A Dogman and Two Other Creatures - Dogman Encounters Episode 558

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Hey everyone, thanks again so much for joining us for another livestream episode of the show. I really appreciate it. Hopefully everyone's new years off to a great start as well. I hope this year, like I said in the last show, was much better than last year was, which that wouldn't take too much to do.

I mean, because last year wasn't all that great for a lot of us. But anyway, moving forward, before I bring on tonight's guest, I just wanted to let you know that I'm gonna hear a special Saturday night livestream episode of the show tomorrow night. Gonna bring Cam back on. Cam reached out to me, I guess what, two weeks ago or so? Maybe three, to let me know about all the updates he had for me a lot has happened since we spoke last.

And yeah, he's going to come on tomorrow night to bring you all up to speed on everything that he's been through. And yeah, he's been through a lot to say the least. So yeah, market calendars. Don't forget tomorrow night, 9 p.m. Eastern time, he'll be back to do that. So like I said, thanks as always for listening. But for tonight's show tonight's guest Todd Tidwell, he's going to talk about some experiences he had as a kid.

Most of his experiences weren't with Dogman, worth a Dogman, I should say. Most of them were with a Sasquatch, or with Sasquatch Plural, I should say. Maybe it was a good thing that he had those Sasquatch encounters before he had his Dogman encounter, but instead of putting words into his mouth, let's bring him in here and find out. Todd, thanks so much for joining us.

Well, we really appreciate you coming on and spending the night with us. We really do. Todd, please give us a brief bio on yourself. Well, I grew up in East Sacramento County, California, about 45 minutes from the gold country. That's the foothills. I was in the lower basin growing up in the San Joaquin Valley. I have a twin brother and two older sisters.

and a mom and dad, and we grew up on about 13 acres. The properties adjacent to us were larger, 55 acres or more, and it was a good life. It sounds to me like it was a good life. Would you say that your cryptid encounter is tainted, your childhood, at least to a certain degree, or would you say that's not the case? Well, you know, I had pretty much repressed

the events that had happened until I was in my late 20s. And then once in a while, I'd remember some of the instances that happened and then they would get stored away back in the back of my brain somewhere. And it's only now that I'm older, I'm much older, that they're all my mind always.

Oh, I can understand why they would be. The reason why I asked you that is for most people when they're asked what the worst thing they had to go through and deal with as a kid was, most of them will tell you losing a parent or for some, it was having a bike stolen or something simple like that. Of course, losing a parent's not in that category, but having a bike stolen, that's pretty lightweight compared to other things that could happen when you're a kid. But for you,

If someone asked you that question, you could tell them that you're a chased home in the middle of the night by a dog man in the wee hours on a lonely road. I mean, that is just something that no kid should ever have to deal with. That's horrible. It really is. So that's why I was asking if you think your encounters tainted your childhood, at least to a certain degree. Yeah, to a certain degree, I didn't admit that. But, you know, I got through it.

and pretty much unscathed except for the terror that I experienced. Oh, I can only imagine the tear you experienced. I mean, that is rough, especially at that age. Well, talking about your childhood in 79, yet your first cryptid sighting, but it wasn't a dog man. It was a Sasquatch. Please tell us what happened that day. It was the late spring of 79 and I was around 10 years old.

best I can remember. And my brother and I were playing ball with just a ball and bat out in the back pasture. And we had one of our friends with us. It was a couple years older. And while we're practicing baseball,

We stirred up a pheasant and my older friend was the one at bat and he actually threw the baseball bat in the direction of the pheasant and downed it. And we were quite excited and we were cheering and cheering pretty loudly. And all of a sudden on our back 10 acres, something jumped up to its feet and started running down the fence line.

And my brother and I were like, what is that? Well, at first we thought, I don't know what we thought, but we just knew we thought it was human. When we asked our older friend, what is that? And he replied casually, oh, that's a wild man. And my brother and I were like, wild man, what the heck's a wild man? And I watched this thing.

running down the fence line, and it wasn't moving up and down like you would think a person would run. It kind of seemed like it was riding a bicycle, the fluid motion it was having, you know? And my dad showed up from work shortly after, and you could still see this wild man in the distance about 50 acres away.

And we motioned to our dad, dad, come here, come here, look, it's a wild man. And my dad was trying to look off into the distance. He didn't see much. And then he motioned for our older friend. And they were like, we're talking to each other. And my dad didn't say anything else about it. And then our attention got back to the downfessent that happened about five, 10 minutes before that.

Wow, Todd, that's some pretty lethal aim. If he was able to throw that bat and hit that pheasant, how close was he to it? Oh, well, you know, pheasant, you can get right up on them before they, they'll, before they'll scare, you know, and make a run for it. He probably, we'd probably been on top of it during the whole duration of our baseball game before it came to a really strange conclude ending.

I see. Okay. Yeah. Feels that close then. That would definitely explain a lot. Did your dad put into effect certain rules after that experience after he saw that wild man off in the distance? Well, I don't know if he knew definitely what exactly it was, but I know that he was concerned when he heard the word man.

You know, he thought somebody might have been on our property that shouldn't have been there. There were a whole lot of no trespassing signs in the area where I grew up. As far as curfews, we had to be home at dinner time. Well, I'm glad you're still able to go out and do all the things you normally did then. And it sounds like it didn't traumatize you. It sounds like you're still interested in going out and enjoying yourself.

Oh, yeah, and it's hard to keep kids down, especially when you have all that acreage to play on. Well, normally that's the case, but when most kids see a Sasquatch, then, yeah, that tends to change things. I'm just glad that it didn't affect you that way. Thank goodness for that. Well, we were so busy doing other things, you know, I'm sure we finally soon forgot about the whole incident, whether we were playing soccer or baseball,

or fishing, we had all kinds of things to do. So I'm sure the memory of that soon faded as we got active doing other things. Well, that's one of the great things about growing up in an environment like that. You can go out and fish and do things out in the outdoors. So yeah, that's one of the reasons why I think that's about the best way to grow up. All right, Todd, please tell us about your dog meaning counter now. Give us every last detail that comes to mind.

Okay, my dog that experience was in spring of 1982 and I was 13 years old and some of the kids in school that day were talking about one of their parents was going to be out of town or both of their parents were going to be out of town on a I guess a vacation and so it gave us some of us an opportunity to go to

the friend's house where there was going to be no adult supervision and you know I always didn't make the best decisions when I was young growing up. So I told him I'd be there and so early that evening I pulled my bike out of the barn and

aired up the tires and staged it by my window where I was going to crawl out of that night. And when my parents and everybody was asleep in my house, I was going to sneak out and go to my friends whose parents were out of town. And I did just that. Around midnight, I crawled out my window, rather, and headed in the direction where my friend lived. And there was about four miles up the road.

And about halfway on the way there, I was hearing some real, real peculiar sounds like like some screams and some, some, just noises that I, that I didn't normally hear because it was in the middle of the night. And in the middle of night, I'm, you know, in bed usually, except for this one night.

But I didn't let that deter me. So I'm riding to my friend's house and about halfway there, my bicycle tires went flat. The air had come out of them. And again, that didn't deter me. And so I'm riding with flat tires the rest of the way to my friend's house. And when I finally got there, we just, we're just,

We're having fun without any adult supervision. And that was kind of a kick for me, you know, because it was the first time that I've ever done anything like that. So as things started to wind down, it was about maybe 3 a.m. I needed to start heading home. With my bicycle tires being flat, I was going to be riding what one of the terms is called as rim riding.

And that's where you're riding with no air in your tires. And then you're just pretty much basically on your ribs of your bicycle. So I started heading back to my house around 3 a.m. and about three quarters of the way there. I had to go up this incline and then down this hill, this pretty steep hill. And as I was starting to

descend down this hill. I noticed in the property to the left of me, there's a creek and a small bridge as part of the driveway of this estate. And I saw three objects standing

like in a little huddle, see Mike. And I was making a racket too on these rims on that asphalt road. And I'm sure the noise got their attention and they weren't at the same time, all three of these objects that were standing up looked over in my direction. And I thought, okay, I wasn't that concerned at first because I wasn't sure exactly what it was. I thought maybe it could have been maybe some farmers

Because the farmers in our area wake up pretty early, especially in dairy farmers. And then as I started to send down the hill even more, two of the objects ran in the direction I was riding my bike and then once stayed there stationary, but focus at me, you know, intensively.

When the two objects ran in my direction and the direction I was heading, they, what I thought was changes, they cast out a two long shadows that were ahead of them. You know, there was a partial moon that night. And, but I wasn't too, after that, I wasn't too concerned about those two objects. I was mostly concerned about the one that stayed that was intensively looking in my direction.

And they started to proceed in my direction. And I was pedaling and pedaling as fast as I could, but I knew that this thing was gonna head me off so-called at the past. So all I could say to do was stop my bicycle and wait for this collision almost, you know, almost is what I was thinking. We're gonna come to hands, you know,

And you got to think about this. OK, I'm on the shoulder of the road. And on the other side of the road, there was a ditch and then a fence. This creature, now that I'm thinking this is some kind of creature, came right up to approach that fence line. And all I could think of to do

was take my two index fingers and make a cross out of them, okay? And start responding to Lord's Prayer because I thought I was a goner. And as soon as I did that, this creature, which now was close enough for me to see what it actually was, it looked like a huge werewolf, okay? It's headwood was like three feet wide. I had a snout.

It had a hairy chest, you know, like a dog would have. And it had these arms that weren't that big, but they were arms, okay? And teeth. Oh my gosh. The muzzle was just full of teeth and a few of them were really sharp. A9 looking, okay, from the top and bottom bridge. And so I'm standing there, making a cross out of my two index fingers.

saying the Lord's Prayer, and it stopped in its tracks. It's, and it was so upset with me. When it was screaming at me, I was so close that I was getting spit on my face from this creature's mouth. And not worrying about where it was, I just started pedaling again in the direction of my house. And you know,

You would think that I would be totally terrified. I was totally terrified, but when I got home and thought about what had just happened, I felt like I defeated something that was surely going to kill me.

So I waited so long before I went on to my property because of these two shadow figures that were going in the direction that I was. And I saw these two shadow figures go into my backyard. That's why I waited so long before I proceeded onto my property. And once the queue started getting bright enough, I went down my driveway, parked my bike into the bushes.

along near our garage, and I crawled back to my window, and at about 6.30, maybe 7 a.m., my brother came into my room, and he has to be. Where have you been? And I told him exactly what had happened the night before, and I told him about the werewolf. And he kind of rolled his eyes, and then he told me, you better be going to school today.

And I told him, look, after what had happened to me last night and me being up all night, there's no way I'm going to school today. And I wouldn't call it a luxury, but my parents would leave for work before I would go and catch the bus. So I knew that. And that's how I decided how I wasn't going to go to school that day.

And that was my dog's experience. But, you know, I did feel like I had somehow defeated this thing, you know, with my religious beliefs at the time. And that's my dog man experience. Considering how it responded when you revoked it, rebuked it, I should say, do you think that means that it was definitely a demonic entity or something else?

It had to have been, it had to have been because it's, when I did that, it stopped it in its tracks and the anger and fury that it had that it seemed like it couldn't approach any closer, you know? And I chalked it up to doing, you know, believing in my beliefs and religion that got me through it.

Were there any other points in that experience where it was close enough to grab you, but didn't before you? No, because I was about maybe 15 feet from where it was. It couldn't, it wasn't, the arms weren't long enough to reach out and grab me. And you know, I, I, I guess the term rebuked it, you know, and, and I just knew at that time that I had stopped it in its tracks and it wasn't going to proceed any further.

Well, thank goodness you did that. I'm wondering though, most kids after having an experience like that that was so traumatic, they wouldn't even give a second thought ever going outside again to play. But you did. You were still able to go out and play and do normal things that kids would do. What do you think it is about your makeup that enabled you to do that to handle that experience so well?

I think that I had repressed the memory. When you go through any kind of trauma like that, a lot of times, even in my case, that you just repressed the memory. And also, too, I had a lot of things going on even at that early age. Baseball practice, school exams.

a girlfriend or two, you know, there was other things on my mind after that, you know, encounter that I thought probably at the time were more important than recalling that experience.

Well, I can appreciate the fact you had all that going on, but even though you did have all those things going on, the fact that you're still able to go out and be business as usual as a kid, I mean, that shows you have a lot of sand. Most kids, even if they had all those things going on would just be mortified. They just wouldn't even give a second thought ever going back outside to play, but you did. And thank goodness you dealt with it so well. You deserve a lot of credit for that. You really do.

Well, I don't know if I dealt with it that well or, you know, because if, in fact, I had repressed the experience, then I wouldn't have even thought about it at all.

Well, yeah, I can appreciate that, but I mean, most people wouldn't have been able to repress it and still be able to live their lives the way they wanted to. But whatever you needed to do to be able to move forward, you did. So yeah, thank goodness for that. Now, when you said it was about 15 feet from you when you rebuked it, it was so close that you said it blew spit on you. What was it doing with its arms?

They were just docile. There wasn't much of any movement at all. I was more concerned about its mouth. Yeah, I can understand why you were more concerned about its mouth. How good of a look did you get at its teeth? I got a real good look at its teeth. They were almost like it was in 3D. The big snout, the big nose, and then the huge canine

and the back teeth, you know, they were all there. Well, I'm sure they were. Were you able to see if it had one row of teeth or two? It definitely had two rows of teeth and a big tongue. Wow, that must have really freaked you out and understandably so. Was there anything unusual about the spacing of its teeth?

No, I mean, all I can remember was that they were large, really large. The top row, you could see like the insizers and then these huge like K19.

I see. The reason why I asked that is some eyewitnesses report seeing teeth that look fairly similar to just normal canine teeth while others say that the teeth look like what you'd see in a shark's mouth. So yeah, or an alligator. Yeah, or an alligator. Yeah, so that's why I asked that. I was just wondering about that. Before we move on, I just want to thank Gabriel Hawkins for your donation. I really appreciate it, Gabriel. Thank you so much.

Moving forward there Todd Can you think of anything that you might have done that night on that ride home that might have triggered the dog me and to come after you? Just that I I might have interrupted what was going on Along that Creek was a small bridge that went across it that I had interrupted them All right the dog man, which I was referring it to a werewolf and the two other off the two other

I don't know what they were today. I just know that they were casting really long shadows. But I definitely interrupted them with the sounds of my bike riding on the flat tires. I was making a racket.

I wonder what they were doing in the woods there when you came by. I don't think they did anything you did trick or them, but then again I wasn't there to know, so. Yeah, maybe there was something that you did to set them off, but thank goodness you rebuked that dog man and the experience ended the way it did. I just hate the fact, like I said, you had to go through all this. I mean, no kids should have to deal with that. No adults should, so that's horrible.

It really is. You said your friend lived about four miles from you. Was it remote the whole way there or did you have to go through developed areas? No, it was pretty rural and there was a property like every 10, sometimes 20 acres. So that's roughly an eighth of a mile to a quarter mile in between.

Yeah, sounds like it was pretty remote then. When all this was going on, I know you had a lot on your mind, but can you remember by chance if all the ambient noises stopped or not? Oh, when this, when this, where will screen that me, I had lost my hearing it was so loud. So after it hit screen that me,

All I could hear was a ringing in my ear. And you know, I was all I could think of was great. Now I'm going to have to tell my dad where I was last night and why my hearing is gone. Did it take long for that hearing to come back? No, it came back as soon as I got to my property and was waiting for the dawn. I slowly started to get my hearing back. Oh, thank goodness. It was a relief for me.

No harm, no foul, I guess. Yeah, thank goodness. That would have caused problems if it didn't. Did you ever get a good enough look at its back to see if it had a tail or not? Yeah, I could see a tail. I could see a tail. Even though I had a frontal view, I could see its tail. It would have been on my right. And it was a really big tail, really big, like a husky would have a husky dog, but way bigger.

But it's fluffy like that. I see. Well, it sounds like you did a really good job noticing details on this dog, man. Most people would have shut down and they would have been doing good to know their own name. But you took in a lot, which is admirable. That's impressive. How about its claws? What kind of claws did it have? It had huge dog hair like dog hands with big nails.

Um, by clog. But the arms weren't very long at all. From the way you described it. Oh, I'm sorry. Please continue. I've been extended forward much. From the way you describe the claws. Do they have any hooks to them? Kind of like a black bears claws where it looked like they were made for climbing trees or were they straighter?

They were curved, they had some curve to them. And it even had like the dew claw, which would be like, if I were to take my hands and put them out, they would be my, the claws would be like where my thumbs are. So not only on the back legs, but on its arms as well, on its hands, it had dew claws. Yes.

I see. Okay, that makes sense. For everyone listening in the live chat, if you'd like to start typing out your questions for Todd, please be sure to type them in all caps so I don't miss them. Before I get to those though, we've got a little bit further to go with the questions. Moving on Todd, in our conversations behind the scenes, basically the first time we spoke,

You gave me the impression that the Sasquatch experience, I'm going to ask you to tell us about next, just might have been more traumatizing to you than what the Dogman encounter was. Is that accurate? Which one was more frightening for you? The Sasquatch sighting, the Bigfoot.

Wow, you know, I can understand why when you talked about how it actually affected you and what you did right after you had it. Well, let's get to that one now. Please tell us all the details about it. Okay, this would be in the summer of 1983 and I was 14 years old.

And I had gone to the river that day. Actually, I had gone to the river, which is a mile from my house the day before that. But when I got to the river, there was my older, my neighbor, who was like four years, five years older than I was at the time. And he had his girlfriend with him.

Once I recognized that, I elected to go back home. So it was the very next day I went back to the river and it was just me, I thought, you know, I was hoping that there wasn't going to be anybody else there. As I approached the river, there was this mobile home about 50 yards from where I entered the river.

And it was used as like the caretaker of the property was living there. And they were an older couple. But this time I was down there, it was a newer trailer. And the old couple that lived in the trailer before that were gone. And there was

a little kid playing with like his little Tonka trucks out in front and he saw that I had my towel and I was in my swim truck and he said to me, you can't go down there. There's monsters down there. And I kind of chuckled. I know I did chuckle. I went

Monsters huh, and then that's when his mother opened the door to the trailer and motioned him inside And I looked over at his mom. I said monsters, huh? And I was just being jokingly about it So I proceeded down the 50 yards down to the entrance where I get into the river and I started walking upstream well, I got about Maybe 20 yards upstream and on the opposite side

The river with the levee is some rocks started getting thrown at me. And they were being arked over the levee in my direction. And I actually got hit by one of them. One of the rocks that I got hit with was about the size of a silver dollar. He hit me in the back. So I automatically thought that day where some of my friends that had beaten me to the river that day and were trying to push me out, you know,

you know, how sometimes kids are cruel. And so not wanting to get hit by another rock, I just turned to my right and went up the river bank onto the Lemme Road, which was a two track road. And I was pretty upset at the time thinking, well, you know, I thought I had better friends than that. And so I started walking in the direction of that mobile home.

And then I turned around and said, you know what, I'm not going to let these guys do this to me. So I turned around and started heading right where I got out of the river. And as I did that, something came up from the river bank that terrified me. It had a large head and big black marble eyes. I don't remember seeing the ears, but

the head was kind of square, it wasn't conical. And it had some hair on it, okay? Kind of like a head of cabbage that was flattened down, you know? That's the only way I could explain it. And what terrified me the most was the skin color. Because at that time, I had watched the movie The Exorcist and actress, the name in that movie, her name was Raven. And when she was possessed, she had this color, the skin that resembled

what I was looking at. And every line on this creature's face, whether it be the two laugh lines on either side of its mouth, and all the lines that were on its forehand were a bright red. It's nose was pug, kind of like a pig snout, but not as big, not like the size of a pig snout.

eggs snout, but it was pugged, okay? And its mouth went, it went almost from, it just went from one side of the face to the other, like it was like a trap jaw. Really big teeth, and there were some canine type teeth that were sharp, both on the upper and lower bridge.

And the chest was really big. And I only saw this thing from the upper torso and the weight of the shoulders were really wide, way wider than mine. I couldn't determine if this thing was that old or that young. All I knew is that I thought it was some kind of demon. And I was so

uh taken back by this thing that i started backpedaling backwards and i fell and because i was still wet from getting out of the river i i fell into the t-track road which was mostly silk there was some sand but mostly sills and i had this all over my my wet body when i got up and turned to run my legs felt like there were about 200 pounds each they they wouldn't move and so taking uh

My right and left hand, my right leg, I'm picking my leg up to get it to move, you know, move forward. And finally I got movement in my leg and I started running to that mobile home that wasn't very far away. And I was banging on this trailer as hard as I could and my mouth was so dry

I could barely get any words out. And I was yelling, please help me. Let me in. Please help me. And you know what? I wasn't going to get any help because that lady wasn't going to open her door for me. Now, that kid that said, you can't go down there. There's monsters down there. Well, he, he wasn't lying. They, they must have known something that I didn't obviously. So I knew that I wasn't going to get any help from them. So I started

down the dirt road that I came up on from my street from the asphalt. And when I almost got to the asphalt, I noticed that the irrigation ditches were full and they're like three foot irrigation ditches. So the only thing that was in between me and the irrigation ditch was a barbed wire fence. So I went in between the barbed wires

and got into the irrigation ditch because by now the silt had started drying on me like stucco. So I was just trying to get this silt, this dried silt off me as fast as I could. And then I don't know what got my attention, but I looked towards the levee of the river again and I saw this huge silhouette. I didn't see my detail, but all I can see was this big huge head.

these huge, these shoulder that were like about four feet wide, big arms, big muscles, a big barrel chest, and from the upper torso with chestes, went down to the waist like a taper. And then these two huge legs that look like they were tree trunks. And in my mind,

This is what I heard. I heard, you better get out of here right now before you can't. Okay. And it wasn't my voice that was saying this. This was something that wasn't my voice that I was hearing. And so not being able to get all this dried silt off me, I got up and went in between the bar bars again and back onto the dirt road, which

about 15 yards from the asphalt and I put my arms out and my hands up and it said, okay, I said, okay, okay, I'm leaving and terrified, right, terrified. There was nothing I could say to rebuke this thing. I heard what I heard

And I believe I believed it to be true. So I left there. I got onto the asphalt road and started heading home. Now, remember, I have a mile to walk still. And I got about an eighth of a mile.

in the direction of my house. And then I heard something approaching on the other side of the road, on the other side of the fence. And I couldn't see it though, but I could hear it approaching. And I could see its footballs because the weeds that were growing, they were moving with the steps of this thing that I can't see. And I jumped out of my skin again. I literally jumped up in the air.

dared and about the same time a farmer came riding by in his old farm truck and I swear if that farmer had taken a look at me, he could tell something was wrong. So I kept walking and this time I lost my flip-flops, right? So it's summertime and

A hot asphalt road is nothing fun, okay? So I had to walk on the very edge of the street where the weeds were growing, keep my feet from burning. Finally, I made it home, okay? And I must have looked like hell, okay? I was in shock and all I wanted to do was get onto my property

to the back of the house where there was a spigot and a hose and start rinsing off. And not only was I rinsing off this dried silk that was on my body, but I was also washing off this stench that I had. And how I described the smell was like the rotting meat, kind of like a skunk, but it wasn't a skunk, but it was pungent like a skunk and the bottom of a garbage can in some return.

And so I rinsed off and then now I'm left with my swim trunks, which stunk, I'm sure they stunk too, because I went into the barn and I stripped down and I had shoved my clothes in between a couple of bells that hey, that we had left over from the season before. And then I, cause I didn't want my dad to know that I was at the river. So I hit, I hid my swim trunks and then I went and rinsed off one more time.

uh with the spigot and then I went to the house and then I took and I washed up in the shower and I like rinsed uh loudered rinse and repeat like twice okay because I didn't want any signs of anything that I had to explain to my my dad when he got home from work uh I went into my bedroom and I just waited okay and uh still in shock I'm sure when he came home he came into my bedroom

and to ask me how my day was and I broke down. And so he sat at the edge of my bed with me and then I proceeded to explain to him that I was at the river and then I knew I wasn't supposed to be down there. And the reason why I wasn't supposed to be down there is because he had given us instructions

before because I had gotten cut down there on some barbed wire and I had to get stitched up. So if that was the reason why he told us never to go back down to the river, maybe he did know about something that was going on, not only on our property, but I just have a feeling my dad knew about these things, especially

um, since, uh, we told him about the wild man. And if he believed, if he believed that to be true, maybe that's one of the reasons why he didn't want us going back down to the river again. So I'm sure he could still tell that I was in shock. And you know what, he didn't scold me. I didn't get into any kind of trouble. He just told me to, uh, um, rest, you know, rest up. Okay. He can tell that I would, I've been through it. Okay. I've been through it.

And you know, I've never heard anything else about that. But very next day around, it was a couple hours before lunchtime, so I'd say around 10 o'clock in the morning, I'm in the garage and our garage door faces our street. I saw two, two, what looked like government vehicles go down our street. One of them to describe the vehicles, and I don't know if they were Bureau of Land Management, but they were newer trucks,

And they were step side and they looked like forestry trucks, but they were painted like forestry trucks. And I say they look like forestry trucks because they were four-wheel drive and they had the skinny tires, you know, and they had these camper shells that had a door in the back where the tailgate would be.

And they were painted this blueish gray color. And there was two of them. One parked over there next to my property, and the other one kept going straight down the road, down towards the river. And I just thought that that looks real peculiar. Those must be government trucks. And you know, my dad's employment, at one time, my dad held credentials with local law enforcement.

He went to the FBI Academy. He was in the OSI, and he spent some time with the CIA. So when he was in the OSI, for those listeners who don't know what OSI is, it's Office of Special Investigations. Now, I don't know if a Bigfoot signing constitutes a Office of Special Investigations team to come out, but I

For some reason, I believe that my dad might have contacted some of his colleagues and they went to go investigate what had happened to me the day before. Yeah, he just might have been connected. From what I understand, he did something after that day that made it so you hopefully wouldn't have any more experiences like that. Please expand on that for us. The following early summer,

It might have been the early fall of that same year we had a built-in swimming pool put in. So there would be no reason at all that I would have to go back to the river to cool off. We had our own pool now.

Yeah, you knew what he was doing. Yeah, that worked with me too. I'd spend the whole summer there right by the pool, so. I did. Yeah, I can't say I'll blame you there. That was a good move. And what in the world's going on with that dead-looking Sasquatch? I mean, I can understand a lot of adaptations they might have, but having greenish-looking skin, bluish-greenish-looking skin, like you'd see on the corpse,

That's really hard to understand and wrap your mind around. I just... I can't see the advantage to having skin that looks like. I just... like that. I just wonder why it looked that way. That's so weird. I don't think I've ever heard of an encounter with that color skin. Usually, I've heard that they're like black. They look black or mostly black.

Yeah, normally that's how it is, but now with that one that you saw, maybe something was wrong with it. It's just hard to know. All we can do is guess on that. Well, let's get to some of the questions from the live chat here. The first one is a general question from Kristian. She wants to know if...

Dogmen have rabies. Well, that's something we can only guess at. Mammals can get rabies, but are dogmen just run to the mill mammals? I mean, there are a lot of things that point soundly towards them not being just typical flesh and blood creatures that are out there trying to scratch out a living.

There is a lot of evidence of points towards impossibly having demonic ties. We don't know that for sure, but if that's a case, I don't think that rabies is even a consideration for them. This next question is from Gabriel Hawkins, and Gabe wants to know, Vic, whatever happened to the guest who was in a coma. You know what? That really is a sad situation there. That's the eyewitness I was telling you guys about, maybe four or five months ago, I think it was, where

What that guy went through as a kid he had a dog me and come up and do something horrible to him I don't want to go into the details in case he does pull out of his condition his illness I'm not sure if he's Even alive now the last time I checked in on him his mother Responded to my text and let me know that he was still in the coma

A medically induced coma, I believe it was. I thought about reaching out again, but I was kind of afraid to because what if she lost him, lost her son, and then here's this stranger asking questions. I was hoping he would have recovered from it, but I really don't know for that reason. I can't tell you. The next question is from Michigan Mediator.

And his question is, how close do you live to this area now? And have you had any other strange experiences or noises as an adult? Since then, I moved to Southern California. My parents sold a ranch. And I haven't heard any strange noises like that. And I live in the city limits of San Diego.

Well, thank goodness you haven't had any other experiences. Hope it stays that way. Carlito's Way 93 CC wants to know what color eyes did it have? They had big black marble looking eyes. Were they kind of like a sharks or did you see some whites around them? Yes, like a shark. That's a good way to explain it.

Okay, I see. The next one on deck is from Ann Conzel, and Ann wants to know, Todd, are you an identical twin or fraternal? I'm a fraternal. We're called mirror twins. I'm right-handed, and my twin is left-handed. It's like looking into a mirror. Well, I never heard of that before. Well, that's interesting. And speaking of your twin,

I need to see if I can get ahold of him. That'd be a great way to get some dirt on you, to get some good stories, wouldn't it? No, I wouldn't do that to you for all you know. Let's see, the next question is from Andres Karazales. And Andres wants to know, did anything seem off before or after the encounter?

Before the dog man encountered, while I was pedaling to my friend's house, I was hearing sounds along the river bank because where the encounter took place, the river was about, it was about maybe a half a mile from the street that I was on, and I was hearing some really strange sounds, but I was just

I had a one-track mind to get to my friend's house where there was no adult supervision, you know, and I wasn't going to let the really strange noises sidetrack me.

Wow, you were a tough kid. That's for sure. Yeah, that would have derailed a lot of kids. No doubt about that. This next question is from Dee Truth and Dee wants to know, Hello Vic and Todd, any idea on the height and weight of the dog man? Also, did you smell anything? I didn't smell anything, but I would think it was about

The height probably could have been like close to seven feet. And the weight I would guess at, I don't know, close to 200 pounds. Wow, Phil was seven feet tall and only 200 pounds. It must have been a stick figure almost.

No, it wasn't that, it wasn't that thin, you know, it had a bunch of fur or hair. It reminded me of a huge German shepherd, but more wolf-like, more, where wolf-like. Yeah, sounds like it. Sounds like a good description.

Bang Bang wants to know if it had five fingers like a human hand, and you addressed that. You said that it had dew claws. So if it had dew claws, did it have any kind of a protruding thumb on the side of its wrist or hand, or was it just a claw? They look like huge paws. And I was explaining the dew claw as if we had our hands out and put in thongs. That's what I was

I see. Okay. Sounds like it has some pretty funky looking paws or hands. The next one up is from Project Sky Falls. And they want to know what color was the dog man? Since it was night, all I could see was a dark color coat.

Well, like I said, yet so much in your mind, you're doing good to know what your name was. You handled it a lot better than most people would have, but it's natural that you'd still be affected by it. Who wouldn't be? So, it's understandable there. The next question is from Fred Caserta, and Fred wants to know what color were the eyes, you told us they were black, but he also wants to know what did the pupils of the dogman look like? I don't remember seeing any pupils.

Some eyewitnesses report noticing them. A lot of eyewitnesses don't. So that doesn't make any different from a lot of other eyewitnesses. This next question is from Nadine Smith. And Nadine, hey Nadine, she wants to know what color were the eyes of the dog me? And he said that those were black. But the second part of her question, you didn't answer. She wants to know, did they seem intelligent like they were assessing you? Yes, I did believe that because

When I was approaching it, it was really upset. It seemed like it was really upset, really pissed off. And so it started running towards me. And there was some kind of some kind of intelligence there that it was out to get me.

Well, I can only imagine all the things are going through your mind at the time. Like I said, I'm going to be the dead horse here. You deserve so much credit for holding this together, holding everything together so well, because most people have just fallen to pieces. Audacious Amber wants to know, did the dogman or did the dogman visit you in dreams? Or do you feel like you had any type of mental or telepathic connection with it? Thank you.

I've never had any dreams of this terrifying experience. And I don't know if there was a connection. I mean, the only connection that I could think of is that I was at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Yeah, that's how most of these encounters are. Some people think that they did something that called the encounters down upon them, and that's why they had them, but in most cases, that's what it boils down to, just being in the wrong place at the wrong time. And it's no more complicated than that. The next one is from Anne Consol, and Anne wants to know, Todd, did the dog me in mind speak with you? No, it didn't, but I had

the impression that it wanted to rip me to shreds and kill me. I thought I was a dead little teenager. Oh, I bet you did. But then again, that's an ammo for most dogmen. They want you to think that that's what they're out to do to rip you apart. But surprise, surprise, most eyewitnesses get away. The overwhelming majority of eyewitnesses walk away without a scratch because in most cases, these guys are just looking to torment you and not actually rip you to pieces.

There's a reason behind everything they do, and they're so smart they realize that if they do kill a person, then the whole area is going to be flooded with authority ease and it's going to be a big mess. So it's no surprise they don't kill eyewitnesses except for once in a true blue moon. The next question for you is from

Red-edged savage. He wants to know, did you ever get the feeling that it knew what you were thinking or projected thoughts to you? No, I don't think that because if it did, it probably wouldn't approach any further than it did because, you know, my quick witness

It really makes me wonder if it was just the words when you rebuked it that had the desired effect or if you're holding those index fingers up like you said you did. If that even played.

Well, you might be right. You just might be right. You were there and none of us were. So you'd have the best idea on what did work and what didn't. Let's go for the next question. This one is from Andrus Kurizalis and he wants to know were the two other beings affected by the prayer or was it just the dog man? No, because they started running in the direction that I was going before the dog man approach.

So the two other objects, the agencies or whatever they were, immediately started heading in the direction that I was going before the dog man started the approach to me.

I see. While it goes with that thing, that encounter could have ended a heck of a lot worse than it did. I think you had about the best ending you could have possibly hoped for. Thank goodness for that. Anne Conzel wants to know, did either the dog me and her Bigfoot have a bad odor? After the Bigfoot encounter, they wanted to river where I thought it could have been some kind of demon.

Before today, I realized I believe it was a bigfoot. It did have an odor. It was a really strong pungent odor. Pungent like a skunk, but it wasn't skunky smelling. It was like I said, like rotten meat and bottom of a garbage can in the summertime. If anybody knows what that smells like,

You told us about how after you got back, you hit those clothes because of them smelling so bad they probably stink to this day. When they want to put that stink out, they're masterful at it. But yeah, they smoked for a while. I'm sure they did. I don't doubt that at all.

This next question is from Summerrain07 and the Summer wants to know, Todd, is this the first time you're sharing your dogman slash Bigfoot encounter? And did any of your friends or family ever sharing encounters with you if they've had any? We believe you. Thank you. Oh, thank you. Um, now this isn't the first time I, uh, had recanted my or told my experience with the dogman. I was, uh,

featured on VIX. I witnessed Big Foot I've witnessed radio last week and I mentioned that encounter. And that shows doing really well by the way so that you know. But then again, like I told you, you did such a masterful job sharing your experiences. It's really no wonder. It's not. The next question is from Anne Consol and Anne wants to know, Todd, do you think the government knows about dog men?

Yes, I do. I firmly believe that. I think the government, I'm sure the government knows about a lot of things that we're talking about today.

Oh sure, I wouldn't be surprised if they have one of these things in a cage. Now, as far as dogmen go, I'm not sure that all of them do have demonic qualities if any of them actually do. Of course, we don't know that definitively, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if they have some dogmen in the cage and are able to really study them so they know pretty much everything about them. With all their resources and abilities, wouldn't surprise me in the least.

Let's get another question up here. This one's from Summer Rainows 7, and she wants to know, did you see any strange lights before your encounters happened? No, I did not. Some eyewitnesses do, some eyewitnesses don't. Most don't, but some do, for whatever reason. Bang Bang wants to know, Todd, please elaborate on the reason the smell got on you.

I just believe that I was that close, so close to it, that the smell that permeated around me, you know, I was that close. Yeah, with the way they can stink, you don't have to be all that close with that smell to get on you. So there's no wonder it did get on him. Gabriel Hawkins wants to know, Vic, when will you do another Q&A with us listeners?

I'm not really sure. I'm not really sure what I'm gonna do another Q&A, but maybe I'll do one for too long. I tried to just bring on UI witnesses and maybe to mix things up, do a Q&A or some other type of show once in a blue moon, but don't really have one in the plans as of right now. So I'm not really sure.

This next question for you is from Ben YouTubing. And they want to know, question for Vic, how did you become such an expert on the dog man and other cryptids? Well, number one, there are no experts on dog man or any other cryptids. What I know about dog man is from a ridiculous amount of exposure to eyewitnesses. I mean, I've spoken with thousands upon thousands of them.

If you speak with thousands upon thousands of people who have had direct interactions with grizzly bears, for example, well, if you keep your ears open, you're going to learn a tremendous amount about them. So it's basically the same thing, but instead of talking about grizzlies here, talking about dog men. Hope that answers that question. And he wants to know, do you have your own episode? If you go to a channel on YouTube called sawdustbeast,

I was interviewed on there and I talked about my Sasquatch encounters, or possible Sasquatch encounters there, including one that happened right around 45 years ago where I think I had a thousand pounder just literally feet behind me when I was deer hunting. So, yeah, I recommend you go check that out. This next question for you is from T-Bone and

Yeah, I guess this is another question directed towards me. Let's try to keep all the questions focused on the guest here on Todd and not on me. I'll answer this one though. It says, Vic, I recall you mentioning you've seen footage of Dogman, yes I have. Rather, clothes up on trail cams. Yeah, definitely have.

That as well. But have you seen any pictures or videos circulating online that you believe to be authentic? Yes, I most definitely have seen pictures circulating around the internet that are definitely authentic. Pictures that have been shared with me that were really impressive photos. And then maybe a year or two later, I'd see it pop up online. And then before you believe it, they were taken down. Sometimes a person who posted it was just gone.

I don't know if they caught any blowback for posting that picture, but like I've said countless times, if you make the mistake of going public within the evidence about these things, that's too good. There's definite blowback. The government does not want that.

I plan on doing what I do for a long time, helping the eyewitnesses if I didn't know better and if I made the mistake of putting evidence out there for public consumption that was above a certain level of quality then, I wouldn't be allowed to help the eyewitnesses. I disappear as well, and I'm not going to make that mistake or let that happen.

Let's move on to the next question. This question is from red edged savage and he wants to know. Todd could you tell if it had legs like a human in basic shape. It had legs like a dog you know a nine. You know they were bent and it was walking upright.

I'm still so impressed by all the details you noticed about that thing. Yeah, it's almost like you were a trained observer. You did a really good job, like I told you before several times. Well, I call it like I see it, you know. Well, that's a good way to be and a good thing to do. That's all you can do. Mary's got the next one. She wants to know, did your father ever talk with you about what he knew or if he ever shared with you what he did at work?

You know, especially with the OSI and definitely with the CIA and some things that he learned in the when he went to the FBI Academy, he hasn't divulged too much of the FBI Academy. But we, my brother and I got to talk to him on Christmas Day and he says that he told us that he's writing a book and he's, so hopefully he's going to disclose some of the things he was never able to tell us.

Yeah, there's probably so much that he wasn't allowed to tell you if he actually was connected. That's just, that goes with the territory it does. The next question is from Naja14, and Naja wants to know, I'm horrified that people in the mobile home ignored your plea for help. Did you ever encounter them again? And I agree, Naja, that's horrible. Shame on them.

Screaming on deaf ears, you know, and I felt really I felt really upset that you know I'm after I got home and and the question why wouldn't they open the door, you know and help me and And the only answer that come up with is that You know they knew it was down there and they want to get pulled in any kind of controversy

Yeah, but still, they could have caused a little kid to be killed out there because of their inaction. Their refusal to let you in. Shame on them. I don't care what their concerns were. You were in dire need of assistance and they just turned a cold shoulder. So, yeah, like I said, shame on them. Looks like Fred Caserta has the last question of the night. He wants to know, did the dogman or Sasquatch breathe heavily?

When the dog man screamed at me, it screamed at me so loud and so hard that the hair on my head was being blown back and I was getting spit on my face from this creature's mouth. What was the question about Bigfoot? Well, he was wondering if they were breathing heavily, the dog man or Sasquatch, if they were breathing heavily like they were out of breath, like they had been running? No. No. Yeah, that's another one of those things where

Some dog men do that when they encounter out witnesses and others don't. Others you don't hear them breathe for the most part. So, yeah, there's no rhyme, no reason on that. Well, before we get out of here, Todd, do you have any closing comments you'd like to put out there for us? I just wanted to thank the host, you, Vic, and the people that were tuned in tonight with their great questions.

Yeah, they did do a great job. A lot of really good questions. Well, having said that Todd, I can't thank you enough for coming on and sharing the details of these experiences with us. I really appreciate it. Well, thank you. Oh, you know, you're welcome. Thanks again so much for your time and have a great night.

All right, everybody, before we get out of here, just a couple of things. Don't forget tomorrow night, special live stream episode of the show where Kim's going to come back on and bring all of us up to speed and all these crazy things that have been happening. And the second part is if you've had a dog me an encounter of your own and would like to come on the show and share it with the listeners or maybe you don't have an interest in coming on the show, maybe you just need help dealing with it, coming into terms with it.

And either case, please go to dogmanacounters.com, submit a report, and if you do that, then I'll be more than happy to schedule a phone consultation with you so we can find out what's ailing you, and get you back to good. And by the way, too, if you had a Sasquatch sighting.

and would like to be a guest on my Bigfoot sighting. Please go to my BigfootSighting.com, submit a guest request, and I'll reach out to you to get that set up. So, having said all that, thanks again so much for listening everyone, and have a great night.

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