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    A climate-resilient ancient grain with Pierre Thiam of Yolélé (2022)

    enSeptember 21, 2023
    What are the benefits of Fonio as a grain?
    Who is Pierre Thiam and what does he promote?
    How does Fonio relate to climate change challenges?
    What challenges did Pierre face in his culinary journey?
    How did Pierre's parents react to his career choice?

    Podcast Summary

    • Embracing Fonio as a Sustainable and Nutrient-Dense GrainFonio, a drought-resistant grain, offers a sustainable solution to future food security challenges. Yole's efforts have made Fonio products readily available in the US, promoting the exploration of alternative food sources.

      Fonio, an ancient African grain, has the potential to be a major source of food in a world facing the challenges of climate change. Pierre Chiam, the founder of Yole, a company dedicated to bringing Fonio to the US and beyond, is on a mission to get people to discover this nutrient-dense and drought-resistant grain. Fonio requires very little water to grow and thrives in drought-stricken areas, making it a sustainable choice for a warming planet. With Yole's efforts, Fonio products like flour and snacks made from the grain are now available in thousands of stores across the US. This highlights the importance of exploring and embracing alternative food sources that can help address future food security challenges.

    • Finding passion through unexpected eventsSometimes, life's unexpected challenges can lead us to discover our true passion and change the course of our lives for the better.

      Sometimes unexpected and challenging events can lead us to our true calling in life. Pierre Thiam had initially planned to study physics and chemistry in Ohio, but after being robbed in New York, his plans changed. Desperate for work, he took a job as a busboy in a restaurant and discovered a passion for cooking. This incident completely altered the trajectory of his life, and he went on to pursue a career in food. Looking back, he now realizes that without that unfortunate incident, his life would have been completely different. It serves as a reminder that sometimes our greatest opportunities come from unexpected sources.

    • From Busboy to Head Chef: Pierre Thiam's Journey of Passion and PerseveranceFollow your passions and embrace unexpected opportunities to achieve remarkable success.

      Pierre Thiam's passion for food and cooking was ignited at a young age through his mother's collection of cookbooks. Despite starting as a busboy in a restaurant, Pierre's interest in the kitchen and the beautiful food being prepared drove him to learn more. Through hard work and determination, he transitioned from dishwasher to prep cook and eventually became the head chef at a restaurant in Soho. Along the way, Pierre discovered that cooking was like chemistry, sparking a new perspective and enthusiasm for his craft. This journey teaches us the importance of following our passions and embracing unexpected opportunities, as they can lead to remarkable achievements.

    • Breaking barriers and finding support in pursuing your passionFollowing your passion may initially face obstacles, but ultimately can lead to support and happiness, proving that societal norms do not determine true fulfillment.

      Pursuing your passion may initially be met with cultural barriers or doubts from loved ones, but ultimately can lead to their support and encouragement. Pierre Thiam's journey as a chef was initially challenging due to cultural expectations of gender roles in cooking. Despite this, he followed his passion and embraced the opportunities in the male-dominated restaurant industry. When he finally mustered the courage to share his career choice with his parents, he was pleasantly surprised by their relief and curiosity about his culinary pursuits. This experience taught Pierre that his parents' support was not dependent on societal norms, but rather on his happiness and fulfillment. It also highlights the importance of introducing diverse food experiences, as Pierre's exploration of his own cultural cuisine brought joy to both himself and his colleagues.

    • Pierre Thiam: Championing African Cuisine and Embracing Cultural DiversityPierre Thiam's journey emphasizes the significance of preserving culinary traditions, embracing cultural diversity, and promoting underrepresented cuisines in the culinary world.

      Pierre Thiam's mission was to bring African cuisine to the forefront and showcase its flavors and ingredients. He found inspiration in his childhood memories and the cuisines of his ancestors in Senegal. Starting with his restaurant Yole, Thiam introduced dishes like peanut sauce, okra, and fonio, a delicate and delicious grain. The recognition of these dishes, particularly fonio, through positive reviews and the realization of its value in Senegal affirmed Thiam's commitment to his mission. This led him to write a cookbook and further incorporate African ingredients into his menu. Thiam's journey highlights the importance of preserving culinary traditions, embracing cultural diversity, and promoting underrepresented cuisines.

    • The Promising Benefits of Fonio: A Sustainable and Nutritious GrainFonio, a resilient and nutrient-rich grain native to Africa, offers a viable solution to climate change and resource scarcity, requiring minimal water and offering a versatile and sustainable alternative to other crops.

      Fonio, a grain native to Africa, has numerous advantages that make it a promising option in the face of climate change and resource scarcity. Unlike many other grains, fonio requires very little water to grow and is able to thrive in dry and arid regions. Farmers can simply scatter the seeds after the first rain and enjoy a relatively effortless cultivation process. Moreover, the deep roots of fonio help to aerate the soil and improve its nutrient content, offering a sustainable and regenerative agricultural solution. In addition to its resilience, fonio also boasts nutritional benefits, including being gluten-free and having a low glycemic index, making it suitable for those with dietary restrictions or diabetes. With its versatility in cooking and potential to address pressing environmental challenges, fonio is a grain worth exploring further as a viable alternative to other resource-intensive crops like quinoa.

    • The Impact of Colonization on African Crop ConsumptionTo ensure food security, Africa needs to integrate diverse and resilient crops like fonio into the food system, reducing dependence on a limited number of crops and adapting to environmental challenges.

      Colonization and the mindset that came with it had a significant impact on the consumption of traditional African crops like fonio, millet, and sorghum. The introduction of crops like wheat, rice, and soy from colonizing nations led to a shift in dietary habits and a decline in the production of indigenous crops. This heavy reliance on a limited number of crops, such as wheat, has made Africa vulnerable to global crises and shortages, as seen with the recent wheat shortage caused by the Ukraine crisis. To ensure food security and resilience, it is crucial to integrate diverse and resilient crops like fonio into the food system. By rethinking and diversifying our crop choices, we can better adapt to environmental challenges and reduce dependence on a small number of crops.

    • Transforming Lives through Fonio: Pierre Thiam's Vision for Economic Stability in SenegalPierre Thiam recognized the potential of fonio as a crop to create jobs and bring economic stability to Senegal, aiming to promote it as a nutritious and sustainable grain globally.

      Pierre Thiam recognized the potential of fonio as a crop that could transform the lives of people in Senegal. Witnessing the poverty in Kgu and the exodus of youth seeking better opportunities, he saw an opportunity to create jobs and bring economic stability to the region. Thiam believed that if fonio could become a world-class crop like quinoa, it would attract the attention and demand of not just locals, but also people worldwide. He understood the importance of branding and making fonio appealing and sexy to consumers. By establishing a value chain and partnering with experienced individuals like Philip Reux, Thiam aimed to create a sustainable industry that promotes fonio as a nutritious, gluten-free, and ancient grain.

    • From Passion to Success: Pierre Thiam's Journey with FonioPierre Thiam's dedication and partnership with Philip led to the creation of a successful business, Yole, which showcased the potential of Fonio and overcame challenges to create a sustainable enterprise.

      Pierre Thiam recognized the potential of Fonio as a solution to help bring income and opportunity to his community in Senegal. He shared his passion for Fonio in an article, addressing the tragic stories of young people drowning while trying to migrate to Barcelona. Philip, who had read the article, reached out to Pierre, and together they formed a business called Yole. They started with friends and family funding, and with the help of a company called Woodlands, they were able to showcase the potential of Fonio to executives who had never been to Africa. This partnership led to a successful agreement with Whole Foods to carry their product. Despite the labor-intensive process of processing Fonio, Pierre and Yole found a way to overcome this challenge and create a sustainable business.

    • Overcoming Challenges in Fonio Processing: From Manual to MechanizedMechanized processing of fonio has revolutionized its production, increasing efficiency and opening up new opportunities for its use in various forms, leading to its rise in popularity.

      The processing of fonio, a nutritious African grain, has been a major challenge in its journey to become popular. Initially, fonio was processed manually using a mortar and pestle, which was a time-consuming and inefficient method. However, with the increasing demand for fonio, it became necessary to find a solution for efficient processing. The use of mechanized equipment revolutionized the process, reducing waste and increasing processing capacity. This allowed access to fonio for both the growing market demand and the food industry. The improved processing also opened up new opportunities, such as fonio flour, pilafs, and chips. To create awareness and make fonio as popular as quinoa, the company started by showcasing it in influential places like restaurants, with the support of stores like Whole Foods.

    • The Rise of Fonio: From Pierre Thiam's Salad Demos to Social Media and BeyondFonio's popularity has soared thanks to Pierre Thiam's demonstrations, social media platforms, and media attention, attracting diverse communities seeking healthy and convenient food options.

      Fonio, a grain from Africa, has gained popularity and success due to various factors. Pierre Thiam's fonio salad demonstrations attracted attention and led to increased sales, particularly at Whole Foods stores. The grain's appeal extends to different communities, such as the African diaspora who appreciate its heritage and the gluten-free community who embrace its nutrition benefits. The use of social media platforms like Instagram and TikTok, as well as collaborations with similar mission-driven brands, have helped spread awareness. Media attention through Thiam's restaurants and books has also played a role. The timing aligns with the increasing demand for diverse, healthy, and delicious food options. Additionally, Fonio's quick cooking time of five minutes makes it convenient and accessible.

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