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    Becoming evidence-guided | Itamar Gilad (Gmail, YouTube, Microsoft)

    enSeptember 21, 2023
    What lessons can be learned from Google+'s failure?
    How does evidence-guided decision-making improve product development?
    What are some tools mentioned for informed decision-making?
    Why is user research important in product development?
    How can AI enhance product development processes?

    Podcast Summary

    • The Dangers of Opinion-Based DevelopmentRelying on opinions and beliefs alone can lead to failure and missed opportunities. It is crucial to implement evidence-guided decision-making to avoid wasting resources on ideas that may not resonate with users or meet their needs.

      Relying on opinions and beliefs alone can lead to wasted resources and missed opportunities. The story of Google+'s failure to compete with Facebook and missing out on social mobile app opportunities like WhatsApp highlights the pitfalls of opinion-based development. Despite initial enthusiasm and investments, Google+ ultimately flopped, with the integration and features rolled back and the platform shut down. This experience prompted a shift towards evidence-guided decision-making, where ideas are tested and validated before full implementation. By implementing tools like the confidence meter, metrics trees, GIST, and the GIST board, product teams can make more informed choices and avoid wasting time, effort, and resources on ideas that may not resonate with users or meet their needs.

    • The Power of Evidence-Guided Decision-Making and Iteration in Project SuccessUnderstanding user needs, conducting thorough testing, and iterating based on data are crucial for creating impactful and widely adopted features, even if they initially seem counterintuitive.

      Google's approach of evidence-guided decision-making and the "fail fast" mentality played a crucial role in the success or failure of their projects. While Google+ followed a different playbook and ultimately proved unnecessary, Gmail's tabbed inbox feature was a result of extensive research, user-centric goals, and rigorous testing. Initially met with skepticism by colleagues, this feature turned out to be highly successful for passive users, with about 85-88% of the population loving it. The lesson here is that taking the time to understand user needs, thoroughly test ideas, and iterate based on data can lead to impactful and widely adopted features, even if they seem counterintuitive to some.

    • Balancing Human Judgment with Evidence in Successful Product CompaniesEvidence-guided thinking is crucial in modern product management. It is important to encourage leaders to provide evidence to support their vision and create an environment where ideas can be critically evaluated.

      Successful product companies like Google, Amazon, Apple, and Airbnb have found a way to balance human judgment with evidence. They don't disregard human opinions but instead use evidence to supercharge them. This principle of evidence-guided thinking is crucial for modern product management. However, it's important to give founders and leaders the space to express their ideas and insights. The role of evidence is to critically evaluate those ideas and ask for proof. It's about creating an environment where leaders are encouraged to provide evidence to support their vision. Steve Jobs' story of the iPhone illustrates this process of discovery, trial and error, and ultimately piecing together a successful product based on evidence. In organizations like Google, where there is an open culture, it's possible to push back and challenge even the founders' ideas by presenting data and evidence.

    • The Importance of Evidence-Guided Decision-MakingBasing decisions on hard data rather than opinions empowers individuals to challenge senior opinions and drive change, leading to better outcomes in product development.

      Being evidence-guided is crucial for effective decision-making in product development. Itamar Gilad, in his discussion, emphasizes the importance of basing discussions and decision-making on hard data rather than opinions. He suggests that presenting evidence can empower mid-level managers and smaller people within an organization to challenge senior opinions and drive change. Gilad highlights signs that indicate a lack of being evidence-guided, such as unclear goals, missing metrics, excessive time spent on planning, lack of experimentation, and a disengaged team. To counter these issues, Gilad introduces the GIST model, which breaks down change into goals, ideas, steps, and tasks, providing a framework for an evidence-guided approach. Ultimately, incorporating evidence-based decision-making can lead to better outcomes and a more successful product development process.

    • The GIST Model: A Comprehensive Framework for Effective Product DevelopmentThe GIST model provides a systematic approach for teams to define goals, explore ideas, and implement them effectively in product development, combining principles from lean startup, design thinking, and product discovery.

      The GIST model is a comprehensive framework that addresses four crucial areas in product development: goals, ideas, steps, and tasks. It helps teams define what they want to achieve, explore different ways to achieve those goals, and implement and validate their ideas effectively. The GIST model combines principles, frameworks, and processes from various existing methodologies such as lean startup, design thinking, and product discovery. However, it is important to note that the GIST model assumes a strategic context and does not directly tackle strategy development or research. It is also important to not confuse goals with planning work, as goals are meant to paint the end state and provide direction for the development process.

    • Using Models and Metrics to Drive Value and SuccessEvidence-guided companies use models and metrics, such as the North Star metric, to measure the value delivered to the market and understand the impact of experiments and variables on success.

      Evidence-guided companies use models and metrics to construct overarching goals for their organization. The value exchange loop is a model that focuses on delivering as much value to the market as possible and capturing value back. To measure the value delivered, companies often use a metric called the North Star metric. This metric represents the amount of value created for the market. Examples like WhatsApp measuring messages sent and Airbnb measuring nights booked demonstrate the importance of these value metrics. Additionally, companies can break down these metrics into metrics trees, which outline the key performance indicators (KPIs) that impact the North Star metric and top business metric. Mapping out these metrics helps understand the impact of experiments and the variables that influence success.

    • Using a metrics tree for alignment and impact assessment in organizations.Implementing a metrics tree helps teams align their projects with top objectives, encourages ownership and mission, determines effective team structure, and informs decision-making and resource allocation.

      Using a metrics tree can greatly help with alignment and impact assessment within an organization. By having a clear understanding of the top objectives and key results, teams can work together to move these metrics and align their projects accordingly. This model also encourages a sense of ownership and mission within teams, allowing them to contribute to the overall goals. Additionally, the metrics tree can help determine the most effective team topology by organizing the organization around goals rather than hierarchical structures. Ultimately, having a clear math formula that represents the North Star metric or revenue can inform decision-making, resource allocation, and investment strategies. Through objective evaluation and transparency, the ideas layer can ensure rational decision-making while minimizing biases and politics.

    • Evaluating Ideas: The ICE ApproachThe ICE (or RICE) approach is a simple but effective method to prioritize and evaluate ideas based on their impact, confidence, and ease, without relying on complex formulas or tools.

      When evaluating ideas, it is important to consider their impact, confidence, and ease. Impact refers to how much the idea will contribute to the goals, and it is crucial to have clear and specific goals. Ease assesses the level of effort required for the idea to be implemented. Both impact and ease are estimations that need to be made. The third element is confidence, which determines how sure we should be about the initial estimations of impact and ease. It is essential to have strong evidence to support our estimations and to be aware of the level of confidence in our assessments. This approach, known as ICE (or RICE), provides a simple and effective way to prioritize and evaluate ideas, without the need for complicated formulas or tools.

    • Evaluating confidence levels in ideas: Moving beyond opinions and themes.Itamar Gilad's tool helps teams assess their confidence in ideas by considering different forms of evidence and testing, ultimately aiding in informed decision-making and resource optimization.

      Confidence in an idea should be based on more than just opinions and themes. Itamar Gilad's tool highlights the different levels of confidence that can be achieved through various forms of evidence and testing. Starting with low confidence indicators like personal conviction or thematic support, the tool encourages moving towards more objective evaluations such as reviewing the idea with colleagues or estimating feasibility. Data, whether anecdotal or market-based, adds further validation, but it is ultimately through building and testing the idea that medium to high confidence can be gained. This tool can help teams gauge where they are on the confidence spectrum and make informed decisions about investments and prioritization. Additionally, it emphasizes the importance of saying no and stopping unnecessary initiatives to prevent wasted resources.

    • Balancing speed of delivery and speed of discovery in product development.The key to successful product development is finding the right balance between building quickly and learning early, using evidence-guided methods and a systematic approach to evaluate ideas.

      There is a trade-off between speed of delivery and speed of discovery in product development. Many mistakenly believe it's either building very fast or learning slowly, but the key is finding the right balance. It's not about just getting the product out quickly, but about getting the right product out. Evidence-guided methods, which prioritize learning early and making informed decisions, are more impactful and resource-efficient than opinion-based approaches. Good teams know how to learn and build simultaneously. This approach is beneficial for companies transitioning into modern product development or those that have regressed from evidence-guided methods. It's important to have a systematic way of evaluating ideas, especially as companies scale up.

    • Adopting evidence-based frameworks for better decision-making and outcomes.Start by addressing the biggest problems and implement frameworks that align with them, such as establishing a North Star metric for clarity or using the confidence meter for evidence-based prioritization. Embracing evidence-based approaches can lead to better outcomes and prevent fatigue from a complete transformation.

      Organizations should strive to become more evidence-guided by adopting various frameworks and models. The key is not to implement all of them at once, but rather to start with the ones that address the biggest problems a company is facing. For example, if there's a lack of clarity and misalignment in goals, focusing on establishing a North Star metric and using metrics trees can be beneficial. If there are constant debates and changing of minds, incorporating evidence-based prioritization models like the confidence meter is recommended. Additionally, companies can learn and build at a lower cost by utilizing the steps layer, which involves conducting assessments, gathering data, and performing tests before actually building a product. Overall, embracing evidence-based approaches in decision-making can lead to better outcomes and prevent fatigue from attempting a complete transformation all at once.

    • Involving users early on and testing ideas before coding leads to informed decisions and a better final product.User research, testing with a rough version, and experimenting with AB tests can lead to faster learning and a ready-to-deliver final product.

      It's crucial to involve users and gather evidence early on in the product development process. This can be achieved through user research, where ideas are tested with users even before writing a single line of code. By faking the product and allowing users to interact with a rough version, valuable insights can be collected and used to make informed decisions. Additionally, the concept of "fish fooding" or testing on your own team can be a valuable practice. Throughout the development stages, experiments such as AB tests and multivariate tests can provide further validation. The key is to start early, quickly iterate on ideas, and invest more effort into the good ones. This approach allows for faster learning and ensures that the final product is ready for delivery.

    • Prioritizing a Dynamic GIST Board for Goal AchievementCreating a GIST board allows teams to actively contribute to the discovery process, gain a deeper understanding of success, and take ownership of their work.

      Teams should prioritize creating a dynamic GIST board that focuses on goals, ideas, and steps to achieve those goals. By involving developers in activities beyond Agile development, such as research and experimentation, they can contribute to the discovery process. The GIST board should include the team's goals, key results, and objectives, with no more than four key results per team. Through regular meetings, the team can discuss progress, validate ideas, and address any obstacles. This middle layer of goal achievement is often lacking in current discussions that focus on roadmaps and tasks. By providing this context, teams gain a deeper understanding of what success looks like, require less guidance, and can take ownership of their work.

    • Building and Learning Simultaneously: A Holistic Approach to Product DevelopmentBy incorporating a continuous learning process, setting specific goals, and focusing on desired outcomes, teams can make informed decisions and confidently build successful products.

      The process of building a product should also involve a continuous learning process. It's not just about achieving engineering or design milestones, but also about growing the scope of what is being built. The team should approach the project with the mindset of building and learning simultaneously. By setting specific goals, such as reducing average onboarding time, and breaking them down into steps like usability tests, the team can gather evidence and make informed decisions. It's important to emphasize upfront planning and investment in building confidence rather than launching a feature and figuring it out later. This approach may require a shift from traditional roadmaps to outcome roadmaps that focus on achieving desired outcomes rather than fixed deadlines. OKRs can be connected to this framework by using metrics trees, team missions, and individual missions to inform the objectives and key results. Ultimately, this approach allows for a more nuanced and evidence-guided decision-making process.

    • Leveraging OKRs, evidence-guided practices, and technology to improve company health and decision-making while promoting collaboration and customer empathy.Implementing OKRs, evidence-guided practices, and technology can enhance company performance, promote collaboration, and improve decision-making, ultimately leading to better outcomes.

      OKRs (Objectives and Key Results) can be a helpful tool for improving the health of a company and its product. It's important to have supplementary OKRs that focus on these aspects. Implementing evidence-guided practices can also lead to better decision-making and outcomes. While the GIST board may not be the best starting point, gradually incorporating evidence-guided tools and ideas can be beneficial for teams. Creating a step backlog, rather than a traditional product backlog, can help break hierarchical dynamics and promote collaboration. Additionally, resources like books from Silicon Valley Product Group and the Lean series can provide valuable insights for product managers. Exploring new channels for information and entertainment, such as YouTube, can also be enlightening. When it comes to interviewing candidates, asking them to design for a niche audience can reveal their customer empathy and critical thinking skills. Lastly, leveraging technology like AI can enhance processes, such as creating voice signatures for narration purposes.

    • Striving for Value: A Path to Fulfillment and EffectivenessSuccess is not the ultimate goal; instead, prioritize creating valuable content and products that genuinely benefit others to foster personal growth and impactful connections.

      Striving to be of value, rather than just seeking success, can guide both individuals and companies towards greater fulfillment and effectiveness. Itamar Gilad emphasizes the importance of creating valuable content and products that genuinely interest and benefit others. This mindset is influenced by Albert Einstein's motto, "Strive not to be a success, but to be of value." Gilad also highlights how his parents' emphasis on delivering the most value in their modest jobs shaped his outlook. Overall, the key lesson is to focus on being the best at what we do and finding ways to provide meaningful value to others. By embracing this mindset, we can foster personal growth, professional success, and impactful connections with those around us.

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    • His experience working as a PM at Facebook

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    Find the transcript and show notes at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-to-consistently-go-viral-nikita-bier

    Where to find Nikita Bier:

    • X: https://x.com/nikitabier 

    • Threads: https://www.threads.net/@nikitabier

    • Website: https://intro.co/NikitaBier

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    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Nikita’s background 

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    (20:00) TBH’s viral success

    (32:18) Leveraging live chat

    (34:08) Lasting lessons from TBH

    (37:00) Selling TBH to Facebook

    (42:19) Big-tech product management

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    (51:49) The Tim Cook painting story

    (53:53) Leaving Facebook and starting a new venture

    (58:02) Rebuilding TBH and overcoming challenges

    (59:46) Addressing criticism

    (01:04:24) The human trafficking hoax

    (01:09:51) Selling to Discord and lessons learned

    (01:11:36) Lasting lessons from Gas

    (01:13:14) Building durable consumer apps

    (01:22:35) The VC route

    (01:23:27) Contact permissions in iOS 18

    (01:26:53) The success of Dupe

    (01:31:53) Advice for startup founders

    (01:34:14) Work with Nikita

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    Succeeding as an introvert, building zero-to-one, and why you should PM your career like you PM your product | Deb Liu (CEO of Ancestry, ex-Facebook, PayPal, eBay)

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    Deb Liu is the CEO of Ancestry and former longtime VP of Product at Facebook. At Facebook, Deb led the creation of Facebook Marketplace, developed the first mobile ad product for apps, built the company’s games business, and launched Facebook Pay. She’s also held leadership roles at PayPal and eBay, serves on the board of Intuit, and is the author of Take Back Your Power. In our conversation, we discuss:

    • Why you should PM your career like you PM your product

    • Strategies for incubating new products within large companies

    • Creating a successful 30-60-90-day plan when starting a new job

    • The pitfalls of perfectionism

    • The challenges introverts face in the workplace and how to overcome them

    • The value of resilience and turning failures into stepping stones

    • How to leverage coaching in your career development

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    Find the transcript and show notes at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/succeeding-as-an-introvert-deb-liu

    Where to find Deb Liu:

    • Threads: https://www.threads.net/@debliu

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborahliu

    • Substack: https://debliu.substack.com/

    Where to find Lenny:

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    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Introduction to Deb Liu

    (02:18) Deb’s career journey and key advice

    (09:45) Navigating new roles and challenges

    (11:27) Overcoming adversity and failure

    (15:07) Building billion-dollar businesses at Facebook

    (19:33) Strategies for zero-to-one innovation

    (23:40) PM your career like a product

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    (42:25) The power of accountability

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    (56:52) Contrarian corner: career and marriage

    (58:57) Final nuggets of wisdom

    (01:03:09) How to find a coach

    (01:04:47) Lightning round

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    • The importance of writing skills, and how to become a better writer

    • How to automate user research

    • Kevin’s “unsell email” technique for hiring

    • The value of keeping a decision log

    • Insights on AI and its impact on future generations

    • Lessons from failure

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    Find the transcript and show notes at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/unorthodox-pm-wisdom-kevin-yien

    Where to find Kevin Yien:

    • X: https://x.com/kevinyien

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinyien/

    • Website: https://kevinyien.com/

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    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Kevin’s background 

    (02:00) The story behind Kevin’s profile picture

    (08:41) The role of a product manager

    (10:48) Getting started in product management

    (12:47) The importance of writing skills

    (15:06) Becoming a better writer

    (19:10) The PM’s role with engineering and design

    (28:41) Drawing the perimeter for your team

    (31:37) Feedback tips

    (35:13) Decision logs and product sense

    (45:36) Unorthodox hiring strategies

    (47:01) The unsell email strategy

    (54:01) Automating user research

    (01:02:27) AI in everyday life

    (01:06:05) Lessons from failure

    (01:14:34) Lightning round

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    Improve strategy, influence, and decision-making by understanding your brain | Evan LaPointe (founder of CORE Sciences)

    Improve strategy, influence, and decision-making by understanding your brain | Evan LaPointe (founder of CORE Sciences)

    Evan LaPointe is the founder of CORE Sciences, which teaches companies and individuals how our brains work and how that translates to improved collaboration, better products, faster decision-making, and more growth. Previously, Evan was the co-founder of Satellite, the fourth-largest analytics company on the internet today (it mostly runs behind the scenes, and pretty much everyone listening will have used it today without knowing it), which was acquired by Adobe, where he later ran product strategy, innovation, and long-range thinking for Adobe’s digital experiences business. In our conversation, we discuss:

    • The three different systems of the brain

    • How knowing this can help you become more influential

    • How understanding different brain states will help you increase productivity and creativity

    • How to improve your vision and strategy skills

    • How to design a work environment that fosters innovation

    • How to build better relationships at work

    • Much more

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    Find the transcript and references at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/understanding-your-brain-evan-lapointe

    Where to find Evan LaPointe:

    • X: https://x.com/evanlapointe

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanlapointe/

    • Website: https://www.core-sciences.com/

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    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Evan’s background

    (02:37) Understanding the brain’s complex systems

    (07:17) The three core brain systems: safety, reward, and purpose

    (11:03) Applying brain science to team dynamics

    (14:27) The role of personality in team performance

    (17:27) Creating effective work environments

    (23:16) The science of meetings and decision-making

    (29:35) Enhancing strategy and vision

    (54:46) Understanding personality traits in strategy and vision

    (58:58) Tactical tips for increasing openness

    (01:05:46) Building influence and effective relationships

    (01:21:17) The importance of trust and appeal in relationships

    (01:36:47) Creating a positive organizational habitat

    (01:50:35) Enhancing focus and productivity

    (02:00:58) Practical tips for deep work and gamma time

    (02:07:11) Lightning round

    Referenced:

    • The Most Complicated Object in the Universe: https://today.uconn.edu/2018/03/complicated-object-universe/#

    • The Myers-Briggs personality test: https://www.themyersbriggs.com/en-US/Products-and-Services/Myers-Briggs

    • The Big Five personality test: https://www.thepersonalitylab.org/

    • The Enneagram personality test: https://enneagramtest.com/

    • An inside look at how Figma builds product | Yuhki Yamashita (CPO of Figma): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/an-inside-look-at-how-figma-builds

    • Vision, conviction, and hype: How to build 0 to 1 inside a company | Mihika Kapoor (Product at Figma): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/vision-conviction-hype-mihika-kapoor

    • Dylan Field live at Config: Intuition, simplicity, and the future of design: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/dylan-field-live-at-config

    • An inside look at Figma’s unique GTM motion | Claire Butler (first GTM hire): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/an-inside-look-at-figmas-unique-bottom

    • Inside Canva: Coaches not managers, giving away your Legos, and running profitably | Cameron Adams (co-founder and CPO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/inside-canva-with-cameron-adams

    • The Science-Business Mismatch That Puts Your Change at Risk: https://changemanagementreview.com/the-science-business-mismatch-that-puts-your-change-at-risk/

    • Daniel Pink on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielpink/

    • Trello: https://trello.com/

    • Cron: https://cronhq.notion.site/

    • The Double Diamond framework for design thinking: https://www.fluxspace.io/resources/the-4-ds-double-diamond-design-thinking-model

    • CORE Sciences - Tips on Priming Great Meetings PDF: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/gm21cj0vi0bjosyu8kd69/CORE-Sciences-Tips-on-Priming-Great-Meetings.pdf?rlkey=6fznhv7bbsxm8nj8m4luej17t&st=2eduirad&dl=0

    • How to grow a subscription business | Yuriy Timen (Grammarly, Canva, Airtable): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/transform-your-subscription-growth

    • Brené Brown’s website: https://brenebrown.com/

    • The CORE personality test: https://www.core-sciences.com/new-core-identity

    • Burning Man: https://burningman.org/

    • Stripe: https://stripe.com/

    • Jony Ive: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jony_Ive

    • Albert Einstein quote: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7133605-make-things-as-simple-as-possible-but-no-simpler

    • Elden Ring: https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/elden-ring

    • Abilene paradox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abilene_paradox

    The Challenger Sale: Taking Control of the Customer Conversation: https://www.amazon.com/Challenger-Sale-Control-Customer-Conversation/dp/1591844355

    • The surprising truth about what closes deals: Insights from 2.5m sales conversations | Matt Dixon (author of The Challenger Sale and The JOLT Effect): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/close-more-deals-matt-dixon

    • Siqi Chan on X: https://x.com/blader

    • Runway: https://runway.com/

    • Shreyas Doshi on pre-mortems, the LNO framework, the three levels of product work, why most execution problems are strategy problems, and ROI vs. opportunity cost thinking: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/episode-3-shreyas-doshi

    • Wolfgang Puck’s website: https://wolfgangpuck.com/

    • Steven Spielberg on X: https://x.com/sspielberg93

    • John Williams’s website: https://www.johnwilliams.org/

    • The paths to power: How to grow your influence and advance your career | Jeffrey Pfeffer (author of 7 Rules of Power, professor at Stanford GSB): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-paths-to-power-jeffrey-pfeffer

    • Warby Parker: https://www.warbyparker.com/

    • Simon Sinek’s website: https://simonsinek.com/

    • What is the function of the various brainwaves?: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-is-the-function-of-t-1997-12-22/

    • CORE Sciences - Your Brain's 9 Modes PDF: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/figg8upeaawir1hnxv0ew/CORE-Sciences-Your-Brain-s-9-Modes.pdf?rlkey=u3zaonxvycvupurq6pwysckfq&st=os06xjnr&dl=0

    Never Split the Difference: Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It: Unlock Your Persuasion Potential in Professional and Personal Life: https://www.amazon.com/Never-Split-Difference-Negotiating-Depended/dp/0062407805

    The Person and the Situation: Perspectives of Social Psychology: https://www.amazon.com/Person-Situation-Perspectives-Social-Psychology/dp/1905177445

    Cambridge Fundamentals of Neuroscience in Psychology: https://www.amazon.com/Cambridge-Fundamentals-Neuroscience-Psychology/dp/B08QYNDNYX

    • Robert Greene’s books on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Robert-Greene/author/B001IGV3IS

    Misbehaving: The Making of Behavioral Economics: https://www.amazon.com/Misbehaving-Behavioral-Economics-Richard-Thaler/dp/039335279X

    • Beehiiv: https://www.beehiiv.com/

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    How embracing your emotions will accelerate your career | Joe Hudson (executive coach, Art of Accomplishment)

    How embracing your emotions will accelerate your career | Joe Hudson (executive coach, Art of Accomplishment)

    Joe Hudson is one of the most sought-after executive coaches in Silicon Valley. He is the founder of Art of Accomplishment, a transformational coaching program that has helped tens of thousands of people, including many tech executives and founders from companies like Apple, OpenAI, and Google. His unique method of transformation comes from over 25 years of exploring neurological, psychological, and spiritual traditions, tested against real-world challenges. In our conversation, Joe shares:

    • Why the critical voice in your head is always wrong, and how to change your relationship with that voice

    • Why authenticity trumps self-improvement

    • The importance of embracing all of your emotions

    • How to create more enjoyable and effective meetings

    • The power of gratitude in transforming your life

    • Practical experiments for personal growth

    • Much more

    Apply for Joe’s Connection Course:

    Thousands of students have taken Joe’s most popular experience, the Connection Course. Unlike most online courses, there is no reading, lectures, or written homework. It is a three-week experiential deep dive where you will apply your learnings to real-life problems—how to make your team more productive, communicate more effectively, and resolve conflicts with ease. Apply here and use the code LENNY for $300 off your enrollment: view.life/lenny.

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    Find the transcript and references at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/embracing-your-emotions-joe-hudson

    Where to find Joe Hudson:

    • X: https://x.com/FU_joehudson

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-hudson/

    • Website: https://www.artofaccomplishment.com/

    • Podcast: https://www.artofaccomplishment.com/podcast

    • Linktree: https://linktr.ee/theartofaccomplishment

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    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Joe’s background

    (02:31) The critical voice in your head

    (06:39) Changing your relationship with the critical voice

    (13:19) Understanding and embracing emotions

    (19:52) The importance of emotional fluidity

    (24:40) Questioning assumptions and self-perception

    (30:25) The consequences of avoiding emotions

    (36:57) Experimenting with self-improvement

    (39:42) Understanding efficiency and enjoyment

    (43:17) The power of enjoyment in daily tasks

    (45:03) Innate enjoyment vs. learned enjoyment

    (46:31) Authenticity vs. self-improvement

    (50:01) Embracing emotional experiences

    (55:49) How understanding your emotions helps you make better decisions

    (01:02:53) Creating effective teams and meetings

    (01:10:40) Gratitude practice for personal growth

    (01:15:36) Conclusion and final thoughts

    Referenced:

    Descartes’ Error: Emotion, Reason, and the Human Brain: https://www.amazon.com/Descartes-Error-Emotion-Reason-Human/dp/014303622X/

    • Joe’s quote about joy: https://x.com/FU_joehudson/status/1756837774743790030

    • “Emotional Inquiry”: https://www.artofaccomplishment.com/podcast/emotional-inquiry

    Inside Out 2: https://movies.disney.com/inside-out-2

    • “Question the Assumption”: https://www.artofaccomplishment.com/podcast/question-the-assumption

    • Bodega Bay: https://www.bodegabay.com/

    • Elon Musk reveals the interview question he asks every candidate to instantly spot a liar: https://www.good.is/elon-musk-reveals-the-one-job-interview-question-he-asks-every-candidate-to-instantly-spot-a-liar

    • Great Decisions course: https://www.artofaccomplishment.com/course/great-decisions-course

    • HBR Analytic Services: https://hbr.org/hbr-analytic-services

    • Connection Course: https://www.artofaccomplishment.com/course/the-connection-course

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    On the debut of EdTech Stories, we profile the company Wakelet in this episode called “Inside The Wake.”  Wakelet is a company and platform created by Jamil Khalil, a former Airbus employee, who sought an easier way to organize the abundance of information available on the internet.  He overcame several obstacles in his path to develop a platform which makes it easier to organize the web. Through some hard work, perseverance, and of course a little luck, Jamil and his team at Wakelet have designed Wakelet - a platform used by millions of educators each year.  

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    • “Le Freak” by RAGE (YouTube Audio Library)
    • “Chef Brian” by Latasha (YouTube Audio Library)
    • “Space Navigator” by Sarah The Illusionist (YouTube Audio Library)
    • “We March Together” Patrick Patrikios (YouTube Audio Library)
    • “Good Times” Patrick Patrikios (YouTube Audio Library)

     

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    Getting it back on!

    Getting it back on!
    Back from the dead, the guys are Getting it back on! They catch up and talk about trying to join a band, youtube musicians, tech talk, raising kids as automation grows, and what's in store for the technological future!
     
    Recording Date: 10/2/2019 - 12:30PM EST
    Airing: 10/7/2019
    Host: Joey Gabra
    Co-Host: Kelly Kusumoto
    Runtime: ~129 min
    Music: "Get it On" by Beggar's Ride ©️©2004
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