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    #908 - Leah Remini

    Leah Remini combines her skills as actress-producer-author-comedian to explore Scientology and its aftermath in a documentary series on A&E.

    en-usJanuary 30, 2017
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    What belief draws individuals into Scientology according to Leah Remini?
    How did Leah Remini's upbringing influence her experience with Scientology?
    What did Leah Remini realize about her feelings in Scientology?
    How does Tom Cruise's role reflect the dynamics of Scientology?
    What does Remini emphasize for informed decisions about Scientology?

    • Leah Remini's Experience with Scientology: Power Dynamics and Cult-Like Allure.Leah Remini's experience with Scientology highlights the importance of critical thinking and self-awareness when it comes to cult-like organizations and their power dynamics.

      Leah Remini provides insight into her experience with Scientology, highlighting how individuals are drawn into the organization with the belief that they are doing good for themselves and others. She explains that Scientology promotes the idea of individuals being powerful spiritual beings in a little body, which sets the stage for early indoctrination. For Remini, who grew up in a strict household, joining Scientology allowed her to express herself and feel important. However, she later realized that these feelings were part of a cult dynamic, one that she initially rejected as offensive. This conversation sheds light on the power dynamics and allure of cult-like organizations, emphasizing the importance of critical thinking and self-awareness.

    • The Power of Group Belonging and the Dangers of Blind LoyaltyJoining a group can provide a sense of belonging and purpose, but blind loyalty and indoctrination can lead to hidden costs and restrictions. Beware of the potential dangers.

      Joining a group or an organization can often lead to a sense of belonging and purpose. Leah Remini describes her experiences in Scientology, where she was taught to believe that she was part of an elite group working towards a greater goal. The indoctrination process involved daily activities such as studying policies, taking tests, and conforming to a specific language. Leah explains that this sense of tribalism within the organization was intoxicating and made her feel like she was saving the world. However, she later realized that there were hidden costs and restrictions within the organization, and the internet played a major role in uncovering the truth. This conversation highlights the power of belonging to a group and the potential dangers of blind loyalty and indoctrination.

    • Leah Remini's gradual journey out of Scientology and the importance of critical thinking.Critical thinking and seeking information beyond one's beliefs are crucial for personal growth and realizing that basic morals and tools for navigating life can be acquired through regular education and being a good human being.

      Leah Remini initially found confidence and a sense of accomplishment in Scientology, as it provided her with basic morals and tools for navigating life. However, she later realized that these teachings were not unique to Scientology and could have been acquired through regular education or by simply being a good human being. The conversation also highlights the manipulation and control within the organization, with Leah realizing that she didn't have the rank to question and inquire about certain aspects. Ultimately, Leah's journey out of Scientology was a gradual process, spurred by experiences like witnessing the absence of the leader's wife at a high-profile event. This underscores the importance of critical thinking and seeking information beyond the confines of one's beliefs.

    • Inside the strict and controlled world of Scientology: a revealing look at its policies and practicesLeah Remini exposes the culture of surveillance within Scientology, where members are required to document and report any perceived infractions. Additionally, preferential treatment towards celebrity members contradicts the principle of equal treatment for all.

      Scientology is a highly regulated and strict religious organization that enforces adherence to its policies and practices. Leah Remini reveals that there is a policy of writing internal reports on fellow members, where any perceived infractions or inappropriate behavior must be documented and reported. The organization operates on a word-for-word basis, with no room for interpretation or personal opinion. Remini finds fault with the preferential treatment given to celebrity members, such as Tom Cruise, which goes against the principle that all parishioners should be treated equally. She considers herself a better example of following Scientology's principles and even wrote reports on Cruise, unknowingly becoming a target in the process. This highlights the strict and controlled nature of Scientology and the pressure to conform to its rules and regulations.

    • The Culture of Surveillance and Reporting in ScientologyIn the Scientology organization, there is a pervasive culture of monitoring and reporting on members' behavior, creating an environment of constant surveillance and mistrust. This can lead to consequences for even minor incidents and results in individuals reporting on each other.

      Within the Scientology organization, there is an intense focus on monitoring and reporting the behavior of its members. Leah Remini explains how she would be questioned and required to provide detailed information about her social interactions, including who she was with and what was said. This creates an environment of constant surveillance and mistrust, where even minor incidents can lead to individuals being reported on and potentially facing consequences. Remini shares her experience of writing reports on other members, including celebrities like Tom Cruise, when she felt their actions went against the principles of the organization. However, she also acknowledges that her dedication to Scientology and her belief in its teachings influenced her decision to report on others.

    • Leah Remini's Harrowing Experience with the Church of ScientologyLeah Remini endured intense questioning and pressure from the Church of Scientology in an attempt to force her back into the fold, forcing her to distance herself and undergo months of daily interrogations.

      Leah Remini underwent a harrowing experience during her interrogation by the Church of Scientology. She was subjected to intense questioning and pressured to retract her statements. The Church wanted her to come back and be a dedicated Scientologist again, but Leah had already distanced herself. Despite her family being present, she couldn't share her ordeal with them due to fear of creating a bad situation for the Church. Leah underwent three months of daily interrogations where she had to write apology letters and admit to imaginary crimes. This experience is likened to the movie "Defending Your Life" where one's life is reviewed and judged by good and bad moments.

    • The e-meter and its limitations in Scientology practice.The e-meter's ability to detect thoughts is questionable, and its use can manipulate individuals into believing certain emotions or doubts. Scientology also prioritizes pleasing influential members like Tom Cruise.

      The e-meter used in Scientology does have a function, although its accuracy and reliability are questionable. It can register that a person has had a thought, but it cannot differentiate between the specific thoughts. Scientology practitioners are trained to use the e-meter to guide conversations and focus only on what registers on the meter, disregarding other topics. This process can be influenced by suggestions and can manipulate individuals into believing certain emotions or doubts that may not have actually been present. The conversation also sheds light on the importance of keeping Tom Cruise, a prominent figure in Scientology, happy, demonstrating the organization's focus on catering to influential members.

    • The Church of Scientology: Control and Loyalty Over Personal FreedomLeah Remini reveals the fear-based environment and strict rules within the Church of Scientology, shedding light on the dangers of prioritizing control over personal autonomy.

      Being part of the Church of Scientology involves a level of control and loyalty that can be detrimental to personal freedom and autonomy. Leah Remini shares insights into the strict rules and power dynamics within the church, highlighting the fear-based environment where individuals are discouraged from expressing opinions or questioning authority. She emphasizes the belief that as a Scientology follower, one is working towards saving the planet, justifying the extreme measures taken to maintain loyalty. Joe Rogan listens and learns, understanding the deep impact of these policies on individuals' lives. This conversation brings to light the potential dangers of being involved in an organization that prioritizes control over personal autonomy.

    • Leah Remini on the Church of Scientology: Research, Verify, and Make Your Own DecisionsIt is important to educate yourself, verify information, and form your own opinions rather than solely relying on the teachings and beliefs of a particular organization or group.

      Leah Remini wants people to make their own informed decisions about the Church of Scientology. She emphasizes the importance of researching and looking up policies to verify their accuracy. Remini discusses policies such as ethics protection and the responsibility of leaders, highlighting the secretive practices and the need to conceal any wrongdoing from the leaders. She believes that the Church discourages members from reading critical material about Scientology, insulating them from outside perspectives. Remini mentions her personal experience with Scientology and how she would expect a friend like Joe Rogan to respect her beliefs and not try to convince her otherwise. She suggests that this mindset is common among church members and that they are trained to respond this way when faced with criticism.

    • Tom Cruise and Scientology: Tailor-Made for Each OtherLeah Remini exposes the abusive side of Scientology and urges others to join her in speaking out against its harmful policies.

      Tom Cruise benefits from being involved in Scientology because it is a world tailor-made for him. Behind closed doors, he expects everyone to act and be a certain way, strictly following the policies of the church. Any deviation will result in swift punishment, showing an abusive side of the church. Leah Remini, having left Scientology, highlights the millions of dollars she and others have given them, only to be discredited by hate websites. Despite their attempts to discredit her, what she is saying remains true. However, she emphasizes that it's not just her responsibility to speak out; other actors, officials, and the media need to step up and take a stand against the abusive policies of Scientology.

    • Harmful consequences and questionable practices within ScientologyScientology's policies promoting disconnection from family members and strict refund policy have devastating impacts on families and leave individuals with significant amounts of unretrievable money.

      Leah Remini highlights the existence of policies within Scientology that promote disconnection from family members. She emphasizes that these policies are readily available for anyone to see, but the church chooses not to acknowledge them publicly. Joe Rogan speculates that the church may be protecting themselves legally by denying the existence of such policies. However, Leah emphasizes the devastating impact disconnection has on families, with children being forced to disconnect from their own parents. Additionally, Leah reveals that the church's strict refund policy leaves many individuals with significant amounts of money sitting on account that they are unable to retrieve. This conversation sheds light on the harmful consequences and questionable practices within Scientology.

    • Uncovering Abuse and Control in ScientologyLeah Remini's experiences with Scientology shed light on the physical abuse, suppression, and control within the church. It emphasizes the need to question authoritative organizations and stand up against abuse and control.

      Leah Remini discovered numerous instances of physical abuse, suppression, and control within the Church of Scientology after questioning the church's practices and asking for her money back. These abuses included beatings of senior executives for minor offenses such as sighing or yawning. Leah Remini's research and experiences with the church led her to uncover stories of families being declared suppressive and being forced to separate. The church's response to her questions involved deflecting blame and demanding blind faith in the church's policies rather than addressing the wrongdoing. Leah Remini's personal commitment to justice and helping others shines through as she expresses her willingness to support and advocate for others in difficult situations. She also criticizes celebrities who defend the church without acknowledging the abuses that exist within it. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of questioning authoritative organizations and standing up against abuse and control.

    • Leah Remini: In Pursuit of Justice and TruthLeah Remini's relentless pursuit for justice and truth leads her to question the well-being of David Miscavige's wife and the secrecy surrounding the church, prompting her to take legal action and uncover potential connections to human trafficking.

      Leah Remini has always been involved in other people's business, often spying on them or eavesdropping on conversations. However, she admits that if she sees people being bullied or unjustly hurt, she will intervene and speak up. In regards to the David Miscavige wife situation, Leah filed a missing person's report and found evidence linking a police officer involved in the case to a Scientology event on human trafficking. She questions whether Miscavige's wife is being held prisoner or controlled by her own mind. Despite efforts to get answers from the police, Leah has been met with secrecy and lack of information, prompting her to hire a lawyer. It is clear that the search for answers is ongoing and the church's funding continues to rely on donations, including from high-profile individuals like Nancy Cartwright and Greta Van Susteren.

    • The exclusive world of advanced Scientology levels: Financial commitment, strict rules, and sacred documents.Advancing to the highest levels of Scientology requires financial investment and adherence to rules, with a focus on secrecy and anticipation for receiving sacred documents.

      Reaching the highest level of Scientology requires significant financial investment and strict adherence to their rules and regulations. Only a select few, who are wealthy enough and deemed eligible by the church, are invited to advance to these advanced levels. The process involves intense scrutiny and questioning of one's personal life and beliefs, with every transgression and connection to anything negative about Scientology being thoroughly examined. The moment of receiving the sacred documents is highly anticipated and considered a pivotal moment for dedicated members, where they hope to finally have their life's questions answered. The secrecy and security measures, such as carrying a locked briefcase attached to their body and being closely monitored, highlight the extreme measures taken to protect these sacred materials.

    • Understanding Scientology's Beliefs and PracticesScientology teaches that individuals have ancient spirits within them, which affect their thoughts, body parts, and emotions. However, skepticism and controversy surround these beliefs, and those who question may face discouragement or deception.

      Scientology promotes a belief that individuals have other beings or spirits from ancient times residing within their bodies. These beings are seen as responsible for various aspects of the individual, such as their thoughts, body parts, and emotions. Practitioners of Scientology are expected to undergo certain rituals and practices, including holding an e-meter and communicating with these beings. However, it is important to note that there is skepticism and controversy surrounding these beliefs. People who question or investigate the concept of OT 3, which refers to the idea of these beings, may be discouraged from exploring further or may even be lied to for the supposed protection of their health.

    • Leah Remini's Journey: From Blind Believer to Critical ThinkerCritical thinking is essential in questioning beliefs and reevaluating one's belief system, as blindly accepting doctrines without evidence can lead to manipulation and control.

      Leah Remini experienced the manipulation and control tactics of Scientology, where she was made to believe that she had a leadership role and was performing a vital task as an auditor. However, as she delved deeper, she began to question her beliefs and realized the falsehoods and fear tactics used by the organization to suppress dissent and maintain control. Leaving Scientology led Remini to question her entire belief system and search for her true self and purpose. This conversation highlights the importance of critical thinking, questioning beliefs, and being open to reevaluating one's belief system. It reminds us of the dangers of blindly accepting doctrines without evidence or critical examination.

    • Embracing Joy and Personal FreedomFinding joy, breaking free from constraints, and defining one's own path are crucial for a fulfilling life of self-discovery, personal growth, and living life on one's own terms.

      Finding joy and personal freedom is essential for a fulfilling life. Joe Rogan emphasizes the importance of finding things to enjoy and appreciate in life, while Leah Remini shares her journey of discovering her own personal sovereignty and breaking free from the constraints of her past experiences in a controlling religion. Both speakers discuss the significance of exploring one's own beliefs and finding faith in a higher power or purpose, without being tied to a specific doctrine or ideology. They highlight the value of making mistakes, learning from them, and defining one's own path. Ultimately, this conversation emphasizes the importance of self-discovery, personal growth, and living life on one's own terms.

    • Embracing Differences and Personal Growth through Freedom of BeliefRespecting and embracing diversity of opinions and beliefs allows individuals to grow personally and lead more fulfilling lives, while rigid ideologies can limit personal growth and development.

      Individuals should have the freedom to form their own opinions and beliefs without being attacked or judged. Different people have different preferences, whether it's about their choice of music, art, or even spiritual beliefs. It is important to respect and acknowledge these differences, as they make life interesting and diverse. Rigid structures and ideologies can limit individuals from developing their own perspectives and lead to a lack of personal growth. The conversation highlights the danger of organizations that manipulate and control individuals' minds, contrasting it with the comfort and personal choice experienced in more open and flexible spiritual practices. Ultimately, allowing individuals the freedom to explore and question different beliefs helps them lead a more authentic and fulfilling life.

    • The paradox of religion: comfort and controlReligion can provide comfort and a sense of belonging, but it is essential to have a real religious base where personal choice is valued and organizations that dictate actions should be scrutinized.

      Religious structure can provide comfort and a sense of belonging, but it can also lead to indoctrination and control. Leah Remini highlights the importance of having a real religious base, where individuals have the freedom to make their own decisions based on the information they are given. Cults, as described by Joe Rogan, are created by individuals who know it's all just a sham, while religions are established beliefs that have stood the test of time. However, Remini cautions against organizations that dictate who you can talk to or what you should do, emphasizing the importance of personal choice. This conversation sheds light on the suppressive and rigid behavior patterns of Scientology, pointing out the need for scrutiny when individuals are being harmed.

    • Leah Remini's fight for accountability and freedom from the Church of Scientology.Speaking out against harmful practices and holding institutions accountable is crucial for promoting change and protecting individuals' rights.

      Leah Remini believes the Church of Scientology should be held accountable for their policies and practices. She expresses frustration with the church denying the truth of the allegations and instead labeling her and others as enemies. She argues that if the church truly believes in their teachings, they should stand behind them and allow individuals who don't agree to leave. Leah Remini also discusses the social repercussions she has faced since leaving the church, with celebrities and former friends avoiding her and running from any confrontation. This conversation highlights the importance of speaking out against harmful practices and holding institutions accountable for their actions.

    • Leah Remini on Scientology: A Complex Landscape of Belief and CriticismDespite their sincere intentions, Scientology's harmful effects and false stories demonstrate the need to question and challenge the Church's intentions, highlighting the complexity of individuals simultaneously being both believers and critics.

      Leah Remini, a former member of Scientology, expresses her belief that despite the harmful effects of the Church, many individuals within it genuinely believe they are helping others. She acknowledges that her passion for helping people initially led her to the Church. However, she also emphasizes the importance of calling out the Church for their misguided intentions and false stories, such as the Z news story about being dropped into a volcano. Leah explains the process of OTA (Operating Thetan) levels, where members are made to question their own identities and past lives. Despite her mother's initial acceptance of Scientolgy, she eventually left after realizing it was "bullshit." This conversation highlights the complex nature of the Church and how individuals can be both believers and critics simultaneously.

    • The Power of Belief and the Influence of Questionable IdeologiesApproach belief systems with skepticism and critical thinking, questioning authority and seeking truth are essential in navigating the allure of questionable ideologies.

      Beliefs and ideologies can be complex and compelling, even when they are based on questionable foundations. Leah Remini's experience with Scientology showcases how individuals can be drawn into a belief system that offers promises of self-improvement and control over one's life. The power of belief and the desire for something greater can make people susceptible to accepting ideas without critically evaluating them. This conversation demonstrates how even successful and accomplished individuals like L. Ron Hubbard can create elaborate narratives that captivate the minds of followers. It serves as a reminder to approach belief systems with a healthy dose of skepticism and critical thinking, as well as the importance of questioning authority and seeking truth.

    • Leah Remini exposes abuses and manipulation within the Church of Scientology, facing blowback for speaking out.It is crucial to stand up against abuse and seek the truth, even in the face of adversity and discomfort.

      Leah Remini is speaking out against the Church of Scientology, exposing cases of abuse and manipulation. She emphasizes that she is not trying to take away anyone's personal gains or beliefs, but she wants people to acknowledge the truth. Leah discusses how she has heard stories of people being abused, including children, and she is passionate about exposing these incidents. She also mentions the blowback she and other whistleblowers have faced, such as being followed, harassed, and receiving hate mail. The conversation highlights the importance of standing up against abuses and seeking out the truth, even when it may be uncomfortable or challenging.

    • Leah Remini's journey to freedom from Scientology and her desire for positive change.Leah Remini's story emphasizes the importance of self-discovery, overcoming control, and finding goodness beyond oppressive beliefs.

      Leah Remini recognizes the damaging effects of Scientology on her personal life and the lives of others. She highlights her struggle with her family's isolation and the pain experienced by silenced individuals. Remini emphasizes the importance of finding things that work for oneself and acknowledges the negative aspects of Scientology's control over people's thinking. She explores the possibility of reforming or creating organizations that encourage positive group benefits without controlling individuals. Through therapy, Remini learns the importance of humility and discovering the goodness in others beyond the confines of Scientology. Her ability to self-reflect and critically examine her past beliefs demonstrates her growth and resilience.

    • Leah Remini's fight against cults and abusive organizationsBy speaking out, taking action, and urging public figures to denounce cults, individuals can make a difference in protecting and supporting those trapped in abusive organizations.

      Leah Remini is advocating for people to stand up against cults and abusive organizations. Despite facing backlash and resistance, she believes that individuals can make a difference by speaking out and taking action. She emphasizes the importance of public figures and influential people using their platforms to denounce such practices and encourage others to do the same. Remini urges individuals to contact their congressmen and share their concerns, as well as offer any evidence or knowledge that can help prosecute these abusive groups. She highlights the need for unity and support, both from the public and law enforcement agencies, to protect and assist those who may be trapped within these harmful organizations.

    • Leah Remini: Uncovering the Truth and Exposing Scientology's Harmful PracticesLeah Remini bravely shares the stories of those who have suffered within Scientology, aiming to validate their pain and bring attention to the harmful practices of the organization.

      Leah Remini is determined to expose the truth about Scientology and the pain it has caused to its followers. She reveals that punishment methods were used, such as throwing people overboard as a form of discipline. Remini emphasizes that despite Scientology's efforts to project growth and success through their building acquisitions, the reality is that there are only around 10,000 active members worldwide. She is motivated by the stories and experiences of the people who have suffered within the organization, aiming to validate their pain and bring attention to the harmful practices of Scientology. Remini's ultimate goal is to shed light on their suffering and provide support for those affected.

    • Leah Remini's fight against the Church of Scientology: exposing harmful actions, seeking justice, and shedding light on the truth.Leah Remini's bravery and determination to share real stories of abuse and manipulation within the Church of Scientology emphasizes the importance of hearing and understanding these experiences.

      Leah Remini is determined to expose the harmful actions of the Church of Scientology and bring justice to the victims. She is not backing down despite the bullying and attempts to discredit her. Leah's endgame is to shed light on the stories of those who have been hurt and ensure that the organization takes responsibility for its actions. She emphasizes that these stories are not fabricated for fame or money, but real experiences of abuse and manipulation. Leah's bravery in sharing her personal journey and reformulating her worldview is commendable, and it is important for people to hear and understand these stories.

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    Ep 881 | Scientology, Rape Cover-Ups, & Forced Abortions | Guests: Jeremiah Roberts & Andrew Soncrant of 'Cultish' (Part Two)

    Ep 881 | Scientology, Rape Cover-Ups, & Forced Abortions | Guests: Jeremiah Roberts & Andrew Soncrant of 'Cultish' (Part Two)
    Discusses part two of an interview with 'Cultish' hosts, Jeremiah Roberts and Andrew Soncrant, focusing on Scientology controversies like government conspiracies, Shelly Miscavige's disappearance, intimidation tactics, forced abortions, riches appealing to famous members, and the church's impact on families. Contains no content related to advertisements or external links.
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