Brandon Donlon on Club Condo Survivor 47 Ep 10
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November 26, 2024
TLDR: Club Condo podcast features Survivor 45's Brandon Donlon in episode 10 of Survivor 47
Introduction
In the latest episode of Club Condo, Rob Sestrin and Chappelle welcome special guest Brandon Donlon, known for his participation in Survivor 45. They dive deep into Episode 10 of Survivor 47 and pull apart the central themes, character dynamics, and standout moments of the episode.
Guest Introduction
- Brandon Donlon, a loyal participant in the podcasting community, expresses excitement about returning to analyze Survivor.
- The hosts reminisce about nostalgic viral videos and how they relate to their discussions on the show.
Survivor 47 Episode Highlights
Key Themes: Loyalty and Strategy
- Loyalty in Gameplay: The episode draws heavily on the theme of loyalty among players, epitomized by Brandon’s references to iconic moments and phrases from previous seasons.
- Strategic Dynamics: Both Brandon and Chappelle discuss the shifting strategies that players must adopt in today’s game, reflecting on how being ‘too loyal’ can now be a disadvantage as alliances shift.
Character Analysis
- Gabe’s Elimination: Gabe, a promising front-runner, gets voted out in a shocking twist. The discussion centers around the implications of being seen as a top dog versus an underdog in the modern era of Survivor.
- Brandon’s Take:
- Brandon shares his thoughts on the new era’s meta-game, where contestants need to strike a balance in visibility; being perceived too powerful can lead to elimination.
- He emphasizes the importance of social connections and underlying secret alliances that can shift the game.
Survivor Game Mechanics
Survivor’s New Era Dynamics
Player Positioning: - There’s debate about the current meta-game where players aim to manipulate others without appearing too aggressive or too weak.
- Recent seasons have seen contestants aiming for a middle ground to reduce the target on their backs.
The Role of Challenges
- Immunity Challenges: There’s a discussion about the physical challenges in Survivor and how winning immunity can sometimes create more tension than relief.
- Cowboy’s Streak: The potential significance of Kyle’s ability to win multiple immunity challenges is examined, showcasing how challenge success can impact the social game.
Fun Segments
Viral Videos and Pop Culture
- The hosts delve into pop culture and share favorite nostalgic viral moments. They discuss potential new content for children and recommendations for fun online videos.
Tagline Game
- The podcast plays a fun game where they come up with potential Survivor taglines for different characters, reflecting on their past gameplay and personalities while drawing humorous comparisons to iconic pop culture references.
Conclusion and Expectations
- Future Episodes: As the season moves toward its finale, the conversation turns towards expected character arcs, potential betrayals during tribal councils, and favorite moments from the season.
- Next Podcast: The club stays tuned for upcoming discussions about ongoing strategies and further explorations into the latest twists in Survivor 47.
Takeaways
- Understanding Gameplay: The episode emphasizes the evolution of Survivor gameplay, from loyalty to the intricacies of social strategy.
- Appreciation of Guests: Having guests like Brandon adds depth, providing insights from lived Survivor experiences and democratizing the game’s strategies.
This engaging episode enriches listener perspectives and aligns with the ongoing fascination with reality TV dynamics. Fans eagerly await the next podcast, where deeper discussions on gameplay will continue.
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Hey, everybody. What's going on? Rob Sestrino back for a club condo here for episode 10 of Survivor 47. We're back. We're ready to go. Sorry, not sorry. Yes, big episode coming up here tonight. And we've got a jam-packed show here with a guy who's loyal to the soil when it comes to the podcast. It's Chappelle Chappelle. How are you? Rob, I'm good.
I am loyal to soil famously. You know, I told you 10 toes down every time. I love seeing baby Andy talk about that in this episode because it felt like he was speaking to us. The loyal RJP soil. Yes. Right. We've been tuning in for years and we ain't going nowhere.
Yeah. Okay. And now here's a guy who so excited to have him back here on Club Condo last season. He joined us for the 17th place round table, but now here he is to talk about ninth place. It's Brandon Dunlin. Hey.
Last time I was here, I ended the podcast. I looked at you, Rob, and I said, I'll be back. This isn't the last time you're going to see me. And look, I got the invite. I got the coveted invite. We all won. I got it. It was great to have Brandon here because after the episode of Wednesday, he texted me loyal to Susan Boyle.
Yeah. Yeah. I dreamed a dream. I dreamed a dream of time gone by, you know? My Spanish teacher one time we got in trouble. Like we eat the class got in trouble. And then she made us watch that. And there was some lesson there. I don't remember what the lesson was, but we watched the audition. I wish I could ask her. Maybe I'll send any viral video.
It was already, especially in 2011 when I was a freshman in high school. Yeah. That's when the peak Susan Boyle, I think. Chappelle, if you have any good viral video recommendations that my kids are like asking, Dad, show us famous YouTube videos. Oh, they want to see the oldies, right? Oh, yeah, for way back in the day. It's like Nick at night of Charlie Bit My Finger.
Oh, yeah, or the who was the person who was smashing the grapes or where Scarlett takes a tumble was a good one. Yeah, you can't forget that one. Yeah, double the double rainbow, all that kind of stuff there. There are some hits out there. I think I'm pretty sure we can find some of those and just create a playlist of just here are the viral moments that you might have forgotten from in the ancient days of what 2009 chat has too many going by that you got to give them to me later. Okay.
Evolution of dance, right? Yeah, that's a big one. Okay. All right, Brandon. How are you?
This is great. Yeah, I mean, that's the last name treatment. I asked for that, but I didn't. I didn't ask for that. That's I said this. I actually Tyson said this a couple of days ago that I said this to him. I'm tired of the new era. People. Oh, how take alert? You know, I love the new. I was in. I mean, for a minute, I was in the new era. You were there. I don't like the asking for things.
Yeah, like I think it maybe it didn't happen as much old era, but I don't like that. And I love Gabe. And I love the Ray Lewis dance. I don't love Ray Lewis. I don't stand by some of those actions, but I don't like that. Like, can I do a dance, right? Just do the dance, you know, Rome. Can I sit in your, I think maybe Jeff off. I think Jeff offered. He's not supposed to ask to sit in the seat. He's supposed to get up and push him off the chair. It's my time.
I think you should just do it. Just do it. You know, Jeff, get out the way. Oh, no. Yeah. I'm over the asking. I think just, you know, season 49, if you're listening to this and you're watching, you heard it. You heard it here first, Brandon Donland says consent, not necessary. Nope. And also the new era. He's a little bit over it. Any other hot takes?
Yeah, Susan Boyle, I can get a call about as to the soil to the soil. Yeah, no, in sense, because it sounds awesome. But just when you're on survivor, no, not just but just this is, you know, we'll cut this. This is fine.
Yeah, that's funny. You should ask Jeff to do anything. Just do the thing you want to do. Just do it. And then if it doesn't work, they're going to say, no, no, what are you doing? Right? Check that rice out your pocket. Stop dancing. You know, Emily Flippin didn't ask to dance. She just started to shake. She just started dancing, OK? And honestly, new era, Jeff.
He pretends to be spicy, but he's a little bit of a pushover, you know? Okay, I need four of you to sit out of a challenge. Really? No. Huh? Okay, can I be three? No. Can we give you a shot in dark? No. Can we all give you a shot in dark? Okay, you crazy kids. Do what you want. I was like, Jeff, what happened? What happened? What are we doing here? Yeah, Jeff doesn't demand anything anymore. He just, just take whatever you want from him. Jeff hasn't been too spicy. He, he like a 46 with like peak spicy, Jeff. And then, I don't know, it feels like,
Have you ever seen anything that's spicy in 47? He had the knife in 47. Don't make me get it. He's like a grandparent now. He's like, oh, back in my day, I used to be really strict, but now I'm this new generation. You don't really do the things that you used to do. He's like, he's not really good.
I just thought after 46, he was going to get progressively spicier. Brandon, I thought that the 40s was like an episode of Hot Ones. I thought it was like, okay, all right, here's, oh, we're bringing this one out. Okay, now we did, but they don't go backwards in the Scoville. We didn't hit the bomb. Normally, you know, around the eighth round, you hit the bomb. We didn't do that.
No, I think Jeff's maybe the transition into like a subtle spicy. And again, not to reference Dave's dance again, but go look at Jeff during Dave's dance. Jeff, Jeff didn't, didn't love the dance. And he didn't have to say anything about it. You know, he's just like in your own face. He was like, yeah.
But not like the De Niro face of seasons past, you know, just a couple seasons ago, we got De Niro face, which I believe Danny did ask. No, I mean, I'm talking about Jeff's reaction to De Niro face. Oh, yeah. And Danny did say like, Hey, can I do De Niro face? Yeah.
Yeah, maybe that's where it started, the asking is like, you just, you know, just open with Daenera, just do Daenera, you know? Yeah, he likes the audacity. Just like, step into your own, okay? We're about to be 50 years old here on Survivor, okay? Survivor 50 is coming. I don't need to come on here and try to prompt the players to do outrageous things. Y'all wanna keep the show going just as much as Jeff does. Do your thing. Step out there. Do your right, Louis, dance, whatever it is you gotta do. And Jeff is gonna tell you whether or not it's too far. Rachel, the rice, too far. The dancing.
I'll go for it. It's fine. Sit in my chair. We can talk about it. Yeah. So you referenced Gabe said at the end of the episode, I'll be back. What do you think about going completely the opposite direction? What if a survivor play gets voted out and says, I'm never coming back. Okay. You got me. I'm not coming back. You know what? Peace. Chappelle, it's a win-win.
Because either, either you never come back and they say like, well, they wanted me. I tell them, I tell them, I'm never coming. I'm a man of my word. I said I'm never coming back. Or two, like they do, they like, oh, we need you back. Like, it looks like that they, you know, they bet. You feed upon his desk, you know, you're like, oh, yeah.
It's funny to see you on my phone, a patch of man, you know. That would be great. I agree. I agree. I think it's like, man, you were such a dynamic character. Yeah, I was, but you'll never see me again. That's it. I'm leaving. I'm never coming back. You're like, well, since you say it like that, it'd be cool if we got him back. Wouldn't it come back? You know, like, yeah, you got to act like you don't want it. Like, all right, come on, come on, come on back. Yeah, I like that better.
I ain't never coming back. Hey, can I leave it? Can I de Niro face it? Well, you're like, yeah, pretty good, right? It was pretty good. Yeah, it was pretty good. You got to leave him wanting more my good friend, Hannah Rose, leaving the leaving the tribal council. She yelled if there's edge of extinction, I'm not going. Yeah, that's the way you got. And while I cast aside, I'm not even going to stop it in the chain. Just leave me alone. And you know what? If there was edge of extinction,
She wouldn't have gone. She's leaving. She would have been the first person at that little path. You know, Reem gets that torch and she's like, I'm in, you know, Keith's soul, he's in. Banana. That was a two-part episode. That was a cliffhanger about Keith. I was like, he's please stop crying. It just picked up something, please. Oh, yeah. He was crying and praying and throwing up. Brandon Donovan, would you, would you, would you go back? I don't think I've ever asked you this question. Yeah. I, it's my favorite thing in the world. I could go back tomorrow. I would go into the edge of extinction.
A thousand percent, but I love the edge of extinction. I did all of my interviews. I talked about how much I love the education. One would argue I would have maybe done better in an environment where you just kind of have to buy for a little bit. You know, I would have loved that. I would have. When people over.
Yeah, I would have had a ream experience. I just, you know, I was, I was chilling, you know, the, the elements, elements were, were fine. You know, I could sleep fine. I was, I was chilling. So I would have loved an edge of extinction. Yeah. All right. Well, let's, let's talk about where we're at right now in a club condo. And so we just saw Gabe voted out of the game and Gabe was somebody who was in a
pretty good position. I mean, certainly from as the players were looking at him, Gabe had said that he felt like that. If he could just get to the final eight, the game was going to be his. This was his big stumbling block to get through. I'd love to talk a little bit about the position of like these front runners coming into the like home stretch of survivor in the new era because Brandon, it seems like a place you do not want to live.
Yeah, I think I mean, referencing your confessional article. Yes. Thank you. Reality TV newsletters. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that, yeah, the weird new meta we're now in is that you don't want to be like total underdog. You don't want to be top dog. You don't want to be viewed as a top dog. You kind of just want to, you want to be closer to bottom than you are top certainly, but you want to be in that little, that little midsection, if you will.
Yeah, Chappelle, if survivor in the new era was like the NFL, like you want to be probably at like around this point in the season, like five and eight, not a bad place to be if you're a survivor team. Yeah, but you still got to make the playoffs, right? And that's the thing. So you want to be in the wild cards, right? Like it's like, can I be in the finale? You want to be like the seventh wild card.
Right. Exactly. Can I be in a finale? Sure. Is it? Should we take you seriously in a finale? Maybe not. But if you have this Cinderella story as run, then no one can deny you, but you don't want to be the team that everybody either like knows that you're the front runner far and away or everybody pursues, perceives you to be a front runner. That's the problem with my favorite team. Every season we go and people like, this is the year you got it. And we're like, no, no, no, don't say that. Don't say that. That's not true. This is not stop it. Stop it. They're doing the right.
And then, you know, people start watching you and they're like, oh wait, you got to look beatable all of a sudden. He's like, no, no, no, not that anything but that. You want to sneak in to the finale just because the two cools coming in four deep. It really did put a target on the back. Like Gabe talks about being in a good position, but he's not wrong. It was always going to meet this one spot where you have five people looking at four people saying, do we want to keep all four of these people here? We would be crazy to do that. He even said, I'm sorry.
If they managed to let me get past this round, it would be insane for me and my three allies to get to this point in the game. And so they had to shut it down. Yeah. And shut it down. They did ultimately that Gabe went home brand and that. How do you feel about Gabe, the character that we've seen here through these first 10 episodes?
I, you know, I enjoyed, I enjoyed Gabe. I enjoyed Gabe coming in saying he wanted to Mount Rushmoret, right? And he's, you know, he's finding idols, week one, he's finding idols, you know? And then you get to see Gabe progress. And I think we were building to like Gabe's big move, right? Gabe's big move. Gabe's Mount Rushmoret. And although I don't think that happened, I think it's an interesting like story in the meta of survivor and the meta of specifically new era survivor, where you have people wanting to come in with
blank resume, refill out the resume, get the job at, you know, Fortune 500. And although Gabe didn't do that, I think it's an interesting case study into like that mentality and that like belief that you can do that. And even, you know, Gabe's last second on the show is final words. He's saying, you know, I'll be back here. Like, I can do it. I will do it. And I think that mentality is something that you have to have in Survivor, but maybe like a little bit less than what Gabe had.
Like, I think that there's something maybe missing from the resume of all bullets that the level of confidence, you have to be confident, but the level of confidence is maybe something that there's a little bit left to be desired there.
Yeah, Chappelle, for me, I think that had Gabe come into the merge, like down in the numbers, like had it been like him and Sue and Carolyn, like his hero, Russell Hance, that if it was just like them three coming in and they could have been sort of seen as a little bit more of like the underdogs, like I think it could have been a different story for Gabe.
Yeah, but that's the problem when, you know, we've been watching Survivor for so long and the, you know, the primary belief was that you come in with numbers, you know, you want to hit the merge with your tribe intact so you can decimate the other tribe, but now in the new era, it's like, hey, you wanna...
Yeah, but you want to have your tribe intact, but only the ones that you like. You're like, I didn't eat these three. Because when we come in, we got two other tribes that are going to be like trying to pick off who's next in line. And you're going to say, OK, well, we need to double team the biggest tribe that's left. And if it's you, they're going to start to come after you. And so it felt like they were aware of that. They were trying to mitigate that. Like, OK, we got to cut somebody. At least we could cut Kyle. Caroline's talking about, well, at least they start to cut two cools. It won't be one of us. So they were aware that was the perception
But I think three has been winning the day these last couple of seasons, right? Ever since Jam Jam, they built this, you know, this structure of like, okay, it's just the three of us. And then we saw the same thing with Dee and her crew eventually. Yeah, but you know, you'd be willing to cut the one person. Like now the two cools are dangerous because if they can work together, you know, they're a tight three. Now, I don't know if they can work together because you might not have heard this, but Sue and Kyle.
Yeah. They're not really on site page. Yeah, that's gonna be interesting to see where that goes from here with Kyle and Sue, because we had the really great segment in the episode of that Andy goes to talk to Sue. And first of all, I think that that is a hilarious duo that I'm looking forward to hopefully seeing more of. Brandon, how would you describe the pairing of Andy and Sue?
I think, you know, everybody dreams and survivor, you know, if you're the Malcolm, you want to find your Denise, right? And maybe this is the partnership that, you know, some people who have, you know, not to say that they've had difficulty communicating with other people. Sure. But maybe, maybe they're the secret sauce that each other needs. Maybe they're going to lock in from now. And nothing bonds to people together like an enemy. And although Andy's enemy is in Kyle, Andy knows that Sue's enemy is Kyle.
And that's what you, that's how you bring people together. You know, most friendships that I've ever had in my life, elementary school, high school, you get to somebody and then you're like, look at that. Like, look at, you know, I didn't. And then, and then you got best friends for the rest of your life. So I'm all in on this strap. All right. I don't know how this is going to work on the podcast. I, I cut the whole Sue talking about Kyle segment. And so let's listen in and maybe we pause and stop down and see what's there. Okay.
Okay. That's why I don't even listen when he talks. I'm like, I want to kill you, Kyle. He is a liar. He does the poor me. They're always me. How many times do we have to hear that he's poor? I'm a good guy. I'm a dad. I'm a dad. He's so hypocritical. Done. As soon as Kyle's cut the happier I'll be, I will give him back his name. I'm a parchment. He brought my name back. He didn't feel bad. Like I can't even look at Kyle.
because he wrote my name down he wrote my name down he wrote my name down he wrote my name down he wrote my name down he wrote my name down he wrote my name down he wrote my name down he wrote my name down he wrote my name down he wrote my name down he wrote my name down
Uh, yeah, I don't know. Uh, Kendrick got some hate in his heart, but I don't know if he has this much hate in his heart. Like, so didn't even need lyrics. It was just the same words over and over and over again. It was like, it was like a daily affirmation. She wakes up in the morning just like, I hate Kyle. He wrote my name down.
If I could make a request to the survivor hive mind, could somebody auto tune this and get this out there as a Sue diss track? That would be really incredible. And also...
Yes. We do have a wand off coming. Yes. The wand off is coming. The one of two weeks, two weeks from tonight is going to be the wand off survivor 47 and you can make your submissions for the wand off. But we could that one could be sort of like the appetizer.
Yeah. If somebody wants to drop a diss track on here, you know, uh, and it's, and it happens to be so soothing. I would listen to it. Could we get on this graphic? Yeah. Rob is a website. I got such wand off and we could like, uh, get that call to action on there. Okay. Um, Brandon, what I thought was amazing about that Kyle, uh, said, wrote my name down montage, uh, evocative of an happy Maria, uh, certainly. So,
Have we ever seen what in the montage that we've gone back and like cut people who are already out of the game back into the episode? Have we ever seen this before?
I, and again, I love to be a survivor historian. I think, no, I think this is the first time, because I was whiplash by Tiana. I see Tiana singing there too. Oh, Rome was in there also. What is very interesting to me is I wonder, does Sue still feel this like hate in her heart in the event that Kyle didn't vote for her? If Kyle throws a vote elsewhere, is Sue still mad at Kyle in the same way? Is Sue still mad at the, the, the, you know,
poor me, I'm a dad, whatever, is she, does she hate him's the same level is my question. I wonder, you know, and we'll never know, but I wonder if it's a personality thing that is then compounded by a vote or a vote that then ever, you know, when you're around somebody and they wrong you, it's like everything they do, you know. Why else could she dislike him so much?
Well, I mean, she listed different attributes that she wasn't, you know, a fan of, but I think Brandon has a point. It's one of those things where if you dislike somebody, everything that they do would get under your skin, you know, like you over there eating crackers and they like, look at this bitch eating crackers. You know, that's exactly how it comes off. Because she's like, he's always like, poor me, woe is me, you know, all this other stuff. And those are separate.
to him writing her name down. So it's like, does she still feel so strongly about him and all those other things she says? Oh, he's always talking about how he's a family man. I'm tired of hearing about it. Is she tired of hearing about it? If he doesn't write her name down, I think, you know, the question is valid. Yeah. And then here comes Andy with his gas can. Oh my God. Trying to make things worse, passing along this little chestnut. So Kyle, he
He calls you in Caroline Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum. Really? He does, yeah. I didn't think that was very nice. No, not nice at all. Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dee Dum. Do you want her? I'd probably be like, you, you. We got to play what the bleep, uh, so we got to know what she actually is saying. Okay, yeah. All right. Let's listen back. Okay. Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dee Dum. No, not nice at all. Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dee Dum. Do you want her? I'd probably be like, you, you.
I think it's certainly an F you you It could be anything MF MF I think
Yeah. Hey, home. Sure. I don't know. You have a third option, Chappelle. Could it be anything else? The whole word is like it's not like a son of a bleep. Oh, yeah. It's just like the ones move. Like, yeah, I don't know. It's bad. Whatever she's saying, producers are obviously not like, Hey, you shouldn't say that. I don't know. Give us more. Please, please keep going. Is this is the beeping or the horn, whatever we're hearing? Is that new or has that been around before? And I'm forgetting that.
It seems seemingly new. I think they've done other like devices. They've like sort of like had like a drum beat in that spot. But I don't know why she's getting like the truck horn.
This is when Spongebob learned bad words. Go watch that at Paramount+. You guys have it. They do a similar thing. It's like you hear the dolphin screech or you hear a sound that's like this.
Yeah. Yeah. I told you it was an old man, Jenkins and his jalape. You know, just when you think that he's done cursing, you know, this man shows up in his trash car. I love this, but I love this more for baby Andy, you know, baby Andy's putting his social game to work. He's out here planting seeds now. He's like, Hey, I didn't think that was very nice. I was like, Oh, I probably will stop. I would have broke character if I was. Hey, baby Andy leave, leave the hate into us. You know, this, you try. That was very cute.
Okay, so assuming Andy is telling the truth about how Kyle told me that he calls you Tweedledee and Tweedledum. What's with these, like, Alice in Wonderland insults Brandon? I mean, why is this a topical reference for Kyle?
Yeah, I've just got Disney Plots and he was binging on the plane over there. He knows what it is because he has little, he's a family man because he has a little family man. He's like, his reference in blue, he is tribal council. We don't have the votes. I tell you, Gabe, he's mad as a hatter.
Well, what is a better, uh, you know, insult if you're talking about a pair of people, right? And you kind of want to put them down. Cause you remember that and dumber. That's not just as old as Alison Wonderland, Rob. It's not as long as bro. Yeah, act like dumb and dumber is recent. It's not recent, but Alison wonderland is like from the 40s.
I mean, listen, at this point, once you hit 30 years, it could all just be old, Rob. I'm talking about anything within the last decade or two, y'all, please. Yeah. It's listen, we're going to sell. I think we just celebrated 30th anniversary, dumb and dumb. I think Alice in Wonderland, I think, is older than Graham. The book. If it's the book. Yeah. I mean, what was the fooling around for all of these properties? All I'm saying is for her, she's seen them all when they were fresh. NBC News is busy buying it. She fells going to say that's old too.
Is it it, is it not? You know what I'm talking, y'all. We can't find nothing from the, I don't know, 2020s, the 20s, the 20s. But what do you got? Nothing, that's why I'm asking y'all. There's no two dumb people anymore.
Right. Like, uh, be even, but had I will say because it is a Viacom product. So they could, they could have easily air that, you know what I mean? That, that I think is maybe the best that we're going to get in terms of a duo, a dumb duo. Who's a dumb duo? I don't think we do dumb duos anymore. That's my point. I don't think, I don't look, Kyle had like four references he could have used.
Are we smart duos? All right. Top 10 most lovable, idiotic duos in movies and TV. Okay. This is a list put together by Jacob Cooper, man. Number one, one, I'm like Steve Harvey. Yeah. No, me. Top 10 answers on the board. Name name a lovable, idiotic duo.
Give me, give me SpongeBob and Patrick or that. That's number two. Oh, what answer. Lloyd Christmas and Harry done. Dumb and dumber. Number three, Beavis and butt head. Number four, Shaggy and Scooby-Doo. That's disrespectful. Number five, Ren and Stimpy. Oh, yeah. Number six, Bill and Ted. Number seven, Wayne and Garth.
number eight, Timon and Pumba. I don't know. I don't know Josh Red Grove and Parker Dinkleman. I don't know this. And number 10, this might be your most recent reference to Harold and Kumar.
Listen, all of these references were old. I don't understand why we're acting like any of these are new. My point was, let's not pick on Kyle because listen, listen, you gotta reach back at least 25 years before you get your first reference. Spongebob ain't new. It's been all forever. It's just like Scooby-Doo. And I think it's disrespectful to Scooby and Shaggy. I would call them dumb. They just be on substances and that's okay.
as our Harold and Kumar. Right. You know, some of these people need to be eliminated from the list. Maybe tomorrow in Pumbaa. I don't know what they've been doing in this spare time. We don't know. Yeah. All right. Caroline and Sue giving Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dee Dum. What's the more behind them both? Are they even dumb? Tweedle Dee are dumb. I think they're dumb. I think they're dumb. Tweedle. They're dumb. Yeah, they're dumb. I don't know if they say that anymore.
I don't know what they do that makes them dumb. Like I don't know what their job is. I think they can't even like put together a sentence.
Oh, yeah, that doesn't seem to be Caroline and Sue at all. That doesn't know. They're great. Caroline's, you know, they're great at sentences. I guess I have to agree. It sounds like Andy made it up. It sounds like Andy was just like, sheep and talk a trash about you. What did he say? He called you, I don't know, Tweedledee and Tweedledum. What? Oh my God, I'm going to kill him. You know, like, because I just, I don't know. It just feels like that. This is Tweedledee and Tweedledum.
Right. So you don't know which is which. This does not look like Caroline and Sue to me. Where's the dirt? No. What's interesting to me about this particular image is that I do think there is not a single difference unless this is a like spot the difference game, but there's no, there's no discernible difference between two and three of them, which is something that if you're an Alice in Wonderland aficionado, maybe you'd know. Yeah, that looks fun.
Yeah. So it's like, you have to find an iconic duo, but also it had to be a shady reference to an iconic duo, right? Because you could have pulled like a, this is a yellow, like them and Louise, because they're like super tight. It's also old. But yeah, I just don't think that we're like, we're not giving our kind of duos the treatment that they used to have, you know, like Brandon dropped Malcolm and Denise earlier, but that's the whole time. Like when are people going to be on Survivor? Like, I need to find the shan to my record. You know what I'm saying?
relieve nobody's like come out of the woodwork like on the survivor Reddit of like here's a clip of Rob C calling Heidi and Jenna Tweedle D and Tweedle Dom this week. Oh yeah. Did you do that? I think so.
You bought them a lot of stuff. But I would have been 20 years ago. That was like a more topical reference. More timely for sure. And if I would have said dumb and dumber, then that would have been Chappelle, like, right? Right. In the sweet spot. Right. Exactly. Now it's like... Couldn't be the name of the episode. He threw out a Britney Spears reference, right? That was timely. That's a year or two. You know, that's great. Nobody... I'm trying to think of the last...
like pop culture reference that was timely. Like that's right. It's hard to see if it's going to happen, Brandon. It's going to happen in the odd number season. Sure. Nobody on season 47 had the foresight to mention wicked in any capacity, knowing that wicked was coming out in the fall. Maybe that's what people should do. People that are going to play on like survivor 49 should look ahead and be like, okay, what movies are coming out fall, especially paramount.
Like Kane kind of did this with the Dungeons and Dragons thing. Sure. Sure. Yeah, he was on the front. He was ahead of her. This is next level of lookout. Let's go look at the fall 2025 movies. What's opening Wicked Two? Wicked Two. Wicked Two is this week next year. If you're in the final nine, Elphaba, you got to throw it out there.
Yeah, it's too good. For good, too good. That's one of the songs in the act. Yeah, let's see. November 2025 movies. Okay. Okay. And they're only making remakes now. So it's hot. It's a Minecraft movie, but I think that's going to be. Hmm. That's another Superman movie. Oh, another Captain America, Frankenstein.
Frankenstein. That's timely, right? Yeah. It just came out. Okay. So, you know, there's some stuff. Okay, full workshop that.
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Rob, are you impressed with baby Andy now that he's in this position of power? He's talking about how he's like a spider and he's like crawling from his prey to this, this is his victim and this is his victim. Rob, our boy might be making a run at this thing. I mean, Andy's in a great position, but I think that Andy, while he probably had the best of the three sort of like
monologuing to the camera moments from gata. I thought it was interesting that we had in this episode all three of the gata tribe people each had like their own confessional talking about it's all going it's all turning up my way everything is coming up me that I was down but now I'm back.
Really, it was, we had Andy in the beginning of the episode. There's a Sam segment where he's like, Andy wants to work with me, teeny wants to work with me. Like, should they know I'm probably going to betray him tomorrow, but today it's all coming up me. And Rachel got one of those also.
Yeah, I'm loving it. I love it. Cause they're like, they're like jam, jam screw. They don't want to work together. And they're just being forced in the same space. But like, God, I keep trying to vote you out. I keep betraying you and yet here we are. That's going to be that strong three that sits at the end problem. Well, that's a great question, Chappelle Brandon. Is it possible that we could have an all got to final three Andy Sam Rachel? Is that is that possible?
I see it very much. I mean, Chappelle said earlier in this podcast that like the three now that is Tuku could could run it, but there's already a three that exists. You know, like, are these three coexisting with the other three? Who knows? My winner pick is Caroline. I can see a world where Caroline jumps over potentially leaves her three joins that three. And you know, there's still
seven, six days left in the game, and eight, seven, six is where you lose the power players a lot of the time. So this is, if anybody's gonna strike against the God of three, the God of three includes those power players, this is the time to do so. So who knows? It does seem like narratively though, we are getting Act three, regardless of what happens, is the story of the God of three, I think, with your other characters that are there.
and maybe they invade and then they, they champion this thing or not. But this story, I think is very God of heavy. Yeah. We got to go back. Chappelle. Okay. Go back where? How far are we going back? That's, that's, that's what their tagline should be. The three of them. We got to go back. It's like the season three is the, it was the future.
Yeah, they got to take us, they got to take us back to where it all began, right? It started, it started episode one where we had to bring each other in the past. No, and that's the final three. We jumped ahead. Yeah. Gabe says, right, when he's getting burned out, like I'll be back, right? And his final words is like, I'm coming back to do this. Do you think you have a better shot if we got to go back and got to pitches after the season? Like, Hey, you need all of us.
bring the three of not. Yeah. Bring the sex. Bring back to love it. And, and, and on America, and on America, and Sierra. Hell yeah. Congratulations. Sierra on engagement. Congratulations. So who are they saying this to? One of the ones to go back and they say like, Hey, we're package deal.
We're back as you. They can't say no to all of us, right? It's like when you leave class early, they can't, we all can't get in trouble. So just send it, say, hey, we're only going if we're all there. And it does the work for them. They already know what they all look like on the mat together. Are you watching this show, Brandon? They might be saying that in the group chat and each one of them is like, I'm the only person that's gonna come back. I'm telling them all that it's all good, but I'm the one who's really pulling all the strings. I'm the only one who's going back.
That's why it's great healing. Bring them back. 50, let's just do a tribe of them. Just throw the whole tribe on it. And on this tribe, Gotta. I like it. I have more faith in the Gotta three to make it to the end in the Tuku because you think about it. Caroline has already betrayed the Tuku's at this point, it betrayed Sue, but Sue hates Kyle. Kyle is a immunity beast. And so it's like if Kyle loses,
Even if I did have this tight alliance with him, I'd even I'd be looking at like, get a little get to the end with six or seven immunity wins. What are we doing here? We've got to get rid of them. Okay. Yeah. I'm glad you brought that up, Chappelle. So Brandon Donlin, a historian of this sport. Here we have Kyle for immunity wins. Could you contextualize this at all for us?
I mean, pretty major. Yeah. Like, we only have a couple people in survivor history. I think who, I mean, who has five? Who has five immunity wins? I think, I mean, like, are we counting multiple seasons? No, one season. One season. One season. Terry has five. Terry had five in Panama. Terry, for sure. Does Joe Anglum have five in second chance?
I don't think so. Yeah. Did he get the five in game changers? Oh, that's right. That is correct. That is correct. Dr. Five. And is that it? Is it Brad and five? No, my call away Aziz will.
Mike. Yeah, I'm forgetting. I'm now more invested in people who won zero challenges. I'm, I'm wondering fill out in my group chat. So I've, I've left a lot of this and Colby. Yeah. Colby when five, five also. My boy, Tom Westman, I believe is a five, five timer. Yeah. Somebody in the chat knows for sure. Yeah. Thank you. Josh Kettles is here. And so it's Colby Terry. I think I read call pepper. Mike Holloway is five. Nobody has six.
We got him. Yeah. If Kyle's two away, if Kyle hit six, does he automatically go to survivor 50?
You would hope, you would hope so. So let's see, Colby has gone back, Tom's gone back, Terry's gone back, Ozzy's gone back. Yeah, I think that you, I think that, I think that that is such a moment. If it happens, Jeff makes it such a moment that Kyle then permeates the casual viewers mind. And then Kyle is on every single casual Facebook posts. All you see is like, Kyle's it. You got to have Kyle.
I think that that's really there's a lot of stakes in these like next couple of immunity challenges where Chappelle, like it's sort of like that with all due respect to Kyle, you know, that I don't think that he's on his pathway to win. But these, these immunity challenges really do hold like a lot of stakes for him, I think.
They do, and because of that, I really think that someone smarter than me should get into the details of these challenges and find out who is the best of the best, because just because you win immunity, it doesn't mean that you have an equal playing field across the board, right? I'm not even talking about your competitors. I'm talking about the amount of people you're competing against, right? Is it harder to win immunity if you're at the final eight versus the final four? Is it something where we have split the tribe in half and you were only competing against three other people?
Uh, is there a male and a female winner of this challenge? You know, like now that we have the data, somebody needs to go in and figure it out, you know, cause Kyle has four wins, but his four wins at the same as Terry's four wins. You know, Terry had his back up against the wall for a very long time. Same thing with Tom. Uh, Mike, Mike Holloway for the love of God. I mean, you know, his whole story is his back against the wall, but he had an advantage in one of the challenges too. So I think it all, it all adds up to somebody to go when they make this granular,
Yeah. Look, the ball is juiced, maybe, but if he gets to six, I think he's going back to six. Six is six, man. Uh, yeah. I don't, I don't think anybody would complain about it either. It would make sense. I think something like this is, this is your resume that you go to Jeff with and say, like, Hey, I know you want to bring back all six of the data's, but have, I have an immunity win for each of them. And you're like, well,
Can't argue with that. You know what I'm saying? Where there's other people where you're like, do you really want to see this person come back? Do you really want? It's like, I got my resume right here. Six of these bad boys in a row. Well, six, well, I guess he skipped one, but yeah, six of them is tough. It's hard to beat.
Yeah, it's in a, in season 50 is, you know, there's a pool of almost 800 people at a pick from. If you are the one person who holds a record like that, a record that was just beaten, it's hard to see a world where you're not red carpeted right there. Yeah. And especially you broke a record a year before the season 50 happens. It's interesting because it's like, if this was happening like a year ago, I think we'd be like, if he wins, like, who cares? Whatever.
You know, it's interesting with that sort of like backdrop of like, oh, he could be potentially like just punch his ticket.
Yeah. And look at the evolution of the challenges that they're doing. I remember Aussie just looking like a person that was like, he's built for the jungle. Like he can climb, he can swim, he can do all this other stuff. Kyle is really good at standing in one spot. And that is cool. And that is a big part of survival is balance and, you know, being able to like hold core strength in one spot for a long time. Kyle's great at that kind of stuff. He's good at other challenges too. But like when you start to compare them, you're like,
I don't know. I don't know if he could beat an Aussie in Aussie's prime. I don't know if he could beat a Mike Holloway. Like, these are questions that I would like to have the answers to. Well, he easily could have won five. He easily could have won the one where he lost a game where it was heads up. But what has he done? He's balanced. He balanced the ball in the bow. He balanced the ball on the plate. That was that was two of them.
All right, and then like one of them Sue really could have either maybe but we don't know he wasn't this one, right? But that's what he lost. Oh that he lost that. Yes. Yeah, that's the one he lost. And I'm trying to think of what they did. They did this thing. They did the polling thing. Is that right? They did. They did hold on the grip strength one. Yeah, the grip shaft. That was another one that he won. And I'm trying to think of what the fourth one is.
that he won. I think I'm complaining this because I think this is this week. Yeah. And then that was the one he came in third actually that he actually that teeny and Genevieve beat him out on that. But, but they've all been like stay still. He hasn't like had to go swim or like gather anything together and not say that he couldn't do that. But it's been pretty similar immunity challenges so far here in 46.
We're in his skill set. This is his era. They used to say it was like, oh, if you're going to be brother, you have to be good at carnival games. And now people are telling you, it's the grip strength maybe here on Survivor now. But there was a time where you had to be able to run and jump and swim. And then God forbid a puzzle come up. But you had to be challenged. Look, we might need reindeer games for Survivor now. In the off season, yeah, Brandon Donald and the first contestant. You put us up there, put a ladder in there and say, let's go.
Yeah. All right. Well, we saw the survivor contestants come in and come into this immunity challenge and Rachel, very quickly, I did what was going on here. You're involved, Jeff. I swear. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
This guy loves balls. Love balls. He just can't. He can't help himself. When there's one ball, he's like, yeah. Containable. But when he, when you get the two balls, Jeff is giddy. Maybe this is spicy, Jeff. I feel like we haven't done a lot of this in the new era. No, I think it's really consistent. Well, for a while, pre new era, we were very ball heavy. There was a lot of. Yes. There was a lot of balls.
And there was a last poll too. Do you remember Paul? Like make sure you hold your poll. Do I remember? Do you remember Paul? I remember. I remember the poll in the balls. Yeah, it used to be Paul and Bob back in the day. Back in the day. Yeah. And a little bit of a throwback this week to some of that as Jeff described the action. It just got a whole lot harder with two balls.
Real. I mean, real real real real. Yeah. Yeah. It got really complicated though. When he added that third ball, he was like, now grab three. I was like, whoa, I mean, how do you even practice for something like this? Not easy. I've never grabbed three. I'm old. Yeah, I got to get a 3D printer for this kind of day. I'm going to get cars on the phone. Yeah. And then when you have to the real challenge and if they start going in opposite directions, it's even more difficult. Yeah.
You betcha. I've been there. That's not. What's the answer to that problem? I don't know. What are they going like all over the place? You know, like I think he even talks about a breeze blowing or like an if the breeze picks up like Jeff is please have some decorum. We can see you. Yeah.
Yeah. You know, and he, he, he, this is a family friendly show, but you know, just like not to reference SpongeBob again, but sometimes in SpongeBob, there's jokes just for the parents, you know, you're watching with your kids and parents are giggling. You know, that's what this says. Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
All right. So there was also a reward challenge in this episode that also featured balls prominently in this challenge. We saw these survivors have to move like a worm and knock the ball up and down the rolling hills. And we saw some emergent gameplay this week as baby Andy, look at what this guy can do. It's grown ass, man.
baby Andy don't mess around. He ain't been a baby in a long time. Okay, this is like the third episode of baby Andy just showing you like, nah, stop calling me that. This is this image is a testament to, you know, there are people in this orbit, people who are listening to this right now, you know, six months later.
It could be you. And he's at the know-it-alls during season 45, right? And then, you know, six months later, he's got ball and mouth. Ball and up the hill, you know? Listen, it could be you. Brandon, you sound like the Jeff commercials that he does now. And if you two want to ball on your mouth, you get some armor. Apply for survival right now. Get that ball on your lips and push it up to you. Let's go.
They'll make it slow mo. They'll really make a meal out of this. But listen, it can happen. It's right here. This is a guy we know. We know him. And he's out there balling it off to the face. But what is the strategy here, though? What is he trying to do? Because he's trying to bite the ball.
is that, so my interpretation of this, and now that I'm looking at the ball less so, trying to grip like fabric is what I'm thinking. Yeah, I think it's like a lion. Yeah, like play with a basketball in front of the dog. And then the dog is like trying to like, I'm going to pick it up. Yeah, sure. Yeah. I think that's what's good. That's what's going on, but he did it.
Did he do it? He did do it. I agree. I didn't think that he did it. But if he did, and I missed it, then I retract. Yeah. I don't think he did it. They go in slow motion that they, like Sam, can we get the gift of this? See, he gets it. I don't think he gets it. I think he like puts his face on it.
He ate that. He did that word. Yeah. Look, at least in the chat. Yes, he did it. Oh, at least he did it. All right. Get me the gifts in the chat. Yeah. Mike Bloom tweeted it. Mike Bloom tweeted the clip. I'm Mike Bloom's Twitter. Okay. Not you. I meant, I meant not to boss people out of the room. Yeah. All right. Fine. Yeah. Find that for me. And we could see. Okay. Uh, Jason, I'm jealous of the ball. Okay. Uh, Jase.
If I had a little spray bottle, spray bottle. Come on, Jace. This is a family podcast. Keep it to yourself. Yeah. I mean, so baby Andy between this stuff with the ball, did you see last week when it looked like he was kind of like a, you know, pelvic thrusting dirt?
Chappelle. Bring it around to Allen. I knew he was loyal to the soil. Oh, yeah. Well, he showed you just how loyal. Okay. He's not no two-pump chump. He gets down in the deep.
rolling in the deep. Yeah. Okay. All right. So, yeah. So your Mike Bloom has the trilogy of Andy. Okay. Of course, Mike Bloom would have all three. Now, Andy, I don't think he's doing this on purpose. I don't think he knew this was a thing. And then who could possibly think then? All right. Yeah. But like, you know,
If he went out there with this place's idea. Okay, now the first clip is my favorite. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Then, okay, this is an oil to the soil. And then, listen, did he do it? He pushed it with his jaw.
It is a long clip. It's a really long clip. I mean, the ball goes up and over the hill. Yeah, but he didn't pick it up, you know, like. Yeah. It's certainly a strategy. Mm-hmm. I wonder, and not to be too crass, but I wonder if just like some tongue work would have helped more than full now. I think it always helped. That's what he was doing. I thought he was going to try to use his tongue as, you know, it's a very strong. I think you start with that.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Like a warm up. Yeah. Like a warm up. Yeah. And then it gets over the hump, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And if you're going to play that, I never played that challenge before. The most disconcerting part of all this was the just amount of sand on Andy and everybody's tongue. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how you recover from that.
I wouldn't. It's not for me. Tough. Tough, man. Not my scene. I'd be medevac if that happened to me. You're going to want to clean the ball before you lick it. It's going to just start like that. You're going to make sure everything is nice and sterilized before you put it in your mouth. In all seriousness, if I had a mouthful of sand, I think I'm just like,
tapping out like a medical medical. Is that what you draw the line saying to your mouth? You're wrong. I'm grain of sand in your mouth. Imagine a mouth full of sand. Yeah. I watched you eat like a side of meat with like like a piranha with your with your friends over over. That was disgusting. But do you remember that challenge? Well, I remember it. Well, they get out of each other's teeth with their mouths.
You're on, you're on like the ocean city beach in New Jersey and you have a water bottle and there's a gust of wind and it gets all up on the water bottle. Throw the garbage. Yeah. I mean, that's the worst thing in the world to me. That's, that's all. Oh, no, I'm, I'm sterilizing that bad boy. I'm spit on it. Thanks. The reward that the players went for, uh, Jeff,
set it all up so nice of what it was gonna be a reward for them at the, of course, beloved sanctuary. We're good things happening. Yeah, okay, but check out this dessert, okay? You'll have juices, you'll have iced tea and for dessert cake. Okay, cake, it's pretty good. Okay. I feel like the Jeff doesn't always give, like, I think cake would have sufficed, but no.
You want to know what kind of cake? What? Cookies and cream. Come on now. Come on now. Get hype for cookies and cream family. Jeff was hype. So I'm thinking they're going to bring in a whole sporgas board. There's going to be this huge ass cake that comes out. And he pulls this little farm below cake from underneath it. Like there's a little bitty cake that they found.
Why you call it a five below cake because it's from the store five below. They sell cakes at five below. I've never seen a bakery section. If I wanted to buy a cake that size, I would be like, yeah, maybe I should go to five below. It was like a butt like a little nothing but cake when I'm but that's like it was really tiny. You know, a large cupcake is what you're saying. Come on.
He says it with the gravitas, like he made it. Like he had a chance in making it, you know? And as far as I'm aware, he didn't. Maybe he did though. Maybe he did because he, like again, he doesn't ever just really lean into like, I guess work hard, but he's like, oh, y'all don't love this. I'm putting this cake. Brandon, could you ever imagine if that I don't reward challenge Jeff, like Ernest Lee says, and
I baked the cake that you're going to eat at the sanctuary. Like everybody would just be like losing their minds. Come on now. Yeah, you know, I guess the worst scenario there is if Jeff is present at the sanctuary and watching you eat it and it's not good. And then you're going to have to, yeah, he's doing that. And then you kind of have to just
You know, it's like that when Rachel makes the whatever she makes in that friends episode, you know, the English trifle, I think, then you have to shove that thing in there, you know? Yeah, Jeff, this is so good. I love this. And poor Sam, he's not even a Kiwi guy. You think he's a cooking cream cake guy? He's probably like...
like spitting it out. He's got his napkin. Oh, that was so yummy. Mm. Gooping it on the floor, hoping the dog comes and eats it, you know. I don't know. Yeah. Okay. I want to go to tribal council. We have this very fun back and forth with Genevieve and with Gabe coming into this tribal council of who is going to be the person that's ultimately going to go home. They both
seemed to think that it was going to be them. And Genevieve just had so many great reactions at Tribal Council this week. I asked Sam to, can you get me a slideshow of all of Genevieve's facial reactions at Tribal Council?
Okay, I don't know what we do with this, but I think we have nine facial reactions from Genevieve. Could we caption these? Yeah, are you picturing the memes from 2012, 2013? That feeling when you... This is big swatch. The big brother Instagram was doing this. So what is this reaction that she's having?
Um, that feeling when your balls separate on the plate and it gets a little harder than you thought it would. Yeah. It's just got a whole lot harder with two balls.
Yeah, that's that face. You know, I remember way back in scary movie days, you know, where they would have like the ghost face mask would get all high. And he'd be like, like, that's kind of how she looks too. Like she's very, she's very pleased with herself. Even though she's not pleased in the moment, it could be misinterpreted. I don't know. Brandon, I think what about this one is when your best friend asks Jeff if he can hit a dance real quick.
Ooh. Yeah. Yeah. I think this is, I think it's skewing a little too happy maybe, but this is maybe that feeling when you just saw your friend hit the trailer with that. Real quick. Yeah. Real quick. Okay. All right. Next slide. What happened next to Genevieve?
Hmm. Oh, wait, this might be what I said before. This might be right. This is the word. Yeah, this is how you really listen. Like you want to do what? You're together. Right. When you're sitting next to Sammy Lee adi at the wedding, when you're sitting between Q and Sammy Lee adi at the wedding, it's like what's happening. Yeah. Okay. All right. You got the glasses on. Okay. All right. What's this one?
This is, this is, and I won't say same in Laoty, but this is when, the feeling when the person who's annoying you at the wedding gets up, they go to the buffet table. So you have that like, you have the two minutes of a break, like the, no. You gotta get your mind together. You gotta get your mind, right? That's what this says to me. Okay. The feeling when, maybe that's all you need. Is this cake from five below?
They have cookies and cream I might be a cookie and cream guy. That's how it looks. Hey, what's this one? Hmm.
I don't know. This is when, you know, the day after Thanksgiving, you have like the leftovers downstairs and you don't want to wake everybody up, but they're in that really loud, like in oily thing. And then you're like 11. You're getting a brownie at 11 o'clock. Trying to get into the croissants, but that plastic thing. Yeah, it's from Costco. It's fucking so loud. It's a different decibel level. And you're like, what? Right. It's 11 a.m or 11 p.m. Love of God.
This sucks. It was already a caption. Yeah, I was a feeling in the speech for itself. Yeah. When was this? I think I was counting the bows. Can I look? Yeah. Can I look? Yeah. Uh-oh. That's the feeling when the edible kicks in. Ask me how it is. I saw I've read.
Yeah, the last one. Oh, still the sense of feeling after the animal kicks it. Yeah, it's not when, but it's after. Yeah, second later.
Okay, there's all about Genevieve. A lot of talk this week also about Saul and his Luke at tribal council. I can't remember a, first of all, I don't think I ever can remember a male juror. I don't say objectified, but thirsted for in the way that Saul coming in as a juror has been. I can't think of a person.
I tweeted this when Saul got voted out, which is even before this craziness, is that I have never seen near a 100% approval rating for somebody on Survivor in many, many years, but I have friends who are not in our orbit who watch the show
My mom, everybody is Hondo P in on sale. It's hard to get 100% approval rating. Yeah. Because to get 100% approval rating, you need everybody. You need like the earnest fans. You need the ironic fans. You need the casuals. There's a lot of, you know, it's a big tent that we have here in survivor nation. And Saul is just like, check them all off.
Yeah, got us pinch of tits, you know, he comes in and there's a in his vest. And I mean, I've seen the timeline went wild. The skates were skiing on blue sky. My skyline was full of skates. People skied it hard after they saw, you know, it's and not not for anything. The Honda P approval rating was before the vest. The vest only. Yeah. Like lift the envelope to send it. Send it. Send it. Yeah. Do we. Don't do that.
Do we have the solvest image anywhere, Sam? Not Sam Smith. I will, I will give both of you some credit though, because even last week, Sierra, when her walk in, people were like, Sierra's walking in like a woman on a mission. Yeah. Well, you know what? She felt they took the walk ins away and then they brought them back this season. We missed them. And I do. I must have missed the clamoring for let the jury walk back in.
But aren't you happy it's bad? I'm happy it's bad. I'm just surprised because I didn't feel like that it was like they're correcting something that I don't think anybody was asking them to fix, but it's been a big result so far. I'm loving it. I think that the general survivor rule I think for me and just observing the online community, if you bring back anything that has gone away, people are gonna dig it. And I think this is, I didn't see the clamoring either. I love that it's here.
I just my question about Saul is, I wonder if our outfits, are we going to have the same reaction every week? Is it going to be like, you know, like, because now, you know, he's got, he's got six more tribal. So what, what does Saul do to top this next week? Does he come in? Okay. So here is, here is Saul on the jury.
And he looks like he looks oiled up, too. Right. Yeah. Everybody was like, why is he so wet? They both are. Yeah. Yeah. I guess they both are. Yeah. Yeah. I haven't looked at Sierra once, to be honest. I just saw it because it's not in Sierra's beautiful. And I don't know if this is like some combination of like the bug spray and then also it's raining. So maybe that might lend to the glistening look here for our jury.
But what if Saul comes in next week, okay? Just no shirt, bow tie. He has to be glistening though. It's part of the outfit. When I was in college and we would have toga parties and stuff like that, you knew what was taking me seriously because not only did you have a toga, but you have to take some time to baby oil yourself up because you know, the muscles and stuff really start to pop if you glisten, you know. Q4 has been horrible for baby oil. I feel like it needs to make a comeback and it's going to take a lot.
It really is. Yeah, I mean, I like my mind went to no shirt bandana, but no shirt bowtie. You have to be no shirt and then an accessory. It tastes right. I like that. Yeah. Like a stash. All right. So we'll see what's all comes in with next week, if he's or maybe it comes in with like, what if he just came in like full like tuxedo?
I came in full address, but we're like tailored down. Like he'd have to get tailored today though, because you know, he probably lost weight on the island. Like Tuxedo, no Tuxedo shirt, just full Tuxedo and the bow tie. Yeah. Jeff might piss himself. You know, he's like, whoa, hold on. Back in my day, you know what used to do for like, like, you really want to make an impression on the jury? Like, like, have a mustache.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was it. We were out of ideas. Like what could we do on the journey? Like maybe you should like shave our beard into a mustache and like have like a really long mustache. Are you at the Amazon final tribal council with a mustache? What was your facial hair for that? I did have a mustache that well, here's like that when I was, I got voted out on day 38. And as Chappelle mentioned, we did have a toga party.
And we were like hanging out that night. And I went in and I had clippers and I shaved my beard off. But I still left a long mustache. And we were hanging out and drinking. And then Mark Burnett.
was hanging out with us. And it was like the jury and like the ponderosa people and Mark Burnett. And Mark Burnett said to me, I had my mustache. She's like, Rob, you look gay like Freddie Mercury.
You were like, thank you. I bought. It was the early days of like the internet. I didn't really like googled, you know, Freddie Mercury. I mean, super handsome. You know, I watched the, I watched the Bohemian Rhapsody. I watched the bio. I mean, I think it was like, I, I took it as a, as a compliment, but you look. Like Freddie Mercury, I guess is a fundamentally different compliment, but it, but it's Freddie Mercury's handsome.
Yeah, that's that's that's that's a you can't get better than that. Yeah, they cast Rami Malik to play him in that movie Rob. You think you're a regular Rami Malik. They did. Yeah. Look at Margaret in it. Yeah, sure. Let's try to see if I could find that picture anywhere. But that was it. That's all we had. Let's make a mustache.
I like when the players have a big reaction to the people in the jury, like looking like themselves, you know, because it's been, you know, well, back in the old era, it had been several weeks since you've seen these people, you know, looking like themselves. Now it's been like, you know, six or seven days, but back then it was a whole thing. I remember, I remember Davey walking in and people being like, whoa, you know, like, you know, he cleans up pretty well. There's been a bunch of really big reactions. I think, um,
there were a few like I think when Andrea walked in we might have got a big reaction from one of uh one of the amigos in that in that episode uh yeah that'd probably be a good list for my blown to go through too branny i'm sure you can help with that too the biggest reaction to the jury walking in i'm thinking i think this is this feels like the biggest one for sure but there's got to be there's got to be smaller ones i mean they show teeny teeny's teeny's shock teeny's looking wow
Yeah. It's like, y'all just saw this man like a couple weeks ago. It wasn't, you know, he, he, I mean, you just saw him yesterday, but he looked like there's like a few weeks ago. It wasn't that long. Yeah. He's got, he's got raised this guy. So it's got, you know, unlimited risk. Unlimited. Wow. Wow. Unlimited. Yeah. Yeah. Unlimited Aura points and Riz. Yeah.
Incredible. I love Aura Points. Aura Points is my favorite. Who's on TikTok? Who's making alpha? Yeah. And alpha. Aura Points is so funny to me. I see a TikTok and I'll see negative Aura Points in the comments and it tickles me. It makes me laugh.
All right. Uh, let's talk about another big story this week going on about, uh, we have Sue and lots of people are wondering, Hey, every podcast around people want to know what's going on with Sue. Why so so dirty?
Carolyn said that she had been contouring. Was this makeup Rob? Yes, makeup. That's what she is doing, I guess. I didn't know that this was a thing, but apparently that these
survivor players are very resourceful and like making makeup out of the stuff on survivor who knew by the way, the very fun interview with Carolyn if you haven't checked that one out. I really was very proud of how that one came out, but check out what Sue had to say. Sue tells us
just so everyone's aware. I never have and never plan on killing anyone. It's all love. Welcome to the game of survival. It's all love unless you write my name down. I thought it was. I thought I was pulling up the tweet about her makeup about. So she has confirmed that she'd been using the dirt as makeup because I know Carolyn said here. I was like that they talked about it.
Yes, okay. All right. I went down a rabbit hole of Sue's Twitter about talking about the dirt. We can't see your mics no more. Sam, where's the tweet about Sue talking about the dirt?
I think it's innovative to sit around and think, okay, I got all this time. I wonder if I can yassify myself with a little mud on the face, you know, before the tribal council. I'm sorry, Rob. Did Carolyn say, did Carolyn also do this? Did Carolyn contour with her also? No. She said she used, she did the Smokey Eye, right? She said she did Smokey Eye with the, with the charcoal, with the, with the embers, I guess.
I just don't be putting dirt and stuff like that on my face on purpose. Is there a survivor makeup artist? Is that a profession somebody's had? I feel like people have had it, but really for like the live reunions and stuff. Somebody on Cook Islands was a makeup artist, right? Rebecca Borman came up in my Google search. I think we're aligned with this one, yeah. Rebecca Borman, makeup artist. Look, we did it.
All right, sorry. Here is the tweet from Sue, not the one about how she's not seriously going to kill Kyle. She said, don't mind the dirt on my face. Just recovering from the motherquake.
This is the aftermath of what a tsunami looks like. Also, I was learning how to contour with the dirt. Tune in tomorrow. Now, I will say that this is giving a little Tweedledy and Tweedledy. I don't think that either of them are dumb, but it does look like they're wearing the same
The same outfit. Yeah. For that insult, this is too similar. Yeah. This is, you know, from what I thought this was the truth. So I don't think that they like to finish each other's sandwiches or sentences, but I do that they do look a little bit like they're like an amazing race team. Sure. But they put a mother and daughter amazing race team.
And on this leg of the race, you know, this picture here is this is egregious because Sue Sue's tweet is like, don't acknowledge the thing on my face. Don't, don't, don't, don't pay it in your mind. Like, ma'am, it's all I can see is that you have. Nope.
Well, what are you talking about? Just contour. There's nothing here. There's nothing here. That's very funny. Yeah, it's not not great. Yeah. National National Emergence May. Is that anything?
Mother Quake. Why is she that she's just recovering from the Mother Quake? Who said this tweet? Who said Sue did? No, she did. Don't mind the derivative of just recovering. But who was the Mother Quake? What Caroline did? Why is she recovering from the Mother Quake?
This is like that time you let Dominic tweet for you. Fresh grass, my G. That's how this feeling. I was like, somebody take that phone from whatever Gen Z or that will, it's like the tsunami. Like, man. Tsunami is good. To wash that off your face. Yeah. Sorry, y'all. Just fell on the motherquake. That's all this dirt on my face. You see it? Get into it. Just me, the tsunami.
Just recovering from the mother quake.
Right. Yeah. Is there an after shot coming? Yeah, I don't like this. That's a good line. That's that's two one 50 is the after shot. That's what that's like. People will need like taglines for like when they like, you know, like this, like the sour Lassina, like game changers of like the first time I played, I played like a cop, but now I'm going to play like a criminal. Like people need to start working on their, their
Two more taglines, go do more taglines. Can I actually, not to step on the bit here? I am a copywriter for work, right? This is what I do. So I'm just, if you think you're going to season 50 and you don't already have your tagline.
Like, just like, let me do it. Do it for free. Oh, for free. Hold on, baby. I mean, okay. All right. A nominal fee or a fee. A commission. Yeah. Yeah. Because I mean, why are you doing stuff for free? We can't think back doesn't have a tagline. Well, I think everybody needs one, really, because it's like, like, if, well, if it, you know, like, maybe you get a good enough tagline, maybe it's like, now we got to use you.
I mean, remember Sandra? Last time I was mean, this time I'm meaner. Like I said, you need to have good branding. You got to have good brand names. Like I'm Sari. I got off the couch, you know, I'm or I'm Oprah in a super woman. So what is it? A super gangster suit. Gangster suit. Yeah, something like that. Yeah. Gangster and Oprah suit. Brandon, can you think of any more off the top of your head?
of people that already, but like random people. The short taglines, yeah, like none of the girls. Oh, I'm Abby Maria. If you F with me, you're dead. You know? You're dead. That's a good one. That's a good one. If we bring back Brad from 41, what's Brad? I'm thinking everybody always wants seconds of broccoli.
That's good. This time I'm cleaning my plate. Last time I only took a bite, but this time I'm cleaning it. I like that a lot. This is fun. Everybody always asks for more broccoli, famously. Give us another, give us another rando.
Oh, yeah. Pick somebody from the new era. Like Hannah Rose, I'm out. Every time I think I'm out, they keep pulling me back in. Bono winning a million hearts. You know, this time I'm going for two million hearts. I'm going a million and a million dollars. You know, I think he's still kind of working towards the million. I think he might, you know, that's how I was for a million hearts. This time I'm here for a million hearts.
I'm still trying to get that million hearts out. I had a rose. I had a rose like the chewing tobacco. She could be like chew on this. She could be something, you know, quick, you know. Yeah. Okay. So look, those taglines, everybody needs to be tweaking those and getting ready to go. I actually think that's a really good idea. You know, because everyone needs a good sound bite.
You know, I think that that's part of being an iconic character is that, like, when you mention the character, we all can point to the thing that they said, you know, or the thing that they did that made them stand out. And a lot of times it's just quick, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, boss and Rob, I'm carrying my family on my back, you know, something like that when he comes back from the 16th time. Yeah, he didn't even get that to the fourth time. You know, yeah. Even if it's not your first time, you know, you got to throw it in there. Malcolm doesn't have one. I'm just thinking that this is my last one, but I don't know if Malcolm has a good one. Looking for my Denny.
Yeah, yeah, golden boy. He was that yeah, there's something there. Yeah listening and I know you are So this season looks like we have some version of the ponderosa video is back here on Instagram that throughout the new era the ponderosa videos have been a little
sparse, and so they've been like dropping things here or there. And so we do have our first video from a jury member, and we have Sierra. Brandon, do you have a chance to watch this today? Congratulations to the newly engaged Sierra.
I'll be honest with you. I liked it. And you can see that I liked it under the likes there. I did not. I didn't watch it, but I was otherwise engaged. So I love to watch it. I love to watch it now. Now, how do you know that she's not saying a bunch of things that you disagree with? You just liked without watching? She I like I'm a big, I'm a big autopilot.
Yeah. Or she could be just talking badly about me. You know, I never know. Nobody would tell me. Okay. I've rented Donald like this. Okay. I'm curious to see what she said. All right. Here we go. Hey, everyone. It's Sierra. It's Sierra. And I was just voted off of survivor 47. Feeling the gratitude, love and support. But I'm also feeling a little betrayed and sad and frustrated and just confused overall. I truthfully think Andy was the main decision maker in sending me home.
I feel like this is the first step of me taking my- That's not good for Andy. Or like, where is it? Or is it? Maybe. Climb your move, Andy. The first person in Ponderosa does set the tone. So if Sierra's setting an anti-Andy precedent, not good. But do we know that?
We don't know that at all. I'm looking into love, Andy. Can we pull the first jurors of Ponderosa and really get down to the nitty gritty and be like, what were you thinking? Were you coming in like with an axe to grind? Cause we know like chaos cast said it, but that's chaos cast. You know what I'm saying? Like we need to, I think we need a bigger sample size for our research. That's right. That's very interesting. That's something I'd like to say. Who is the mayor of Ponderosa in survivor 41?
any ceiling. Yeah. I mean, and that was such a, that was lopsided. I'm trying to think of like, if there was a close vote. I mean, in, in your season in 45, is Kelly the mayor of Padarosa?
Caleb is a member. He voted for D, right? He votes for D. I'm thinking now. Order six is soda, who I believe votes for Charlie, I think could be wrong. So maybe it doesn't matter. 44 is Matt Blankenship, who does vote for Jam Jam.
I think it, but we also have to bear in mind like did soda have like a real like horse in the race, like was soda, like disparity. Like if it's somebody who's like sort of like, I don't say soda, it was like indifferent, but like for soda, like Charlie, Kenzie, Ben, like, you know, it wasn't like soda was like, I hate one of them. Sure, sure, sure.
Yeah, that's interesting data. Shout out to survivor fact checker. Maybe that's something. Okay. Yeah. I like all this stuff here. Okay. All right. So we get to see a little bit of ponderosa here. I think he's a little brat. Oh, Andy is brat. No, no. Hey, brat. It's not the same. This video does predate brat summer in the little to see her. No, she did compliment and brat.
He played it off so well. Survivor was way different than I expected it to be. I thought I was going to come out here, dominate this game, be able to detect when somebody's lying or manipulating me. And I'm like, holy crap, these people really got away with like the emoji are out of control.
Right. So it was everywhere at it. That's a dedicated job. Look at it with murder. And now I'm here at Ponderosa, where I was crowned Queen of Ponderosa, where I'm going to lay down the rules for all the members who come. Is there an upgrade from Mayor of Ponderosa to Queen of Ponderosa? Absolutely.
Yeah, there's a, there's a hierarchical change there that, um, I guess. Was this a coup? Did that, did Sierra just declare herself the queen of Ponderosa? Yeah. Well, yeah, I think so. She, her being first and declaring herself the queen, she established that this is a monarchy. Whereas the mayor in the past, I think you have to retroactively vote somebody to be the mayor, you know, just cause your first doesn't make you the mayor. People have to come in and be like, all right, we can see. All right. When you're fed up with the administration, you just, you just do what you want, you know? Yeah.
I'm enjoying the jury. Of course, the queen of Ponderosa needs her queen drink. Voila! Voila! So my prediction- What? How about this drink? They just have these ready to go at Ponderosa? Like, do you want a coconut? I know what we can find some. I was never given that. You never did that. This is a different property also, which is a funny story. I was never given this. Okay.
They have a heavy bag also.
Are we seeing a decline in survivor applications? Because I've never seen survivor push so hard for people to apply for the show. Every episode, Jeff Bezos is like, see how they gave up their shot in the dark? You too could do something like that if you apply. And now they're playing videos of contestants saying, send in a video, are we hurting for contestants here in a new era, Rob?
I don't think so. I mean, I feel like that we're constantly bombarded with people who are dying to go and play. I think that they just feel like that if they don't keep up a critical mass of getting a certain number of applications, maybe they feel like that something's gone wrong.
Yeah, I think they got the most they had gotten in many years for 45 and 46, I think. But I've always assumed that the push has been because they're getting a lot of similar applicants and they were trying to widen the net to folks who otherwise would not apply. Because I think, you know, when you watch the videos, I don't do this, but I assume that you can tell like a first time applicant, but in the way that the video is not like
You know, like, and I wonder if this pushes for folks who are just following the Instagram or watching passively. I don't, I don't know that, but I want them. I want them to get a lot of applications to where they maybe they can increase the number of contestants we have on the show. I would love to see something like that, especially. How many kids do you want? I don't know that many, but I think you want like a scream.
No, no, maybe, no, no. Survivor 50, I think that, like, we have so many all-star potential people. There's, like, to be like, and we're going to narrow it down to 18. I'm like, I'm new. Mm-hmm. Twenty-four. You know, twenty-four wouldn't be awful. You know, and so I think after that, you said, you said a baseline, and just like, every season could be got 90-minute episodes now. We're not even working with the same... You want to do two tribal councils?
I mean, I'm just saying, sometimes we do it anyway with the 90 minutes we have right now. We could make this happen. If you're gonna be asking for all these applicants, give them a shot. People are like, I apply for nine years straight. Nine, after four, these people should just let you on. All right, whatever. Brandon, I say, let's leave it at 18, but do like two or three episodes, like American Idol style of, let's see, let's see all the worst applications. Let's see like, you know, Jeff's like,
All right, everybody wants to be on Survivor, but here are the people that were the absolute worst. No chance. Roll the clips. William Hung, baby. William Hung in a buff. That'd be awesome. Yeah, I think there's something to that. I don't know why we don't do more of that. Let's follow them through casting. Let's see the top 32 in Hollywood.
And people do go to Hollywood. You do go do a cat round of casting in Hollywood. Yeah, that'd be good. There's I'd be exciting. Yeah, there's TV show endurance that was on for children. It was like a children's survivor early 2000s and discovery kids. Shout out. They had a round. They would bring 24 people, but they would do like a qualifying challenge where they would wipe out six from the jump.
Not good for your boy potentially, but it could be something. You know, we'll fly 24 people out, give them a day to all getting graciated, and then like, he got a hang on something. First six people to drop their not playing, you know? Come on. Here's another season I'm on. Here's another tweet from this week. Here's Tini, who said, my only thought was, why does Sol and Sierra look like they're from the Capitol in the Hunger Games? Like, what?
What? Yeah. They're giving district, I don't know what the rich district is, but there's a district that's super rich. They're giving that one. Trebel, do you know that? I don't do the Hunger Games. Is Cactus evergreen? Cactus. Yeah.
Yeah, and Peter. Yeah, Peter. Yeah. Okay. Let's, speaking of movies, let's, we were talking pre-show about like, hey, what do I talk about on club condo? And Brandon had an idea. I did. You want to talk through this idea? I think the listeners like when we try new things.
Sure. Listeners, we're going to try a new thing. This weekend, this past weekend, a film came out wicked based on the Broadway show Wicked from 2003. Everybody's seen Wicked. I don't know if you've seen Wicked. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I've heard that I wanted to see it. And then I heard it was two hours and 40 minutes and it's to be continued.
It's to be continued. And the second one, act two is going to be the same. It's a five hour movie. You know, yeah, it's over five hours. Like the survival finale is to be continued, but at least they shorten it.
And you're going to show it to you next week. I got to wait a year to know what happened. I do not know the runtime sitting in the theater. And I saw it at 10 30 at night. I got back to my house at 2 a.m. That's crazy. We're not going to talk about me. We're going to talk about we're going to randomize a random survivor cast, a brand steel via brand steel. And we're going to go through each person and we're going to decide whether we think as a collective they've seen or they haven't seen Beckett this week.
We're not gonna do a brand steal, although I guess we could at the end see who won the season. We'll just see who wins, but we're not doing a whole brand steal, but okay. So we're just using like the randomizer elements here. I have not ever done this before, but we're gonna get 16 people.
But can I submit some? I know we're doing random, but Rebecca Borman's name did come up. I just feel like we got to give her something. Mm hmm. Okay. Do you think that as a practice one did Rebecca from Survivor Cook Islands go to see Wicked this weekend and bonus points chat. No spoilers, but if you can find their social media and tell us yes or no, that would help.
I feel like Rebecca did. I feel like she might have stepped out. She liked Rebecca. Via her survivor wiki page that I just looked at, she lives in LA. She's a makeup artist. Like I feel like her's best interest from her. You know, she probably seemed like it. All right. But that's the exercise. Okay, here we go. Submit submitting choices now. Hold on. And I got all like blank images. 911 branded. What do I do? Okay.
Let's see. Change to specific shells. I have to do what Brandon taught me to do before. And then survivor US rights. That's what we want. We're not sequester. Don't do sequester. I'm not a pirate master. We can do that. Kendra Goffey. She's right. You make it. Okay. Here we go. All right. Okay. We got a good list. Okay. Here we go. All right. Let me see it.
All right, let's start with our first group of people. I think I'm going to try to narrow it down to just groups of four so that you're sure. So I don't give away the whole 16. This was a totally randomized list. Let's start off with somebody who got mentioned a little bit last week due to the big Netflix fight. Brett, closer.
Did Brett closer t-shirt designer and I guess we can open up their wiki to see up any clues as to whether or not they could have gone too wicked. Okay. Brett closer. What do you think Brandon?
I am, and I don't wanna, I don't wanna, you know, poison the waters here. I feel like, I don't know Brett, from the time that we spent with Brett in the fall of 2009, I don't know him to be a pop culture guy. I don't know him to be a movie guy. I know his t-shirt company was like, non-profit, which not, that's not a congruent judgment. I just feel like he's not tapped in. You know, I feel like, I feel like Brett, I don't know if Brett knows Wicked came out. That's my final answer.
Yeah. Yeah. It's very, very religious guy that we know of. He's also left-handed. Yeah. So I don't think. And I saw a suppose that people, very religious people were not liking Wicked because it's witches. Yeah. Because it's wicked. It's wicked. People took their kids out. I saw TikTok. Yeah. Yeah. Believe it.
Yeah, Brandon Donlon, you know, there's only like, there's not that many left handed survivor contestants. That's how I remember that Brett closer is one of them. Yeah, you, you, you as well. Yeah. That's also, yeah. According to the survivor wiki, he's currently based in Amsterdam, Netherlands and works as a web designer. So if he's out of the country, probably watch it and probably open one does not go to see what kid. Yeah, I don't think they get wicked. He's not Mike Tyson. He's Brett. He's Brett.
Okay. All right. Second person. All right. Janine from Survivor 43, did Janine go see Wicked?
I feel like we could get the answer to this question. I was like... People are going with it. They're posting about it. They're posting about it. I talked to Janine on Saturday. Yes. I saw Wicked on Friday night. It didn't come up. Oh. You know what? Everybody in New York City is seeing Wicked. Like, I feel like everybody... Is that where she lives? Yeah, yeah, she's here. She's somewhere. Can I tell you that she was, I thought, really great on the live show.
She's fantastic. She came in with takes. She came in with takes. I would have her back on a podcast any time. Yeah. Agreed. Agreed. You could have her on to talk about Wicked. I don't think she's seen it yet. I think that's my final answer. Okay. So you have that seen it yet, but we'll see it. I think she will see it. Okay. All right. Okay. Next one. Jen Brown.
Jim Brown has seen Wicked doesn't remember she saw Wicked.
Oh, she would never. Yeah. She might be like it. He would never tell us. Not recall if she had seen Wicked. Sure. OK. I like that. I like that. Yeah. And there. I don't want to get too far ahead of this, but there is no world with this JP Hilsabek. No world. Did Jay. Yeah. I don't think he's seen the Wizard of Oz.
Yeah, I don't think he's all survivor before he. Yeah, horses. I don't think he's doing a lot of media. He is a famously a firefighter. Scarecrow does not like fire. Scarecrow wanted a brain.
Sure. I think that, yeah, I'm gonna go no on JP. Okay, no. So far, nobody has seen Wicked. All right, next four. Next four coming out. Okay, here we go. First up, John Rocker.
John Rocker. Go to see. I think John Rocker recently active on Twitter. It looks like that as of somebody sent me on X.com. I know Chappelle, you're not there anymore that as of after the first week of November, for some reason, John Rocker activated on back on X.com. He is back. I do not believe he has posted any takes yet about Wicked.
Has he posted things about other stuff that would infer you to believe he hasn't seen wicket? Any reason he would wait until now to come back to ex.com. A lot of people are leaving ex.com around it. Same time, you know, the anything that John Rocker might have said or done that will make that really seem attractive to him. I don't know. He implied that the world was black and white and now suddenly it's back in color.
Is there a chance that he posted about wicked on truth socials? Do we now push that? So yeah, I'm going to say no, John Rocker did not go to wicked. Yeah. Okay, do we have John Rocker's tagline for coming back for summer 50?
Yeah. His pin tweet I believe is, I'm back motherfucker. It's pretty good. It's a spin on what Gabe's saying, you know? Instead of telling Jeff, I'm not coming back or I'll be back. You say, I'm back, Jeff. Back motherfucker. All right. How about Kelly Zarneki? Don't confuse her with Kelly Sharba. Kelly Zarneki, this is Gabon Kelly.
This is Don Kelly. Yeah. I could, for a million dollars, I would have never guessed her name was Zarneki. That's crazy. Yeah. I'm going to say yes. I think she saw it. I would have. Condo P, yes, here. Yes. What? Okay. What do we know about Kelly Zarneki that would lead you to believe that? Um, I remember she lived in Chicago. Yeah. I met her in California. Okay. So, so she lives in cities. Okay. Now what else about Kelly Zarneki says? Like I saw a wicked.
But they do everything every, every March in Chicago. The water's green. Oh, maybe that's wicked. I accidentally took on Jacqueline Berg on the Gabon Wiki. Okay. Sure. Happens to all of us. Yes. Okay. Survivor Wiki does not have a lot of trivia about her. She was the youngest person to compete on Survivor Gabon. Sure. Yeah. Okay. But Jay Carwell says, yeah, Kelly sought and wore green in pink. Is that official?
I didn't know that she had social media. I'm shocked. Okay. I'd be shocked that was right. Let us know if that's good for him. Yeah. Yeah. How did you find that? I dropped my socials. We're not going to put it on the YouTube, but we would like to click the Instagram page. That's crazy. Okay. All right. Rafe Jodkins. Rafe Jodkins, big Hollywood big wig.
You got the green carpet. Jay car while said they made it up. Made it up. Made it up. But good enough. Good enough for us, Jay. Wow. Good enough. All right. All right. Interestingly, Semhar did Semhar go to Wicked. Okay. Now Semhar is a spoken word poet and artist. I think Semhar went to go see Wicked.
It feels like the time to not go to like see stuff when it's packed. Maybe not opening night. It's cool to go see it soon. I was like, I'll get to it when I'm doing my poetry or whatever. I feel like she went or she's going, but maybe not this soon.
Okay. All right. Do not catch it opening weekend for some heart. All right. All right. Next four coming out. Here we go from the opposite tribes. This is a first of all, but let's just talk about this as a tribe. This is a hot mess tribe. It's Kelly's our neck at our first boot here.
That would be very sad. I think Jim Brown might quit. You know, John and John are getting on. Fantastic. Yes. Yeah. The Johns are definitely like making a run at this. Ray for his hating life. He has nothing. He has nothing to work with you. Some are also. Yeah. The Johns and Jen Brown like have a height final three.
Justice for Janine. She is robbed. Yeah. Okay. All right. Let's then check out our next four coming out for the Toggy tribe. Okay. All right. Here we go. First up, Brooke struck. Brooke struck. Go to go see Wicked. Why not, right? Who? Yeah. She's got. She's from Vanuatu.
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Here we go. This is an interesting one. Beast Mode Cowboy. Did Beast Mode Cowboy go see Wicked? He actually might have gone to see it. It's an interesting guy. You know, at first glance, you would think like he wouldn't like that. But at the same time, we've seen layers of Beast Mode Cowboy on Survivor and Big Brother. He could be convinced. I'm going to go and know here, but I could be wrong. Yeah. Brandon is one of his best friends sister is in the movie. Is that right?
Oh, yeah, I feel like he had, you know, you know, he knows the family. He could have asked Frankie for tickets and Frankie's like, just to the AMC. You went tickets to go see him, you know. And then he's like, you want to use my money? He passed. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think I'm voting yes. Rob, you got to break the tie. Did Caleb Reynolds go see Wicked? No, I don't think so.
Boom. I think he went to go support the Friday fan. Maybe he'll watch it eventually. Okay. All right. So from beast mode cowboy to fly for Cook Island's cowboy. Yeah. No, I'm going to go. No, I don't know. I think he's, he's no longer in this country. I don't think that, you know, oh, no, he moved.
Um, I don't, I don't think so. I, we were friends with, on Facebook also. Yeah. Uh, once upon a time. Yeah. Now he too, like Dorothy had like a dream that was very vivid and, uh, explained a lot of things and Yule was there and, and it was definitely a bad way. Yeah. So yeah. And it was a bad way to like the tornado. Yeah. That's, that's pretty good. But I doubt cowboy went to go see Wicked this weekend. Yeah. What do you think the last movie cowboy went to go, went to go see?
Probably Dumb and Dumber. I was thinking of Karate Kid. We're on the same page though. Something a long time ago. Something not super recent. All right. No. Chappelle. Boy, Brandsteal really came up with some good ones. Hot cop Dan. Did hot cop Dan go see Wicked this weekend? Do you have a date to take to see Wicked? That would probably make the decision for him. I think he went if he's in a relationship about the key win.
Sure. Sure, sure. I don't think he liked it. I think he was, I think he was, he was pretty negative on the car ride home, but I think he probably saw it. Yeah. Okay. He's probably seen it. Minus his hot cup Dan is married.
Look at those. Maybe when I say it, he's a hot cop. Damn. He saw gladiator. I think the wife went. Oh, he had to chew. Yeah, he had to choose. Yeah. Okay. And last four. Last four for wicked. Okay. All right. We're going to start off with Jatia. Did Jatia go to go see wicked this weekend?
I think so. I can see a world where that's true. Yes. I think this is the most exciting. Like we could find that out pretty quickly. Where are some of these people? I don't think. Yeah. All right. Next up, Monica Padilla. Did Monica Padilla go see Wicked? Um, I don't know. Rob, Monica, Monica's from your necklace, right? Which neck of the woods? I remember you all talking. She used to live in California when I lived in California. Oh.
Oh, okay. Yeah, you sense moved. But yeah, I don't know. Maybe she's done. I think so. I think I could see her going to see it. For sure. Yeah. All right. Sierra Don Thomas. Okay. Did Sierra Don Thomas get out to go see Wicked this weekend? I'm going to go. That's that's a no in their household. I feel like I feel like I don't know if the witchcraft is landing.
See, I don't want to be a game changer. Game changer. Yeah. I have a watch list that doesn't allow certain couples to go to movies in public. And, you know, you just, you know, I wouldn't. I wouldn't bet on it. All right. So that's a no-go. And then finally, Westnail.
Absolutely. Big week for Westnail. It was 10 years ago that Westnail got voted out of Survivor. Josh Wiggler and I will discuss Westnail's boot episode from Survivor San Juan del Sur. Did he celebrate by taking in, not 58 chicken nuggets in five minutes, but did he celebrate by taking in wicked?
Oh, the fine gravity. I, you know, I believe he's also married. So I can see a world where this was date night. This is a cute date night. I can see a world where it does not go on that date night. I don't, I don't see it, Rob. You have to break the tie again. West did not go to see Wicked. And that he famously loves other forms of entertainment, that he's not a movie guy. He's a TV guy.
What about the episode of two and a half men when you were naked, cooking pancake or cooking bacon? Bacon, bacon. That's fine. That's awesome, dude. I love that shit. TV guy. TV guy. Yeah. Okay, episode. Yeah. What a try also.
get this, this season's crazy. It's pretty crack. I think your winner is on this mat. And I don't know what that says about the, what the, how the game is going to go. Hey, not the first time Sierra Don Thomas has heard that said, Chappelle. And he wasn't talking about her. Both tops. All right. So, all right. So should we just go to the finale part one? Cause it's also part finale. Should we pick a winner? Can we all use your winner?
I mean, it's hard to not pick a Wraith, but like it just, I don't see Wraith surviving that tribe. Oh my God. I'm going to lock in and I'm going to go, you know, I, I'm 11 years old on September, I believe 25th of 2008, and I'm watching Kelly Zarnaki and I'm locking Kelly Zarnaki and it's my winner. And maybe this is what it was all for. I say it, my tribal council, like I didn't need to be on survivor for now. Like it's what, what comes after. Who you got?
I'm going with Give me Brooke struck
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cowboy, Janine, Jen Brown, Kelly's are necky, Monica, be a semi. I'm out. Oh, women's Alliance. Uh, oh, watch out. B smoke cowboy and cowboy. The cowboys versus the cowgirl.
Oh, that's great. Actually, all of the women from that original Pagon tribe stuck together and got rid of John Rocker. No one is shocked. Poor Rafe. He was like, what's happening? He was collateral damage. Rafe might have quit. We don't know that Rafe didn't leave on there. All right, let's go to part one of the finale. OK, the final four ends up being cowboy. Not Jeanine. Kelly's Arnak Lee and Monica Padilla.
Okay. Pretty good. Pretty good picks. Okay. All right. Kelly wins immunity. All right. Let's go finale part two. Final three ends up. Okay. Janine's out cowboy, Kelly and Monica Padilla. And Michael's playing for the third time. This isn't fair. Monica was a final immunity. She votes out. Kelly ends up being.
She's a three-time player. Monica Padilla versus cowboy. This is a coordination season, Brandon. You know, she's like Boston Rob. All right. Is anybody interested in this? Yes. Yeah, I think we got some people. And the winner is cowboy. I won. Wow. Bit of jury. Rob God.
Yeah. That was very of the back door. That's exciting. And then are the back door. Yeah. I don't think he went to the back door. No, I saw online today that actually they were talking about it in a season three. They just never got to pull it off. I mean, season four, they just never got to pull one off, but they already started like the room links.
Yeah, it was Eric and that cop guy, the FBI agent. What's his name? Jack Jack Jack. Yeah, they were talking about it. Yeah, I saw a lot a live clip from the reality kingdom earlier. Well, little brother history for you. Okay, Nicole Miss saw wicked Jack did not find it. Yeah, with a cowboy from that season, her brother.
Oh, yeah, he is not seeing wicked. Yeah, none of the cowboys did. I don't want to know what cowboys watch it. Yeah, we're not Danny McCray. He's watching. No, I'm a crazy guy. Kiki, right? Kiki might want to see it. I don't think he wants to see wicked. I'm just trying to go through all the cowboys that are left. Oh, ha. Jimmy Johnson. Wait, Jimmy Johnson. Yeah. Yes. He might have seen it. What about Jimmy T?
Jimmy T. now. He might say he might use the word wicked. Anybody. Anybody on that season's survivor watch wicked from survivor Nicaragua. Yeah. Any person. Hmm. That's a that's a tough wicked cast. Brenda. Maybe. Brenda. Maybe. Maybe more than that. Marty. Marty. Marty. Maybe. Marty appreciates the arts. He likes chess. They're already.
All right. Brad, did anything else about Survivor 47 that you want to talk about at this hour? Um, I'm so thrilled. I want it. Can I plug something else that's not? Well, what is it? What is it? It's so I got really into John Lovett's podcast. Love it or leave it. Yeah. Is it like a live show every week? Yeah, it's very fun.
And it's really fun. And if you miss, I didn't know, I knew loosely who John Lubbock was. I listened to Potsave America before in passing, but never intense. And John Lubbock is so funny. I think that if you are interested in his, if you miss him from the hour and a half that you saw him, love her to leave it. Yeah. He does a really good job at the fun live show. Very good joke writer. And so it's a very fun live show. So good plug. Anything else?
that you want to talk about. I will be back on like Gabe. Rob is a pie. Yes, tomorrow sooner than when games can return to anything. I will be back tomorrow to talk about the Dancing With Stars finale right after it happened. Oh, where I think we're going to be celebrating Joey in his Dancing With Stars championship.
That's my hope. I'm going for Joey who Joey Grazaday from the bachelor franchise. Yes. And Joey can dance. If you haven't seen a clip of Joey dancing yet, throw on YouTube, Joey dance. Does he say like, Hey, can I do a dance real quick?
He's never dance Never in the weeks that they've danced as he asked the Carrie Annanaba. Are you cool if I do this real quick? He just does it, you know, and that's the that's the initiative. We all need to take yeah, okay Let me talk about a little bit of what I got going on and so in the morning I'll be defying gravity as I head home for Thanksgiving, but then right after that I'll be
heading out to Houston and you can be there too. And about what, 10 days, Chappelle, we'll be back in, back together for RHAP live in Houston. Go to robiswebs.com slash Houston for that. On Tuesday night, we'll be having a special patron meetup as well. And I'm very much looking forward to getting out and saying hi to everybody then on the confessional.
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Then two weeks from tonight, the wand off is coming up. Send those into robswebs.com slash wand off. It'll be myself and Chappelle and Josh Wiggler here two weeks from tonight for the survivor 47 wand off all season long. Anything from this season of survivor will be hearing about it from the very talented artists of Rob has a podcast nation then.
Oh, I had a great conversation with Carolyn the other night. Chappelle, you check that out with Carolyn. Of course I did. It was a great podcast. It was fun listening to Carolyn Weager to give her insight and, you know, catch us up on all the things she'd been working on on her podcast too. Yeah. And so a really fun chat with Carolyn got into some of the conversations that she's been having on her podcast. She recently spoke with Russell, got into a little bit of what
That was like and everything else going on with Carolyn, who is just one of a kind, one of the faces of the new era Mount Rushmore as far as I'm concerned. And so check out what she had to say on the, a great interview on REJP. Then Chappelle tomorrow night, what's going on? The draft is coming up. Draft check in.
I haven't said this aloud to anybody else, but I am not looking forward to this. So in any other situation, I'd be like, okay, yeah, let's talk about the draft. But I have to go talk about the draft tomorrow. It's going to be me, Pooja, Shannon, and Taryn. And Shannon thinks she's going to win. She thinks Rachel is going to win the whole game. And so we're never going to have to come and listen to her explain all the edge and all this other stuff behind us.
And then Taren has all three of the players on his draft board. Oh my God, it's going to be disgusting. I'm going to be fighting for my life. Yeah. So let me just what's the lay of the land here? So I'm out, Taren. Yeah. I wasn't allowed to be on the draft check in. Taren has Andy, Rachel and Kyle. Puyas is sitting pretty with just Sue. Liana has just teeny.
No, you were reading this wrong. Yeah, Tara has Andy Genevieve and Kyle. What did I say? Rachel. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I said Rachel. No, no, no, it's fine. Tara Genevieve and Kyle. Puya has just sued. Leana has just teeny.
Chappelle has, you're not bad. What are you talking about? You got Sam and Caroline? Okay. Okay, Rob, you come talk to Tara and what I'm not allowed. My team is out. I'm not allowed to be on the draft check-in. Those were the rules. I was like, hey, guys, can I be on the draft check-in? No, you have no people left. You can't be on the draft check-in.
going to be. I'm like, I desperately want to do it. Please let me be on the draft check and like, no, you can sub in for me at any point. Listen, it's going to get ugly because Shannon, she thinks she wants. She thinks she's got it. She's ready to. She's already gloating in our DMs. And Taryn, you haven't had three of the last five big brother players this season too. He's out of control. It's I'm going to be in there in over my head. So tune in. It should be fun. You know,
I'm not, you guys won't let me in. And I'm going to have so much FOMO when I see in my podcast feed that I, that was like three or four hours that I could have gotten to be a part of. I'm going to be there for all that. I'm going to be out like Hannah Rose. Peace. Say my piece and get the hell out of there. No, this is going to be wild. That's going to be tomorrow night. Is that live? Yeah. I think so. Tomorrow it's seven. Okay. Yes. Aaron, we have my coffee on. It's going to be a, it should be a long one.
It will not trust me. I will make sure of it. Can I host it? I'm a host it. That's why I'm a moderate. Okay. All right. Chappelle, what's coming up for you? This dang draft you just talked about. Oh, man, it's going to be ugly. Not fair that you that I get not allowed to be on it.
You keep saying that. And then tomorrow when I'm just listening to you a message like Rob, take my spot. I know how bad you want it. You know, but I'll be there, of course. And then you can catch me on R.H.P. in various locations. Our Nothing But Netflix episode dropped this weekend where we talked about sexy Santa Claus again, like first we did at Frosty and then we back to. Do you know about all these thirsty Netflix movies?
I know about Heart Frosty, there's another one. Yeah, another one. Very gentleman. The Merry Gentlemen. Everybody is like, you know, thirsting for Saul, thirsting for like all these Christmas characters. And we talked about Heart Frosty last week, sexy snowman come to life. And this week we talked about the Merry Gentlemen. Chad Michael Murray is part of like a male, what are they called? Male review?
Yeah. A gentleman's club, if you will. Yeah. Ladies come in and watch these guys. They're all dressed like Saul on the jury dancing. Right. So what, what would you recommend I watch tonight? Watch hot, watch hot frosty. Hot frosty is charming. Mary, gentlemen, we didn't like as much.
But great podcast over on Nothing But Netflix. We have both of them that should be out right now. Check it out on Nothing But Netflix and make sure to subscribe to our Nothing But Netflix feed to keep up with that. And then I think I got to do Nothing But Netflix again next week. I'm going to try to do some more Christmas stuff. And so
Yeah, be on the lookout for more of that. And then the recap kickback content as well, recapkickback.com, go to youtube.com slash at recapkickback, hit that like button, hit that subscribe button, show your voice of love so that Rob will keep, you know, having me back here on Club Condo. So make sure y'all handle that so I can come back and do this. Thanks. That's it, Rob. Okay, fun Club Condo tonight.
always. Thank you so much. Yeah. Thanks so much to the chat. It came along for the ride. I'd love to read your comments after the fact. Let us know how we did. And then Wednesday night, I will be live after episode number 11 of Survivor. And we've got, we haven't done this before.
Brandon, you're a big proponent of this, of multiple survivors on the podcast. We're going to talk to two people from Survivor 46 on Wednesday night. We're going to check in with Tiffany and Hunter together after the episode. I love that. I'm such a big fan of like, bring a buddy with you. Bring a buddy in the holidays. It's like our friend's giving.
I'm a very big proponent of it. Hunter's great, Tiffany's great. It'll be a great, a great podcast. Hopefully you get a great episode, you know, nothing like dinner conversation that Thanksgiving, you know, this year it's gonna be tough for some folks. But if we get a good episode, won't be a stuff. Mm-hmm, yeah. Yeah, and then I will have so I wouldn't know it all with Steven coming up on Friday this week after the Thanksgiving holiday and stay tuned for, we figure out when we get, are gonna get the patron Q&A coming up this weekend, okay?
Thank you so much for joining us. Take care everybody. Have a good one. Bye.
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