days prior to that. And I think it was like our biggest response episode because there were just so many gigglers were like, wow, like this was like on another level, like we get each other. We've truly formed a cult. This pod was made off of making fun of each other, most importantly ourselves, but in that,
As you're making fun of yourself, you start being like, holy shit, I'm seeing some real shit, and we talk about it, and we go in and out all the time. But look, the gigglers are our best friends.
Yeah, and it's kind of crazy. Like we've been doing this podcast now for five years. It does not feel like that at all. Because we're only 20. Because literally I'm 27 like when COVID started. So obviously I want to tell the gigglers first and I and I feel like the most comfortable with the gigglers. And I know that like people are going to like take these clips and it's going to be not a lot of non gigglers like chatting.
This is all just you announcing you have another UTI. And the gig is like, we're tired. We're tired, Paige. So I know this is going to be a little dramatic episode, and we didn't have a plan. No, we didn't have a plan. And I told her my plan was to let her talk. And my plan was to let Hannah talk.
Never gonna. We got on the pod and we've realized that we have no play on. This episode is pre-recorded, so we'll say that in case anything happens in the news that we're not touching on because it's all about me right now. What I did want to say was that Craig and I have decided to no longer be together. And I know I said I would never cry on the internet, but it's okay if I cry on the pod.
I feel like that's okay. It's weird. Obviously, it's weird. It's very weird. I wasn't expecting this, obviously. When we first started dating, you don't think, oh, what's going to happen? Will we get married? Will we not? You just kind of are in this relationship.
And as you get older, I mean, I started dating Craig and I was 29 and I'm 32 now and your 30s for women. I feel like really are very transformative and you change a lot and you grow a lot and him as well.
Not to sound traditional in old fashion, but this is not a situation where I have a 50 part series of who the fuck was I dating. Could not be more opposite of that. I have so much love and respect for Craig. I think he is.
one of the best people I've ever met in my entire life. I will remain the biggest fan of him and want the best for him and he truly will get the best because he is the best. But with that said, I think it was just the right decision for both of us like moving forward in our lives and like the direction that our lives are going in that we like didn't foresee or like whatever. It's a very sad thing and
And just to say this, not that I even have to, but in terms of people saying rumors, like, oh, Paige was told to wait until Southern Charm came out or Summer House came out. No one can tell me what to do.
Like the network has power, but they did they don't have that much power. So like that is not that was not a real thing. Um, like rumors of us breaking up months ago. Again, also not a real thing. I feel like when we started dating the, our first rumor was like we were in a PR relationship. So like we've been with these rumors, our whole relationship. So we didn't really give it a second thought, but I, I didn't want the gigglers to think like,
Oh, I was leaving them out of the loop or something. Not at all. Anytime those rumors were happening, we were still together. When we did break up, obviously, I didn't run to social media and I didn't run to the pod. We both gave each other a little time to deal with it on our own in private with our family and friends. And now, I feel like it is appropriate to be able to tell people
And so obviously, I would come to the gigglers first and I'm not like throwing off a joint Instagram post, you know. That's not how I'm going to handle it. But I love him. I think he loves me. I think we will remain friends.
No one did anything. It wasn't like a bad thing. I think we both were just being really mature and saying what we want and what we didn't want. And I think that's like extremely powerful to be able to voice like how you're feeling in real time and what you want for your future. Wow.
wow you're so fucking strong for being in a public relationship and putting yourself out there and you guys you both like fought really hard for this and wanting to make it work and I do have to say shout out to Craig because
Reality TV dating is really hard and I remember when you found him He was the first guy who really like lifted you up and was so yeah, who like got he got you He was so proud of you for what you were accomplishing like on TV and off TV and you hadn't had a guide support you like that He's a huge reason for like who you are in the last couple of years becoming who you are and
Oh my God, thank you for saying that because I would have not even been able to say that to the gigglers. He truly helped me grow so much in these past three years. I am a different person than when I started dating him. I truly do feel more mature, more confident, all of these things, and that's definitely a tribute to him.
It's just so weird to talk about it. It's just so weird. It's also weird because we forget people listen to the pot and I think why we're nervous is we know more people will listen in to get the tea. Yeah, no, that's what it is. We know that it's non gigglers listening. We're like, yes, because I'm like beta blocker episode. Once I got into the story, I was like, girls, listen up.
This is like, I feel awkward because I don't want to say anything that can be taken and misconstrued about him or about the breakup or any of it. To make this about me? Yeah, please. What was hardest about it for me? No, what was hardest about this relationship was that there wasn't a smoking gun. And I think the positive for like anyone who's listening right now is that relationships don't just end because there was a murder suicide.
Like relationships don't just end because there's a sand of all or like something or he's, you know, doing fucked up things. The hardest relationship I think to get out of is sometimes when you're like, I love this person. Do I want to be with this partner forever? And am I the same person I was four years ago? And I think for anyone listening,
I love a breakup. They're scary, but they're empowering. And I'm excited to see like where you both go from here. And I just have to say of a lot of the guys that do reality TV. He's definitely one of the better ones that's crossed my path.
No, he's definitely the best boyfriend I've ever had. I couldn't truly say that. He was a great boyfriend and he did everything correct and he never made me feel insecure or anything like that. It almost is harder when no one's done anything to be mad about, and that's hard. I have a lot of
Empathy for people who are unreality in dating. There's a reason why a lot of housewives are not in healthy relationships And it's not for the week no, it's it's not for the week and it's not even I think maybe like why I was so nervous to say it is because
I try and like live my life and be like, I don't care what people think about me. And that's just not true. I care a frickin' lot. So like, don't get down on yourself when you're like, when people are like, oh, you care too much what people think. Like, okay, sorry. Like, yeah, it's human nature. I want people to like, feel good around me and like me and all of this.
I think also saying it publicly, I feel mean. I feel like a bad person because I know there's so many people that are like, how are you two not getting engaged and how is this whatever. It's just a tough thing and it's a tough world to be in and I want to feel like I'm being vulnerable and authentic.
specifically to the gigglers, but I also want to be like classy about it and like say everything in the correct way because I don't want things to be misconstrued of like that we hate each other or that like something happened or whatever. It's really just like two people growing and changing and like things that they want in their lives changing and like
I feel like I've been very vocal on the pod about how I hated turning 30. Everyone around that had turned 30 was like, you're being dramatic. It's the same thing as 29, and I really had a problem with it. Probably because I'm so vain and narcissistic, but whatever. I just didn't like getting older. I love being 32. I've never felt more myself than in this past year. Give me a cry. Give me a squat tour.
Like even though giggly squad tour I had like my first panic attack ever and that was the craziest time of my life I'm so like thankful for it because
Like the connection I feel like I formed with the gigglers became even deeper and I just felt like so myself this year I loved throwing myself into work like I loved doing everything I was doing and it was stressful and it was hard but like I just felt very mean. And it's so funny because four years ago if I told you what we did these last six months and what we created and what you push yourself through, I don't think you would have believed me. No, I would have been like I'm staying in bed. That sounds like a lot.
And also, I think one of the things that I get the most insecure about is I am 32. And so a lot of times the rhetoric online and directed at me is, you're 32. Shouldn't you pack it in and get married and you're not a kid anymore?
And while I fully acknowledge I'm not a child, you also don't have to use the phrase pack it in when you're talking about the rest of your life as a woman. Let's stop with the word geriatric I've been seeing on WebMD. Yeah, like, so if you're mad that I'm not mature enough to like get married. It's not maturity. It's not maturity. Then you, yeah, then you don't get me at all. Like you can be 32 and decide to change the entire course of your life.
You don't have to get married and have a baby because you think you have to. Just because you're in your 30s does not mean you're running out of time. You can choose to do whatever you want. There were timelines back then, and back then was very different.
Women were not allowed to get a credit card until 1975. Of course, the only thing, their only accomplishment that they were told to do was have a baby with the husband they met at 18 who took their virginity and they didn't know what any other dick felt like. So they were stuck with that one dick. Right.
Not to go on a whole rampage right now. It does annoy me when you have people put timelines on people. And I do have to say reality TV producers put timelines on you because they're kind of like, what's your story? This season can't be the same as last season. What's the new story? And sometimes relationships aren't like that.
And obviously, I don't control what happens on our shows or what they show, what they don't show, what storylines are. I'm just living my life and they're painting a picture around it. So I get that people are like, oh, it was always, was she, wasn't she moving? But that was my life. Sorry, I couldn't move forward for you.
We both did not anticipate the amount of passion we'd have for Gigli Squad and the stuff you have based in New York. No, Gigli Squad's my whole life. We didn't anticipate it. Gigli Squad is my whole life. It's truly the only thing I care about. I love Daphne, but I love Gigli Squad. And she's part of Gigli Squad, so it's a Venn diagram. Can I say something controversial? Truly is.
You keep bringing up the beta blocker episode. I was told by a therapist who I've since fired, I'm just kidding, but the anxiety comes from when you feel like you're not being your authentic self, you're not in alignment with what you should do.
and i remember during tour when you start having panic attacks thinking like this isn't because of the gigglers this isn't because you don't love performing this isn't because you don't love your outfit there's other stuff going on in your life that you're trying to figure out and you're feeling a little stuck and i think
And I don't think I like saw it. I like fully, you were like, I'm nervous about going on stage and I'm like, no, you're not. Like you never were. Yeah, I just, I didn't feel aligned like in myself and I'm someone that's very, very in touch with my body. Like perfect example. I know when I have a UTI. I know when I have a yeast infection. Like I've never had a pregnancy scare. Like I fuck. My favorite is when Paige cancels plans because she feels a UTI coming on.
But that's real. I know when they're coming out. I will say, I feel very in tune with how my body feels. And so when my body, and this has happened to me in the past, this isn't the first time, when my body does kind of betray me in a moment.
I do know like, oh fuck, I'm ignoring something so big and I'm trying to act like it's not a big deal and like it is. And to listen to your body, like don't take it as like I'm fucked up, take it as, ooh what is this message? It's not just that you're gluten intolerant, it's that your body's, it's giving you that like fight or flight response and you're like what the fuck I'm just sitting here about to perform, why am I treating this like a lion's chasing me?
But I also do think that in your 20s, you date because you're like, this guy's great. I'm into him. Let's go. And then as you approach 30, it becomes like I feel like you guys could have dated for a long time.
Yes, well, people get so much more serious, obviously, in their 30s, and people, you take it more seriously. But that doesn't mean you're locked in. Obviously, the message I want to send across to this episode is giving the gigglers information about my life of what's going on, so they're in the loop. But also,
If you are in the same situation that I am in right now and you're in your 30s and you're like, but I'm so torn and I don't know what to do and I this is the first time I've never had a plan or the first time I don't know what the next five years is like that's where you should be at.
Not everyone who's married and has kids feels like they know what the next five years of their life is or know what the plan is. They just may know some of the people that might be around, but they don't also know. They're not better than you because they may seem like they have it all together because they're married and have children. You are worth just as much as a single 32-year-old woman.
You have thoughts, ideas, and things you want to do. Hey, fuck you, man. And you don't have to put them in the back seat because your eggs might dry up in a little.
And then there's the thought of like, on my end as someone who is married, I'm petrified of having kids and it slowing down everything that I've worked so hard to accomplish. We're like, I'm now having momentum and I feel like if I have kids, is it going to? I'm going to lose my identity of the person I worked so hard to create. So y'all, we in this bitch.
No, we're in there. We're in this, we're in this bitch. Never and don't freaking moment with us. And I do have to say one other thing about reality TV is that why people love it is it's very like WWE. I was watching documentary about WWE and it's funny because they would just like create storylines and they wouldn't know how the audience would react. They just wanted the audience to react and they wanted to make it clear like
who the villain was, who the good person is. And you can enjoy Southern Charm, Summer House, whatever, but just know, on Giggly Squad, it's not black and white. There's not a villain, there's not a good, like, this is two people who love each other. And just remember that they, yeah, these are two people who had an amazing experience with each other. And actually, to keep it on the Bravo theme, I remember one of my first ever interviews was with Margaret Josephs on New Jersey.
And she was telling me how she had a husband and then left him for the contractor. And I was like, do you regret marrying your husband? And she was like, no. And I was like, but you fucked a contractor. And she was like, no, because at that time in my life, he was perfect for me. And he's exactly what I needed. And I love him to death.
And it was kind of this beautiful thing of, we're like taught, like you wake up, if you wake up, you come out of your mom's pussy, you wake up, and you're searching for Prince Charming, which is everything we like talk about de-centering on this pod, which is not okay. And also that like, you're not just gonna find that one person, there's gonna be different people for different stages of your life. Honestly, and this is like me being so truthful, you will not hear me say a bad thing about Craig. I have nothing bad to say about him, he truly let me
feel all my feelings, like go through like everything that like would pop into my head and I'm so beyond grateful for that. Like his family, his friends are like all amazing people. Yeah, I just, I stand with the early 30s single girlies. I love that for you. I also, I feel like me and the single early 30s girls, gigglers,
Just got exponential. There's something very powerful about her a girl who's single in her early 30s So yeah, I don't think the gigglers were expecting this type of episode But here we freakin are life like comes at you so fast I think one other thing that I'm really grappling with and if anyone's like going through a breakup or like a change in career or anything and
It's not that I love where my life is at. I truly can say that I wake up every morning and I really am like, okay, fuck yeah, I do, I love my life. I think it's more the fact that you have to come to terms with the fact that your life is not what you thought it would be. Whether it's better or worse, it's just not what you thought it would be. I truly do feel like my life is better than what I was imagining when I was
16 years old, like, oh, yeah, by 32. Are you kidding? I'll have two kids. It's not that. And that would have been amazing too. It's better, but getting over the fact that it's not what you made up in your head is like kind of a thing.
You're not the person you were when you were seven years old and you were just taught from society what your life should be. I mean, I didn't think I'd be 33 married and not in the mood for children. Right. Have you ever seen a 33-year-old in a movie in the 90s? They literally are like grandmas.
Yeah. There was no thought in my mind that I would be like, no, I want to work. If you told 16-year-old Paige, like, no, you're going to be like, I want to work on my career. I'd be like, fuck that bitch. Pack it in. Take a nap.
But that just like I grew up to not be like that and I did not see that coming. What's that quote that like whenever you make a plan, God laughs at it? I think if we're gonna go back to something that's very giggly-coated, this reminds me of like the concept of karma. And me and you will always talk about this. Like when someone wrongs you, you can like try to be like, oh, I'm gonna get revenge. This is what I'm gonna do. Natural karmic cycle that's gonna happen by you stepping back and focusing on yourself.
The universe is so much more creative than anything you could come up with. You just put good energy into the world and watch it come back. And that's how I feel with your plans. We both put it out there that we want to express ourselves. We want to make people laugh. We want to be kind. We want to be creative. And that's how Gigli Squad happened. And when things don't match up with that, that's OK.
Plans are a fucking social construct in your own little teenager head. I've been sending you a lot of inspirational quotes. You've been sending a lot of inspirational things. Now that we're getting into our mental health moments, it's that the universe will keep sending you the same thing to see if you learned your lesson yet. And it'll keep giving you the same result. And then once you can get the balls to evolve and change and do the hard thing,
then good things will happen because if everyone could do the hard thing, then everything would be easy. But it's not the hard thing is hard and you did something really difficult and it was confusing. Yeah. And I think like one of like, which I'm like almost mad about myself was like saying it publicly because I was just like, Oh my God, what are like people going to like make like construe of this and like,
No, so like I don't know whether to like laugh or cry or like and obviously like there are days where I'm just like what am I doing? Like who am I? What do I want? Where am I going? Like and it's confusing and it's hard and I feel like people are just walking around acting like their 30s are so easy like here's a perfect example on how you and I are very different I feel like you're very vocal about how your 20s you were like
I'm flailing. I have no idea what the fuck's going on. You hated your 20s. I loved my 20s. Could not have been more in my vibe in my 20s. Had a job. I didn't really give a fuck about. Had so many fun friends. All I did was party. All I did was go out and go on dates.
I didn't live at college. I lived at home for college. When I moved to New York, I really felt like I was finding myself. I loved my 20s. My 30s have been a little bit more difficult than I had planned. Well, because you have to start taking responsibility for some shit. How dare you.
No, no, no, you actually made a good point because
Things like in my 20s that I would be insecure about, I feel like I've really, in my 30s, had to be like, it's enough. And enough with being insecure about that, like deal with that, and move on.
And one of the things in my 20s was like, oh my God, what if I didn't have a boyfriend? I'm like, what if you wanna marry me? And then I loved having a boyfriend in my 20s. And now in my 30s, I'm like, why are you so fucking insecure about that? Wow, you've been meeting with energy healers. I was just gonna say, the girlies that are going through breakups, I've been doing the stuff.
I've been putting in the time. I've been seeing my energy healers. I've seen two psychics. I'm obsessed with that. I'm like, do I start Reiki? You're about to get a degree from Harvard. You're going to start. You're doing Pilates again every day. I mean, you already have bangs. That should have been a. Actually, I did start working. I did start working out again because I was like, I need some like.
natural dopamine. I always say that breakups are like when you get fired from a job, which you know is my favorite hobby, because whenever you leave something you level up. Like if you're a corporate girly, the way you get a big raise is by leaving that job for the next job and then you just keep growing. And I do think there's this crazy time in your 20s where first you're just like, oh, boyfriends are fun. What can I get? Who can I see? Who can I be with?
And then when you realize that the wrong person is actually like so much worse than you being single, then you start having this mentality of like, okay, I love me. I don't like me with the wrong person. And I love me with the right person. And that's when you start being smart.
I traumatized myself in my 20s. I traumatized myself. If anyone knew me in my 20s or knew any of the guys that I dated in my 20s, then you know that I traumatized myself. And so I think when I got out of my previous relationship and I was single and I met Craig, I finally figured it out. I'm gonna be with someone that loves the fuck out of me and I'm gonna
This is all happening the way it's supposed to be. And I don't think I realized that I didn't give myself time to get over those men in my 20s and be alone. You wanted Craig to heal those, and that's not his job.
Yeah, I think I look to him to heal certain things on why I dated, who I dated. Yes, there are some girls that just pop out of the womb and they're confident. I was not one of them. Maybe in my teens, I was confident because I didn't know any better. You know, maybe it's a two-month-old when my skin was perfect.
When I peaked at four years old on the easy bake oven, yeah, that was my freaking time. I was at my goal weight of 72 pounds. But like, no, I think I was, I probably got my most insecure. When I was like 19 or 20, I dated like a really physically and mentally abusive man. And it changed my whole course of like dating in my twenties. And so then I looked for like chaos and I looked for like,
pure, just adrenaline and emotion, and I was like, this is so fun, and this is so crazy. So I would get out of one bad relationship and get into a slightly better one, but by standards, very bad. And I just filled this pattern until I was 26. Thought I was dating someone that like, okay, this is normal, and I was like, no, this is not, I can't do this either. And so it's hard to not look at yourself as a girl and be like, maybe I am the problem.
Maybe it is me. And in part, like yes, it was definitely like people I would pick in the past. Like I put myself in a lot of situations, but also at a lot of times it wasn't my fault. Like it truly wasn't. Like I was just vibing and people were fucked up. So like it wasn't my fault.
And so to be in my early 30s and be like, hey, bitch, you're fine. Like I'm thankful for. I don't regret any of my relationships because I would have never learned certain things about myself. And I don't even know if I've ever even said that on the pod, that I was in an abusive relationship before. But I feel like if I'm going to say it, this is the episode I would say it because I know for a fact, a ton of other girls have been in them too. Now cry again.
Don't cry. It was definitely like a very weird time of my life. I was 19. I was 20 years old. I couldn't even legally drink.
And it really did change a lot of how I looked at relationships. I'd never been exposed to that ever. I never thought that that could be me. I would hear people say, oh, you get brainwashed. And I'm like, there's just no way. And I was fully brainwashed. I didn't even, until I got out of that, I didn't even know that person. And obviously, I don't think about that now because it was over 10 years ago. But that was one of your first relationships.
Yeah, and so it definitely changed a lot of like how I dated and I'm not like ashamed. I used to be very ashamed of it. Like I would never tell anyone and I'm not ashamed of it at all because I'm really proud of myself on how I handled it and how I handled it afterward and I'm.
proud of myself on talking about it and letting girls know, it can literally happen to everyone. I feel like a lot of gigglers see me as very confident, but it also happened to me. That doesn't make you not confident. No, but guys like that go for confident women. They try to find confident women that they can bring down a manipulator, groom, and it was never your fault. If anything, you were shining so bright, you wanted to dim your light.
Sometimes a relationship like that, you don't know, but you're coping with it by trying to convince yourself that you can handle that. I'm not a therapist. I don't know the extent of it, but I know that I was going for guys who were not emotionally available because I wasn't emotionally available because I didn't want to get hurt because I wanted to protect myself.
And line story short is like, thank you for being so vulnerable and open, because you don't have to give us any of this information. No, but you know what? I do. It's not that I feel like I have to give it to the gigglers, but like, here's one thing about me. I am loyal and protective and I'll be damned if I was going to see online people coming at the gigglers and being like, you don't know what's going on with Paige. Like, and the gigglers being like, yeah, we do. Like, yes, the gigglers will always fucking know first what's going on with me.
If they've been listening, they know that it's been this thing of you being busy and your career and what you're trying to prioritize. And also, yeah, you joked a lot about him, but it shows how nice of a guy Craig is that he loves when you make fun of him. He loves the banter, and that was part of the fun of your relationship. He loved you poking fun at him and stuff.
People also don't factor in, yeah, the third lens that's in the relationship, which is the public eye. Wait, there was a new gigler that DM'd me and he's like, hey, I'm a new gigler. I'm a guy, but I'm gay. Like, where do I stand in this? And I'm like, oh my God, you missed the episode. You're a gigler. You're actually very important in the gigler. You're actually really high above the hierarchy. Yeah, so we need you. We need you in these streets. How do you feel?
I feel like the last piece of the puzzle was saying it out loud. I haven't said it to literally anyone. Nobody knows this. My family and my very, very close friends know this, but nobody else. I think the last part for me was saying it to the gigglers.
And seeing what would come out of my mouth when I said it to the gigglers, because I was like, this is something I'm not rehearsing what I'm going to say, but also I want to be thoughtful and organic.
Yeah, and it's not going to be cut up for a three minute scene. Right. And so I, I'm like thankful for the gigglers for like knowing me and like knowing me at my core. And so, and like giving me this space to be able to say like how I truly feel without feeling like so judged, even though I know there's like a lot of non gigglers probably listening to this right now, which like happy to have you. Thank you for the engagement.
Also, you may be a gigler if you like to make fun of yourself. Stay swipe up. New merch just drop. Our book comes out available for pre-order, which we actually do get into a lot more deeper stuff in the book. But I do think with you, this is important for the giglers because anything moving forward that you speak on, like they have to know what you've been through and they have to know every single
Part of the journey so that we all can understand each other and I do think like page of four years ago wouldn't have done this No, here's another thing for the gigos. Yeah every time I do something in my life thinking back like Would 25 year old page even believe this? No, she would have ran away so fucking quick or she would have just like been Gone with the flow. She was such a go with the flow girl and
So like there is a sense of like I'm really proud of myself for like being like how do you feel? Okay, that's how you feel. What do you want to do about it? Okay? That's what you want to do like then we're gonna do it and then like doing it seeing it through and then being like and you came out the other side and like you are fine like every crazy scenario you made up in your head whether it happened or it didn't like you're fine and I think that's like
If any giggler needs to hear that, like, you are fine. You're going to be fine. He's going to be fine. Like, why am I crying that? Also, this could be totally off and this might not pertain to you, but could pertain to other people. But I was thinking about, like, when you're in a relationship where someone treats you horribly and does not respect you, the way to cope is to not respect yourself.
Yeah, I wasn't in that. I still like loved myself. I wasn't in that. And like then when you get treated badly in the future, you're just like, well, I don't care because it's fine. It's not a big deal. I'm not you're not hurting me. This has to do with friendships. If you're in a place right now that you're not happy, you do not have to stay in it.
and you're not selfish, you're not being a bitch. Because next week, you could be in a different room with all different people and having a completely different experience than you were this. That was your biggest fear. You've always been so afraid of change.
Yeah, I've always been really afraid of change. My last boyfriend, when we broke up, I was like, I'm so happy I can laugh about it now. I was so terrified that none of my friends would stay friends with me. I felt like they were gonna be so mad at me that I was breaking up with this guy and that I wasn't ever gonna be able to go out anymore. I wasn't gonna be invited anyplace. And I definitely lost some friends. I had some friends truly do that.
And it was not as bad as I thought it was going to be. I think that was the biggest takeaway. People who would leave that easy. Right. I was like, oh, you don't fuck with me anymore. Great. I've been not fucking with you. Any scenario that you've created in your head that you're like, that's going to be the worst. Even if it plays out, it's not as bad as like you thought it was going to be in your head.
oh my god thank god i have a kitty again thank god i got a fucking cat i'm because her just purring on my chest i'm like
the world's okay. The life is worth living. I do have to say, if you guys are having a rough time, go to your local adoption shelter, find the cutest fucking kitten in there, take it and pretty much 98% of your problems will be solved. And that's just science. That's just science. We didn't plan this, by the way, because we don't do admin. I thought you were going to come on, say kind of a simple statement. Me too. Yeah.
Let me do. Yeah, this took a turn. I thought I was gonna say like a quick hit. And then we were gonna resume the episode like normal. But I just couldn't. I couldn't go into like, Blake Lively just about doing what's going on. What's going on? Like, I really, I don't actually have the mental capacity to read any of those articles, watch any of the videos because I'm doing my own trauma right now. But truly, I did not expect
I certainly didn't expect to tell everyone about my 19-year-old boyfriend, but it feels right. It felt like this episode felt organic. And if we learned anything from this episode, if you enjoy Giggly Squad because you enjoy the comedy, you now realize it's because both of us have dark, dark demons.
That's not great over here. We're only sarcastic because we've had major trauma that we will not argue. We refuse. And it's for the good of the gigglers because we would not be this funny. This one is unpack your traumas page venting to me on a pot of me going, you're so right. You're literally so right. Now let's go back to being stupid.
Sorry that this is like right before me. I didn't want to ruin your I didn't want to ruin everyone's Christmas, but like I will ruin your New Year's Eve I don't believe in love anymore also guys stop with that. I can't with the like
I don't believe in love anymore when a relationship fall apart that like you don't know anything about. They were very good looking together. We all can acknowledge that and let's not project that onto them. I think this is this is a cool ending. That was cool. Thank you so
much for going through this journey with me and letting me be able to freely speak and not worry about how it's going to be edited, how it's going to be cut up, what people are going to say about it, who did what, all the speculation, thank you for giving me this platform of all of these amazing gigglers. It's truly therapeutic for me to say how I feel and what I'm going through and know that there's girls out there that whether they take
a minute of this to like relate to or a second of it. Like I'm thankful for it and just thank you and I love you all. We love you guys so much. Thank you for giggling, for crying, for everything. Enjoy time with your family or don't or don't. It's not okay to cry on the internet. It is okay to cry on your own podcast. Yes. And that's just science. Bye guys.
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