Dixon & Vining Hour 1 (013025)
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January 30, 2025
TLDR: DC plane/helicopter crash, press conference provided.

In this engaging podcast episode, the hosts Dixon and Vining discuss significant current events, including a tragic plane and helicopter crash in Washington D.C., weather updates, and lighthearted moments filled with humor. Here’s a concise summary of the key topics covered in the episode:
Major Incident: Plane and Helicopter Collision
Overview of the Crash
- A military helicopter collided with a commuter plane over the Potomac River near Ronald Reagan National Airport around 8 PM.
- The commuter plane had 64 people on board (60 passengers, 4 crew members), while three service members were aboard the helicopter.
- Both aircraft reportedly fell from about 350 feet, leading to a devastating impact, which the host described as preventable.
Key Points from the Discussion
- Communication Failure: There were indications of miscommunication between air traffic controllers and the helicopter. The tower's attempt to warn the helicopter about the incoming plane might not have been acknowledged.
- Fatalities Expected: As of the latest updates, rescue operations shifted to recovery, with 30 bodies already recovered from the crash site. The hosts reflected on the tragic loss of life, including U.S. figure skaters returning from training.
- Investigative Insights: The incident raised concerns about whether the helicopter had proper flight plans. The recent change in the flight path for the commuter plane may have contributed to the crash.
Weather Update
- The weather forecast for January 30th was relatively pleasant despite some moisture on the roadways. The hosts humorously remarked on the unpredictable nature of winter in Alabama and provided listeners with the expected weather for the upcoming weekend.
Lighthearted Banter
- The hosts kept the mood light with jokes about winter attire, describing the ridiculousness of wearing socks with sandals, and shared personal anecdotes about food expiration mishaps.
- The discussion touched on common experiences related to food freshness and the humorous dilemmas surrounding keeping track of expiration dates.
Additional Topics of Discussion
- The episode also featured insights into an ongoing investigation into the crash, emphasizing how it was one of the first fatal aviation incidents in the U.S. since 2009.
- The hosts contemplated the implications of an increasing reliance on technology in aviation and air traffic control challenges amid staffing concerns, which could affect future air safety.
Conclusion
- While the podcast started with a heavy topic, the blend of humor, weather updates, and the hosts’ camaraderie made it enjoyable. Throughout the episode, significant reflections on safety protocols in aviation were evident, leaving listeners with valuable insights into the importance of communication and preparedness in such tragic circumstances.
This episode serves as a reminder of the seriousness surrounding aviation safety while balancing it with lighthearted everyday discussions, creating an engaging listening experience.
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I don't know moisture on the roadway, said to say we must have gotten a little something overnight. Today, cloudy and 70 degrees. We may reach 70 degrees today. Tonight, rain moves in and tomorrow morning will be wet. 90% chance of showers. High tomorrow is 67. Saturday, partly cloudy, 66. And Sunday should be gorgeous. A high of 70, 74 on Monday, Richard Dixon, 74.
On Monday morning, it's like, wow, this is nice. Are we getting into spring? Oh, that's right. We're barely gotten to February. We are actually just about to launch. Pardon me into February. Sunday is Groundhog Day. So be prepared for it, man. Yeah, I think there's nothing I would like more than for a winner to be over. I intellectually know that that is most likely not the case.
Yes. I'm aware of how things work and this is just Mother Nature fooling you. This is like the ultimate gotcha. It's like, hey, why don't you go ahead and put those sweaters up and grab yourself the swimsuit. I think you can break out your socks. It's your sandals rather. It's good. This is what you're really looking at. I got you. 30 degrees, 28 degrees.
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horrible situation unfolding in the washington d c area about three hundred and uh... fifty feet over the patomic uh... late last night well it wasn't that late it was about eight o'clock it was eight o'clock our time i'm not a doctor uh... a uh... a helicopter a military helicopter
ran smack in to a commuter plane, which is actually 64 people on board, 60 passengers, four crew members. So not a small plane, 64 people on board. Because they said, I believe that flight holds 70. So it wasn't full, but that's just unbelievably
And yeah, they both, of course, came tumbling out of the sky. Three crew members aboard. I say three crew members. Three service members aboard the helicopter. The helicopter was on a training mission. I don't know what they were training for that time of night over Ronald Reagan National Airport.
So that seems strange to me. And the fact that a helicopter is able to move up, down, back, forth, side to side, I mean, it has more than 360 degrees of movement. So for it to be on the same plane at the same time,
You know, this is Newton's second law. Two objects may not occupy the same space at the same time. Yeah, this is like an 18-wheeler in a vehicle. The 18-wheeler cannot get out of your way. You have to get out of the way of the 18-wheeler. And that was kind of this situation. One other piece of information that's kind of come out of this, and we're going to learn more. The sun comes up today. I think now that they have rescued 30-something bodies from the water, and they've got more, the search and rescue will continue.
through today. Apparently, a few minutes before this flight, it was 5342 landing. Air traffic controllers asked that commercial jet if they could land on a shorter runway. It was number 33 at Reagan National. And the pilots confirmed that they were able to do so. So they cleared the plane to land on that runway. And apparently, I guess the helicopter thought they were like the previous planes were landing on the longer runway.
Well, you know, what happened with the communication because they were communicated to from the tower, the helicopter. Hey, this is what you need to do. You need to be around the back of it. It's coming in here. This is where it's going to land. Get around the back of it and why how this happened. It just
was preventable. And I don't know quite what was going on in the military helicopter, but it sounds as if they're the ones at fault. That's yet to be seen. We'll let the investigators go in there and try to figure this out. Definitely a preventable disaster. This is going to be one of the more preventable ones in aviation history.
I believe. And right now, no survivors. We have not. We have no and there are folks out there like, well, there might be. The water was freezing. If you've seen some of the wreckage that's already been pulled, it exploded at 400 feet in the air. Both of the aircraft exploded. And that really sad thing is, yes, you have all these lives that have been lost.
There were some skaters, U.S. figure skaters and Russian skaters that apparently were in training out in Kansas and were coming back into D.C. They were on this flight and family members of these skaters. So far what we see, it seems that this was very preventable. And again, as they investigate it, we'll get some more.
Well, of course, the first thing that's happening is you have people on the left who are pointing fingers at the Trump administration. He fired a bunch of FAA people. Really? So let me get this straight. You're under the impression that somehow Donald Trump in 11 days in office destroyed the FAA. Is that what you really think happened here? That somehow he
He made mince meat of the of Ronald Reagan national airport and the staff there. Is that what you believe? Oh, you know, that they can turn right around a point of finger and said, Dei, you hired people that aren't quite qualified to be in that tower. You know, that's, I mean, this is so, this is right. This is so petty. This is not the time for this pointing fingers and we're not even 12 hours into a horrible crash. And you try to blame the Trump administration. How dare you?
We'll be getting an update on this at some point this morning. We'll try to give, you know, cover the initial announcement and then break away as the questions come up by. There's one thing that wears me out when it comes to these briefings on these disasters. And that is, it's a little bit like being in a meeting. We've all been in meetings where they open the floor up for questions and half the questions are, I want you to see how smart I am by asking this question. And I'm like, oh, just, just,
Put it down. We're done. The meeting's over. Let's go. You know, once you have all the information out of the briefing, write it down, go do your story and move on. Don't try to preen, show everybody, you know, your job is to report not to make a spectacle of yourself.
That inevitably happens at these things. So we'll cover at least the initial statement that comes out as we get details on what happened as much as we can. It appears as though we've got a pretty good handle on this, which is a helicopter ran into a plane. No good reason for it.
They shouldn't have been at the same height for the love of God. No good reason for that. And again, I don't know if it was this change of runway and that the plane, you know, here as they were coming in that they decided to change it, if that had something to do with it. But again, the tower apparently communicated this to the helicopter or attempted to communicate that to them. And, you know, don't know what happened. Don't know.
Thirty-five stories above the Potomac is where this took place, which is why they are now fishing bodies out in a very, very sad situation. Thirty, thus far, is the body count. So there's that piece of bad news that we've got. We've got good news.
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Right. Plenty of fiber involved. Speaking of which, you know, I was bragging the other day about my fair life milk and how much I love it and how it doesn't go bad. I bought some, I think two weeks ago, Saturday. So in two days, it'll be two weeks since I bought this stuff.
The date on the top of it was like April 4th, okay? I didn't open it for the longest time. I bought it for something in particular and then I didn't do that thing that I bought it for, okay? So a week later I opened it up and I added a little bit to my eggs when I made my breakfast quesadilla last Saturday morning, okay?
So I put it back in the fridge and this morning I opened it up and I pour some into a separate container to bring to work because I'm gonna put it on my protein cereal for breakfast. I love the boiled eggs, but they get a little old, so I figured out a little protein cereal this morning would be good. I opened it up this morning, opened up that separate container this morning, smell almost knocked me over. I was like, how is the freshness date on this April 4th and it's gone bad? I haven't even owned it two weeks. You opened it.
Yes, that's exactly right. I opened it and didn't look at it for a week. You know, apparently it would stay good until they perform. If you kept it close and then you'd have to guzzle the entire half gallon all at once, just like, chug it. I've had that happen, you know, when you buy the small little tubs of either blue, you know, some kind of crumbled cheese, like blue cheese or, you know, whatever it is that you like.
And it says on there, the date's like months, it's like five months later. But when I open it, even though I don't even pull off the plastic lid part before you put the real lid on it, it doesn't last but a couple of weeks and then it goes bad. And I'm like, I've said the same thing, I'm like,
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Let's update you on a backup on 65 that we reported just about the time that we came on the air yesterday morning. 65 South at Kalira was shut down just after 6 a.m. Traffic was being diverted off the interstate. We also mentioned that a fatality had been reported and later in the day, this was once we were off the air, more information came out about the incident. Here's what we learned. A man died when he intentionally stepped in front of a semi-truck.
Chilton County Corner's office said that the victim was a 21-year-old male. He died on the scene. His death has been ruled a suicide. Wow. I mean, this is awful. I mean, first of all, obviously, because this man is dead, but you think about the trucker that hit him. I mean, this guy's just, you know, boogying on down 65 and doing his daily deal. And some guy steps out in front of the truck. Yeah. Yeah. You have to live without your life. And this guy,
You know, 21 years old, not to live for, you know, kids, stay off the drugs. I got to assume there was something involved going on there. You hate to hear about it. And also, by the way, destroyed a lot of people's commutes. So, you know, if your absolute intention is to offer yourself, I'm sure there are ways that don't affect other people.
Yeah, because anytime you have a death like that, they're going to shut down the interstate. They've got a, there's so much to process. And it's ours. It's literally ours where people can't get through there. As we saw yesterday.
The Office of Communications in DC put out an email yesterday because there was all kinds of confusion going on saying that some news outlets like CNN, Axios, The Washington Post, New York Times, and others claimed that President Trump's directive to temporarily pause certain federal spending was rescinded. Now, here's what really happened.
They said from the White House, no such thing took place. What did happen was a memo from the Office of Management and budget that was rescinded in an effort to alleviate some confusion. And press secretary Caroline Levitt confirmed Trump's order remains in full force and
effect. Everybody's like, oh, we rescinded what he said. We can go back to what we're doing and those grants can go forward. They're like the White House press secretary and Trump are all like, no, that's not what we said. That came from, you know, the management and budget office. This is not a two step process that people seem to fail to understand. The first step was the executive orders that he put out saying, we're no longer going to send money to these organizations that
facilitate illegal immigration we're no longer going to send money to these organizations that uh... help kids uh... transition we're no longer gonna send money overseas for scholarships you know for for people who live in other countries all of these were executive orders that said we're not doing that anymore the second one was basically stopping the money to say now we're making sure
that that doesn't happen. Apparently, because we found out some people were still going on and doing the stuff, flying in the face of these executive orders, some people actually had to be fired because they were refusing to comply. There were several people in one office who got the acts like all at once. It was like, oh, you're trying to do an end around here?
you no longer work here so uh... this was they they put they put the stop on it and said we're not going to do this anymore will sort all this out will take the money claw it back put it back in the big slash fund and then you know the money that is going to go out that is still usable that we the doesn't apply to any of the executive orders we're gonna do that so that's that's a one-two punch uh... and and both one and two are affecting the same thing oh yeah absolutely and again condoms for gazza for instance
Oh, geez, make bomb. You know, once again, you've got cartel jumping on trains and you've got Hamas that's making bombs out of condoms. You're just like, Oh my gosh. Usually you don't get a bomb unless there's no condiment. All right. Let's move on. Sorry. Bittersweet day for the family of University of Georgia student, Lake and Riley as President Trump signed
the Lake and Riley act into law yesterday. This marks the very first piece of legislation to become law in Trump's second administration, 22 year old just for those of you that, you know, haven't been up to this. Most of you guys are, but 22 year old Laken was killed by an illegal alien while on a jog on the UGA campus back in February of last year. The measure advanced through the house in the Senate this month and directs ICE to detain illegal aliens arrested and charged with theft and related crimes.
or those accused of assaulting a police officer. The law allows states the ability to sue the Department of Homeland Security for harm caused to citizens because of illegal immigrants. Riley's mother apparently was there, expressed her gratitude to Donald Trump for signing this. Also her husband, Riley's dad and John and sister were also present at that signing.
difficult to watch, but so glad that Donald Trump, first of all, winning the election, his promise that that family was, if I win, I will make sure that this gets passed. And man, it's the first piece of legislation to become law, and he was able to follow through on that promise to this family. And that's the silver lining in this. It is. Yeah, got voted on by the House and Senate before Donald Trump even took office, which was impressive. It is the first act that he has signed into law. It's now the lake in Riley
law. That little nugget about the state's being able to sue the Department of Homeland Security is interesting because it puts a little time bomb in there for if somebody else takes over. If for some reason you don't have a conservative or a Trump or a MAGA person coming up next in line for the presidency in in 2028 29,
Um, then, you know, if, for instance, God forbid Kamala should win and decides, well, let's throw those, uh, border gates open again. Now states like Texas or Alabama or those who are most deeply affected by this and hate it are able to go to the federal government and go, okay, now you owe us a whole bunch of money. You have to pay us.
for all of the money that we have put out taking care of these. For instance, Chicago could do that under the circumstances. New York could do that. Now, this is a law, of course, that only goes forward. You can't do it retroactively, which is a shame because I'm sure both New York and Chicago would like to sue the federal government over this, but they can't. So it's nice that we're kind of putting a little fail safe in there to make sure that this doesn't happen again.
Right. You know, because you we've heard from some of the of those working in the with ice and they're like, you know, our hands were tied. We weren't we weren't picking these people up. Well, the crimes are being committed. You know, somebody's got to be held accountable. It's your job to, you know, arrest these people and put them in jail and keep them. And then I guess deport them, but your boss tells you that unless unless Joe's like that, don't worry about it. I'll just, you know, go have a cup of coffee.
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All right, we got this briefing going on right now. Hey, this is happening out in DC. We want to cover a little bit of this. Let's go to it live. DC Fire Nehemps, Chief John, John Donnelly, American Airline CEO Robert Ison.
The MWA, the Washington Metropolitan Washington Airport's Authority CEO Jack Carter, United States Senator Mark Warner, United States Senator Tim Caine, U.S. Representative Don Byer, as well as the Chief of the Metropolitan Police Department, Pamela Smith. And we are joined by first responders from across the Metropolitan Washington region.
I speak for all of us when I say and certainly all Washingtonians how very sad we are for
American Airlines for the United States Department of Defense and for all Americans for the loss of life that happened with the collision of these aircrafts. We know that includes families from across our region as well as in Kansas and across the country. This morning we all share in a profound sense of grief.
I do want to thank the first responders who acted quickly last night, who ran towards danger, went into a very frigid river, and have worked throughout the night. Chief Donnelly reported in last night's briefing that we have a strong mutual aid agreement in our region, and those teams have worked together throughout the night in really tough and heartbreaking conditions. And we should all thank them for their heroic efforts.
So we'll have several updates today. I'm first going to turn to the Secretary of Transportation, Sean Duffy, and then you will hear directly from Chief John Donnelly with a situational update.
Thank you, Mayor, again, Sean Duffy here, Secretary of Transportation. We wish we were gathering for different purposes today. I just want to let you know that the Department of Transportation, the FAA, along with the White House President Trump
local, state, and federal partners all working together on this incident in unison. I couldn't be proud of this team that's been assembled working tirelessly. Mira, I want to thank you specifically for your work. A few details I'd like to give all of you. And some of you reported this, but last night, if you live in the DC area, you would know that this was a clear night. Last night.
The helicopter was in a standard pattern. If you live in the DC area, you'll see helicopters up and down the river. This flight pattern is seen oftentimes when you live in DC. This was a standard flight pattern last night as well. The American airline flight coming into land was in a standard flight pattern as it was coming into DCA.
So this was not unusual with military aircraft flying the river and aircraft landing at DCA. And again, if you live in the area, you'll see that frequently with those two aircraft working together.
As many of you have reported, we have located the two aircrafts. The fuselage of the American Airline plane was inverted. It's been located in three different sections.
It's in about waste, deep water, so that recovery is going to go on today as that recovery takes place of the fuselage of the aircraft. NTSB is going to start to analyze that aircraft, partner with the FAA with all the information we have to get the best results possible for the American people. I would just say that
Safety is our expectation. Everyone who flies in American skies expects that we fly safely, that when you depart in airport, you get to your destination. That didn't happen last night. And I know the President Trump, his administration, the FAA, the DOT, we will not rest until we have answers for the families and for the flying public. You should be assured that when you fly, you're safe.
Thank you. Thank you, Secretary. Thank you, Mayor. I'm joined today by with Fauci Bonnet from the Metropolitan Washington Airport Authority. And I'm John Donnelly Chief of the District of Columbia Fire and EMS Department.
Last night at 848, the control tower sounded an alert, which alerts responders to respond to a report of an aircraft crash on or near the airport. That sets off an immediate response from the airport authority fire department from the District of Columbia and Metropolitan Harbor Patrol fireboats and other fireboats on the river in order to support that type of operation. Very quickly, this call escalated. It became, you know,
responders realized that they had a plane crash and immediately escalated to a response that ultimately included about 300 people last night. These responders found extremely frigid conditions. They found heavy wind. They found ice on the water and they're
operated all night in those conditions. I'd like to take a moment to acknowledge the agencies that responded in addition to DC Fire and MS and Metropolitan Washington Airport's authority. My Montgomery County Fire Department, the Prince George's County Fire Department, the Charles County Fire Department, the Baltimore County Police Department, the Anne Arundel County Fire Department,
The Alexandria Fire Department, the Arlington County Fire Department, the Fairfax Fire Department, the Prince William Fire Department, the Baltimore City Police Department, the Maryland State Police, the Maryland Natural Resources Police, the Department of Defense, the Joint Base, and the Bowling
the fire department and the staff there, the US Army, the US Coast Guard, the United States Park Police, the Metropolitan Police Department, the FBI and the NTSB. Despite all those efforts, we are now at a point where we are switching from a rescue operation to a recovery operation. At this point, we don't believe there are any survivors from this accident.
And we have recovered 27 people from the plane and one from the helicopter. The district office of the medical examiner has lead on reuniting these bodies and these people with their loved ones. And we will continue to work to find all the bodies and collect them and reunite them with their loved ones, which should also acknowledge
We've been listening to the news conference there in Washington. All right, there you go. That is pretty much what's going on. We hear about the collision that took place. It was hoping they would give us a little bit more on recovery efforts and the number of people. And the number we saw this morning was 30. There were 64 aboard the plane, three on the military helicopter and one out of the helicopter and the rest seemed to be from the plane. And the fuselage from that plane in waist deep water
in three pieces. So again, probably no survivors. Certainly none have showed up as of yet. Apparently the helicopter was flying a standard pattern. Now that's interesting. I wonder if that is something that is done specifically to
you know, to keep an eye out for bad guys, this is Ronald Reagan International or National Airport, I say, is right there in the heart of Washington, DC. You've flown into it, right? It's an interesting place to go. Before they got that thing built and got it up to speed, you know, when you wanted to land in or around Washington, DC, you were an hour away. I mean, it was crazy. So flying into Reagan is just an extremely convenient way to get into and out of Washington, DC.
But I wouldn't be surprised if they felt the need to. You know, let's keep some eyes in the sky all the time. This is kind of an important airport. There's always important people, you know, our elected representatives and, you know, cabinet positions and things of that nature coming and going through that airport.
So making sure that there's no missiles coming in the cover of a big deal. Pretty much this is the most tightly controlled and monitored aerospace in the world. So again, military helicopters in that area is not uncommon. But the question is, how in the world did these two collide? And maybe it was the changing of the runways
from the longer runway to the shorter runway, because obviously this is a little smaller plane with the potential of 70 aboard. There were 64, 60 passengers for crew. I just wonder if maybe that had a little something to do it. It kind of changed where they were initially going to come in. Did the helicopter, did the military helicopter not get that message? Even though they're saying that the tower did put that out,
to the military helicopter, but there's no word that they received a response from that aircraft. So we don't know that, but it could be that the change of this runway put them on a collision course that initially they weren't on.
Also, there's a suggestion that maybe the tower and the helicopter, not on the same frequency. That's a possibility, too. They were having trouble talking to each other. So even though the tower was saying, hey, there's a plane. Do you see the plane? Are you aware of the plane? This went on for a couple of minutes. And apparently the helicopter was not aware of the plane because they hit it.
Yeah, it literally minutes before the accident occurred, the Black Hawk helicopter received a radio call from the air traffic control, warning the pilot, do you have a CRJ in sight? That's the question. Pass behind the CRJ. And I believe that's telling the Black Hawk you need to go around behind the CRJ, the plane that is coming in. And either they didn't get that message or they misjudged it. I'm not.
We won't know for quite some time as this investigation unfolds, but a tragedy like this, this really should have been avoided last night. Absolutely horrible. This is one of those that you just shake your head out and say, it shouldn't have happened. I was shocked to find that this was the first fatal plane crash over American soil or on American soil.
since 2009. I'm telling you, that's impressive. If you think about the thousands and thousands of flights every day that go in and out of airports around our country, that's commendable right there. It's no wonder they say, hey, this is safer than driving because we have fatalities on our roadways every single day, lots and lots of them, and this is the first
You know, air accident that we've had that involves fatality since 2009. Good Lord. Yeah, and here's the other thing. This is the last time an American Airlines had a crash was 2001. Wow.
Well, think about that 24 years ago. It's always right there. You think about it and everybody's like, well, the odds of you being in a plane crash is like being struck by lightning. Literally, if you really do the math on this, that's impressive that in 24 years, American hasn't had a crash, but this is the one. And we've got US figure skaters on board. There were some Russian skaters as well and their families aboard leaving Wichita, Kansas.
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mhm sorry let's uh... go to the phones were done is in alina down here on top and i thought that i thought what they said about it what's on your mind good morning good morning to you i would like to kind of give insight on the pilot and um... the way the a t c system works is if the controller cannot uh... get contact you know actually get us somebody replying to them they're supposed to divert
the person that they can talk to. So this is, they can talk all they want, but this is ATC air traffic controls problem all the way. I mean, it's just, I've been close calls myself before and it's one of those things, you know, they're talking to you, talking to you, say, hey, you know, you need to do this. You need to get this out too. You need to turn to this heading, you know, and
you know, something happened with air traffic control there, because if they couldn't get in touch with the helicopter, then you send the CJ around. You know, you don't, uh, you don't, uh, you don't hesitate. You don't wait. And, you know, I've known, like saying, talk to several ATC people and, and I hate to say it, but since the deal with the air traffic controllers back in the day, they, they literally took thousands of air traffic controllers and
our potential air traffic controllers, put them in big gyms and basically said, hey, raise your hand if you don't be an air traffic controller. Of course, they had to take tasks and stuff. But, you know, and now with the DEI stuff, I'm telling you guys, there are people out there that are not qualified because you have to think on your feet. You have to really be fast and be very clear at how you speak. And, you know, again, I've
talks to several of them, and like, for instance, the separation based on the speed of aircraft. I mean, there's all kinds of things that they have to go through, and they have to make split-second decisions, and they have to make them in a quick hurry. And, you know, again, if you're not talking to somebody, you tell the other guy you can talk to, get the hell out of the way.
what you got to admit i mean even as bad as you claim the air traffic control situation is not having a fatal air accident since two thousand nine in the united states is pretty impressive it is but it but i'll tell you like that there's there's a close calls all the time oh sure sure then and and you know also go back to the pilots in this situation as well you know uh... but that's the guy in the jet
You know, a lot of people think that, you know, the ATC is like the cops of on the street and they continue to do anything. That's not true either. You know, if those airplanes have a thing called TCAS, which is like their own onboard radar per se, we have new programs out there that's been implemented called ADSB, the traffic alert and even the small airplanes
especially these bigger airplanes, they all have that on them. And I can actually, while I'm flying around, I can see airlines that are 25,000 feet above me, you know, flying across, it shows they're in number and it shows the information, basic information, if they're climbing how, you know, the direction they're headed. And, and it should just even the probe, even the system on their plane should have told them that there was a problem. Somebody, somebody was
headed their direction and there was something going on. And so there's several things that didn't go right. But the main thing is, could have been a young crew on their plane, who knows, because a lot of these smaller subcontractors of American and all that stuff, they are lower-time pilots, still great pilots. They'll give me their own, not trying to say anything about that. But a lot of the guys still believe
Yeah, like I said, air traffic controllers are the, are the gods of the sky and, and you must do exactly what they say. Oh, no. No, you, you feel like you're in danger and your crews in danger, your airplanes in danger, your pastures of danger. You do what's necessary to get out of the situation. So just want to kind of bring that up. And like I said, I know several air traffic controllers that I'm telling you, DEI is a problem and hopefully we get rid of it out of
this program. No doubt. They got to go. No doubt. Don, great call. We thank you for your input. We really appreciate it. Richard, thank you very much. Not long ago, I was with a couple of pilots and a golf tournament. I can say Atlanta, you can guess what airline. Yeah. And they talked about this very thing about air traffic controllers. They lowered the standards for pilots and a couple of other things that happened that they didn't like what they were seeing and they were very concerned about it. Yeah.
And this was two years ago that they were saying these things. So again, we don't know the situation of what caused this accident, but it sure looks like it was preventable. It sure does. I thought that immediately upon hearing the news this morning.
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