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Oh, yeah, sympathy for the devil. I am any toner-ish folks who's got intentions to have been stolen, but don't worry. I'm here to help you get them back. You may be soft and succulent at the beginning of this process of hanging there. Before long, you will be lean and mean, guaranteed. Just like our guest today, Christine. Friend.
I've been around for a long, long years, so many amends, so to speak. I was around when Jesus Christ had his moment of doubt and pain. Me damn sure the fighter washed his hands. Let's see if it's fake. Yeah, she's here today, folks. I've wanted to have this woman on for a long time.
Um, I watched her go from very heavy, morbid little beast online. And you know, you see people over and over again. And, um, all of a sudden you see when they start to shrink, you know, certain people that follow me on, on the Twitter, I think they call it X nowadays. People like Scott Mallion.
See, he's losing weight. He's losing so much weight. He's out there singing. I saw the man singing the other day on X. And boy, he's got some pipes. And then there's people like Scott King. Yeah. Yeah. Those people like Robin Dobbins, she wasn't even trying to lose weight. She was just losing her mind. Yeah, she was in all sorts of drugs. And she went, I'm just going to go a little carb and see if I can get rid of some of these problems.
She lost some weight. She looked good before. Now you should see her. And wow, you should see her husband. That guy is a lot. I want to say he's lost 100 pounds. Folks doing things right is not that difficult. And when you look at Christine Trump, it's the same thing. I'm going to guess that the woman's lost north of 100 pounds, but we're going to find out from her folks, none other than this Christine Trump. Yeah.
Christine, before you start speaking, I need to tell everyone, you know, we're promoting a book today. Uh, you have a new book out. It's called sugar freed. And for EED sugar freed, uh, it's stopped losing the weight loss battle, start gaining the victory. Yeah. Look, with a title like that, you can only imagine what's in the book.
So I would suggest you go out and get it right now. All right, Christine? Absolutely. Wouldn't love that. So, look, I mean, you told me right before the show, you're faith-based. And I said, OK, I'll try to keep the F word out of it. And you said, I would appreciate that because my mom wants to listen. And so, OK, so I started the show with a song called Symphony for the Devil. So you might want to tell your mom to go ahead by about
two minutes. Okay. That song took me back a few years, right? Yeah. Well, you're not old enough to really know that song. Are you? Yeah. Yeah, for sure. How old are we? I am 57, 57. Okay. Hang on. You. All right. Listen, you don't look anywhere near. All right. If someone would have said guess, guess at how old you are,
Yes. I would have said that early mid 40s. Oh, thank you. That's very kind of you. I appreciate that. I'm shocked that you almost grew up on the same music as me. We're five years apart. OK. Yeah. Yeah. So actually, I'm going to be 58 on March 18, 2025. All right. Yeah. So yeah, we're about four and a half years apart. Yeah. Yes.
So, Christine, tell us about your journey. And, you know, I want all the ugly. So, you know, how did it... Were you fat as a kid? Were you an athlete? Look, I hear every story there is. What's your story? Yeah, unfortunately, I did have several periods of chubbiness in my childhood, especially when, like, puberty started rolling around. I was a chubby kid.
one of the first girls in my elementary school to develop. And so I got picked on, I got bullied, all the things, all that childhood trauma that impacted me. Fortunately, God made me a pretty resilient person. So I didn't carry the heavy baggage of that around too much. But yeah, but then I did get a little bit thinner in high school. If
But I thought it was fat, Vinny. I thought it was fat when I graduated from high school. And now when I look back, I realize I only weighed 119 pounds when I graduated from high school. OK, well, hang on. So OK, you know, I got to break into your story already. Yeah. How tall are you when you when you're in high school? Oh, five. I'm five one. OK, so not very tall. So at 119, you're not fat. No, I was not very fat.
But you see, back in our day, so I'm going to guess you hit high school probably 81 ish. I'm just doing some quick math. And back in those days, and look, I've told the story and people hate when I tell these stories, Christine. But, you know, one of the cheerleaders, now I went to one of those Southern high school where, you know, it's Friday night lights.
Everything is football, football, football. And, you know, if you're on the football team, you're basically a celebrity in the South. It's crazy. And look, I went to a little tiny Catholic high school with a football tradition, right? They just lost out of playoffs this year. They go to state every second or third year. No one understands how they do this. It's one of those small schools, not many kids in it, but the tradition goes back
for decades, right? So the cheerleaders, you know, like one of the cheerleaders that was cheering for me in high school, cheered against me. She was on a D1 cheerleading squad at LSU and I played for Tulane. So Sheila, who's my close friend, I was playing for Tulane, she was cheering against me and I called her and was like, Sheila, how could you? How could, can you just be quiet tonight and maybe not cheer?
Yeah. But that's the kind of tradition. Okay. I'm not talking about Sheila here, but one of the other girls, she had ripped abs. She had her legs were ripped because our cheerleaders, they didn't just go rah, rah, rah. They had to flip around and do pyramids and jumping up. You know, jumping up. You know, they looked like the real show wasn't on the field. It was on the sideline. There was one girl is very athletic.
ripped out stomach, the whole thing. We called her the chunky chick. Ooh. And by the way, she had no fat. Yeah. It was just that her butt was a little more bubbly. That was considered the chunky chick. Yeah. Yeah. Right back in 19. And people think when I say that I'm being mean or rude, you thought you were chunky and fat. Yeah. Yes. At 119.
Yeah. And it's probably because of all those years that I was teased as in, in elementary school and middle school. And then I did then out a little bit in high school. But yeah, I, that's, I felt I was not athletic by any means. I was not, I did not have ripped, ripped, ripped abs or anything. Right. So, yeah, I was a little mushy, but I definitely wasn't overweight or obese or anything like, like I got to be.
Remember the ad, Special K, if you could pinch an inch. Remember that? Yeah, actually, yes. Can you remember before they called them supermodels? Can you remember any of the models back in the day? Any of the big models? If I threw up names, I can picture them. I can't think of any names though. If I said Twiggy, would you know, the woman's name was Twiggy.
Yes. Yeah. You remember Twiggy, right? She literally looked like a twig. A twig, yes. You know, Kate Moss was like the second generation of the super thin, you know, wavy models, but she came on the back of the women before her. The twiggy was her name. Yeah. Right. And, you know, they were all like that back in the 70s.
in 60s. Yeah, my wife, who's a year older than me, she's 63. Before she became an actress, she started off as one of those models. She was in Europe. And she basically modeled for a lot of these German bikini companies in this end of the whole thing. You couldn't have an extra ounce on you back in those days. And when you ask her what the diet was for those women,
Right. They were all a certain height. They all have to be a perfect height, like five, nine, and they all have to weigh like one 10 to one 15 or some weird number. Right. And she said, what was it like? She was like, we go out to restaurants in Paris and honor a salad and sit there and look at it while we're smoking a cigarette. That that was their diet, looking at a salad while smoking a cigarette. Yeah. Wow. Wow.
that that was the world. Now, look, none of that was super healthy, but that's that's what was being portrayed. That's why a Christine. Yes, who's 119 pounds think she's a blimp. Yeah, right. Yep. Yes. Now to mention the emotional baggage that I carried around for being bullied when I was chubby as a kid. Well, fast forward. I went away to college when I was 18 and
I became a statistic very quickly. You know how they typically say you gain the freshman 15? Yeah. I came home with the freshman 40, at least. Oh, wow. Yeah. So that's really when I can look back and see, like, my metabolic health started going downhill and, you know, I was eating in a cafeteria.
I really didn't have a whole lot of choices and what I was eating. And I wasn't being cognizant of what I was eating either. So, but yeah, I came home for my freshman year with an extra 40 pounds at least. And that's kind of how my metabolic health journey for the detriment of my health started. Well, can I be more clear? Was it, you didn't come home that first semester, you didn't come home at Christmas time. It was the end of it. So it took you the whole year.
to put on 40 pounds. Yeah. And really when I noticed it is like during the summertime after my freshman year of college, I was wearing shorts and I don't know, I must have bought new shorts or something, but then I went to go try out my jeans as fall approached in Michigan. You know, we're getting back into jeans and sweatshirt, whether my jeans did not fit at all. And I had to go up many sizes. And that was like, that was my big wake up call.
Yeah, it's pretty scary. We pumped the head right to college, but can I just take one step back to childhood again? Yes. The bullying, because I was a bully. Do you ever read my book, Fitness Confidential? No, I haven't yet. Yeah. We thought about putting more of the bullying, because bullying now, as kids get bullied, I go crazy when kids get bullied, because I was bullied in a big way.
You know, I had all kinds of issues, speech impediments that came from a hearing, I was hearing impaired as a kid and they were able to fix it through operations and, but now I still have the speech impairment. And it's kind of why, you know, I went to our Catholic school. It's, it's the major reason why I don't follow any religion because the nuns were as mean to me as the other kids.
You know, as a matter of fact, my older brother brought it up to my wife the other day and talked about how he was trying to protect me. He was when you're older than me when we were kids. And he goes, I couldn't protect him. You know, it was just on. And my wife goes, wow, no one any families ever talked about until Michael Michael just brought it up out of the blue one day when they were talking. But yeah, so you were bullied. How young were you when that was going on?
started developing in the third grade. So I can really, that's like when I can pinpoint when I started being chubby as well too and looking back on family pictures. So it started then, I can actually remember, I still live in the hometown that I grew up in. So I can remember the boys that would bully me that would make fun of my development and my chubbiness.
And I can also remember one time an adult saying something. We used to camp a lot as a family. And we always did it with my parents' friends. And I used to be a really tiny, really tiny child. When I went to kindergarten, my mom said I was still wearing toddler size clothes because I'm not very tall. And I was always very tiny. And I can remember hearing this adult say about that time I got chubby. He said, what happened to her? She used to be so tiny.
And that never really left me like that stuck with me for years. And I thought there was something wrong with me at that, you know, being in third grade when I was eight, eight years old. And that never really left me. I still remember that clearly from sitting around the campfire and that man saying that about me. So can you almost just like with me, it's I run into those people now as, you know, 60 something year old men and women.
Yeah. And they'll see me in Donaldsonville whenever I'm there. I don't even go to my hometown that often anymore. I just go to my brother's hometown, you know, temperature or Baton Rouge, one of those brothers and just stay there. My parents come to visit there. So I barely go back to my hometown, but I'll run into people that I grew up with. And they'll, Hey, man, I'm a big fan. Love you book. Watch your movies, the whole thing. Right. And I'm looking at them going,
You treated me like dog crap. Now we're friends, now we're good. It's sad, right? And I saw some of it changing when I became a good athlete. So it's like, I saw it in real time. It's like the people cheering and I write about that in my book. The people who are now cheering for, not Sheila Saraj, we were always friends.
except for when she would tell us, you know, I went to Tulane. But, you know, luckily there were girls like Sheila and her sister, Susie, right, who were good friends, right? They were just sweet. There were a lot of sweet girls and guys, right? That were my friends. To the point where whenever, whenever, I get weird even talking about it,
When I got popular because I was able to tackle the other kid with the ball really well, I was still the nerd in my head. I was still the kid they got picked on. That never leaves you, right, Christine? Yeah, absolutely. For sure. I would get invited to parties at the cool kids' parties, and I would go, OK, I'll come, but my friends have to come, meaning my nerdy backwards friends. Yes. And they would be like, oh,
Really? They say, yeah, they got to come too, or I'm not coming. Right? Because I didn't want to be friends with them anyway. Right? But yeah, at 60 years old, you're still 62. I run into him and I go, just like if you ran into your dad's friends, he's still alive. Do you know if he's still alive? I don't think so. I think he's long gone. Good. He deserves it. Yeah.
Yeah, you understand what I'm saying. Oh, absolutely. You know, my Steven Greece was that I had good girlfriends that from elementary school age that are actually still my best friends to this day. So they were like maybe my nerdy friends too, right? But so we all had each other. They would never let me down, never disappoint me. But as I got older and I was like living with morbid obesity, I always felt like I never fit in anywhere.
And I talk about that a lot, not fitting in. Like I literally didn't fit in roller coaster seats. I almost didn't fit in airplane seats. I never felt like I fit into a room full of beautiful women. Like if I walked into a woman's event. So that's really something that I've had to heal from. Like emotionally, this weight loss journey has not been just about healing my physical body. It's been like even more importantly about healing the rest of my health.
my spiritual health, my physical, my emotional health and the physical healing has been amazing, wonderful benefit. But yeah, the emotional part of the journey, I always tell the women that I help. It's the most difficult part of the journey. You know, you know, it's crazy to hear you say that you would walk into a room full of beautiful women because I'm sitting here looking at a beautiful woman. Right. And I've seen
I've seen the fat pictures of you. You were beautiful back. You know, when you got your looks, there's no amount of fat that's going to take that beauty away. Oh, thank you. Right. And to think that you would walk into a room with what you thought beauty should be. Yeah. And didn't feel like you measured up when you clearly measure up, right? And I think that happens to a lot of people.
where you feel less than because, you know, oh, wait, I have extra weight on me, right? I'm sure you didn't hear the show that I put out today. And it came out today, but go back and listen, it's, the show didn't, it started off one way and it went into a different direction. My younger brother, who's never been on the show before, the one that's always over 300 pounds, came on and
It was no holds barred. You know, he just started talking very frankly about eating and the addiction of eating, which we're going to get into because we're talking about your book today, sugar freed. Folks, sugar freed will be part of the Vinnie book club over at VinnieTrotors.com. It's going to be there. Go check it out. It's going to be Debbie will put it at the top so you guys can find it for the holidays. It's out right now, right?
No, it's not up till January 21st. Oh geez. Okay, guys, you can't get it until January.
It's been up for pre-sale in December. Yeah, towards the end of December. Well, they let me put it on my link. Well, can I put a link yet? Well, I will have a page dedicated to the book and that means I'll have an Amazon link. So I'll get you one as soon as possible. ASAP, because all right. So this show is not coming out this week, obviously.
Let's see, can we hold it? It's not coming out this week. I hope you get that link next week. OK, yeah. I think the link will be available December 21st. This is going to be close. OK, I will see if I can hold the show next week, but I'm not sure I can. This time of year is difficult because, you know, shows are weird going into the new years. Yeah. Anyway,
folks, the book will be available to you guys. Do you talk about any of this in the book about being bullied? And yes, yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Yep. It's all part of the journey. My book is not just a weight loss book.
It's a, it's a healing journey. It's a healing book, like restoring my body, renewing my mind, which was where all the emotional work sets and then redeeming my spiritual walk. Cause that like my faith has been so important to me in this healing journey. And I think it's really like, was the foundation that got me going to where I needed to go. Okay. So now that we're there, right, we know that you, you've gone through this period.
of thinking you're fat when you're 119 pounds, walking into a room full of women and thinking that you're less than. I'm going to guess along the way sometime after you came home with the freshman 40, which is a whole new number we've never heard before. But I think if a lot of women were honest, we would hear more women telling that same story. Yes. Right.
When does the no woman just starts with the first diet? How many talk to me about all the crazy stuff that you could have possibly have gone through in your journey? Because people need to hear that you're not special and different by losing the weight you've lost, right? No, absolutely not. Actually, the first diet that I attempted was my roommate and I from college during my junior year.
We drove from Adrian, Michigan down to Toledo, Ohio, because there's Adrian where I went to college was farm country. We drove down to Toledo, Ohio, which was about a 45 minute drive each week to go to Weight Watchers. So that was the first time I registered for Weight Watchers. So, and then Vinnie, I spent 30 years yo, yo dieting in and out of Weight Watchers.
a medical weight loss center, South Beach diet. And I'll tell you about the craziest thing I did. I was in a hospital supervised weight loss program and I drank nothing but liquid protein shakes for 10 months. That's all. Hang on. Hang on. Yeah. So you spent all that time in the hospital.
No, no, it was a hospital supervised program. Just like I had to go into the clinic every week. Okay, so you start off. I just want to make sure I have this right. Yeah. You and your roommate start, you're your dieting through Weight Watchers.
Yeah, when I was in college, okay. Now I've talked about Weight Watchers over and over and over on this show back in the early days, a lot. Weight in the reason I was talking about is one of the biggest diets out there. It's a white knuckle program. I call those white knuckling programs because they're getting you to lose weight by starving you and giving you points based on, you know, you don't have to eat anything all day. And you can save all of your points and have brownies at night.
or a cup of ice cream or whatever. So they're not teaching you how to eat correctly. And we know that Weight Watchers doesn't work. The company will tell you that the plus and minus on people making it through Weight Watchers is 2%. So 2% of anything can be zero. So very few people make it on Weight Watchers, but they don't care if you don't make it
That's fine. You come back, try again, because it wasn't their fault. You didn't have the tenacity to make it. It's your fault. But hey, we will be here with open arms. Christine, you want to come back in and try again? And you start all over again, right? Yeah. And I can't tell you how many times over those 30 years I reenrolled in my watchers. And the one thing that when I look back on wait watchers, the thing that missed me out the most was the
everything in moderation mentality. Even if I was eating Weight Watchers desserts, it was still triggering behaviors in me. It was triggering cravings for me to want more. And so if I would save my points to eat one Weight Watchers dessert in the package and I had three more in the freezer, it drove me to want to eat those and still try to stay within my points.
And it wasn't nutritious food. It wasn't nutritious. It wasn't filling me up. It wasn't nourishing me. It was just making me want more of those way, watch your treats. Yeah, it's, it's all, it's all just nuts. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know how people just go and do that over and over and over and over again.
You know, that's the part that gets me is that, you know, they, they just go and do it over and over again. It just makes no sense to me. Yeah, I can't even, I did that and I can't even explain it. Did you ever try any other diets? Because there's so many of them out there. Have you ever tried the wack? Like my mom would come home every summer. She and her friend, Grace Ann, they were both school teachers. You want to talk about faith. Okay. My mom, she doesn't belong to one prayer group.
She belongs to two prayer groups. And she also sits vigil. Do you know anyone who sits perpetual vigil? My mom does. What they do is there's a statue in the basement of the church. And they just sit and pray with the statue. And you can't leave until the next person shows up.
Oh, wow. And yeah, it's perpetual, you know, they did. And my mom is in two prayer groups because apparently one is when you have a son like me, you need one whole prayer group just for me. Yeah. Yeah. And by the way, when I went through cancer again, just recently, my mom told me she calls me and she goes, honey,
The women in one prayer group, I know them all, but I told them not to put it on, on the, on the internet. So we're praying for you in that group. And I said, Mom, that's, I really appreciate it. She goes, but we're not praying for you in the second group because I don't know all of those women that well. And I said, I think there are a bunch of Christians. I think if you told them to keep my name off of Facebook, I think Facebook, Facebook,
Yeah. And Facebook. Oh, wait, I should start Facebook. Hang on. Chris, I need Facebook.com. I could start a whole religion. Facebook. I think that's already out there, Benny. Oh, it is. It sounds familiar to me. If not, I'm buying Facebook tonight. You might have to pay a big premium for that URL. But I'm getting Facebook. And you know what? If I could start Facebook,
I'm gonna get myself one of those Southern preacher kind of twangs like they have in Texas. And just start saying things into a mic, you know? Yeah. I could probably do that, right? Yeah, right. Say things like, if you think God is coming, well, that dog just don't hunt. I could do that, right? Like a cowboy preacher. Yeah. I wear boots and everything. Yeah. I could do that. Yeah.
Facebook. All right, Chris, we got to find that. All right. Um, Facebook.com. So Christine, yes, you go through every create my mom will go through these crazy diets with grace and every summer. I mean, sometimes you're a cabbage soup type diets. Have you tried those? Oh, yes. Yes. Have you done the ones where you, um, you take things like Epsom salt and you take in like,
olive oil and all this kind of stuff. And they say you crap stuff out of your liver that's been stuck in your liver for years and that's the problem. Yeah, you know, I never really did any like detox diet. Yeah, don't do those. They're they're actually dangerous to the point where you can die. Yeah, people will try this stuff. That's why I didn't give exactly the diet there. But that, you know, yeah, those one called the sludge diet, I remember. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Sludge, where they would tell you to eat copious amounts of ice cream and peanut butter and the sludge that it would create would somehow make you crap out fat. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. I wish I was making that up. Yeah. There are, there's all kinds of crazy things out there for sure. Yeah. But you've tried a bunch of them, not to slice diet. Yeah, no, I tried medical weight loss centers.
Uh, had a South Beach diet book, didn't even wrote like, even when I was reading that, it didn't like, it didn't come across as like a low carb way of eating. And then again, that hospital supervised program at my local hospitals weight loss clinic was the craziest thing I did. It was expensive. I did lose some weight. I did lose a little bit of weight. I lost about 65 pounds on that program.
And then as soon as they reintroduced me and put me back on food for maintenance, they started reintroducing things like whole wheat pasta and whole wheat bread and potatoes and sweet potatoes. And my weight started creeping up and it just crushed me. Because here I just spent 10 months not cheating once. And all I did was drink protein shakes. Yeah. So Christine, what diet made you lose?
I don't want, I don't want you to perpetuate a diet. So I'll ask a different way. What was the most amount of weight you lost on any diet? Okay. So the hospital before my new lifestyle right now, but that hospital program was the one that I lost the most amount of weight on was 65 pounds. But then I regained it all back plus some. So what was your heaviest, if you don't mind me asking?
Yeah, my heaviest was I on the day, my daughter graduated from high school. I remember this day. So I know about the day, June 2015, stepped on scale and I weighed 230 pounds. Okay. And for a woman that's five, one, that's equivalent to a woman that's five, eight weighing probably three, 10. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was, I was definitely more, I was classified as morbidly obese.
And I think my body fat percentage was almost fully 50% of my weight. Easily. Easily at that height. As I would say, because I don't mince words with people, I've been dealing with morbidly obese people. You were as wide as you are tall. Yeah, probably. Yeah. I would always let people know, look, this is where we are. This is what we have to work on.
Yeah. Yeah. So what, what was the impetus? What did you find? Where did you come across? What happened? Yeah. So I had my turning point moment shortly after that time I stepped on the scale in September of 2015, my husband and I went on a 25th anniversary trip to Rocky Mountain National Park in Colorado and
Uh, you know, I, I love mountains. I was born in the mountains of Western Pennsylvania and I always love to go visit them. And I wanted to climb. My husband marked out a couple trails for us to head up to. And I remember going to the trail marker that he wanted to go up to Nymph Lake. And I saw the trail marker and it was a half a mile and I thought I could do, I could do a half a mile. But as I tried to climb up that trail to Nymph Lake, I, I, I could not go another step.
I was gasping for air and I had to sit down on the side of the trail on a stump. I told my husband to go out without me and he was like, are you sure? And I'm like, yes, go ahead, go see the lake. And I sat there, many and again, those bullies from my childhood started playing in my mind, like, oh, look at that obese woman. You know, maybe if she ate less and moved more, she wouldn't have to sit on the side of the trail. And I write about this in my book too, but
Um, in that moment, I remember just thinking like I had this tiny mustard seed of faith still, like I had been living as a casual Christian for 30 years as well. Dude, very much taking my faith for granted. But I had a mustard seed of faith and I just remember praying like, God, I just want to feel better. I just want to feel better. I want to be able to climb up a fairly moderate trail and not have to be totally exasperated and exhausted.
And in that moment, something changed, like something snapped in my resolve, like a resolve like just came over me and I made the determination that I was no longer going to live like this. I got to the point where I was sick and tired of being sick and tired and
Um, that was the catalyst for me going home from that trip. Um, my husband also told me that I snored an extra lot in that mountain altitude. There must be something about the altitude that really amplified my snoring. But so I want, I got, I got back to Michigan. And the first thing I did is I called a sleep study doctor. I got a sleep test that I'd been putting off for 10, at least 10 years.
And I didn't want to have a CPAP machine, but I did get the diagnosis of obstructive sleep apnea. I came home with that CPAP machine and in hindsight, that was my first medical intervention that put me on the path to healing because I started sleeping better and I had been sleeping terribly. But more importantly, I knew that I knew it was my responsibility to do something about my health. I was only 48 at that time. I didn't want to, I started having these thoughts like,
my daughter's going out to nursing school. I want to be a grandma someday and I get to live to see my grandparents or my grandchildren. So like all these spots are going on in my mind and I just knew I had to do something to take ownership of my health. It was it was my responsibility. So that that was the catalyst right there. So it's one thing to be on the side of a trail sitting on a rock having that moment. But what you're
your thoughts have to be, okay, I've had this moment several times before where I was going to change everything. And here we are. I'm sitting inside of a rock while my husband goes up to look at a lake. Right. So when you want to talk about faith, did you in that moment really have faith that something could change this time? And if yes, sorry, if no, whatever your answer is to me,
what changed this time versus all of the other time. All of the Weight Watchers, all of the Cabot Soup, all of the hospitals and the shakes and they just eat this once a day. What changed for Christine this time over every other time? I really do.
think that my faith played a huge part in it because I, there's a, I saw, if you're familiar with the book of Psalms, there's a song where King David writes in Psalm 40, he's, he's talked about he was in a pit and God lifted him up from the myry pit and places his feet on a salad rack and gave him a new song to sing. And I really feel like that is my, that is my turning point moment where
Uh, God did take the little tiny mustard seed of faith that I had and really grew it. And I just, I had a hope because I think something switched in my brain because I did not want to do that sleep study. I did not want to do that. I did not want to do that. I did not want to do that for 10 years. But the first thing I did on that Monday morning when I was home, I made that telephone call and I said, can I get the soonest appointment? Cause I didn't want to, I didn't want to back out.
And I don't know, I just felt really something, there was some bit of hope in my heart from that moment. I don't know if it was because I was on the side of a mountain. I love mountains, mountain majesty speak to me, but I really had a determination that I want to decline mountains in my future. You ever hear of a little storm called Katrina? Yes. So as the story goes,
This guy sees the water rising and he's on the roof of his house and a boat comes by and he says, getting the boat off, bringing the safety and the guy goes, no, I'm good. I'm good. I have faith in God. Go help somebody else on another roof. Water keeps coming up. Now the guy is on the tip top of his roof. Another boat comes by.
guy goes, sir, hop into the boat. He goes, no, no, God's going to take care of me. Go and help someone else. Now the guy is teetering on the top of his chimney in a helicopter comes along with a bullhorn. He goes, sir, grab the rope and we'll bring you to safety. And the guy goes, no, no, no, take your helicopter and go help other people. God's going to come and save me. Well, the guy dies. He drowns.
And he's at the Pearly Gates. And he's a little upset with God. And he says to St. Peter at the Gates, because St. Peter, as you know, is always at the gate. I don't know why it's Peter. Someone else should take his place for a while. But Peter's at the Pearly Gates. And the guy's a little distraught. And he says, Peter, I can't understand. I lived my life full of faith.
I went to church every Sunday. And the one time I needed God, he didn't come and save me. And Peter looked down at his clipboard and he goes, well, hell, we sent two boats in a helicopter. Yes. Right. Yeah. So you can have all the faith in the world. But unless you come home and dial the phone, right, and do a sleep study,
For 10 years, you had boats and helicopters coming. But you weren't willing to do anything until you were willing to do something. Does that make sense? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I know it was my responsibility to take care of my health. And God gives us, he equips us with the wherewithal to do something. And fortunately,
I see the timing and everything because also when I came home from that trip, you know, because I was morbidly obese at the time, pre diabetic. And I was done. I started having painful ovarian cyst. Yeah. And I, you know, it's all related to my metabolic health, which I didn't know at the time.
And because I had those painful cysts, I was ordered by my doctor to have a abdominal ultrasound. And then that's when they discovered my fatty liver disease. So like all these things were piling up, but I had already had that sleep study and I was already on the way to, to stepping out into this healing journey. So I just see like, I always see that's hand in his timing over everything. Like all of that stuff compiled.
And that like even made me more resilient and more determined, like, I'm going to reverse this fatty liver disease. I, that's the thing that really scared me straight. Okay. We're going to take a quick break here. And, uh, I want to continue down the, this road to figure out how you lost over a hundred pounds. Folks, we're going to find out exactly how Christine did that. But before we do that, I got to tell you guys about Villa Capelli, Olive oil. These people have been with me forever.
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10% discount, you can't go wrong, Villa Capelli, let him know we sent your promo code Vinnie, V-I-N-N-I-E, went P-Y. We're talking to the woman who wrote the book, Sugar Freed. It'll be out soon. We'll let you guys know where to go to get it. It's going to be on Amazon. You're going to want to get this book. I'm loving what we're talking about here because we never really get into the faith
based part of people. And look, that could be mostly because of me, because I lost faith a long time ago. I never poo-poo the idea of faith because, as my wife always says, says, I'm the most spiritual, non-spiritual person she's ever met. I believe in helping men, all men of mankind, men, women, everything. I said men, I don't know why I said men. But I believe that we're all in this together. And if I can help one person,
that, you know, every day, just do one thing to help one other person. I'm doing my job. And if we all do that, we would all be in a better place. Um, by Christine doing what she's doing and putting a book out there, she can help many people all the time. Christine, you make this decree on the side of a mountain. Your husband comes down from looking at the lake. He's all energized. He's feeling pretty good about that lake.
Obviously, did you drive or fly out there? How did you get out there? We flew out there. Yes. OK. Do you talk to your husband about this transformation, this moment you had? Or do you just kind of keep it to yourself? How does it work? Because he's probably tired of here. 25 years of he's probably sick and tired, right? Yeah. Yeah. Actually, what's really interesting, Vinny, is even when I talk to women about women who are just like me who've been in these circumstances,
like we don't even tell our husband the depths of our despair about our health issues. So, you know, I kept it to, I definitely kept that to myself. Although I did tell him that I was going to schedule sleep study because I knew that that like my snoring from upstart to sleep apnea was disturbing both of our sleep. Yeah. Either one of us were getting good sleep. So that was to his benefit too. I really, I really was, I was wanting to do that for him as well. So, but yeah, I really didn't talk about like that, like,
uh, what, what I experienced inside of that mountain and how it was going to move me forward in, in my faith journey too. So, okay. So that's fair enough. Um, so you come home, you do the sleep study, they figure out you have sleep apnea. You kind of knew that you figure out you have fatty liver disease. You find out all of this wonderful stuff. What did you do to lose weight? How did you correct all of that?
Yeah, well, I was very curious about the fatty liver disease because my gynecologist kind of poo pooed it because she was more concerned about the cysts that are on my ovaries. And but like I said, that like was kind of my wake up call like this is scary. And so I did my own
research on Dr. Google. And I did not bookmark it. I wish I would have, but I learned something in my research about fatty liver disease about that sugar is a major hormone disruptor. And my insulin hormone must be out of whack. My liver was storing fat because of my metabolic dysfunction, all of these things. And so it really just sat on me like, Oh my goodness, I have to quit sugar.
If I want to reverse the fatty liver disease, which I learned through my research that was reversible, I need to crush sugar. So that's what I finally made a determination to. For some reason, wait, hang on, hang on. Christine, for some reason, we can't hear Christine.
What happened? What just happened to Christine? Christine speak. Yeah, you're not coming through at all. And I'm not sure why. Did something get moved? No. Folks, hang with me for a second here. I'm going to see if I can fix this.
Some setting just went off. Oh, this is all, all right, Christine, hang on. I'm gonna move everything back to where it was. Okay. Okay, there you are. You're back now. Okay. And I'm actually hearing music in the background. Everything just went wacky here. What? You got really muffled. Yeah, like, you just went away completely and... Okay. You're back now and everything is good. Okay. Okay, good.
And everything. I don't know what happened to be honest with you. Yeah. So we're not going to even try to sit here and figure it out. OK. OK. Anyway, let's go back to where you were. OK.
So I was very like intent on learning why my liver was full of fat. I used Dr. Google to do some research. I learned that sugar is a major hormone disruptor. I discovered that my hormones must be really out of whack. I knew I had metabolic dysfunction. And so I was very intent on reversing my fatty liver disease. And that's what led me to taking my first step to quit sugar.
Was it only sugar at first? Was it just? All right. So you read that it was sugar. So you have one clue, right? One clue. So what did you stop? Take us back to that day. Did you go? Well, that's soft drinks. What were you thinking?
Yeah, well, it took me a couple of actually a couple months, Vinny, if I'm honest, to like really think about this, because I knew I had to clean up my way of eating completely. I was eating a typical standard American diet. But the first thing I decided to quit as far as sugar post was I quit coffee cold turkey because I was drinking a whole a little bit of coffee with a whole lot of flavored sugar creamer.
And then a couple days later, I decided that I worked in a corporate office at the time with a bunch of women. There was candy all over the office. I swore off candy. Couple days later, I decided I would no longer participate in the like
Every other week we'd have a birthday celebration. I swore off cake. So it really was like the sweet stuff. And then I started reading food label ingredients and anything that had any kind of sugar in it. I was not eating that. But I did that for about 10 months. And because I was still eating typically a standard American diet of like, I was still eating bread. I was still eating potatoes. I was still eating pasta.
And not realizing that those were like my last sugar holdouts that I needed to ditch. So I did the, for 10 months, I did the no sweets, no desserts, no candies, nothing like that. And I only lost about 18 pounds. And then I was so frustrated, had a conversation with a friend who was really into hormonal health. And she said, Hey, have you ever heard of, I was lamenting to her, like how slow my weight loss was?
And she said, have you ever heard of Dr. Jason Fung? And he writes a book about hormones and obesity. You should check him out. So later that night, I went home and I googled hormones fasting, landed on a five-part video series that Dr. Fung put out called What is Fasting? It was on the Diet Dr. website, watched that video series, and it completely changed my life. It completely changed my life.
The thing that really gets me in my memory and I do share about this, my book too is like Dr. fun just looking in the in the camera and his video series and just saying this is not your fault. And I was like, what do you mean this is not my fault. Like I've been obese for 30 years now, how could this not be my fault.
And then he went on to explain all the bad dietary advice I'd been given for so many years and how my insulin resistance needed to be healed. And the best way to do that was with fasting and a low carb lifestyle. And that was the last day I ate bread potato and pasta and adopted a ketogenic way of eating with intermittent fasting. And my weight loss just took off. It just soared after that point. So within two week period,
I was being fueled by ketones, my brain fog was gone, had so much more energy and I knew that that was the lifestyle that I was gonna need to stick to if I wanted to beat this obesity and all the other diseases that I was experiencing. What was your total and what is your total weight loss?
When I first got to my healthy weight, I got to like when I first said I made my goal, I got to 126. So that was a little bit over 100 pounds. I got down to like about 119, like my high school weight. And then menopause hit and I've been battling five to 10 pounds up and down in this like past couple of years. But yeah, menopause is
I wanted to, my goal was to get to 115 pounds to be half of my body weight, which was like, it's kind of a silly goal, but, um, so I'm, I'm still trying to get there, but yeah, by the way, you, you will get there. My mom, um, was forced into menopause because she had to have a complete hysterectomy, which was in her 40s. And my mom, not much taller than you, maybe five, three, five, she was probably five for her tallest.
No, she's probably five, two because you lose height when you're in your age. And she's back to her high school weight of one 18. You know, and my mom was in the two 30 to 40 category, most of her life as a school teacher. Okay. Wow. Yeah. So when people ask me, you know, why, if you go back and listen to the show with my brother and his wife from this past Monday,
from today, the show came up today. You would, you want to hear a guy who's in the throes of not willing to give up his crappy lifestyle. And he's going to die young, you know, and you'll see that I'm pretty nonchalant about it because there's nothing I love. My brother has nothing else I can do. And he talks openly about it in the show, you know, and you'll hear a lot of the denial that people go through, this sort of thing.
But what you've done is nothing short of miraculous, you know, just going in googling things. Jason, we were one of the first people to have him on the show. He came on this year early on, probably in 2013 or 2012, long before he thought about writing a book. And that started falling in. Yeah, Jason and I have known each other for a long time. We used to get people like Kate Shanahan on back in
2011, 2012, when no one else is talking about seed oils, her and Nina Taichos. Actually, a lot of what those people are talking about, they took from Nina Taichos' book and he just expanded it. So I don't know if you've ever read Nina Taichos' book, but the first person to really ever talk about seed oils was Nina. Nobody else is talking about it. Wow.
I'm loving that people like you found it. It helps when you, when you have something to show. Hey, look, I was able to do this as a middle-aged woman. Yeah. And, and then you write a book and more people find your book and it continues on, right? It all just continues on. That's all we're trying to do here. It starts some kind of groundswell, right? So I can't thank you enough for coming on and telling you the story. Did you find
that were in the office, right? You're in the office. You're doing this stuff. You're not eating the cakes anymore. That's coming to the birthday parties. The candy around the office would have you. Do you find that the other women are now treating you differently, asking you about it? What's going on? Because women, look, if one woman steps out of line just a little bit, the other ones can get pretty brutal, pretty fast. Yes. Women are rough. Yeah.
Yes, that's typically true. Fortunately, I was very blessed to work in an office of women that I worked there a little over 20 years before I left to write and speak in coachable time. We were pretty close. And yeah, some of them were very curious, asked me questions. And by the time I left there, Vinnie, when I finally stepped out the door and said, I'm going to go do this writing and speaking thing,
They were no longer bringing in all that junk into the office. And my boss, my CEO who owned the company, she's Polish. And so I don't know if you have you ever heard of like the Pucci, Pucci donuts that they eat on Fat Tuesday? No. No. Okay. Well, it's like a Detroit. It's a, I think it's a Midwest tradition. She would bring in these fresh homemade Pucci's, which were donuts, deep fried donuts with, with things in the filling and
She used to bring those in every year as a treat for everybody on a good Friday or no. Fat Tuesday. Fat Tuesday. Yeah. Fat Tuesday. And by the time I left there, she was no longer doing that. So I feel like I had a little tiny bit of influence over the culture there. So that was good. Good. Well, you know, the problem is down in Louisiana, as soon as New Year's comes, they're going to start bringing king cake out.
You know, they start in early January and every day someone brings a king cake to work and they keep that going all the way through Fat Tuesday. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. The party doesn't it never stops down there. It's just crazy what happens. Yeah. Folks, the book is called Sugar Free. Stop losing the weight. Stop losing the weight loss battle. Start gaining the victory. You can go check that out. We're going to have it in Vinny's, the Vinny Turner's book club.
on Amazon as soon as possible. If there's a link before the show comes out, we'll make sure that you guys get the link. Christine, stay with me even after the music plays at the end of the show because we have to wait for it to do all this stuff. So don't go anywhere. And I'd like to say goodbye to you off the air anyway.
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In the meantime, you need to go get this book, sugar-free F-R-E-E-D. Go get it. By Christine Timp, I'm going to spell Timp for you. T-R-I-M-P-E. So for people that don't, if you want to remember, call it Timp-E, even though that's not her name. T-R-I-M-P-E, Timp, go check the book out.
Uh, I have some music, some outgoing music for you. That's a little different than simply for the devil. Okay. So on behalf of Christine Trump, my name is Vinny Torres. Put life into living and do it with George Michaels. Do you notice on Christine? You don't know it?
It's going to kick in right here. You ready? Yeah, you're going to do it in a second.
But I gotta think twice before I could give my heart away And I know if all the games you play Because I'll pay them too All I need is some time off I'm back in my sun Time to build my part up on the floor All I'm at love comes down with I'm dead in my sun What a taste to stone and baby, but I've shown you
Because I gotta have faith. I gotta have faith. Thank you for listening to Fitness Confidential. Get more information at VinnieTorterHitch.com. Remember to rate and review us on iTunes and follow Vinnie on Instagram and Twitter.
