Danhausen: Out Of Character Interview! AEW, Influences, Curses, Conan O'Brien
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January 30, 2025
TLDR: Danhausen (@DanhausenAD), AEW wrestler, discusses rise on independent scene, debut on Dynamite, cursing William Regal, torn pec, off-TV in 2024, breaking character for interviews, and nicknaming wrestlers with Chris Van Vliet at West Coast Creative Studio.

In this engaging episode of the podcast, Chris Van Vliet interviews the enigmatic professional wrestler Danhausen, a rising star in All Elite Wrestling (AEW), known for his unique character and captivating persona. The interview dives deep into Danhausen's journey, influences, and the art of wrestling, providing fans with a fascinating look behind the makeup.
Key Highlights
Rise to Popularity
- Danhausen discusses his rise in popularity on the independent wrestling scene, detailing how it set the stage for his AEW debut.
- He emphasizes the importance of creativity and character in wrestling as critical to connecting with the audience.
Character Development
- Inspired by legends like Conan O'Brien and The Simpsons, Danhausen created a persona blending humor with horror elements. He describes the duality of being "very nice" yet "very evil", utilizing bright face paint to disarm his opponents.
- Danhausen's character evolved over time, transitioning from a more serious independent wrestler to the unique, comedic figure he portrays today.
The Power of Cursing
- One of Danhausen's defining traits is his ability to curse others, a gimmick he takes seriously. He humorously reflects on the reactions of wrestlers like William Regal when subjected to his curses, discussing whether they truly bring misfortune.
- He shares experiences from his matches, where his curses have added an extra layer of narrative to his in-ring persona.
Overcoming Adversity
- After suffering a torn pectoral muscle, Danhausen candidly recalls the challenges of being sidelined and staying relevant in a highly competitive environment. He continued engaging with fans through social media and online content during his recovery.
Breaking Character
- The interview touches on the concept of breaking character during interviews. Danhausen discusses the necessity of showing his true self to connect with fans and how it contrasts with his in-ring persona, likely adding a deeper appreciation for his wrestling character.
Insights on Wrestling and Entertainment
- Danhausen shares his philosophy on wrestling as a diverse buffet of entertainment, where every performer plays a role. He highlights the importance of variety in wrestling and how each character contributes to the show’s overall appeal.
- He reflects on the comedy found within wrestling, crediting influential wrestlers like Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock for seamlessly blending humor into their personas while maintaining the seriousness of the sport.
Goals and Future Aspirations
- Danhausen speaks candidly about his goals beyond wrestling, such as getting involved in creative projects like cartoons and comic books. He expresses a desire to continue working in entertainment beyond the ring, hopeful for future collaborations with comedy legends.
- He reveals ambitions to create a Danhausen cartoon, bringing his quirky character to broader audiences, and notes the influence of his childhood experiences on his creative endeavors.
Gratitude and Personal Reflections
- He expresses gratitude towards his wife, family, and friends, acknowledging their support throughout his career. This personal touch adds depth to his character, revealing the man behind the makeup.
Conclusion
This episode of the podcast offers a thorough exploration of Danhausen as both a character and an individual. Fans are treated to a candid discussion filled with humor, inspiration, and insights into the wrestling industry. Chris Van Vliet successfully showcases Danhausen's unique personality, leaving listeners with a greater appreciation for not only his character but the art of wrestling itself.
"In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: It goes on." - Robert Frost
Through this episode, fans of wrestling and entertainment alike are left with a resonating message: perseverance, creativity, and above all, the joy of connecting with others are at the heart of any performance.
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Dan Housing is one of the most unique characters in all of wrestling. And today, we get a look at the man behind that character. It's a very rare interview where he has no makeup on. He's not doing the voice. And by that, I mean, we used extremely expensive CGI and editing effects to make Dan Housing look like a human for this one.
But it's amazing hearing the inspiration for what he does and where it came from among other things. It's Conan O'Brien and The Simpsons. I love it. He's such an interesting guy. There's so much to dive into with this one and just how his mind works when it comes to not just wrestling, but just entertainment as a whole. Snap a screenshot, tag us, let us know you're listening.
He's at Danhausen AD. I'm at Chris Van Vliet and here we go. Enjoy this conversation with the one and only Danhausen. We have blown the budget for the entire year for this extremely expensive CGI. Well, I am going to appreciate you didn't just use AI.
CGI to have you in your human maker? Yeah, so good to see you again. You too. It's been, what, four years? But a long time. Four years via Zoom, I believe. Yeah, that's right. Maybe during the pandemic era. Just not the same. Or before, I don't know. I know, it was definitely during. Yeah. It's not the same. Yeah. Not the same. No, no, in studio. But this, but the CGI has gone even better. Like what? Full body CGI. Look how good you look. Amazing. Thank you.
Do you get recognized out of makeup? If it's a wrestling event. If it's a wrestling event, yes. I've been actually recognized once at a GNC because it was literally, this is going to sound like a lie. I walked in, like I said, hello, and I went, hello, and then he went, Danhausen, and I went, what? And he goes, I recognize the voice. And he was like, whoa.
I was so caught off guard and he was like How do you think your real voice sounds that much like Dan housing? I don't I think it's you know, there's hints of it there, especially now. It's kind of like the
Simpsons effect, sort of, where like Dan Castellana sounded much different in the earlier episodes where he was doing the voice. And now I feel like he probably just sounds more like himself doing the voice. So it's probably morphed a little bit into just being me. But he's like, oh, I study voice acting. And I was like, he knew like instantly was crazy. Oh, he had to have a full sentence with him or anything. He was just, hello.
And he just, he had to have been a wrestling fan, obviously, so like there was already a guess that. But yeah, it was just weird. Just in Michigan. If you were something like this, you might get recognized for your tattoo. Maybe. But yeah, I think I was just dressed like, when I probably had a hoodie on, I think it was winter.
So I pied a coat on actually. And then you just immediately snap into Dan Housing Voice? No, no, it gives me anxiety. I don't like to make other people uncomfortable as much as that character like, I do it. So whenever I have to do like a public thing, I try to be very mindful of everybody because I don't want them to have a bad time, make them feel weird that we're doing something. You know what I mean? What do you mean? Like, I don't know. Everybody loves Dan Housing. But it's true. Yeah. He's definitely not polarizing. Love that Dan Housing.
No, but like, if you're doing the voice for someone who's a fan, they'd probably be like, this is amazing. Well, also, I feel very weird doing the voice when I'm not in the thing. If I'm not in the makeup and I do the voice, I hate it. I've done it because I've had to do some voice over stuff, like just where to like for, you know, AEW video game or whatever, like.
It's still a little weird. I actually think I probably had makeup on during that because it was just whatever like I was getting ready for the day anyway. But I've done some of the voice stuff without it and it's like that feels wrong. I just I don't like it. Is it it's almost like putting on a mask and you become that character. Yeah. Well, I don't know if we had touched on this in the first time we talked, but.
A very bad stage fright. For anything like speaking in public, we need to have to write papers in school and go to the front of the class and be shaking. So it is kind of like wearing a mask for me and it's helped me just be able to do public things much better. Public speaking and everything. I know you love the Simpsons. So when you're told or asked to do the voice, does it feel like the Bart Simpson? Do the line, Bart. I didn't do it. Yes. Sometimes yes, especially if it's a
I'll get it sometimes where like, if I'm doing a meet and greet, unless it's little kids, I don't really do the voice. Like I'm talking to adults. And it's also usually for a comic con where I'm there for a long time. I can't do the voice for eight hours straight. I won't have a voice for TV or like, you know, videos or whatever. So like, sometimes people just walk up and do it, do the voice. And I'm just like, no, this is also that's not like a polite way to ask that. You should just then curse them. Usually they'll be like, well, can I at least get cursed? And I'll do that, you know?
They've been cursed, though. Like, I could do the voice. It's just like, don't just come up to me and say, do the line bar. Like, yeah, it's just, it's weird. I didn't do it. Makes me feel really weird immediately. Does it strain your voice? A little bit, yeah. So if I'm doing like cameos for a long time, like Christmas time or Halloween, like I usually have a lot of extra ones, I feel like I'm going to throw up.
At a certain point, it starts to make me nauseous almost. I think I should probably take classes, which I think you've sent me things before, which I probably forgot to read, but I remembered right now. But there's probably techniques to not feel that way. But yeah, I think it's because I'm projecting from the back of my throat. Instead of your diaphragm. Probably. That's a whole thing, right? Yeah, and it just eventually makes me feel nauseous and I could start to lose my voice.
Just have a chat with Justin Roberts. The way that he works his voice and somehow never loses it. He clearly knows what he's doing. I don't know. This is why I also save the voice for just TV things and video things, because if I do my videos for Patreon or YouTube or whatever, it's generally treated like a full work day, where it's like, I don't know, we're going to be filming for eight hours. That's a day where I need to do the voice for
realistically not eight hours, but multiple hours, so. Do you love that Dan housing? I do. I have to at this point. I thought true. I don't know. No, no, no, no. I enjoy doing it still. Yeah. So I feel like it could very easily not be fun or be turned into something that's like a chore. And sometimes it is. And then I just have to remember like old jobs that I had, like where I go, I just have to put on makeup and make someone smile.
That that's so much nicer and like I don't want to say nicer because like I used to be a nursing assistant. So like you're 12 hour shifts. They were very hard. Usually they were long. I'd work multiple usually. I've done like 12 days in a row of that stuff and I try to remember those where I go. It's this much, much, much more lacks and easier and I don't have to clean up puke or.
bodily fluids. So I'm like, this is, this is good. I remember, that was rewarding, but this is also rewarding. I remember going to Ronan Pro Wrestling. Yeah. South Florida. Yeah. And you were, you were Donovan Downhouse. Yes. Which was a completely different year. I was guy.
Guy with beard and tattoos. Guy with beard and tattoos. Yeah, but that was like the first what few years probably of me starting. So it was just, hey, go get reps in and wrestle people. And, you know, without that, I don't think I would have gotten to where I was, obviously. Like, I feel like there's people who kind of got their character, like almost immediately, like MJF, I think didn't take very long to get who he was. And then he just added to it because it's him.
He's a jerk, so he's the worst. So he just adds to being the worst constantly. He just gets horrible and worse and worse and worse. I would see him, what was it, C4 wrestling in Ottawa, and instead of selling merch, he would just sit at the merch table and yell at people. That's it. That's what he would do. That's classic MJF. That's also what he does at Comic-Cons, but now he's got a little bit longer lines, I think.
mixes it up and takes some of the money. But for you to go from that call it generic indie wrestler to this, which popped off like crazy, there's a big jump from that. I didn't see any of this Dan Housing when I watched you in the ring back then. No, no, no, no. That was very much serious trying to be an ass ticker man and I'm not.
It's just not who I am. I'm goofy. We talked about watching The Simpsons, I like cartoons, comic books, horror movies, or movies too, where it's goofy and tongue-in-cheek. That's more of who I am. Being able to slowly trickle into that version of me was much more comfortable in suiting. But you don't just trickle into putting makeup on.
No, that's a big line. You cross. Yes. So that came from my dad because Halloween was very big in our house. He would do my makeup every single year. I'd be a zombie with glass out of my head. Like, but you sent me to school like this, like a, what? I don't know, first and second grade, probably third grade. Like you do full makeup on me, send me to school and they'd be like, oh, that's a,
It's a little extreme, don't you think? And he'd be like, I'm a zombie. I don't know. My dad did my makeup. That's awesome. But he worked in haunted houses as it was growing up. So he's super artistic. He'd paint comic bookstores and things like that. He'd paint the Hulk and spawn and everything on the walls. He'd make my costumes homemade. We did a cane one year where he took a Jason mask.
And he painted it and melted it and used like hot glue and stuff because I don't think they're selling cane masks at the time. So he took a sweat suit and pleather and made me the red and black cane suit. So there's a photo of that somewhere. I don't know what my guy will find it. Yeah, it's been posted somewhere on Twitter and probably Instagram and everything. But there's that. There's a zombie. This is Dracula, like.
That's slowly just has always been in the back of my head. So that's always been there of wanting to do that. Wow. Like the horror character or including the horror stuff into it, but not knowing how because it's usually not great. There's like a few examples where it is. But generally it's always kind of like you're either the tough guy or you're the horror character or like, you know, whatever, like. So yeah, that
eventually got there. But what made you go, what I'm doing on the Indies isn't working. I'm going to do a massive right turn here. Try something else. That was without naming names. I was doing weekly Indies and making no money. I was working at Starbucks at the time, so I was doing
Five AM shifts, so I was waking up at like four or whatever, getting to work. Five AM to one PM, driving three or three and a half hours every week to the independent place or whatever and wrestling. And it was, it was fine. I was getting reps and stuff, but I was getting like beat up. I wasn't making any money at the time, like I didn't have the characters. Still wasn't, I was selling a couple T-shirts here and there, but I remember it was just like months and months and months of that after years and years and years of like the Ronins and all that and like Fest Wrestling and
traveling around to Texas and everywhere, St. Louis. So during this one, just one of the shows I had gotten was at the kitchen sink where they kick you in the stomach, you flip over. But I think it for real got kicked in the ribs, flipped over and I landed on my knees and then I was going to get kicked in the chest. And like, it's fully open. And I got kicked straight in the throat, like as hard as humanly possible. And I just rolled out of the ring and I was like, this fucking sucks. So I don't wear a lot of swear. I don't want to set hell on here.
I said a lot of things. Sorry, I keep moving too. It was just like building, but that was like the catalyst of I went, fuck this. I don't want to do this anymore. This sucks. Because I was also like, I thought I'd crush my larynx.
Cause it was like, it was bad. I was like, I should maybe go to the hospital. I don't know. I just, I grabbed my stuff and I went in my car and I just sat there for a second. And I was like, I'm going to drive home. I'm not coming back here. Uh, I have to figure something out because I want to quit wrestling right now. Wow. And then I was like, well, I think it was subgrabs in Tennessee was like, Hey, come do whatever you want. Like Kevin Coo helped run it, um, from violence is forever. Uh,
And it was Jesse, his name's righteous Jesse. I don't know his last name in camp. I can't remember. He has a VHS store in Nashville now though.
Um, but they were just like, yeah, do it to Halloween show, do whatever you want. So I did the, they live makeup, uh, which I just watched some guy do a tutorial on YouTube and I just copied it, which I'd learned again from my dad, which is watching him do makeup all the time. And I was like, I can draw kind of like, I'm not great, but like, I can, I can look at something and I can kind of recreate it for it. Not easily, but I can do that fairly well. Uh, so that's what I do with makeup. And then I just did that. And I was like, well, this, I can't make money off of because it's John Carpenter's. Yeah.
like they live makeup. But it's a fun Halloween makeup. So I did that. And then I went back to doing normal Dan Howes and a little bit here and there. And I was like, it doesn't feel the same. Like this kind of socks still, like does it feel right? And then I think it was Jimmy Jacobs at an A.I.W. seminar, which is like, why don't you just do your makeup more? I like all the time. He's like, I watched you do it. You seem very comfortable.
And then I watched you not do it again for a few shows after that, like just clips or whatever. And it's like, you don't look like you're in your own skin. And I was like, okay. And then I started doing it more and more and more and more and started getting more comfortable with it. So that was the horror serious version.
So that had to develop more, but that lasted for a little while. I can tell that you've been wearing the makeup recently, because it's in your ears. Yeah, it's in my ears. It's always in my ears. It's always in my eyes. I had it on last night at a show. I did. What's the key? It just makeup wipes? Yeah, and then shower, and then I was still in my ears. It's in here. It's in here. It's in here. It's probably inside of my skull at this point. It doesn't seem to get off on your opponents as much as like Sting's makeup. No, so I think he uses a
Really, which is like normal painting. You use latex? No. So I use wolf makeup, which is like a theater-based, water-based makeup. Oh. I think it's just like a higher quality so it doesn't come off. But if it's like sauna hot in the arena or wherever we're at in the hall or the gym or wherever at that week, like if it's sauna hot, it'll underneath get like sweaty. Oh. And then the moment someone like puts me in a headlock, it's just off.
But only in that section though, it's not draining down my face. Yeah. So. Like when Sting would wrestle people, it'd be all over there. He's a peel off. Yeah. A little bit. Or then it would get on people. Yeah. If it was in a headlock, you'd see it on someone's arm or something like that. Mine does that kind of, but at the beginning of a match, if it's in here where it's nice, it won't do that. You might get a tiny, tiny bit, but it comes off of the mat easily. It comes off of clothes and gear easily. So I think people will see it and go,
Oh, you're going to ruin my gear. And I go, no, I'm not. That's why I use what I use. So it doesn't ruin anything. I am a professional. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So the thing, the great thing about being Dan housing is you don't have to take the crazy bumps you were taking early on. Like that style of wrestling. Yeah. Really like allows you to have a little bit more longevity.
Yes. And then you can kind of pick and choose your moments of like, oh, well, maybe for this match because it's a pay-per-view match or it's a bigger match. Like, I can take those bumps. We can build a little bit more of something like, because yeah, for the most part, like if it's, you know, an independent show, like I don't need to be bumping on the floor.
bumping on the apron or anything like that or go, you know, doing anything crazy, even though like for GCW, we wrest, I wrestled Cardona. And it was just like one of those things where it's like, you can see me kicking glass, like leftover glass out of the ring. Cause like, I don't want to get slammed on glass. This sucks.
But it comes with the territory of some shows. Conan O'Brien, possessed by a demon, might be the best description of any inspiration for wrestling character. Which was awesome that I got to tell him that. That's insane. Which that leads into the, we touched on a little bit, but the serious horror character you could see.
Oh, I could see that it was kind of getting a little bit more successful and I was selling more merch and whatever. And then it was kind of like hit a standstill and I was like, okay, so this isn't it, but this is the right direction. And it was kind of like a, I think of it as like convention based too. Like if there's a horror convention, horror fans are only going to go to it. If it's an everything convention, there's something for everybody like a comic book or just whatever general media convention like
So the horror is kind of too niche, I think, of just being only a horror character. And I think that's why Bray Wyatt worked better when he...
was the fiend and, you know, just spray Wyatt. Like because he had both, best of both worlds. He had Peewee's Playhouse and he had horror movies. So it's like, that's where you can get everybody. Because they go, oh, even if I don't like this, I love this part of it. Sure. So I like this character. And then you just generally probably wind up liking both. So that was like mixing in Conan O'Brien and Peewee Herman and Alvira in like movies like Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness, like Sam Raimi stuff.
Just like the B movie, Weird Horror, Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2, American Werewolf in London, like as humor in it, even though it's such a horror movie. But like mixing all of that and like the Simpsons and Mr. Burns and Crusty the Clown, like the lot of Crusty the Clown in what I do. My face is on everything. Yeah, but mixing that stuff and then a nice way to describe it is just Conan O'Brien possessed by Peter.
I don't know. Is that a nice thing? I think so. Yeah, I think he's a genius. It wants to be possessed by a demon. I mean, if that demon makes money, you're very rich, right? Yeah, very rich, very evil. And very nice. Yeah, and very nice sometimes. The interesting thing about Dan Howson is when you look at the character, you can tell he's not like going to kill you.
There's something that's kind of- You might think he's going to, though. But there's something that's very nice and very evil. But if you were to just look at it, if you were to just look at the face paint, you'd go, ah, guys, he seems kind of nice. That's always smiling.
That's it. Because it's quite a smile. Well, so that came from the everybody's wrestling promo photos was always just them with their yelling face or well, like they're tongue out or something. So I was like, oh, you're supposed to smile in photos to look nice. So that's where that came from is just that and being told I smiled too much when I was wrestling. So then I turned it into a money making thing. It's brilliant.
I tried to turn everything that was told not to do into something that makes me money, basically. When did the momentum really start to build? When do the popularity still really start to be there? I would say, so I was wrestling, scheduled to wrestle Effie, and that was when he was first also getting some notoriety, because we also done Florida Indies together, just
When we first started, like at Fest Wrestling, we wrestled, I think, every single show for some reason, which was 2015 or something around there, 2015, 2016. But we had Black Label Pro, and we were supposed to have an eight-minute match or something. And they're like, sorry, guys, people went long. I think it was four minutes. And we're like, OK. And that's where I did the teeth for the first time. Because I was like, well, if I could do this weird stuff that I kind of want to experiment with, F is the guy to do that with.
So that's when I was like, I used them like thumbtacks for that match and I just poured them out. I think we did a superplex is the finish on the teeth. Um, yeah, we just, I took that four minutes or five minutes or whatever it was. And we got a little bit of buzz off of that because people like, Oh, teeth, that's weird. Uh, and then I just rolled with it and kept putting out stuff and more and more and more like.
It's all like, I try to tell this to people who are coming up and who have had some success and you have to just continue with that momentum no matter what. Just roll with it.
like keep it going up as much as humanly possible because you don't know when it's gonna end. And I think you also need to remember that, especially when you're on the Indies, the crowd that saw you in Illinois is not the same crowd that's seeing you in California. No, you kind of have to pretend it's the first time anybody's seeing you every single time. Yeah. Unless, like if it's somewhere like freelance wrestling, generally I know that their crowd knows who I am at this point. Like I've done their shows so many times. Sure. That's a different story, but yeah, like last night in Atwater, California, like that's four hours from Los Angeles,
They don't all know who I am. So this is a show where you have to go, oh, well, this is me and kind of give them the not the greatest hits, but the greatest hits. Like, that's why I always look back at the John Cena getting the five moves of doom thing. And it's like, yeah, that's genius. That's what everyone should be doing because
each time you have to pretend like you have to do your thing so people know what your things are. So then eventually it does catch on everywhere and that's just how it works. It got to a point 2019, 2020 in the 2021 where you were everywhere. It was like you couldn't ignore however you were and how popular you were. And so that many a year
I was supposed to have because it was my first mania weekend that I was doing where I was like, oh, cool. I'm finally at mania. What city was that? What was it supposed to be? It was 2020. Oh, it was 36 when it was supposed to be in Tampa. Yes. And I was supposed to do 12 matches, I think, in three days or something like that. So I was going to be bouncing. I was going to probably have an hour break in between each, but I had different matches everywhere. Like I think it was supposed to
Oh man, I was supposed to put on the show with War Horse, which is called Wrestlevania, which we booked as like a gimmick show, but also like we wanted to have good matches. So I think we were going to have Jake something versus Air Wolf, who is Dante Martin or Darius or Dwight Dante. No, Air Wolf. Which one was Air Wolf? There was Lucha Angel and there was Air Wolf. I don't know which ones they were. They had masks on.
But it was gonna wrestle like Jake something and we're gonna call him werewolf and I was like, just stupid things like that. War Horse was gonna team with the Ascension and I was gonna team with Effie and Gangrel and we're gonna come out to the brood music. Oh man, we're just gonna have fun with it and just do things like that. I can't remember what the other mansions were, but there was just like a bunch of just stuff like that on the show.
And I think I was supposed to wrestle Gigi Dolan on a show. I think I was going to wrestle on a deathmatch show, but not do a deathmatch. I don't know. It was just I was going to be everywhere. I was going to be at Fest Wrestling teaming with Jake something and doing some type of six man. So yeah, it was just all of that stuff. And then it just got taken away. Yeah. Well, it is what it is. Yeah, and the world shut down and we had to figure that out. Yeah. But I still think that you had this momentum that it was too big to ignore.
If you knew anything about wrestling, your Dan Housing was everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. Like it was just constantly putting my name out there and this is the George Costanza where he leaves the hello, I think, or the, so he leaves something in the hat. The hat. And he says, he stands up and I was like, oh, I should just add housing to everything. And it's also my friend, friends, Nick and David, who helped me film everything, who have been best friends with for like 10 years since I worked at a movie theater.
Uh, I think he added housing to a gang realm program. Oh, he was just like, Oh, you should say son of a bitch housing. And I was like, yeah, I should. And then they did it. And then that caught on and they started just doing that more and more and more and more. Would I be Chris Halzen? Yeah. Yeah. But you get the people who don't know how to do it exactly. And then it's like,
Chris, Vin, housing, valet, housing. I'm like, no, no, no, this is too much. This is just, you get to only do it sometimes and give it to people's names and sometimes they don't, I don't know. You just gotta feel it out. Prize picks is the best place to get real money sports action. With over 10 million members and billions of dollars in awarded winnings, Prize picks has made daily fantasy sports accessible to all. You just pick more or less on at least two players for a shot to win up to 1,000 times your cash.
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you had so much popularity that AW couldn't ignore you. And there was so much.
I feel like the fans were clamoring for this for a long time. When you finally came out and you finally debuted, it was huge. Yeah. I still had the broken leg too. Yeah. So that wasn't fun getting under the ring with the broken leg because it had broke three months before Halloween. Did you get signed with the broken leg? Yes. So I was signed with the broken leg. I'd been talking to them a little bit. Like I would say within the last week or two before that.
And then I showed up because I think a message Brodian was like, Hey, you're kind of close. I'm just sitting at home with a broken leg. Am I able to come just say hello to people? And he goes, I don't ask. And I think that was just, yeah, it's fine. And then you know, you go through the motion, you sign up just so they know who you are and everything. And, uh,
Yeah, I just I was there. I think that was the day where I think Cody was he had asked me goes, Hey, are you doing something tonight? And I was like, I'm not dressed as Dan housing at this point. And I just I've probably in one of my boots or something. And I was like, I mean, I always have my stuff just in case, but I got a broken leg and I don't work here. So I
And I was like, I don't know. He goes, all right, well, let me know. We'll get you something if you're not. And I was like, oh, wow. So I think Cody was going to do something with the Sammy Guevara match. I think we'll end up being his last match for the TNT title.
It's a crazy ladder, man. Yes. So I think they were going to hold me out on a ladder if the thing with Orange and Adam Cole didn't happen. He was just going to figure out a way to get me in his match to get me on. And I was like, oh, well, that's awesome. But we wound up doing the Adam Cole Orange Cassidy spot, which was similar. But same thing, and all that could really do was I was like, I could curse him. I can't really do anything. I can't run.
I can kind of hobble around. But what was great about it is the crowd instantly knew who you, which I was so relieved because, yeah, you don't know. Like, yes, I'm popular on the Indies, but like, and we had done, I'd done Ring of Honor, but like, you don't know what translates to where. And this is before AEW owned Ring of Honor. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This was, Ring of Honor had just shut down.
Probably like three or four months before because I think ring of honor shut down. Oh, wait, maybe they shut down in December. I think they did final battle and then they think that might have been it. That might have been their last show. You debuted in AEW a month later. Yeah. Because I'd done commentary on final battle with a broken leg and it sucked because I had to get up some stairs.
to get to the thing to do. I think it commentated a PCO match because I was teaming with him at the time. But then again, broken leg. But yeah, so they just debuted there and it kind of just snowballed from there. But then there were so many great moments like
You curse William Regal. That's a crowd. The crowd chants, holy shit. Yeah. I wish I had been able to do more with him on screen because he was also a guy I took a lot of my facial expressions from. I don't know if people ever, which I don't know why they don't, but like he's one of the best comedic wrestlers.
Like wherever he was, like all of that stuff with the jury was fun. He's just making faces constantly. It's just the match of the big show that I see the clip all the time now where he hits him with the brass knuckles and the big show falls back and then falls on him. It's just things like that. Like the guys like him and... He's a great straight man. Yes. He's a great straight man, but he's also plays a great comedic heel. Yeah, yeah. Same thing with like Christian.
Like I remember I was in the gym and Christian walked in and I was like, I usually don't like want to bother people. But I was like, Hey, I was like, gonna ask you something. And it was like, you don't usually, I don't think it asked about this specifically, but like you are a great comedic heel who also could just win matches. And I was like, I think that's like the key is like you have to be taken seriously when it's time to be taken seriously. But like he was tag team champions while he was putting giant sunglasses and hats and kazoos.
And doing five second poses. And doing five second poses, but also he was like a legitimate tag team champion at the time. That's true. Like him and Edge. So like, yeah, Kurt Angle's in that same category. Same category. Stone Cold Steve Austin is kind of in that same category, put a tiny cowboy hat on. He's swimming in milk. Like he, I don't think like, like, yes, Stone Cold Steve Austin is like,
the badass wrestler, but also like he is swimming in milk in beer and doing comedy things all of the time and it's amazing. Same thing with the rock. Like when Stone Cold would sing. Yes. It was so funny. Yes. And I just like, I don't think people think of like how well rounded all of those like John Cena, it's the rock, it's Stone Cold, it's Triple H, it's Shawn Michaels, like they're all very comedic wrestlers also. Yeah. And I think that's where like a lot of the
where it's like, oh, comedy wrestling is bad. And if you took out the comedy from all of those, a lot of their major moments wouldn't be around, that you probably are fond, like Stone Cold's stunning Santa Claus is one of, I remember that from childhood. That's one of my first memories of Stone Cold. A lot of the DX stuff. Yes, it's all comedy based. Like that spot where Triple H comes off the middle rope and he won't fall for whatever it is, a minute or something.
That's hilarious. And it's like, this is all comedy based, this is probably what more people connected with on a personal level is these guys being real human beings doing stuff like this versus like, you can't actually relate to hitting someone with a sledgehammer. You can relate to, you know what I mean? Like, no one's going around hitting people's sledgehammer.
Like rammin' in people's heads? That's probably not where they actually connected with a guy like Triple H. They probably connected with him from doing goofy things where you're like, oh, it's funny. I do that at home. I connected with him because I wanted to spit water everywhere. Yeah, well, yeah.
He looked so cool and the flashbobs are going off. Yeah. He came out to Motorhead. It was cool. All of his Motorhead themes are so cool. Yes, the King of Kings is awesome. The evolution. Yes. Yep. I really like the one, two. Is this the one? Yeah. Oh, it's my time. Yeah. But like all of that stuff is, like I said, I feel like that's connecting like you connected with stone or people connected with stone cold.
beating up his boss. Yeah. Well, that's the reason he got over. Yeah. But then there's all the comedy stuff that hitting him in the head with the bedpan. Like hilarious. Yeah. What are the things people connect with you the most? I think just being authentically weird because like I throw in these little
bits of, you know, Conan and the Simpsons. But I make it my own thing in Peewee. And like, obviously there's some stuff where I just do it. But like, I think they go, oh, I like that as a kid. Oh, this guy's doing all that weird stuff that I liked as a kid, or it's very similar. So like, I'm connected to that now.
Or the horror movie stuff like you get the horror fans because they go, oh, his makeup looks like it's inspired by the exorcist. Oh, well, it is. So then they go, oh, well, now I like you. There's even just stuff where they'll make connections that aren't necessarily there, but that's fine because they're connecting to something with me and that makes them happy.
But if you didn't tell me that you were inspired by a Conan O'Brien, I never would have made that connection. Oh, well, I got the hair. Like my hair is usually, if it's longer, I try to do a very shitty Conan O'Brien, like, pompadour. And it's because, oh, he's a nice TV host looking guy. And that's what my guy is like. So he was your guy in the era of Letterman and Lennon. Yes. So I used to, like, specifically stand up later for him.
Yes. And I remember, I want to say specifically on like summer breaks, I would be up later. So his show would just be on. He came on at 12.35. Yeah. And I would just be late watching that. And I just remember what the year 2000 bits, like those were mostly what I remember constantly from that time. And it's just weird humor. It's like kind of adult humor, but also not. And I know, but it is. So it's weird. It falls under that Simpsons category or like the space goes category or a virus.
It's not for children, but also children can enjoy it sort of because it's so goofy. But it's got that weird mix of adult humor in it too. It's like the Batman the Animated Series cartoon.
I can enjoy that as an adult as much as I did as a kid. Because it's a nice mix. You have so many moments that could be just throw away moments that end up really turning into something. For example, the ass boys. This is another David Davis, my assistant, on camera. Another thing he's like, oh yeah, because I think I was calling
Billy Gunn, Billy Ass or something. And he's like, yeah, he's Bill Ass. And they're like, that's his name. Because he had Mr. Ass on his trunks. And I was like, so in my head, my character would think, oh, that's his last name is Ass. So these have to be cold in an Austin Ass. So they're his ass. And I think David goes, yeah, they're his little ass boys.
And then I was like, oh, that's great. So, because we were on the cruise, the Jericho cruise together, and I'd ask them, I go, hey, would you care if I call you Billy ass? Because I didn't really know Billy at the time, and I didn't know, like,
Colton and Austin that well, like I knew knew them a little bit, but on the cruise, I was not signed. So like they were just guys that I was working with on the cruise and I was like, Oh, this could be funny. Can I call you this? Cause I don't want to offend anybody, especially like Billy, Billy's a legend. Like I don't want to just call him bill ass and be like, what are you doing?
But they're all very cool with it and like I remember Billy saying why I don't know how to do funny stuff And I'm like he's one of the funniest guys like on TV when he's allowed like doing that. So funny guy in general. Yes. Yeah, he's also just Society's incredible looking
Best looking guys on the roster. So jacked. Yes, he's huge. But yeah, no, the assboys thing. So I just, I believe I had found this out after. I guess Peter Avalon had called an assboys on a dark at some point.
But I hadn't seen it, but then I just rolled with it and made it a thing more. So like, I think technically he said it first. Yes. And then I just kept saying it and kept calling that and doing side YouTube videos with him. Like, I think I looked the other day and it's like one of my top three YouTube videos. It got them so over.
yeah with but then they put in the work like sure they embrace the ass they were signing autographs like not to ask you guys i think it's so funny uh... austin or colton i don't know which one i think that's still one of their twitter handles not ask boy uh... but yeah like they obviously took it and ran with it and they
They're awesome. So like they, they were able to do something with that and then turn it into something else. And now they're with the Bullet Club Gold. So like, which they get to be entertaining in, which I think is one of their biggest strengths is that they're, they're super entertaining. Juice Robinson, Jay White, they're all super entertaining. What exactly happens when Dan Ausen curses someone? Hopefully it works. I never know. Like, uh, their life just,
So, they're superstitious enough. I think so, maybe. Hopefully, they're superstitious enough to where something happens to work for them. Have you cursed MJF? Because you're not on screen. You should. I stole a scarf off screen. That was at a Comic Con. Curse him. I may have...
at New York Comic Con, done something with Kirk. I don't think I've cursed him though. I agree. It probably needs to be done. He deserves it. He does deserve it. He deserves it. Yeah. But do they feel it immediately? It's an individual experience every single time. William Reno seemed to feel it. He seemed to get electrocuted or something. Yeah. I know. Yeah. And then I got yelled at by Brian Daniels and to uncurse him. So that's why he was uncursed. How did the torn pack happen?
That was the 310 to Yuma. I don't know what their moves call. I've got all this backwards. It's the ass boys finishing move, which is the pop up flat liner. And when I come down, I landed a little bit more like this instead of this. So like the way that I came down, it's also Colton lifts me.
And then it's like a reverse rock bottom for people who don't maybe know. Okay. And Austin is a thick boy. His chest is thick. So I don't know if it's a combination of me coming down half in a pushup position, but also ricocheting off of Austin while ricocheting off of this side of Colton. So I think it just went landed weird because obviously a bunch of people have taken this move and they're fine. But yeah, I'd come down and it just,
I think I watched it and it went like this and then this part snapped off. And I didn't know. I didn't know I tore my pack because I thought when you tear your packet, like Cody's. Yeah. And I didn't as far as I knew. I had gone to the back and we thought it was just a shoulder thing because they like tested my strength and all that. And they're like, yeah, it doesn't seem like you did anything serious to it because you're able to do a bunch of like
presses and pushing and it was fine. And I was like, oh, yeah, I think I just jammed my shoulder. And then the next morning I woke up and I think this whole piece was missing, but I noticed probably because it was swollen up to time or something like from immediately happening. Luckily, that was the finish of the match.
but it rolled up into your chest? Just this. This little piece right here, I call it, it's like a wing. Yeah, yeah. It was just missing. So like instead of having this connecting my pack, it just went up and around. Body Matthews actually, he went, you're missing your pack.
in his buddy Matthews. You got a sweet scar now. Yeah, I guess so. Look at that. Some of them look gross. This one looks OK. Oh, it's pretty cool. Yeah. If you get to, you know, extend the tattoo and cover it. I could. They were also very nice and didn't cut into anything. Oh, that's true. Yeah, they did that with my, I don't have tattoos on my leg, but they seem to try to go around people's tattoos. Yeah, they did. They kind of like, yeah, they cut it right around your shoulder tattoo. Yeah, no, that.
Doctor was great. I actually went to my leg guy because the leg guy someone just landed on my leg and broke it like this was just a weird Pressing motion like I said and if I didn't feel the snap like I've always heard that if you tear a muscle you kind of feel a snap Mmm, and I just did it just hurt and it was like oh And then I rolled over and I got pinned and then I think I crawled out of the ring
which I probably shouldn't have done, but also that made me think nothing was actually like super wrong. I thought I just jammed my shoulder. Yeah. So that's how that happened. Did your moment devastating maneuver? Did your momentum start to kind of slow down because of the injury? No, not necessarily. I don't think because I try to just make everything something. So like I just kept doing videos from home. I kept doing comic book conventions. I think I still had a couple of
independent show appearances that I just did still. I think I probably just did some type of like general manager thing or managing something. Yeah, I just try to stay relevant and on still and still doing stuff. So that way I'm still in the public eye because I always think of it's out of sight, out of mind. So no, I don't think I super lost it because also I think people just rallied around me again and wanted to support like anything I was doing like, yeah, we'll just watch all of his stuff then.
It just wasn't explained when you weren't on AEW for all of 2024. I feel like there should have been some sort of. So that wasn't this. I know. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. But it feels like there should have been some sort of explanation as to like, all right, you're doing something else or, I don't know, just weren't there. Yeah. That was, I did the Halloween three segments that I was like, I want to do something fun for Halloween. Like I didn't come back.
from this probably, I think it was fine in October, but it was still kind of like given another month. So I was like, well, we could air these Halloween three style, like, annoying commercials until I come back. And I was like, cool. And then it kind of just didn't happen. Well, fans were starting to wonder if you were even still with it. Well, no, for a long time I was there, I just wasn't doing anything, which like, if you don't have anything for me, that's fine. But I feel like we need to find something for you. So you'd still be backstage?
For some of that, yes, not for all of 2024. At some point, there's an easy to stay home. And I'm like, OK, cool. That's great because I appreciate that because I'm not just getting brought out to whatever. And then they were letting me do the indies and doing the conventions. And it just helps me, again, stay sharp, which is in turn for them. And also still, I always looked at that as I'm still representing the company, then.
808, because I'm on these shows, so that's better than me just not being seen on the show. I'm still at a convention with Sting or whatever, taking pictures of Sting and posting pictures of Sting, doing that. All I could say was when people were like, oh, why, where are you at? When you're coming back and I go, I don't know, you should ask, because the more people are vocal, maybe the more there's the chance of
Oh, I got something. Well, it must have worked. Yeah. You came back at Hammerston Ballroom. Yeah. And there was a big reaction. Like there's a big reaction. You know, it's kind of seeing where that's going to go, what's going to happen. Figuring out still. But I would like to be, you know, presented on TV because I think the character is for TV. Absolutely. Like I think that
top seller lists for the last four years or whatever, like of, you know, sales on TV or not on TV. Like it's always top three or top four. I think it's always top three. You were top three this year. Top three this year, for sure. And it was three. Sting will offspring you. Yes. Pretty impressive for a guy who didn't have a TV match all year. Last year, I think was CM Punk, MGF me. Pepsi Phil. I believe so. And then I think the year before that was maybe I was number one.
I don't remember, but regardless, I feel like that should translate into television kind, which is based off of very marketable marketability. Like I've had this like, I don't know if we definitely didn't get into this the last time, but where I know there's certain aspect of or a certain section of fans where they go, well, we like the constant P W G style matches.
where that's what they like. So they don't necessarily like the Danhausen thing. And I'm like, that's fine. Wrestling is a variety show for everybody. It is for children, it is for teenagers, it is for adults, it is for the older people. And like I find a lot of like, I would say middle age people, kids and older people like me. So there's still that some section of like those people, like it's obviously everybody, there's a mix of everybody. Like those are like the three
Like my age group and then older people who liked stuff like Legion of Doom and like the characters like from the 80s, they love me. Like whenever I see legends at the conventions, it's always my favorite because it's like, you see someone like Jimmy Hart and he goes, I love you, baby. And just people like him, like it's always cool to see or demolition, like those guys get it. So that's always like a nice reminder of like, what? The godfather.
I always see him every single time he's super cool with me. Like that guy loves life. He loves it. It's like the best. He's great. Charles, just this huge personality. Yeah, I was going to call him Papa Chango. And I was like, more people might know as Godfather, but Papa Chango, Godfather. But depends what day you go to the convention, right? It's true. Yeah. He goes on both days. Godfather one day, Papa Chango, the next. Amazing. It's just, it's, it's one of those things where I go, I understand I'm not for everybody.
but also like I'm a benefit to a show because I have a lot of people who do not like wrestling like me and they buy merchandise and they will buy tickets to come to the shows to see me still and then in turn my whole idea with the Dan housing character was always oh well if you like the weird thing I'm doing that'll get you to watch the wrestling show and then you'll watch a Will Osprey.
Or, you know, something like that, you'll go, oh, I didn't know this was on here. You know, you know, something super athletic where they go, oh, wow, I didn't, I didn't realize that this was going to be on the show or like a powerhouse Hobbes. You'll only shit. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. And that's what we can all be doing. Cause like, obviously a powerhouse Hobbes is not me is not a Will Osprey. Like we all bring something different to that table. Wrestling is a buffet. Yes. Right. And I'm not going to eat everything at the buffet, but that's fine.
me neither. And I'll take the things from the buffet that I like the most. And then, but the other things are still options there for everyone else. Exactly. And that's all that that is. So like, it's just one of those things where you obviously just have to kind of take it and you're just like, okay, yes, this group of people does not like me. They don't think I should be on the show with people. That's fine.
because they're objectively wrong. Everybody has a spot on the show and everybody plays a part on the show. How do you deal with that criticism? I'm like everybody and I see some of it here and there, but I try to purposely, I don't, what is it called?
Oh, when we see this vanity searching. No, no, no, no. The four U tab shows me that plenty. There it goes. Oh, your name is in this. This person thinks you suck. You want to see this and I go, great. Thank you. But yeah, no, no, I don't do the vanity searching thing, but like you just happen to see it, especially like on a day where I come back and then it's you got a bunch of people are excited. Like for every hundred people that are excited, you'll get the one person who goes,
I wish he never came back and you go, well, that's the one I'm going to remember. It was just unfortunate, but I think it's just human nature. That's just the way we are. Yeah, which that's what sticks with you. And then it's just one of those things kind of like when I said, waking up and having to put makeup on like at eight in the morning, I go, this sucks. I go, well, I'm not waking up at five to go do a 12 hour shift that's going to be really rough. Yeah, you're not digging ditches. No. So like it is what it is. It comes with the job. It's fine. It just kind of makes me appreciate the fans that do.
Like love me even more. Yeah, which I think is how you have to just deal with that. When we did our last interview, it was so great because we were able to dive into like who you are. Yeah, how you created the character and all of that. There was a handful of people that were like, well, why do you break? Why is he out of character? And I was like, well, what are you going to do? Like we live in a world. I do it probably more than most people.
Uh, stay in care. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then every once in a while, I think it's important to do something like this to remind people, oh, no, no, this is a real person. Just every once in a while. Like, I don't do it constantly on a new weekly. Like we did the one four years ago. Yeah. And you did one with Conan. I did the Conan. Yeah. Someone was like, why didn't you do the make? I was like, because I'm not blowing that by showing up in makeup and not telling them because that's how that would have had to go.
Oh, really? Well, because they did a screening process before, which I didn't know that's what it was, where I met with one of the producers and they didn't tell me what it was for. And then they had told me like the day before, like, you're going to be on Zoom with Conan. And I was like, oh, well, I could show up in character, but like also that risk's getting kicked off. And then going, we didn't agree to this. This is weird. Like, so I was just like, no, no, no, I will just be me. And then hopefully I'll get another opportunity with him at some point to do a skit or something.
with Conan. I think it gives a greater appreciation for what you do when you're in the ring. Hopefully. Absolutely. Because I've interviewed Adam Sandler a bunch of times. I interviewed Adam Sandler. I didn't interview Happy Gilmore or the character from Big Daddy or whatever his guy from Uncut Gems, which is a masterpiece.
Yeah, I just saw that for the first time this year, or last year, sorry. You're on the edge of your seat the whole time, you're like, that's kind of on here. Yeah, it was that, it was a good time. It's just funny how wrestling sometimes operates in that world. Yeah. And then a lot of times doesn't operate in that world.
And the rules don't always apply. No, but yeah, like, which I noticed, we're not in the Undertaker's gym to do this interview. I was very disappointed. His gym is incredible. Yeah, like Undertaker is doing interviews. I don't out of care. Like he was the guy who like stuck to it for the longest time. And it's just like, well, it's a different time. Like,
What do you want from us? It's the same thing with like, I learned this from Ethan Page. He was like, do not stay in character during selling merch. He goes, it just doesn't work, don't do that. Like the only person I've seen it work for was MGF, which is yelling at people. But that's just, it's a very like, yes, that in like, it is a very rare thing.
that him just being in yelling at people constantly just worked out for him. If I was just being an annoying guy, an annoying weird guy throughout the entire thing, people are not going to come up to me and go, I don't want to deal with that. Because a lot of people also, I think, have anxiety. They don't want to talk to a person. That's how I want to be an adult talking to an adult.
But this is the thing you don't know. When you have a merch line, you don't know what you're getting with every single person. So you've kind of got to take the wheel and you drive the ship. Yes. And everyone is very different. But everyone's generally very respectful and nice and polite. You get every once in a while, there's some people, but it's rare. I thought it was a beautiful
marriage of characters when you took what you do as Dan Housing and Hook and put them together. Yeah, whose idea was that? So the first day I showed up, I think I was like, look, nice to meet you at Dan Housing. He said, they told me he was a fan of mine, which was like, oh, cool. And then I was like, we have to get a photo. And then we took a photo together that first day that I was there.
And it got like a crazy amount of likes, like for at least for me, like at the time, like you think you got like 20 or 30,000 likes, like right away, like back then. And I think someone saw that and kind of went, ooh, maybe this could work. And I also think it humanized, hook a little bit. Yeah. Because he's just again, kind of just an ass beaters, he's a son, an ass beater. Yeah.
And I think it gave a little bit of humanizing to them, which I think helps people connect with them. So like, I will always, I would love hook. I would always team with hook. Like, that'd be great. Like, I always say, like, just put me with hook again. Put me back with hook. No one saw that coming. No, no. And it was seemed loved. And then it was just kind of weird done with it. And I was like, we should just do more of it. Yeah. Because people liked it. And it wasn't like, I don't think it was done yet.
So like, I would love to have Hookhausen come back. I get asked constantly, hey, when's Hookhausen coming back? Hey, are you going to team with Hook ever again? Like, and just online people too, like there's still people with like Hookhausen stuff and like it just worked for whatever reason. How do you come up with these names like Chris Judas, Pepsi Fell?
It's just little bits of like Chris Jericho has the Judas song. So he's Chris Judas papsi Phil. He's got the the the papsi logo tattooed on him So I think some some people call him Phil and I do at the time he did not
It was like, I think it was a thing of like people were like, oh, you don't call him Phil. Don't call her like whatever. Like if you don't know him, don't call him Phil. And it was like, oh, he's Pepsi Phil. And I thought it was funny. So like as an annoying idiot, like I'd call him Pepsi Phil. I kind of think of who else there was. Obviously the ass boys. Billy ass, that one's self explanatory. That's his last name. What other names was there? No, I'm blanking, but.
RJ say, oh, rock the Dwayne Johnson. Rock the Dwayne Johnson. Which I swear, I don't know. It's in my head. It's some type of, was it the Berenstein Bears or the, what is the effect? The, uh... Oh, the Mandela effect. Mandela effect. I swear someone on the news accidentally called him that.
And I was at work and I just happened to I went, huh? And I was like, did they just call him Rock the Dwayne Johnson, like on accident, on air? And I can can't confirm if that actually happened or not, because it was just one of those things that was there and gone. And I was like, well, I'm going to call him that. Do you think the rock saw any of your stuff? He saw that. What was it? One of the Zola energy drink videos I did, because I remember I posted it and it was I took a drink of it and then we cut away and then I had the sweater.
on and I freaked out and then I reached into my pocket and I only had $7 and I screamed about being poor. Um, I think I yelled, Oh no, you drank the original Zoa and you turned into original rock. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, I think that's what it was. And then I like looked at my phone and was like, why do I have this many things? And then I clicked and I was like, Oh, the rock saw this.
Or like he retweeted it. He retweeted it with a quote. And it was, I can't remember exactly what it was, but it was ha ha ha ha. Because I think I said, oh, I need to get the PT Cruiser or something along those lines because of the shitty car that I think is a sports car. And I was like, oh, so well, that happened, I guess. That's cool. Again, it's another person that I would have loved to, you know, been able to do something with like, I think that would be funny. Just those characters who can, like,
bounce back and forth with whoever in whatever situation, whether it be someone like the rapper, Conan O'Brien or Elvira, like that type of stuff is what interests me. And I think also connects to the mainstream media to then bring more eyes on wrestling. And it exists outside of wrestling as well. You can do so many things. What are the goals that you have outside of wrestling?
and everything. We're in Hollywood right now. I know, I know. So we had done the pitches for the cartoon with Ron Funches. Me and Ron had come up with a cartoon idea for the Dan housing character with his character as well.
And that was a way to kind of explore like the powers of Dan Hausen that doesn't actually have on TV, but like thinks he has. So like, oh, he can really curse people in the show. He can really do everything the undertaker does that he can't do in real life. I don't know. The undertaker can shoot electricity from his hands. Yes. But Dan Hausen can't. No, no, not the undertaker can't do. It's just that things that Dan Hausen thinks he can do all the stuff the undertaker can do, but he can do none of them.
Yeah, we had pitched that. We had had some pitch meetings, which was cool and interesting because that was a new world to me. Unfortunately, didn't get picked up, but neither did Seinfeld right away. So I still have hope that that couple of years from now, we'll just get a call and go, Hey, we want that cartoon.
But yeah, I was going to explore like Dan Hausen is as a demon in hell and then he gets brought to earth to experience human world and try to convert more people to come to hell. But like in turn, he's very nice. So we just start kind of infiltrating like, because I do all those YouTube videos where I do like normal human stuff, but as Dan Hausen. And that was going to kind of be integrated into the show and making human connections and then going, oh, wait, these people aren't that bad type thing.
There's that, so I'd still like to get a Danow's in cartoon. I think that would work because I think the character works again for children, maybe not necessarily the hell stuff, but also Rocco's Modern Life existed.
that had hack in it. So it could work. It could totally work. But yeah, I still like that stuff. I'd still love to do something with Conan because he does that traveling show. I'd love to do just more like Alvira is on a goal. I think it might be retired as Alvira though. I don't know if she does it anymore at all.
Yeah, it would be cool to have like a children's book or something just more crossover things comic books more comic books. I did the DC cover for the Batman variant, which was awesome for New York Comic Con. I've done some image comic stuff. I've done heavy metal like I would like to do.
Godzilla, things like that. That would be cool. All of that crossover stuff, like, yes, let me do it. Let me go on these, like, the Boule brothers. They do the drag show where they have gas judges. It's like, let me do, my wife is a legitimate, like, for less dancers, like number one in the world.
Lula Duchess, you look her up, but she's won multiple awards and crowns and things like that. It's like, no, let me, I can be involved in that world, especially in the horror version. Or like, what is it? The Food Network does all of those baking shows. Yeah. And you judge stuff. Let Dan Hausen be on a Halloween episode. Well, I want to do a treehouse of horror. Like,
That, that type of stuff, like just on personal levels, like I would love John Carpenter to do a Dan Hausen theme song. Just so, just so we can say, like I would love that to be like music by John Carpenter on my Titan Tron. Like that would be awesome. Uh, you just things like that, like working with just people I look up to like would be awesome.
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because I think you're the first wrestler. I was the first. You did it before, Stinn. Yes, which was cool, but it helped him go, oh, I can do that. I don't know if he said shit, I don't know if he swears. Probably. He's the nicest guy on earth. Yeah, so we had trademarked my makeup. I think I had seen something that looked very similar to mine that we came after and I went, maybe I should try to get this. Another wrestler? No, no, no, no. I was like,
there was a magic the gathering card that i saw and i was like probably nothing
Probably nothing, but it looks very much like I was getting tagged by like just fans on Twitter and I was like Maybe I should try to get my makeup trademark. Yes You went through gimmick attorney. Yes Mike's the best So I got him to do that and I think it was like kind of a pain in the ass, but then he got it done I feel like he can and then it was probably easier for staying
Because because you're able to get mine, he knew how to do it and probably how to word things and he was able to go, hey, we can just get yours done now. So because I think mine also was probably technically easier because stings probably also had the crow thing going with it where that could have been an argument. Oh, sure. So it was probably an easier way to navigate through that, I would guess.
You told me off, Cam, where you've checked off like five or six things from the wrestling bucket list. What are those things? We've probably already talked about something, but I wanted to know specifically what they are. So I did Little Caesar's Arena. That was cool. This year, I did Japan. Sorry, I keep saying this year. It's last year.
We're like a week in a year. Yeah, you have to forgive me. What was seen as Arena in Detroit? Detroit, but it was Joe Lewis Arena originally. But that was like, that's where I saw my first rest. It was Cobo, and that was where I first saw my first WWF show, which is like a house show before Mania 97, I think. So like, literally everybody was on that show. It was like Kane, Undertaker, Stone Cold Steve Austin, DX, The Rock. Like, that was that show. I think LOD was on it. Mankind was probably on it. It was legitimately everybody from the Attitude Era.
And then the next show would have been Joe Lewis and it was Kurt Angle's debut. I want to say Xbox versus Kane. Like what he debuted against Taz? Yes. Oh, yeah. I think it was his first match. And then it was the one where Stone Cold got hit by Rikishi.
by the car. He did it for the rock. He did it for the rock. I did it for the rock. Yeah. But so that was cool to do my childhood arena. Yeah. That was where I team with FTR and we fought, I think Max Caster and the ass boys.
Um, so that was cool because all of my friends who came to my 30 people independent wrestling shows in abandoned targets in Detroit now got to come to Detroit to see me at Joe Lewis Arena and I could see all of them like obviously I was able to get a bunch of them in the front row like my mom, my dad, my sister, everybody. Um, and then my best friends. Uh, so that was really, really cool. And then I got to come out and do the post show, Tony, let me come out and like talk to everybody, which was awesome. Um, and, uh,
Trying to think of what else we've done. Oh, I did Ireland, which was cool. England, Wales, Hawaii, Alaska last year. Wow. So like, it's cool doing everywhere, but like those were some bucket lists like hard to get places sort of. I would love to go back to Japan getting an action figure. So I'm trailing off and just doing action figure. Obviously, I think we've probably talked about I collect action figures like ego. It's actually his fault. It was a bigger collection.
Me for sure. Oh, yeah, he did. I remember I texted him a photo of like five Spider-Man figures and I went, you did this. This was like five years ago or six years ago at this point. And then he just was like, ha, ha, ha. And now it's just I have all of them. And I was like, I was going to keep it. I was like, I'll keep it to Spider-Man. And then that doesn't work.
Because then you go, well, I got to get this and then this and then this. And now I have lifestyle statues in my house of aliens. I've got to xenomorph. It's like eight, nine feet tall. I love that when we get the money to be able to buy our child stupid things. That's what I do. Like with the comic books and everything. I just buy stuff that.
I wanted as a kid, but like my parents maybe couldn't afford or like I couldn't afford just didn't need at the time. I don't need them now, but I started dabbling in the wrestling cards. Yeah. So I have a few of those. I've spent far too much money on those. Yes. It's the in the comics. Like I get the slapped ones because I'm bad at taking care of stuff. So like that's a way for me to not destroy it and just set it somewhere and then ruin the.
super expensive comic book or whatever. I bought a graded back to the future VHS. Yeah, see you. Actually, I have number two and three, because number one, if you buy the 1986 original VHS, it's.
thousands. Yeah. And like some comics are like that or like these life's highest statues might be. I remember I surprised my wife with the xenomorph when we were getting the house redone. You surprised her like, this is for you. No, no, no, no. It was just in my office and she was showing a...
Someone, our house, before it was fully done, but she just went in the room and she's like, whoa. And it's the biggest thing on earth. So yeah, there's just stuff like that. I've got life-sized predator heads. I don't have a statue yet, but I'm looking. I want the life-sized Simpsons from the movies. I would like to put them downstairs because I'm building a theater. There is a place actually not far from where I live. Oh, I know. It's on eBay all of the time. I'm assuming it's the same place. It's like an hour away. Yeah.
You've got time before you're flying. I have no time to get this back though. I didn't drive it. Yeah, it's expensive. Yes. There was a time. You know the place I'm talking about? I do. I'm pretty sure I do. It's like Hollywood collectibles or something like that. Yes. I look at all their stuff all the time. I almost bought a dinosaur from them. There was a life-size T-Rex head from Jurassic Park at Comic Con last year. What? How much is this? It was like $20,000. Oh, what? Oh. It's cool, though.
You've ever walked through the, now we're really going off on the engineer. Yeah, that's fine. You've ever walked through the Las Vegas airport and they've got the big megalodon jaws? No, I don't think so. I don't think it's seen as you're heading towards like baggage claim, there's a life-size megalodon jaws and some billion dollars. Yeah, no. It's a lot of money. That is a lot of money. Yeah. I tried to cool it on the clock. I'm very rich. I am, but I still also would like to be, remain very rich.
and not just blow all of my money on things, but I do buy things that kind of appreciate and value. So what's the dream match for you that hasn't happened yet? So like trying to think immediate, I think me with a six man with me and the outrunners would be fun.
I think those guys, I could do something fun with those guys. I would still really, really like for the ass boys to fully embrace the ass and team with me. I would love to do something with Timeless Tony Storm. I know she's retired. But who knows? I think that would have been a fun, because I used to do the 1920s Dan Housing, like black and white version for old wrestling. And I was like, that could easily.
just either, whether it's me teaming with someone else to fight her and someone else or me teaming with her to fight someone. Yeah, I really, really wish I could a team with Darby and Sting. It almost happened. I think there was like a hint of it and then it just didn't. How close were you to making that happen? I think that could have potentially been an option against Max Castor and the Gun Club. And then it was we did FTR, which was great. But I think also Sting, I think is harder to get to just wrestle on a show.
I think they were saving him more for pay-per-view stuff. But Sting was always like, I would love to do something. I'm like, oh, cool. And he just said, and it was like, that's great. Like, did you sting? So hey, that's incredible. See, I'm trying to think of who else Brody King. I don't want to get beat up by him, but I think if they were to do
What they would do those what randomized tag team tournaments. Yeah, I think that would be fun. You can do very violent, very evil just for like a few weeks. House of Black could always be fun with Dan Howson because we have the very evil Dan Howson, which I created to be a cactus Jack. Like that's the cactus Jack to the dude love mankind in my mind. Like, yeah, when you came out as that, it was like, Oh, this is dark.
It's also a way to do a more serious match if need be, which you could do with me anyway. Like I always make like there's the Takamichinoku versus Triple H match. Like there's that they're just they just put out the jigiri Triple H match from Japan, I believe, on the
the vault or whatever it is. But that stuff can work. It just needs to be built to. But yeah, I created that to be a cactus jack. So you can have those moments if need be. I could theoretically team with House of Black in a serious match. But I could also team with House of Black in a not serious version where it's me being shitty evil.
and they are real evil. So like that could work. Brody King is one of my best friends like in wrestling, like an out of wrestling. So like I would love to do something with him, whether it be unfortunately getting beaten up by him or but theoretically teaming with him would be great. There's a lot of matches out there you still haven't had yet. There's so many. I'm trying to think of who else, sorry, I'm going off on a
There are so many good people, like Pac is awesome, Claudia was awesome, like me getting swung as Dan Howes and I think would be hilarious, just screaming. Yeah, there's just, there's so much and then like the Bullet Club gold would be, I was gonna say gold, but I didn't mean to say it that way. Just because it has the ass boys, Juice Robinson is such a character. And then Jay White plays a great straight guy, but also again, he's one of those guys who does comedy very well, but he knows when to do it.
Since people have been staring at these tattoos for the last hour, let's talk about some of these. What do we got? There's an alien. Alien? Hellraiser? No, what? No, no, no. There's just an alien from that. Okay, so you got an alien? I had to show this to Lance Hendrickson from aliens. He plays Bishop. He was very nice. I drove him around in a little cart.
Yeah. I got the forbidden donut from the Simpsons. Forbidden donut. I got Dr. Doom. I've got itchy and scratchy. Oh, man. Classic. There's Nosferatu. There's a creature. I don't think about else. Weird thing. Yeah.
I love the Simpsons as much as you love the Simpsons. That was my go-to show. When you're flipping channels before the guide, you're flipping channels. What else am I going to watch? 5 p.m. to 6 p.m. Simpsons is on. Absolutely. I don't know what time it would have been here. Or you were in Canada. Actually, I grew up in Toronto. It's only the same thing. It was.
Five to six. I would wait because I'd get home from school like three forty five. Yeah. You watched him throw away to you until five o'clock. And then the Simpsons hour block. Simpsons. Every single time. I quote the Simpsons all the time. I do it without realizing it. And then if someone says, do a quote from the Simpsons, I go, ah, I, I. Promulant usually comes to my head immediately. Oh, a crime in the word. It makes us all.
I always, we would do all you can eat wings when I was growing up and pickering Ontario at Shagwals, which I don't think exists anymore. And we would always come back to, did these sound like the actions of a man who's had all he could eat?
There's so many good ones. That's how I became friends with my friend David and Nick was just Simpsons quotes. He found out I like the Simpsons, and then we would just, I think, text them back and forth at work, and then eventually just turned into like a full... So good. Full thing, full friendship. I'm also a communication studies major, so there's that quote in the Simpsons where it's like, I know, I know, it's joke degree!
Well, you're communicating with me right now. You seem pretty successful at it. Good to be able to catch up with you, man. I'm going to wrap this up with a question. I didn't ask it. I wasn't doing it at that point in time. Gratitude is such a big part of my life. What are three things in your life that you're grateful for right now? My wife for being okay with me being gone. Not all of the time. I'm generally home.
four-ish days a week, which is kind of a lot, but sometimes I'm gone for like, she'd be like, no, no, no, if you need to go do something that's very important, like, please go do it. That's great. It's like a very fortunate to where I'm successful at enough at this now to where I can just be like, hey, like if you don't want to take a show, like a burlesque show, like you're just taking it to make extra money or whatever, like you don't have to. Like you could just do the ones that are cool to you.
Or if you want to go do Sweden, she's done Europe and stuff for that. So she's able to have the freedom to just do whatever she wants now, which is what I think is great, especially creatively, because she makes costumes and everything also. So she has time to do all of that if she wants to. If she wants to do all these shows still, she can. But if she wants to just do cool ass festivals,
or like specific shows. Great. You can do that if you want to go to Sweden and do some shows or England or wherever. Awesome. So I'm grateful for her for just kind of like propelling me up. And I don't want to say allowing me to do that because it's not like, oh, you're allowed to do that. It's just like pushing me forward. Yeah. So that, like your cheerleader. Yes. Yeah. Supporting. Yeah.
My best friends, they've helped me film everything, my shitty films, but that's the charm of it. But they've been with me, like I said, since I worked in a movie theater in 2008, I think. So like, I like to
Keep those with me who've been supporting me like I like to bring them up with me as much as I possibly can like I can't get them on TV probably but like I can do all my other extra stuff with them still and make them on screen characters for my YouTube show still and all of that which I know like my the fans who like really really watch my stuff like they love that so like I like to bring everyone up with me who's been supporting me and just friends with me like
I've been friends with Ethan Page forever. So I'm always, it doesn't matter if he's in another company. I'm always gonna be friends with him. You know what I mean? I think that separates a lot of people. Because I know some people just be like, I can't really talk to you anymore. It's like, why? I don't feel like we're in that era of wrestling anymore. Hopefully it's less. But I don't like that. I think it's just be friends with who you're friends with. And stick with them and have their back. They'll have your back. It's great.
Um, so I'm grateful for all of my friends and all of them who've been helped me like come up and everything. Uh, and then obviously my family, like they, again, like this is a no particular order, I guess. Cause the minute that I feel bad that I put someone here and here and here. Obviously like I would not have this character without like my mom and my dad, like just, you know, encouraging me to read comic books or my dad showing me horror movies or like dressing me up for Halloween or my mom used to paint like,
All of that stuff, like watching cartoons with them, like showing me Disney movies, which led to whatever, like voices and things like that. So, yeah, it's just, it's probably very generic three answers, but also, what are you gonna do? That's the answers. Before we wrap it up, can you do the thing? The voice? The thing. The curse? What? I didn't do it.
I mean, what if we took off that now we can't take off the CG guys to expect very nice very evil there it is that one So cool. I'm weird. I'm all weird on this. Oh, thanks, man. Thank you
Alright, thank you to Dan Housing for joining us in the studio and for the extremely expensive CGI that made him look and sound like a human during the interview.
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https://cvvtix.com - Tickets are on sale now for INSIGHT LIVE in Toronto & Las Vegas with VIP Meet & Greet! Chris Jericho (@chrisjerichofozzy) is a professional wrestler currently signed with AEW. He sits down with Chris Van Vliet at West Coast Creative Studio in Hollywood, CA to discuss his legendary professional wrestling career, how he feels about the state of professional wrestling in the modern era, being in the business for 35 years, his thoughts on the "Please retire" chants from the fans, why competition is good in wrestling, John Cena's year-long retirement tour and if he has thought about retirement, what he is most proud of since the start of AEW, the catchphrases that worked and those that didn't, the Dinner Debonair segment with MJF and how it was nearly changed at the last second and more! Quote I'm thinking about: "You only have one life, so you should live it as beautifully as you can." - Eddie Van Halen Please support our sponsors! PURE PLANK: The future of core fitness! Use the code CVV to save 10% on Pure Plank which was designed by Adam Copeland & Christian: https://gopureplank.com/?ref=tibcloux TIMELINE: Go to https://timeline.com/insight33 to get 33% off your order of Mitopure while supplies last ORGAIN: For 30% off your order, head to https://Orgain.com/INSIGHT and use code INSIGHT SQUARESPACE: Head to https://www.squarespace.com/INSIGHT to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code INSIGHT VUORI: Get 20% off your first purchase! Get yourself some of the most comfortable and versatile clothing on the planet at https://vuori.com/cvv ROCKET MONEY: Join Rocket Money today and experience financial freedom: https://rocketmoney.com/cvv HUEL: Get 15% off plus a FREE Gift for NEW customers with the code INSIGHT at https://huel.com ZOCDOC: Instantly book a top-rated doctor today at https://zocdoc.com/insight BONCHARGE: Use the code CVV to save 15% off your infrared sauna blanket at https://boncharge.com/cvv BLUECHEW: Use the code CVV to get your first month of BlueChew for FREE at https://bluechew.com RHONE: Rhone’s premium performance clothing is made to move you. Use code CVV to save 20% at https://www.rhone.com/CVV MANSCAPED: Get 20% off plus free shipping when you use the code CHRISVAN at https://manscaped.com PLUNGE: Get $150 off your Plunge with the coupon code CVV150 at https://plunge.com For more information about Chris and INSIGHT go to: https://podcast.chrisvanvliet.com If you have ever enjoyed any of these episodes, could I ask you to please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcast or Spotify? It takes less than a minute and makes a huge difference in helping to spread the word about the show and also to convince some hard-to-get guests. Follow CVV on social media: Instagram: instagram.com/ChrisVanVliet Twitter: twitter.com/ChrisVanVliet Facebook: facebook.com/ChrisVanVliet YouTube: youtube.com/ChrisVanVliet TikTok: tiktok.com/@Chris.VanVliet Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
February 06, 2025
AskCVV #68 - Royal Rumble Predictions & Surprises, Jacob Fatu, Charlotte Flair's Return

Insight with Chris Van Vliet
Chris discusses his predictions for Royal Rumble including surprise entrants and answers listener questions about Triple H wrestling again, Charlotte Flair in the Rumble, favorite non-Rumble match at the Royal Rume, Jacob Fatu's promo on SNME, off-season for wrestling. Quote: 'To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all.' by Oscar Wilde.
January 31, 2025

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