E876 - Heidi Montag & Spencer Pratt, Olivia Holt, Rachael Speaks, Bachelor Grant’s Music & 6min Voice Memos
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January 30, 2025
TLDR: Today on The Viall Files: Reality Recap, Heidi Montag and Spencer Pratt debut their new remix of 'I'll Do It' with Pitbull, share experiences from the fires, and chat about other topics. Olivia Holt joins for a game of 'Reality TV Would You Rather.'

Welcome back to another exciting episode of The Viall Files: Reality Recap! This week’s episode features Heidi Montag and her husband Spencer Pratt, alongside Olivia Holt, discussing new music releases, personal challenges, and entertaining segments that you won't want to miss.
Key Highlights
1. Heidi Montag's New Music
- Heidi Montag made waves by releasing a new remix of her track "I'll Do It" featuring Pitbull, creating an exciting collaboration that fans have been eagerly awaiting.
- Their chemistry shined as they discussed their creative process and the personal challenges they've faced recently, especially after experiencing devastating fires in their community.
2. Personal Resilience During Tragedy
- In light of the recent wildfires that impacted their lives drastically, both Heidi and Spencer shared how they've navigated this emotional terrain. They emphasized the importance of being strong for each other and their children during trying times.
- Spencer highlighted how his family, specifically his father, nearly faced harm during the crisis, which only intensified their need for solidarity.
3. Fun with Olivia Holt
- Olivia Holt joins the fun as they play a game of "Would You Rather", focusing on reality TV dilemmas, discussing everything from dramatic breakups to outrageous scenarios in the reality show world.
- Olivia also shared insights on her current film, "Heart Eyes", reflecting on her acting journey and the challenges of making a mark in Hollywood.
4. Reflections on Reality TV
- The conversation captures the essence of being in the public eye, how relationships are tested under scrutiny, and the unique dynamics of fame.
- Spencer and Heidi candidly discussed their experiences on reality television and how it shaped their relationship, emphasizing that authentic communication is key.
5. Community Support and Industry Connections
- As they navigate their challenges, both Heidi and Spencer acknowledged the outpouring of support from fellow celebrities and the importance of community.
- They shared stories about the connections they’re building, like those with Avril Lavigne and others, illustrating how partnerships can flourish in times of hardship.
6. The Importance of Accountability
- Spencer expressed his commitment to holding parties accountable for the impact of the fires and their aftermath, reflecting a deeper understanding of social responsibility that comes with their public platform.
- This segment underscores the mission to ensure that the voices of those affected are amplified and heard as they work toward rebuilding their lives.
Conclusion
This episode of The Viall Files isn't just about entertainment; it's about resilience, community, and the power of music in healing. With Heidi’s new music at its core, listeners are encouraged to stream and support the song to help lift the spirits of not only the artists but a community grappling with recovery.
Make sure to catch the full episode for an engaging discussion filled with humor, heartfelt moments, and exciting updates from Heidi, Spencer, and Olivia! Don't forget to support Heidi's new track "I'll Do It" on all major streaming platforms!
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What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Valve Files reality recap edition. I am your host Nick, and I hope everyone's having a really great Thursday. Yeah, that's, that's what I want. That's how I want to start. Well, I also just want to start by thanking everyone for their well wishes that, uh, they sent now and I obviously we dropped that very personal episode about the miscarriage now he experienced.
Not too long ago. So I just want to say thank you. I've been pretty much staying offline But I know now he's got a lot of nice lovely messages and if you sent me something I appreciate it. I'm trying not to anything Grant Alice is I did not know is in the music is did any of you know I feel like that was his whole bit was like that he Did he did he was quite good. I just thought that was like a hey like party trick
Well, we did see in the previews for this season that he was going to be singing and playing piano and stuff. No, no, again, talent. Yeah. But yeah, we just thought it was like a hobby. Yeah, I just, yeah. Like, oh, I found out one day I could beatbox. So now that's what I bust out of my party trick. We didn't know that it was like, oh, you are an artist. Now I'm hearing that, uh, not, I'm not surprised, but is bachelor nation coming for him? It seems so. What are they saying? Not here for the right reasons. Oh God, God forbid. I mean,
I just want to say, if someone needs to be the president and founder of the Grant Ellis musical fan club, I will carry that mantle.
I'll be VP. Okay. We're going to go Spencer Pratt on it. Yeah. You know, should I, should I just start making threats to people? Yeah, we can't. Yeah. We can only do number two. Yeah. I'll be like, guys, I don't want to pass Heidi. She needs a new house. Trying to make this the number two song. We're trying to make this the number two song on Spotify and all the billboards. It's a good song too. It is a good song. It's called party girl.
Oh my god, it's so good. I want to listen to the club. I want to go to the club. Can we put this on? I don't have TikTok on my phone anymore. I can work that out for you. My team has access to the TikTok that I don't. I can't get on my own TikTok. I lost access to mine. So if they post any weird shit, guys, I was definitely hacked.
I did find a solution to this, by the way. We buy Sierra a new phone and then you can have Sierra's old phone for TikTok. I'm actually quite pleased. I don't need to be on that shit. It's great. I just find it to be a little like, what if I want to? I'm not mad at Justin trying to get me a new phone though.
It's a thing. People are buying old phones right now. They're selling them for like $50,000. It's giving flappy bird craze to be able to be on TikTok for an extra 73 days. Is that why? T minus, yeah. $50,000 for 73 days is crazy. That's crazy.
That's insane. It's real. It's even more insane than Bachelor Nation not wanting to support an up-and-coming artist. Guys, they casted an influencer. They casted many influencers. Yeah, they're all influencers. They're all influencers. Every one of their bio is like, I want to be famous. It's basically what all of them said. How dare you go on TV and not want to be famous? Didn't one of them want a New York billboard? A Times Square billboard? Yeah, Chloe wants to be in Times Square. Yeah.
She's not even hiding it. And she should be. But also, the fact of the matter is he came on the show as a contestant and didn't release any songs while he was a contestant. So, like, let him as the Bachelor release his song. Yeah. Yeah. He definitely got to talk into, I'm guessing, from the producers for sure.
Let the man live, express himself through art. Listen, I would be just as pissed as Bachelor Nation if it sucked. Like if it was a shitty song, I'd be like, are you for real? Like you're trying to promote this shitty ass song. No, it's not good. No, I would be like, come on, for real. But because it's so good, it's like.
I wouldn't, you would be mad. I would be, I would, I would be, I would be disappointed in Grant for the lack of self awareness for him to like put himself on blast for not dropping an absolute hit, but it's a smash. I wonder what to pop star Heidi Montauk thinks about it. We will find out later this episode because Heidi and Spencer will be in studio. Finally, we get to talk to the icons that are Heidi and Spencer. I, I, and truly again, I love this couple. I love the story. I love the way they're riding for each other.
Wait, so has Grant said anything about people hating on him? Or is he just like? Probably not. He's kind of like not allowed to speak for himself publicly. Oh, he's got a muzzle on. Yeah, probably. Yeah. I don't know. Like maybe he's already gone rogue. So yeah. Where is it charting at all? I don't know. Let me check. But don't worry. Nick texted him or some other grant. We don't know.
Grant no last name and next phone received. I'm not good at saving numbers. And I did get a new phone. So like usually I refer to like I go to like the text threads. There have been people who have texted me this morning given obviously the news that we dropped yesterday. Some people I'm like no idea what this is. And I have this respond back with like a heart. I like the idea that you might have like texted like your old accountant or something just like love the song love the episode. I said love the episode love the song with a music emoji didn't say it was from Nick.
You're like, oh my god, you listen to my soundcloud. It could be a grant from 20 years ago. It really could be the song. And I know that Spotify takes a few days to like update accurately, but as of when it was released, it has 8,914 plays on Spotify.
Get those numbers up. Only eight. I'm probably 25 of those. Only a thousand. He's an indie artist. I feel like that was probably before he released it before the episode. It's an absolute banger. Yeah. It looks like he released it the night of the premiere and then the same day there's a Rolling Stones headline that says the new bachelor says he's open to therapy since filming the reality show.
A musician who's a smash hit. A musician who would go to therapy. That actually knows. Yes. That's all. He's healthy here. We need to talk about that. Wow. Well, I just, I mean, I'll never understand the internet trolls. If you are trolling online, you need therapy. Yeah, like let people enjoy their lives. Anyways, Team Grant, like, let's, let's make sure we're writing for this song. Let's make sure we're dancing to the song on, on, on all platforms.
playing it on Spotify right now on silent as we speak. Is it on? Can we can we upload it to TikTok and Instagram? Can we do that? Can we be the first one who tries to get this music going? Original audio and then it shows your face. How do you do that? How do you do that? We can do an original audio. He might have already uploaded it. I don't know.
We have to make a viral dance or like moment and then use his audio and then just have like that. Has he loaded it or has his handlers already gotten their claws into them?
on there. You can make it in it. Yeah. Oh, my God. And I know what I'm doing later today. Yeah. Okay. Filming a TikTok on my phone. Did you think Meryl Streep would listen to Grant Ellis's song? If she has taste. That's so well. Meryl does famously have taste. She does. You know what else happened to her? Tell me.
Well, she was forced to cut a car-sized hole in her fence to flee L.A. wildfires. What is her fence made of? What did she use to cut it? Wirecutters. Yeah. She has a wire fence to her neighbors. And I guess it's the wirecutters. Yeah. So basically, Abe's tree per nephew spoke out to New York magazine saying my aunt Meryl Streep received an order to evacuate on January 8th. But when she tried to leave, she discovered that a large tree had fallen over her driveway blocking her holding exit.
Determined to make it out, she borrowed wire cutters from a neighbor, cut a car-sized hole in the fence. She shared with the neighbors on the other side and drove through the yard to escape. That's what she learned on set of Mamma Mia while running that hotel. What an iconic line, my aunt, Meryl Streep, right? Where was my inshorts in it there? He's probably running shock on being like, hurry, Meryl. You missed one. Yeah. So the car-sized hole for Martin was a bus size. I'm just more like shocked that she has a wired fence.
She said it was her. It was the defense she shares with her neighbors. Maybe it was her neighbors. I'm not doubting Meryl. I just, I just want to see this fence. Also the wire cutters. I'll reach out to Meryl. Shall we jump into the mat and Rachel little? Sure. What did she say? Leah, do you want to go for it or historian?
Yes, okay. So Rachel and Matt break up. It's devastating. But what happened is even more devastating. Basically, they are food bloggers. As we know, I watch all their videos. Is she also a food blogger? Or is she planning on to continue to food blog? Are they now competing? He's involved in the content. I mean, so what happened was she was looking for a restaurant.
to go to. And it didn't live up to expectation. She was stressed about it. Anyway, every it blows over, they get over it. The next day she was, she felt like he was annoyed with her. So she asked, are you annoyed at me? And then it kind of snowballed into a conversation about how she doesn't have qualities that he wants in a wife. He's not sure if he'll ever propose to her, basically doesn't want to waste more time of hers.
Then he breaks up with her as she is getting on a plane. When you say as she's getting on a plane, like he dropped her off at the airport and said, by the way, we're broken up or.
I believe this all happened while they were on the trip to Japan. So maybe I think they're getting on separate flights. What's crazy is that she, uh, he goes Instagram official while she's on this flight. Some of her friends and family members found out about the breakup while she was on this flight. Anyway, I don't know how I feel about this. I mean, it definitely lacks tact.
After four years, this would be a very frustrating way to be broken up with. And I'm sorry, but like saying, I don't want to waste your time after four years of
I'll say this in slight defense of Matt. It's just like, listen, there's no good way of breaking up with someone. You're always going to be the bad guy. People are allowed to like not have feelings like clearly the per Rachel's version of the story. It lacks tact and sensitivity and empathy and care. And it definitely gives Rachel every reason to be angry and hate Matt for sure.
I do always say, like, when you break up with someone, sometimes the most selfless thing. I don't think Matt was trying to be selfless. I think he was being selfish and like, you didn't know what to say. So he just did it this way. But like, when you break up with someone, if you give them a lot of reasons that hate you early on, it's definitely easy for them to move on. I don't think Matt deserves any medals for this, but like, have you ever heard of someone breaking someone's heart and they go, yeah, they did it in a really great way. That was really, that was awesome. Wow. You deserve a medal for the way you scientifically broke up with me.
The nicer the things that you're saying, the worse it is. You're an amazing person. You deserve the world. And I love you so much. You'll always be in my heart and I'll always care for you and I'll always love you. Then why are we breaking up? I'm going to jump out a window. It sounds like you love me. There's just no good way. The fact that he posted while she was on a plane is wild behavior for sure. But he's definitely cutting the cord.
He said this is what I said. And in case you didn't know, now your whole family does. Yeah.
Definitely lacking tact and sensitivity, but you know, I don't know. Not evil. He didn't come in a crime. Yeah. He said, setting her up for bigger and better. Also, she says that a few days before they were talking about how he feels so lucky to have her as a partner. So, and he said, like, there are so many qualities that he loves about her. Clearly, he made up this reason as to why he wanted to break up with her because... What are you supposed to say to someone? Like, you know, it's like, you know, and every time someone wants to have the talk,
And I always tell people who call it and I literally talk about it and don't text your ex happy birthday blog. It was just like going and having one more conversation is just like asking the person who already told you they don't want to be with you to find more reasons to tell you why they're not interested in being with you.
You know what I'm saying? There's just no good way. Either way, when you break someone's heart after certainly a period of time, especially if it's a long relationship, especially if there were conversations about the future, you're always going to feel like that person stabbed you in the back. They lied to you. They didn't follow through with whatever promises you guys made as a couple when things were good.
It is sad to see it's sad. I mean, you couldn't, you can see in Rachel's face just how like heartbroken she is. And I mean, I, I feel for her, I mean, I feel for her with a breakup. I still go back to what we said when we first heard the announcement. I, I think what Rachel had to experience going through the show itself and that whole ordeal, she made a mistake and she was martyred.
I do think we're in the era of people should just not be on their Instagram accounts. First, Matt, now Shed Media. Have you been seeing this? So Shed Media is the production company that produces Salt Lake City and Ronie and Ronie. But basically, they have a casting Instagram account that's followed by Jenna Lyons and another other. It's a real casting. Yes. It's like, you know, like the bachelor casting hasn't their own Instagram and, you know, like, yeah.
So first, when right after the premiere airs, which it kind of did pick up after a season of flopping, the casting account posted Roni casting calls. So basically a casting new woman reunion still has an area. So it's kind of weird. And they also don't usually cast housewives on an Instagram post, like it's not open casting.
Then whoever's running this account is going crazy. So on their stories, they start posting multiple slides. Do not come at me with their complaints, insults or ridiculous comments and all caps, you will be blocked. Also, in all caps, I only have time for Roni. Save your other topics for another time, another slide. Also, in all caps, please be real with yourself. If you're interested in submitting, do you actually see yourself with this cast?
It like this person is taking this like it's their personal Instagram. Yeah. We don't know who you are. Yeah. It'd be like if Mary went on the vial files Instagram and just started like going off. And I was like, if you have anything mean to say about anyone that I like, shut your fucking mouth. Let's wait. So no one would be gone. No one has been like we would have a coaching. Yeah. We have a PR session. Yeah. Yeah. Do you want me to hand it over? It might go really well. Who knows? I mean, everyone's talking about this.
Yeah, maybe do you think it's a stunt it has to be it has to be they've been taken down and like I don't know if like it was an intern or like someone posted on their normal account But then it happened to be but then they're clearly responding to people close friends I mean the amount of times Sierra tags being a video Anna and then it's deleted. I'm like, well, she has wrong account It's the most mortifying moment of my life. I just didn't play akin to us. I'm literally like fuck
And it's like all like loading and I'm trying to wait for it to post fully before you can delete it. No, one time I posted my own personal story on the vial files account and Nick's book is going on, guys. Well, are. Another I'm not logged into.
Well are we had a design meeting yesterday for the lake house and Nixon then our episode from the yesterday and he was like please don't wait, wait, don't listen to that. Wait, hold on. I'm trying to send you a Pinterest link. They're like, yeah, fuck you Pinterest. Like every time you say copy link, it like it doesn't never work the first time. So like for anyone out there sending a Pinterest link, make sure it says your laptop copied link. No.
It needs to say copy link because it never works. Also heads up when you send the link if you wait a couple seconds it will make a bubble so you can see exactly what you're sending. But because it just gave me the code and I didn't know what to say it forget it, write it, regret it. I am shocked with your lack of tech skills. Is your remote still talking?
It's not a lot of tech skill. It is. He has yet to fix that. You tube it. The TV is still talking every time we... I haven't figured that out. I'm actually pretty tech savvy. It's just like at this point in my life, I really... It's just a matter of, do I need it? Do I not need it? And I cleanse my... You know, it's like the water cleanse. I just... Do I need good internet back here? Do I just want Natalie to keep yelling at me every time the TV's buffering? 24, 25, 20 fixed. Turn on the channel. YouTube TV. And like, smack!
Have you ever accidentally sent a voice note, how do you accidentally have, but it definitely was just like possible. Well, yeah, no, like absolutely actually other time like I have my phone. It's like it starts recording some bullshit. Yeah. I accidentally sent a voice note of myself peeing to my boss at my last company. Say that last part out loud.
In my last company, not to Nick, but it was horrible. I literally was like immediately like, do not play that. And then everyone saved it. It was a group message. I rushed out of a dinner because I thought I was missing a producer call Friday night because somebody pocket but dialed the group chat the other day. Pocket FaceTime. Yes. Pocket FaceTime to the whole.
Here's a here's a question for Apple by the way still pissed at you guys fuck you. Why can't you have some sort of like but dial prevention feature? Yeah, like you have to hit the button to make sure that like the I can read every metric in your body giving ass print versus fingerprint. Let's not how hard could it be to like be like your phone is clearly in a pocket We're not trying to call anyone. They do have it for the emergency call button. It gives you three seconds with the loudest alarm you could everything
Yeah, so why can't they do it when your phone's in your pocket? You're about to send a voice memo to someone you haven't talked to in a long time. You're telling me Apple, Apple is going to communicate with Spotify to recommend me Grant's new song the next time I go on Spotify, but they cannot. Yeah. Does it ever happen when your phone is in your butt or is it like when you're holding your
Not in your bottle. Obviously not in your butt, but like how often does your phone call someone when it's actually in your pocket? I feel like it's like, shockingly I'll take out my phone and it's like there's a voice memo recording. Which cheek do you prefer when it's in your butt? Usually my right, but sometimes my left. Okay. Good to me. Which one betrays you the most? I'm ambidextrous with my butt. Yeah.
I did have a Britney moment yesterday in the interview. We saw it where I like looked down and I had like three minutes of the three minutes of the interview recorded on my phone. And I was like, I feel like majority of the time my flashlight is on and people think I'm recording or something, but it's just my, I've turned my flashlight on. That's what happened with Britney in Salt Lake City.
Also, Siri, when no one's talking to you, that's when you decide to pop up. Does anybody notice that? Yeah. Like a big booty husband, big dick husband, heart, heart, eggplant, eggplant, Nick. It's like, who are you like? Relax, girls. And then it calls some random person from like your past. Sarah. Yeah. And then it calls, it just calls them. It's not even like, are you sure you want to call that person? It just calls them. And then they call me back and I'm like, fuck, I haven't spoken to this person.
Oh no, my series broken and I actually feel very very comfortable. I've never used Siri. Do you guys use Siri? Yeah, all the time. Hey Siri. Hey Siri, shut the fuck up baby.
That's my take on it. You know what I didn't know that you could do though? It's send a six and a half minute voice note. That was the scariest fucking voice note I've ever heard in my life. That's giving voice memo. Not even because it's just about Donnie. If I heard it from anyone, if I heard it from my own husband, I'm calling the police. That was very scary. It sounded like he had just jacked off for two hours. The heavy breathing. It was just the most uncomfortable thing I've ever heard.
Yeah. Well, sad to say we are still in the minority. That's fucking crazy. Like, the fact that people are like, what? He literally just said that, like, I'm sure you have a baby on your boob. Like, what's the problem with that? It's like, I'm fucking sorry if any other man besides my husband is like, hey, I'm sure there's a baby on your boob right now. Like, you could say maybe you're nursing. I'm sorry. Like, you might be nursing, right? Nursing. That's the only word you're allowed to say as a man who's not my husband is nursing.
I get a voice note at 2 a.m. for my boss. I'm quitting. Yeah. That's also fucked up. Yeah. Like I'm sure you're asleep, but I'm going to send a six and a half minute voice note anyway. I will say that Justin stands. I was I saw some of the headlines and they were very offended. There was an E-news headline that said Justin Belldoni sends 2 a.m. voice note talking about Blake's book, which
True. He did. Accurate, accurate reporting. There are other headlines saying, you know, Justin Bell only said this to him. Voice don't have him apologizing. I guess he could go either way. His Justin supporters were very offended by that headline. And then in the comments, they pointed out that allegedly was following a very long text from Blake at 1.50 AM.
And I was like, huh, how do they know this? Where are they getting this from? If you look at the, like the, some of the many screenshots, like Justin had like a variety of screenshots and then the extraction thing. But if it's a response, he's literally saying like, well, exactly. So like there was a text message from Blake and that there was a timestamp. I mean, there's, it's debated whether some things are altered or not. Who knows? I don't want to get into that.
But this one does say 149 in some seconds. And according to some other ones, they had used army time. So that would suggest that at some point, blank, lively sent a 150 AM text message. But yeah, this wasn't in response to that. I mean, like, let's play it started. Hey, Blake. Two in the morning. Hopefully this does not wake you up.
He says, sorry if this wakes you up. Like what he wouldn't say that if they were just texting five minutes beforehand. We can um, uh, FaceTime or, or see each other in person soon and get to talk more, but I'm just going to send you a few thoughts and hopefully it's not going to be more than a few minutes, but that, uh, I don't have the best track record. I don't think either one of us have the best track record, uh, for voice memos.
I want to start with an apology. Man, I... Man, that's hard to do. Reading the second part of your message. Yeah, and then play the boob comment. You probably have kids all over you and a baby on your boob and you're listening to me ramble it two in the morning. I hope you're feeling better.
I just don't think anyone talks like that. But it's also, there's also in there like I get all of Blake Lively, our chemistry or that like the stuff he's saying is like not stuff I would want my husband sending someone he works with. Like that's just that I know, but it's like.
That is just the scariest. I don't know how anyone can listen to that and think there's no way that this is a man who could make someone feel uncomfortable or who is like hyper aware of like a woman's boundaries. And I only point that out because again, this is the guy who claims to be someone who like makes being hyper aware of women's boundary his entire identity.
So I don't know. That's why, for me, it just, I don't know. I don't know how you listen to that and go, yep, definitely no way he can be creepy. Can someone put like 70s porno music under it and see what would happen and what the tone of it would be? And that's, well, it's interesting enough. But listen, if you have the hots for Justin Bohedoni and you listen to that, like a lot of women are saying, oh my God, the TikToks are insane.
Yeah, they think he has a sexy voice, and they're like getting off on it. And I guess if you think he's hot, that makes sense. But what if, I don't know if the lady's out there, and Amanda has ever made you feel creepy? Think about that person sending you this message. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. You guys have your opinion, we have ours. Apparently, it's a new court date. We're going to have to wait till March of next year to figure out, well, I mean, I don't know how long this trial will last. We don't even know if it's actually going to happen, and I might get pushed back.
What could you push back? They could settle. Like I'm of the belief in the opinion that like Justin and his team very much want to continue to release information as they've stated. And that's why I don't get like, is it even debated that Justin has employed this very sophisticated like team that like smears people online? I think Justin and his team very much want to try to get them to settle. I think they want to make this exhausting and keep releasing personal information after personal information and have this be like so just
have everyone online like not agree with them so that they just get fatigued.
I do feel like it's going to be hard if they continue to release footage of like, how are they going to pick a jury for this trial? If like they're just. Well, they do have a court order in February to decide whether Justin's lawyer can continue to keep doing what he's doing or or not do that. So we'll see what happens. And I think that's like early February or something, but the actual trial. I think it's a day after my birthday. Oh, okay. I volunteer as tribute. I'll be on the jury. I'm unbiased. We are not unbiased.
Speak for yourself. We clearly have an opinion. I'm just like everybody on the jury is going to have to be somewhere between like 60 and 90. Yeah, that like doesn't have social media. But then that's going to be biased in itself because they're going to hate women. But even then that doesn't it. And those are the same people that are watching like daytime television. So you know that there's been a story on Good Morning America and also love like a young man with long hair and muscles. Your grandmother is going to be a nice boy. That's a nice boy. I don't like the tone in her voice.
Yeah. That's what's going to happen. Clearly great looking men get away with ugly men get away with stuff too. Sure. Yeah. Let's be clear. But it doesn't hurt when they're. Hi. Hi.
Why was he giving me that? Laya just quit. That's what I'm saying. Did y'all see that Logan Paul and Jake Paul are now going to fight each other? Well, someone's going to lose. Yeah. I hope they both lose. It'll be a draw. Yeah, literally. We tied. Yeah.
We hit each other the exact same amount of times. I mean, I feel like all the critics of Jake Paul is just like, you seem like you're really good, but like, can you fight an actual boxer? If that's like his lane of boxing, why won't you fight an actual like leading ranked in their prime? Yeah, ranked at some level at your weight class, you know, like clearly him fighting his brother.
You guys have been doing this since grade school. Come on now. I think they're in for the money and they're making a lot of it. They put this on Max. They got to deal with Max to air this. Do you think that no other legitimate boxer wanted to do this after Mike Tyson? Because they're like, I'm not going to sacrifice my title. Well, because obviously there's probably an agreement in the contract.
I have no idea what these contracts, but say, but there's no denying that these guys are making a ton of money, and if you're willing to fight or get the opportunity to fight Jake or his brother, you're going to make some money. I'm just saying if you don't need the money and you care about your title as a boxer, you're probably not going to fight him if it's in a clause.
You have to leave us, yeah. I'm not like that. We're not sure what's going on in that chair. I know it's like the boxing industry, but I don't think the money is there for a lot of up-and-comers, and it's not what he even used to be for the top tier people. So like the type of money that Jake and his brother can make you, I think is far more than anything a regular boxer is making these days. So I really don't think it's a lack of boxers being willing to beat the shit out of the Paul brothers. Yeah, Paul brothers. Okay, that was two first names, I always forget.
Um, I think it's like them being very careful who they pick. Right. To who they can who they want to. I wish I didn't know who they were. I think it would be a much more peaceful, beautiful world filled with flowers and roses if the Paul brothers were not famous. I have, I have made them richer. I have paid to try to see them get their beat up. I have and lost. So I do wonder who is keeping these people in business. Us. You. Yep.
I don't like violence. Speaking of another famous Paul, Taylor Frankie Paul not only confirmed that Mormon wives returns May 2025, but also the moms of mom talk are fighting. Thank God. Jesse and Demi have now unfollowed each other on Instagram and they were like the packaged pair. They look the same. They look the same. They look the same. I think it's Demi. Like more. Yeah. Demi. Yeah.
I think these are professionals who take their craft very seriously, and I have the utmost respect for them. The excitement I get every time I open up TikTok and Taylor Frankie Paul is crying on my on my feed. I'm just like, what happened now? And I'm in another rabbit hole. So they are always providing entertainment. I'm obsessed with her TikTok. Yeah. It's so messy. I can't look away. So entertaining.
What's going to happen in 73 days? How will mom talk? What if she breaks her phone? I honestly think what if like they just make an app called mom talk and then it's just mom talk. I would subscribe. Why aren't you and mom talk? You're a mom. You talk. You know.
Uh, I think it's more the dancing and I feel like I exceeded my TikTok, uh, trend dancing and COVID. Yeah. You know, I feel like I pushed it too far in COVID and I won't be returning back to that version of myself. Cause I watch them back and it's honestly the cringiest thing I've ever seen. So we all have those moments. You're afraid of river getting sick and you're just needing to like dance through.
in front of her in her. Yeah. I need to watch that at some point. It really brings like me joy. Yeah. Can we play? Can you find it? No, no, no. So good. Oh, one last insane thing, not related to mom talk, but Jill Zaren's daughter, Ali Shapiro, is dating Leo from Love Is Blind. Who and who? Jill Zaren. She's a OG New York housewife, like back with the Ramona. She was, yeah.
Her daughter, Ally, is dating Leo from Love is the art dealer. The art dealer. Oh, yeah. It's well in my mind. And she posted a photo with him captioning it. Can I see who these people? I mean, I remember what Jeremy looks like. Leo? Leo, sorry. It looks like a Jeremy to me. It does look like a Jeremy. It's not Jeremy. It's Jeremy. The way his brain just like picks a name out of the Nairn is like, that's who he said, right? I love Jeremy. It just looks like he would get kicked off of a golf course for being drunk.
But remember his whole thing was, I hear he's a nice fellow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's how he looks like. I didn't say he is.
And he's dating somebody he's never going to be concerned about wants him for his money. Before we move on with household headlines, we have Olivia Holt coming up shortly to talk about her new movie, Heart Eyes. If you are into that thriller scary movie type of thing, which I know many of you are, we are excited to talk to Olivia coming up very shortly. What's our what's our daily dilemma?
Okay. So this is a, am I the asshole story that people reported on a man disinvited from his sister's baby shower after planning entire event from the man's perspective. All right. So he's the one asking if he's the asshole. Yes. All right. The man's youngest sister announced her pregnancy after a long journey to conceive excited for her. He and his other sister offered to assist with the baby shower. However, the gestures soon led to unexpected complications.
For some reason, she took that as my brother said he would pay for the baby shower and drafted a guest list of 120 people. In an effort to get plans rolling, he created the digital invites and registration site. Book the venue offered to make centerpieces and agreed to pick up the food on the day of the event. He even committed to purchasing a stroller as a gift. His husband also volunteered to organize games for the shower. Things began to change when the pregnant sister became increasingly demanding.
The final star was when she sent him a text message criticizing his efforts, stating, I'm disappointed by how much work you've put into this shower. The situation further escalated after the pregnant sister began to complain to other family members about the lack of support she was receiving. She even questioned their mother about her contributions to the shower. My 70-year-old retired mother was taken aback by that comment.
and offered to cook food for 120 people. Following the argument between the expectant mother and her family, she took drastic measures and disinvited her brother. She's been so ungrateful throughout this entire process and has since uninvited me to her shower and sarcastically said, enjoy your 40th and remove me from my sibling group chat.
I feel like there's more to the story. It reads very hard. It's definitely giving the brother is writing this. I'm confused about is that it just sounds like the brother did a lot that his partner also contributed to the baby shower. The mom is contributing to the baby shower, so I'm confused by it.
I'm disappointed by how much work you've put into the shower because it sounds like you put a lot of work into the shower. If someone offers to help you out, I guess for anything, I'm definitely just appreciative of whatever help they can give. I don't start assuming that it's their job and responsibility and it's everything's on them. I definitely want to hear
the other side of the story because this seems so like, this is writing like, am I the asshole because I'm definitely not the asshole. She's the asshole, right? And I want to talk shit on my sister and make her look bad because like nothing about this story suggests that like it's a debate. Yeah.
If someone's offering to help, like I definitely don't, it doesn't turn into their job. Right. I would also be offended too, if I like offered help and then I ended up paying for everything, doing everything and then I was disinvited from the event. Yeah. So if that is the truth, then I would also be like, so I did all this work for you to then scapegoat me and say I can't go. But it seems hard to believe that that's all the information.
I mean, John Shaw did it to Angie Katz and Avos. Fair. Good. Say that. It happens very often. Housewives history. Housewives history. All right. Well, up next Olivia Holt. Well, we love Brooklyn. We've been talking about Berlin since we've been starting this show back in 2019 because I have often called them the eighth wonder of the world because their sheets are silky smooth and comfortable and wonderful and the prices are even better.
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Olivia, welcome to the show. Hey, thanks for having me all. How you been? Groovy. Crushing movies, making movies. Just one or two. But you're crushing. I'm good. You're crushing. Thanks, y'all. We were in bed last night watching Beverly Hills Housewives. I love that. And the hard-eyes trailer came on. We're like, oh, it's okay. That's exciting. It looks really good. Thank you. It looks spooky. How did you perfect the scream? What was your homework? I mean, Shelley Duvall.
Like the ultimate icon of she's the like OG screen queen, I feel like. Yeah. Did you actually like at home practice? Good to meet you. I think you have to. Just as it just come instinctively when you're doing the same.
A little bit of both. I don't think I fully honed in on like the blood curdling scream at home. I think I probably would get a lot of calls to the police to probably show up at my house. Something's going on in apartment B9. Exactly. Just make sure I'm definitely not here and like wherever I am, there are witnesses. So true. It's so true. But it happens in the scene naturally, I feel like.
It would like when you're on set doing these like scary movies, like does it is the vibe a little spooky or like, does that help or? Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like everyone kind of creates that environment for you. And I think especially with us, we obviously have a killer who's wearing a mask and I know who's under the mask and the second that they put the mask on, like the whole vibe changes. And you do you feel you feel like this like scary energy.
throughout the scene that I feel like a mask really does. It does its job. Yeah. Honestly, like I like I feel like this is so random, but like I've ever driven past, I don't know, a car or a 18 wheeler and they like for some reason have a scary mask like hanging in there.
I don't know why I can't say. I see this all the time. It might. Do you know what I'm talking about? It's either the mask and the car or like the feet out the back and like the fake feet. Yeah, I've seen the face. Oh, OK. Hate those people. Yeah. Why? Why? Why are we doing that?
You know, those truck drivers have a sick sense. They wrote a lot, you know, they had always in their head thinking about the craziest shit. They want to get a little like, you know, they don't get those anymore. Yeah, they don't know. I always used to like, yeah, I watched some 18 Wheeler truck drivers were like,
telling a story or doing some interview or something, and they were like, whenever we get a kid who does that, it's like a big deal. We talk about it with everyone, and we're like, we finally got a kid to get us to home. Did you do that as a kid? Yeah, of course I did. Did you do that? Absolutely. I guess kids aren't doing it anymore. That seemed like a... I almost got ran off the road by an 18-wheeler, so... You stopped doing it. I was like, I don't... I'm so clear. I'm trying to connect with the bitches at all. Not for me. Not for me.
Why did parents stop doing this? I don't know if it's the parents or yeah, I feel like that's actually a good theory. There's no way any kid, like if you're a child, like when River gets old enough and we're like, hey, do this and she'll be ecstatic. It's the parents' fault. But I feel like kids just aren't looking out the window as much as we were. Yeah, I think that's a good theory. Still the parents thought you're, hey, look at the big fucking truck and get off the phone.
I guess. I mean I won't say it like that to be clear to everyone.
I guess. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know either. But I've never seen a truck driver with a mouth. You will now. And it will honestly spook you out probably just as much as being in a room with somebody. I actually hope I do. I hope I experience that in my life. I hope you do too. What is more difficult performing on Broadway or acting as if you're about to get absolutely murdered by a scary monster wearing a mask?
I feel kind of stupid acting like I'm about to get murdered. I feel like it's such a funny environment to be in, because you're with a whole crew on set, and sometimes you're on the floor, and you're backing up. But now I'll be on the verge of death. Yeah, exactly. And then they all cut and you're like,
Okay. I don't think of that. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I don't know. But Broadway is just a whole different beast to tackle. Did you enjoy the experience? It was the time of my life. Okay. So maybe in the future, you'll return. I hope so. Okay. I hope so.
You played a very iconic character of which some people, and we love Bravo Nation, have also tried to, and when I say try, I don't mean that disrespectfully, I have not seen their performances, but Ariana played Roxy also. It's in Erica Jane. Erica Jane. She's on right now. Have you seen their performances? I have not now. Any notes?
Well, I think that they're iconic in themselves, so they're probably crushing it. And it's such a fun role to play too. And I really love that every actress that goes and plays Roxy, they kind of put their own personal flair on her. I think that's why the show is one of the longest running shows on Broadway. I think that's why it's been on for so long, because they're constantly keeping it fresh with these incredible actresses who just come on and play around with the role. Do you have a dream Broadway role?
No, I've always said if I go back to Broadway, it would be really fun to make something original.
Cause there's so many incredible shows on Broadway. And I, I mean, I really, I think I saw cabaret. I saw cabaret for the first time and to play Sally Bowles would be like a, be like a dream. Yeah. But I think it would be really fun to create a character from scratch. Get that Tony. Yeah. Fingers crossed. One of these days. What has been the most like surreal moment of your career thus far?
I think right now, I think right now, I've started off in sitcom and did that for the majority of my teenage life. And then I moved on to doing episodics. And then I kind of started dabbling into the world of making movies. And this is my first theatrical release.
which has been a dream of mine since I was a kid. I went to the movies every single weekend with my family growing up. Like that was like our family thing. Friday, family movie nights, sometimes football, but it was always we had to go to the movies. We had to see something new that was coming out and the experience of going to the theater, there's nothing like it. And I went to go see a movie the other night and the hard eyes poster is outside of the AMC and
It just, it's pretty cool. Yeah, there's like, there's nothing like that. It just, it's the world of, it's like what everyone thinks of when they think of Hollywood, you know? It's very surreal. So it does feel like a little pinch me right now, because I've never experienced anything like this. Like I've had incredible jobs that I'm proud of that have come out, but this is a, this is a, this is a territory I haven't really said before. Yeah, but the billboard, I, when I was the bachelor a long time ago, when we got dim sumg at the Americana, my
My photo is like I'm all the ones in the mall and that's that's definitely trippy. Yeah, it is. It's really cool. There's a lot of online chatter about people wanting you to play Brittany in a biopic. Yeah. How do you do? Sitting with you here now? I like I see it. I see it. Thank you. How do you feel about that?
belief in the... Honored? Oh, I'm honored that I would love to. I think... Let's make it happen. I would love to make that happen. I think she's... I mean, I grew up on Brittany. There was no one else that I was obsessed with.
Except for her like my I have so many photos of me as a child like posing like this pose and I had like a Britney Spears watch like every hour it would she would like do like a dance more other people suggest like who's your competition who are people out there.
I've actually only ever seen your name for that. So I really? Yeah. Who else? I think Sabrina Carpenter's name is not there, but she's just laughing. She's not laughing Sabrina. I mean, but they're all so talented. But I think for you, I feel very grateful to be in that pool of women that people are speculating. But I mean, Brittany's from Louisiana. Louisiana Catlett. You're from Tennessee. There's like that southern roots. I don't know. I feel like you would totally crush that. Have you practiced her speaking voice?
I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. Well, I was going to say sitting next to you. I know my southern accent is going to pop out every now and then. That's how I feel anytime. We have, like, a country artist. I'm like, how y'all doing? I know. And it's, like, easy. You know, like, at all I'm asking to do it. Who are you?
Do you come out? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no, you can't hear it. Did you have to take? I mean, I did too, and I obviously regret it now, but did you take dialect classes? Yeah.
Yeah, I moved out here to do a show so young. So it was still kind of there and kind of like everyone on the show was like, like our producers, they were like, what is this accent? Yeah, I had to take dialect lessons, but I also kind of like leaning into it. I think it kind of creates like my own little flair and thing.
But now I feel like I just talk like this. Like it's just such a straight way of talking. Yeah, I feel the same. hometown friend. I like I had a manager who was like, you're not going to do anything in life. If you have this, I mean, it was like a thick. I was very redneck and they're like, you're not going to make it anywhere with this. And so, but now I feel like, yeah, it's a part of me that like when I'm around other people from the south or my family or
I just call someone who has a slight accent. It comes out and I'm so grateful that it does because I'm like, yes, you're still in me. Exactly. Exactly. That's what I wanted to say that because I feel like there's a, I feel like a lot of people are very drawn to that accent. It was in this time of like you have to sound like a news anchor. Yeah. You know, like they weren't going to, I don't know why that was. I mean, I guess. Like Reese Witherspoon, like I feel like young Reese Witherspoon was always like throwing out that Southern accent.
Also, give me a shot at Tequila and I'm back. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true. If I get a little drunk, I am also game over. Everyone's asking, who are you? Like, I don't even know. I don't even know right now. So what do you do with your free time these days, if you have any?
a lot of free time. I don't know. I kind of like to keep it low key because during times like these, you're always so busy and I feel like you can't even catch a moment to doom scroll or do anything, you know, that feels like so removed. Yeah. You've been affected by the TikTok band. I'm a scroller though. Like I'm not, I don't make them really. So it was really, oh, it was really rough for me. I'm near that opposite. Yeah. You were like, Oh, I get a break.
Well, I haven't been on for a while as a consumer. And then I dropped my phone and broke it. Oh, very good. No, he cannot. No, it's off. Oh, yeah, you're, you're done for as soon as I went. As soon as I went to take talk and it was like everyone was like posting their where it was like, you cannot access and everyone posting that. So I wanted to see if it was for myself too. And then when it was, it's like, oh,
Yes, I'll delete the TikTok. If it's gone, and I deleted the app, and now I can... That app is not in the app store. I can't associate with you guys anymore. You won't be seeing me on TikTok in an hour. But the health has never been better. Yeah. Is that so true, though? It's so true. I'm reading my book at night and not scrolling constantly. It makes such a difference. I'm actually with my daughter while she's learning things and not incredible. Incredible. Yeah. I've never been more present.
So is that your main form of entertainment? No, it's not. I don't even mean like a bad thing. I actually think I have a really trash TV. I mean, that too. Are you watching severance? Yes. We just we just finished Don't spoil because we just finished rewatch. Well, I finished rewatching episode one, which honestly I didn't realize. I don't think I thought I think I ended watching season one spoiler for anyone who hasn't watched season one earmuffs. I thought the end of season one is when you found out. It's life.
Miss Miss Miss Casey was continued on. He was like, what is this? I'm like, this is still season one. I'm like, did you just stop watching and think that was like season finale? What happened? There's like three more episodes after that. Oh, because that was like season like episode. He thought it was like the season finale. Was that finding out that that was his wife? No, it got better. It got wild. It got really wild. Where are you in season two?
I'm caught up. Oh my God. I'm on. Yeah. I think episode three comes out. How good is Riley so far? It's. I mean, it's so great. I love the story building. I always get a little annoyed when people are like, it's so slow, which shows can be, but I love. You have to like create the world. You have to care about the characters. You have to understand like it's. Yeah. And sometimes there are episodes where you're like, they could have.
giving me that a little bit. Yeah. But if you're like that, this is what Nelly and I do. When something like Severance comes out that's like a weekly drop, we just will wait three or four weeks so that we can binge the first couple episodes rather than like watching one episode and being like, what did I just watch? I'm not really sure who's who. I'm a little confused by the characters. We haven't really gotten into the story. No, that's true. That's actually a really great way of doing it. Thank you.
Yeah, respect. I'm glad that we didn't start season one until season two is out because when we finish season one, I was like, can you imagine waiting two years plus for the next season to come out? That's crazy. Are you in reality TV? I feel like, yeah, you are, right? What is your go to?
I don't know, actually. I feel like I'm kind of all over the place with it. It used to be, well, it used to be selling sunset. I was really into selling sunset for a while, but now they're on like season 27 and I don't know. Yeah, they've gone out of the car. I feel like season one was so like, cause it was COVID time and it was like anything that came out during COVID was the best thing you've ever seen. Also, that's when I got into reality TV was during the pandemic and I hadn't really, I didn't like, I hadn't binged just a reality show like that.
and selling cents I was. You were vending. That was, yeah, I was full on binge mode and that. Are you a Salt Lake City real housewives? No, do I need to be? Shit, babe. God. And it's so awesome. Fine. Twist my arm. Love Island? Love Island, I love. Love is blind. Love is blind, yes. I'm not caught up on the newest season of Love is Blind. Okay. I feel like a lot of actors love Love is Blind.
Why do you think that it is? I don't know why that is. What does that say about it? I think a lot of actors like reality in general, because it's, you know, when you watch a movie or TV show being on set and you know how the sausage is made, I think sometimes, you know, I'm sure a lot of actors enjoy a lot of scripted programming, but I think there's a element of reality TV that is very fascinating.
to a lot of actors. I actually, hearing you say that, I think I just came up with a theory in my head. It's because we love human behavior. And we're watching so many different forms of the way people are wired in elements that they're not necessarily like the most comfy in. Yep.
Who did we have from the lioness? Genesis. Genesis Rodriguez. She's a big Bravo fan and Genesis was telling us that she studied some of the housewives for doing some character work. Yeah. For some of her roles. I mean, it makes so much sense. You want to know what an affluent person that lives in New York acts like or to Salt Lake City? Exactly. It's different. Absolutely. That's what I said. No, I know. I know what you said that. You don't think they're affluent?
What's influenced me? Rich, wealthy, wealthy, of the above. Influence. Okay. Yeah. Fuck me. That's okay. What did you think of it? I don't know. Filingual. Like fluent in my English. Oh, I thought it meant some like classy. Oh, yeah.
But I, you know, that's where I was like, trying to throw you out here guy. We have a game for you, Olivia. Oh, I love games. You're made it with the emotional game because I can't do not at all. No, this is mindless. It's a would you rather bravo edition.
Oh, fun. Reality TV. Oh, reality TV. You don't need to have watched anything to have played this game. Oh, OK. Can I also? Oh, 100%. OK. You will know maybe a little bit. Like, you'll know where some of the questions come from. OK. You'll know the backstory, but these are all things that have actually happened on reality TV. Oh, I didn't make these up. So what do you call this game? What'd you rather? What'd you rather? With reality TV edition? Oh, with Olivia Holt. Would you rather be told that you have bad banks or be told that you have a high body count hair?
I didn't my answer. I think I body count here. Yeah. Cause you can't, it takes so long to fix the bangs. Yeah. When I say like, thanks. I'm gonna take forever to grow out. Thank you so much. Whoa. You suck. Yeah. But bangs, it's like, what are you gonna do? You can only like, you have forever to think about that until they grow out. The fact that like, I think most women are agreeing with you is awesome.
Would you rather go to prison for toxivation or go to prison for frauding the elderly? Toxidation? Yeah. Anything with the elderly is like you just don't do it. Would you rather be called basic or be called boring? Basic. Yeah, basic. Do you want to contribute? I'd rather be called boring.
Really? Really? Everyone, everyone's basic. We're all a little basic. But boring? That cuts deeper than like, oh my God, you love Starbucks and fall and I flip off. I am who I am. Okay. But boring. I'm not here to entertain you. Would you rather attend a pizza party at Chuck E. Cheese or a 53 year old's but Mitzvah? Oh, this one's hard. It is not hard.
I'm going to the book. I love it. I love it. I love it. That's what they're pizza. I have to. I had. You don't like the skee ball. I never said that. I never heard you talk about the skee ball, but I have a skee ball and one hand pizza in the order of Chuck E. Cheese pizza here. Yeah. Like to go in honor of the show we were watching. Real hospitals. If I really hope no, that's called an excuse to order the pizza you like.
It's like washing a commercial. We were doing research. No one here was like, I wonder what it tastes like. Would you rather be brought on an all-expense paid trip to Palm Springs, but you have to fly back 17C coach or be the only single person invited on a couple strips?
How many couples are we talking about? Six, five, a lot of couples. That's a lot of couples. That's how many couples are on the drug? No, I understand. Definitely. But I think some people take pride in being like a good third or fifth wheel, you know, like someone who can like. Yeah, I feel like camp counselor. Yeah. I feel like, all right, you guys, let's go.
That's really the truth. I'm the judge for the volleyball competition. Yeah. I would just force everybody to play games. Yeah. And you could be like, you could just watch all the couples argue and be like, all right, well, now I'm going to go like drink wine in the hot tub. So it's so true. Or I have the glass of wine and mediate the whole thing. Yeah. No one likes it when I do that. So I actually don't know. Are you a mediator?
No, no, I would like to think in my head I am like a little of you shot up we don't want to hear from you right now. No one wants to hear. Yeah, be the 18th we are 17th wheel and I think yeah. I was like, am I the only person that's down to go on an all expense paid trip and fly home coach. Yeah, we're constantly in coach Nick. Why do you feel like you wouldn't want to do that? I would want an all expense paid trip. I don't care where I'm sitting on the way home.
You know what, you're so right. We're going to go with that one. This isn't even a question. I don't know why we suspect that one. We're good. We don't need to. I would love to just play therapist with all of them and poke holes and be like, I don't know if you guys are getting along. Oh my God. Toxic. Yeah. Would you rather catch your boyfriend cheating with two girls at his apartment or find out that your boyfriend is having an affair with your best friend?
Jesus. Yep. Where did these happen on? Uh, Southern charm. When Madison was dating Austin, she walked in on him in his apartment with two girls and then filmed it. Like, yeah. So Austin did this. She like, she like said it. Like, yeah. So Austin, yeah, had to also call her car and she like came in and like,
He was having a threesome. He wasn't having a threesome. She didn't catch him, like, in the act, but there was two girls that were not dressed, Billy, and he was in his underwear. And there's a video of him being like, Madison, what the fuck? Like, whatever. So that didn't happen. They were smooching. He brought two girls home from the bar and then.
What happened to the song? We are not getting that quality programming. That's why I said it's like I'm bummed that I've gassed the show up so bad because I'm like, it used to be crazy, but cut your boyfriend cheating with two girls at his apartment or find out that your boyfriend is having a fair with your best friend.
I think the two girls at the apartment, that's what I would think. Yeah. It's like the two random girls is a dagger and then the other one is the dagger and the twist. And the twist. Right. That's so true. And also I feel like because they weren't in the act yet, you know, like maybe it would have been different if like you saw them all having sex and then like that's an image that scarred into your brain.
But yeah, they were all just hanging out and they're on. They were all. Yeah, it was. It was the game. What's the game strip? They were hot. Strip twister. They were playing strip twister. Yeah. Would you rather be the bachelorette or compete for the bachelor? I would rather be the bachelorette.
I don't know if I can handle. If you're talking filming, I'll say from personal experience, no one would want to be the lead. If it's if we're talking strictly filming and not like the opportunities you get from like, you know, clearly, like being the lead experience, you're the lead. Right. The filming process. So much worse being the lead. That makes sense.
Yeah, they hang out with your friends most of the time. Every once in a while, maybe get to talk to someone you like. The other time you have to like make out with a bunch of people you do not want to make out with and entertain a bunch of people you don't like and have awkward conversations with a bunch of people who don't know how to talk. Am I like getting eliminated for a step?
I don't wanna make out with a bunch of people I don't wanna make out with. Yeah, my reason for wanting to be the Bachelorette is because I don't have to deal with the drama, the nonsense of the house. To that extent, because obviously you have. Well, then I don't lose lose. I try to take myself out of this one.
Can we choose neither? I know. I know. I know. I'd rather not be the bachelor. Would you rather get engaged to someone you've never met before or have your significant other give you an ultimatum to get married or break up?
These keep getting harder. They do. I definitely am the ultimatum. I cannot marry someone that I have not seen or get engaged to someone that I have not seen. I'm with you. I mean, shit, like, you know, should I get off the pot, you know? Yeah. I think I agree, right? Yeah. They would in part of this process in your decision-making process have to live with someone else for three weeks. True. Okay.
I think I might change my answer. You're going get engaged. Well, because well, if we're talking about love is blind, like at least I get to know their personality. And I'm not really like, I don't have like a looks thing. Like I'm not a physical like I do data rock.
Well, what does that mean? Do you like, no, no, no, not the personality of Iraq, but they could look like Iraq and you got to have it. They have a funny, a funny, a funny, funny, you have to make me laugh. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. Would you rather be investigated by the FBI or be investigated by your friends who hired a PI?
Oh my god, friends who hired me. I like the FBI. Sorry. What am I? Am I on their radar? But I guess that's true too. I was like, I don't know. But I feel like having your friends investigate you and go into like your background behind your back. Like that's all I'll take. I'll take. Like the federal government being like, we need to investigate. They don't lose cases. What if it was mistaken identity?
I don't know. Would you rather hook up with a man who dresses up as a pirate or a man who calls himself Johnny Bottles? Tough one. That is tough. Likes to dress up as a pirate. Yeah. I'm going to go. Yeah. Because everyone can be a goofball. Everyone's in a while. We love a goofball. But if he's coming to you, you only can call me Johnny Bottles, not Johnny. It's like, I can't do that. A self-proclaimed nickname. You're one of the worst humans in the world.
Would you rather be broken up with after fantasy suites or after hometowns? So after you flock or after you make your family or on a flight back when your ex announces it to the world before before you tell your family.
But also fantasy suites is after both. Fantasy suites is after both. They've taught your family. So I gotta go after you meet my family. I'd rather you just like, instead of going through all of that. What was all that? You're like your stroke game is weak. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like I'd rather you break up with me after you like meet my crazy aunt versus like after you meet my crazy aunt and then we have sex. I can assure you though, farther you go, the worse it is.
unpacking trauma. Do you want to talk to me? Okay. These are triggering for Nick. Can we get a new game? We're triggering my husband. Okay, one last one. I'm fine. I'm fine. Single tear. He's sweating. Would you rather have a guy you like bring a hot new girl you've never heard of on a group vacation or have a guy you don't like follow you around like a puppy on a group vacation?
Summer House, our introduction to Sierra was Hannah, burner was dating Luke, and then it's the COVID season. Luke's late coming and he brings Sierra with him, but nobody knew that he was bringing her until like he calls on the way there.
So she thought that she was hooking up with Luke the whole time and then he's bringing this hot new girl. And then this other is Taylor and JT when they go on vacation. The Bahamas last season and JT was just like, I'm here for you. I would do anything to not have to go on vacation with JT. So you would rather watch your crush your lady with somebody else for an entire vacation? Well, first of all, Nellie loves me.
I don't know if I want to be like followed by someone I am like, I don't like I feel like I could tolerate that more though than watching somebody I like with somebody else. That's how that is true.
Yeah, but then if you saw you talk to a guy, he would come up to you and be like, you know what, you know, what about this guy? He's like, I'm one time I saw him like not tip a waitress and or something stupid. He would bring something up.
Well, that wraps it up for Would You Rather with Randy Tanner? Yeah. That was fun, y'all. Thanks for playing. Thank you. We learned so much about you from that. Really? Yeah, I feel like we learned that you don't care about looks. All you care about is personality. Funny rocks. OK, I do care about look. But you'll marry a funny rock. Sure. I'm going to make that my Instagram bio. We'll marry funny rock. We'll marry funny rock.
You do love his blind over the ultimatum. Can we can we bring up Olivia is a hard eyes trailer and hear that scream one more time as we send her underway. That was a that was a real scream. That was a real machete.
What a great date night, Valentine's Day movie. Out February 7th, by the way, everybody. Honestly, because I can get pretty kind of steaming, you know, like you watch that movie, you get scared, you go home. You have to do it one more time because you can get killed tonight. Alright, grab your loved ones, go to the movies. Out February 7th, Olivia, it's been so much fun. Thanks for coming. So good to see you. Bye-bye.
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I love the leather. Yeah. Wow. Well, none of the pants they sent fit. You know, I've gained 30 pounds emotional eating. So they did send me some beautiful pants that don't fit in these shorts or adjustable stuff. You know, they did send this beautiful jacket that I got some ash on yesterday, which I feel like it makes it more vintage. Is that also Hugo Boss?
I don't know if you're supposed to say Hugo Boss or Boss, because they have two different brands. Yeah. And they're like, I was DMing and tagging Hugo Boss a lot. And they kept on being like, I think you're trying to get at Boss. And so I love them both. Did you give them like some like feedback? Because honestly, it's been very confusing for me. I just realized this morning that I've been tagging them. Because like, even when I buy a suit, it's like a boss or you know,
And yeah, it's just funny because I jokingly spent all this money on sale for my friend's wedding before the fires because I needed a like a suit, a dress rehearsal, like so I needed three looks and I spent like two weeks going back and forth to a boss in Century City and I was so happy and I put them all on. I kept tagging them joking like, hey, can I be like your new influencer model? I know you got the tennis player, but you know, you want somebody more humble, relatable.
And obviously they never responded. And this is on humble. Yeah, so they never responded. And then all these boxes hit the house. Once the house burned down, they're like, oh, you can influence for us now. So that was great.
It's been a while, man. Psycho. We're excited to have you finally here. Listen, you're a literal international pop star now. Like we operate on your time. Oh, truly. Truly. Truly. It's a different, this is a different height and spencer than what we, when was that like a year ago? I mean, we've had, we've had some performers on, but like, I don't think we've ever had a performer on like yourself at the height of their career. So this is the first for us.
Well, I feel like it's a joint pop collaboration at this point. You know, it's like, yeah, it's my sound, but I feel like the enthusiasm and support is like for both of us. I feel like people are loving the music in lieu of support. So I feel like, well, he's a pop sir, but it's like he's your scooter. You know, I know he in some circles, depending on like, you know, the Swifties and all, but like, I know he's like persona non grana, but like his management skills scooter Braun can't be.
What is happening? I don't know. I mean, comparing him to who? No. I mean, I can't. I can't. I can't go into that. So hold it for. I have enough issues. We give what you're saying. He says he's a great manager. Whoever the greatest manager. I get what you're saying.
Yeah, we can believe that. So what's your second Blake and Justin? I did just do a TikTok because I had to be clear that I was bought off Mr. Ryan Reynolds. Well, we did a mint mobile app. So we've also apparently. Yeah. So once you pay me, it's very hard to get me to turn on you. So I listened to that seven minute voicemail. And if anybody leaves me a seven minute voicemail, they're criminals.
I truly don't need a deep dye of the case anyway. Who left to a voicemail? You haven't heard it. I would have had you just not have time for that. Which one? She's not bidding her schedule. But what is it? There's a baby brother boob right now. He said that to her. That can't be a thing.
No, but he was, listen, no one agrees with us. Everyone's like, no, he just, like she was breastfeeding. What's the big deal? He talked about her boob. Like he said, he was sorry. Three in the morning. Not even should be. And then he called her. It's three. Seven minutes on. And it sounds like a romance, like sex novel. Is Pippo texting you right now?
I have Pitbull's number. Pitbull talks like he raps. Like if you think I talk fast, Heidi was like, you're she really made me stop in my life. She's got a phone. She's like, Oh, you're nothing. I just like, I just said, you think you talk fast. It's like he had Spencer and fast forward.
It was it was incredible. And it was the most concise, like conversation blown away, inspired blown. I was like, who did I just talk to an alien? That was unbelievable. He was like, Mama, I got you and God is going to put it together for a reason. And we're going to help the world. And yeah, the whole thing. And he's like, I got you. Don't worry. We're going to help other people. And I can't wait. And I always want to, you know, it's part of my life.
I always help and anyways he the way he said it was like so unbelievable. I like was like by and hung up and start like crying. I was like, that was the best conversation I've ever had. I think I probably said, yeah, sure, great. That's amazing. Well, I mean, I, I'm so glad you guys are here. And I just want to start by saying I hate what happened to you guys. Obviously that's a tragedy, but like the way you two have responded.
Maybe I'm just in like my husband, dead era, but like the way you two have come together in this tragedy, the way Spencer has supported you and the way that you guys are a family riding for each other. Like I was talking with a friend about you guys and it's just like, you know, we love reality TV. We watch it. I've come from reality TV. You guys do. But like when it comes to relationships and reality TV, it's oil and vinegar, you know, they don't mix like going on reality TV show is like a fucking nail in a coffin for any relationship. And you guys have
always been the exception. And like the in this the way like no one can deny that like no matter what you guys do in the public eye reality TV like your ability to stay connected like shows that like you guys have always been each other's top priority. I love that about you guys and the way that you guys demonstrate that right like facing this strategy. I really think is incredibly inspirational. That's why I think so many people have rallied around you guys and I just I just fucking love it. I think it's amazing. Thank you.
Oh, I had a speechless. We made Spencer Pratt speechless. I mean, because anytime I think I'm like, fuck, we still don't have our town in the house. So it's like, it's like, like, yeah, it's so poppin', but it's like, it's just the weirdest. Like, like, we were saying yesterday, we were doing like things where I had to like answer questions and I just didn't have an answer. And usually, like, you know, somebody asks you for like beats or like, you're like, oh, what in? And I'm like, like, it's just like, you're like, well, what now? I'm like, oh, fucking no. I just say it's so horrible.
It is interesting though, because we did an interview with ET after and they came up to Santa Barbara and they're like, has this made you closer? And we're both kind of like, no, because we've been through so much. And we always are so close. And we, you know what I mean? So it doesn't.
really make us closer. Like this is just another obstacle that we move through with this foundation that we've had. I think we've faced more opposition and criticism and, you know, negativity than most couples. And so we've had to really navigate through a lot of things. And this is obviously way more devastating and a different level of that. And, but it is interesting what you're, we are saying you would think that something like this, like, Oh, well,
We got to bond together. It's like, frick. This is just what we're seeing. People, you do something. It's like, what does this teach you? Is this, is you've had some sort of epiphany now. Yeah. And like, you guys have a history of being a team, you know, like this, like exactly what you said. I mean, this must be an experience unlike anything you've ever experienced, but like last time the guys are here, your stories that you guys talked about.
back in the day, the shit you face when doing the hills. I just don't think we acknowledge when couples like yourselves demonstrate their ability to fight through difficult times. We love to celebrate breakups and we love to talk about ourselves and all you need is yourself. But you guys, I think I've been incredibly inspirational for couples out there. Thank you. And show why it's so important to have each other's back.
Yeah, it's, I can't imagine how difficult the situation would be if you weren't a team. Like that's what's so scary. Like I know the pandemic and COVID, you heard about so many breakups and stuff because, you know, now it's like you're really tested. So it's scary to think about all the relationships and families that were affected by this that aren't built like Heidi and I that I, you know, hopefully my parents can survive in the apartment together.
Um, so yeah, it's a lot. Did your parents? Oh, my parents. Oh, my God. So they're now very close contact, which, you know, they used to, my dad snores really loud. You know, I don't. Um, yeah.
So, you know, it's just that now it's just a different marriage that even they've not have because they had a house that like can separate each other. And where are you guys staying right now? We're in Santa Barbara. My parents are in Santa Monica. My dad's still Dennis working.
correct me for wrong. So your house had burned down and then you went to your parents house or correct. And then their house, you don't leave their house as well. The fire. So we lived at the top of the palisades where the fire we thought was coming down. We didn't know because we weren't watching the news.
because Heidi wouldn't change the channel because we had a sick kid with 104 degree temperature just locked in the blippy or whatever. And she's like, I'm not turning on the news. I'm like, turn on the news, which if we had turned on the news, we would have known the fire. It was coming up from to Mexico Canyon, like going towards my parents house, but we just thought it was behind our house. So she evacuated with the kids to my parents house to be safe. And then when she got there, like took everything out, my older sister called like, what are you doing there? You're not watching the news. The fire is about to hit.
like mom and dad's house. So yeah, that was, you know, back up there too. Yeah. So she doubled back up solo with sick kids, because I'm trying to tear my dad away from a mountain of fire because he was like in this trance, like I would not leave him like you're going to die. Like he's like, I'm going to stay in and fight the fire. I did it in Malibu in the 70s. I'm like, this is a forest fire. Like you're going to die. And so I'd like,
Took me two hours to get him in a car and I finally like drove him away. And then I watch on our security cameras. He like snuck back. So now I'm like watching my dad with this little garden hose as just a mountain of flames is coming down the street. And I'm like, it's not picking up his phone. So the hardest part about the whole thing was watching and not having my dad pick up his phone. And I was like, my dad's going to die.
And like Heidi's like, you got to leave. You got to leave. And I'm like, I got to go back. So thankfully it took my mind off back. We're losing everything because I was so concerned about my dad dying, which he fully showed up because then he went from my house to his house and wasn't picking up the phone. I kept calling and calling and finally picked up and he sounded at him on speaker. He sounded like he had a brain poisoning or something from the smoke. And he's like,
I'm doing well in here. All the houses around are out of fire, but I'm doing a good job. Mike, you're going to die. He's like, I'll just jump in the pool. I'm like, oh, he is like.
We called 911 to have someone go check on him and they're like, absolutely not. No one is going there. Those roads are inaccessible. Whatever he is doing is taking his own life at risk. We are not sending anyone to go check on him. He said, like finally, like I, I probably call realistically 700 times, like just like that for two hours. Finally,
He's like, yeah, I got to go. And he's like, I'm going to get out of here. And he did say as he was driving cars, we're just blowing up next to him. Trash cans were just on fire blowing and hitting the car. And so he admits that he's very lucky. And, you know, he went to the hospital with like smoke, inhalation, poisoning, whatever. And he's he can barely talk now. So.
That was like good and bad because it really took my mind off of like watching our own house burning down on the security camera. So I was like, at least my dad got out of there. And then I was just like, so mad for so long. Like, why would he have added? I didn't need this extra. But he clearly, you know, once our house burned down, he was like, I can't lose two. You know, the family needs one house. So I get it. But this was not a normal situation. That's crazy. Oh, it's.
I mean, it's beyond crazy because it's also, like I always say, like I've been born and raised in the palisades. Every single one of my friends and their parents, everyone's house burned down. So it's not like, oh, my, our house and my, like, my group chats. Like every, every, our whole world. So I just keep saying to Heidi when I'm like, I just feel like we got Jack, like our lives were just stolen from us. Like,
Everything I've ever known and the hardest part is like we have our iPhones like we take a lot of photos a lot of snapchat so I have a bunch of content but my entire pre-iPhone life was at my parents house curated in my time capsule room all my drawers every trophy everything like stuff I want to show my parents my kids like my grandpa stuff his newspaper clippings my dad's everything.
just being gone. That hurts the most because my parents didn't get one thing out. Zero. Not even like a bag with clothes. That's heartbreaking. It's insane. But he's a global pop star. So, you know, like, you know, what are these? How are your boys? Thankfully, Gutter has this new friend at school that's very sweet, that loves dinosaurs and
This little angel is, you know, they're having a play date today. That's why we're able to come here and they're going to do crystals and minerals. So thank God there is this one just just like him. It's so sweet and the school we already got him in had, you know, counselors and.
principal and they were all really like aware of his situation. So he transitioned really well. It was horrific the other day, just randomly he had a stick and he was just drawing in the sand like his house and like his town. And he's like, say something like, what am I going to say? How do you like it's just like, I don't want to start crying in front of like, I not grown up enough to like do something. Sometimes you don't need to say anything to like.
You just need to hold him and validate his feelings, you know, and so we're definitely, you know, dealing with that. So.
He missed a lot of the trauma. Thankfully, he was really sick and we had him home from school and the school had to evacuate. And I heard that was really traumatic for a lot of kids because parents were screaming and having to get their kids and like, let's go. And it was like really hectic. So at least he missed that, but he misses his life and his school and his friends.
You know, he loved to go. We had the hiking trail and I always made a big deal and he would catch the lizards every day, right? Like that was our thing. And I always am very big on taking my boys outside. Um, so we had like this private hiking trail that I think he misses the most. And he's worried about all of his animal friends and we saw this coyote that we saw every day. I know it's dangerous, but we love this coyote. We didn't feed it. Yeah. Fans are wanted to. I was like, aren't there rabbit? They won't bite. Like, what are you? You can smell my heart.
Um, yeah. So it's, it's interesting with kids because you don't want to like project your feelings on them, but you want like to allow him space to have his and kind of when it's time. And I encourage him to talk to like a new babysitter about it and like, oh yeah, well, how does that make you feel or, you know, just people he can.
casually bring it up to, you know, and talk about it. But it's definitely really difficult. And he's doing a good job transitioning and stuff. But it's a lot for everybody. I'm sure it's hard for him to grasp of just the like, they're, you know,
that there's just like his room's gone, all of his toys. You know, I just like can't imagine what's going through his head. Yeah. How old is he? Seven. Seven. Yeah. And it must be, you know, just even coming in and, you know, obviously having fun and like the excitement about your song and your music and these stories about talking to Pitbull, like,
And then reflecting on the tragedy that happened, is it just like an emotional fucking roller coaster of just insane highs and then insane lows? I mean, how are you guys managing that emotional roller coaster?
Well, I've learned what crashing out means, you know, I always saw it a lot on TikTok. So I've been crashing out daily. Um, also spiraling. I've been spiraling also. So I just feel like it's waves, like you'll get three emails that'll make you just so like, this is our life is so good. And then I'm in a group chat with all my neighbors and they're like,
like literally yelling at me. You haven't filled out the debris thing. I'm like, I'm trying to make money to buy a house. Like, I don't care about debris. And they're like, well, we can't clear the debris unless all the things like you can't in comprehend how many neighbors are on these chats. And I'm like a bad guy because I haven't submitted all these forms and codes and this. I'm like, why do I need debris move? Well, I have money to build on that. But so it's just this like, oh, that's so exciting. And then
Reality. Rock bottom, just gutter energy. And we have dealt with it differently together, but differently. So Spencer's been on such a high and high energy and trying to rally everyone. He did such an incredible job. And I think that was really therapeutic for him to be able to be proactive and provide. And I hunkered in a little bit more and was trying to do my part too, but focusing on
the kids and the house and getting them in school and like trying to convince Spencer to sleep so I haven't been on as high of the highs as Spencer you know I'm just more of like okay it's exciting and great and like when things translate into money I can be more excited but like not I haven't
You know what I mean? So like, yeah, and I get sad and then I'll like pray about it and like let myself go through the emotions I think a little more from the beginning than Spencer did. So I think for me, I'm actually like able to slowly move forward where I feel like for Spencer now you're feeling it a little more like emotionally than in the beginning, you know, because it's like when you're blocking out and you're working and you're like digging yourself into work, it's like,
A distraction now. It's like, uh, it just like. I definitely relate to that. We not to make it about us, but like we recently now experience a miscarriage. Oh, sorry.
Um, and like obviously very emotional for both of us, but she like I've been very disconnected and again, trying to just work and like we talked about it in an episode yesterday and like I don't like even like there have been moments where I just feel like it's like hitting me, you know, like talking about it where I feel like she's processed it on a more like steady path, you know, where it's just like I've avoided it. I avoid it and I got a message being like, thanks for sharing and it's just like.
like fuck it gets to you. So I get what you're saying. Yeah. I'm so sorry. Yeah. Yeah. But anyways, about you guys. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Man, that's a lot. You mentioned people was a wild conversation. You're going to play it. No, I just got to check and see if I got the new. Um,
Yeah, the hard thing with tragedy and being in the spotlight is, for me, the reason I've always been open and wanted to share it is because you're going through that pain. And there's no right or wrong way to cope with it, but maybe to be able to help someone else not feel so alone in that situation.
And like you guys have each other and we have each other, but some people don't. Yeah. And so to like be able to, sometimes it just helps to hear someone else's story. Be that person for them. Right. Yeah. So it, it's so hard to do. And I feel like it's really important work if you're willing and like wanting and able to share that because you never know whose life you're really touching. Yeah. So.
for you guys anyways. And I can't imagine how hard to share, but you never know who it was very therapeutic to talk about with each other. And like, yes, it's just having each other makes it all the difference in the world. Yeah. You know, that's what I always liked about reality TV. And even like yesterday when we were filming something, I just always felt like it was kind of therapeutic because maybe you're not going to like sit down and have these moments with no phones, with no anything and just like sit there and look at someone and be like,
Okay. And same with like a podcast, it forces kind of these conversations that maybe you're not even realizing each other's feeling, you know, like, how I've been feeling. And I haven't been able to really tell Spencer. It's like, it is so sad and devastating, but like my home is Spencer. And like, that's where I feel like happy and comfortable and confident and like,
So wherever Spencer is, that's where I feel like safe and happy. And I was able to like sit down and articulate that to him. And I was like, okay, yeah, it's so sad. But I love our home also so much because that's like where we live and love and raise our family and obviously all the things in and we work so hard. But like my home is Spencer, you know, like that's how I feel.
So I feel too. Same home. Same home.
But the music's been awesome. Yeah. And you know, I'm starting to finally like actually be more excited about it too, because I just had so much going on and you just, you know, things, the audience is so fickle. And so it just feels like, okay, great. Everyone's excited then next week. You never know how it's going to feel, but it does seem more permanent, which does that make sense or like more?
I mean, you're a top 53 billboard debut as you're in the history. Yes. Yeah. It's like, I mean, it doesn't matter what the audience says in the month, the year you're done. Yeah. You did it. It's permanent. You did it. You did it.
I don't understand a lick about the music industry. Other than the fact that I think it comes with a lot of judgment and almost elitism and you have to have certain access and you have to know certain people and if you don't, there's just so many talented musicians period that you just never hear of who never make it and it just feels like this terrible tragedy allowed you guys to work through all that nasty bullshit where people have been like,
like this is a fucking song. The remixes people are doing it with, like people making videos and dancing with it. It's like, it's not hard to enjoy this song. It's been around for a while that people just decided to like stick their nose up at because it was like, Oh, it's not even there from the hell or whatever. You know what I'm saying? Not the gays shot out the gays. They've been here 15 years riding for us. So yeah. So yeah, I mean, the whole the whole community.
Yeah, but now we're worldwide. No, no, I'm just saying, but let's get a shout out. So yeah, 15 number one's international here, but the hardest part in the music industry, which now thank you, God, is play listing. Like when we were looking into like trying to get Heidi's music back in the game, you got to pay.
20,000 a month to get these play-listing people and maybe, you know, like, no, that ain't having, but now she's on every major Pandora, Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon, like the hardest. And she's the cover photo, which that's Taylor Swift. That's really good. Like, there's no other, and that was Heidi. So once I feel like, and she has, I try to keep telling her this, but she's like, whatever. I'm like,
It doesn't matter. Like you're locked in. The people sending me records now are the only people to get these records are Taylor Swift. Like the biggest people industry are not only waving their fee and saying we want to work with you, but they're not getting behind you. So we've got great music. Imagine if the music gets better because they're here for it. They want to support. So I have so much faith in the group project, which is, you know, the community pushing Heidi on the entire planet Earth. So make sure to get the group project merch on pratite.com.
They're going to say make sure it's stream superficial. Buy it on iTunes. We'll have all of this in the show now. We'll get put in a few notes, a couple of few show notes. And then so yeah, another amazing thing that angel in the music business that right away after the house burn now reached out and came over this crazy cloud. And I'm just kidding. Is Avril Lavigne? Oh, wow.
So the night of pretty much, she was like, anything you need, clothes, wine. And I wrote to her jokingly, like, how about a record? And she's like, I'll come over with wine. And I was like, that's fine. I'm like, we live really far away. And I was like, I'll drive. I was like, OK, so Avril Lavigne came over and drank wine with us.
brought me three purses design. Nice bag. So sunglasses. She's been just the biggest teammate ever. That's awesome. And, you know, if you told me three weeks ago, like, Avril Lavigne will be one of our best friends. Oh, my God.
So now she is. Did you see all of the safe from Spencer Pratt comments on everyone's? You know, that was more directed at people in my immediate life because, you know, I'm a team player for my whole friend world and all these people, they're real estate, they're what are their flower shops. I'm always hosting for people and doing this. So when everything was happening and all these
Respectfully, civilian randos are posting Heidi's music and people I've grown up with and know and close friends can't just like throw it in the IG story. Like, I don't need a real, I don't need a TikTok, but like, you can't throw Heidi's song in an IG story. I took that so personally, I know some people in the comments that you're like, you can't expect things that people are like, no, you can, actually, if you've put
your energy and life is supporting to somebody you would expect it to be reciprocal. So those are troll demons that write that. But so initially it was non and then it graduated past like mine because I was going through my contact list. I was in
I was like really checking. And then people that likes podcasts I've been on or people that are using my content on their YouTube channel and are monetizing it and still can't after mobile detects. Now I'm like, oh, so now I don't need like name names and is what it is. Cause she God willing will be one of the greatest.
pop superstars in the world. And I'm going to remember all these people and they're not going to be allowed to come to Don Antonio's and have skinny margarita night with us. And so it was just the easiest thing to do that would make such a difference.
I posted a story before it was like even a thing. And then I did a reel. It took me a few days. I did a TikTok. People are still catching up like J-Lo wasn't on my list. And then J-Lo did it. Did you see J-Lo? And she follow Heidi back. And they hope you recognize she wore a spider dress to go with it. I'm like,
I didn't catch it behind you, dude. Do J-Lo don't do my time for nothing. I literally was like, she's wearing a spiderweb dress. I was like, I'm totally making this connection myself, because it's personal. But then when he said that, I was like.
Yeah. And then of like all the mega stars that like just yesterday, David Foster, who I did the Princess of Malibu with, who I know is his original Simon Calle. He's the biggest hater on the planet, but he was the first person to put Heidi in the recording studio, test all her keys and everything. And he would have said, like, get the F out of here. And he's like, oh, you got tone. We can do this. And he got her her first
record deal option with Warner Brothers back in the day when I'm not doing it because they want a 360 deal. But for him to do a post yesterday listening to the music and doing his his finger thing and I've seen him do the finger thing in the studio with Michael Buble and Celine Dion like if you get the Dave Foster finger like
Oh, that's the exercise because I keep seeing science from God like to keep me from going nuts, you know, so they're very helpful. That was a big one yesterday. I was like, oh, wow. Fos man. Not to put anyone on the spot, but is there someone that hasn't like posted something that you're like, that would be so cool.
I reached out to Britney Spears. Okay. And I did. I did reach out to Britney Spears. That's your point. I mean, if she knows like making sure she has the right outfit on. Yeah. I was like, and you did. She dances a lot. Like it's like, just mix it into the play list here, you know, and it says all be your. Yeah. Yeah. And it's all be your blonde tonight. And she has blonde hair a lot of the time. So that one, I was like, Oh, okay. So not Brit yet. Who else?
I've DMed a lot of people obviously emailed Taylor Swift right away. Okay. That was night one. How did you get her email? Well, I mean, it's this is the email. You have the email. This is this one is getting read. So it's not getting it. It's getting read. If you don't get a response, that's also a response.
You know, she could have something in the works for, you know, like, like, I think she's just like going to have Heidi be involved with, like, the rep announcement somehow, you know, like, we could have like, we'll have an Easter egg for everybody or something. So I'm still haven't given up hope on that one, but that was a big one night one.
I was like, our house just burned down Taylor. I need you. You have no reason not to dream as big as possible. So I keep telling you, like I'm at zero and I had a hustle when I had things. And I was still like an insane hustler. And I had like my, my jeans and, you know, all my, I keep saying all my charging cables, rebying charging cables is torture.
And so expensive. Oh, the fact that you if any I had to go the Apple store this weekend in my house didn't burn down.
I did get an apple. They're like, here's an apple. Like I was like, thank you. 15% off. I was like, I already bought them. Like I need a hustle. I can't have a dead bone. Yeah. I think that's the misconception. What so many people think it's like we have been in this industry, you know, feast or famine for years. And it's mostly been famine, you know, and we like make that last in between and we hustle really hard. And I have like,
the Chanel bag from 15 years ago or whatever that I couldn't buy now or whatever like my one pair of golden goose shoes that I bought four years ago or you know it's like they were like the only pair of shoes I grabbed. But yeah it's just so many of the things we at this moment can't replace and work so hard to have like the nice knives that we got like once a year or like these little things. We just paid them sharpened.
I do like our night collection, I just paid to have each one sharpened. I was digging in the rubble yesterday, just looking for like one knife. I was like, could one knife have survived? It's like, they go through the hot fire. It was like, no.
It's awesome. For anyone in the Palisades and you see my content, do not do what I have been doing. Don't go into your rubble in shorts. Do not not wear a mask. Really stupid. So like, don't do what I've been to wear the white outfit. You see that looks ridiculous. A lot of toxic.
where my legs have been burning for days now. He said to Spencer yesterday, I'm like, don't go down there or like, and he's like, oh no, the firemen are down here without masks or whatever. But you don't think of it at first. No, I said it. It literally said it. I was like, don't just don't do that. I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, all right. Well, I was not planning on like doing anything where, and then I like stepped on one thing and we're like, and like all of it is, I was like,
Oh, no, I got of a horror movie. So it's weird going back though. What I didn't anticipate was not wanting to leave. It's like a weird. Yeah, it's like a weird still see your life there. Yeah, it's all an ash. Yeah, it's weird because it still like feels like home, but it's not. So you like don't want to leave, you know?
That's why I spent like four hours digging up shattered crystals. Yeah, I see why. No girl here. I see why I see how, you know, because I was like, man, how are you there? Like it's so devastating, but you're like, okay, can I like put a tent up there? You know, you just kind of like it's this weird calling still to you. It's like a part of your soul. Yeah.
I mean, we lived like during the hills directly across from the house that burned down our house that we lived on in during all the hills was across the street from the house we ended up at that we so we technically have two houses of all of our memories that burned down. So when people that were living in the Hollywood Hills and that little Christian apartment.
Like we lived in the palisades and we commute to Hollywood every day because the palisades has been such part of my life and became Heidi's life. So you walk out of our burnt house and you look at our burn house in front of it. It's like two different of our eras, as Taylor would say, this is gone.
Hey, Taylor. Taylor. I can email back. I lost all the gifts you sent me. And you guys are fighting back or is that right? You know, this is like my favorite thing. I don't want to get into it, but.
the day this all went down, I'm already getting legal stuff involved. So now with a new president, now it's like propaganda and it's not political. I don't care who's in the office, what party? I'm going to sue whoever is responsible for us not having our house in life. So that was the one thing that has been getting a little annoying on social people, like attaching this to like- I mean, everything is false.
Yeah, but it's like, no, it's not. We just don't have a house and we want accountability and we want the truth to see if people made mistakes. I mean, it's a thing. It's like, you know, your boy Brody was here and we were talking about it. And it's just like, yes, this is a terrible tragedy. Sadly, fires happen every year in California. And yeah, we understand that those wins that night were terrible.
But it was always going to be bad, but the question is that it need to be as horrific as it was. And there seems to be several examples when you hear stories that maybe it didn't need to be this fucking bad. We all pay taxes. We know what that check looks like. Where's that fucking money going? Why don't we have a fleet of scooper scoopers? We have this shit every year. What the fuck? They don't get me pumped up.
So, what's so weird about life is back to my shopping for that wedding for the Hugo Boss stuff. I was a groomsman in the wedding like a week before, and my best friend growing up, who in college long so short, like I saved his life and his dad.
treats me like a son and he's like the smartest lawyer in the world and he just beat Edison for 400 houses in the woosley case and I'm talking to him about how Edison had 20 lawyers against him and his small firm, it's just him and whatever, blah, blah. And he put up all his own money for everyone. It was like six million and he risked it. If they blah, blah, blah. And I jokingly say to Heidi, man, how cool would it be to have Peter McNulty be your lawyer?
So a week and a half later, our house burned down. And now we're the lead plaintiffs for Peter McNulty is our lawyer because not only that, our next or neighbor is who my friend married the daughter. So he's, it's not just about me. It's like his son's wife's family house burned down next door to us. Like I was on the hill watching the fire come down with her dad till the last minute. So when people were like, Oh, so money, like this is not a, like a money. This is like,
These people are emotionally invested in this outcome. Is the goal to try to build back if that's possible? Do we know if it's possible yet or what's the plan there? If you get on this group chat that's yelling at me about debris removal, they're ready to start building. I'm holding back the whole block right now.
I think everyone is extremely motivated to rebuild the policies as quickly as possible. Every friend I know has lost their house. Everybody is desperate for that community. And, you know, it really is. And what Spencer continues to say is like his parents, all these people,
They bought their house 50 years ago, 30 years ago. So the prices just recently increased to be millions of dollars, but they were like, you know, which was still expensive, like 200,000, 300,000. And most of these people can't rebuild. So not only is a settlement for, you know, it's for the town and it's for people who can't rebuild and can't afford it. At this point, we can't afford to rebuild our house. You know, so we also need to, and that's why we're hustling so hard. It's like,
All right, we'll get the debris removed and then see how hard we can hustle and how much of the house we can rebuild and, you know, how, how are we going to do that? How is everyone in this town going to do that? Well, Heidi's going on tour internationally. I suspect he's saying like 14 countries that want to see you because that your number one there has Andy Cohen apologized to you.
Um, no, I think he did a dismissal of an apology a few years ago. And then he reset it, something else horrific again recently. And I was just like, I've never met you. I don't even know you. I don't talk about you. Yeah, probably don't know. Like he called you trash or something. Yeah. And then he also said, you could say to a woman, right? But you know what? I've seen a few things he's said about other women. And I'm kind of like,
Who is talking to people like that? How is this allowed publicly and acceptable? He was almost gone, so we'll see.
I've always loved Annie. I got to meet him a few times. Like, I've always very much respected what he does. But I was, you know, I was sure he's real nice to you. I hope that he writes this wrong. I don't know. I'm not holding my breath. It doesn't matter. It's just like these other people that didn't shout out. Yeah, we got a J-Lo, you know, we're going to the whole new level.
I mean, I'm trying to get the new about to give you the premiere of the pit boy right here. So is his pit bull make up. So it's done. What is he doing? So they have a remix coming out. Okay. And I'm waiting for the final master to upload so that it can start streaming. And I'm texting every second like Hurry up because the guy that's mixing it a 17 grammy. So he isn't in there.
Speed, I am obviously he's operating on this. It's like he doesn't even I keep calling like hello again to his voicemail. He's not big enough. But yeah, so that's God willing going to go number one globally because people has 57 million monthly listeners. So like this whole thing about.
And he's going to drop it on his. It's just going to do like a primary artist collab. So it comes through both of the slides. Is this what you were talking about recently where you were like a huge? No, that's even some different. That's even that's not bigger, not bigger, but it's different because those are us a different kind of music. And for them to send a record, that's actually as big or not bigger because Pitbull is just like global superstar. Now he's on a high record worldwide.
There you go. And so he's on a record with like the one that was sent who sent that and like, like, that's just, no, people be like, no, that didn't happen. But I can't say they literally told me we'll take it away if you said. Oh my God. Okay. I know it's so hard for a Spencer dealing with all these superstars. And they're like, you, but you can't talk about it. He's like, uh, cause he's so used to like wanting to talk about everything and like, it's some kind of things that I'm two different things right now that I'm having to keep a secret that are just like,
Well, people was one of them. Yeah, but then his manager texted me and was like, yeah, you do whatever you want. You're killing the whole game to listen to these labels. Like, he's like, you run on the show. I'm like, so right then I'm at the coffee shop. Pitbull teas. You got something for us? I mean, any second, any second. I'm going to let me call him. How is parent life for you guys?
Awesome. It's the best. She turns one on Sunday. Oh my gosh. She took her first steps a couple of days ago. That's so big. She's starting to walk. Who did she walk to? How did that happen? She walked to me. My mom was like, thank God recording. So we got it on video. Oh my gosh. She's pretty obsessed with that. She likes me. Fine. We're definitely connecting more and more. Like every time I come home.
Yeah, it's a favorite song. Yeah, it's the best. But she is truly obsessed with Natalie in the best possible way. She lights up.
But it's definitely called baby steps for reason because they are very like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's that time where you're like, the table, you know, I'm like, I'm not getting rid of all the furniture because the baby's learning to walk, right? We can't do that. Yeah. Do you have, um, individual, like, have you fantasized about like places you would want to perform live?
Well, I was offered Madison Square Garden with somebody and I was like, okay, I think I'll do that one. Yeah, so I was like, that was definitely a dream to do that. Is that anytime soon? Like when should we book? I should look at it's someone who's going on tour and it's one of their tour dates and the person was like, you can take any date that you want. Let us know. Okay. Okay. But I was like, oh, I need to start like practicing.
Like that's a lot to rehearse. When was the last time you sang live?
I did it with Mal forever, like Mike's on with the track a few weeks ago or whatever, like a few months ago, I guess. You got it. You got it. We're ready to go. Do it. Yeah. How close I put it on top. Like, yeah. Let's say, how do you want to let's have the star? She needs practice. Can we announce this? Okay. Hi, this is Heidi Montag and you are listening to my new exclusive track with Pitbull. I'll do it.
Oh, what?
Oh, those parts great.
Oh my God. It's so good. So good. So yes, I had to go in the studio and do the ad libs. It's so good. So he's really into charity. And he was like, you know, I don't publicly do a lot of things, but I always make sure to, you know, privately, he's like very immersed and, um, you know, a lot of things. So, and he's very inspiring. He's a very inspiring human being.
That is crazy. You told me how to text people for approval and stuff. That's why I keep saying Heidi. If there isn't a light at the end of the tunnel, if these aren't signs, we went into a new dimension. It's a very weird upside down world like that Netflix show. But there's so much insane positivity that there has to be
Something so good coming up that we will have the power to help all of our friends and family have a bigger platform Because that's what just keeps me going. There's no way these things aren't happening Like somebody that told me they were like in a coma. This was like a week ago They called me another number like I was in a coma and when I came out of coma I thought like I'm misquoting them obviously like why did God do this and their quote or whoever they were like
God didn't bring you this far to bring you this far. I was like, okay. Let's go. So that's where I'm just like, we just went, you know, we've been obviously we've been unfamous for a long time, but we were peak famous. The energy that's connected to this is so powerful and loving that it's like,
feels like anything is possible. So it's just like a different frequency, you know, like a vibration. Like we were famous in like a low vibration before, whereas like now people are like asking for hugs and like crying on me. Like I'm like, it's crazy. Are you a hugger? I have now. No, no, no, it's not a kisser hugger. Now I'm hugging strangers. I don't even care. Contact her, but tight is. I'm all in now. I don't ever go camping.
I mean, it's pristine. I mean, been life changing. That's what I mean. So it's like, again, you know, it's a hard thing mentally because you're like, would I trade just to have my lazy boy back and sitting and watching my hummingbirds? Or, but then I'm like, obviously there's something so much greater. This is the, you know, some else, you know, and a lot of like crystal energy people. I love deep diving them on TikTok.
They said since we had like 2,000 crystals in this house and 3,000 pound ones that like when all the crystals exploded and shattered like all the like love and energy we put into the house with them with the magical hummingbirds like just made like a portal that we went through. I mean, you can you can get deep dye. I'm like, yes. Yeah, in that portal. So I think Heidi is a radio to her pop star stuff.
That's so exciting. That's done. Yeah, that's been a hectic two weeks. Let me tell you, because dealing with this superstar, too, it's a lot more than just me. He's like, I want to ad lib here. So we had to go to the recording studio. Yes, they're driving it in like ad to ad libs. People wanted in the remix on those.
Like, yeah, and I haven't done those ad-libs in so many years. I was actually really nervous about doing them. I was like, what if I'm not as good as I was then? And like, you know, and so then like, yeah, I know. And I was like, I did. And that was really happy. So I was just like, that text just took like the pressure of my life off.
But it is crazy. I'm sure like, eventually you'll be giving this same chance to someone in the future, you know, like you'll be the crazy big pop star superstar that they're having to deal with, you know, like they're waiting on your time. I hope God. Yeah, but it does show you how like when people react towards you, what's so helpful.
to be able to give something like that back. Like you're saying, you know, so it and we have always been really big on like helping anyone around us in any capacity. Like we like Spencer said, flower like our friends, anything, you know, and so it's really been different to like receive that because I feel like for Spencer and I both we kind of have a hard time receiving. We're both like such take this and take that. And what can we do for you? So it's been really crazy to like learn to just like accept
help and accept things. It's a weird thing. It sounds like in life, you know, but it is like, okay. All right. The coolest part about this whole experience in the last week is so like last time we guys talked to you, we were talking about Heidi was being in China and the music was blowing up. So that's why we started working on new songs. So the best part about all this is all the new songs that just came out on superficial to Heidi Wood are all the new youngest hottest writer, producers, talented people that took a risk
by giving us their best record when Heidi wasn't a global pop superstar. And now they're getting so much attention and getting playlists that they would never be on. I mean, not right now, maybe in a couple of years, but they're all like 23, 23. We obviously, we could only get the young up and coming top people, but they're getting