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In this episode of the ThriveTime Show, hosts Clay Clark and Chup discuss the intriguing notion that IQ is not an accurate predictor of success. They delve into insights from Pastor Scott Anderson, who co-pastors Living Word Church in Arizona and runs a successful knife company. This discussion is meant to empower entrepreneurs by emphasizing mindset over intellect in achieving success.
Key Concepts Discussed
1. IQ vs. Success
- The myth of intelligence as a marker of success: Pastor Scott challenges the common belief that a higher IQ leads to greater success, stating that societal surveys show wealth is more about problem-solving abilities and risk-taking.
- The Corridor Principle: Scott explains that as individuals take risks and step out of their comfort zones, opportunities begin to present themselves—opportunities that they could not see while remaining inactive.
2. Shifting Mindsets
- Overcoming limiting beliefs: Scott highlights that many people remain stuck in their circumstances due to a mindset believing they are victims, waiting for the right moment or conditions to act.
- Accountability in actions: Emphasizing personal responsibility, Scott states, "If it isn't my fault, if it's the job, the spouse, or the economy, there's no reason to change." This mentality prevents growth and personal development because it shifts blame onto external factors.
3. Practical Steps to Take
- Start Small: Scott recommends starting with small, manageable business ventures rather than diving into large-scale projects. This gradual approach allows entrepreneurs to learn the ropes and adapt their strategies without overwhelming risks.
- Implementing Systems: The importance of having systems in place that lead to accountability helps businesses thrive. From workflows to performance evaluations, structured processes contribute to operational efficiency.
4. Real Success Stories
- Pastor Scott’s journey: He shares his experience growing up in a family focused on ministry with a history of poverty, detailing how their faith and hard work led to their success today. His personal anecdotes serve as inspiration that success is attainable, regardless of background.
- Insights from other business leaders: Throughout the podcast, references to successful entrepreneurs like Tim Ferris and cultural shifts highlight the necessity of surrounding oneself with positive influences to reinforce a successful mindset.
Practical Applications for Entrepreneurs
- Actively seek opportunities: Instead of waiting for favorable conditions, entrepreneurs should actively pursue their goals, understanding that action leads to discovery.
- Adopt a positive mindset: Cultivating an uplifting internal dialogue can dramatically alter outcomes. Engaging with positive thoughts can shift perceptions and ultimately help one overcome challenges. As Pastor Scott mentions, through faith and affirmation, individuals can reshape their realities.
- Focus on personal growth: Continuous learning and adapting to new strategies, whether through business workshops or personal development literature, are essential for sustained success.
Conclusion
This episode encapsulates the belief that success stems not merely from intelligence but from taking proactive steps towards one’s goals, cultivating a positive mindset, and embracing personal responsibility. Pastor Scott Anderson's experiences provide valuable lessons for entrepreneurs willing to break free from limitations and pursue their aspirations relentlessly.
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On today's show, Pastor Scott Anderson of Living Word Church shares why your IQ doesn't necessarily determine the level of success that you will achieve. Why you cannot win until you decide to stop being a victim.
and how he's able to co-paster one of the largest churches in Arizona. I'm talking about a four-campus church called Living Word Church while also running simultaneously a successful small business. All this and much, much more.
Some shows don't need a celebrity narrator to introduce the show. But this show dies. Two men. Eight kids co-created by two different women. Thirteen multi-million dollar businesses. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the thrine time show.
Here we go!
Yes, yes, yes, and yes. Thrive Nation on today's show, we have a very special guest, a man by the name of Pastor Scott Anderson. He is the pastor of, pastor of Living Word Church, which he leads along with his wife, Holly Anderson and pastors Jason and Kelly Anderson.
I first encountered Pastor Scott in the year 2006 Chup and I was my company DJ connection was providing sound equipment for a speaking event in Dallas. I believe maybe Anatole Hotel somewhere. I don't remember where it was. Maybe it was Tyler, Texas. It was somewhere in Texas and I saw this guy speak and I thought to myself, oh, that's good. And then I saw him speak somewhere like, oh, that's really bad.
The pen is running out of ink here. I'm taking notes everywhere. I was like a like a modern scribe taking notes because his brain was giving us so many knowledge bombs per capita. The fire hose, the fire hose of knowledge. And so now we've caught, we've caught the unicorn. Pastor Scott, how are you, sir?
I am doing amazing. How y'all been today? Well, I'm honored to have you on the show. I know you have 4,500 people who attend your campuses. So you probably have a lot going on. And I thank you for taking an hour out of your time. You guys are, you guys are busy busy. Can you share with the listeners out there so that they have a little background, a little look into your background. When did you start living word church and tell us the process of building such a great church?
Well, my parents started it in 1986 and I graduated from college in about 93 came on and me and my brother both basically ran the church so my parents could just
speak and focus on teaching and then about five years ago the torch. On today's show, Pastor Scott Anderson, a living word church, shares why your IQ doesn't necessarily determine the level of success that you will achieve.
while you cannot win until you decide to stop being a victim. And how he's able to co-paster one of the largest churches in Arizona. I'm talking about a four-campus church called Living Word Church while also running simultaneously a successful small business. All this and much, much more. Some shows don't need a celebrity narrator to introduce the show.
But this show dies. Two men. Eight kids co-created by two different women. 13 multi-million dollar businesses. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the thrine time show. Now, two, one. Here we go. Starting from the bottom now we hit. Starting from the bottom then we'll show you how to get hit. Starting from the bottom now we hit. Starting from the bottom now we hit.
Yes, yes, yes, and yes. Thrive Nation on today's show, we have a very special guest, a man by the name of Pastor Scott Anderson. He is the pastor of Live of Pastor Living Word Church, which he leads along with his wife, Holly Anderson and pastors Jason and Kelly Anderson.
I first encountered Pastor Scott in the year 2006 Chup, and I was my company DJ connection was providing sound equipment for a speaking event in Dallas. I believe maybe Anatole Hotel somewhere. I don't remember where it was. Maybe it was Tyler, Texas. It was somewhere in Texas, and I saw this guy speak, and I thought to myself, oh, that's good. And then some speak somewhere like, oh, that's really bad.
Penn is running out of ink here. I'm taking notes everywhere. I was like, I got like a modern scribe taking notes because his brain was giving us so many knowledge bombs per capita fire hose, the fire hose of knowledge. And so now we have caught, we've caught the unicorn. Pastor Scott, how are you, sir?
I am doing amazing. How y'all been today? Well, I'm honored to have you on the show. I know you have 4,500 people who attend your campuses. So you probably have a lot going on. And I thank you for taking an hour out of your time. You guys are, you guys are busy busy. Can you share with the listeners out there so that they have a little background, a little look into your background. When did you start living word church and tell us the process of building such a great church?
Well, my parents started it in 1986. And I graduated from college in about 93, came on. And me and my brother both basically ran the church so my parents could just speak and focus on teaching. And then about five years ago, the torch was passed. And so now I've been the lead pastor for about five years.
And I mean, my brother had built a campus, a couple campuses during that time ourselves and had a couple of our own services we're doing, but we took it all over about five years ago. And what was your childhood like being raised in a family where you had a family in ministry? What was that like growing up? Were you, how would you describe that? We started, you know, we were broke when my parents got saved. We come from generations of very, very, very poor people. My mom comes from
Very broke at home with use everything and you know, they got saved and God began to work on their life And you know, I like to say we went from glory to glory to glory meaning life's just got better every year You know when we got our we moved out to Arizona and our little trailer Man, that was nice and then we got our house and you know 900 square feet and now we're living now We're like and then we got 1200 square foot house and then a 2000 and you just see that my parents were growing and the Lord grown in their wisdom and
Great parents of course who you know they didn't do the same thing generations before did they you know marriage was hard and it was worked but they worked on it and today they're married 50
one year. Wow. Still in love with each other. Yeah, you don't even want to be around them. They just kiss and they make it out all the time. It was in love. This is where I want to focus on today's showchup because you have so many things you could talk about Pastor Anderson. But Scott, I love how you talk about renewing
your mindset or changing your mind to becoming intentional about this new mindset and that's really where I want to focus today. Can you talk to us from your book you wrote financial success has nothing to do with a person's IQ or with a person's gifts in talents? What do you mean by that? You know, I think that we think that what the smarter you are, you know, the more successful you be, but you come to find out when they went through and they were
doing all the surveys and all the studies on it. That wealth had nothing to do with how smart somebody was, it had nothing to do with where they started off from, background had not to do with social economics, male, female. The one thing that they did find out that it was your ability to solve problems and it was your ability to take risks. And it's called the corridor principle. It's in a million or a half, it's in 21 days.
They researched all of these people that graduate from this college and to find out who went from the business school to find out who, you know, went on to not just be average, but to go on and be highly successful. And they found out the only difference between those that were average and those that went on to be highly successful were the ones that stepped out and took a risk. And they came up with the corridor principle, which means this, as I step out,
opportunities in this quarter of stepping out begins to present itself to me, things I never would have saw had I not stepped out. So many people are sitting around, they're waiting for, well, you know, when I have the money, I'll start a business or what I have this and when I have the, and so they're waiting for all these things to present itself. But what they find out is you begin to step out. Everything begins to present itself to you as you're stepping out. My daddy always says, you can't steer a bike.
That's not moving. You got to get moving. Too many Christians are sitting around waiting for God to drop Jericho in their lap, but God says, no, you're going to do some laps. In order to get Jericho, we're going to have to do some stepping. And I don't know how many laps are going to be one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, but you have to be willing to be that person that's willing to step out. You read that nine out of 10 businesses fail and the average mind goes, well, why would I start a business?
Uh, somebody who is well-minded goes, you may not only have to start 10 businesses to become successful. Well, that's not bad. Cause it doesn't matter that the first business, the second business failed, the third business failed. It's the fact that that 10th business soared. Uh, I have, and I found that out, you know, I started 15 businesses and I've had two very successful business. I had a toy company and
Now my knife company is very successful. And so, yeah, I took me 15. What's company nine or what's the one that's doing very well, the most recent one for you that's doing well? That's Ravencrest Tactical. And so that's my knife company. And we started about seven years ago in my garage. And now we're all, you know, we're one of the biggest knives in the OTF or which is out the front. And so we're about
I think we're number three right now in OTF knives. We, of course, if you search out OTF knives, we're on the first page at Google. And yeah, that's the company. I took everything that I knew when I put it into that one, and it really exploded fast.
What I wanted to do was I wanted to argue with Pastor Scott here, but here's it. You can't respond for 60 seconds. Okay. So you take it because there's somebody out there listening. Not that the devil needs an advocate, but I'm going to give her a whirl here, Chuck. So here we go. Here we go. Ready.
Just because Abraham Lincoln didn't have a degree or the guy who started Bank of America, AP, G&E didn't have a degree or Andrew Carnegie who started the steel industry didn't have a degree or just because Benjamin Franklin didn't have a degree or Bill Gates didn't have a degree who created modern software just because
Bill Gates, I mentioned him, what about Steve Joss? No degree, Debbie Fields, Fields Cookies, no degree. Just because Dave Thomas didn't have a degree, and just because Frank Lloyd Wright didn't have a degree, and just because Mark Zuckerberg didn't have a degree, and just because Henry Ford, who changed the automotive industry, didn't have a degree, and just because John D. Rockefeller didn't have a degree, who changed the oil industry, and just because
Larry- Larry- Larry- Erosin didn't have a degree and just because Milton Hershey didn't have a degree and Michael Dell it doesn't mean you're right you still have to have a ton of intelligence to start a successful company and you have to have a ton of degrees
feel free to argue i think you i think you did all the argument right there i just feel like a lot of people don't know that i think a lot of people don't know that and so they end up in what happens is is the college is an industry and so the people feel like i get the degree now all these opportunities will present so i want you to i want to go back to what you said you said you have to take action to enter the corridor with the opportunities present themselves
I think in Clay Stairs, you see this, and I want to get your take on this after we have Scott. You see people taking the wrong actions. They go, oh, as a result of this podcast, I need to get my MBA. Tell us about the right kind of actions we need to take to enter this corridor that you speak of. I believe that starting a business is the action. And I believe that I talk about different levels of business. I think one of the big problems people have is they try and start what I would say a level four business.
So they sell their foil, okay, house, pull all the money out, and they go start a restaurant. To me, that's a level four business, and those businesses go under all the time. What you do is you start a level one business, and let's say you have a chimichongo recipe that's just amazing. And so you're like, all right, here's what we're gonna do. Because what happens is, is I start level four, I don't have the wisdom and the understanding to back up that business. I have to grow with my business, so I have to start small.
I start a little chimichanga business and maybe I'm going to sell it at the kids' sporting events. I look around at pop-o-owner football and I get myself a little table. I'm selling my chimichanga's there thing. I find out what the good price is. I find out how to get, negotiate better deals on the produce and on the tortillas and everything that I need. And I learn how to work it. And maybe after a year, I take in that money and now I'm ready to open another one. Maybe I have a couple of them.
And maybe then I buy a cart, one of the little $5,000 carts. So now I got a little bigger cart. So now I'm level two. And so now level two, and then you go to level three. So you see that you grow a business with you. So I started my knife company out of my garage and off we go. I'm putting knives together, building them. We're going to gun shows around doing them local, kind of get the word out. And so my business grew to the point now that we have what 12 employees
And, uh, we got, I don't know how many salespeople all over America right now selling my knives. You know, Clay Stairs, uh, you're, I'd like for you to share with, uh, Scott, your background and really the age at which, at which you grasped and you understood what he's saying now. Can you explain with him your, your background and when you became an entrepreneur? Yeah. Yeah. Uh, Scott, hi, this is Clay Stairs. It's very nice to meet you, sir. Hey, Claire. And, um,
Yeah, I grew up in a ministry family as well. My mom and dad, Don and Shirley Stairs, started Shepherd's Fold Ranch, which is a summer camp in Retreat Center, just north of Tulsa, back in 1972. So, you know, I grew up in a mobile home, 13 years growing up in a mobile home out in the middle of nowhere. Literally high. Yeah, exactly. And so I learned early on how to ask for money.
You know, I learned that if I needed more money, you ask for it. Hi, man. And he got the money. Exactly. Exactly. If we needed more. And I even saw that in the business world, because I was, I was immersed in the business world of the ministry. And if we needed more money, you asked for it. And then after graduating from school, I became a school teacher.
And I was a public school teacher for 15 years, loved it, had a great time doing it, but once again was immersed in that culture as far as if you needed more money, well, you have to get a grant. You have to go out and ask for it. You got to go after the school board and say, give us more money. Give us more money.
And for some reason, those efforts just weren't working in age 47. Yeah. Yeah. So then I came back and ran the, I actually ran my parents company for 10 years, but I was 47 years old. Scott, before I began to learn these principles of how to actually build and grow a business and how to actually make money.
What kept you from making that jump clay stairs? Why did it take you to age 47 to get the concepts that Scott teaches? Well, again, I think going back to Scott, your point, I think my mindset was very limited in my belief system. My BS was, my BS meter was very high. And I didn't know, I never did feel like wealth and success was available to me.
Scott, you've written in your book, you wrote, whatever you believe with conviction, your mind will move heaven and earth to make true. How do you fix your mindset if you believe with conviction that you don't have what it takes? How do you fix that? You got to read it. You know, flipping is talked about that for getting the past and moving on to the future. And what that that when you look it up in the Greek and Hebrew, it really means to transpose
your future over your past. And so we all have a recorder in our mind that plays. And a problem comes and a lot of people go up. There's another problem. I don't know if we're going to make it past this one. I don't know what I'm going to do. How come everything goes against me? This is the recorder that a lot of people I find is what plays in their mind. I feel a problem. I'm like, oh, praise God. As James talks about kind of all joy when you have a problem because it builds up your faith and gets you the place that you lack nothing. And so you have to get yourself
re-recording, whether they come by faith, come by hearing and hearing the Word of God. And so I believe in taking scriptures, I can do all things through Christ's use that strengthens me. That which is born of God will overcome the world.
I'm blessed when I go in. I'm blessed when I go out and you re on today's show. Pastor Scott Anderson, a living word church shares why your IQ doesn't necessarily determine the level of success that you will achieve. Why you cannot win until you decide to stop being a victim.
and how he's able to co-paster one of the largest churches in Arizona. I'm talking about a four-campus church called Living Word Church while also running simultaneously a successful small business. All this and much, much more. Some shows don't need a celebrity narrator to introduce the show.
But this show dies. Two men. Eight kids co-created by two different women. Thirteen multi-million dollar businesses. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the thrine time show. Now, two, one. Here we go. We started from the bottom down here. We started from the bottom down here. We started from the bottom down here.
Yes, yes, yes, and yes. Thrive Nation on today's show, we have a very special guest, a man by the name of Pastor Scott Anderson. He is the pastor of, pastor of Living Word Church, which he leads along with his wife, Holly Anderson and pastors Jason and Kelly Anderson.
I first encountered Pastor Scott in the year 2006 Chup and I was my company DJ connection was providing sound equipment for a speaking event in Dallas. I believe maybe Anatole Hotel somewhere. I don't remember where it was. Maybe it was Tyler, Texas. It was somewhere in Texas and I saw this guy speak and I thought to myself, oh, that's good. And then I saw him speak somewhere like, oh, that's really better.
The pen is running out of ink here. I'm taking notes everywhere. I was like, I got like a modern scribe taking notes because his brain was giving us so many knowledge bombs per capita. The fire hose, the fire hose of knowledge. And so now we've caught, we've caught the unicorn. Pastor Scott, how are you, sir?
I am doing amazing. How are y'all doing today? Well, I'm honored to have you on the show. I know you have 4,500 people who attend your campuses. So you probably have a lot going on. And I thank you for taking an hour out of your time. You guys are, you guys are busy busy. Can you share with the listeners out there so that they have a little background, a little look into your background. When did you start living word church and tell us the process of building such a great church?
Well, my parents started it in 1986. And I graduated from college in about 93, came on. And me and my brother both basically ran the church so my parents could just speak and focus on teaching. And then about five years ago, the torch was passed. And so now I've been the lead pastor for about five years.
And I mean, my brother built a campus, a couple of campuses during that time ourselves and had a couple of our own services we're doing, but we took it all over about five years ago. And what was your childhood like being raised in a family where you had a family in ministry? What was that like growing up? Were you, how would you describe that? We started, you know, we were broke when my parents got saved. We come from generations of very, very, very poor people. My mom comes from
Very broke at home with you so everything and you know they got saved and God began to work on their life And you know I like to say we went from glory to glory to glory meaning life's just got better every year You know what we got our we moved out to Arizona in our little trailer man That was nice and then we got our house, you know 900 square feet now. We're living now We're like and then we got 1200 square foot house and there are 2000 and you just see that my parents were growing in the Lord growing in their wisdom and
Great parents of course who you know they didn't do the same thing generations before did they you know marriage was hard and it was worked but they worked on it and today they're married 50
one year. Wow. Still in love with each other. Yeah, you don't even want to be around them. They just kiss when they're dead. Take it out all the time. It was in love. This is where I want to focus on today's show, because you have so many things you could talk about, Pastor Anderson. But Scott, I love how you talk about renewing
your mindset or changing your mind to becoming intentional about this new mindset and that's really where I want to focus today. Can you talk to us from your book you wrote financial success has nothing to do with a person's IQ or with a person's gifts in talents? What do you mean by that? You know, I think that we think that what the smarter you are, you know, the more successful you be, but you come to find out when they went through and they were
doing all the surveys and all the studies on it, that it was, had nothing to do with how smart somebody was, had nothing to do with where they started off from background, had not to do with social economics, male, female. The one thing that they did find out, that it was your ability to solve problems, and it was your ability to take risks. And it's called the corridor principle. It's in a million or a half, it's in 21 days.
They researched all of these people that graduate from this college and to find out who went from the business school to find out who, you know, went on to not just be average, but to go on and be highly successful. And they found out the only difference between those that were average and those that went on to be highly successful were the ones that stepped out and took a risk. And they came up with the corridor principle, which means this, as I step out, opportunities
in this quarter of stepping out begins to present itself to me, things I never would have saw had I not stepped out. So many people are sitting around, they're waiting for, well, you know, when I have the money, I'll start a business or what I have this and when I have the, and so they're waiting for all these things to present itself. But what they find out is as you begin to step out, everything begins to present itself to you as you're stepping out. My daddy always says, you can't steer a bike. That's not moving.
You've got to get moving. Too many Christians are sitting around waiting for God to drop Jericho in their lap, but God says, no, you're going to do some laps. In order to get Jericho, we're going to have to do some stepping. And I don't know how many laps are going to be one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, but you have to be willing to be that person that's willing to step out. You read that nine out of 10 businesses fail and the average mind goes, well, why would I start a business?
Somebody who is well-minded goes you may not only have to start ten businesses to become successful Well, that's not bad because it doesn't matter that the first business second business fail the third business fail is the fact that that 10th business sword I have found that out, you know, I started 15 businesses and I've had two very successful because I had a toy company and
Now my knife company is very successful. And so yeah, I took me 15. What's company nine or what's the one that's doing very well, the most recent one for you that's doing well? That's Ravencrest tactical. And so that's my knife company. And we started about seven years ago in my garage. And now we're all, you know, we're one of the biggest knives in the OTF or which is out the front. And so we're about
I think we're number three right now in OTF knives. We, of course, if you search out OTF knives, we're on the first page at Google. And yeah, that's the company. I took everything that I knew when I put it into that one, and it really exploded fast.
what i wanted to do was i wanted to argue with a pastor scott here but here's that you can't read you can't respond for sixty seconds okay so you take it because of somebody out there listening but i will not that the devil needs an advocate but i'm gonna give a world here chup so here we go
here we go. Just because Abraham Lincoln didn't have a degree or the guy who started Bank of America APG and he didn't have a degree or Andrew Carnegie who started the steel industry didn't have a degree or just because Benjamin Franklin didn't have a degree or Bill Gates didn't have a degree who created modern software just because
Bill Gates, I mentioned him, what about Steve Jobs? No degree, Debbie Fields, Fields Cookies, no degree. Just because Dave Thomas didn't have a degree and just because Frank Lloyd Wright didn't have a degree and just because Mark Zuckerberg didn't have a degree and just because Henry Ford who changed the automotive industry didn't have a degree and just because John D. Rockefeller didn't have a degree, he changed the oil industry and just because
Larry- Larry- Larry- Alison didn't have a degree and just because Milton Hershey didn't have a degree and Michael Dell, it doesn't mean you're right. You still have to have a ton of intelligence to start a successful company and you have to have a ton of degrees.
feel free to argue i think you i think you did all the argument right there i just feel like a lot of people don't know that i think a lot of people don't know that now and so they end up in what happens is is the college is an industry and so the people feel like i get the degree now all these opportunities will present so i want you to i want to go back to what you said you said you have to take action to enter the corridor with the opportunities present themselves
I think in Clay Stairs, you see this and I want to get your take on this after we have Scott. You see people taking the wrong actions. They go, oh, as a result of this podcast, I need to get my MBA. Tell us about the right kind of actions we need to take to enter this corridor that you speak of. I believe that starting a business is the action. And I believe that I talk about different levels of business. I think one of the big problems people have is they try and start what I would say a level four business.
So they sell their flow, okay, house, pull all the money out, and they go start a restaurant. To me, that's a level four business, and those businesses go under all the time. What you do is you start a level one business, and let's say you have a chimichongo recipe that's just amazing. And so you're like, all right, here's what we're gonna do. And because what happens is, as I start level four, I don't have the wisdom and the understanding to back up that business. I have to grow with my business. I have to start small.
I start a little chimichanga business and maybe I'm gonna sell it at the kids' sporting events. I look around at Pop-A-Warner football and I get myself a little table. I'm selling my chimichanga's there thing. I find out what the good price is. I find out how to get, negotiate better deals on the produce and on the tortillas and everything that I need. And I learn how to work it. And maybe after a year, I take in that money and now I'm ready to open another one. Maybe I have a couple of them good ones.
And maybe then I buy a cart, one of those $5,000 carts. And now I got a little bigger cart. And I'm level two. And so now level two, and then you go to level three. So you see that you grow a business with you. So I started my knife company out of my garage and off we go. I'm putting knives together, building them. We're going to gun shows around doing them local, kind of get the word out. And so my business grew to the point now that we have what 12 employees
And, uh, we got, I don't even know how many salespeople all over America right now selling my knives. You know, Clay Stairs, uh, you're, I'd like for you to share with, uh, a Scott, your background and really the age at which, at which you grasped and you understood what he's saying now. Can you explain with him your, your background and when you became an entrepreneur? Yeah. Yeah. Uh, Scott, hi, this is Clay Stairs. It's very nice to meet you, sir. Hey, Claire. And, um,
Yeah, I grew up in a ministry family as well. My mom and dad, Don and Shirley Stairs, started Shepherd's Fold Ranch, which is a summer camp in Retreat Center, just north of Tulsa, back in 1972. So, you know, I grew up in a mobile home, 13 years growing up in a mobile home out in the middle of nowhere. Literally high in your boat. Yeah, exactly. And so I learned early on how to ask for money.
You know, I learned that if I needed more money, you ask for it. Hi, man. And he got the. Exactly. Exactly. If we needed more, and I even saw that in the business world, because I was, I was immersed in the business world of the ministry. And if we needed more money, you asked for it. I mean, and, uh, and then after graduating from school, I became a school teacher.
And I was a public school teacher for 15 years, loved it, had a great time doing it, but once again was immersed in that culture as far as if you needed more money, well, you have to get a grant. You have to go out and ask for it. You got to go after the school board and say, give us more money. Give us more money.
And for some reason, those efforts just weren't working. And age 47. Yeah. Yeah. So then I came back and ran the, I actually ran my parents company for 10 years, but I was 47 years old, Scott, before I began to learn these principles of how to actually build and grow a business and how to actually make money.
What kept you from making that jump clay stairs? Why did it take you to age 47 to get the concepts that Scott teaches? Well, again, I think going back to Scott, your point, I think my mindset was very limited in my belief system. My BS was, my BS meter was very high. And I didn't know I never did feel like wealth and success was available to me.
Scott, you've written in your book, you wrote, whatever you believe with conviction, your mind will move heaven and earth to make true. How do you fix your mindset? If you believe with conviction that you don't have what it takes, how do you fix that? You got to read it. You know, flipping is talked about that for getting the past and moving on to the future. And what that that when you look it up in the Greek and Hebrew, it really means to transpose
your future over your past. And so we all have a recorder in our mind that plays. And a problem comes and a lot of people go up. There's another problem. I don't know if we're going to make it past this one. I don't know what I'm going to do. How come everything goes against me? This is the recorder that a lot of people I find is what plays in their mind. I feel I see a problem. I'm like, well, praise God. You know, as James talks about kind of all joy when you have a problem because it builds up your faith and gets you the place that you lack nothing. And so you have to get yourself
re-recording, whether they come by faith, come by hearing and hearing the Word of God. And so I believe in taking scriptures, I could do all things to Christ Jesus strengthens me. That which is born of God will overcome the world. I'm blessed when I go in, I'm blessed when I go out. And you reprogram your thought process so that when things don't go exactly the way that you want, what you immediately hear is that voice in your head that says, hey, we can do this with overcome bigger things. There's no big deal. We got this with God.
And all of a sudden, my faith begins to go forth and drive me to the future that I desire, rather than the future that a lot of people limit themselves with, because I was hearing what you were saying, and you had a limited mindset. That's what you find a lot of people. This is, you know, this is as high as I can go. I can't. I talk to people. I don't know if I can do a business. I don't know if I could, you know, I don't know if I can write a book. I don't know. And, you know, if you go off on what you told, because my English teacher literally said that my parents and myself,
he shouldn't even go to college uh... the boy can't write uh... was to be honest with his brain and never get into school brandon work and i think that's it you know what ever more books that she's written mmm there you have it there you go nice okay so this is what i want to get to chop i want to throw in some secular knowledge for all of our our secular clients out there so uh... tim ferris who is a best-selling author silicon valley investor uh... best best known for writing the four-hour work week and having one of the world's
highest ranked podcast. I will say that we're slightly ahead of Tim right now, but he is one of the world's top rated podcast. I think right now, Shepard number two on the iTunes charts right now. And Tim Ferris is
a huge entrepreneur, very successful. And he writes, you are the average of the five people you associate with the most. So do not underestimate the effects of your pessimistic, unambitious, disorganized friends. If someone isn't making you stronger, they're making you weaker. And he goes on to explain that basically if you're around people that are all not doing well,
than the self-talk in the out loud talk the overall con conversation is always one of poverty it's always one of disorganization it's always one of dysfunction and if you surround yourself with positive people pastor craig roschel going back to christian reference pastor craig roschel who we just had on yesterday uh... pastor the largest church in america life church right now
He explained that neuroscience shows you actually are creating new neural networks and new parts of the brain. You're beginning to retrain your brain. So it is a, some could say a spiritual thing. Some could say it's a physical thing. The point is it's a thing. You got to retrain your brain to think.
differently and you wrote in your book, you quoted Nathaniel Emmons, I believe it is the renowned theologian who once wrote, he says, habit is either the best of servants or the worst of masters. Why did you include that quote in your book? Because it get like I said, your belief system makes up most of your decisions, which is your habits, you know, your habit of thinking, your habit of
how you deal with problems, your habits of taking risks, your habits and relationships. And you don't even realize that you ever, you know, we're in the process of moving right now. And in that process, I drove to my old house without even thinking about it. It's just, it's just in your mind goes on cruise control. You're trying to open the garage and you're like, Oh, what am I doing? That's not my house anymore. And the same thing, people wake up and they have the same bad attitude. They have the same way that they
deal with their spouse, the same way that they treat their money, the same way they think about money. And all of these things are shaping your future. And so you got to reprogram. And I love the whole neuro, those ways, because the more you think something, those neuro connectors, they expand, they say almost a thousand times. But as you stop thinking it, they begin to shrink. So if you have negative thinking, all you have to do is stop thinking negative, which is going to take about 21 days is what I say in my book.
That's how long it takes to force a new habit. And for 21 days, just be conscious, wake up in the morning, put it in front of you. OK, I'm not going to think naked. I'm going to think positive. This is going to be a great day. Yeah, I can do this. I can handle this. All right, I'm smart. I'm intelligent. I have whatever I put my hands to today is going to be prosperous. And you begin to force yourself to think that before long you open up those connectors and your mind naturally flows like water down to the ones of the biggest openings. I like to say that you got two dogs in your mind.
You got a positive dog and you got a negative dog. Whatever you feed the most is going to be the loudest. Most people are feeding the negative ones. So that's the one that's making all the noise, but the positive dog never gives any food. And so if I can just switch it around and feed that positive dog for 21 days, all of a sudden the loudest voice I hear in my head is, yeah, you can do this. Yeah, you can handle this. Yeah, this is going to be good. Everything's going to turn out great. And that is the voice that's shaping your future.
I, uh, uh, Chup, you've seen this, but in our office, like not every day, but occasionally like once a month, once every few months during certain seasons, the power will go out in a big thunderstorm. Yep. And Scott, it's about a 20,000 square foot facility there. There's lots of employees and the power will go out, you know, during the big tornadoes are coming through or stormy weather in the Oklahoma, a big booming thunder and the power will go up and Chup, you've seen this, but I had to train myself to do this, but whenever the power goes out, I know that you gain strength through struggle and that setbacks are set up. So you'll always see me go.
Yes, yes, because literally there's like 50 big screens that are all turned off at once all the computers 50 employees are immediately without thinking they can't do anything and I'll just go minimum of a dozen yes client meetings at you see the office It's hilarious though because people are in the building they don't know what we're doing, but there's like if I say yes chup, right? I'll go
Yes. What happens next? Everybody yells, yes. Yes. Then pretty soon we're singing like T.D. Jakes. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Talking about yes, yes, yes, yes. So it's a thing where you, I mean, I used to get upset by those things. Oh, come on. But I had to retrain myself in one thing that you wrote about, you wrote in your book. I didn't agree with it, so I highlighted it.
i went home i said i thought about it and i did not agree with it and i wrestled with it in my mind for probably too long i'd say about a week i wrestled with this i didn't go on social mean argue with you i didn't send you an email and argue with you never even told you i was upset about it but this is what i read and i get it but the time i was like this doesn't make sense you said if it isn't my fault if it is the job the spouse the economy
There's no reason to get better, no reason to change. And I agreed with you on the job and the economy part, but the spouse part, I've been married 17 years. And I noticed that every 30 days I make my wife crazy. And I can say, honestly, our marriage is so much better now than we first got married. I mean, it's getting better every year, but I used to want to like figure out what she could do better and never look at like, I'm the problem. But now I've trained my brain. Anytime she's upset, I go, what did you do to me to myself? Right.
Can you talk to me about this? This mind said that if it isn't my fault, if it is the job, the spouse, the economy, there's no reason to get better, no reason to change. It's like, I believe it's law number one in my video to have its book. And it all starts with that because if it's not my fault, then there's nothing to change, which means that everything in the world, then I just have to take whatever the world offers me. And it's kind of like being in a river and the stream is taking you down.
And yeah, I know it's moving you down, but if you just sit in there and just go, well, wherever I end up, I end up. No, I'm the guy that's going to be, I'm going to be swimming to the side. I'm going to be grabbing a log and be doing whatever I can. So for many people, they're driving through life and life is in the driver's seat and they're in the passenger seat and they're headed for a cliff. They're headed for a tree. They're headed for something. That's not where I want to be. I want to be in the driver's seat and many people need to just scoot on over and go, all right, I got this, you know,
I had a bad child and I did it. But you know what? That's not going to affect my future. I still can do these things. And as you begin to take accountability for your life, your subconscious begins to go, oh, we need to change. But as long as it's not your fault, then your subconscious goes, well, there's nothing we can do. We just got to accept whatever life offers us, whatever life throws our way is what we're going to have to accept. And life is very stingy. So you have to go take life. How do I take life? I'm going to go, hey, you know what? If I want to be wealthy,
then I'm going to have to read some books. I'm going to have to get some wisdom in there. I'm going to have to learn to start a business or write a book or buy some land, buy some investments. I'm going to have to learn because there's billions of ways to make money. Every day I'm meeting people that made a ton of money and in some of the weirdest ways. And I'm like, wow, that's cool. OK, there's a lot of ways in which you can attain great wealth. But I just sitting back and going, well, let's see what happens is not one of them.
I've got to take accountability for my life. And the same thing for marriage. You have to change the one thing you have the power to change. You cannot change your spouse. You can't change your job. You can't change jobs. You can't change your boss. You can't change the economy. You can't change. But I can't change me. I can change how I look at my job. I can change how I act on my job. I can change my marriage. I can change my attitude on my marriage. I can change about how I talk about my spouse. I can change. There's a lot of things that I can change, which then ends up changing my life.
Chuck, you got a hot take? Yeah, I had a question for you, Pastor Scott. I was, we're talking a lot about, you know, taking action and solving problems and changing your mindset. And I wanted to get your take on how important is it to set big goals in your life and then use those goals, not just set them, but actually use them daily as kind of the rudder to your life ship to make sure you don't drift away and you're actually going in the right direction. Oh, that's so good. And I think that we limit ourselves. So I believe in having, you know, of course,
big limitless gods in which, you know, I can't do on my own. And then, of course, you have your daily goals. You have your goals, that thing that I want to accomplish this year, this month, this day. And whether is no vision dreams perish. And another translation of that is whether there's no visions, you lack parameters and boundaries. So until I get a vision, I have really, my life just seems to go whatever direction it wants to go. But as soon as I have a vision,
Boundaries and parameters seem to spring up and it forces me. My belief system, we had to force me towards my vision. Great example, a lot of people who ever bought their first house, they get to that place where they're like, oh, we want to get a new house. And they go down, they come up with, let's say, $5,000 down payment. Now, these are people who, up into 23 years of their life, 28 years of their life, they have $183 in the bank.
But in the next six months, they find a way to cut the corners, they find a way to cut back, they find a way to save the work extra. Cut their own hair. At the end of six months, they have $5,200 in the bank. The vision produced the parameters that they needed in order to produce what the vision was. And so we've got to have the vision. I like to say we finished before we start.
You have to finish things, which means what, that I already see it done. Once I see something done, then I just have to fill in all of the blanks on there. We do it all the time, but just not when it comes to business, when it comes to life, but of money.
If you want to go on a trip, you don't just get in the car and go, all right, we're going to go wherever the world, you know, she freaked out. I have two. I have a question for you quick about this. You're you and your wife. I'm sort of cut you off. I just want to skype it cut out there for a second. You and your wife have done this ministry together for a long time.
And there's somebody out there that's thinking right now, they're going, it must be awesome being a pastor chop. You just get up there one day a week and you talk about how just people love you. People should always love you. Look at him, but I'm out there working, man. Now, I want to talk about the, I want to get into the trenches because I actually work with a lot of pastors. Our organization helps grow a lot of churches from a marketing perspective. Right. And you have 4,500 people that attended. I'm sure you have the best people in the world and you never
ever get hate on social media. You've never ever said something that people feel logically disagreed with. You've never had a bad YouTube comment. Other churches. They've other charges. So what advice would you have? My church is perfect. What advice would you have for the other pastors and the other churches, the ones out there? I'm sure not yours where they have negative feedback
back because they're going, I'm trying to be positive, man, but I was easier to be positive in the nineties when I didn't have social media. But now I'm getting negative comments daily. I'm getting pelted with 85 interruptions a day. What advice would you have for the business owners or pastors out there who are dealing with negative hate on social media? I think it works the same way in both. I mean, literally was meeting today with, um, at the knife company, just, you know, social media can be mean.
And, uh, you know, it's just, you know, people are haters, you know, there's people they don't like themselves, but they just want to hate. And I think it's, uh, I stay away from it. You know, I just be the best I can and preach the best message. And I love people and I love my enemies. And I, I have found that, you know, responding to the, to the hate doesn't do any good. It just escalates. And it's just, I just love, just love seems to always win.
And, you know, Joel's team who's got one of the largest churches. You Google him and a lot of people hate him. And I'm like, I do hate Joel. My God, every day is a Friday with Joel, but people hate. And you know what? You have to remind yourself that Jesus was hated and he had no sin. He did. He taught right. He healed people. He did a lot of good things.
Jesus was hated so much that they crucified him right then people are gonna like me and if people if everybody likes you you ain't doing something right there you go you know what I'm gonna do chop is I'm gonna I'm gonna break down I had audio chop of what they actually how they decided to kill Jesus these guys got together they thought so he does everything right he's a saving people he's healing people he's sinless so why don't we kill him right yeah
I mean, that's what Martin Luther King Jr. They're like, so he's trying to end the circle. He sounded like to you. We love the Patriots. We really love the Patriots. A lot of us. We got to kill them. No, but I think a lot of people, though, it's like they love to hate. So I want to get to the Joe Osteen thing. You mentioned this. My attorney, Wes Carter, his law firm, Winters and King, has represented brother Osteen in the past.
And this is the hate that I get in Tulsa, Oklahoma about Jollosteen. This is what I hear. You know, he has the globe when you tune in to the Jollosteen show, you know, to the sermons. He'll say, Hey everybody, welcome. And there's the globe. There's no cross there. And I've heard him explain to Oprah or it was on an interview where he explained that, you know, it more people will tune in if they don't immediately see a cross in their face. And he always starts with a funny joke and people will rip his jokes. And then he always ends with a call to find a good local church.
but how i mean how do you want when so many rights on your social media and they write just like to do with jolo stein i don't like this sermon pastor scott does not know what he's talking about this guy's not a nut do you ever respond at all do you respond at all or what do you do you know arm and i don't know if this is how weird that i'm sure i get it i think my social media team uh... if it's on the church website i think they uh... maybe take those off
uh... i never get it on my personal uh... stuff i can't imagine that that i'm not but i do see like you know we have a few people right now that are out there social media and you know they're a big part of the church they left the church and they're they're saying that without naming names you read it you go well obviously they're talking about me uh... you know saying and so you see that but i haven't seen my name so i haven't had to cross that bridge okay i think that if it does show up
It's just smart. You know, we can do that if you want to. Now we do have Facebook bad reviews here and there that are on there.
uh... but most of the market do you want to take your job do you want to take your joy for even ten seconds i'm asking is because psychology today says the average american is interrupted eighty five times a day on social media and they're saying that the average american is actually coming depressed as a result of reading what other people are saying about them on social media the comparison the jealous either how long do you let some upset you thirty seconds never at all i mean what would you when you get a negative thing to me i love this person i literally
I believe in being unoffendable. So I, I, I, I spy very hard, uh, to be very unoffendable. If it lasts a few seconds, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not okay with that, uh, because people can't, you know, I know who I am. I'm trying to be better. I know I have my mistakes. I don't think that I'm not, you know, I know, I know I get it. And, uh, but you know what? I'm pressing forward. I forget those things are for behind. I'm like Paul.
Paul who says, you know what, I have wrong, no man. Well, Paul, you have, you kill people, but you don't follow. So I think that it's just having that mindset that people, once again, it's a lot of accountability. We talked it earlier. I have control over my emotions and I have control about what I let in. And I choose only to let the positive in. I choose to only let myself talk positive about myself. It's interesting how many people, you know, they walk throughout the day.
And the person they spend the most time with themselves is the one that is putting them down. Well, if I had to hang out with myself, I might as well enjoy myself. And I enjoy being encouraging. I enjoy being lifted up. And so.
That's the life that I live and I feel like it's a happy enjoyable exciting life And so somebody says something negative. I just go you know people people We love people, you know, what do you do you wrote your book? You wrote your book you said I don't get anything if you don't get anything else out of this chapter You said if you don't get anything else out of this chapter
Let it be that circumstances have no control over your happiness. There's somebody out there who is letting circumstances dictate their happiness. Preach the good news, encourage somebody out there. If they're just letting circumstances, like my dad died of ALS two years ago, not a good circumstance. But years ago, I probably would have dwelled on it and probably not have been able to get over it, you know, but didn't really have
But I encourage somebody out there who's at the bottom right now who just they're letting circumstances control their happiness. I think that your life will begin to go up when you begin to realize that emotions don't have the power over me, but I have the power over my emotions and that circumstances also done. We're going to have everybody has stuff that happened in the day. We all have stuff.
and i think the it sometimes the world system whatever you want to call it makes it think that especially on social media you know you see somebody you know the picture the family all the kids are smiling and everybody's happy and loving the heart and you're like well how come i can't have that well you don't get to see five seconds earlier where the mom's like if you guys don't shut up and take a picture i'm gonna kill someone i can get in the photo i'll rip your head off your face now
You're right. You don't see everything. And then you get the couple on there every time they take a picture, they're holding hands and they're having a little picnic. You're like, well, how come my husband doesn't give me a picnic? Well, because it doesn't do it either. Like their life is just happy, you know, blissful. We never fight type of things. And so we live in this world of comparison.
And I'm comparing my inconsistencies and the negative in my life with your perfect one second moment. And that's not a good comparison. But I always don't get into that comparison. Just focus on me and realizing that, you know what, there's going to be some things that happen that aren't going to go exactly the way that I want them today. That's all right. You don't have power over my joy. You don't have power over my attitude. My attitude begins to overcome my circumstances.
rather than my circumstances overcome my attitude. And it goes back to the beginning of retraining that belief system inside of you where you really do believe that you're like Paul in the Bible. Who Paul says, you know what? I'm happy when I'm shipwrecked. I'm happy when I'm not shipwrecked. I'm happy when I'm in jail. I'm happy when I'm not in jail. I'm happy when I'm saving lives. Right. And he's like, and if I die, I'll be happy. If I don't die, good. I got more things to do here in earth. And so
The devil, the world, everything goes, OK, we can't affect him. No matter what happens. I mean, he's in jail. He's like, great, I can write. He's not in jail. He's out saving the world. He's shipwrecked. And so that has to be our mindset. No matter what happens, I have a story of one of my books where wake up in the morning, the basement has three foot of water in it. And so oh my gosh, I just put all the computers in the house on the floor. I was cleaning up the counters. I'm dealing with that. And while we're doing that, it's real hot in the house.
And I'm trying to figure out why. What's going on? Well, there's not coming on. So I called the air. See guy come out. He comes out. And so I'm dealing with all that. And then just I get an IRS thing, some weird old thing in the mail. And so I'm like, oh my god, you know, it's like Saturday. So I'm like, what in the world's going on with that? And then I got a cool photo radar of me. Also, the city of Mesa decided to take my picture and send it to me. But it's later the day I'm talking to my mom and she's like, so how's your day? And I go, oh, it's a great day.
And she paused and she goes, well, didn't your basement was all flooded, right? Yeah. She goes, and you're AC? I go, yeah, I need a new unit, like five grand. She's like, okay, you got the tax name. I'm like, I don't know, that's things. She's like, eh, the photo I go, yeah, maybe it's not a great day. I'm going out with the kids and the family today and whatever. It's still going to end up being a great day. I don't let problems, little problems in my day affect the fact that I'm going to have a great day.
So I have annoying things that happen, but I still have a great day every single day of my life. And that's a life worth living. And when you begin to do that, you go to bed every night and it was another great day. We had some speed bumps, but it was a great day.
Chuck, I know that you've never coached a client who has a negative mindset. I certainly know that I never have. I've heard rumors of clients, of people that would say, somebody wrote a bad review about me on Google, and I swear I'm going to find the IP address and rip off the head, and I will show it to them on a spike. And you're like, is it legal to kill people in your city? I mean, but we work with businesses all over the world. And we see people, honestly, and I have to coach if that's part of the coaching is kind of
Let it flow. Let it go. Jump control. What question do you have a pastor Scott? Hot tick. Yeah, I was gonna see if we could get a little nuts and bolts here kind of kind of go behind the scenes a quick Pastor Scott. Okay, we I've known multiple and we've coached a lot of pastors and a lot of times they have a hard time keeping their volunteers on task or holding them accountable Do you have like a philosophy or do you guys kind of hold your volunteers accountable? Do you fire?
Do you have a lead pipe? Do you have a guy named Joe with a lead pipe? Like, what's your kind of philosophy on holding accountable and managing volunteers? This is good. That is a really good one. And, you know, it's, we got like 25 years of learning and growing, you know, because when I came onto the church, whatever, how many years ago, 25, 26 years ago, you know, I ran all the volunteers at the time and, you know, the church was at 400 at the time. And then we
grew to where we are today, and I don't know how many volunteers we possibly have. So I went through the thing, you know, hey, volunteers are late. Hey, let's blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I think that was kind of under the thinking that people don't want to be great volunteers. But I think I've evolved into some bad people that are volunteering. They want to be great. They want to be good. They want to do better. And they have things in their life and stuff.
Our job is to inspire them. And if they showed up, we're going to love on them. And, you know, we're going to try and just show them how to be great volunteers with our leadership, you know, our head usher, our head reader, our altar call, people that we're training in the midst. And so if you show up, we're happy. You showed up. Good for you. It's all right. You know, of course, we're going to deal with this.
you know you're not sure you were a tank top which we're not going to have that i forgot to wear pants i didn't know you know it's no one said i had to wear pants wasn't in the description unbelievable this this used to be a good church i mean sir so just like let's just say that let's just say as an example let's say you have a praise and worship leader okay they're the leader
Okay. And they, you know, and you're, you're paying them. Okay. They're a leader. They're, they're, you're paying. Oh, that's different. And they're, and I know your churches would never happen, but other churches. No, no, no, no, no. And they're supposed to be there at nine o'clock for rehearsals because church starts at 10 30 or something like that. And this person is intentionally late, always by 20 minutes, 18 minutes, people are waiting on them every week. There's, there's traffic. There's an issue they didn't know. I forgot. There's a miscommunication. I'm so emotional. How do you handle people that are intentionally being
unaccountable and they're late all the time and you're paying them. And you're paying them. That's where you have their little sit down and you teach them and train them. But you know, there comes a point if you're on staff, you know, you're supposed to do all things under the Lord. And if it hinders the gospel being preached in the church or it hinders our ability to touch lives, that's a big deal. So we like to show them the big purpose. All right. When you're late, this is how many lives that are affected. But ultimately,
It has the power to affect maybe somebody getting saved because the enemy is looking for anything they can when a new person walks through those doors to put a wall up or a wedge up. And so we can't be that and we can't allow that. So, you know, we'll have that discussion. If it doesn't immediately change, then we're just going to have to move you and
I hate to remove. That's a very, that's a last last thing, but you know, maybe you're going to have to be a backup singer for a while. You know, there are life has consequences. And if you can't live up to the responsibility, then then we're going to have to move you to a place that has less responsibility until you can handle the responsibility. I would like you to share this with there's another. There's a pastor out there listening. There's pastors I've talked to. I wouldn't say hundreds at our conferences, but I could say dozens. Yeah. Who've asked me this question? I want to get your take because you're a multi-campus guy. They will say, yeah.
I have a church of let's say 1,000 people and our building is debt-free. This is very normal. A lot of pastors will be stuck at about 500 to 1,000 people. They're debt-free and they want to open another campus in another town. They want to do that. But in order to do that, they're going to either A, acquire some debt and the church can then make payments and pay it off over 10 years, or B, wait until they're 74. And then when they're 74, they can open up the second campus.
Um, what advice would you have out there as it relates to debt and growing a church or maybe, maybe more applicable, a nonprofit for people out there? Are you okay with some level of debt to open up another campus or do you believe it should be debt free? What is your take on that? My friend. I believe there's good debt. There's that debt. Um, you know what I'm saying? And so you got to, you got to weigh all of that out. A good debt is something that it's an investment.
So let's say to, you know, you want to start up a campus in a storefront and, you know, you're going to have to come out of pocket to be able to do it. And it's going to be, you know, $4,500 a month. And you're going to have to get chairs for that. And hopefully, in your lease, you worked out a buildout. So you're not going to have to pay for the buildouts for, for in there. But you're still going to have to have sound equipment. You're still going to have to have lighting. You're going to have to have a stage built to have all that. And you come up.
You know, we're going to, we're going to need to be able to start this campus. I think we started, I would take you campus for a little under $100,000. So you got to come out, you're going to invest $100,000. And then you got to look at it. And it's all about research, making sure that, okay, we believe, if you believe in it, that it's a good investment. You go out there, you start it, you take $100,000 worth of debt. And it. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Robert Kiel, Secretary of State Radio Show. Today I'm broadcasting.
from Phoenix, Arizona, not Scottsdale, Arizona. They're closed, but they're completely different worlds. And we have a special guest today. Definition of intelligence is if you agree with me, you're intelligent. And so this gentleman is very intelligent. I've done this show before also, but very seldom do you find somebody who lines up on all counts as a Mr. Clay Clark is a friend of a good friend, Eric Trump.
But we're also talking about money, bricks, and how screwed up the world can get in a few and a half hour. So Clay Clark is a very intelligent man. And there's so many ways we could take this thing. But I thought, uh, since you and Eric are close, Trump, what were you saying about what Trump can't, what Donald, who's my age and I can say, I cannot say what first I have to honor you, sir. I want to show you what I did to one of your books here.
There's a guy by the name of Jeremy Thorne, who was my boss at the time. I was 19 years old, working at Faith Highway. I had a job at Applebee's Target and Direct TV. And he said, have you read this book, Rich Dad Poor Dad? And I said, no. And my father, he rest in peace. He didn't know these financial principles. So I started reading all of your books and really devouring your books. And I went from being an employee to self-employed to the business owner to the investor.
And I owe a lot of that to you, and I just wanted to take a moment to tell you, thank you so much for allowing me to achieve success. And then I'll tell you all about Eric Trump, but I just want to tell you, thank you, sir, for changing my life. But not only that, Clay, you know, thank you, but you become an influencer. You know, more than anything else, you've evolved into an influencer where your word has more and more power. So that's why, uh,
congratulate you on becoming. Because as you know, there's a lot of fake influencers out there too, or bad influencers. Anyway, I'm glad you and I agree so much, and thanks for reading my books. That's the greatest thrill for me today. Not a thrill, but recognition is when people, young men, especially come up and say, I read your book, change of life, I'm doing this, I'm doing this, I'm doing this. I learned that the Academy, King's Point in New York, Octa Non-Verba.
Watch what a person does, not what they say. Whoa! Hey, I'm Ryan Wimpy. I'm originally from Tulsa, born and raised here. I went to a small private liberal arts college and got a degree in business. And I didn't learn anything like they're teaching here. I didn't learn linear workflows. I learned stuff that I'm not using. And I haven't been using for the last nine years.
So what they're teaching here is actually way better than what I got at business school. And I went what was actually ranked as a very good business school. The linear workflow, the linear workflow for us and getting everything out on paper and document it is really important. Like we have workflows that are kind of all over the place, so having linear workflow and seeing that mapped out on multiple different boards is pretty awesome. That's really helpful for me.
The atmosphere here is awesome. I definitely just stared at the walls figuring out how to make my facility look like this place. This place rocks. It's invigorating. The walls are super, it's just very cool. The atmosphere is cool. The people are nice. It's a pretty cool place to be. Very good learning atmosphere. I literally want to model it and steal everything that's here at this facility and basically create it just on our business side.
Once I saw what they were doing, I knew I had to get here at the conference. This is probably the best conference which someone I've ever been to in over 30 years of business. You're not bored. You're awake alive the whole time. It's not pushy. I'm trying to sell you a bunch of things. I was looking to learn how to just get control of my life, my schedule, and just get control of the business.
planning your time, breaking it all down, making time for the F6 in your life and just really implementing it and sticking with the program. It's really lively. He's a pretty friendly, helpful, very welcoming. I attended a conference a couple months back and it was really the best business conference I've ever attended. At the workshop I learned a lot about time management, really prioritizing what's the most important.
Biggest takeaways are, you know, you want to take a step-by-step approach to your business. Whether it's marketing, you know, one of those three marketing tools that you want to use to human resources. Some of the most successful people and successful businesses in this town, their owners were here today because they wanted to know more from clay and I found that to be kind of fascinating. The most valuable thing that I've learned is diligence. That businesses don't change overnight. It takes
time and effort and you got to go to the ups and downs of getting it to where you want to go. He actually gives you the road map out. I was stuck didn't know what to do and he gave me the road map out step by step. You've set up.
systems in the business that make my life much easier allow me some time freedom. Here you can ask any question you want they guarantee it'll be answered. It does conference like motivates me and also give me a lot of knowledge and tools. It's up to you to do this. Everybody do these things. There's stuff that everybody knows but if you don't do it nobody else can do it for you. I can see the marketing work
And it's just an approach that makes sense. Right, the most notable thing is just the income increase that we've had. Everyone's super fun, it's super motivating. I've been here before, but I'm back again because it motivates me. Your competition's going to come eventually or try to pick up this tag. So you better if you know somebody else will. I'm Rachel with Tip Top K9 and we just want to give a huge thank you to Clay Vanessa Clark.
Hey guys, I'm Ryan with Tiptop K9. Just want to say a big thank you to Thrive15. Thank you to Make Your Life Epic. We love you guys. We appreciate you and really just appreciate how far you've taken us. This is our old house. This is where we used to live. Here we go. This is our old neighborhood.
So this is my old van and our old school marketing and this is our old team. And by team I mean it's been another guy. This is our new house with our new neighborhood.
This is our new van with our new marketing and this is our new team. We went from 4 to 14 and I took this beautiful photo. We worked with several different business coaches in the past and they were all about helping Ryan sell better and just teaching sales which is awesome but Ryan is a really great salesman so we didn't need that. We needed somebody to help us get everything that was in his head out.
into systems, into manuals, and scripts, and actually build a team. So now that we have systems in place, we've gone from one to ten locations in only a year.
In October 2016, we grossed 13 grand for the whole month. Right now, in 2018, the month of October, it's only the 22nd. We've already grossed a little over 50 grand for the whole month, and we still have time to go. We're just thankful for you, thankful for Thrive and your mentorship, and we're really thankful that you guys have helped us to grow a business that we run now instead of the business running us. Just thank you, thank you, thank you times of thousands.
So we really just want to thank you, Clay, and thank you, Vanessa, for everything you've done, everything you've helped us with. We love you guys. If you decide to not attend the Pride time workshop, you're missing out on a great opportunity. The atmosphere plays often. It's very lively. You can feel the energy as soon as you walk through the door. And it really got me and my team very excited.
If you decide not to come, you're missing out on an opportunity to grow your business in the bottom line. I love the environment. I love the way that Clay puts sense and teaches. It's a way that not only allows me to comprehend what's going on, but he explains it in a way to where it just makes sense. The SEO optimization, branding, marketing, I've learned more in the last two days than I have the entire four years of college.
The most valuable thing that I've learned, marketing is key, marketing is everything. Making sure that your brand did accurately and clearly how to grow a business using Google reviews and then just how to optimize our name through our website also. Helpful with a lot of marketing, search engine optimization, helping us really rank high in Google.
The biggest thing I needed to learn was how to build my foundation, how to systemize everything and optimize everything, build my SEO, how to become more organized, more efficient. How to make sure the business is really there to serve me as opposed to me constantly being there for the business.
new ways of advertising my business as well as recruiting you forward. Group interviews number one. Before we felt like we were held hostage by our boys, group interviews is completely eliminated because you're able to really find the people that would really be the best fit. Hands-on how to hire people, how to deal with community resources, a lot about marketing and overall just how to structure the business, how it works for me and also then how that can translate into working better for my clients.
The valuable thing I've learned here is time management. I like the one hour of doing your business is real critical if I'm going to grow change. I want to teach you how to navigate through those things and not only find freedom, but find your purpose in your business and find the purpose for all those other people that directly affect your business as well. Everybody. Everybody. Everyone needs to attend the conference because you get obligated to see that it's real.
Hey, Fly Ever family, come join us June the 27th and 28th 2024 in Tulsa, Oklahoma. We're going to be there with Clay Clark, an amazing group of individuals that have made such a difference in so many people's lives. Do you want to increase your production in a job? Do you want to make more sales? Do you want to own your own business? Do you want to have breakthroughs financially? The key to that is knowledge.
Clay Clark is anointed to help people in business. We've watched him over the last couple of years and we've been blown away. He's part owner of over 160 businesses, $2.4 billion in sales.
So before politics and the great reset came into Clay's life, he had the number one rate of Apple podcast and any interviewed people like Anthony Robbins, Seth Godin, the top authors, top business minds in the world. At this specific event, there was an interesting cast of characters that come from gangster, American Idol. Some of the guests that are going to be there. Michael Levine, Colton Dixon, Peter Taunton, John Lee Dumas, Mondo de la Vega.
and Tim Tebow, they're there to share what they've done and their breakthroughs in what their story is and then Clay lays his map of business success calls the path for every person to follow.
So you may be sitting there thinking, OK, OK, I get it. I get it. What do I have to do? Go to thrivetimeshow.com. When you get there, the tickets are $250 or whatever you can afford. Yes, you got that right. $250 or whatever you can afford. You can name your price. So there are no excuses. You have to join us there.
There are only a few VIP tickets left, like David said, special dinner and special time with the speakers. That is $500 why they last. So $500, only a few left if you want a VIP ticket. We want to meet these speakers as well, so we got VIP tickets. I want to meet Tipty, Bo. I do too. The date is June the 27th and 28, 2024 in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Go to ThriveTimeShow.com to get your ticket.
Hey guys, Luke Erickson here with the Thrive Time Show. As you can see behind me, we've got all kinds of energy going on. People are starting to show up for the conference and it is hot in this place. We've got grill guns over here. We've got people playing the drums. We've got a fire breather and man people.
We'll offer this gate to auto stream. This house is packed. We've got air and answers for strong voters up there. We've got sneezing our intent on building the context of where we're talking about what is possible when you just implement any information. What do they do that proves it's so exciting and one of the people are going crazy. Now, Michael and the people. I heard many, many people are most the man who represents me. Michael and the actor.
We just wrapped up day one. It was incredible. We had some remarkable speakers, Michael Levine. We just finished with a lady named Jill Donovan, who owns a company called Rust at Cuff talking about the power of the Dream 100. I cannot wait to see what tomorrow holds.
Hey guys, Luke Erickson with the scribe time show here with you. It is day two and the energy is high. People are so excited to be showing up. The team is ready. Come on, let's see what it's like to go on in for day two. Follow me. Hey, what? People are so excited to be here for day two. It is going to be incredible. Cannot wait to see what today has in store.
in into groups going over search engine optimization I know for most of us myself included to ensure that term but what is that what does that mean that's too techy for me well our experts are breaking it down for people so that you can clearly understand how to come up top in Google it's doable it's possible
now we're in the middle of a break and what we like to do is we like to give you as much tangible and relevant information from about the start of the hour for 45 minutes then we take approximately a 15 minute break to allow people to connect with other entrepreneurs around them bathroom break and also use this time to just really digest all of the good information that you receive from
Right behind me, we've got Bob with his grill gun, melting and ice sculpture. It is awesome. The ice sculpture represents our life, right? It's here for a time, but we all need to have the sense of urgency to implement the things that we're learning so that we can make the most of the time that we have.
We are outside, you can see a line behind me. What's going on is that we partner with different companies to help them implement the proven systems over and over and over again. And one of those companies is Master Machine. And so what we like to do is partner with these companies to also help them give samples to other people as they come to the conference and truly get their name out.
some of the amazing things that have happened today. We've had entrepreneurs like all hoods and hood CPAs. We've had Jill Donovan and Michael Levine come up and just impart so much wisdom and knowledge. We've got an incredible giveaway for one of our TV's.
Hey there Thrive Nation, one of the things that we love most about our business conferences is that we want every entrepreneur to leave with their questions answered. So what we do is we let them put the questions up on the board here so that they can ask their specific questions and play will not end the conference until every question is answered.
and is answering all the different questions that entrepreneurs have brought to the conference. Whenever someone comes here and starts to hear this information, especially for the first time, it just brings about so much anticipation of wanting to actually implement the proven systems and processes. And so Clay always wants to make sure that he answers all of the questions. He's there for the most set of videos to be able to go home and start improving. If you have any questions, email us at info at www.tribetential.com.
Hello, I'm Wes Carter. I'm one of the shareholders at Winters and King. My favorite thing that Thrive has helped me accomplish here in our firm is thinking a little bit outside the box. They do SEO, they do printing, they help us with a lot of things from the day to day marketing for the firm, but they also help us think of things that as attorneys, we probably wouldn't normally think of that help us market our services to our clients.
One of the things I love about working with Thrive is that they make it enjoyable to actually do work with them. It's not dry, it's usually fun, but it's always very enjoyable and practical. They give me things and ideas that I can put into place that's not just some theoretical
that they give me. We get practical steps that we work on together to do my job better. So me personally, I would easily recommend Thrive 15 services to my friends, my families. I recommend them to my clients. I think they do a good job. They're passionate. They care about their clients. And I think it's actually a valuable service they provide to people that are in the business world.
My name is Jeff Thomas. I'm originally from Atlanta, Georgia. It's all about getting to the grindstone. It is about putting the...
It's one thing to have a specific vision or a dream, but knowledge without application isn't knowledge at all. So that's nothing. Really funny, the atmosphere is very lively. Everybody that is working for clay is very oblique and not tired, not sluggish, not complaining, not wanting. They don't have anything to do with those types of characteristics.
It's all about getting to the grind and having fun while you do it.
I haven't actually been to any conferences in the past, but what I will say from what I've seen on YouTube and what from other friends have told me is this isn't like a motivational kind of thing to just, you know, hoo hoo rah rah get you motivated, but it's like practical steps that if you do take them, which most people aren't willing to do, then you will grow and you will achieve the specific things that you want. Well, for one thing, I would say that this isn't necessarily for everyone. So if you're not willing to work,
this isn't for you. But I will say that if you are willing to work and you know you're just getting started, but you have actually taken a step to in that direction, then this will actually help you grow further exponentially than you could ever imagine. My name is Taylor Hall. I'm the general manager of the Tulsa Oilers Professional Hockey team.
Our goal every night here at the BOK Center is to try to fill the seats with lots of people and create an exciting environment so when somebody comes to a game they want to come back. Working with Clay and the staff at Thrive, they've really helped us in many, many ways.
website and graphic design and video production and a lot of things that go along and a lot of businesses including ours doesn't have a staff or a full-time you know videographer or graphic designer but the biggest thing that we noticed was the needle loover more sales more attendance more successes in business we had a record year last season working with clay for the first time our average attendance is higher than it's ever been so there's a lot of really cool things that we did and they worked
That's the nice thing about working with clay and the team over there. It's just not one person, you get the entire team. If you need video design and editing and production, they've got that. If you need graphic design, if you need some coaching, you're salespeople and call scripts, PR, they offer all that.
play was instrumental in helping guiding us and getting us on the right track so that we could really raise the bar and become ultra successful. So it's been an amazing experience for us. My name is Caitlin. I own a cuddly gym called Justice Cuddly Company. It's awesome. Working with play is so helpful. It's me, diligence, everything.
Our goal is to really make this happen. It's fine, it's fine. It really gets you energized and going. It just makes you really want to work. To get the comments up going, to really just get that buzz, to really give you the energy to get up it.
I bought me that. I'm in the charcoal grilling industry, and the name of my business is Growblazer. How will I apply what I've learned so far into my business? I'm actually a client that has a right of team, and I learn so much from what I'm learning at this conference and my regular weekly attendance that it's helping me establish this as a get it off the ground.
Today's presentation style is just a blatant disregard for what anybody wants. It just has fun. It's him. Everything that you see is authentically clay. It's a great deal of fun. Everybody enjoys it, but they know when you walk in, they think they're coming in to a carnival, and frankly they are. It's just great fun.
There's not another conference like it. You just don't go to a carnival atmosphere and learn like a new area in a private place. That's great. The reason people should attend at least one of these conferences is because it's common sense. And everybody's spent an entire line about the way you should run a business, but to actually experience running a business, which is candidly what you learned here, how to run a business. You don't know what to do.
My name is Tyler Hastings and this is my wife Rachel and our company is Delrick research out of New Orleans.
During our time working with Thrive, we've had numerous successes. When we first started, we were working with one physician. We had one research site, and we were seeing on average, you know, between 10 and 15 patients a week since working with Thrive in the last 18 months. We now have four research sites. We work with over five physicians, and on average, we're now seeing over 60 patients per week.
Recently we've been the top enroller worldwide in seven studies, which is just incredible considering where we were, you know, two years ago, 18 months ago.
Thrive really differs from the other conferences that we've been to and the other kind of programs that we've been through because they actually really practice what they preach and they implement the same systems and the processes that they teach you about and they give you real life examples that really work for them and show you with the training how to implement that yourself.
For example, Tyler and I actually got the opportunity to come out to Tulsa and were fortunate enough that the Thrive team took us out to some of the businesses that they own and we really got to see in real life real time some of the systems and processes and it was just incredible. A real life example of some of the businesses and the things that they're implementing.
Having a coach is important to us. They act as not only in accountability factor, but there's someone we can talk to on a daily basis as we go through the problems of running a business that inevitably come up. They always understand what we're going through and they're always there to help us or guide us through the problems that we experience.
The best part of our experience working with Thrive has just been seeing our relationship grow. So at each step, as our business grows, they have something else to provide us with. They've got the resources, whether it be marketing, graphic design, website development, or even into accounting practices, maybe we need a new insurance policy. They have someone they can connect us with, or they have the direct resource we need to speak with for any of the problems we face.
If someone's thinking about signing up for the coaching program, I would highly recommend that they call in for a free 30-minute coaching session and see exactly what the team can do for you to speak with someone and let them know what you're going through. And I think you'll find that regardless of what you need there, someone there that can help you.
Clay's presentation style is very real and raw. It just gets real down to the bone of it and the real purpose of it. There's no fluffy vagueness about it. So he really gets to the point. I'm always reminded about how important it is to be intentional and to really, really pay attention to how you schedule your time and really honor it.
because whatever gets scheduled gets done, that's what he said from Lee Cockrell. So just constantly hearing that and getting reminded, it helps me to reinforce that in my own life. It always helps to get an outside perspective, and especially from a guy that's grown, so many multi-billion dollar businesses. Doesn't hurt, so. My name is Nick Guajardo. I heard about the Thrive Time Show Workshop
Through Andy Matherin, Andy Matherin and Larry Montgomery, they're my bosses at Restore Home Health. So I work with a home health company called Restore Home Health. And my role is pretty much to bring in business. So I was hoping to learn the sales process on top of just the responsibilities
and help understand what it looks like on the SEO side and just kind of all around what it looks like to own a business because that's something I wanted to do in the future for sure. How I would describe the atmosphere here at Thrive is high energy,
great professionalism, great people. It's just, it's a place you're definitely one of his and the app. Clay's delivery style, humorous, professional, hilarious. Just, he does it, I haven't seen someone do it better. So, he does a great job. The most valuable thing I've learned so far, a lot of it has been extremely valuable. So, but one thing that's always really stuck out to me,
is learning the SEO stuff. I mean that is I think things you don't really even think about and then you hear it.
and you think you know it, but you don't know it. So, I feel like that was the most valuable. Well, they're missing out on just coming down to just basic applications to be a business owner. I mean, I feel like it's like an absolute necessity, you know, to come here and learn the ins and outs and maybe come here once or twice if they, you know, take good notes, that kind of thing. Why? It's the experience here and what you can learn, like, absolutely.
So marketing and SEO seemed like something that would be very scary, but then in the way that Clay and his team described it became very clear and concise and something that's very accessible to any business owner. I've learned a lot about marketing at this conference and a lot about business management and HR. Really everything, the key components of anybody's business, they're going to give you the best tools to be successfully.
So most workshops or conferences can be really boring, really one note, or they just seem so theatrical that it's a joke and it's not even giving you the tools that you need for that you came there for. But here it's still high energy, it's still fun, everything's to the point, but it's very professional. And yeah, you're missing out on these steps to use in your business that are very accessible and very clear.
My name is Abigail McCarter. The best thing I've learned so far is definitely like organization, schedule-wise, always keeping a to-do list, keeping your calendar organized. I'm kind of all over the place, so that's always good to know. So, Clay's presentation style in the atmosphere is electric. It's so energetic, it's so fun. Clay's hilarious, but also knows a ton, so it's just really great all around.
This conference is much different than any other conference I've gone to. Again, because it's fun, like a lot of other conferences, it's like really quiet, really cold, and you're just kind of get bored. But this one, you're like always engaged, you're always learning something, and the staff is amazing. They're always super helpful, so it's just been really great.
My name is Glenn Howard for Personal Training and Fitness Training Facility. Oh wow, I'm learning in time. I like this morning so far, it's been a search engine optimization. So really just the importance of being at the topic of Google, how Google works and why it's so important to go out and get video reviews and testimonials and getting Google reviews.
And so all those things we can take back and really apply that, like immediately. So it's really cool to see not only how to do it, but really do relevance in the course of a long-term strategy. Now, it's amazing actually the way in this morning, and yesterday I was videoing as I was walking in the front entrance. And actually me, I've gone to a lot of seminars. I've gone to a lot of conferences and massive lines. I've been doing that since I was like 22 years old. So I got you almost 20 years now.
And this is by far the most entertaining, not only the content, they're content's amazing, but play and you guys do a great job of mixing in an entertainment entertainment where it's fun, it's fresh, it's lively, you never get bored. And I heard a study once out that the reason that children learn so much quicker is because it's fun, learning is fun. And so obviously play is a nail dab and we're very proud to be here.
and keeps you awake, keeps you energized. Yeah, I think having any business owner or someone that wants to own a business or considering owning a starting a business should definitely come. I know that I was referred here about friends of mine and clients of mine and I've referred other people.
I get this to understand what it makes to make this successful, but have a good time. Obviously, you're not going to just say it, have fun. And that works with a lot of people who you can learn from. There's a lot of breaks you can talk to other people. So I think this is a must of team to anybody that holds the business with what it must have started.
My name is Jamie Faggle, I'm with Jameson Fine Cabinetry. I heard about the conference through Andrew. He's the coach that I deal with here at the Thrive. The most valuable piece I found even working with Andrew, but it's solidified when it came here, was you got to actually do the things that they're telling you. With no action, you're not going to get anything from it.
I would highly recommend this to almost anybody in business today. I have recommended to some of my other business partners. It's phenomenal. It's really something. If you want to start a business, the old way of doing things is gone. This is what you got to do. It's the only way to work.
Hey, this is Charles and Amber Cole. We're the owners of Cole Law Fitness. The way we're able to do that is working with Clay for the last three years. He has really readjusted our thinking and taught us that our business is here to serve us. And by doing that, we're able to live the lifestyle we want and take off on a random vacation last minute. So we had totally planned on being at the conference.
Wish we could be there and be all of you. We know you're having a great time. So, yes. Clay in the last three years has helped us build all the necessary systems, checklists, workflows, task lists, time blocks, audits that are always running and the right capable lieutenants to keep track of all that so that you too can get time freedom, financial freedom.
and that's what we have done and Clay has helped us do. We've got multiple companies in multiple states and they're all doing very well getting ready to go to two more locations in this next year and co-op and it says a really big future. We're teaming up with a couple other groups and we should scale the company here shortly. Hopefully we'll open like 50 locations in the next 10 years. So but yeah, we're on the way. We're going to probably more than double our company or maybe triple our company in the next eight to nine months.
And it's just awesome. God is working in our business. And we're making Jesus and changing lives. We're a strong Christian company that focuses on making Jesus famous and changing lives in the fitness field. And this is Charles and Abraham Cola. Thank you, Thrive. Hit your action items. We love you guys. We wish you were there. You guys have a wonderful day. Bye-bye.
My name is Jennifer Johnson. I'm in the pest control industry and also wheat control fertilization and my business is flat and pestiline. Some of these people apply a lot of the things that I've learned in our business because this is not my first conference and so a lot of the things
that we learned we've put into place and now we're doing the next level of refining the processes for just the different concepts and so it's getting better and better things that we're just big process before we have the foundation laid and now we're able to make it better and better that's hearing different things now that we've implemented things and so we can
just making it even better implemented in our own business. A plays presentation in the atmosphere is very exciting and fun. It keeps you awake. It makes it interesting. You have a lot of information, but if it's not going to be entertaining, your brain is going to tune it out. But play makes it just entertaining enough that you retain what you learn. Lots of driving and catching things so that you remember stuff. What makes you?
Something that makes this conference different than other workshops or conferences that I've been to is that there's a lot of people here in my safe situation where most of us are pretty small businesses wanting to improve and we want real-life information and something that will work and that's attainable.
and not just some crazy magic formula but actual action items that we can implement in our business and actually see a difference. Everyone should attend a prime-time business conference whether you're a business owner or not. If you're a business owner it has practical applications that you can apply to so many different parts of your business and then you need to come back for more.
so that you can keep doing more of the wonderful things that you learn. But secondly, I am also a mom of three kids, and a lot of the concepts can actually be applied to home, like getting routines and setting systems at home has just seriously made a huge difference in my life at home. So I've been able to improve our business, but I've also been able to improve things at home. And so that's why everyone should have no matter what your station is in life.
Yeah, my name is Nolan Kuehlberg from San Francisco, California. The initiative that I'm in is financial services. I've learned a ton so far, but once I can best apply from this conference is the opportunity that I hunger to go out there and make a big difference in my industry.
He's got an endless amount of energy. It's, uh, it's contagious. And yeah, by being here, I really do want to, uh, to go back and be able to face all the adversities that I think she has. Yeah, this conference, uh, I think that makes it different, isn't it? It's special because it has a unique set of individuals that all share that same energy. I think he takes it as a dragon energy, but yeah, that, uh, that's easy.
Everyone should come to multiple, but their first would be very special. Yeah, you're welcome with a lot of enthusiasm. That'll last for a long time. My name is Gabriella Cruz. Our business is PCS Electric. My husband's the owner, but I'm involved with that, and so we're an electric company. Well, here at the conference, they talk a lot about consistency, and so just stay consistent with different
Different things in the business and I feel like flying back to our business model will really help us grow. The atmosphere is very positive, uplifting and it's very fun and energetic and so it gets you months and it gets you excited and it encourages you to do big things. I probably how real they are. They tell you upfront what you need to do and what's like a no-go and some conferences are they kind of sugarcoat things so I like how real they are here.
I think it'll definitely, if you want your business to grow, I think this would be a great experience. And then not only that, it'll encourage you and inform you on so many things you don't think about on a daily basis. Hey, I'm Ryan Wimpy. I'm originally from Tulsa, born and raised here. I've definitely learned a lot about life design and making sure the business serves you. The linear workflow, the linear workflow for us and getting everything out on paper and document is really important.
Like we have workflows that are kind of all over the place, so having linear workflow and seeing that mapped out on multiple different boards is pretty awesome. That's really helpful for me.
The atmosphere here is awesome. I definitely just stared at the walls figuring out how to make my facility look like this place. This place rocks. It's invigorating the walls. It's just very cool. The atmosphere is cool. The people are nice. It's a pretty cool place to be. Very good learning atmosphere. I literally want to model it and steal everything that's here at this facility and basically create it just on our business side.
Play is hilarious. I literally laughed so hard that I sort of having tears yesterday.
Um, and we've been learning a lot, which, you know, we've been sitting here. We've been learning a lot. And so the humor definitely helps. It breaks it up. Um, but the content is awesome off the charts and it's very interactive. You can raise your hand. It's not like you're just listening to the professor speak, you know, the wizard teaches, but the wizard interacts and he takes questions. That's awesome. If you're not attending the conference, you're missing about three quarters to half of your life. Um, you're definitely
It's probably worth a couple thousand dollars. So you're missing the thought process of someone that's already started, like, nine profitable businesses. So not only is it a lot of good information, but just getting in the thought process of Clay Clark or Dr. Zellner or any of the other coaches, getting in the thought process of how they're starting all these businesses, to me, just that is priceless. That's money.
Well, we're definitely not getting upsold here. My wife and I have attended conferences where it was great information, and then they upsold us half the conference. And I want to bang my head into a wall. And she's banging her head into the chair in front of her. It's good information, but we're like, oh my gosh, I want to strangle you. Shut up and go with the presentation that we paid for. And that's not here. There's no up sales or anything, so that's awesome. I hate that. It makes me angry.
Glad that's not happening. So the cost of this conference is quite a bit cheaper than business college. I went to a small private liberal arts college and got a degree in business and I didn't learn anything like they're teaching here. I didn't learn linear workflows. I learned stuff that I'm not using and I haven't been using for the last nine years.
So what they're teaching here is actually way better than what I got at business school. And I went what was actually ranked as a very good business school. I would definitely recommend that people would check out the Thrive 15 conference. The information that you're going to get is just very, very beneficial. And the mindset that you're going to get that you're going to leave with is just absolutely worth the price of a little bit of money in a few days worth of your time.
I'm Rachel with Tiptop K9 and we just want to give a huge thank you to Clay Vanessa Clark. Hey guys, I'm Ryan with Tiptop K9. Just want to say a big thank you to Thrive15. Thank you to Make Your Life Epic. We love you guys. We appreciate you and really just appreciate how far you've taken us. This is our old house, right? This is where we used to live. Here we go. This is our old neighborhood. See?
So this is my old van and our old school marketing and this is our old team and by team I mean it's me and another guy
This is our new van with our new marketing and this is our new team. We went from 4 to 14 and I took this beautiful photo. We worked with several different business coaches in the past and they were all about helping Ryan sell better and just teaching sales which is awesome but Ryan is a really great salesman so we didn't need that. We needed somebody to help us get everything that was in his head out
into systems, into manuals, and scripts, and actually build a team. So now that we have systems in place, we've gone from one to ten locations in only a year.
In October 2016, we grossed 13 grand for the whole month. Right now, it's 2018, the month of October. It's only the 22nd. We've already grossed a little over 50 grand for the whole month, and we still have time to go. We're just thankful for you, thankful for Thrive and your mentorship, and we're really thankful that you guys have helped us to grow a business that we run now instead of the business running us. Just thank you, thank you, thank you times of thousands.
So we really just want to thank you Clay and thank you Vanessa for everything you've done, everything you've helped us with. We love you guys. Hello, my name is Charles Colaw with Colaw Fitness. Today I want to tell you a little bit about Clay Clark and how I know Clay Clark. Clay Clark has been my business coach since 2017. He's helped us grow from two locations to now six locations. We're planning to do seven locations and seven years and then franchise and Clay has done a great job of helping us navigate anything that has to do with like
running the business, building the systems, the checklists, the workflows, the audits, how to navigate lease agreements, how to buy property, how to work with brokers and builders. This guy is just amazing. This kind of guy is working in every single industry. He's written books with like Lee Crockrell head of Disney with the 40,000 cast members. He's friends with like Mike Lindell. He does reawaken America tours where he does these tours all across the country where 10,000 or more people show up to some of these
tours on the day-to-day. He does anywhere from about 160 companies. He's at the top. He has a team of business coaches, videographers, and graphic designers and web developers, and they run 160 companies every single week. So think of this guy with a team of business coaches running 160 companies. So in the weekly, he's running 160 companies.
Um, every six to eight weeks, he's doing reawaken America tours. Every six to eight weeks. He's also doing business conferences where 200 people show up and he teaches people a 13 step proven system that he's done and worked with billionaires, helping them grow their companies. Um, so he's, I see guys from startups.
go from startup to being multi-millionaires, to teaching people how to get time freedom and financial freedom through the system. Critical thinking, document creation, making it, putting it into organizing everything in their head to building into a franchiseable, scalable business. Like one of his businesses has like 500 franchises.
That's just one of the companies or brands that he works with. So amazing guy, Elon Musk, kind of like smart guy. He kind of comes off sometimes as socially awkward, but he's so brilliant and he's taught me so much. When I say that, like Clay is like, he doesn't care what people think when you're talking to him. He cares about where you're going in your life and where he can get you to go. And that's what I like most about him. He's like,
a good coach. A coach isn't just making you feel good all the time. A coach is actually helping you get to the best you and Clay has been an amazing business coach. Through the course of that, we became friends. My most impressed with him is when I was shadowing him one time, we went into a business deal and listened to it. I got to shadow and listened to it. When we walked out, I knew that he could make millions on the deal and they were super excited about working with him. He told me he's like, I'm not going to touch it. I'm going to turn it down because he knew it was going to harm the common good.
of people in the long run and the guy's integrity just really wowed me. It brought tears to my eyes to see that this guy, his highest desire was to do what's right. Anyways, just an amazing man. Anyways, it impacted me a lot. He's helped navigate. Anytime I've gotten nervous or worried about how to run the company.
navigating competition and an economy that's like I remember we got closed down for three months he helped us navigate on how to stay open how to how to get back open how to just survive through all the covid shutdowns lockdowns because our clubs are all closed for three months and you have three hundred fifty thousand dollars of
Bill, you've got to pay and we have no accounts receivable. He helped us navigate that. And of course, we were conservative enough that we could afford to take that on for a period of time. But anyways, great man. I'm very impressed with him. So Clay, thank you for everything you're doing.
And I encourage you, if you haven't ever worked with Clay, he's going to help magnify you. And there's nobody I have ever met that has the ability to work as hard as he does. He probably sleeps for maybe six hours a day and literally the rest of the time he's working and he can outwork everybody in the room.
every single day, and he loves it. So anyways, this is Charles Cola with Cola Fitness. Thank you, Clay. And anybody out there that's wanting to work with Clay, it's a great, great opportunity to ever work with him. So you guys have a blessed one. This is Charles Cola. We'll see you guys. Bye-bye.
Hi, I'm Aaron Antis with Shaw Homes. I first heard about Clay through a mortgage lender here in town who had told me what a great job he had been doing for them. And I actually noticed he was driving a Lamborghini all of a sudden, so I was willing to listen. In my career, I've sold a little over $800 million in real estate.
So honestly I thought I kind of knew everything about marketing and homes and then I met Clay and my perception of what I knew and what I could do definitely changed after
doing 800 million in sales over a 15 year career. I really thought I knew what I was doing. I've been managing a large team of salespeople for the last 10 years here with Shaw Homes. And I mean, we've been a company that's been in business for 35 years. We've
become one of the largest builders in the Tulsa area, and that was without clay. So when I came to know clay, I really thought, man, there's not much more I need to know, but I'm willing to listen. The interesting thing is our internet leads from our website has actually, in a four-month period of time, has gone from somewhere around 10 to 15 leads in a month
to 180 internet leads in a month. Just from the few things that he's shown us how to implement that I honestly probably never would have come up with on my own. So I got a lot of good things to say about the system that Clay put in place with us and it's just been an incredible experience. I am very glad that we met and had the opportunity to work with Clay.
So the interaction with the team and with Clay on a weekly basis is honestly very enlightening. One of the things that I love about Clay's perspective on things is that he doesn't come from my industry. He's not somebody who's
in the home building industry. I've listened to all the experts in my field. Our company has paid for me to go to seminars, international builder shows, all kinds of places where I've had the opportunity to learn from the experts in my industry. But the thing that I found working with Clay is that he comes from such a broad spectrum
of working with so many different types of businesses, that he has a perspective that's difficult for me to gain because I get so entrenched in what I do, I'm not paying attention to what other leading industry experts are doing, and Clay really brings that perspective for me. It is very valuable time every week when I get that hour with him. From my perspective, the reason that
Any business owner who's thinking about hooking up with Thrive needs to definitely consider it is because the results that we've gotten in a very short period of the time are honestly monumental. It has really exceeded my wildest expectation
of what he might be able to do. I came in skeptical because I'm very pragmatic and as I've gone through the process over just a few months, I've realized it's probably one of the best moves we've ever made.
I think a lot of people probably feel like they don't need a business or marketing consultant because they maybe are a little bit prideful and like to think they know everything. I know that's how I felt coming in. I mean, we're a big company that's definitely one of the largest in town. And so we kind of felt like we knew what we were doing. And I think for a lot of people they let their ego get in the way of listening to somebody that might have a better or different perspective than theirs.
I would just really encourage you if you're thinking about working with clay. I mean the thing is it's month to month. Go give it a try and see what happens. I think in the 35 year history of Shaw Holmes this is probably the best thing that's happened to us and I know if you give him a shot I think you'll feel the same way.
I know for me the thing I would have missed out on if I didn't work with clay is I would have missed out on literally an 1,800% increase in our internet leads. Going from 10 a month to 180 a month.
That would have been a huge financial decision to just decide not to give it a shot. I would absolutely recommend Clay Clark to anybody who's thinking about working with somebody in marketing. I would skip over anybody else you were thinking about and I would go straight to Clay and his team. I guarantee you're not going to regret it because we sure haven't.
My name is Danielle Sprick and I am the founder of Desprick Realty Group here in Tulsa, Oklahoma. After being a stay-at-home mom for 12 years and my three kids started school and they were in school full-time, I was at a crossroads and trying to decide what do I want to do. My degree and my background is in education, but after being a mom and staying home and all of that, I just didn't have a passion for it like I once did.
My husband suggested real estate. He's a home builder, so real estate and home building go hand in hand, and we just rolled with it. I love people. I love working with people. I love the building relationships. But one thing that was really difficult for me was the business side of things.
the processes and the advertising and marketing, I knew that I did not have what I needed to make that what it should be. So I reached out to Clay at that time and he and his team have been extremely instrumental in helping us build our brand, help market our business, our agents, the homes that we represent, everything that we do
is a direct line from Clay and his team and all that they've done for us. We launched our brokerage, our real estate brokerage, eight months ago. And in that time, we've gone from myself and one other agent to just this week, we signed on our 16th agent. We have been blessed with the fact that we right now have just over 10 million impending transactions.
Three years ago, I never would have even imagined that I would be in this role that I'm in today, building a business, having 16 agents, but I have to give credit where credits do and Clay and his team and the business coaching that they've offered us has been huge. It's been instrumental in what we're doing. Don't ever limit your vision. When you dream big, big things happen.
I started the business because I couldn't work for anyone else. I do things my way. I do what I think is in the best interest of the patient. I don't answer insurance companies. I don't answer to large corporate organizations. I answer to my patient and that's it. My thought when I opened my clinic was I can do this all myself. I don't need additional outside help in many ways. I mean, I went to medical school. I can figure this out.
But it was a very, very steep learning curve. Within the first six months of opening my clinic, I had a $63,000 investment. I lost multiple employees. Clay helped us weather the storm of some of the things that are just a lot of people experience, especially in the medical world.
He was instrumental in helping with the specific written business plan. He's been instrumental in hiring good quality employees using the processes that he outlines for getting in good talent, which is extremely difficult. He helped me in securing the business loans. He helped me with web development and search engine optimization. We've been able to really keep a steady stream of clients coming in because they found us on the web. With everything that I encountered, everything that I experienced,
I quickly learned it is worth every penny to have someone in your team that can walk you through and even avoid some of the pitfalls that are almost invariable in starting your own business. I'm Dr. Chad Edwards and I own Revolution Health and Wellness Credit.
We'll offer this gig to all three of these houses who are attacked and who have got air and answers for strong moves up there. We've got a sneaker, a ten-year-old woman that contacts a pair of people. We're talking about what is possible when you just implement it. You implement it. What do you do to prove it's so exciting? I want people that are going crazy. Now, all I go, love me. I heard many, many P.R. folks, the man who represented people like Michael Jackson, Barbara Streisand.
We just wrapped up day one. It was incredible. We had some remarkable speakers, Michael Levine. We just finished with a lady named Jill Donovan, who owns a company called Rusted Cuff, talking about the power of the Dream 100. I cannot wait to see what tomorrow holds.
Hey guys, Luke Erickson with a thrive time show here with you. It is day two and the energy is high. People are so excited to be showing up when the team is ready. Come on, let's see what it's like to go on in for day two. Follow me. People are so excited to be here for day two. It is gonna be incredible. Cannot wait to see what today has in store.
broken into groups, going over search engine optimization. I know for most of us, myself included, to ensure that term, but what is that? What does that mean? That's too techy for me. Well, our experts are breaking it down for people so that you can clearly understand how to come up top in Google. It's doable. It's possible.
we're in the middle of a break and what we like to do is we like to give you as much tangible and relevant information from about the start of the hour for 45 minutes then we take approximately a 15 minute break to allow people to connect with other entrepreneurs around them bathroom breaks and also use this time to just really digest all of the good information that you receive the whole
Right behind me, we've got Bob with his grill gun, melting, and ice sculpture. It is awesome. The ice sculpture represents our life, right? It's here for our time, but we all need to have the sense of urgency to implement the things that we're learning so that we can make the most of the time that we have.
We are outside, you can see a line behind me. What's going on is that we partner with different companies to help them implement the proven systems over and over and over again. And one of those companies is Master Machine. And so what we like to do is partner with these companies to also help them give samples to other people as they come to the conference and truly get their name out.
Some of the amazing things that have happened today. We've had entrepreneurs like all hood with hood CPA's. We've had Jill Donovan and Michael Levine come up and just impart so much wisdom and knowledge. We've got an incredible giveaway for one of our TV's.
Hey there, Thrive Nation. One of the things that we love most about our business conferences is that we want every entrepreneur to leave with their questions answered. So what we do is we let them put the questions up on the board here so that they can ask their specific questions and play will not end the conference until every question is answered.
to be answering all the different questions that entrepreneurs have brought to the conference. Whenever someone comes here and starts to hear this information, especially for the first time, it just brings about so much anticipation of wanting to actually implement the proven systems and processes, and so the play always wants to make sure that it answers all of those questions, which are the most set of principles to be able to go home and start improving. If you have any questions, email us at info
We have come to the end of the 2019 Christmas conference. It was incredible. These entrepreneurs have gotten so many tangible things that they can go and they can implement. Check us out for more information at thrivetimeshow.com. And as we always like to do, we want to end with a boom. Three, two, one, boom.
Once I saw what they were doing, I knew I had to get here at the conference. This is probably the best conference there's someone I've ever been to in over 30 years in business. You're an off-board. You're awake and alive the whole time. It's not pushy. I'm trying to sell you a bunch of things. I was looking to learn how to just get control of my life, my schedule, and just get control of the business.
You're planning your time, breaking it all down, making time for the ethics in your life and just really implementing it and sticking with the program. It's really lively. He's a pretty friendly, helpful, very welcoming. I attended a conference a couple months back and it was really the best business conference I've ever attended. At the workshop I learned a lot about time management. I'm really prioritizing what's the most important.
Biggest takeaways are, you know, you want to take a step-by-step approach to your business. Whether it's marketing, you know, one of those three marketing tools that you want to use to human resources. Some of the most successful people and successful businesses in this town, their owners were here today because they wanted to know more from clay and I found that to be kind of fascinating. The most valuable thing that I've learned is diligence. That businesses don't change overnight. It takes
time and effort and you got to go to the ups and downs of getting it to where you want to go. He actually gives you the road map out. I was stuck didn't know what to do and he gave me the road map out step by step. We've set up systems in the business that make my life much easier.
allow me some time freedom. Here you can ask any question you want, they guarantee it'll be answered. I think this conference motivates me and also give me a lot of knowledge and tools. It's up to you to do this. Everybody can do these things. There's not that everybody knows, but if you don't do it, nobody else can do it for you. I can see the marketing working.
And it's just an approach that makes sense. Probably the most notable thing is just the income increase that we've had. Everyone's super fun, super motivating. I've been here before, but I'm back again because it motivates me. Your competition's going to come eventually or try to pick up these tactics so you better if you know somebody else will.
If you decide to not attend the drive time workshop, you're missing out on a great opportunity. The atmosphere plays often. It's very lively. You can feel the energy as soon as you walk through the door. And it really got me and my team very excited.
If you decide not to come, you're missing out on an opportunity to grow your business bottom line. I love the environment. I love the way that Clay presents and teaches. It's a way that not only allows me to comprehend what's going on, but he explains it in a way to where it just makes sense. The SEO optimization, branding, marketing, I've learned more in the last two days than I have the entire four years of college.
The most valuable thing that I've learned, marketing is key, marketing is everything. Making sure that your brand did accurately and clearly. You had a core business using Google reviews and it just had to optimize our name through our website also. Helpful with a lot of marketing, search engine optimization, helping us really rank high at Google.
The biggest thing I needed to learn was how to build my foundation, how to systemize everything and optimize everything, build my SEO, how to become more organized, more efficient. How to make sure the business is really there to serve me as opposed to me constantly being there for the business. New ways of advertising my business.
as well as recruiting new employees. Group interviews, number one. Before we felt like we were held hostage by our boys, group interviews has completely eliminated that because you're able to really find the people that would really be the best fit. Hands-on, how to hire people, how to deal with human resources, a lot about marketing and overall just how to structure the business, how it works for me and also then how that can translate into working better for my clients.
The valuable thing I've learned here is time management. I like the one hour of doing your business is real critical if I'm going to grow and change. I want to teach you how to navigate through those things and not only find freedom, but find your purpose in your business and find the emphasis for all those other people that directly affect your business as well. Everybody. Everybody. Everyone. Everyone needs to attend the conference because you get offered to see that it's real.
JT, do you know what time it is? Um, 14. It's, uh, it's Tebow time and Tulsa Newsome, baby. Tim Tebow is coming to Tulsa, Oklahoma. During the month of Christmas, December 5th and 6th, 2024, Tim Tebow is coming to Tulsa, Oklahoma and the two day interactive thrive time show business growth workshop. Yes, folks. Put it in your calendar this December, the month of Christmas, December 5th and 6th.
Tim Tebow is coming to Tulsa, Oklahoma, and The Thrive Time Show, two-day interactive business growth workshop. We've been doing business conferences here since 2005. I've been hosting business conferences since 2005. What year were you born? 1995.
Dude, I've been hosting business conferences since you were 10 years old. And a lot of people have followed Tim Tebow's football career on the field and off the field. And off the field, the guy's been just as successful as he has been on the field. Now, the big question is, JT, how does he do it?
Well, they're going to have to come and find out because I don't know. Well, I'm just saying tip to you is going to teach us how he organizes his day, how he organizes his life, how he's proactive with his faith, his family, his finances. He's going to walk us through his mindset that he brings into the gym, into business. It is going to be a blast. He blasted Tulsa Russell.
Folks, I'm telling you, if you want to learn branding, you want to learn marketing, you want to learn search engine optimization, you want to learn social media marketing, that's what we teach at the Thrive Time Show, two-day interactive workshop. If you want to learn accounting, you want to learn sales systems, you want to learn how to build a linear workflow, you want to learn how to franchise your business, that is what we teach at the two-day interactive Thrive Time Show business workshop.
Over the years we've had the opportunity to feature Michael Levine, the PR consultant of choice for Nike, for Prince, for Michael Jackson. The top PR consultant in the history of the planet has spoken at the Thrivetime Show workshops. We've had Jill Donovan, the founder of rusticcuff.com, a company that creates apparel worn by celebrities all throughout the world. Jill Donovan, the founder of rusticcuff.com has spoken at the two-day interactive Thrivetime Show business workshops.
the guy, we've had the man who's responsible for turning around Harley Davidson, a man by the name of Ken Schmidt. He has spoken at the Thrive Time Show two-day interactive business workshops. Folks, I'm telling you, these events are going to teach you what you need to know to start and grow a successful business. And the way we price the events, the way we do these events, is you can pay $250 for a ticket or whatever price that you can afford. What?
Yes, we've designed these events to be affordable for you and we want to see you live and in person at the two-day interactive December 5th and 6th Thrive Time Show Business Workshop. Everything that you need to succeed will be taught at the two-day interactive Thrive Time Show Business Workshop December 5th and 6th in Tulsa, Oklahoma. And the way we do these events is we teach for 30 minutes
And then we open it up for a question and answer session. So the wonderful people like you can have your questions answered. Yes, we teach for 30 minutes. And then we open it up for a 15 minute question and answer session. It's interactive. It's two days. It's in Tulsa, Oklahoma. We've been doing these events since 2005. And I'm telling you folks, it's going to blow your mind.
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, the Thrivetime Show today interactive business workshop is America's highest rated and most reviewed business workshop. See the thousands of video testimonials from real people just like you who've been able to build multi-million dollar companies. Watch those testimonials today at ThrivetimeShow.com simply by clicking on the testimonials button right there at ThrivetimeShow.com. You're going to see thousands of people just like you.
We've been able to go from just surviving to thriving. Each and every day, we're going to add more and more speakers to this all-star lineup. But I encourage everybody out there today, get those tickets today, go to thrivetimeshow.com. Again, that's thrivetimeshow.com. And some people might be saying, well, how do I do it? How's it work? You just go to thrivetimeshow.com. Let's go there now. We're feeling the flow. We're going to thrive time show.