Episode 723: The 7-Figure Series: Inside the Mind of 7-Figure Mindset & Success Coach Mavic Bright on Feminine Power and Leading from Your Full Self to Own the Stage and Inspire Thousands

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What's up, everyone? James Wedmore here. And I'm Jennifer Finley. And this is another episode of the Mind Your Business podcast. And Jenny just wrapped up an interview with Mavic Bright, one of the members of our seven figure mastermind club, How to Go. Oh, it was one of my favorite podcast episodes. Unfortunately, I could not attend this one. We had a scheduling conflict. It's been a busy week. I've been on puppy duty.

It's definitely keeping us busy and I couldn't make that one. So it was just Jenny's flying solo. Mavic, she's incredible. She's been in our mastermind for a couple of years. She is a powerhouse. She's spoken in one of our BBD lives before. She was like the most inspiring speaker there. And I'm just so happy. She said yes to this podcast interview. So how to go get me up to speed with it, Jenny. What'd you guys talk about? What should everyone listening here be excited to hear in this interview?

Well, Mavic is a manifestation and leadership performance coach. And her audience is largely French. So you have to speak French if you're going to get coaching directly from Mavic. And she and I have become friends over the mastermind. I'm just always so captivated by her. She carries herself with such grace and elegance, but also just true feminine power.

And so our conversation started about how to step into your own personal power and that includes feminine leadership and she and I have had several cool conversations off camera where we're talking about challenges or perceptions and of how to be a leader and be.

a woman that where people expect you to be one way or you're trying to find your authenticity of how to have it step into your power, but also own your own femininity and be authentic to yourself and not just lean way into the masculine, if that makes sense. So we had a really nice dialogue on that and then

I don't know if many people know this, but she hosts her own event at the same time as BBD Live. And it has over two thousand times. Yes, it's in the same week. And it has over two thousand people in attendance. I actually really, really wanted to go. But then, of course, the calendar does it a lot because I gotta be on stage. It's fine. If you want to go, it's fine.

Well our dream is that one day our events will not clash dates so we'll be able to be both together but she does this incredible production at her event where she has a stylist and a choreographer and dancers and she learns all of these dance numbers to keep people

entertained on stage and I saw a video of her rehearsing and I said, can we do an episode where you come on and we talk about all of the things that you do to prepare and get ready to be holding a room like that? Because you know, people ask us all the time after BBD Live.

What's your ritual for before? What's your ritual for after? So she and I just talked about all of that. And she shared all of her wisdom. I took so much away from the interview and she's just one of my favorite people to speak with as well. Yeah, she's such a rock star. Well, let's not try to convince you ourselves that she's amazing. You can see it for yourself or rather hear it for yourself in this interview with Mavic Bright.

Okay. Welcome back to the Mind Your Business Podcast. Today, I have a very special guest that I am so excited to interview my personal mastermind girl, Crush Mavic Bright, who is on the podcast with us today. Say hello to everyone, Mavic. Hello. I'm super excited to be here. I'm so happy.

I am geeking out because you and I have the coolest conversations privately. And for so long, I've wanted to record an episode where we talk about these things. And the inspiration for this actually came because we have an event that's going on at the same time as your big event. And when we were swapping

information about what are you going to wear? What's going to happen? I happened to stumble across your Instagram and saw a video of you training to do the dance that you do on stage at your live event. And I went to James and I was like, we have to interview Mavic on how she prepares for these epic events that she throws, because you like deliver on another level.

I almost said the word perform because there's an element of not just being a public speaker, there's a performance element to it. And what I love about you is you carry yourself with so much elegance and grace and you always appear to me to be.

cool under fire. And then privately, you'll tell me like, Oh, I was worried about this thing. I was thinking about this thing. I was stressing out about that thing. And I thought that would be such a cool thing for our listeners to listen to about, you know, how you approach and hold yourself going into these spaces where you are the front woman for these productions, where you've got how many people are coming to this event. Isn't it? It's like, do that.

2000. Yeah, it's bigger than business by design life. You have a whole dance that you do on stage with like choreographed dancers. It's giving female Tony Robbins. It's giving like a woman's apartment, Beyonce concert. Like I saw the video and I was like, my hat is off. I bow down to Mavic Queen of the stage.

Let's start with introducing you what you do, who you serve, and anyone who hasn't met you yet, what is your brand? Okay, I am a success and mindset coach. I'm passionate about everything, brain, performance, success, but women's success. Because what is fascinating for me is that success can mean so many things for every woman that

What I want to bring to the word is, each version of success is valid. You can choose your success and my job is helping you making peace with that and go for it. Yes. So, I serve women and I serve bold women. I serve all those women who have always been said that they are too much. I serve too much women.

Wow. That's so serendipitous that you just said that. Just last night, I saw a video that said that I had never heard this perspective before, but it was that in masculine and feminine energy, a wound in the masculine is I'm not enough. And then a wound in the feminine is I'm too much.

But there's like for the feminine energy, not just, you know, women, but just like that, just the feminine energy and in general in the world is like this fear that if I reveal all of who I am, if I express all of myself and my emotions, I'm going to be too much. I just got chills when I said that. I'm going to cry and you give me goosebumps because I saw the show.

telling women when I talk about women power or women having power, the first thing they say is that why do you want us to be stronger than men? Why do you want us to eliminate men? Why do you always talk about power as if power were

fighting was fighting as if power was something wrong for a woman and that's just not understanding the meaning of power. When you pursue the meaning of this simple word, you see, femininity is totally okay with power.

Yes, you know what? And I'm thinking about to the moment that I met you in the mastermind. And I think if I recall correctly, the first retreat that I went on with you, I had remarked privately to someone. Wow, I just I think it's rare for me to see a woman that when I

Let me see if I can articulate this because it's hard to put into words because it's not just how you dress or how you look aesthetically. It's like how you hold yourself in a room. I looked at you and I went. She is so elegant and she's so polished and yet she's so bright. Like you're not afraid to wear bright colors or like statement pieces. And I just privately to James was like,

James, I really want to learn how to dress more like Mavic. And someone said, you do realize she lost her luggage and that she's just been winging it without fits this entire time. And I was like, get out of town. How are you the best dress at this entire retreat? And you're not even you don't even have your luggage with you.

Because what stands out to me about that is that from the moment I met you, there was this sense of authentic feminine power that wasn't attention grabbing, that wasn't trying to be the loudest in the room. It was more of this confident presence. And it really inspired me even before we spoke. And then of course I got to know you and went to James and was like, now I'm obsessed with Mavic.

I'm obsessed with you, so. Which is the highest compliment.

But yeah, let's talk about that. Let's talk about in the context of women stepping into their own power to be leaders inside of a space or to be leaders on the internet, to have their own voice often when having your own personal brand can be met with a lot of pushback or criticism. What advice do you have for women who are getting started that maybe have

Bucked up against that level of fear of I'm not really sure if I want to put my whole self out there. Do I need to guard myself and not be in my full power?

I have been coaching women for a while now and I came up with my own definition of what is power. Power is the coexistence of all the bigness, if you will, in us and all the vulnerabilities. And when you own this definition, you understand that.

the more vulnerable you are, the more powerful you are. And let me explain you why. Because everything big and bright about us makes us emerge. That means you stick out of the group when you succeed. So this is the big part of us. But

All our vulnerabilities give us the power of connection. What makes you able to connect with someone to relate to someone is the sensitive part. I don't want a leader who doesn't feel anything.

I want someone I can relate to and all big leaders have that. When Barack Obama says yes, we can. He says I need the group to succeed. That is the meaning. So when you are afraid to put yourself out there,

Wanting to have your vulnerability, what you have to do is go back to this sensitive part and ask yourself what is each vulnerability telling me about me? What are the fear the little me is experiencing right now?

And if you own that, you are able to come on this little you, but you are able to be authentic. And that makes you a big leader. That makes you someone, people want to trust, to hear, to listen to. Wow. I took so much from that. What calls to mind is I've spoken to James about this many times that when I first started managing or leading, I had this

perception of women in leadership, that you have two lanes, you can be the cheerleader or you can be the bitch. And if you want to get things done, you have to be the bitch. And I had to really look for mentors, examples,

books, Brene Brown and Kim Scott. I love their books about bringing your whole self to work. But exactly what you said, that there is a version of feminine power that allows for you revealing your vulnerability, which isn't revealing weakness. It's not emotional or emotional. I'm weak, not weakness. Yeah.

And what is really interesting in what you said is we are lacking role models who lead in a feminine way. Yes. When I entered this pace, everybody was

waiting for me to be a masculine leader. Yeah, I'm not. I am a woman and I'm able to lead my team, my job, my brand, my community. And I don't need to be a mate doing. I don't need to

express myself in a masculine way. What does that mean? That means that sometimes when I work with my husband, because we work together, sometimes I say, hold on. This is what I feel. And this is my deepest intuition. So this is what we will do. I have no rational clue about what I say. But this is how I feel. And I think that intuition is

powerful family so sometimes i rely on numbers and everything but sometimes the most important part is how i feel and i'm sure this is the way we should go and i'm not ashamed and i'm okay with telling everybody this is the way i live and we are succeeding so

Yes. So the roof is in the results. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So let's talk about your journey of embodying this, the level of competence that you have now when you get in front of a stage of 2000 people.

Because I know there's been a journey there of like speaking in front of smaller groups and then growing and growing the brand. And then now you can get up and not only speak in front of 2000 people, but hold the entire event, like though you're running the entire thing. And we have so many students that come to me and say, I want to learn how to hold the container of a bigger room and that there's a different

version of you sometimes that's required for if you're facilitating to a room of 20 versus if you're facilitating to a room of 2000. So tell me about your journey of how you learn to do that. And what do you think is really essential to be powerful in that skill?

The first thing is that I want to be totally transparent. I'm not 100% confident at all. I'm not confident 24-7 and that's good because that means

I respect people who are giving me time in their brain. The most precious asset you have is space and time in your bread. And if you are giving me that, no, I won't be fully confident because I respect you. And I want to give you the best. So when you are not confident, it's okay. Beyonce is not confident.

24-7, that's normal because the highest take, the higher the move, the bigger the fear and that's the same. Being big and being vulnerable, I'm big I own what I have to tell you and yes sometimes I'm afraid and that's okay. So what I think the

change for me was when I was facilitating in a room of 20, I wanted people to interact with me and I wanted to be the one facilitating everything. I wanted the knowledge to go from me through the people and at some point I said to myself,

What I have to say matters. And if I am able to share it with bigger audiences, my message will spread way faster. Yes. So I shifted the way I think. And now I am not thinking about me as a facilitator. I'm thinking about me as an experienced creator. So

I am putting you in a big container. And when I design the experience, I know exactly the emotions I want you to go through. That means you will be in a big container with big, big emotions. Because you will be sharing emotion with people. That means everything is not on me anymore. That means I am a real leader. I rely on the group.

to go where I want to be. And that means there is a lot of surrender in leading in front of a big audience. That means you have to be okay with you wanting to give something, wanting people to experience something,

with people thinking something else and experiencing something else. And you experiencing something else doesn't mean it's wrong. It's just another way for me to share what I want to share with you.

Yes, I love that shift from I'm creating an experience for you. And I think that that's a really good way to think about it, whether you're leading your first retreat or your first webinar, or you're leading a recurring event that you do every year with tons of people, to look at if I'm looking at this through the lens of one of my students that's coming through this, what is the experience that they're going to go on and the arc

they're like story arc of like what are they going to feel and transform and realize by over the course of whatever that time period is and that could be an hour could be two days or it could be a whole week. But what are they going to feel at each key point? I feel like that's a really

great feminine power distinction to of bringing in what are the key emotions that I want people to be experiencing throughout this event, not just what's the result that they're going to walk away with, you know, what actions are they going to take when they walk through the door? But what do I want them to be feeling?

I'm really obsessed with emotion because your emotions will influence your actions. The way you feel will you don't act the same when you are proud and when you are ashamed. You don't act the same. You are excited and when you are I don't know like sad.

So I am really, really obsessed. So when I work with my artistic director, when I work with my integrator, everything is about emotions. I want them to feel this. This is the music we need for this. This is the light we need for this. This is the smell we need for this. And I want to add something to go back to where we started. We talked about authenticity. As you know, you want to create an experience

for people, you have to be your most authentic self while promoting the event because you want to attract the right person. You don't want someone outside your box in your event because this person will ruin everything. So really often we are like, oh, I only sell out 50% Alleluia, you sell 50% to the right person. What would you ask 50% right?

And 50% wrong, you need the right person and the border, the more you, the more vulnerable you are, the better, the best people you attract. You attract your people when you are fully you, just you. What's something that you feel like has supported you over the years in rooting down in that level of confidence when you talk about what you do and what you can make available for people when they work with you?

Eight years ago, my first baby boy died from sudden infant death and at this time, I had two choices. I, three, I could have disappeared from the social space and just had to feel my pain. I could have said to people,

I'm okay and I'm not. And this is a choice I made. I could be just me with all the boldness and all the vulnerabilities. So that means when you lose a baby, people are

watching you. And I discovered at this time that really often there is a politically correct way to experience pain. When a woman loses a kid, everybody is waiting for her to have a depression to stop working and everything. That's not the choice I made at this time. I continued working. I continued being happy and loving my three daughters.

And I was deeply sad because nothing prepares you for that. And at this time, what I realized is I am not the woman for everyone. Some women were like, thank you.

Thank you for sharing this because it helps us going through our own pain and other women we're like.

That's not normal. You are not a real human. And that's really bad for us who wants to hide our pain because you are doing as if it was, it was nothing. That wasn't what I was doing. I was just doing me. Yeah. And this thing just changed everything for me. My idea is the bolder you are, the more you, the you were, you are.

the best magnet you are. I want people to love me with me being strong and vulnerable. I don't want people to choose either strength or vulnerability. I'm everything and you take everything you want if you want to take me. I wish I could hug you. I'm crying. I didn't know that.

story. And I'm so moved by that. And one of the things that if you're listening to this, I'm now I'm going to go to our video editor and say you have to cut this as a video so that you can watch Mavic's face and body language while she shared that. I'm always so touched by how you carry yourself. But there's this light

behind your eyes when you can hear that an experience like that, the grief is insurmountable and difficult to even explain or put into words to anyone who hasn't walked through something like that similar. And it's a very unnatural thing for a parent to lose a child. And anyone that I know that's been through

that type of experience. It's something that it's ineffable. You can't contain it with your language. And as you were speaking about that, I could see and feel and hear exactly what you were talking about, that there's these two containers. And one is this tremendous power and strength. And the other is this extraordinary vulnerability.

and to be able to communicate both in the same moment, in the same time, and to be that for yourself, to say, yes, I am walking through this extraordinary amount of grief. And yes, I am this strong, empowered woman that can continue on and will keep moving forward. Those two things can both be true in the same moment in time. And I completely

completely relate to what you were saying about in different circumstances, there's an appropriate acceptable way that people expect you to move through the world as a woman of like, this is what a quote, good woman is going to behave like in this circumstance. And

What I really appreciate about you is that I've never had an experience of you expressing your own power and fortitude as power over anything. I guess, to me, it's a distinction between masculine power approach and feminine power approach. It's not coming at you with or over you with

overbearing power it's you rooting down so that you can rise up into this version of yourself and also this the vision that I took from that is like feminine power is a magnetic power which is I'm gonna stand still in this and the right people will still be attracted to me without me going and

proving to them that this is how I'm acting or doing or participating in. And yeah, I'm so touched by one. Thank you so much for sharing that because I know that even just sharing an emotional experience like that, that's a tremendous gift to have you share that in this medium. And I hope that people listening can hear whatever circumstance it is

in our lives, it's just impossible to walk through life without acquiring scars and traumas and wounds. That can make you more you, more powerful, more relatable. And like you said, it's that level of vulnerability that causes connection. And even if you do lose a portion of your audience, because a portion of them go, that's not for me. It's better to keep the ones that are really there for authentically being you.

Can I ask? No, my perception of you may not be what's actually going on in the inside, because I know you can be a duck where everything looks smooth on the outside, but the little feet are paddling under the water. How do you deal with mentally accepting that there are some people that are just passing blame, criticism, don't want to be a part of whatever it is that is you? I love this question.

So there are two levels in my head. So I am okay with some people not liking my message or but it's kind of more difficult for me when I feel

It is a personal attack, for example. What you said is really important for me. I don't want to have power over anyone. It's super important for me when I interact with people, for people to feel like they have the choice, they have the right to agree to disagree.

So whenever someone feels like, because I talk loud, for example, or because I wear so many bracelets, or just because I am charismatic, for example, when people feel like it's power over them, or I'm trying to get power over them, this is really, really sad for me, and I can feel really sad for that.

But what I finally understood is that you don't need to love me for me to help you. You don't need to love me for me to be the best coach for you. That's not my job to be loved by you. We don't need to love our coaches.

We need our coaches to bring us where we want to go. So just tell me what you want to do or where you want to be. I don't need you to love me. You'll thank me after. When I get you there, you'll thank me. For the moment, I want you to go there and let's go and that's okay.

Really often I am talking with my kids. They have activities, caratsy, poetry, soccer and everything. And sometimes they come back home saying, oh, the coach is really hard. Oh, the coach is this way. And I'm like, I'm no mom, I'm here to love you. This is my job, loving you, hugging you, listening to you. This is my job. This is not their job.

If you need a hug, come to me. Let them do their job. Their job is bringing you where you want to go. Do you want to go? Yes, only. If you don't want to go, stay home. But if you want to go, go there. And I love you after. It's okay.

I love that distinction for female coaches because I feel like a lot of us shift into that dynamic of how much do I need to just coddle love and support my clients and be there for them. And then what role are you as like the coach? And that's such a great distinction is as the coach, you're not their mother.

You're their coach and sometimes I'm not your best friend. No, I'm not your best friend. I'm not there to cuddle to understand. No, my job is pushing you. I want you to get out of yourself and go. This is all I do. I may not be the coach for you, but this is the kind of of coach I am.

I love that. Okay. So what are some things that you do to support yourself when you're preparing for an event, like the one that you have coming up, which is in the first week of December, same as BBD Live. And then I also want to hear about what do you do on the back end when you're done and like, how do you rest and restore? Okay. So get ready. It's going to be long. Okay.

So I take very seriously my preparation. And when I'm on stage, it's a real performance. So I have a performance coach 12 weeks before she starts telling me, I want you to sleep that many hours. I want you to drink this amount of water. I want you to do those exercises. And she is super, super precise. She's laser focused.

So she wants me to work on a little tiny muscles. And I want to emphasize this and explain to you why I do that.

I couldn't do it by myself, but I'm not an expert. And that would take so much space in my brain. I need my brain to focus on what I do the best performance. So I let someone else take care of that. And I just shock my hours of sleep and do whatever she asked me to do.

I love that. The second thing is that I don't know the exact English word but I would say I have a like a treatment with my naturopathic. Yes. And so she gives me really specific things.

So I have things because of my perimenopause, but 12 weeks before, I say, this is the date. This is how long the show will be. This is the choreography I will be doing. What should I do? And she says, OK, take electrolyte. Take this. Do that. And this time in the night, you will be waking up sweating. Do this. Do that. I don't do.

think about it twice. I do exactly what she asked me to do and I become a real baby for my coaches. Once I have the smallest problem, I text you to say, Oh, you said I would be sweating at 3am. I am sweating at 4am. Is that normal? What do you want me to do?

That's not my job to take care about that. She will say, okay, it's normal, do this or don't do that. And I have an artistic director. I do the exact same thing. 12 weeks before, we start with the easiest choreography because he wants my body to get used to the complexity he wants to move me towards.

And for me, the most important is before I become even more protective to my energy.

I don't watch the socials anymore. I don't watch some things in the TV or I don't read some things. I don't have some conversations. I don't interact with some people because I'm over protecting. I want this space in my head fully, fully

Because, for example, when I'm rehearsing for the text, the performance of our long line, I have to know three hours and a half by heart plus 10 choreographies. So, that's crazy. I don't know why you might sell me your face. I don't want to.

I have to have this empty space because if in one day, for example, I rehearse my text for two hours, I will need four hours to just be there and listen to the text.

walking in my head, just doing it stuff. I will need this full empty space to trust my brain to put the informations in the right place. So I need emptiness, a lot of emptiness around me before.

Wow, I love that you're sharing that because I think some people go to an event like the ones that you host and they see you on stage and they probably say something like, you're such a natural, which there is an element to that. Like you have a natural presence to you, but being a natural doesn't mean that you don't prepare tremendously.

No, I prepared. I love that you use the word tremendously because I'm natural. People are waiting more for me. I are expecting more for me. So I prepare more. Because what my first autistic director used to say was so, so smart. He used to say, I want you to feel zero fever when on stage. That means

Everything you'll be doing should be so neutral that you can play with people, play with the word. Yes, yourself. Start again and go back and forth. But you cannot do that if you don't re-arse and prepare tremendous success. People will be moving, sneezing, barfing, and all that kind of stuff, and texting, and looking at you, and sleeping.

You have to have focus and in order to have this focus to be flexible, you have to be prepared. Everything should come through your mouth without you thinking about it.

Yes, that's so important. Do you have anything that you say to yourself on stage when you look out and you see someone texting? Because I've talked to people about this. I was speaking to someone where they said when they looked out on stage and they saw that someone wasn't paying attention in their world. That's an interpretation. They were texting.

They said, I just went, I'm doing a bad job. That's what they said in their head. And I said to them, oh, that's so interesting. Anytime I see that, I just say to myself, they must have a really important family emergency, like an infant at home that they need to check on with grandma to make sure that everything's fine. I just in my head go, oh, they're just taking care of themselves. But it can be really distracting.

as the facilitator. Yes. What do you say to yourself? I say to myself, she is having such a big experience that she is sharing it with all the love when she has. I say to myself, she is enjoying herself. She is scheduling the time she will be spending with me in the next weeks.

Yeah, I like who I am. I always change her life. She's acting on what I just said. This is what she is doing. No, no, she's a great time with me. The truth is you will never know unless you go to that person and they voluntarily tell you the truth. Because I mean, you'll never know why was that person taking their phone out in that moment, leaving the room in the moment suddenly decides they need to

go to the restroom. I was leading a meditation once where James, he's very auditory. And after we finished it, he said, I got so frustrated because I was right in the middle of my visualization. And then four people just started coughing and it popped me out. I went back in and I felt frustrated. And I was like, you know, that's interesting because

energetically coughing is people releasing uncomfortable emotion. So what's happening is they're starting to cough because they're expelling. It's like an energetic sneeze kind of like where they're just expelling something that needed to

burp out of their body. And actually, when you go see like live theater productions, a lot of times that there's like an emotional monologue where there's a lot of silence and stillness. All of a sudden, you will hear this cacophony of coughs popping up in the audience because people start to get uncomfortable with like being with. So I just always go to like, that means it's working. That means something's bubbling inside and they couldn't contain it. So I think

My takeaway for that is that as the facilitator, it's really important for us that when you're on stage, you don't take yourself out in your own mind because you're making assumptions about what may or may not be happening with your guests. And if you can say something empowering to yourself that gives you more energy that makes you more committed to sharing your message, like,

They took their phone out because they just have to share what's coming up for them. They left the room because they can't wait another second to take action. That's such a better mind frame to be in, to continue being of service for everyone else in the room, you know? And there's two other things.

My first daughter, she has ADHD, and she's not able to focus on you without doodling, drawing. Yes, something. So that means I'm super comfortable with people doing their stuff while I'm talking. But the second thing, do you remember I said what I want is creating an experience. When I create an experience, everything I tell you is for me, because what is important is what you feel.

When I see you doing something else, I'm always like, my energy is doing her job. My energy is going towards you, helping you, raising you. You don't need to pay attention to what I'm talking about. You are in a room full with this magnetic energy. It's okay. My job is done. I don't need you to look at me. I don't even need you to listen to me. You are here, so my energy is working.

Mm. You're here. So my energy is working. I love that. What do you do when you come off stage? And that can include like from the moment you step off to like the month that you're wrapped the event. But how do you rest and restore recharge? I go super, super quiet. I just

become a baby again. I don't take any decision. I don't do anything either before or after. So my husband takes care of everything. I don't know where he's a car. I don't know what to do. I'm just there.

watching blankly at you and waiting for you to bring me home. And I'm not interacting with anybody because I already give, I give everything I have. I don't play my cheer with 80% of my energy. I give you all the love I have. I give you everything. That means when I'm offstage, I don't have anything to give anymore. I cannot do photos or check chat or

Reading what's up. No, no, I can't. I just go who and when I'm off stage

I just want to be a normal woman. I am just the mom of so many people. I am with them because there is this loving energy of them not needing me to perform or do a cartwheel to be me. They see me just the way I am and they are okay with me being vulnerable. So after I'm super, usually it takes

two to three days, my team know that I cannot handle anything and I clearly communicate it.

And I take really good care of my health so I drink electrolyte. I am vegan and I am even more cautious with what I eat and I sleep. This is mandatory. Everybody knows that after a performance, I will sleep at least 10 hours to recover.

But to allow my brain to go back to normal. Because that's a lot of cortisol, that's a lot of adrenaline, a lot of endorphin. And even if those are good chemicals, that's a lot for a single... Yes, that's a lot. Yes, that's so good.

It's nice, but that's a lot for just one person. So I just need everything to go back to normal. And I take time to read feedback and to receive feedback, feedback. I say to my team and to everybody, I will tell you when I'm emotionally able to handle feedback.

Oh, I love that. Something else I do is I clearly, before the event, communicate to everyone the way I want to receive feedback. I'm not surprisingly in you explaining to me everything I did bad. I'm not interesting after that many months rehearsing. I'll tell you the order you have to tell me everything. So when you have a negative feedback to give it to me in a sandwich.

Give me the good, give me the bad and re-give me the good. Have good for the end. Think about it twice. I'm not ready. No, I don't want you after me giving you everything I have. Really often people are like, oh, this is constructive criticism. What are you talking about?

Where were you? I was three hours and a half on a stage. Where were you? What are you talking about? I'll tell you the way I want to receive it and I'll tell you how much I can handle. So sometimes I'll be listening to you and say, okay, give me a break. Yes.

I'll tell you when I come back to you. Yeah, something else I do is there's a member in my team who is responsible for feedback because she knows exactly how to communicate things to me. Oh, wow. So anxiety. So don't come to me. Come to her and she'll know how to how to do.

That's so important. I love giving yourself permission to create a format in which you can create an open dialogue if people want to give their experience or opinions, but also respecting yourself enough to go, this is what works for me in order to receive that.

And that you don't have to be Teflon hearing every negative opinion of whatever people's experience were in the room. Sometimes, even if it's not a negative opinion, sometimes you just get on stage and everybody is there with their positive opinion. But that's overwhelming. You already have so much going on. Yeah.

You are not even able to enjoy what people are sharing with you. And sometimes, do you see babies? When you play with babies, when you play too much, they can start crying because they get overstimulated. Yeah. You can get... You are already overstimulated when you get off stage. You just need a moment to say, hey, now I can handle it, not before. I will tell you.

Yes, I love what you said to about it can be positive emotions and positive hormones being released and a great experience. But that doesn't mean that you don't need rest afterwards. And that's something that we've we after every event will calibrate like what's needed to recover from this. Like last year was my first BBD live in person, not digital.

And it is a whole different ballgame when you've got a thousand people in person. And I told James after day one, I was really surprised and I felt ambushed by the amount of people that wanted to talk to me. I just very naively.

on day one, after I came off stage, walked out to go to the bathroom. And I genuinely, Mavic, I genuinely did not think that I needed anyone to be with me. I was just going to run to the bathroom and come back. And I almost missed my cue on stage because people kept asking me questions and wanting to talk. And it took me so long to get backstage with James that they were like saying basically our names. And he looked at me and he was like, where were you?

And he just went, you can't do that. You can't walk out into the lobby. And I was like, I had no idea. So you learn these things after you experience them. And one thing that we learned the hard way was when the events over, we have to give ourselves the space to pack up.

take our suitcase and, you know, put everything back into it, clean up the hotel room and drive home or travel home whenever we want. So that like, we were trying to do this thing where it's like, well, the events over. So we'll get a late check out at one, which means that we'll be on the plane by three. I know. Yeah. Head in your hands. It's so funny. It's so, but you don't think about that until you've done it. And then you realize,

Wow, we were sleeping until noon. And then the hotels calling us going, are you checking out of your room? So this year we've made this, we just decided we're going to have our hotel room booked for the day after. And if we decide we're using it, then we are. And if we paid for a night that we don't state, that's all so fine. But if we want to drive home at eight o'clock at night, because we slept until three in the afternoon, then we can do that. And that was something that I had to learn through experience because I was very

I think I wasn't very mindful of how much that positive energy can wear you out too, because I thought, oh, we'll just be so excited. It's going to be the best three days of the entire year. We'll just pack up. We'll go home. One time we decided we were going to Disneyland the day after an event.

And James got like physically sick at the park because he was just completely overwhelmed. We just thought, let's celebrate. That was the best three days we've ever done. Let's go to Disneyland. And then in the middle of being in Disneyland, James was like, I feel like I can barely stand up. So now we've learned you can go to Disneyland, but don't go to Disneyland the day after you've delivered on a three day event with a thousand people.

Rookie mistake. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. You should have asked me. I should have. Now we do a celebration after our big launch, but we plan it before we get into the runway. So we plan it in February or March and we book our tickets and then our runway starts in April and the launch ends at the end of June and we go on the vacation at the end of July.

So there's a whole month of rest before we but but we've booked it so we have something to look forward to and it does feel like I'm rewarding myself for this big thing so like this year we have a trip that we planned and it's all booked and we're going on January 2nd and BBD Live ends on December 7th so we have almost this entire month to

you know, recover, celebrate, rest, eat too many cheese plates over Christmas. And then we'll go and celebrate. And I thought that was such a cool thing that you highlighted because in my mind, I would think

Oh, I'll be so excited afterwards. So I should do something exciting that's like a treat for myself when really what you need is just that quiet, silent, still space to kind of let everything that's just happened, marinate, yeah, and like just simmer down, you know, and be quiet. So true.

Just think about how you feel after a big party, that's how you feel after a big event, because you are excited, but after a party, you need to rest at least at 45 years old. You need to rest, that's exactly the same, so much excitement, and everything you need to recover after.

But it wasn't that way at the beginning. My performance coach, she says, you work hard, so you need to rest harder. As return, she says that, so. We need to make a sweatshirt. That's a fashion. Yeah! You work hard, rest harder. I want to ask you about...

your husband, because we've had so many good conversations about supportive relationships with strong, powerful women. And we've had a lot of talks off camera, off recording about like the things that you discovered about yourself that have allowed you to attract and be in a relationship where you can say something. I'm sure, you know, maybe some people listening saying, wow, you say to your partner,

I need you to take care of everything after the event. And he does that. So can you share a little bit about the dynamic that the two of you have that allows you to co-create your family together, but also to allow you to be in the spotlight and then be supported by him when you come off that stage? When I mix him,

I just had a relationship with someone. I don't say it's the truth, but at this time I felt I was too much. That was the feedback I had from people. So I spent so much time being less than what I was. So in order to not

be too much next to him. And when I met my husband, I told him, you know what, never again in my life, I will be with someone who needs me to be smaller than I am to be who he is. So do you feel like you can live with me? Do you feel like you can bear being with me? And when I met him, he said,

I can bear being with you because I'm strong and I need a strong woman. I don't need someone to be to appear weak for me to feel good.

But do you think you can bear being with a man who is okay with physical narrability? Because very often, what people are expecting from men is them being always strong, always knowing everything and not being side. Do you think you can be with this kind of man? I say 100%

If you can give me space for me to be strong, I can be all the space you need to be you when you feel sad or down or low.

And I feel like with time, what we develop is assertivity, is the ability to communicate clearly what we need. And really often we think, because we love someone, this person should guess what we need. I don't want you to guess anything. You are not in my brain. If I need something,

I trust you enough to tell you, this is the way I want to be loved now. Do you think you can give it to me now? And I'm okay with hearing. This is not the way I need to be loved right now. Can you love me this way? And I will say yes.

It's so, it's so much easier. I don't want to guess, tell me the way you want to be loved because I love you and I want you to give you the kind of love you need right now. And let me tell you how I need to be loved right now. Yes, I love that. I want to pivot a little bit because I do want to ask you about the performance mastermind and your experience inside of it. So I'm curious.

Tell me about what your experience has been inside the group over the years and specifically what you count on the group for. Because what stands out to me is James really has this way of attracting

people into the mastermind that are so open-hearted, so giving that when we get a new member, I get so excited to meet them. And then every year, I'm like, okay, well, it got better and better. And the year that you joined, I was just like, okay, who's responsible for bringing Mav again? Because

James, he is the one who interviewed me. Yes, and I'm always fascinated with the mastermind being this magnet for people that are so powerful like you, but also so heart-centered and just really dedicated to getting your message out so that you can be of service for other people. So I'm curious for you being someone who's been in the mastermind for a few years now. What's something that you count on the group?

Or, and what have you taken away from your experience as being a part of it for the last couple of years? The first thing is inspiration.

Being an entrepreneur and having a big business can sometimes feel alone. I am in the front space and I don't know many entrepreneurs that have the level of business I have. So being in a group with people who

truly understand what I'm talking about when I say we had this crazy lounge. But the only thing I am thinking about right now is being with my baby is a gift. Being able to say, oh, we skyrocketed everything. But I just want to have a last baby.

It's such a gift and the second thing is it's kind of a

an accelerated university. I don't need to go through all the years. I don't need to go through the graduation because everybody give me the answer. I don't need to wait to make a mistake to have an answer or to have an insight. And I love that. And the third thing, the most important for me is

having different perspectives on one subject or one issue. When you are in a hot set, every single time I went for a hot set, they thought about things I wish I had thought about by myself, but I don't need to think about it because I'm going to the mastermind price a year and I know they will be thinking about it. So that's really like the

accelerated university for success. What do you think is a breakthrough that you've had that you feel like you wouldn't have had if you wouldn't have been a part of the group?

Oh and gee, I don't need to kill myself at work to have big success. I don't have to worth success. I don't have to justify myself about success. That's such a breakthrough that changed everything for me.

Wow. Here's something else, OMG. I was just talking about it in my own mastermind. Yes, tell me. You know what? I never saw myself as a manager because Frederick is the best biggest manager ever in our world.

relationship so i didn't need to develop the skills and i always i was like the little mouse behind him and he was the manager and i was the vision and one year the second year gems made this big speech made this big speech about being a manager and giving

Imposing the energy in your team. And I said to myself, this was really hard for me because I am an inhibited extrovert. So it was really hard for me to put structure on the team and to really manage the team and have interaction with them. And it changed everything.

Wow, one year we went from 1 million to 1.6 million and I attribute that to the fact that I finally owned the fact that I was a manager and I had the right to create my own way of managing my team. And right now, my team is totally managed in a crazy way, the way I wanted to do it and it works.

We are having big results just because I had this breakthrough. Yes, I am a manager. I just have to create the way I manage people. Yeah, and show up as your full self in whatever version of you that that is. And it doesn't have to look the way that someone else does it. You can do it. It doesn't do it.

Yeah. What's something that you think you do uniquely different as a manager that you may have thought you shouldn't do that or like, well, I'm stepping outside the box if I do it that way.

Okay, we don't have meetings. I hate meetings. I feel like meetings. It's a waste of time. I don't have time for that. We only have meetings when I think we should and they are super short. And I am not emotionally able to interact with anyone during a launch. So we don't have meeting. We don't talk. So they talk.

by themselves and what I do every single morning in a lounge I wait until I am in the right emotional space and I send a voice note a voice note telling them okay guys here is where we are here is where we are going this is what I want you to do today I want you to focus on this I want you to enjoy and

I record this message every single morning with my best self, with my heart. This way, I'm sure, when they receive it, they know it's me. It's about me coming to their best selves and they give me the best of them, but we don't chat or talk. I don't have energy for that.

I really want to highlight that you said that you are mindful to record that message when you're in your best space. So you're responding to them, not reacting to them. It's not coming from a place of, I have to do my message from the team today.

Or else and then you're just going down the list of everything that needs to occur it really it's an inspirational message from their leader when you are holding yourself in that space of leader not coming from the space of.

reactivity or obligation or pressure. It's definitely getting yourself in that space first because you can't give away what you don't have. And sometimes this time can be really late in the day. I don't care. I will record it when it's the best time. For example, I love that. It's still reactive from our numbers and I'm not happy.

I won't record anything last time before our third workshop. So the third day of the open card just before the workshop. I was super excited, pumped up. I recorded my message telling them, I'm sorry, it's super late, but I don't want to record anything when I'm not in the right space. Now it's me. And it was super happy and we crushed everything.

I love that because sometimes as the leader, I think it's easy to feel the obligation to respond immediately all of the time. And one of the best pieces of early coaching that I got in management was if you receive news or you read an email or you get a text message and you feel that you have a bristly reaction to it,

don't respond in that moment. Just take a minute. It's okay for you to go, I'm going to put that aside and I'm going to respond when when I'm at my best self, not just reacting to and there's a discipline in that because there is a I'm sure there is like a a natural impulse of

Okay, I'll just get it done every morning at eight. That's what I'll do. Every morning at eight, I will record my text message to the team. But what's really neat to circle back to what we began talking about is that in the world of feminine power,

You do need to be in the right emotional space to deliver the most effective, powerful message. And that might not be at eight in the morning on time every day. That's super true. And I am.

coaching my team through that for them to give themselves space and to give me space. For example, when we record a podcast and they send me the Shippet and they want me to re-record it to have the reader for Instagram, you may send me the video and I may not be

my best self, so you will have to wait. So I always say, give me space because if I'm not in the right space, I won't require it because we won't have the results we won't. And the real takeaway for this year is giving ourselves more space for us to be able to handle our emotions and everything we are going through because life happens.

Yes, that's so feminine too, actually, and energetically when you're working with masculine or feminine energy, the masculine energy is the energy that's going forward. So it's the energy that's filling the space. And then feminine energy is about creating the container of the space that I magnetizes the energy.

I love what you're talking about. Really often, Frederick says, oh, just do that. Can you just give me an answer? They sent you those pictures. They just want you to make a decision. And I say, I'm like, I will. But when the time comes, I mean, sometimes for one of our problems, he sent me some jewelry and he wants me to shoes. And he says, but you already have the pictures. And I was like,

I think I know the one I prefer, but that's not the time and I will come back to you.

I love that. Yes, and I love that you first have to give yourself space to do that because where I can see a reflection of myself is there are particular contexts where I'm really good at that where I'll just say, I'll know when I know and I'll come back to you when I know. But then there's other contexts where I put pressure on myself and tell myself they need an answer now and I should know it now.

I love that because you know what, for one of my problems, I did that too long. And at the end, I said to myself, that's not what I want to create. That's not. And I said to Frederick, we have to do it differently. And I will come back to you and tell you how we will do because that's not what I want to create because when I feel pressured, I make a choice because I know how to make a choice, but that's not the best choice.

So I need more room, I need us to change the way we make the decisions and I need us to create more space. And going back to what we were talking about, as I clearly communicated, I needed more space now. We have a system in place that gives me this flexibility to move around.

Oh, I love that. So wonderful. Mavic, if people want to work with you, how do they find you? They have to speak French, but you can find it.

If you just want to enjoy yourself with me and work on your mindset in French, you can find me on Instagram. Mavic right, just Mavic right. Mavic and bright like being right. I love it. That's a perfect name for you too. Thank you. Is there anything that you want to leave people with? Is there anything that I didn't ask you that you wish I would have asked you about?

Yes, I wish you would have asked me about what you do inside the mastermind for intuition. Well, let's talk about that. I wish when I first saw you, I felt this big attraction and I felt something I don't use to feel around women. I felt intimidated. By me? By you.

because you were in your power. Every time you are talking about intuition, leading meditations or facilitating exercises, making people better managers, you are in your power. And I said to myself, is she too cool to be my friend? Is my English too broken to be her friend?

And what I've learned being around you is just being you is enough. Just sometimes you do more when you don't say anything just by being there perfectly grounded because you are super grounded. Just being in the room in this tremendous energy

changes the energy in the room and changes the journey for everyone in the mastermind and for in everyone's business. I wish you have asked me about that.

Oh, that's so wild because I had the same thought about you. I think I went to James and I was just like, I don't know if we'll ever be friends with Mavic because she's just so elegant and cool. But the best I can hope for is that, you know, I'm one of her favorites.

And then we had this moment. We had this moment where you sent me a voice memo about being friends and I was just so touched by it and honored by it and also, you know, almost stunned by it. Like, oh my gosh, I feel like I've been invited to sit at the cool kids table because I admire you so much on so many different

levels. I think it's so easy to admire everyone who's in the mastermind. And I felt the same way about you. There's just something that I felt immediately in awe of you and inspired by you. Like you're one of the people that I met and I was calling my mom telling her about you and sending her pictures of your outfits going, do you think you could help me learn to dress like this?

I can dress you all life long, you know that. I just want to add something. I just want to add something about this voice note because I talked about it to my mastermind because I went some months without having news from you and I was driving my husband crazy and saying, why isn't she answering me? And once he said, you said being powerful is

being big and being vulnerable. So if you want her in your life, just send her a voice note. And I said, but of course, why didn't I? And why didn't I? And when I sent you these voices and you answered to me, I said to people in my mastermind so many times,

between women's, our ego, prevent us from going after people we really want in our lives. And really often we stay in our little dark corners saying, nobody want to play with me. And we should just send a note saying, hey, I really appreciate you. And I really would like to spend more times with you. Sometimes people want answer and you know, definitely they don't want you and that's it.

But most of the time people will say, hey, I'm sorry life has been busy. And I really would like to spend time with the YouTube. Yes, I remember when I got that message going to James and being like, I'm so touched by this. I think I just had this perception that.

the mastermind people just come and they want to hang out with each other. So one of my roles is to just kind of hang back and be the conductor of the orchestra, but not in the orchestra. And that if people are voice memoing me, they probably just want like a piece of coaching about their business. So that's what I'm there for. But I shouldn't expect for anyone to reach out wanting to be friends. To me, it was such a gift and also a moment of

feeling like true belonging and just the love that women have for each other of like women lifting each other up. Because it's such a neat moment when a woman that you deeply respected in Meyer says to you, I admire you and I want to be close to you. It was one of my highlights of my year actually. Yes. So thank you for that.

I thank you. I thank you for bearing me with my broken English. Thank you. Oh, my gosh. I think your English is incredible. I wish I could wave a wand and speak French as well as you speak English. And I respect anyone who knows multiple languages as well, because I'm one of those token Americans that knows like conversational phrases from many languages, but is not only fluent in English.

So good. Well, I could spend days and days with you and never run out of things to talk about. But what do you want to leave people with? You are not too much. If you feel like you are too much, you are living in the wrong circle. You are not too much. You have the right to be who you are. And you have the right to let people see who you are because the more you you are,

the better people you will attract to you. You don't need people who think you are less than what you are. You want people in your life to love you for who you are, for how big you are and who are okay with your vulnerabilities. Everything is okay. Yes. Amen.

Mavic, thank you so much for being so generous with your time to be here on the Mind Your Business podcast. And we'll link up in the show notes where people can connect with you on Instagram. And I will see you in just a few days at our Boston mastermind retreat.

If you are listening to this episode and you feel like you might be a great fit for the mastermind or you're more curious about hearing more about it, James will be on briefly to share more about how you can get more information about this incredible group of powerful entrepreneurs. And we'll see you next time on the Mind Your Business podcast.

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